Fastest Man In The World Does Some Weird Things...

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Effortless Swimming

Effortless Swimming

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@EffortlessSwimming
@EffortlessSwimming 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried this 'galloping' style of freestyle?
@corruptedinc2621
@corruptedinc2621 4 жыл бұрын
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@kerambeach
@kerambeach 4 жыл бұрын
I try it for long distance swimming.
@frankeeeej
@frankeeeej 4 жыл бұрын
Man, Paltrinieri is like my fav swimmer right now :D I am trying to swim like this, and I have to say; -It REALLY works well for me on anything further than a 100m sprint -I can't swim slowly like this, it has to be like 90% of fullspeed or faster, haha (So I wonder if I could keep it up for, say, a 1500m race) -With my old 'classical' technique I tend to overglide waaaay to much, which this kind of style completely fixes :)
@timeo8999
@timeo8999 4 жыл бұрын
I was told my stroke was pretty bad, left side almost straight, the legs were a bit apart, kinda like resembles this gallop style and i use two beat kick also. I tried to fix them following advice from some expert in swimming. But my body wasnt flexible enough, it breaks my balance, i feel shoulder pain,i am drifting etc. I guess it had to do with i'm just 3 years in swimming and didnt have proper swim training. Right now, i am comfortable with what i can do and i can swim 1k 2k without problem. Seeing this video made me realized. Swim style is unique.
@ImhotepLex
@ImhotepLex 4 жыл бұрын
@@frankeeeej I agree completely with fixing an overglide with this stroke. It worked like a charm for me.
@jonathanlaue3460
@jonathanlaue3460 4 жыл бұрын
Love Brenton’s open mind and realisation that individuals are unique.
@fionalaughlin
@fionalaughlin 4 жыл бұрын
Hello there. This is Fiona Laughlin, daughter of the late Terry Laughlin Total Immersion founder. For some reason KZbin brought this video to my attention probably due to some algorithm. Often in videos like this I see many people in the comments section doing comparisons to Total Immersion and it’s unfortunate my Dad is no longer around to respond but as I was a TI Coach for 25 years and knew his intentions as well as anyone I’ll do my best to clarify a few common misconceptions about Terry and TI as reflected in comments I often see on other sites. 1. His primary intention was holistic not one-dimensional. What I mean by that is that although he came from a high end competitive swimming background and had great success with that, the intention with TI was not to ry to teach people to create speed by emulating world class swimmers. Yes he used certain individuals as examples of how TI is applicable to speed but speed was just one of many goals, not the primary goal and for many TI swimmers not even one of their goals. He responded to what was needed and wanted by the adult swimming community which for the most part a holistic EXPERIENCE. An experience of technique, pleasure, meditation, sense of connected with the element of water, ability to enjoy open water and feel confident and competent. For most adult TI swimmers, speed was not what they were looking for and he adapted to give people what THEY were looking for: Holistics. That is what really differentiated and still differentiates TI from all other swimming organizations. 2. Terry was not dogmatic about technique. TI technique was something that was a constantly evolving experiment that went through many ongoing changes over the years as a result of learning what worked with swimmers - thousands of swimmers of varying age, ability and intention - over many years. I coached with him at the very first TI workshop at Colgate University in upstate NY in 1989 and I can tell you from many years of TI since then that just about the only thing that is the same from the early days is the focus on balance being a keystone but even that changed in the application of how to achieve it. If there’s any perception of TI being dogmatic I would theorize that that is a result of what happens when there is mass demand and you have to create a teacher training curriculum in order to protect quality control and I have witnessed some TI coaches who have taken the training and then become dogmatic even criticizing me for going off-book in terms of adapting things to individuals or circumstances and that’s really more an individual personality trait than it is the intention of TI in its original intention. Teacher training does evolve over time along with experiments and successes that result from analyzing long-term results with many swimmers. 3. You can use TI to achieve speed absolutely and the struggle that some people have in getting there is more a reflection on the business model of TI than it is on the technique. TI as an independent organization, not affiliated with USS Swimming operated primarily by running weekend workshops where the goal was to start people off on a path. Very few people who attend TI clinics have ongoing everyday access to a TI Coach such as you would get at a Masters practice. Not ideal for a program predicated on a kaizen philosophy of ongoing Mastery where that constant feedback really is necessary to be able to progress. So I would say that the shortcoming in TI has more to do with the organization’s lack of accessibility for everyday coaching than it has to do with what is being taught. The online source is meant to provide for that but as a coach myself I would say nothing beats the real thing. In closing I would like to say that I am not offended by anyone who thinks TI is not for them. But what I see most often with those who conclude that, is they either have an incomplete knowledge/experience with it or a completely misguided interpretation often from people who are looking at swimming as a narrow one-dimensional speed game. TI never intended to fill that role, but rather always intended to make swimming accessible to everyone via its methodology and like everything in our material world always has areas where it can improve on that mission such as becoming more widely accessible in the logistical availability and price point modes. Thank you.
