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Cocktail Time with Kevin Kos

Cocktail Time with Kevin Kos

Күн бұрын

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@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
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@wesdotgord
@wesdotgord 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the videos!! Quick question: You didn't hydrate the gum arabic for 12 hours in the fridge this time unlike in the super syrup episode. Is this step no longer necessary?
@saritcarmon4714
@saritcarmon4714 Ай бұрын
I love your videos! Did you ever try just using albumin powder as an egg white substitute? I tried using 2.5gr albumin powder instead of egg white in a sour cocktail, and it produced a stable and thick layer of foam, i didn't feel like it added any taste of aroma to the cocktail.
@redpilledninja4634
@redpilledninja4634 4 күн бұрын
Kevin, I've tried this recipe, and no matter that I do I keep getting a slimy, non foamy substance. Any help?
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 4 күн бұрын
@@redpilledninja4634 what kind of methylcellulose you used?
@amilock
@amilock 10 ай бұрын
Fantastic recipe! Made a batch right after watching and froze it into 3/4 oz cubes. They work perfectly straight from the freezer using Dave Arnold's juice shake technique. Shake one cube alone with the cocktail ingredients until dissolved, then add ice and shake as normal. They will be a staple in my freezer from now on.
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
fantastic!
@tigman9318
@tigman9318 8 ай бұрын
How do you reckon the cubes last in the freezer? I bought some miracle foamer and find it has an awful smell to it. I'm looking for a relatively long life option cause I don't make egg white/foamed drinks very often!
@brandoneckert3479
@brandoneckert3479 10 ай бұрын
As a chemist and a bartender, I love to see you using a stir plate 😍 🥚
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
I love using it! Cheers!
@phantomhandofcocktailtime6911
@phantomhandofcocktailtime6911 10 ай бұрын
I always love to learn about new cocktail techniques. They’re Super in-Foam-ative 😂
@PipoBones
@PipoBones 10 ай бұрын
You were waiting to use that huh?
@dawgvet7756
@dawgvet7756 10 ай бұрын
@@PipoBonesYeah, I bet he was super egg-cited to use that yolk.
@edwardpossi
@edwardpossi 10 ай бұрын
I incorporated, made and sold so many cocktails as barmanager with super syrup, but also encountered this issue as well, as with low sugar sours, this is a really great video as always!
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thanks!
@miguelfaria5017
@miguelfaria5017 10 ай бұрын
Same here
@maximkuleshov8852
@maximkuleshov8852 Ай бұрын
I think I come up with a decent tweak for this technique. Texture, foaming and shelf stability is perfect, but it felt like something is missing in the taste, similar to eating a desert with no salt. And it actually is salt and msg. Egg whites contain 150 mg sodium (which translates to ~0.5 g of table salt) and 0.05 g (pretty annoying to measure) per 100 g. So I tried it and it taste exactly like egg whites and these minuscule additions of salt and msg makes the taste a bit more round and complete.
@AndreCavalheir0
@AndreCavalheir0 17 күн бұрын
How would it work on a Syphon, with a couple cream chargers? Would it create the same style of foam just slightly faster?
@hjewkes
@hjewkes 10 ай бұрын
That magnetic stirrer is a fun addition :D
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
for sure! I love using it! 🤩
@001Piffi
@001Piffi 10 ай бұрын
It's actually really smart. We've used a blender and it's painful to clean afterwards and it has to sit 24h before you put it in bottles. Will definitely buy one!
@mazer1996
@mazer1996 10 ай бұрын
thank you for sharing new techniques, i will try this one!
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
You’re welcome 😊
@ijohanalex
@ijohanalex 10 ай бұрын
Yes! A new version of the egg replacement video would be great!!
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
thanks!
@007dahu
@007dahu 10 ай бұрын
🥚 Thank you for this great alternative . Now let's try to find some methyl cellulose!
