EICMA 2023: AJP PR7 4K

[@enduromotorradtouren]

The PR7 has always been a stunning bike. Pity about the missing dealership/spare parts... Seems it's easier for Mr. Pinto to develop a great bike than selling it ;-) Thanks for showing all the interesting little brands in your Milano coverage, Andre. Much appreciated, Günter/Nürnberg

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Thanks and yes. That's why I don't have one... I did try.

[@AA-wd2or]

Thank you for video!!! Black and gold one is gorgeous... interesting all look and stay same like last year, nothing new on PR7. Thank you again !

[@PeakMotorcycles]

You're welcome. And yes, it's been a while since any major changes to the PR7.

[@AA-wd2or]

@@PeakMotorcycles Thank you again for all videos from Milano!

[@brianq103]

The PR7 Gold Edition is pure sex! What a gorgeous motorcycle!

[@PeakMotorcycles]

It is.

[@williamrae9954]

£14k...must be gold plated? :0

[@ourspanishadventures]

The PR7 gold looks beautiful. This is a bike I've looked at but getting one here in Spain isn't easy and of course service and parts difficult.

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Yup, that's what put me off getting one in the UK, before the Kove came out.

[@tiagofigueiredo2529]

You can easily buy parts in Portugal. Is not that far. 😅

[@ourspanishadventures]

@@tiagofigueiredo2529 😀

[@jamesfairmind2247]

Thanks for all your effort in producing these videos. Without you there would be no English speaking content on the show at all. I wonder if there was also a 510 model on the AJP stand as they do make one, identical to the 310.

[@PeakMotorcycles]

I saw a few folks over there, but I'm delighted that all this work is finding an audience. As for the AJP510, I think I looked at everything they have. So either it wasn't there or I missed it. If the latter, you have my apologies.

[@nathanbanks7091]

I'm picking up a new PR7 next week. It was a challenge to find one in the US. The gold addition is HOT. Mine is a standard version, which is still an incredible bike. The Sachs suspension is really good. Not quite Ohlins level, but close enough for me.

[@AA-wd2or]

Original you get with bike are better for average person, Ohlins are stiff and made for racing

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Enjoy the new ride.

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Are they? I have an ohlins shock on my Ducati Scrambler, and it's sprung for my weight and the damping is set (though adjustable) for leisure riding. It's very plush indeed and certainly not hard. I also had Ohlins TTX on a 2014 Triumph Speed Triple 1050R and the ride on that was smoother than my 1200GS with electronic suspension. I suppose with any suspension, getting the right spring right and setup is key to making it work for you, how you want it.

[@AA-wd2or]

​​@@PeakMotorcyclesOn AJP PR7 these model of Ohlins give stiff response, of course is not like that in general with Ohlins, but on these bike if you are not agressive driver or ex enduro driver it will give you stiff feeling. So original suspension give you if you are average offroader much more pleasent experince.

[@Youtube_Globetrotter]

Was it a great bike?

[@IanSixbikes-by6ei]

Always liked the AJP and tried to buy one in 2022 ,but just couldn't find a dealer in UK who could supply me with one.

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Same. That's one of the reasons I ended up with the Kove.

[@mcdonaldslover52]

reliability is by far the most important feature in an adventure bike for me, i dont care if its heavy or slow, but there is nothing worse than riding out into the middle of nowhere and having bike problems. Sadly that means Japanese only for me when it comes to adventure motorcycles.

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Yup, that makes sense. Though even Japanese bikes used to be poor quality and unreliable... In the 1970's the worked out what to do and it's been great ever since.

[@davidmallia628]

​​@@PeakMotorcyclesseems lot of other manufacturers are developing the same way Japanese bikes progressed to be reliable as they are today. Manufacturers not realising this hard fact do so at their own risk of extinction. Also, manufacturers need to cater for different size riders, and reduce wet weight, top heaviness, also.

[@tiagofigueiredo2529]

AJP is a Portuguese brand and are made in Portugal. 🇵🇹 As with other brands, they don't make every single part of the bike, but it's built and assembled in Portugal. 👌

[@francescoporcari8597]

The engine has proved himself reliable for a long time, so far. This is a Husqvarna (bmw era) dual sport engine.

[@sarojjena9947]

Awesome.. . . .! Bring it to India

[@PeakMotorcycles]

And bring more of them to the UK! 🤣

[@axelfiraxa]

Btw, the gold edition comes with a Brembo clutch which is much lighter to pull than the standard Magura

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Thanks for that!

[@tiagofigueiredo2529]

AJP is a Portuguese brand and are made in Portugal. 🇵🇹 As with other brands, they don't make every single part of the bike, but it's built and assembled in Portugal. 👌

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Thanks

[@ogasi1798]

utterly gorgeous in gold n black - i would take kove over that any day though in fairness - is it just me that see ohlins on an off road bike and gets turned off immediately? The 310 is very nice too , be interesting to hear the way they operate over miles/maintenance etc

[@PeakMotorcycles]

It does look good. The engine is older tech than the Kove, and parts and support are a challenge.

