EFAP TV: Reacting to Loki Season 2 Episode 3 ∙ 1893

[@SuperKillJoy15]

Ms. Minutes will give Kang the TIME of his life..

[@SuperMeatyCake]

Maulers impression of a back and forth between Anakin and Loki was spot on lol

[@Invalidcookie-bv4cx]

"How old are you?" 😂

[@Splobkingofsplob]

I'm pretty sure that living in the Warhammer 40,000 universe at this point would be infinitely safer than living in the MCU considering entire universes containing quadrillions of people can just be destroyed with time grenades. The Emperor protects.

[@hatemongerofthetoxicbrood6561]

I mean majority of Imperium Worlds are mostly safe as long as you work and are of the Emperor's Faithful.

[@arthurmclaughlin1458]

Kang wanted the Horus Heresy to happen though

[@zigzag1630]

At least Warhammer 40,000 takes existential threats to all humanity seriously. After Thanos everything should have changed. Humanity should've set aside their petty differences to work towards nothing but planetary defense. Every bit of technology and magic secreted away by Tony Stark, Wakanda, Kamar-Taj, Ant-Man and whoever else should've been forcefully seized and widely distributed by any speedy means. But no, comic books must always take place in the modern day, no matter how many world-shattering events happen on a monthly basis nothing is allowed to change, ever, and when too many significant events build up to ignore, just restart everything from scratch! Comic books would rather throw away entire universes than progress the story in any permanent fashion. The MCU has simply caught up to where comics have been for as long as I can remember. Loathe as I am to admit it, eternally static stories like those in comics do have a place in society and they could've maintained that place if they hadn't decided to start changing characters into "better people" while keeping the status quo constant. Either allow change or deny it, doing both will not get one to that eternally-distant oasis called "the wider audience".

[@Splobkingofsplob]

You know, going back to what you said at the start of your reply, it made me remember the Infinity Conez ice cream shop gag from... I think it was Love and Thunder? It's a dumb little scene taken on its own, but it's a pretty obvious symptom when taken in the context of this deeper issue that nothing is really treated with any degree of gravitas any longer. Thanos at one point wiped out half of all life in the universe, untold trillions of lives ended in an instant, countless additional people no doubt died in the aftermath or were traumatized for life by the loss of loved ones... And shortly after all this they open a tongue-in-cheek ice cream joint referencing this horrific genocide like no big deal because hey everyone's fine now. I can't imagine the response would be the same if you went to the former USSR and opened a gulag-themed soup restaurant, but this is happy silly funny comic book land where nothing has consequences or matters anymore, so there's no stakes. No reason to care or get invested. @1630

[@robertlewis6915]

I mean, in MCU countless variants of yourself have been dumped into a cosmic trash compactor.

[@dklwos8088]

I have never actually watched an episode of any of the Star Wars shows, Batwahman or Loki yet I’ll happily sit here and watch EFAP TV coverage every. single. time. Some may say it’s the only thing that brings me joy in life.

[@MonkeySpaceWalk]

Feeling alright, buddy?

[@Kedamonah]

@@MonkeySpaceWalk No worries. It's just a callback to Boogie.

[@patrickbliss9264]

If you want story telling, watch Andor.

[@benjamintherogue2421]

Same.

[@ThePenAndTheRose]

Hearing about how certain things are the only things that bring someone joy in life is the only thing that brings me joy in life

[@KelShu]

I’m not surprised Ms.Minutes is acting out, it’s her time of the month after all.

[@giulizpaviz6381]

Uuuuuuuhhhhhhhhh

[@alexmaverick6647]

Crickets

[@KelShu]

@@alexmaverick6647 I guess it wasn't the right time to make that joke.

[@silverscorpio24]

I love how Rags is compelled to pull a "It's the WRONG TROUSERS!!" gag.

[@The90sDoggo]

Damn Jonathan Mayors is really good at finding new ways to make a cringe performance!

[@Сайтамен]

He isn't just playing a clown, he plays the entire circus.

[@BananaHammocks]

hes shockingly bad in antman and in season 2 of loki

[@The90sDoggo]

@@Сайтамен Lol true! i mean theres a entire stadium of Kangs somewhere out there in the multiverse! XD

[@aaronmueller1560]

It stuns me the lack of agency Loki has at all times in both of these seasons. Loki, of literally all the characters in the MCU, would display the most agency. He doesn’t really care about the goals of other people (especially at this point), and even if his goals aligned he would be the one to mess with them or even sacrifice that for a good laugh. Meanwhile this husk constantly stands in the background of scenes, reaching out and looking like he wants to act but just refusing to lift a finger. Why does this show even exist if they don’t want to use the fun/interesting parts of Loki.