@fionalaughlin
@fionalaughlin 3 жыл бұрын
@Tribune Maximus Hi there. I’m not sure what you mean by “loping” - that’s not a term or intention that we use or teach at TI but I’ll assume that what you are referring to is the element of timing of the switch. When discussing the timing of the switch, it’s essential to consider balance and drag as greater influencers to speed and sustainability as opposed to narrowly looking at the amount of time that one spends “pulling”. I’m not sure what the basis of your disagreement was but in my past experience, the people who have disagreed on the timing of the switch element are not looking at the stroke as a whole including balance and drag and are only narrowly looking at the pull as the source of propulsion which is not as influention on the positive side as drag and imbalance are on the negative side so the holistic perspective is the needed shift in being able to have a mutually understood conversation. One needs to look not only at what positive gains one might make from an increased switch tempo but also look at what one loses on the negative side in terms of distance per stroke and speed of distance per stroke and energy expenditure per stroke on the balance and drag side when one sacrifices body position for turnover. There is a happy medium between these two aspects but far too many make the mistake at only looking at turnover at the expense of body position/drag/energy expense/sustainability etc and don’t realize that that exchange is often made in a way that is to their detriment. Thank you for your note! So to sum up the aim of TI, it is to establish and MAINTAIN the balance, body position and timing that allows for the least amount of drag which in turn allows for least loss (sorry for the double negative but it’s the only way to say it) in momentum in between strokes and then while holding onto that, building the tempo without giving up too much of the body position and timing. This is a very strategic practice. It’s not about having no focus on tempo - not at all. It’s about establishing and then maintaining balance and timing first and then strategically building speed and temp onto that incrementally so that one doesn’t just unconsciously switch over to a purely turnover based stroke which utterly lets go of the control of the body balance of decreased drag. I’m not sure what your conversation was with Terry but this is my educated guess based on conversations he had many times with others on this topic. Thanks!
@morespinach9832
@morespinach9832 3 ай бұрын
Briefer next time please.
@vininio
@vininio 4 жыл бұрын
Watching Shinji Takeuchi’s most graceful style and Gregorio’s “worst” style we understand that each one has it’s own purpose. Shinji can glide the entire pool with one stroke, but Gregorio is flying above the water!
@open_water2411
@open_water2411 4 жыл бұрын
He’s doing the Highland Fling with his legs and at times he barely has either of his arms out in front. I’m no longer bothered about style, I’ll just find out what works.
@kieranoloughlin
@kieranoloughlin 4 жыл бұрын
Gregorio Paltrinieri 90 SPM Ian Thorpe 76 SPM Strength vs Fitness vs Efficiency ..................... You can build strength, you can develop fitness but developing an elite level technique is the hardest one to harness. A great topic for discussion?
@lucashenveaux6080
@lucashenveaux6080 4 жыл бұрын
Except Ian was 76 on the 200 and Greg is 90 on the 1500 which is insane
@kieranoloughlin
@kieranoloughlin 4 жыл бұрын
@@lucashenveaux6080 So does this mean that Gregorio has a higher degree of fitness that Ian Thorpe ( 1500 m =15 min, 200m = 2 min), but Ian Thorpe has a high level of fitness but greater strength in delivering his power through the water with a more efficient stroke. Technically Gregorio has a shocking technique where as Thorpe is more of a text book swimmer. Gregorio just has this incredible motor inside that chest and is able to cover the 50 meters in 40 strokes. He probably has a huge wingspan that allows him to scope or reach for the water in front of him as Brenton has pointed out. Obviously a freak of nature !!
@jamiegutierrez8583
@jamiegutierrez8583 4 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered if my cross-over kick was a good thing or bad thing. Being a triathlete it's nice to know it helps save my legs.
@TheCalotes
@TheCalotes 4 жыл бұрын
Cross-over legs is ever a bad technique gesture, it doesn't help to save your legs anyway but makes your hips wrongly balance all the time and is like a plummet, Paltrinieri technique is awful but effective and Works for him but you Will never see any other good swimmer crossing-over legs like him.If you want to save yor legs you should learn to use them gently and smoothly as a balanced but never cross them!!