[@slakk5093]

That looks mint 👌

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Can't beat a bit of Ohlins bling! 🤣 Those forks come at a price though...

[@user-sf2mh3er3f]

I want to have one so much but I'm from Mexico, do you know if there are plans to open the Mexican market?

[@PeakMotorcycles]

I'm sorry but I don't. Perhaps if you drop AJP a note they can tell you.

[@guillaume05ch]

I was at EICMA. I'm from EU. I saw the Kove 450 rally. But they only had the high version on the stand which is a pity and also no one to reply to specific questions. The bike does have it's flaws; the bashplate looks thin and very breakable, it is hard to place your feet on the gear lever due to the placement of the bashplate, the sitting position seems a bit odd and the engine lacks power. On the AJP stand, ppl could reply to all my questions, their both pr7 look tremendous, the engine is quite powerful, but it's hard to find a dealer close to me + the price is much higher than the Kove... It's a hard choice to make...

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Did you ask AJP when you could get one? I agree the Kove bash plate is thin, but it's actual carbon fibre, not plastic made to look like it. It is the same as what they put on the race bikes, though I think it's designed to crack and absorb the energy and crack on a big impact, and then be replaced, much like a helmet. I expect aftermarket bash guards will be out in due course. I've not noticed a problem with the position of the gear lever on mine yet. I have size 10.5UK/45EU feet but will try again next time I'm out on mine to see if I can do the same as what you found hard with the gear lever. Maybe it's a riding or foot position thing for you? Good luck with your choice. I would have a bought a PR7 a while ago if I could get one. I couldn't. That was the deciding factor for me.

[@guillaume05ch]

@@PeakMotorcycles Hi! AJP said I could get the standard model in mid January in Switzerland. Problem is I live ~400km from their closest official dealer...And knowing about their past customer service issues it doesn't help my decision^^ As for the Kove, the bashplate isn't the same as on their Rally competition version (at least the one they had shown at EICMA) . But yes some aftermarket ones will probably come out in the near future. That's also one good point from Kove, there is so much hype around it that aftermarket part will be made in numbers I feel. As of now, the bashplate is very near to the gear lever (which for me makes it not easy to slide my foot under the lever) and also very thin...don't know it this is understandable with my explanation^^ Looking forward to the development of this segement of the bike industry! Thanks for all the content and keep it up!

[@ruilima8752]

🇵🇹💪🏼

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Thanks

[@Ian-bq7gp]

A very under rated bike for real world servicing and durable design. I really hope they keep going and make their own engines. I prefer them to KTM and they seem a good tool to cross africa, a bit like the suzuki DR650.

[@Ian-bq7gp]

Husaberg were a brilliant bike that sadly went bust. Their story is amazing and their motors, gearboxes were very well designed, top quality and very reliable. I had no idea at the time. Maybe this new Triumph 250 dirt bike will be a great success but it seems KOVE have nailed it at £8k for a very good dirt bike around 450cc

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Yup, with a new engine and an improved supply chain and dealer network, they would be brilliant.

[@MrEtnorb]

This is an excellent coverage of the sort of bikes I like. I guess the mainstream journos are drooling over the twins elsewhere. Keep up the good work. PIty we are unlikely to see any of these bikes in Australia. AJP deliver a lot but they have never gone anywhere here while old shitboxes like the DR650/DRZ400 etc carried on for well past their use by dates.

[@slakk5093]

It’s because of the stalling and fuelling problems that made no one want them here in Aus. The few ex-owners I’ve met said they had lots of problems with fuelling and stalling and sold them because of that

[@PeakMotorcycles]

We've not had the DR650/DRZ400 for years... shame really as other than the CRF250L/300's we haven't had many (any?) other trail bikes for a while. No KLX or WR250R's in the UK for more than 10 years. A few like the Voge 300 Rally are coming through now though which can only be a good thing.

[@MrEtnorb]

@@slakk5093 I had 3 DRs and never had fueling problems although I did install pumper carbs on 2 of them to assist in more power with the usual other changes. I also owned a DRZ with no problems. The main problem with the DR was terrible suspension.

[@MrEtnorb]

@@PeakMotorcycles The reason why we had all those ancient bikes is because we are a backwater in the western world and still have no fuel standards. That is why we don’t get the latest electric vehicles or many efficient petrol models.

