Eiki Fanon Vs Canon - [ Touhou ]

[@Aranmath]

Touhou fans when they have to stick to the canon material (they can't say Meiling is lazy or Eiki is a shortstack)

[@Surgaw1]

Well, being Honest is good ain't it?

[@Aranmath]

@@Surgaw1 All of these fanon characteristics were funny, but only at the very beginning. Meiling is a badass martial artist who CAN and WILL kick your ass, yet people treat her as a useless sack of shit. Cirno being "the smartest" or "the strongest" pisses me off to no end in sight. Yuyuko being a gluttonous fuck is old. Shortstack Eiki is an insult. And many more that I don't feel like mentioning. (Not so) honorable mentions to the men in hentai doujins, because they can literally hypnotize or trick Touhou girls into doing sexual stuff, when, in reality, the girls have the ability to kill the fat bastards and tear their insides apart INSTANTLY.

[@Orteiga]

@@Aranmath touhou got as big as it is by those "stupid fan characteristics". it used to be like 95% fanon, 5% canon. i dont know how much more canon there is these days, and frankly i dont care. What i always loved about the franchise is that everyone got their own little versoin of gensokyo as their headcanon and thats that. complaining about a lack of sensable plot in a thinbook is akin to complaining about lack of acurate newtonian physics in a science fantasy novel. get over yourself.

[@Bunnynumber276]

@@Aranmath yep no way those guys can beat the girls dude also im not very smart or informative with touhou since i skip every dialogue doesn't read any of the "books ,but i think the girls resisted the insanity or something from the fake moon? In imperishable night pls don't roast me i dont have a good memory

[@Aranmath]

@@Orteiga Everyone can have their own headcanon, yes, but when they're passing shit as the utmost truth and as canon, that's where I draw the line. Let me give you an example, Koishi. In canon, Koishi is just a lonely girl that wants someone to play with. What did the fanon do? Turn her into a murderer with KKHTA. If it was just a little thought on a random someone's mind, I could forgive that, but it got so popular, people now think Koishi being a murderer is canon, when it's not. They literally changed CANON MATERIAL (although sometimes indirectly) because they felt like their headcanons were better, or just because people popularized shit for some ungodly reason. Yuyuko being slightly gluttonous IS mentioned in the canon, but fans basically turned it into Kirby levels of hunger. You and the other people who deny that the fanon is becoming cancerous with how they portray characters, assuming that "what they think the character does is what actually happens in the series" are the problem here. Get over yourself.

[@fukudacal]

i love how the judgement stick thing is oversized for fanon eiki

[@Overlord69]

Overcompensation ftw

[@seratarsybagusibrahim5018]

DANZAI!!!

[@Rabbotic]

Tbh, I do find funny and cute the dynamic between short Eiki and tall Komachi, but canon Eiki is badass af

[@lunaPrism]

I find the canon "non-short" Eiki cuter imo

[@changvasejarik62]

Agreed I think it’s even better in the M1 series.

[@perijellyfish]

@@lunaPrismsame

[@StarDDDude]

Eiki will forever be burned in my head as a tall appearing woman Not because she's actually tall (she's just average it seems), but because her role should be extremely intimidating if you are going to the afterlife

[@DarkSymphony777]

i've heard people say she's taller than komachi which i don't understand

[@Auqi]

@@DarkSymphony777 ofc, if u saw in reimu ending, u will see eiki are taller than komachi

[@DarkSymphony777]

@@Auqi ohhhhhh thanks

[@anonyme4881]

In either : her touhou 9 bio, one of the official Zun book grimoire of marisa or History of gensokyo (cant remember the exact name) Eiki is stated to be "Intimidatingly tall" Thats not an exact size, but at least we know its so tall people find it scary

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

@@anonyme4881given her portrait, guess that means she’s also intimidatingly broad shouldered,making her look even bigger

[@DeltaOdyssey]

I know this is a meme, but this unironically says a lot about the touhou community.

[@sarukahntomii]

Why the ending with Reisen is quite relatable

[@gorg9928]

she is the type of person who wants you to be a better person to achieve happiness, not a dwarf who is just going to bother everyone with lectures. But also a tall cute girl.

[@oranjaglad8648]

To be honest, I never liked “midget” Eiki, especially considering Eiki’s responsible personality in canon. Reducing her to a spoiled brat is just stupid.

[@Surgaw1]

"Must fulfill my fetishes" fandom said.

[@CombineWatermelon]

Lecturers like her ARE spoiled brats (unless they agree with me 100% because I'm right about everything unironically)

[@JohnSmith-fq3rg]

@@Surgaw1 Hey it's a pretty good fetish, and making her smaller to contrast angry manlet incel rage having petanko eiki with lazy cow tits komachi is fun

[@science_man3425]

I like the interpretation that she's only responsible while working, and that she's a complete bum in her free time and her life is just a fucking mess of dealing with incompetent people and hecatia or getting drunk in the mess that's her bedroom

[@elgatochurro]

I just love her being short

[@RockyPixel]

I’m with the Cr1tikal voice on the Revengance Status memes. It honestly takes more effort to find the animations than to make the meme.

[@ayylmao02]

It’s all fine till someone think fanon material is canon. If you are in the community then you should at least know how to distinguish canon and fanon.

[@SaintCharlos]

_When I was like 10/11 (2011/2012) I used to hate Sakuya because I thought she was too cruel with Meiling and her servants, that's how much the fandom butchered her_

[@Ace-Intervention]

@@SaintCharlos good thing she’s actually good friends with Meiling and not mean

[@HyperVanilo]

"Stop gatekeeping, you can be a Touhou fan without learning the lore."