[@IstariAzul777]

The writing is just so bad. I mean Loki is over 1000 years old and should be crazy powerful, wise, etc Instead he’s like a child .. reminds me of the Galadriel situation

[@nont18411]

The show is named “Loki” but it seems like it’s never about him

[@mrshmuga9]

“Why does this show exist if they don’t want to use Loki” Brand recognition, that’s it. It’s enough to get idiots to start watching and continue watching. Although I think even the normies are getting bored, even though they’ll never call it horrible. They’ll just say it’s “okay” but “not know” why they lost interest. Because their subconscious knows, but they don’t dare to think for a second to understand why.

[@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917]

They really want to make Tumblr's idea of what Doctor Who is.

[@SPTX.]

This show was never intended to be about Loki, he's only there to trick people into watching their virtue signaling which the show is really all about.

[@giulizpaviz6381]

There's a lot to unpack about this episode 1. Sylvie is still a terrible character 2. Ms Minute scaring the crowd by turning into a generic ghost is the most silly thing they could have imagined 3. Did someone in the screenwriter room lusted over Ms Minute and that's why there's that scene? 4. They still did a bad job at making Kang look any intimidating 5. Sylvie is still a terrible character

[@silverscorpio24]

6. The titular character is a dumbass

[@nhagan001]

Is there going to be a version of Kang that is not killed by a Woman ever? Is Kang's, and the character playing him, biggest weakness a woman?

[@giulizpaviz6381]

@@nhagan001 it's kinda of ironic considering the actor situation

[@nhagan001]

@@giulizpaviz6381 Yep. His destiny is to be defeated by women. Forever.

[@boatcaptain6288]

And Ms. Minutes is able to physically interact with other objects. Which begs the question: if she can do that and shapeshift, why couldn't she just be content to shapeshift into a human woman to be the GF for Kang she wanted to be? I know that he wasn't interested, but I don't get why she desired a body when she already has something superior to one.

[@Longshanks1690]

If this episode is actually set in the 1890s, the only thing that could make the show better is Dutch and Arthur stealing the TVA tech to try and use the portals as a way to get to Tahiti faster.

[@yikesyourchunkyhostilityha2321]

And the entire episode ends with Dutch saying "THIS WAS THE PLAN! I TOLD YOU I HAD A PLAN AND THIS WAS IT!" All victorious and shit.

[@realistic_delinquent]

GAVIN WHERE ARE YOU?

[@Longshanks1690]

@@yikesyourchunkyhostilityha2321 “DUTCH AH TOLD YOU STEALIN’ FROM PINKERTONS IN SPACE WAS A BAD IDEA!!!” “JUST HAVE FAITH ARTHOR! I HAVE A NEW PLAN, WE JUST NEED THESE INFINITY STONES THEY WAS TALKIN’ BOUT BACK THERE!”

[@thedripkaiser574]

LUMBAGO approved comment

[@crustboi93]

LENNY MY BOAH

[@thunderlighting2006]

Remember when Tony's dad said it in Ironman 2 "Im limited by the technology of my time" and Kang can apparently recreate tech that makes Tony suit look like toy in the 1800s Is this a joke?

[@alidaraie]

Yes, yes it is. Welcome to clown world

[@lordofthepizzapie9319]

@@alidaraie "Clown world"? This is a damn clown multiverse!

[@alidaraie]

@@lordofthepizzapie9319 Loki in the Multiverse of Clownness

[@Pink.andahalf]

Yep, it surely is.

[@CMCAdvanced]

Howard doesn't have the right demographic influence

[@-Azure.EXE-]

What does Sylvie even want. To just kill every Kang. It doesn't seem to matter that much to her since she was chilling out flipping burgers a day ago.

[@thunderlighting2006]

Hey you just hate women if you question her character

[@nhagan001]

I think it says all that needs to be said about the writing, when in season 2 the question of “what do these characters even want” is even a question, and not just an easy statement.

[@nont18411]

Sylvie seems like that one character that Disney completely failed to make the audience like her, no matter how much they tried.

[@TheHardys01]

She doesn't want them taking Kang to the TVA. That is why she is concerned with this Kang in particular.

[@samuellund1377]

@@nont18411 She's Poochie!

[@Nokaret]

Playing Kang seems like an actor's punishment straight out of purgatory: You have to play an entire multiverse of variants of the same character. Extremely demanding, as they could be literally anything - and the only defining trait they all have in common is that they are super cringe.

