Efnote 5 Machine Gunning Nightmare? - Settings to Help

Exploring the topic of Machine Gunning on electronic drums. And can it be fixed?

[@miguelsotero8636]

Thank you! Greate Video 🔥

[@JF-ym8ll]

Great video. I ended up getting the Efnote 7 in December. A few thoughts re this video. I agree with you. I don't ever notice machine gunning in a way that would throw me off while practicing. I can see how if folks are analyzing the audio on any given video, it would be more direct, and easy to hear imperfections. For me, I'm uninterested anyway in just using audio samples in a recording, but the access to frequent, really enjoyable quality practice time that the Efnotes allow me. I'm a songwriter who likes to play drums, but whose main instrument is guitar and bass. It is easy for me to write and record drum parts for a song, but since getting the Efnotes I've been able to practice so much more that my skill as an actual drummer, and not just someone composing parts on the drums, has increased substantially. I'm moving to a townhouse from a single family, though. And I noticed that you are using the Efnotes in an apartment. I was a bit worried that the tapping, really on the cymbals, and perhaps the bass drum, might be a problem in the townhouse. But given that it is an end unit, and only has one shared wall, and I have a contained room away from that shared wall, and the thing has a firewall, I think I'll be fine. But was wondering if you have any stuff to share about your experience playing these in an apartment setting? Have you had any neighbor issues, or do you have any tips for keeping tapping sounds from translating? I'm thinking of some fiberglass compressed boards and a few sound blankets that other drummers have recommended.

[@Bearvswolf]

Yea I think the machine gunning thing is overblown in general. I have played a very long time. And i would have never noticed had nobody mentioned it. I have never had any complaints. However, my place is on the ground floor. With one shared wall and one place above me. I also have a “musicians” schedule. So when I am usually playing and recording nobody is around during the day. I think the loudest part is the bass drum. Which you could always stuff with blankets or something. But yea I have never had issues.

[@jeffgermanich8105]

So in all honesty. Do you really like the Efnote 5. Thinking of picking this up for home practice and live use with the band I play in. BTW, how is the snare for buzz and press rolls? Thanks.

[@Bearvswolf]

I love mine yes. Keeps me practicing when i otherwise could not. Its ok for buzz rolls. Not perfect. But no electric is.

[@johnfrith7884]

Do you know if you would have the same kind of adjustment capabilities on a Roland TD 50 X thank you

[@Bearvswolf]

I would think so. If you check the replies on the pinned comment in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/haHbgpaCgt17Zq8si=__hngS3ijpfLFJWX Those are the settings I used on my old Roland kit. Not sure if they would translate but maybe.

[@gabe_irl]

Would the machine gunning sound be helped by using something like EZ Drummer rather than module samples? I just got my ef notr 5 kit and this video really helped! Thank you!

[@gabe_irl]

Oh, spoke too soon haha you mention it in the video

[@Bearvswolf]

Ha! So yes. I do think it gets better via a Software VST. My guess is they can use larger amounts of samples since our computers have huge hard drives. So the pearl mimic can run those VSTs but thats why it’s the price of a MacBook pro and you get no drums….a terrible buy if you ask me. But yes i do think the VSTs have an edge. 🤘

[@tadurall80]

Man I didn't realize it was that bad on these. Any other kits better?

[@gabe_irl]

@@tadurall80 based on my research you could go with a Roland kit for about a thousand or 2 more than the ef note 5 but you will still run into the machine gunning issue regardless at a certain threshold (mentioned in the video). I think the solution regardless of kit is to use samples on your computer (EZ Drummer or Superior Drummer or any others with good samples) to increase the dynamic range of the sounds.

[@gabe_irl]

Is there a specific map preset you use for the ef note 5 on Addictive Drums?

[@Bearvswolf]

I was planning to do a video on that next . Because efnote is generally not included in these VSTs. But for Addictive I just choose the TD-12 map. I think the only thing that didn’t map was the splash. But its easy enough to change in settings. Esp if you use Logic you can see the incoming midi note on the top bar. Near the bars and beats section. Then just switch whichever cymbal you want to map to that incoming midi note to assign to the splash.

[@gabe_irl]

@@Bearvswolf a video on that would be awesome! I also use Luna and Addicted Drums like you mentioned in the video so it would be super helpful!

[@gabe_irl]

When using mido it does sound like it has more dynamic range

[@Bearvswolf]

Listening back I tend to agree.

[@edvardstark7142]

Do you ever play with a speaker? And have any recommendations?

[@Bearvswolf]

I occasionally teach with one. I use a little 10 inch alto. Just because its light and i can set it up easily. I love yamaha PA speakers in general. But I also think a nice mixing set of speakers 5”, 7” maybe would sound nice in stereo. Some JBL or KRK or equivalent. Depends how loud you need it to go.

[@Bearvswolf]

The mid level yamaha 10 “ PA speakers sound amazing to me. Circa $400 bucks.