EG4 6000XP, Explaining how the generator settings work.

[@tjmooney4181]

You are a great asset to the off grid community 🙏

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

Thank you

[@rongray4118]

My wife and I are headed to being off grid in Northern Nevada. We are looking into setting up the off grid electrical in this manner (generator back-up). I will subscribe to see how your system is functioning in the future. Thank you for posting your video!

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

Thank you.

[@tjmooney4181]

Thank you so much for posting these videos, I'm connecting a honda 6500 to a clients tomorrow 🙌

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

Welcome.

[@johnkese8953]

Thank for the video! BUT, it is hard for me, a first time owner of a 6000EP, to FOLLOW what you are doing and what is happening on the screen. It would be very helpful if you explained what was on the screen and what you are doing when you keep pressing the buttons and the screen keeps changing, without any explanation as to why and what the items are that appear, especially at the top of the screen that you gloss over. Appreciate the video and gave “thumbs up” for doing it…..BUT, I’m more confused than when I started.😂

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

Thank you for the feedback. I think the generator settings have changed since this video was released.

[@LivingFree4All]

Hi Renaissance Man, Very Interesting! I just got my Grid hooked up to my inverter and hope to get to start playing with it this week. I got to learn these setting more and how to make it do what I want. Very interesting here, I am going to have to study more on what you have here in this video to make sure I understand what you are saying and how it would apply to me. More later, it's late and i've run out of time today lol. Super Thanks for showing this. I'll be in touch!

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

The 6000XP has lots of settings.

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

I'll be here.

[@LivingFree4All]

Super Thanks Dude! I got to spend more time researching with hopes I got it set right for the time being at AC volts Start 46.4V and end 49.6V only for if it get low with hopes my BMS will cut it off if something goes wrong lol, I feel a little like my head is on the chopping block but think that should work for now. @@theadventuresofarenaissancman

[@CalvinGorriaran]

Why do people use the EG4 Chargeinverter if they could plug the generator directly into the 6000XP?

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

ChargeVerter adds additional flexibility and supports 120v generators.

[@alzamboti8639]

I like the inverter but don't see any videos where actually a portable generator is used flawlessly with this system. Anyone any links or experiences?

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

I've tested it using inverter generator. Unfortunately, I don't have a "construction" generator to test.

[@user-cd6yd4eg9s]

How does one wire the dry contact relays to a generator for automatic start/stop?

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

You need a generator that supports a two wire NC NO remote start signal.

[@Moes_Prep_and_Tech]

Those fans are loud. Before this video I was seriously contemplating on getting one installed in the bedroom closet

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

That room is only 5 feet by 7 feet.

[@johndoe-oi7bq]

You could probably install some Noctua computer fans if they're compatible. Cheap fans are loud. You shouldn't need a lot of cooling capacity being in a climate controlled house, just make sure you have enough clearance if the closet is small.

[@cgutowski471]

Awesome video. Man there are a lot of settings on these. So if I have a 5kw max continuous 240v inverter generator I would need to keep my loads down AND limit my generator input amps so I don’t exceed the max output of generator? Will that work?

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

That's correct. You could use the EG4 Chargeverter if you wanted more flexibility.

[@tjmooney4181]

Is there a setting for making sure the generator only charges the batteries when my battery soc is low and i manually start it? I am using 1 6000xp, 1 powerpro battery and honda 6500 generator for reference 🤔

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

No, I don't think so. I'll take a look later today.

[@tjmooney4181]

The client I installed a 240v honda 6500 generator to the gen input of the inverter called today saying his powerpro wallmount hit 20% so he started the generator but when his generator would idle down every once in a while the TV would turn off? Still confused over what could cause this 🤔

[@Barc7580]

Great video. I find them very informative. Could you explain how to hook up the wiring from a generator inlet box to two or more 6000xp's ? Does the hook up need to go to each 6000 or to just the primary? With 2 6000's, I was thinking of wiring to a box inside near the inverters, but I wasn't sure how to make the connections from the box to each of the inverters. Thanks

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

I would use morris splice/connector. Morris Products 97643 Multi-Cable Connector, , Dual Entry, Black, 3 Ports, 250-6 Wire Range,, 5/16" Allen Hex a.co/d/71jLsYp They come in different sizes, shapes and other brand names.

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

Both inverters need to share the same generator and grid connection.

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

You may have noticed that the left inverter was turned off. I wired this up just for a quick video. I'm still in the process of redoing my setup.

[@Barc7580]

@@theadventuresofarenaissancman Thanks. I appreciate you answering my questions.

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

Welcome

[@sun4all299]

Please link the generator you use or make a video of it showing how it's wired into the inverter please and thank you. I'm trying to so the exact same setup

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

Champion Power Equipment 100520 8750-Watt DH Series Open Frame Inverter, Electric Start a.co/d/a1Mtkdo

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

I picked mine up at a local auction for $400. It was new but had a destroyed box and a small dent in the frame from a forklift.