@frankeeeej
@frankeeeej 4 жыл бұрын
Mate, surely 'awful but effective' is an oxymoron ;)
@Arrica101
@Arrica101 4 жыл бұрын
@@frankeeeej no not really. It's effective for this guy because all of his wierd quirks and techniques somehow manage to produce this incredibly fast pace. I bet if literally anyone else tried to swim like this they would be way slower. The galloping style of stroke is fairly common now, everything else is just looks wrong in every aspect
@frankeeeej
@frankeeeej 4 жыл бұрын
@@Arrica101 Okay, so -firstly, 14:33 is the fastest any non-doping athlete has ever swum a 1500 so I'm gonna call it an unofficial world record. And for the life of me I can't see how his technique can be considered 'wrong' in any way shape or form when he's thát fast. Frankly, all of his competitors should try and copy him. -Secondly, swimming is not a judged sport. -Thirdly, I'm actually experimenting with this technique myself lately, and I did a 12:55 on an improvised 1k timetrail just 3 hours ago which is a pb for me. And I was left arm butterflying and cross kicking and everything :p
@jm6734
@jm6734 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheCalotes your thoughts on his style reminds me of the American cross country skier Bill Koch. He discovered that in spite of the norm: Diagonal skiing style he found better speed with his unique skate-like technique. At the time he was met with ridicule and considered a bit of an oddball. But with his success the sport federation quickly realised that he’s pioneering style was so superior in speed that the classic technique would soon be extinct if they didn’t take action. So to preserve the roots of the sport, they made skating into it’s own class. I would not be surprised if the effectiveness of the crossover kick would become unquestionable as the most effective style in the future. I dare say all revolutionary new techniques and methods of training has been met with the same: "Wrong!" until proven more effective. What’s considered ugly today may well become normal tomorrow. Speculating: If a crossover leg kick equals the set up for a more powerful Serape effect - exerting greater compressive force in the body for trusting the arms forward - like arrows on a bow - wouldn’t it make sense for all to swim like l Paltrinieri?
@GustavoA177
@GustavoA177 4 жыл бұрын
My opinion, (high tempo, low energy catch, good enough technique) for long distance, and most important of all he's a monster of an athlete
@kerambeach
@kerambeach 4 жыл бұрын
I remember a old interview about Ian Thorpe where he said that the most important about his swimming is his biceps, he concentrate on pushing the water with his biceps. Never heard that before but works for him quite well.
@zizouyoussef7944
@zizouyoussef7944 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent ....thanks
@sevencolours5014
@sevencolours5014 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting!
@sultanheart
@sultanheart 4 жыл бұрын
Biceps never push , it always pull.. i think you mean triceps
@zizouyoussef7944
@zizouyoussef7944 4 жыл бұрын
@@sultanheart Both ...biceps more
@casf120
@casf120 Жыл бұрын
@@sultanheart no I believe you miss understood. He doesn’t mean using the bicep as a muscle to contract, but rather along the arm where the biceps are, is the point where Ian wants to feel the pressure of the water on his arm as he strokes. Like his whole arm is a big paddle. Emphasizing that it’s not just his hand that is grabbing water, but even up at the bicep
@sscswimmer1
@sscswimmer1 4 жыл бұрын
As someone that does gallop, I'd say that a gallop isn't the ideal way to swim but rather makes the best of an unavoidable bad position in swimming; the breath. If we all had snorkels, we would probably never see a gallop. As you get to the highest levels, you expend more oxygen as you probably have more muscle mass and you need to breathe every other stroke. This turns 2 strokes into 1 cycle, as it would be with fly or breaststroke, and you can find a rhythm that uses both your natural buoyancy and the upward motion of the breath. Through breathing, you end up with your head up, regardless of how good your technique is. Where you have upward motion, you will obviously later have downward motion as well. Using this energy that's coming down onto your anchor, you get an insane connection to propel yourself. Basically, steering into the skid that is the up and down motion caused by the breath in the stroke.
@justrandomguy1288
@justrandomguy1288 4 жыл бұрын
Check out Caeleb Dressel's new video this week on his YT channel. Comes out Wednesday usually. He said he will critisize high elbow catch and gallop stroke.
@pauldarling330
@pauldarling330 4 жыл бұрын
@@justrandomguy1288 Different strokes for different folks. Caeleb isn't worrying about a 1500. He doesn't have to swim on the edge of anaerobic threshold for 14 minutes. He can blow right past the threshold. Yeah, this Italian guy's turns suck, too. Look at him. he barely makes it past the flags!
@justrandomguy1288
@justrandomguy1288 4 жыл бұрын
@@pauldarling330 Yeah I know but his insight on gallop freestyle and high elbow could be useful for distance swimmers too.