[@electricbayonet2]

Oh goodness...when Pitch Meeting said that Victor Timely talked like the principal from derrickcomedy’s ‘Jerry’ sketch, he wasn’t kidding at all.

[@Soubifloof]

37:37 "I DO EVERYTHING INFINITELY BETTER THAN YOU" noticing a pattern from she-hulk, guys

[@Dave_L913]

I hope the EFAP crew gave Jedi Brooks something nice like a fruit basket for making him endure this show. I know Metal is technically also a guest, but he survived Boba Fett so he's built up an immunity

[@makhmal1776]

Jedi survived ROP. His strengh is beyond imagination

[@lukew6725]

Also Metal is German so it's completely ethical to abuse him. 😏

[@cymes82]

Metal is just built differently.

[@ThePenAndTheRose]

Metal is almost a guest host in my mind. Especially because they occasionally pop over to his stream to do EFAP esque stuff

[@stevegt2682]

Mootal is still being punished for WW2...

[@Sokko325]

The 'overly attached AI' thing isn't too unusual of an archetype but I can't help feeling that this might be another episode of 'the writers barely disguised fetish'. Maybe I'm just reading too far into it but the clock seems to want a romantic relationship and the emphasis on needing a physical body for that does imply some things.

[@Сайтамен]

Plus it's a family show.

[@giulizpaviz6381]

I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if things at the screenwriter room happened like at the Pitch Meeting video

[@pezdispencer113]

I haven't gotten to that part yet, but I guarantee Persona 3 did it better. Edit: Yeah that was trash, P3 did it way better with an actual logical reason for the attachment.

[@mrshmuga9]

Probably just had no idea what her character is or what to do with her, so they threw a bunch of AI stereotypes at her. Surprised they didn’t use “I’m saving you from yourself” too.

[@weareharbinger914]

It wouldn't be an issue if she bothered communicating it to Kang for the infinite amount of time she had, and the man fucking forged timelines, somehow, outside of time and space! And made an AI! He's a fucking deity i'm sure he could make a robot body.

[@Chaplainsquishy]

I genuinely forget about this show every time until yall cover it

[@sparkypack]

You are not suppose to remember. If you do, you get freaking pruuuuned. You are destined to forget...

[@stock6600]

2:06 Thinking about it, this is such a banger idea for a TV show. Regular life of a regular dude going though his life, and then one day something extraordinary happens and he is like whatever, i ve seen aliens invade New-York like 10 times already, i dont give a fuck anymore

[@darkpuppetlordful]

A four episode mini series where he has "a fateful encounter" in each but ignores it because he knows better. "I gotta tell ya Becky, on my way home from work today the darndest thing happened. An Alien nanotech doohickey fell from the sky and pleaded with me to bond with it. Now of course I didn't, I've seen how little those "avengers" dudes get paid and we gotta think of little Joey's future."

[@MediumRareOpinions]

I want the arc of that character to end on a fantastic life filled with seized opportunities for fame, fortune and love purely because he decided life could end tomorrow in this batshit insane reality so he never second guessed any opportunities for a good thing.

[@Сайтамен]

Stan Lee: What's the matter, haven't you seen a spaceship before?

[@bZman]

The man actively avoids the events that are chasing him down and trying ti make him a superhero, he EMPs the alien nanotech, he kills a symbiote with fire rather than bond with it, the normal man kills every attempt to make him a hero even as the thing pleads with him to join them

[@nhagan001]

You remember how in the Spider-Man movie where we got all three of the Spider-Man, they weren’t that hung up on the fact that a portal opened to another dimension, with another Peter Parker? They asked questions yes, but they weren’t completely paralyzed because they deal with some weird stuff all the time! That SHOULD be many characters in this world! Imagine the cults that would spring up when they hear about all the secret societies controlling the world from the shadows, or the VERY REAL aliens that have invaded multiple times.

[@weareharbinger914]

So kang was a human(apparently) and then somehow got outside of time and space and managed to compress 'raw time energy' into timelines with something he invented in the 1800s? Isn't this all a massive paradox? Time has to exist for him to exist. He also needs the whatever material the Loom is made out of that resists being ripped apart by time(that he ran out of for the suits apparently). Also miss minutes had an INFINITE AMOUNT OF TIME TO COMMUNICATE HER FEELINGS TO KANG BEFORE THIS!

[@NeravarSneed86]

"she weighs a hologram" that's the last straw. fire Rags. lmao.

[@ab-gail]

That one got me.