@liquidartzone8566
@liquidartzone8566 10 ай бұрын
What a great idea and technique, thank you Kevin for the inspirations. May I please know how long this super foam last for?
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
use it in a week
@Yuruyenconi
@Yuruyenconi 10 ай бұрын
You can also boil soapwort root and use its water. You can dry the same root, boil it and use it many times.
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
nice! I will try that too!
@MrZane777
@MrZane777 10 ай бұрын
Could you possibly use red wine for flavoring instead of water?
@JamesCook-4830
@JamesCook-4830 10 ай бұрын
🥚 the waste is also an issue for me. All these egg yolks end up sitting in the fridge, and while I tell myself I'm going to make hollandaise, it never happens. Having an ingredient that can be measured out as needed is perfect!
@Lasciatemi_Guidare
@Lasciatemi_Guidare 10 ай бұрын
Carbonara is also a good way to use up egg yolks!
@Default78334
@Default78334 10 ай бұрын
@@Lasciatemi_Guidare Or crème brûlée
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
Glad you like it!
@nilsroesel
@nilsroesel 10 ай бұрын
@KevinKos probably guar gum could help stabilizing I started using that in my orgeat and got a light foam which is actually pretty stable
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing! I will try this one out. Cheers!
@nilsroesel
@nilsroesel 10 ай бұрын
@@KevinKos but don’t put too much. On 50ml 1g should be fine 😌 but Iam actually not sure how it reacts without sugar. Iam gonna experiment there a bit
@greg_63
@greg_63 7 ай бұрын
Hi Kevin, is it possible to substitute xanthan gum? In PL the smallest pack of xanthan gum is 50 g. The similar case is with methyl celulose, but I would rather buy methyl celulose
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 7 ай бұрын
You don't need to use xanthan and gum Arabic. The essential ingredient here is methocell.
@djblsky6784
@djblsky6784 2 ай бұрын
Did you manage to find any shops that offers xanthan gum and methocell in reasonable amounts in PL or EU?
@themightyowl
@themightyowl 10 ай бұрын
Really good stuff Kevin! I was using the wrong methocel last time and now I have the right stuff 😊 Something to consider is that eggwhites do more than add texture. The proteins bind to tannins and will round out the taste of some cocktails (like milk in tea) but this is mostly applicable to barrel aged spirits.
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
Exactly. Maybe I will do another revision of this super foam in some time, to capture protein binding too. I already have something in my mind 😉🥂
@mchajen511
@mchajen511 4 ай бұрын
Hmmm, this led me down a rabbithole, but I think I might have found a vegan substitute: Chitosan from Aspergillus Niger. An area of study where the ability of egg white to in effect remove tannins is the process of fining (adding one thing to remove another) in wine making. There are different types of fining compound that have different purposes. Minerals for example are used to make wine more visually clear while proteins are used to remove tannins. The problem is that all proteins mentioned are animal based (gelatin, egg white, etc) there is however chitosan which normally is derived from shellfish but can be derived from the fungus Aspergillus Niger. I did not find anything regarding it's effect on tannins since the commercial offerings rather it toward other aspects of fining but it is the most promising I have found. It also is not water soluable but seems to be soluable in acidic water based solutions. I have no previous expertise in any of the above subject so my understanding is at best limited but more probably wrong, use it as a jumping of point for your won research and nothing more.
@flamedk22
@flamedk22 5 ай бұрын
I've made two batches of this and am not getting any foaming. The cocktails I make have a great mouth feel, but I can't manage to get the foam to happen. Any recommendations? Looking through other comments, I only see a mention or two of foam not working as expected, so I'm thinking it's me...
@markitossei
@markitossei 4 ай бұрын
Me tto I bought the wrong metilcellulose the first time now I tried again with the right one and now it's slightly foamy it got a little more xantan by mistake and actually the solution it got little solid maybe that's the problem
@OpeyemiAdelusi
@OpeyemiAdelusi 7 ай бұрын
Okay! Hydroxypropyl methylcellulose really does work! In fact, i can personally say it works *so much better* than egg white. So long, egg white!! Everyone needs to switch to this, immediately! Thanks Kevin!
