Evolution of the Old Fashioned Cocktail - 1806 to 2050!

[@KevinKos]

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[@ellyam991]

🐻 I just want a bag of angostura gummy bears

[@KevinKos]

Brought to you by Kevin Kos and the House of Angostura? 😎

[@ellyam991]

@@KevinKos I'm starting the #AngosturaCocktailTime trend right now

[@jeremygold6331]

Anyone tell Greg from HTD about this yet?

[@jeffdonegan2062]

We had a bar manager in seattle make amontillado sherry hard candies. I’d fuck with both of those

[@ellyam991]

@@jeffdonegan2062 now you're talking. We can get brands to do a bartender's Advent calendar

[@photojoseph]

I've never stopped what i was doing so quickly to jump to a video…

[@KevinKos]

Nothing like learning about a true classic!

[@torsloke]

This video gave an actual answer to one of the funniest things my wife has said (which is saying something, as she is very funny). I was pondering, "What was the Old Fashioned called when it was new?" Wife, "A Fashioned."

[@KevinKos]

Haha that's pretty clever! Maybe she's right and it just got lost in the murky history of cocktails 😉🥃

[@mattmason4338]

🐻 First time I've seen someone predict a "future" version of a cocktail, great idea! Would love to see an episode on how you arrived at the final build. Cheers!

[@KevinKos]

Thank you, glad you liked it! And I'll cover that at one point in the future, long before 2050, so you'll be ready. 💪😉

[@photojoseph]

Now that's an episode I would have loved to have been there for haha 🐻 -- next time you're over I'll have to make you my "Manhattan Fashion" -- kind of a hybrid Old Fashioned + Manhattan!

[@KevinKos]

I can't wait to try it out! 🤩

[@DJ-fn3jm]

I definitely need to know how to make that Orange Tuile

[@KevinKos]

Awesome, noted! 🍊

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[@janneluomajoki4897]

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[@observer1689]

Rittenhouse Rye Bottled in Bond is one of the best values on the whiskey market. 100 proof for less than $30 US and it makes a great old-fashioned.

[@BourbonISvegan]

£40/ $54 in UK, Sazerac Rye (I love it 😅) is £28/ $37.40 on Amazon. They have the bourbon market pretty sewn up over here, unfortunately 😢

[@bruceharlick3322]

🐻 I would love that episode on the 2050-level ingredients! Nice video; thank you!

[@KevinKos]

Noted! ✅

[@starhustler]

Agree, what an episode! I enjoy American Whiskey and the Old Fashioned was my gateway into the spirit world. Yes, I want the longer episode in detail, 🐻. Cheers!

[@zroni.motta17]

It’s so nice to see someone showing some love to the Maker’s Mark Old Fashioned, it’s what made it become my favorite drink. Going from a Rye based spirit to a Rye-Free spirit was the change that made my fall in love with the Old Fashioned! Congrats on the amazing video!

[@KevinKos]

Thank you! I think the beauty of all these different ways to make an Old Fashioned is that you can really find something that suits your taste and enjoy it with a passion. 🥃 Cheers!

[@cfhollister8766]

Great video, especially in concept (and of course, execution)... but informative with a bit of history, an interesting story with the cocktail's evolution, and finally something original by you that also inspires us to imagine our own takes on the future of the Old Fashioned. Again, great video!

[@KevinKos]

Thank you for a wonderful comment! 😊

[@imrahil_327]

🐻 Love the video as always, very interested in the two garnishes on the future-cocktail! They both look great!

[@KevinKos]

Thank you so much. Stay tuned for a future episode about garnishes. Cheers! 🥂

[@MaxwellMcAdams]

🐻 Really enjoyed this one - both from a conceptual and recipe standpoint. Thought it was a well-balanced blend of history and how-to, and your future-forward entry into the Old Fashioned cocktail canon was a fun twist. Thanks!

[@KevinKos]

Thank you, it was a fun episode to make and I'm glad it turned out great! 🥃

[@ericazimmerman4110]

Angostura gummy bears 🐻 You had me at Angostura, love a Trinidad Sour, another cocktail video.

[@chadmasche1594]

I like that you included the Wisconsin Old Fashioned. Most people outside of Wisconsin have no idea.