[@Soyuz2578]

Roll on snare drum and hit the high hat - Rags is on the money again 😂

[@BushCheney04]

I love that fringy is actually trying to answer rags but mauler just knows rags so well to know the direction hes going

[@travonarmstrong6093]

Kang: "You are very... singular." Ms. Minutes: You're pretty singular, yourself." Rags: "But together we are plural." 😂 That's it I'm 💀lmao 😂

[@theColeHardTruth]

The delivery was so completely perfect though 🤣

[@kylefrank638]

Mobius: lives in a reality where every sci-fi concept ever dreamt exists for real, and personally works for a time-traveling peacekeeper association. also Mobius: "Loki I don't understand the concept of an unassuming person actually being dangerous, I mean this guy doesn't look like a universe-conqueror, maybe you're wrong."

[@othertalk3313]

17:33 - Kangz is about to sell Springfield a monorail with this old-timey salesman shite.

[@The.Kenway]

Its incredible how much agency has been sapped, pulled out & surgically removed from loki while the show bears his fucking name.

[@TrisStrudel]

What makes Sylvie so unbelievably hatable is her being so unjustifiably self-righteous combined with the story acting like she has any moral high ground. She goes around spitting venom at anyone no matter how nice they are, blames everyone for things she caused, and then not only is she not called out for it, but the characters don’t act like she’s being terrible.

[@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09]

Sylvie is like the anti Kate Bishop

[@TrisStrudel]

@@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 I will take your word on that because I never watched the Hawkeye show. I've heard a lot more positive things about Kate so that's nice.

[@panonymousbloom5405]

She's a quintessential narcissistic assholes that shits on every other characters but for some reason everyone else is like "but she's so cool tho 🥺". Like, uh, no. "

[@blacklivesorblackvotes2985]

@@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 I hate Kate Bishop tho.

[@Comical_Jokester12]

9:51 Mootal: "Call him Yang."😂😂

[@ab-gail]

Underrated Metal quote

[@powerfist1340]

I'd like to note that Miss Minutes is voiced by Tara Strong, also known as Raven, Twilight Sparkle, Bubbles from Powerpuff Girls, Harley Quinn, Kyle Griffin, Cindy McPhearson, and many, many other roles. She's one of the most prolific voice actresses on earth. I say this because wHaT tHe FuUuU-?

[@absolutechaos13]

The Q bit got me thinking. It could be a fun joke in a time detective style show where the agent gets an oddly specific "history briefing" and then a collection of random objects that the Q analog knows will be useful. It could be fun for the audience to figure out why our hero needs, specifically, a pack of doublemint gum, a rubber chicken, and a hand grenade in addition to a refresher on 18th century British etiquette.

[@anyaabusable9888]

I was thinking it would make for an awesome Doctor Who spin off. Like the time cops that Jack Harkness was a part of was to show about them with like some time lord who's like their Q.

[@majomajo1835]

Clown music playing during a clown series with clownish writing and performances, at least that was fitting... Btw, why isn't the whole TVA storming this place immediately to catch the one guy who they need to save all timelines?!

[@peanutgallery4]

Including a Person of Clown

[@questionmarks4431]

"the machine will explode because it is processing too many timeline branches" My brother in Christ dublin infiniti doesn't mean anything, a machine that can take an infinite number of things won't start choking if you feed it infinity times infinity to it.

[@MBS-HomuZombie]

for a short moment of time... i thought "oh, loki can't use magic on sylvie coz they are suppose to be the same person" but then she uses her magic on him. Of course, i've put aside the many other reasons that makes the entire thought moot so whatever, i doubt i'll remember this show in a day or so anyway. also damn, that be a thirsty clock... and it can grow big... i wonder if there are enough fans for that to go there.

[@nobody2996]

'also damn, that be a thirsty clock... and it can grow big... i wonder if there are enough fans for that to go there.' If you put eyes on something, garunteed that the internet has already made a whole gallery of porn about it.

[@SassyCassie89]

King of the hill has a brilliant episode of clown school, kang actor is 100% like the antagonist of that episode. Obligatory "kang of the hill"

[@LXDangers]

Bravo Rags! Hologram joke was superb!

[@Valtuem]

Remember how in season 1 we're told Kang created the TVA to prevent any timelines where a Kang variant existed from popping up? Well, this episode establishes that there was a Kang variant in the Sacred Timeline the whole time.

[@lutajucientropija6643]

Good to see you here

[@Pythagoras180]

Living a meaningless life as a candle maker, and definitely not starting any multiversal wars.

[@Splobkingofsplob]

Having there be multiple Kangs who'd get defeated in different movies was an incredibly boneheaded idea right from the outset. All you're really doing is just showing me that one Kang is lame and easily-defeated by a B-list hero, especially since all he's really got going for him are super fleem lasers that make your CGI model disappear with a poof effect. A bunch of Kangs aren't really that much more scary, nor is any one specific Kang. This isn't some terrifying hivemind like the Flood or Tyranids either, just a bunch of dudes with vague notions of conquest who seem to have the collective intelligence between them of a bag of gravel.