@idkphoenix
@idkphoenix 4 жыл бұрын
He's actually one of the few professionals who I've seen having a crossover kick with his legs. I got told off for doing that but it just swims better
@Michael-xl5hc
@Michael-xl5hc 4 жыл бұрын
This is almost exactly how I’ve swam since my junior year of high school and it destroyed my right shoulder. Just like him I’d use my right arm as a “launching” stroke to throw my left arm fast and low over the water. I had the gallop, the stroke pattern, everything. It’s like I’m watching a video of me swim. Recently I’ve been changing it to be healthier and faster(i sprint) and it’s hard to change up my stroke so much. Obviously I’m not nearly as good as him and I probably never will be. I just hope he takes seriously good care of his joints or he will be dealing with pain for the rest of his life like I am. He might already be...
@adamding3873
@adamding3873 4 жыл бұрын
Gregorio Paltrinieri is a little bit shorter and much slimmer than the other top swimmers. So he has to apply some special strategy. The most obvious is that he is asymmetric. Quickly recover from the weaker left side, then have a little longer recovery on the right, for better breathing and a little bit more gliding after the stronger right stroke. In order to recover from left as quick as possible, he rotates quickly to the right and his left arm recovers just above the water. Because his right arm stroke is more powerful, he compensates it by crossing the middle line a little bit, to keep his swimming direction straightforward. Traditional swimming tech emphasizes symmetry. However, no human is 100% symmetric. One arm is always stronger than the other. More and more top swimmers realize it, and fully utilize it. Such as Katie Ledecky, Sun Yang, etc.
@alexcave7573
@alexcave7573 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Brenton. By far the most useful freestyle video + advice/thoughts that I've ever seen !
@stefanosaltsitzoglou3771
@stefanosaltsitzoglou3771 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome analysis. It seems that a hybrid loping technique works like a charm for medium distance. His left pull is hip driven and his right pull is shoulder driven. Best of both worlds
@Arrica101
@Arrica101 4 жыл бұрын
Yea Ledeckie uses it as well. And safe to say she has dominated for the last 7 or 8 years. But to make it work you do have to be able to keep up a high stroke rate
@annak29
@annak29 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, his hips look not as perpendicular on the right pull, too.
@open_water2411
@open_water2411 4 жыл бұрын
Brenton, if you’d caught him young enough would you have tried to coach out some of these traits? Or would you have noticed the speed?
@christopherrogers3069
@christopherrogers3069 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! at 12:21 it was my first thought that he's using super efficient hips to connect his loping stroke with his crazy kick. Even better it looks like he has genius coordination to give it a drilling motion so that its not just pull and glide but also spinning propulsion
@jm6734
@jm6734 4 жыл бұрын
I happened to chat with a couple youngsters -swim team athletes the other day about technique. I mentioned Paltrinieri as I’ve just discovered him here and I find asymmetrical comes natural. (I’ve always thought that I just had terrible technique). Interestingly both swimmers instantly replied that he swam "very ugly" instead of the fact that he’s the world’s fastest.. I’m very happy to learn that there isn’t a particular right or wrong. This video has really made a difference to me. Especially the part about breathing timing.
@JackMott
@JackMott Жыл бұрын
It is hard to know if a person is fast despite bad technique, or because it isn’t actually bad.
@asl2g4u
@asl2g4u 4 жыл бұрын
5:15 Guess he doesn't have a front quadrant stroke either. Everything I know about swimming is a lie!
@deepzerocool
@deepzerocool 4 жыл бұрын
Guess because of the high stroke rate
@billybob6604
@billybob6604 4 жыл бұрын
spin cycle
@jm6734
@jm6734 4 жыл бұрын
Yeh pretty much not at all. I wonder if he slowed down this super fast cadence the legs would drop with it..
@lexsoft3969
@lexsoft3969 3 жыл бұрын
1:00 Because you ask that question, here is my answer : Freestyle : 1. Middle distance : Ian Thorpe, Yannick Agnel, Grant Hackett (esp his 4 beat kick). 2. Sprint : Alexander Popov and Roland Schoeman. Butterfly : Michael Phelps, Lazslo Cseh, Dennis Pankratov. I have a video on Pankratov drills which I like, esp his 2nd kick and breathing sideways. Breaststroke : Brendan Hansen Backstroke : Aaron Peirsol, Jeff Rouse, Camile Lacourt.
@yazminimagic
@yazminimagic 3 жыл бұрын
I guess this is why it is called FREESTYLE ;)
@barbaraalvstad8640
@barbaraalvstad8640 4 жыл бұрын
Jason Lezak galloped in his sprint free. John Mykennen also had a similar stroke. In the 70s we did the cross kick. His turnover is insanely fast and reminds me of the game changer sprint swimming distance swimmer Janet Evans.