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 6 ай бұрын
Cheers!
@dawgvet7756
@dawgvet7756 10 ай бұрын
This is fantastic, specially for friends that are hesitant to have raw egg whites when I make Pisco Sours. I love the fact that it can be frozen also. This may too early in your “trials” , you mentioned this can be frozen but can this be frozen and thawed multiple times without affecting foam texture?
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
You can freeze it, but instead of thawing and freezing it many times, store it in smaller bottles and take out small portions.
@tzor
@tzor 10 ай бұрын
I definitely would like to see other egg white alternatives. 🥚 I have nothing against egg whites, but I hate wasting good egg yolk.
@wesdotgord
@wesdotgord 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the videos!! Quick question: You didn't hydrate the gum arabic for 12 hours in the fridge this time unlike in the super syrup episode. Is this step no longer necessary?
@le4rningcurve380
@le4rningcurve380 10 ай бұрын
I've got the exact same question. Could maybe be using pre-hydrated gum arabic?
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
I chose to skip this step and take a faster and easier approach because the shelf life of super foam is shorter than that of super syrup. The super syrup technique involves mixing sugar with xanthan and water, which needs time to settle down. During this time, I took the opportunity to hydrate gum arabic even better.
@mattruz9238
@mattruz9238 10 ай бұрын
This is really helpful Kevin. Thank you. Being a home mixologist, I would still use egg whites for daily use. However, when we host cocktail parties it makes sense to use superfoam. I will learn this technique. Not a fan of sodium Benz. Preserve....all the best to you and the team. Well produced as always. Cheers!
@IMCRAZii95
@IMCRAZii95 9 ай бұрын
How long can it last in the fridge?
@lazyeyecomedy
@lazyeyecomedy 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this @KevinKos ! Really appreciate you taking the time to work on our niche little questions and requests!! Super Foam just replaced egg whites at the bar I manage! I adjusted the recipe to have 25% less gum arabic (15g) as i found that with the full 20g the solution would come out a bit too thick and with a less than surgical measurement the cocktail would start to feel like it was thickened... also with 15g of gum arabic the super foam never actually separates which is a nice plus!! My only question is what would you say the shelf life of this solution is? And what would be the main indicators to look out for in order to diagnose that? Thank you for everything you do! Love from Berlin!
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this! I would say to use it in a week, but it should be good for 10 days. Be aware of any mold clouds or particles. Also, you can freeze it for later use.
@lazyeyecomedy
@lazyeyecomedy 7 ай бұрын
@@KevinKos Thank youuuu
@JelenaTovarnicki
@JelenaTovarnicki Ай бұрын
@KevinKos How can I make it last longer without putting it in the fridge? What I should use? Thanks in advance!
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 26 күн бұрын
You wold need to lower the PH and ad sodium benzoate, but I guess it's easier to put it in the fridge.
@F_r_a_n_k_7
@F_r_a_n_k_7 10 ай бұрын
Hi Kevin! Can I use methylcellulose (E461) for food use?
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
Yes, that's what I use as well. Make sure it doesn't say that it's not food-safe. specialingredientseurope.com/products/methyl-cellulose-e461
@sapayuen7734
@sapayuen7734 10 күн бұрын
Would this recipe work if i put it into a cream whipper to make foam?
@CoffeinCowboy
@CoffeinCowboy 10 ай бұрын
Have you done any experiments with adding the superfoam into prebatched cocktails? Like how about the shelflife and foam when already mixed with alcohol and sugar and so? 🤔
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
Yes. Check out my batched cocktail episode. Cheers!