[@darkpuppetlordful]

Should have had Renslayer, and other "TVA bosses" instead of kang himself. Imagine quantumania was a variant Renslayer who tried to usurp Kang and got banished to the Quantum realm for it (thus explaining why she'd be desperate for antmans shit to escape) The "dude A work for Guy B" method of villain set up works for a reason

[@slaapt]

Never forget the Quantummania Kang was the "scary" Kang all the other Kangs had to banish.

[@kirathekillernote2173]

"quarter to six" has whole different meaning for Kang

[@nont18411]

Already season 2 and I still never see any person who likes the character of Sylvie.

[@michaelm5542]

Even they shrugged her out of the series at the end. "Like, I dunno, she's off somewhere, probably."

[@thunderlighting2006]

There's that one chick who got pissed off with Mualer who says "I'm so gay for her"

[@panonymousbloom5405]

​@@thunderlighting2006i was about to say - the only people who like Sylvie are the people that already liked the actress.

[@jorgamund07]

Every time I see on of these EFAP episodes, my instinctive reaction is "oh no there's more Loki?"

[@councilofkarens729]

Disney. Where franchises go to die. Then Captain Boomerang pisses on their corpse......

[@citizen3000]

If it’s any consolation, Batman’s fictional and you can grow up at any time you wish to.

[@canaldecasta]

Don't bother the millenial projecting.

[@nhagan001]

@@citizen3000if it’s any consolation, they could have just made a good game to convince us instead. Keep in mind GROWN MEN created the comic book characters you say we should “grow up” from. Maybe you’ve heard of this ESPECIALLY creepy guy, Stan Lee. Oh he was the worst of them. Didn’t grow up for decades. Always making childish coloring books about these fictional characters that he kept imagining.

[@AlphaOmega1237]

​@@citizen3000And why are you protecting the faceless corporation who thinks literally pissing on the corpse of a beloved character that people grew up with is respecting the audience? Also, why did you bring up Batman when it's the flash being referenced? At least learn how to read before telling others to grow up. 😅

[@citizen3000]

@@AlphaOmega1237 Who said anything about respecting the audience? Why do you think you are owned that? You don’t need to ‘respect’ the audience. Nobody gives a fuck what you grew up with, it doesn’t make a difference to the choices a writer makes. Batman/the Flash - whatever. Doesn’t change my point. People are reacting hysterically most of all to the Batman death, but the Flash’s death is being referenced here. I got them mixed up because it’s the same hysterical, performative reaction. Neither of those characters is dead. They were never alive. You can ignore the story. The Flash isn’t a religious figure. Get a grip.

[@brandonchandlerMGnO]

A thought: Can we assume that Loki actively controls his illusion people from a distance? If so, then they can update him on stimuli in real time right? So then, why doesn't he just use his extra people to spread out in order to aid him in his search? Or nearly all the time for that matter, but even more so here.

[@ThelcarusWing]

The one thing I hate the most is how they have chase scenes in a show where time travel exists. You just traveled to November 2nd 1969 at 11:30am and then chase someone. They manage to escape you and the last time you saw them was at 11:47am. So, just time travel to that exact time and location and capture them. Or send more people if there's a problem with having two instances of the same person in the same timeline. I despise how poorly utilized time travel is in this show when it's the chekovs gun with unlimited ammo

[@TheManFromNan]

Never thought I’d live to see the day Disney make a thirsty clock. A clock that craves…male chickens

[@lordkrauser]

Not just male chickens. Big ol' black ones

[@hkaayaakuu]

The writing . The story. The world building . The characters. The casting. The dialogue. It is really really fukced

[@rainbowratto1834]

the second Ms Minutes changed color to more toned I thought "wait, just because the color grading in the scene is sepia, doesn't mean that in real life there it is sepia too, come on" and I'm glad that EFAP noticed it too

[@fr0ck360]

Miss Minutes managed to make me cringe beyond belief than any harem Anime I’ve seen

[@Atheismo9760]

29:35 It's more Scooby-Doo than Looney Tunes at this point.

[@mojomitts]

During that Standoff in the Warehouse, couldn’t Loki have just done a false projection thing and snuck up behind her? I believe he’s done stuff like that before.

[@laileleneirose7966]

Yes.

[@lordofthepizzapie9319]

You're using your brain. They don't do that over there in Disney.