@jtereva
@jtereva 4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a smoother Kieran Perkins from the 90’s.
@mooripo
@mooripo Жыл бұрын
never seen you struggle to analyse someone ever, that's funny, thanks a lot for your videos
@MrBraindead101
@MrBraindead101 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, I have a gallop. (though it's more a slow trot really!) I think in part it's caused by always breathing to the same side (the right). My stroke is like the video with the left arm being thrown and the right more looping. I have a kick that serves to balance out the differences in arm stroke. I also have that almost crossover of bodyline when pulling. What I don't have is that 14.33 speed! I do try and aim for the "train tracks" entry position but perhaps after seeing this I'll try and be a little more content with my stroke. The stroke rate is really interesting - one of the biggest drivers in my swimming was watching Kornelia Ender and aiming for her stroke rate. (Doesn't that date me?) Thanks so much for these videos, really interesting.
@tonyclifton542
@tonyclifton542 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a sun yang perfect technique orphan.
@texasbuzzard4970
@texasbuzzard4970 4 жыл бұрын
Never seen a swimming video outside the olympics but somehow I’m here at the end of the video
@suppaduppa5
@suppaduppa5 4 жыл бұрын
I definitely find a much better flow "galloping"... For some reason I find myself conserving energy instead of burning it more quickly. I thought I was doing everything wrong thanks for pointing out everyone having their own style!
@terrydunnett
@terrydunnett 4 жыл бұрын
He mostly breaths on the right which he favors to hold good form for an optimized opportunity to catch some air, then races his stroke on the left thus letting his form get lazy. This is where some coaches go bonkers and want to make corrections and confusing style elements with technique. Maybe he is compromising his form when racing, but corrects it during training. Love to have some of that sustainable speed.
@marcusconway4
@marcusconway4 4 жыл бұрын
He is doing all the basics well without upset or slowing his body velocity at the finish of each stroke. He is obviously extremely fit. He is well trained. He has a high stroke rate and he can maintain this for a long time. He also has fantastic power application on the water as he propels his body past his catch on the water. But interesting he wouldn’t be considered a textbook swimmer. In stating this he has ‘style’. His left arm out of the water is lower and arm swing is wider (low elbow) than his right arm (high elbow) breathing side, and number of other technically inefficient things. But he’s fast! I liked watching Danyon Loader, he tried to emulate he’s very smooth stroke.
@silversurfer8237
@silversurfer8237 4 жыл бұрын
The fundamental question is what style makes a swimmer hydrodynamic. Presumably with enough analysis and guidance, each swimmer can find the best swimming style suited to his/her body size, build and flexibility. After that then it is increasing stamina or power.
@robertandyjustus
@robertandyjustus 3 жыл бұрын
Haven't tried galloping. Great insight. Thanks
@pblaster7
@pblaster7 4 жыл бұрын
Dave Scott, 6-time Hawaii Ironman champion has exactly the same kick and similar galloping open water swim stroke.
@tcfoy
@tcfoy 4 жыл бұрын
I try to swim like Terry Laughlin but my legs still drop and drag. I only have 22-38 stroke rate so maybe that is part of my problem. I am 78 and love open water swimming but my times are too slow to complete half ironman swim within time limit.
@greghill6117
@greghill6117 4 жыл бұрын
Might be worth noting that Gregorio has hyper-mobility (double-jointed) which could attribute to his style.
@Arrica101
@Arrica101 4 жыл бұрын
Double jointed and hyper mobility are not the same thing
@greghill6117
@greghill6117 4 жыл бұрын
ewan andrew ok, he’s very flexible then. Lol
@adamding3873
@adamding3873 4 жыл бұрын
With 2 beat kick, you are more streamlined during a stroke. When you stroke from one side, the other side's arm and leg are almost in a straight line, and keep stable. So it is very efficient. 6 beat kick gives you a little bit more propulsion, and possibly raise you up a little higher from the water if you kick really hard, but in an unreasonably high cost, for a long distance swimmer. 2-beat + rotation, you will observe this strange cross kicking. But actually the 2 legs won't collide on each other.
@jeromedominicguegan4850
@jeromedominicguegan4850 9 ай бұрын
Nice video and excellent análisis. Thank you 👌
@scottwang7498
@scottwang7498 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting, the swimming is not symmetric. The mechanism is like: right arm is "pulling the water"; left arm is leveraging the accelerating force from right arm, and doing "extension" to achieve the maximum speed.