@bobaerbuddy
@bobaerbuddy 9 ай бұрын
I was searching a long time for a good alternative to fresh egg white, and because pasteurized egg white is available to me only with very limited shelf life and quite expensive as well, Aquafaba not really available around, and commercial powders are so disappointing, I will go with your recipe now! Having most of he components at hand already because I use them in molecular cooking, it's also an obvious thing to do. Thank you so much for this excellent video! Great fan of your content! 😃👍🙏
@xXDado88Xx
@xXDado88Xx Ай бұрын
they dont sell chickpeas cans in your country?
@QuinnHulsey
@QuinnHulsey 10 ай бұрын
Hey Kevin, love this concept. Seems very cost effective and less wasteful than eggs or Fee Foam. I may have missed it in the video, but I didn’t hear a recommendation for shelf life if you add the preservative. Did I miss this in the comments about Sodium Benzoate? Curious how much longer than a week it would extend.
@bruceharlick3322
@bruceharlick3322 10 ай бұрын
🥚 Great video, Kevin! Thanks so much; this looks like a great thing to try.
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
you are welcome! 🥂
@jakubpawowski9540
@jakubpawowski9540 5 ай бұрын
Is it necessary to have this magnetic stirrer?
@leonperler9619
@leonperler9619 6 ай бұрын
Amazing recipe! How much sodium benzoate would you add to this? How much would that prolong shelf life? Best regards
@drewdallas808
@drewdallas808 10 ай бұрын
Great video 👏 would ♥️ to see a video on 🥚 alternatives.
@TheCat48488
@TheCat48488 10 ай бұрын
Is it good for ramoz gin fizz?
@Mitzja94
@Mitzja94 10 ай бұрын
would love to know aswell!
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
the foam won't rise over the rim. It's not as firm as with the egg whites.
@Mitzja94
@Mitzja94 10 ай бұрын
@@KevinKos tysm!
@pierre-andredurand844
@pierre-andredurand844 9 ай бұрын
I'm curious what are the pros and cons compared to miraculous foamer Ms bitters ? Price/longevity/labor cost/efficiency
@MasterRabbitLP
@MasterRabbitLP 10 ай бұрын
Great video, I was waiting for something like this!
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@maghteridon5555
@maghteridon5555 10 ай бұрын
Is there any way, to make a batch of foamy cocktails without double shaking each serving? Is iSi the best option?
@kawonewilliams1949
@kawonewilliams1949 10 ай бұрын
I'm not sure how you don't have a degree in chemistry because this stuff is out of this world. The trial the error stages you go through must be lengthy. Awesome stuff.🥚
@Fhwqhgads
@Fhwqhgads 10 ай бұрын
egg white replacement breakdown please!
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
noted! Cheers!
@1212asddsa
@1212asddsa 10 ай бұрын
One thing that this technique is missing, is how albumin in egg white bindes with the tannins, I'd love to see a solution to that
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
Noted!
@dimasriogakusuguro4327
@dimasriogakusuguro4327 3 ай бұрын
HI kevin can we make using carboxy methycellulose and how the rattio thanks kevin
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 3 ай бұрын
Carboxy Methocell doesn't work
@nicolahohler3578
@nicolahohler3578 7 ай бұрын
Hi Kevin. I am trying to make foams with a syphon using this Methylcellulose mixture. It comes out nice and foamy but turns into liquid pretty fast. I've tryed to stabilize it adding Agar-Agar but it din't work. Any suggestion for making syphon foams without eggs? Thank you👏
@JessicaMorgani
@JessicaMorgani 10 ай бұрын
I really want to know if this can do the trick of pouring club soda around the spiny part of the bar spoon to get a tube of foam to form. It's one of my favorite party tricks and soft drink to make to children or just people who don't want to drink.
@crazyfilms101
@crazyfilms101 10 ай бұрын
I read on imbibe that you can more quickly hydrate gum arabic via sous vide (@145F, 2 hours). Do you think we’d be able skip the whisking / stirring entirely by doing the same with your mixture?
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
That might work too! Let me know if you'll try it out.