[@TrisStrudel]

I absolutely hate how Loki’s powerset has been butchered not only here but across the entire MCU. The guy is a frost giant who can generate snow and ice at will. He is ageless, supernaturally strong, and durable . He carries sets of knives which he can deploy. He his skilled at ILLUSION magic. Now he’s able to teleport things, shoot light-based energy projectiles, and forgets most of what he can normally do at any given moment. Wouldn’t it have been so much cooler if Loki started to turn Frost Giant during the Brad interrogation, just to show him losing his cool? Literally the only time we saw that happen was in the first Thor movie and never again since.

[@darkpuppetlordful]

How dare yall, to compare this to the Looney Tunes is an insult to the decades of influence those wonderful toons built. Loki WISHES it had even 1% of the thoughtfulness the average Bugs Bunny or Marvin the Martian bit has

[@otterfire4712]

"I saw this in a tooth paste ad once"

[@under_score3829]

As someone who was intrigued by episode 1, I think the reason why some people liked 1 but not 2 or 3 is because Episode 1 had a lot of reveals and teases in it. It addressed the "Loki in an alternate TVA" question by revealing he's in the past - and allowed the present day storyline to continue by having him Time Slip. Also, anyone who likes concepts like that is going to enjoy it. Also, the recording with Kang and Ravonna hinted at a larger mystery box, as well as Loki Time Slipping to the future and the mystery of who pruned him - and the possibility that it's a scene from a future episode. Never underestimate the power of mysteries, answers, and new concepts.

[@pumpernickelrye9736]

On tonight's episode of the writer's barely disguised fetish: "So Kang. Do you want me to use the little hand? Or the big hand?"

[@kylefrank638]

2:08 One of the best jokes in the Guardians Holiday Special was Mantis and Drax arriving to Earth without a cloak and there was just a shot of a few people below crying and running away. Which is horrible when you think about it, but exactly what what would be happening, post-New York, and Snap, and Sokovia, and Ego goo, and whatever that Celestial showing up to snatch Sersi was,

[@kendrickexperience2556]

Hearing them talk about Jonathan before his conviction considering this was more than likely recorded well before his verdict is kinda weird.

[@earthlingcarl3179]

14:10 - You have the n-word pass here! lol

[@thegrimskull2055]

I have no mouth, and I must scream

[@EpicJasonX9000]

13:42 cue the Merrie Melodies “That’s All Folks! outro. XD

[@wizardcat7654]

Just for clarification not that the show does a good job helping you keep track of it, but Sylvie has a grudge against wrenslayer, because she was the one who took her away from her ODIN family. That's why their interaction is "meaningful". However the show doesn't do a good job making you care or be invested in either of these people.

[@darkpuppetlordful]

Except Sylvie has never shown real interest in her "real family" and iirc even implied she wasn't happy (presumably because she's a whaman so she must face oppression before she is "empowered")

[@wizardcat7654]

@@darkpuppetlordfulI know I'm just highlighting an aspect of the story that should be there, but does not seem to be from what I've seen.

[@grandarkfang_1482]

And yet, Sylvie is wasting time getting mad at Loki for trying to fix her mistake instead of going after and killing Renslayer and Minutes with ease.

[@Timothy_-ve2zp]

CLOCKUSSSY

[@lordofthepizzapie9319]

*BONK* Off to horny jail!

[@Atheismo9760]

Cussy for short.

[@Сайтамен]

Fridgussy

[@wakerobin9215]

The internet was a mistake

[@Cassandra112]

i can't believe you guys didnt notice the "I can control my anger better then you because I've been running the TVA the whole time!" nonsense.

[@JoJoDude1997]

Gota be honest the iA clock geting horny for its creators stutterer variant is something i didnt expect

[@Longshanks1690]

When Kang talked about him first discovering the ability to travel between dimensions and timelines, I - I think quite reasonably - predicted a scientist in the far off future many millennia ahead of our technological progress and capable of discovering that kind of tech which isn’t fathomable to us in the 21st century. …Is this episode seriously trying to say that in a time where literacy wasn’t even universal yet that this random scientist man pioneered technology that the rest of the planet would not be capable of even prototyping for THOUSANDS of years to come because he found a guidebook when he was a child? I… I genuinely feel insulted from how stupid that plot point is. I didn’t spend a penny on this and I still feel like I want a refund. 😑

[@slaapt]

It is like sending a tutorial for building your own gaming PC to the 1960 and expecting them to go "ah, so if I plug in the CPU like this, attach the cables to the nVidia 4080 GPU and the make sure the motherboard is compatible, I can run Crysis at max settings." Ignoring the fact that they need a billion dollar of infrastructure just to start imagining how to create the chips that are used in the machine to create the CPU.