@seiti1
@seiti1 4 жыл бұрын
12:15 freestyle with dolphin kick drill
@chunyuenlau56
@chunyuenlau56 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Phelps also uses a gallop-like stroke in his record-breaking win at the 2008 Beijing Olympics 200m freestyle final. Looks like the gallop style is more common than first thought.
@billybob6604
@billybob6604 4 жыл бұрын
yup especially with his right arm
@FlaneurHawaii
@FlaneurHawaii 4 жыл бұрын
Is his stroke the reason he always seems to swim to one side of the lane, not in the middle? I noticed Gabriele Detti also has a high stroke rate.
@jimmcfarland9318
@jimmcfarland9318 4 ай бұрын
You can also use a single fin for timing, i e. left kick, right shoulder reach and catch, and other side.
@jonmengering8837
@jonmengering8837 4 жыл бұрын
always tried to model after Klete Keller's freestyle. Always enjoyed watching his stroke and tried to emulate best as I could
@lucapelizzardi7852
@lucapelizzardi7852 4 жыл бұрын
È italiano fra,lui fa bollire l'acqua prima di buttare la pasta è questo il segreto
@xtibite5609
@xtibite5609 4 жыл бұрын
i tried to swim like michael phelps...i failed
@Jeph629
@Jeph629 4 жыл бұрын
helluva delay/hesitation on the wall/turn, too! 0.25 sec delay per turn X 29 turns in a 1500m race =
@gybx4094
@gybx4094 3 жыл бұрын
His left arm is almost like an abbreviated butterfly recovery. Katie Ledecky's left arm goes slightly over the centerline. It seems like long distance swimmers are more likely to have unorthodox strokes for some reason.
@kvsdude
@kvsdude Жыл бұрын
Interesting that in the freeze frame at 11:50, his crossed legs still stay within the shadow of his body. Does this allow him to get more bend/power per kick without any extra drag?
@lexsoft3969
@lexsoft3969 3 жыл бұрын
0:57 1:09 Yeah. At last, I find you mentioned Alexander The Great Popov, and even show his drills. I have that video of his drills. But his drills are difficult for me to do.
@MrVpassenheim
@MrVpassenheim 4 жыл бұрын
Does the flipper fin exercise (12:30) also help with developing the butterfly stroke?
@abdelrahmanwagdy5552
@abdelrahmanwagdy5552 4 жыл бұрын
Could you show some drills for galloping style ?
@SamuraiSwimmer
@SamuraiSwimmer 4 жыл бұрын
His technique is similar to some of the distance champs from late 1970s and 1980s. Steve Holland, Tim Shaw, Brian Goodell, Bobby Hackett. Not spending a lot of energy on his kick.
@kaystoeffler
@kaystoeffler 4 жыл бұрын
Is it legitimate to use Finis Tempo Trainer in a race in order to maintain a consistent stroke rate? Maybe Paltrinieri used the device set at 90 beeps / min?
@pbakker
@pbakker 4 жыл бұрын
That thumbnail though 😄 nailed it again
@shadwabarghash8734
@shadwabarghash8734 3 жыл бұрын
maybe bilateral breathing (e.g. every 3rd stroke) could force his technique to be symmetrical (at least in training, if unpractical during the sprint / race)
@petar-boshnakov
@petar-boshnakov 4 жыл бұрын
Sun Yang.. any day. I guess i am not that tall nor flexible in the shoulder and more... Please do a vid on him and his technique too!
@deepzerocool
@deepzerocool 4 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@zizouyoussef7944
@zizouyoussef7944 4 жыл бұрын
he is a good dud ...olympique champ and Crawl machin
@Velleder
@Velleder 4 жыл бұрын
he is a cheater, why would you want to mold after him?
@deepzerocool
@deepzerocool 4 жыл бұрын
Kinieo his technique is still very amazing
@Velleder
@Velleder 4 жыл бұрын
@@deepzerocool no, he is only fast because he is a cheater, Paltrinieri is better either way.
@greenapple1069
@greenapple1069 4 ай бұрын
I'm wondering if Paltrineiri has swum like this since his first swimming lesson?
@lexsoft3969
@lexsoft3969 3 жыл бұрын
0:25-0:35 I agree with you. I don't like watching high rate of stroke in long distance, esp from a swimmer who is tall (1.91m). Florian Wellbrock and Mykhailo Romanchuk are the two current elite swimmers whom I want to watch in a race.