@ambulancier
@ambulancier 7 ай бұрын
Hi Kevin, I am pre batching and freezing a lot of my cocktails these days. Would this super foam keep its stability within a pre batched cocktail as well? Especially when i want to keep them frozen in my sous-vide bags?
@FinalRedemption
@FinalRedemption 10 ай бұрын
Can we use this in baking aswell??
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
"Methocell can be used in cooking, but I am not sure about the super foam. I believe that it has some uses in the kitchen, but I am unsure about the specifics. Perhaps there is a chef who could provide some ideas."
@manjeetmeister
@manjeetmeister 10 ай бұрын
From the looks it might have a better foaming effect than aquafaba. Well done. Would really like to see the comparison before stocking up on Methyl cellulose 🥚🐣🐓🍸
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
glad you like it! Cheers!
@MYork10
@MYork10 7 ай бұрын
How long can it remain usable?
@rodneywhitfield5754
@rodneywhitfield5754 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Kevin!
@robertbartkowski-wp7pf
@robertbartkowski-wp7pf 10 ай бұрын
Kevin, what do you think about using albumin egg white powder?
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
I made a whole video comparing different egg white options (including powdered), check it out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mne2gZZmppyfq80si=0pSMUNWXe01jKa3F
@YH-cb2lr
@YH-cb2lr 7 ай бұрын
Made and tried this a while ago for a ramos gin fizz. Turns out you can't get the pillar of foam using super foam as the foam collapses due to the soda water. Also depending on your gum arabic the color of the super foam may be different from the video (mine was orange-brownish after dissolving the gum arabic)
@volcamei6175
@volcamei6175 10 ай бұрын
How many Times you can keep this in fridge ?
@TweezyTwin
@TweezyTwin 5 ай бұрын
It works fantastic in drinks but when I try to use it to substitute egg whites in siphon foams it doesn’t work. For a second it looks perfect but then it deflates instantly. Any guess why? Thx
@addisonbean
@addisonbean 10 ай бұрын
I already have cellulose gum (sodium carboxymethyl cellulose). Is there any reason that wouldn't work instead of the methyl cellulose? Would I want to use the same amount?
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
Carboxymethyl cellulose doensn't work the same way.
@redpilledninja4634
@redpilledninja4634 4 күн бұрын
I tried this and got a brown, gooey and slimy result that don't foam at all. Any suggestions??
@notahotshot
@notahotshot 10 ай бұрын
I will definitely give this a try. I've been just skipping foam in my sour cocktails. Have you ever tried Fee Brothers Fee Foam? I have been thinking of giving it a try, it just calls for two drops in a standard cocktail, so i have doubts it affects mouthfeel very much. 🥚
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
I have tried some foam drops but I find some smell weird (not all of them though).
@dennisthurner3662
@dennisthurner3662 10 ай бұрын
If I use Methocel® F50 in your recipe instead of methyl cellulose can I use the same recipe or do I need to adjust it?
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
You can use the same recipe.
@Toruky-r8x
@Toruky-r8x 10 ай бұрын
Could you please tell me the name of the Magnetic Stirrer? Thanks a lot.😊
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
check out the link in the description.
@nicolahohler3578
@nicolahohler3578 10 ай бұрын
When I made the super syrup I combined that with Lemon Juice to make a sweet&sour. My confession is that I used store-bought lemon juice with a High shelf-life. I think that that, together with the sugar, gave the syrup a long shelf life, without having to add other preservatives. I might be wrong though
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
Also great idea!
@Vampiricdraco
@Vampiricdraco 10 ай бұрын
I have enjoy my isi whipper alot I use egg white alot I was thinking would this mix be a good replacement for the eggs for the whipper for other ppl I make drinks for that are not egg ppl for one reason or another?
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
you can use it with a nitro charger for a texture simmilar when shaking.
@pavelalexandrov4540
@pavelalexandrov4540 10 ай бұрын
Hi Kevin! Why are you saying that super foam will flake off due to the addition of gum arabic? Isn't it equipped with an emulsifier, which on the contrary allows the liquid to be homogeneous?