[@Longshanks1690]

@@slaapt Nah, it’s significantly worse than that. In the 60s, computers already existed and were on their way to being something commercially available. I think the idea of video games would be perfectly plausible to someone back then and a mega genius would be able to conceptualise what this Gaming PC is no problem. The scale of the technology we’re talking about here is not realistically present for thousands of years because we literally have nothing close to it expect in fantasy/SciFi media. This is like dropping a PSP manual in the Iron Age and someone somehow makes a rudimentary version of a one with the tech available then. The stupidity of what’s being suggested here actually can’t be properly fathomed it’s so mind boggling.

[@somethingwithultra7231]

Mentioned it in my own comment, but I specifically genuinely remember the explanation being that he was from the 22nd century, not the 19th. Really weird how very specifically they placed it back a century instead. Edit: I can't believe I didn't google it before, but it's such an incredibly massive and weird change. The prospect is that He Who Remains is the last one of many Kangs who somehow got on top. Almost all of which are implied to just as him be born in the 31ST century. So why is there a Kang in 1893 even on an alternate timeline??? Even if it's not the sacred timeline, there's absolutely no reason why there should be any branch that has him there.

[@nhagan001]

Keep in mind Kang is a BLACK PERSON IN 1893 AMERICA. You think A black person was getting his level of wealth and respect that soon after THE CIVIL WAR AND RECONSTRUCTION ERA?

[@Pink.andahalf]

​@@nhagan001There are a few real examples of very successful black people in that time, but I get your point.

[@MinisterOfTruth]

even with a gun stuck to my head, I couldn't remember what the fuck happened last episode...

[@jobreau1725]

I dini’t expect a anime character to be one of the main characters of the episode but here we are

[@Hirome_Satou]

Watching Loki fumble around in awkward chase scenes is the only thing that brings me joy in life.

[@petery6432]

"Using the N-Word's fine" -Rags, 2023

[@SabbyNeko]

Wait, I thought the threat of Kang was that he would eventually discover time travel, no matter what, and every branch had one. Why do they need to give the Kang Variant a TVA handbook? If they didn't give it to him, would he not invent time travel? If he doesn't, how do the others?

[@charlesruteal9062]

During the Kang struggle session, I felt like the show reached Batwahmen levels of girlbossery. So glad I only watch these things through you guys.

[@Jedi_Spartan]

I'm interested to seeing their reactions to the end of episode 4...

[@laileleneirose7966]

Me too.

[@NamelessPhantom]

So Kang (a blackman) in the late 1800's (racism is still a thing) makes an omnipresent clock with the voice of a southern white woman (the south where they fought to keep slaves) and this clock is madly in love with him. Kang also hooked up with Ant man's mother in law (also a white woman). Is Disney setting up that Kang wants to destroy the universe because of his interracial fetish? Doesn't pair well with Jonathan Major's domestic violence allegations. What did Disney mean by this?

[@Zephyr503]

I thought Kang was from the 26th century. What does it mean to be a 'variant' of someone if you weren't born at the same time, to the same parents? Is Indiana Jones a 'variant' of Han Solo now? It's a lot easier to imagine a 26th-century man creating the TVA than this Nikola Tesla pastiche.

[@preemptiveheat8254]

Being a "variant" is pretty pointless when they don't say what is or isn't a variant. It's easy enough in concept I think, but they dropped the ball so hard in representing them by making all the Loki variants be different races, sexes, and even a different species. And now you can be a variant at a different time. So now everyone else is just as much a variant to each other as they are to themselves

[@bashenstuff4640]

Kang was a scientist that lived on Earth in the 31st Century, why did they need this 1893 version?

[@_JoJo_Enjoyer]

i hated sylvia before, but this is the episode where i REALLY started to hate her. IF she kills Victor, temporal loom will blow up, and EVERYONE is gonna die. EVERYONE, literally EVERYONE. Evrery timeline, sacred timeline, her mcdonalds timeline, TVA, EVERYONE FUCKING DIES. This is worse than scarlet witch, i swear to god.

[@Dr.Pelican-bw2zs]

I watched this entire show, and whenever anything happened plot-wise or technology-wise (or basically anything) I was like, "sure, that might as well happen".

[@yagamifire7861]

...does anyone find it strange that the Temporal Loom, the all-powerful super important McGuffin that can wipe out the TVA, can only be unlocked by Ms. Minutes OR by the temporal aura of Kang...including his variants? Y'know, the variants of He Who Remains...who are his most vicious potential enemies as outlined by He Who Remains himself? The ONLY people that can unlock the loom other than Ms. Minutes are HWR and ALL OF HIS WORST ENEMIES. WHAT?!?