@christopherford4334
@christopherford4334 3 жыл бұрын
This technique may be better understood if told in a more overall way and by highlighting the differences with the more conventional technique.. Much front crawl swimming has been with a fast stroke and little body roll which requires considerable rotation and stress in the shoulder joints This is a very macho approach to fast swimming. A more relaxed and stylish crawl style which is not necessarily slower is one using more body rotation (roll), a straighter body and a slower and deeper power stroke requiring much less rotation in the shoulder joint. This creates a more pleasurable swim technique which is less likely to cause undue stress on the shoulder joints. I have developed this style independently and was surprised to see these videos presenting similar techniques. One criticism of so many swim videos is the repetitive concentration on details, while the filming of swimmers, including the underwater sequences, have been most illuminating and worth a thousand words.
@bachka2790
@bachka2790 4 жыл бұрын
Have you seen Janet Evans swim tho?
@tangarz5357
@tangarz5357 10 ай бұрын
I have AWAYS crossoverd kicked. Every time I try to stop I'm so much slower and more tired. I love to know if I'm still kicking alright but it interesting that my bad habit might not be so bad after all.
@MrVpassenheim
@MrVpassenheim 4 жыл бұрын
My swim stroke is like Paltrinieri's.
@simonsimon8213
@simonsimon8213 4 жыл бұрын
I tried to swim like sun yang he looks so effortless
@Cicadawee
@Cicadawee 3 жыл бұрын
All fastest long swimmer/triathletes have this undulating 1-2 stoke, most I asked said you can breathe much easier when you are on top and as you go down slightly to bubble out a slight pressure is taken out every pull on the breathing side. How do you explain this or analyze it? Add info: most athletes I have in the grassroots stage and some develop early on this kind of stroke(losses a lot first because of perceived bad technique) but eventually surpass their competitor later on as they develop those muscle especially on the distance even( Per our observation and study on this kind of style), it takes a lot of time to really see the potential due to physiology and maturity of the muscle.
@Cicadawee
@Cicadawee 4 жыл бұрын
isn't it that stroke first, then kick after on the same side, is the same as the effortless swim or the two-beat kick(4:50)?
@EffortlessSwimming
@EffortlessSwimming 4 жыл бұрын
the other way to think of it is kick down when your opposite hand enters. It's the same thing though
@Cicadawee
@Cicadawee 4 жыл бұрын
@@EffortlessSwimming the feel tho is different if the opposite(which is normal), when we tried experimenting two strokes for distance swim we found out lately that on same side-Hand first to enter followed by down kick on same side has different feel but faster(its like two rowers of a boat doing same stroke on each side, hand then kick sequence ) like we are seeing on the video. We were surprised to see it here actually. Tnx
@jamesbaxter4920
@jamesbaxter4920 3 жыл бұрын
"Man, sometimes it takes you a long time to sound like yourself." Miles Davis
@Scott2122232425
@Scott2122232425 4 жыл бұрын
He really hugs the ropes
@sambenkamel
@sambenkamel 4 жыл бұрын
An eagle can fly faster than a fly, not because of aerodynamics, but because the difference in speed and power. You can say the reason is the streamlines, but I see the reason is the mans power and hard work. He apparently seems to be very fast apart from how he moves his body.
@lexsoft3969
@lexsoft3969 3 жыл бұрын
Florian Wellbrock, with his low rate of stroke, beat him at WC 2019. Mykhailo Romanchuk who also has low rate of stroke, beat him too at Euro 2021 in which Wellbrock didn't participate.
@Poseidon-wx2gh
@Poseidon-wx2gh 4 жыл бұрын
This just shows that the most important thing is your strength of will
@django9858
@django9858 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Brenton, I don't remember you advocate crossover , peculiarities etc into one style . I always thought you said that's where we were going wrong 🤔
@alexvaughan5269
@alexvaughan5269 4 жыл бұрын
so, er.. 30 spm won't be quite good enough will it..?
@MissGimpsAlot
@MissGimpsAlot 4 жыл бұрын
So interesting!
@esportenetwork
@esportenetwork 4 жыл бұрын
Swimming like he can keep the pace between 1:15 to 1:20 in the 1500m. When I do the open catch I don't step 1:40
@Zumaray
@Zumaray 4 жыл бұрын
I think his very flexible feet are his biggest advantage!
@evolun
@evolun Жыл бұрын
what's his arm/wing span, looks huge
@jimmcfarland9318
@jimmcfarland9318 4 ай бұрын
Amazing cadence.
@RunStrength
@RunStrength 4 жыл бұрын
Sun Yang Swimming Style is my favorite
@phnk
@phnk 2 жыл бұрын
The race time jumps abruptly between 8:30 and 8:31, even though the video implies that those frames followed each other. What happened?