@Tlong1954
@Tlong1954 10 ай бұрын
What is an accurate way to measure .3g my digital scale only does whole numbers
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
round it to the point your scale can messure. Although precision scale is super handy and cheap. Check out the link in the description to get yours on Amazon.
@JSOS
@JSOS 10 ай бұрын
As always so good and well explained. Cheers 👌
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks!
@captainfyeah
@captainfyeah 10 ай бұрын
how do we make saline solution?
@biwo.cocktails
@biwo.cocktails 10 ай бұрын
10g salt to 40g water
@robertbartkowski-wp7pf
@robertbartkowski-wp7pf 10 ай бұрын
Kevin, I have a question, we don't have to pre-soak the gum arabic?
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
I chose to skip this step and take a faster and easier approach because the shelf life of super foam is shorter than that of super syrup. The super syrup technique involves mixing sugar with xanthan and water, which needs time to settle down. During this time, I took the opportunity to hydrate gum arabic even better.
@djblsky6784
@djblsky6784 10 минут бұрын
My super foam ended up being brown. Is this a problem?
@Adamscommabrett
@Adamscommabrett 6 ай бұрын
Is the foam issue with the white lady abv based? I always struggled using egg whites to get good foam on a white lady since it has more booze in it than a whisky sour. My solution has been to simply do a quick shake sans egg white to get some dilution into the drink, then add egg, shake, strain, dry shake. It's annoying but it works. Since you're dry shaking all these anyway, is there really a reason to add the super foam to the cocktail during the first shake? Seems like you could just omit that, then eliminate the contact with the alcohol at a higher concentration (assuming the alcohol is the issue).
@simonelazzarini
@simonelazzarini 10 ай бұрын
Great video, as usual. Thank you! 🥚
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@degaulledai
@degaulledai 10 ай бұрын
Sodium Benzoate is only an effective preservative at acidic pH! I would revise that section of the video with a different preservative.
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
thank you for the info!
@jowoh
@jowoh 10 ай бұрын
In my experience. Everything dissolves better if you use warm/hot water (80°) and then use a stick blender in a pot (leave the blending part on the ground of the pot and be careful not to mix in any air) Then leave it for 24 hours. I feel you can prepare a higher quantity with the stick blender in one pot then with the mixing plate
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing!
@serotoninzero
@serotoninzero 10 ай бұрын
Definitely going to give this a shot and test it against some egg whites. That being said, even if its great, can't get rid of eggs totally. Flips are too damn good.
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
For sure! Nogs and flips has te be made with egg. Cheers!
@eDunaway07
@eDunaway07 10 ай бұрын
What's the shelf life?
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
use it in a week
@eDunaway07
@eDunaway07 10 ай бұрын
@@KevinKos Thanks!
@fabr1out959
@fabr1out959 10 ай бұрын
Unfortunately I'm run out of the Arabic gum powdered, at the moment in my hands I've some soy lecithin powder, I read that could be a substitute for arabic gum. Can I use it or I made just a big messy😅 with the same quantities ?
@pravex_
@pravex_ 10 ай бұрын
Since i cant find methocel in my country, is cosmetic grade hpmc safe to use?
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
no! Only food grade methocell
@pravex_
@pravex_ 10 ай бұрын
@@KevinKosits good that i asked 😅
@yarinchen9481
@yarinchen9481 10 ай бұрын
I was waiting for so long for this! Kevin you are amazing!!!
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
Glad you like it! Cheers!