[@sparkypack]

Timely! We are running out of Timely! TIMELY!!!

[@KelShu]

So if this takes place in 1893, did Timely ever dealt with racial setbacks or the Jim Crow Laws?

[@Сайтамен]

Yes, there's one slur from a moustached guy.

[@KelShu]

@@Сайтамен That's it?

[@realistic_delinquent]

@@Сайтамен except he calls him a hornswaggler, an Irish slur meaning trickster or conman.

[@thanatosdriver1938]

Let’s say he did offscreen to piss everyone off

[@grandarkfang_1482]

Apparently not.

[@Zero_2500]

Victor Timely speaks like Charlie in “It’s always sunny” in the episode where he takes pills that he thinks make him a genius. I found it funny both times 🤣

[@sarinat3101]

Time... is... something I.. put too.... much of..... between...... my words!

[@silastipton9982]

The loom much like the cake in portal is a lie

[@stevegt2682]

All the sighs at the end. The sound of the acceptance of misery.

[@Atheismo9760]

Starts in 5 hours? Damn teases.

[@sparkypack]

let me get Ms. Minutes on the line.

[@jeremyusreevu237]

I actually saw Ke Huy Quan get interviewed in person. That was pretty cool.

[@conan2096]

loki bumped off the guy rather than going through him cause hes trying to be low key. *instantly magics the guy* well no one would notice that right? shouldnt the whole room have freaked the fuck out?

[@Pythagoras180]

People _did_ react, and then Mobius said "The Amazing Loki everyone! He'll be here all week!" and then everybody applauded. Maybe actually watch the thing you're criticizing?

[@conan2096]

@@Pythagoras180 i asked a question, and you just answered it.

[@DuneStone6816]

I've honestly forgotten, what is Renslayer's goal?

[@TimorousEye]

To be the one in control or with those in control.

[@lukew6725]

To slay Ren

[@2ndRodeo_Keziah]

Aw man. Missed the premiere.

[@Instafail]

Loki has the power to Sean Bean people? God have mercy.

[@Maeryus1506]

L to the O KI. Dude be the gaw-d and he be holy cuz holy shit what a bad shoooww. thanks Metal for the inspiration.

[@somethingwithultra7231]

I'm honestly annoyed at the whole Kang thing. Because it's like someone accidentally said "he was born 1 century BEFORE the MCU" when the series I'm pretty sure stated he was from the 22nd century. Now sure that raises questions, but it's far more logical that he'd be someone that existed after most of the regular MCU timeline.

[@bilson7523]

What is going on with Miss Minutes? The entire first season I assumed she was some personification of the TVA computer in that building... Is she not made of light? I mean that is what the effect seemed to indicate. But now she has like a physical form? Where did that come from? Why would the TVA have it work that way? Or is she not an invention of the TVA now? Did she just decide to join up because she was already an eldritch being in the form of a clock and thought that fit with the theme the TVA was going for? Why is this show so dumb?

[@Genethagenius]

Why do so many of these films & games for a “modern” audience feel like bad pornographic fan fiction??? That Miss Minute plot, in addition to the whole “pansexual” Lando from “Solo” who was hinted had a relationship with his robot, leads me to believe someone (or many someones!) at Disney have a strange fetish…

[@irgendsoeinkek8800]

Little do they know that lokis "teleport someone" ability has a super long cooldown

[@AsperTheGhost]

It's his ulti.

[@samuellund1377]

Norse God of mischief Loki goes on adventures throughout time. Sounds like something fun, but instead we have man in suit with the occasional smoke bomb walks around watching a woman get angry and do everything for him.

[@Gooning_Chunguz]

26:36 Whamen loki almost made Mauler turn back to Welshmen

[@Jodanger37]

I cannot watch this without thinking of Nerdrodics Seinfeld edit of timely lol

[@Crimsin19937]

TVA's version of M's first word of advice for that time period: "okay, using the N word is fine!"

[@A-DeZ]

So after listening to the boogy efap and hearing the wrong trousers joke. I finally get to here the origanl joke that rags used

[@bad-people6510]

18:52 That's just a Tesla Coil. Those were invented two years earlier.

[@hkaayaakuu]

Episode was Watchmen 2019 meets Prestige 2006😂

[@FercPolo]

Imagine how Doc Brown would react to a talking clock AI, now see Kang, in actual western times, just accept it. SIGH

[@sigy4ever]

even with the group saying what I wasa thinking i still had to skip ms minutes shooting her shot in regards to kang