[@slakk5093]

@@MrEtnorb I was taking about the PR7 not the dr650. Dr650 and drz400 are reliable as can be, I’ve owned both myself and were great bikes

[@barebonesmc]

nice one, im probab;y one of the few that wishes theyd not used ohlins, it would be nice to see some Bitubo or Yavugar suspension rather than the ever present ohlins, i wish more people realised ohlins are just not as good as some of the others. Wilbers, Yacugar and Bitubo are all way better than the bling fest that ohlins are. i just wish the PR7 had a version that would take a passenger, but then they would have the whole problem of EU rules and ABS compliance, and for a small company making bikes by hand it just costs far too much cheers again Andre

[@PeakMotorcycles]

I guess they'll do what they think they can sell (and in some cases, what they can get...)

[@barebonesmc]

@@PeakMotorcycles exactly, everyone knows Ohlins and too many just think they are the best, but there are far better, but to be honest, few customers know how to set them up properly anyway, and only a few of them get someone good to help. suspension set up is another one of those black arts lol, like carb tuning 🙂 The ohlins will push the price up for them and give them bigger profits than paying for Bitubo etc and not getting the Kudos of some gold bling lol

[@VapidUsername]

I'm going to call those things on the 310 that make it easy to remove the headlight Off Road Zip Ties

[@PeakMotorcycles]

That'll do. Silent zip ties perhaps?

[@cyclonus01]

6 month warranty on these in the states and probably $13k out the door. Doesn't seem worth it.

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Do you see many of them around in the US? Supply of new bikes has been pretty limited of late in the UK.

[@cyclonus01]

@PeakMotorcycles no way they are rare as hell basically a unicorn if you saw one.

[@ezsteel78]

Wait, is the SPR250 road legal? I see blinkers and plate bracket.

[@PeakMotorcycles]

I'm sure it can be road registered in some markets. You register pretty much anything in the UK as long as it meets the minimum requirements and this is quite straightforward for enduro bikes.

[@stevesanelli90]

I’m sorry for being closed minded, but who is AJP? Where is it made?

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Portugal. ajpmotos.com/

[@CarlosRibeiro-rz5dg]

I had a small AJP50 around 2000,amazing the evolution of the brand,and they look very good.I’m in!

[@johnclowes3502]

Is poor people over here in OZ will probably never see one of these

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Curse that lack of ABS...

[@giuliobuccini208]

They should use this bike as base for a mini-adventure, IMO. Soon the new Hima, the 450 MT and the Kove will eat them otherwise.

[@PeakMotorcycles]

It already is. They are hard to find though, especially after supply chain problems caused by Covid.

[@inrptn]

I really like what they tried to do with the PR7, but to me they never got it quite right and now that there's bikes like the Kove 450, Hima 452, and CFmoto 450 I don't see much appeal to it anymore.

[@AA-wd2or]

You are right , they try to expend market , but not factory ..so they have no time to do new stuff on bike, just build them and send to customers. In my EU country you must pre order and pre pay PR7 in full 2 yeras before you get one..so now most will buy new Chinese options like Kove. Also price for PR7 is 11.500eur for KOVE 800x 9500.eur

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Yup. I do think the Kove 800x will shake things up a lot.

[@AA-wd2or]

@@PeakMotorcycles yes 800X rally with 165 kg dry...i onlly don't know service interval for 800X rally

[@axelfiraxa]

Ive seen the Kove and it is a shitbox by comparison. The Kove 450 looks second hand in person... it has a nice face but the rest of it screams cheap. The PR7 looks frugal but not cheap

[@PeakMotorcycles]

@@axelfiraxaeach to their own, but to me, the components, fastenings and build quality on the Kove is pretty good. Parts supply seems good also. I do like the PR7, but getting one in the UK is difficult. There are also many reports from PR7 owners of faults and niggles that took ages to fix or weren’t fixed. If I could have purchased a PR7, I would have. May I ask if you own a PR7? Or have owned one in the past?

[@FreedomBaba]

Mine was unreliable. Support was terrible. A great disappointment. It's the only motorcycle I've sold because of those reasons. Shame.

[@PeakMotorcycles]

I've heard a few such stories, also quite a few folks that rate them, but I guess those are the two polar opposites...

[@jamesfairmind2247]

My experience too sadly and zero support from the factory who just don't give a damn about after sales support.

[@euricosousateixeira6821]

Made in Europe 🙏👌

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Yup. When they can get the parts.

[@ERUtheWINDRIDER]

Still no abs on PR7

[@MrEtnorb]

Unless a bike is for competition in Australia ie KTM 450/500 etc it must have ABS. If the PR7 doesn’t have ABS I assume it can’t be sold here now. I imagine it would be in the “DR650” category so that rules it out.

[@PeakMotorcycles]

I'm afraid not.

[@bucklrya]

​@@MrEtnorbthey're for sale in oz.. Eligible for full road reg. Google it

[@XLV750RD01]

I see the seat being fubar'd by petrol.

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Not sure. I guess there would be reports of that on the forums if it was a problem.