[@chadmasche1594]

In Wisconsin, we grew up drinking brandy slush at Christmas time. It's low in alcohol when mixed with 7 Up, so a child can have one without getting intoxicated. Our old fashioned is basically an adult version of the brandy slush. It's not for everyone. We get it.

[@Pierre-AlexandreVincent]

🧸 both the gummy bear and the orange tuile seem absolutely delicious and look amazing. Looking forward to that episode.

[@KevinKos]

Noted, stay tuned! 😉

[@aleksacesljar3102]

Loved the episode 🐻

[@KevinKos]

Awesome! Thanks! 🥂

[@marcschonholzer7995]

🐻 Great video as always! And I would love to see how these garnishes were made! And could you once also make a video about how the Whisky Sour evolved over time?

[@KevinKos]

Thanks for the idea!

[@ImmortalGodEmperor]

🐻 Angostura gummy bears man, that's dope.

[@Rakadis]

@Kevin I was intrigued with the Liber & Co’s Old Fashioned sirup, but to my dismay they do not ship to Europe. Can you recommend an alternative? Or perhaps an idea for a video; How to make Old Fashioned sirup?

[@KevinKos]

Hopefully they will soon ship here too. So far I haven't see any other brand that would offer something similar. That's a great idea for the episode!

[@jamesiyer4937]

Another awesome video, thanks Kevin!

[@KevinKos]

Glad you enjoyed it! 🥃

[@zroni.motta17]

Absolutely amazing video!

[@KevinKos]

Glad you love it! Cheers! 🥂

[@alexramos9953]

🧸🐻 Another great ep!

[@KevinKos]

Thank you!

[@jaspervangheluwe7531]

Amazing video, good balance of history and recipe. I couldn’t find that episode about the tinctures and syrups, can you send the link?

[@KevinKos]

A little mix-up with posting 🫣 It's coming soon, stay tuned!

[@jaspervangheluwe7531]

@@KevinKos , haha, looking forward to it! Been looking for a good video on that subject, without success.

[@chrolloackerman6471]

where do you buy the 2050 rocks glass?

[@brenster21]

I love your channel so much. Now to go see if I can buy rye at 1am.

[@KevinKos]

Haha love it! Thanks!

[@brenster21]

@@KevinKos old fashion is one of my favorite drinks. My favorite recipe was old grand dad bonded, with some rye, fresh maple syrup (darker), bitters. Burn some cinnamon into a chilled glass, then syrup whiskies, bitters, stirring pour in the glass serve with orange garnish, burnt cinnamon. I can't wait to try the original. Never thought that earlier cocktail would be made with rye, but it makes sense.

[@saxophoto]

🐻 great stuff

[@KevinKos]

Thank you. Cheers! 🥂

[@DarrellSCady]

🧸 Did I miss the link for those gold-rimmed glasses near the start of the video?

[@toddavis8151]

I tend to use a fair bit more sugar syrup or sometimes maple syrup, but the only person I’m trying to impress is myself and I like big bold flavours

[@KevinKos]

Sounds like you have a sweet tooth. 😉 But I'm glad you found a way to make what you like best, cheers!

[@GabrielGuillenVandakar]

100% both these garnishes need a video, maybe do 3 garnishes in one? I’d watch that whole thing thrice 🤙

[@KevinKos]

I'll make sure to cover everything in detail, cheers!

[@kyleschwendiman706]

I would love to see an episode about using tinctures to flavor syrups!

[@KevinKos]

Tune in and get ready! The episode might drop soon! 😉

[@rojorojo2509]

Beautiful glass in the 1806 version, is it Moser?

[@jadegecko]

The midcentury feels like the period equivalent of an Applebee's cocktail also liber's raspberry is like jam, it's incredible

[@ellyam991]

@@jadegecko 😂

[@KevinKos]

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[@CVORealtor133]

Take a drink of your old fashioned every time he says “old fashioned”!