@DavidGelland-y5j
@DavidGelland-y5j 10 ай бұрын
Hi Kevin, I would appreciate some guidance. I followed your steps and also found that the super foam used in gin cocktails deteriorates rapidly, in my case within 90 seconds. Whiskey performed similarly when served in a coupe. The foam held up better in both cases in a cubed rocks glass, with whiskey outperforming gin by ~2 minutes. Upon pouring cocktails with super foam, I can hear the foam aggressively fizz to the point that it sounds like static, as all the micro bubbles are rapidly deteriorating. Is this something you also experienced, and if so, was it to a similar extent? Ideally in order to compete with the stability of egg white, the foam should at least 5 minutes undisturbed, if not more. Would love to hear your thoughts on this, thank you. Edit: Also, I am using the correct Methocel F50 from modernist pantry.
@rokiolo25
@rokiolo25 6 ай бұрын
Hey, I am having the same situation. My bubbles are big, not as small as egg whites would create and also they are going by really quickly, after a few seconds I have a layer smaller than 1cm, it is behaving nothing like egg whites. Also I am using pure methylcellulose, the same as Kevin but not the type found at the modernist pantry. Did you find any workarounds?
@firasyoussef9236
@firasyoussef9236 10 ай бұрын
🥚 bravo 👏🏼 Always very inspiring 🍸
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! 🤗
@georgekaiho2534
@georgekaiho2534 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video! I played around with it for a week or so and this is my thoughts. It won't 100% replace egg white's texture. For example, you can't really do the Angostura dots and such. So instead, Im making different flavored foam. combine 1/2oz each of the Super foam, water, and flavor (I'v been using stronger flavor stuff like Campari, Cynar, etc) then use a latte whisker and froth it until it becomes a foam. Let it sit on top of your cocktail. This way, you can easily whip up different flavored foams as you like and don't have to batch is it like the Gelatine and iSi canister method. Thank you.
@MartinDoudoroffLLC
@MartinDoudoroffLLC 10 ай бұрын
Very cool.
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@danjennings5068
@danjennings5068 10 ай бұрын
I'm curious if methylcellulose or one of the gums would help the chickpea based foamers with their mouthfeel. I've tried them multiple times against eggs and the foam is good, but it separates into a dense head much faster than the egg based foam, and the mouthfeel is much thinner, doesn't have that silkyness that the eggs impart. To the chemistry set!!!
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
Let me know what you'll find out! Cheers!
@danjennings5068
@danjennings5068 10 ай бұрын
@@KevinKos I made some but realized I don't have any eggs! Testing is delayed
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
@@danjennings5068 no worries! Let m eknow when is in the full swing again.
@danjennings5068
@danjennings5068 10 ай бұрын
@@KevinKos Took forever but finally did the comparison. The 7.5% gum added to the faba foamer did improve its texture greatly but it still doesn't stand up to the egg or superfoam in texture. Also the faba foam does bring a touch of its own flavor, and at least the stuff I have is pretty dark so it affects the color of the resulting cocktail as well. I like the ease of the faba foamer being able to whip up a foamer without planning ahead but I'll probably use up what I have and switch to superfoam.
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
@@danjennings5068 thank you for such valuable update! Cheers!
@cezarychmura1842
@cezarychmura1842 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for including my comment I guess? :D I make mine without gum arabic, because of the yellowish tint it gives. Also gum arabic I bought brings a weird tingling sensation, perhaps something's wrong with it. Anyway, using enough xantan produces similar results, I didn't see much benefits of using gum arabic
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
Make sure to use food grade gum arabic. I used it for the texture and color. It looks almost the same as eg whites. Thank you for your feedback!
@curiouskittykay
@curiouskittykay 10 ай бұрын
Help please! I tried three times at this point and it just will not foam :(
@bellng2752
@bellng2752 9 ай бұрын
Having the same issue. It foams up on my part but the layer is very thin, close to none. I used 30ml~1oz. Both Dry shaken and Reverse Dry shaken, comes out the same.
@rokiolo25
@rokiolo25 6 ай бұрын
Im having the same problem with pure Methy and the same recipe, on try two right now.
@SamChow-f8m
@SamChow-f8m 10 ай бұрын
🥚 great video!
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
thanks!