[@051675cch]

I’m curious how the system works when the generator is sending power, the solar panels are sending in power and my house is drawing a load? Can the battery be charged and drain at the same time? Or does the generator and panels fill the load draw first and only send excess power to the battery to charge it.

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

When the Generator or Grid relays are enabled...that specific input will cover 100% of the load and add to the charging rate. Up to the maximum rate.

[@stifflerjj4]

I purchased the 46500 brand new in the box still signature solar is willing to give you $1,200 bucks back to switch over to the 6000 the issue I have is it will my Westinghouse 4500 watt inverter generator that is only single phase but 30 amp will that generator work on the 6000 XP for at minimum to charge the battery Bank I seen one of your comments said you'd use a small generator as well I was just wondering if you can use a 120 single phase inverter generator and maybe make a jumper wire to provide 110 to both legs enough to charge the batteries or there's a switch to switch the generator input to 120

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

No, you can use the ChargeVerter.

[@stifflerjj4]

@@theadventuresofarenaissancman I was trying to avoid using another source to charge battery Bank backup kind of defeats the purpose of an all-in-one if I have to segregate all my stuff would you recommend me updating to the 6000 or do you think the 6500 the better candidate

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

6500ex can work with 120v. 6000xp needs 240v split phase

[@stifflerjj4]

@@theadventuresofarenaissancman so the next question would be if using a charge inverter to charge the battery is back up with my 110 generator am I still able to utilize the dry contact Jenny start stop feature built into the XP and maybe a changing the setting so that once it reads the battery level at a certain level it opens the circuit back up just send the signal to turn off the generator and back on based on battery level

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

You can but I don't believe that your generator supports a two wire start.

[@watchman1982]

I assume your two 6000XP’s are wired in split phase? If so, is only one dedicated to Grid, Gen, Battery and PV input?

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

The inverters provide split phase. They are wire in parallel. Inv1 L1 and Inv2 L1 share the same subpannel bus. Inv1 and Inv2 L2 share the same bus.

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

They have to share the same generator and Grid. Solar PV will function independently.

[@sammyboyde6489]

I currently backfeed the house mains panel with a 12kw, 3600rpm diesel generator when grid power goes out. What would you think about taking that back fed power from the generator that is feeding the house mains panel and connecting it directly to the 240 VAC input terminals on the XP's when mains power goes out (instead of the gen terrms) for charging and supplying AC to the critical loads panel? Assuming the generated power has a THD below the max allowable 3% that the inverter requires, how much overhead would you think would be available to run critical loads after the charging load requirements? Nice videos, I've been a Vdub guy my whole life, know them inside out. Once had a bug that did 11's in the qtr, currently working on a Vanagon.

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

You can reduce your charging amps, if your generator struggles to power the house and dc charging.

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

DC Charging can use around 6,500 watts, assuming you set the charging to max.

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

3,600 comment about the generator make me think that it's not a low THD (inverter generator). In a perfect world, assume 80% load on the generator...6,500 watts charging, leaves you with 3,000 watts for the house.

[@sammyboyde6489]

@@theadventuresofarenaissancman Thanks for the math sir. I need to scope the generator and see what the THD is on the output before hooking it up like this. I just want to try and keep things manual and seperate. I do know that when I load that genertor up, it doesn't miss a beat, its not an inverter but it is a very strong unit.

[@norsk54472]

thanks

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

Welcome

[@jasonweb9720]

Can I use a small gen and if the load is more than the gen can out put. Will the inverter draw from the batteries?

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

No. You may want to look at buying a ChargeVerter. The ChargeVerter will work with 120v or 240v generators.

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

signaturesolar.com/eg4-chargeverter-battery-charger-48v-100a-5120w-output-240/120v-input?ref=M12gk_2DtiVacN

[@roysylvester5723]

hey renaissance man im learning alot from u but question... can i not have grid connection and generator connection at the same time,because when i do i cant get 6000xp to pull from generator... any thoughts....

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

You would need to turn off the grid breaker for Generator to work.

[@roysylvester5723]

@@theadventuresofarenaissancman yup i got it figured out.. thanks man

[@roysylvester5723]

well i thought i had it... flipped ac in breaker off, flipped gen in breaker on and it clicked clicked clicked several times and something popped inside and it shut down... not sure what happened but it is still working right now... kind of afraid to try it again....

[@roysylvester5723]

not sure what i did wrong... i wired up a floating neutral inverter generator to it but i only wired 2 hots and the ground... what u think happened...

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

That doesn't sound good

[@rongray4118]

What brand and size generator are you using for your back up?

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

Champion 7500 running watt open frame inverter generator.

[@theadventuresofarenaissancman]

I also have a 120v 3,500 watt open frame inverter generator.