[@peterm7028]

Gummies! 🐻

[@observer1689]

I went back and forth deciding whether or not to post this comment, so here I am. No cocktail produced more debate, ranging from civilized to acrimonious, than the old-fashioned. What follows is part of this. Robert Simonson's book is a must for any connoisseur and/or cocktail historian. But he erred when criticizing the man who brought me to the true enjoyment of liquor: David Embury. Embury wrote "The Fine Art of Mixing Drinks" in 1948, not 1958 as stated by Simonson. The 1958 edition was an updated and revised version of the 1948 manual. Sadly, Mr Embury passed away shortly after the 1958 edition was published. Simonson quotes Embury (accurately) as claiming, "water either plain or charged, has no more place in an Old Fashioned than it has in a Manhattan or Martini." Simonson then applauds Embury for frankness. What followed is what annoyed me, but it should be mentioned that Embury noted the only reason water was ever used in a recipe for the Old Fashioned was to dissolve the sugar. Sugar syrup made in advance makes water unnecessary. Simonson continues but then he muddied the waters by offering fruit-laden "Old Fashioned DeLuxe. He then quotes Embury accurately but misleadingly and sets up his straw man argument. Embury: "My own opinion is that fruit flavors and liquors blend exquisitely and for a mid-afternoon or evening drink an Old Fashioned is greatly improved in its overall appeal by the judicious addition of a few fruits." Simonson does not approve, but I doubt he read the book. First Embury distinguishes between cocktails and other kinds of mixed alcoholic drinks. To make this brief, a cocktail, according to Embury is an aperitif. That is, it stimulates the appetite before a meal. Therefore not all mixed drinks are cocktails. In fact, he says there are only six basic cocktails and the Old Fashioned is one of them. But look at the original quote: " . . . for a MID-AFTERNOON or EVENING drink . . ." In other words, when it isn't being served as a cocktail it's OK to add fruits and even a little syrup. Where is the problem? Fruits do blend beautifully with American whiskies not so much with scotch. They blend much better with Irish than scotch. Embury contributed mightily to our enjoyment of fine liquors. It's a shame he didn't live to see the bourbon and overall whiskey Renaissance occurring today. He knew his stuff. And although we would consider some of his information on liquors to be dated, he was the first to teach us the differences between fine whiskies and slop. If anyone can find a 1958 edition of "The Fine Art of Mixing Drinks," I'd say grab it. A half-assed edition was published a few years ago but it contains errors and falls apart quickly. And the next time you sip an Old Fashioned, toast David Embury. He's responsible for a good bit of your enjoyment whether Mr. Simonson appreciates him or not.

[@amycross4077]

Angostura gummy bears?! Yes please!

[@CamoSnowman]

I love a good smokey mezcal old fashioned!

[@KevinKos]

Any special bitters or so you go with Angostura?

[@CamoSnowman]

@KevinKos Del Maguey Vida Mezcal and usually just Angostura, but I've had cacao bitters as well which was really good.

[@neatsipsandfancymixes]

🐻do you use your diy clear ice maker or commercially available any machine/product for your ice?

[@KevinKos]

As for the blocks, I make/cut by myself. For spears and spheres, I have a silicone mold.

[@MartinDoudoroffLLC]

I have thoughts! 🤣 That “Bogart’s” is a terrific choice for anything 19th Century you don’t want to taste Caribbean-best thing Bitter Truth has yet made. (Just treat any claims of accurately reverse-engineering Boker’s with some skepticism.) And while you have it, please find some good malt wine genever and make a Gin Cocktail with it. SUBLIME. Also, I think that old room temperature Whiskey Cocktail is underrated, particularly in the cooler months. Finally, that mid-century Old Fashioned would not have been made with those fancy cherries-you need the bleached nuclear-red kind that taste like almond syrup. Moreover, the vast quantity of those drinks were made with Canadian whisky or a blended American whiskey-nothing so distinguished as bonded Rittenhouse! When we Americans aim low, we aim for rock bottom.

[@KevinKos]

I agree, this bitters are amazing! Thank you for sharing! 🥂🥂

[@francescochiavetta9357]

Ok Kevin...but now How can i make the orange tule??😂😂

[@KevinKos]

Subscribe to Cocktail Time and wait for that episode 🫣😅🥃

[@BobAtchison]

🐻Bring on the 20 minute deep dive into angostura gummies and dried orange!

[@KevinKos]

Get your apron ready 😎🥃😉

[@josh678595]

I like how your video on its history DOESN'T bash the people of the time while ignoring its origins (stares at How to Drink)

[@KevinKos]

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[@TheVicelion]

eyo drop that gummy 🐻🐻 recipe!

[@BabaTova]

🐻 Delicious

[@KevinKos]

Thanks! Cheers! 🥂

[@Rakadis]

I abhor the use of emojis, but I do have a deep interest in the Old Fashioned. So I dedicate this comment to the algorithm.