@noachav
@noachav 10 ай бұрын
🥚. I was also wondering whether the methylcellulose from Modernist Pantry would work in your recipe.
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
I think so!
@studiohanson
@studiohanson 10 ай бұрын
Modernist Pantry makes several different versions. Get their Methocel F50.
@ogikpermana2249
@ogikpermana2249 10 ай бұрын
Someone can help me, I made this super syrup and super foam with exactly sam ingrendiets but the foam doesn't thick as kevin got . Why ?
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
Do you use the right methocell? Some used CMC, and this doesn't work.
@bellng2752
@bellng2752 9 ай бұрын
​@@KevinKos Hi! Love your content. I used HPMC as you said but it still doesn't foam up. Can u help me out there?
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 9 ай бұрын
@@bellng2752 Sorry to hear this method didn't work for you. Did you use precision scale? Did you hydrate Methocell properly?
@rokiolo25
@rokiolo25 6 ай бұрын
@@KevinKos stir until fully dissolved, is there anything more to it. Im having same problem
@mrcdad
@mrcdad 5 ай бұрын
The man's got style!
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Niaaal
@Niaaal 10 ай бұрын
Thank you on behalf of vegans and people sensitive to raw egg smell in cocktails! Can't wait to make it
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
You're so welcome! Cheers!
@ViniciusCampos-f2o
@ViniciusCampos-f2o 10 ай бұрын
My guess for the foam dissipating fast on the second cocktail is that the oils from the lemon peel broke the surface tension. But I am not scientist.
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
We tried another one without the spraying oils on top and the result was the same.
@pietromessina1480
@pietromessina1480 10 ай бұрын
Tomas con gusto hombre, se ve que le das duro!❤💪💪💪
10 ай бұрын
I totally forgot to add 🥚 emoji in the edit. 😅 awesome presentation!
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
No worries! Cheers!
@DavidGelland
@DavidGelland 10 ай бұрын
In Liquid Intelligence, Dave Arnold mentions how the polyphenols in eggs strip astringency and color from whiskey in a whiskey sour, resulting in a lighter and smoother taste. In a side by side comparison, do you think egg whites would make for a substantial taste difference?
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
There would be a slight difference, for sure, but not that substantial.
@LuisOrtega-jn4vd
@LuisOrtega-jn4vd 10 ай бұрын
Great recipe Kevin, thanks for sharing, Saludos from Costa Rica!!
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
My pleasure! 🥂
@РомаОрлов-ь9з
@РомаОрлов-ь9з 10 ай бұрын
soap root, try this
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
thanks!
@markitossei
@markitossei 10 ай бұрын
How about using a blender instead mixing and let it rest in a bottle?
@markitossei
@markitossei 10 ай бұрын
By the way awesome as always 👍
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
it will make it too foamy so it's best to mix it gently.
@erestadiantara7089
@erestadiantara7089 10 ай бұрын
kevin can we use only xantana
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
No, but you can use only Methocell.
@schilling3003
@schilling3003 10 ай бұрын
If you are using Sodium Benzoate as a preservative you would first need to acidify the liquid. I doubt the pH is low enough for Sodium Benzoate to be effective.
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
thank you for letting me know! Cheers!
@stefankirst3234
@stefankirst3234 10 ай бұрын
Can`t wait to try this! Not a vegan but I alway found raw eggs in food rather unappealing...
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
cheers!
@stefankirst3234
@stefankirst3234 10 ай бұрын
​@@KevinKos I actually made a batch on sunday and tried it in a London Frog and a Pisco Sour. It worked beautifully! Neutral taste. Easy to make and use. Great foam! I think this will be the new standard.
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
@@stefankirst3234 foamtastic! 😉😉🥂🥂
@FinalRedemption
@FinalRedemption 10 ай бұрын
AHHHH NOOO I just made a liter of super syrup :|
@KevinKos
@KevinKos 10 ай бұрын
So sorry 😅
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