@Ineddiblehulk
@Ineddiblehulk 4 жыл бұрын
Good title and thumbnail Brenton - hope it starts brining you in some more traffic...
@ultras939
@ultras939 4 жыл бұрын
Inediblehulk he said the fastest but the fastest and the best is Phelps
@Ineddiblehulk
@Ineddiblehulk 4 жыл бұрын
...No.
@Jeph629
@Jeph629 4 жыл бұрын
IF he's crossing-over AND swimming in a straight line then he must be generating a vector opposite of his crossover......or he'd be swimming in a circle! That takes energy. Correct this. Don't cross-over, but use the energy to move forward. With respect to the kick, his crossed feet force him to keep his legs closer together, and closer together is preferable: consider the dolphin who has no option to separate his "legs" at all! Like whales and sharks their one-piece lower half is optimal for moving through the water. Primates (tree animals) need to act like dolphin if we want to swim like dolphin. (Very T.I., I know)
@bellybouncing
@bellybouncing 4 жыл бұрын
remember Jason Lezaks gold medal david & goliath miracle victory in 2008 olympics? he had same galloping asymmetrical stroke.
@Fuzcapp
@Fuzcapp 4 жыл бұрын
Ever try the Michael Klim? The straight-arm palm-slap style. Utterly wrong in every way - but hey ... world records in the 100m.
@valenciaketterley
@valenciaketterley 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a breaststroker so i used to try to copy kitajima a bunch lol
@zanzig
@zanzig 4 жыл бұрын
Omg we have the same "mistakes". So should I just keep it?
@grzesiek1x
@grzesiek1x 4 жыл бұрын
I am wondering if analising videos fro mcompetitions is a good thing.. because they are for their maximum so we can't really see the proper technique (if I could say that for professionals) but they are in maximal effort etc. Look at the olimpic weightlifting is the same ! The perfect technique with an empty bar but if they compete they do whatever is necessery to win but not particulery in perfect technique. Just my opinion...
@elimerritt7582
@elimerritt7582 4 жыл бұрын
I have had to change up my stroke a little bit every year because I’ve grown so much every year😭I’m currently at 6’5 but still growing and I just wanna be done so I can kick in a certain stroke technique. And yes backstroke is the best stroke no questions asked🙃
@alanramirez7368
@alanramirez7368 4 жыл бұрын
Damn bro you’re tall asf
@deepbluewaterful
@deepbluewaterful 4 жыл бұрын
Stroke rate?
@gosiasamosia7796
@gosiasamosia7796 4 жыл бұрын
Thorpe 💕
@hashekid1247
@hashekid1247 4 жыл бұрын
I try to swim like Micheal Phelps
@diegofraile2651
@diegofraile2651 4 жыл бұрын
It looks like he is jumping over the water, just like Phelps on a 200/400 free
@c.rucireta4755
@c.rucireta4755 4 жыл бұрын
"...from another rice..." 🤔
@DeanPattrick
@DeanPattrick 4 жыл бұрын
Win was taught in the 90s and I always hit the middle line... mates take the p*ss out of me as I look so old Skool.
@Siracussa
@Siracussa 4 жыл бұрын
why am I watching this??
@rude_broccoli
@rude_broccoli 4 жыл бұрын
Could be that if he were to correct these things he could get even faster. Perhaps he's losing form due to the race
@EffortlessSwimming
@EffortlessSwimming 4 жыл бұрын
He maintained his form throughout as seen by his ability to maintain the same stroke count and pace throughout the entire race. His crossover kick looks weird but allows him to maintain the 90spm comfortably while sitting really high in the water. The crossover the centreline during the entry and the final phase of the pull on his right hand could be something to change, but it might also be part of why his has such great connection through his stroke. Who knows!
@heshamaldhahiry95
@heshamaldhahiry95 4 жыл бұрын
Or maybe that's the form that works for him, that's probably got him all those wins? Hard to believe for most
@thealexandrios
@thealexandrios 4 жыл бұрын
I try to swim like vladimir salnikov
@natewilburn301
@natewilburn301 4 жыл бұрын
I tried to swim like Calaeb Dressel after he hit the 17 in the 50 free. Anyone else?
@GL-xe5vx
@GL-xe5vx 3 жыл бұрын
He does that probably just because his left upper back has some chronic pain like me.
@GL-xe5vx
@GL-xe5vx 3 жыл бұрын
And his upper body rotation to the left is not flexible enough.
@mrspybes8502
@mrspybes8502 4 жыл бұрын
phelps
@boxaboxlila
@boxaboxlila 4 жыл бұрын
Pellegrini has the same kick
@tristarO1
@tristarO1 4 жыл бұрын
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