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😂🎉🎉🐻🐻 I got you buddy

[@KevinKos]

You guys are the best! 😅🥃🥃

[@Rakadis]

@@candidginger3557 This is the reason we can't have nice things.

[@candidginger3557]

@@Rakadis if it helps get us a video of angostera gummy bears.... It kinda is. :'P

[@panaceiasuberes6464]

Would love to see a historically accurate Tuxedo video.

[@KevinKos]

Noted

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[@KevinKos]

The more the bearrier 😎😅

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🐻!

[@phloebs]

Now do the Improved Whiskey Cocktail

[@McRootbeer]

Nice gummy 🐻

[@KevinKos]

Thank you, it was yummy and gummy 😅🐻

[@texas66]

🐻🐻‍❄️🐨🐼 you didn't say which bear emoticon to drop so here's a quad, how many gummy bear flavors can you make? Cheers 🥃

[@KevinKos]

Haha thank you! I'll cover the gummy bears in a future episode, but I think it's also my duty (even if I'm not from Australia) to point out that the koala is a marsupial, not a bear. With that said, I also think that saying "koala bear" sounds better 😅🐨

[@CamoSnowman]

Wisconsin Old Fashioned are just weird. Most places I went to made them like this. 1. Tall glass with crsuhed ice. 2. Pick any alcohol but mainly bourbon or brandy 3. Muddle orange slice and marichino cherry to death with sugar and bitters. 4. Garnish with fruit, olives, pickled asparagus, etc. Saw someone getva brandy old fashioned with pickled asparagus and olives. So weird.

[@KevinKos]

That is wild! 😅

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The Modern Old Fashioned is good, but the future one is the bear-y best 🐻

[@Mr.Aportela]

Make the video!

[@ManInArea]

Apology accepted

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[@XNerinoX]

There are 2 types of people: those who like old fashion and those who lie.

[@KevinKos]

Or maybe those that haven't had a good one yet? 🤔🥃

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🐻🐻‍❄🧸 Is this too much ?

[@KevinKos]

It's never too much 😎🥃

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[@SteinGauslaaStrindhaug]

I never understood why so many cocktails have so much sugar in them. I once made a bottle of 2-1 simple syrup because so many recipes called for it; but I never felt the need to add any to any drink. If I every fancy my "old fashioned" (which I make with only bitters and spirit, and maybe one small ice cube in summer) I'd add one maraschino cherry which is very sweet on it's own, but then I probably want to dilute the sweetness with extra water. In general I tend to add stuff to a cocktail to reduce the sweetness whenever it contains sweet liqueurs rather than ever adding sugar. Maybe it's because I'm very sensitive to sweetness? EDIT: Or maybe it's because I don't tend to add ridiculous amounts of ice (if I even add any) that kills the flavour and makes things taste less sweet? (Melted ice cream and sorbet is disgustingly sweet because our sense of taste is impaired by cold, they add a lot of sugar to it.)

[@KevinKos]

You are right, when chilled, glucose looses "power" so that's why there is ussualy more sugar in blended drinks and less in the ones served hot.

[@observer1689]

Sugar in cocktails any cocktail or other mixed drinks, has its own history or probable history. During Prohibition, some seriously awful spirits could be found especially when it was difficult to find bootlegged Scotch or Canadian whiskies. To kill the awful flavor but still get an alcoholic "lick" sickeningly sweet drinks like "The Bees Knees" were invented. When Prohibition ended, well-aged American Whiskies weren't available yet (it takes 6 years to make a 6-year-old whiskey, and the practice continued while scotch and Canadian, neither of which is worth much in a cocktail, were used. Fruits and syrups were used to kill that taste as well. Old habits die hard. To make matters worse, distributors of scotch and Canadian marketed themselves as being of a higher quality than American whiskies to justify the higher prices brought on by import duties. They are not superior. They are different. American whisky, including my beloved bourbon, became associated with bums and people who couldn't afford good liquor. All of that has changed for the better and American whiskies are ranked among the top where they belong.

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TOO MUCH TALK , NOT ENOUGH MIXING !!!!!!!!!!!!

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It's 4 cocktails in episode! 🫣 But make sure to check out the 10 Limoncello Cocktails episode 😅

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