[@muzuchama]

Reisen being based explaining how mgr fans are the unfunniest things this decade

[@jvts8916]

I'd have to disagree and call them the *second* unfunniest things of the decade. The first would be slander memes, which have the most accurate rename they could possibly have because they're as funny as the actual definition of the word

[@muzuchama]

@@jvts8916 that's understandable

[@BergmitetheBlueandPointy0712]

Especially seeing how unfair they can be in comparison memes.

[@Ayahuasca98]

It’s sad cuz metal gear slaps and mgr was the first metal gear game I played way back when it dropped. The fans of mgr have always been unfunny though, this wasn’t just an occurrence that happened in 2021

[@seancatacombs]

She's about as tall as Komachi and Komachi is classified as a tall character in SWR. ZUN just drew her weird and her role in the lore means she rarely gets placed near other characters for reference in secondary works.

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

Guess that means she has broad shoulders then

[@TarosTheVoid]

When I saw in MoP that Eiki was shorter than Aya, this really felt off bc I could've sworn Eiki was tall. Kinda glad this video popped up my feed bc this was definitely a topic to think about.

[@PaukKsta]

Touhou fans when they turn everyone into childern:

[@Pokemaster-wg9gx]

We all know Touhou Lostword is totally gonna add little Eiki right? I’m honestly surprised its taking so long with how many other little versions they have lel

[@justsomesimplenuclearbirbs4313]

There's a reason why I tend to steer clear from some fanworks. Not all of them are bad, but the ones that deviate so far away from canon are the ones that tend to either piss me off or confuse the ever living daylight out of me. Like for example, nearly every fanon version of Flandre is cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs beyond recognition and portrayed as a psychotic murderer who's locked up in the SDM's basement when in reality, she's just an immortal child who doesn't know how to interact with other people and can't really be locked up to begin with given the fact she's a *really* powerful vampire and is actually living her best life in the SDM's basement where she's supposedly locked up. She's just inexperienced and a bit naive, not a freaking murderer who got sealed away.

[@billybob-ts2rt]

she also chooses not to break out of the basement, which she could easily do, afaik

[@HyperVanilo]

​​@@billybob-ts2rt OP already explained that Flandre is an introvert not a prisoner and you still think she is one

[@billybob-ts2rt]

@@HyperVanilo On the contrary, I'm agreeing with OP, I was simply adding on the fact that she could leave whenever, but doesnt because she doesnt need to, not that she isnt allowed to

[@KatzRool]

naw you can't make fun of the bait and switch memes, 90% of potential viewers will be upset

[@jvts8916]

Is it even bait and switch of the title spoils the twist (and therefore, the punchline)?

[@ItsSillyNichii]

The fanon one is like: * gets angry with everything *

[@thebigg4156]

Eiki is still cute tho

[@rain28980]

Memories of phantasm did her dirty

[@veto_5762]

Tbh i never see her as a short-sack or spoiled brat, in my head canon Eiki is a killing machine able to send you to the shadow realm if she wants to while constantly screaming "JUSTICE!" the whole time

[@friezascarlet7822]

I just saw it as a vegeta & Nappa situation where as Komachi was the taller one and eiki was the shorter one but the wayyyy stronger one. But yeah I don’t get the whole bratty attitude thing

[@ironmaster6496]

I dont know its origin either but im pretty sure Memories of Phantasm didn't help at all

[@aether-gaming.]

I have no doubt that Komachi is still taller than Eiki, but that's primarily because I believe Komachi is quite tall and not at all because Eiki is short.

[@MelCMlol]

0:19 I seen that eirin art A LOT

[@BergmitetheBlueandPointy0712]

I suppose Eiki shouldn’t be a shortstack, because if she is, there’s no way anyone will take her seriously.

[@jvts8916]

Her Touhou 18 card that makes her seem like the kind of person to accept briberies probably won't help her image in the slightest. For context, you pay a toll to cross the Sanzu River, but the money you have will not match the amount you had in life because it's not determined by material wealth. The card itself is designed by Chimata and *is* affected by the money you collect.

[@Pokemaster-wg9gx]

Something something old tradition about the money you have in the afterlife being related to your good and bad deeds in lel

[@roberthasudungan1546]

The money symbolizes how many people prayed for your soul and how many people would miss you after you died.

[@lpfan4491]

​@@roberthasudungan1546 Which is conceptually funny since that means being a manipulator who worms themselves into the lives of others gives you a lot of €€€ but being a great selfless person in the shadows makes you broke af.

[@satoyuyu]

honestly, fanon eiki always appeared in Touhou Pixiv Community. Many Japanese artists drew her and with weirdy things smh

[@ringoffire6665]

I hate how fanon tries to make Eiki a loli, because Touhou doesn't have enough damn loli's...

[@divadiva1968]

Not all Touhou girls is Loli, it because ZUN doesn't know how to draw Adult, even male/guy

[@redactedgamersgd1788]

​@@divadiva1968 or atleast barely know how considering the lunar capital guards are males, and then theres Rinnosuke

[@ThatSplatoonTouhouGuy]

There'll never be enough lоlis.

[@divadiva1968]

@@redactedgamersgd1788 Zun ain't draw them

[@ponikoTV]

What about rumia?

[@unfunniestman]

0:22 man, i'm glad those memes eventually died and mgr fell to obscurity again

[@CsGalaxyID]

Tbh, I found fanon Eiki to be hilarious (Because of how absurd it is) but with that aside, I do like canon Eiki more because you know, she is the *judge of the dead* afterall

[@Dreigonix]

Eiki Shiki is one of the most powerful characters in the series. She’s frighteningly calm and imposing, and the only one able to confront the heroes for their own evil deeds. She’s the closest thing in the series to YHWH. What she is _not_ is an ineffectual, bitchy brat motivated above all else by BREAST ENVY. WHAT THE FUCK, TOUHOU FANDOM. Really, I blame IOSYS for this. I will never forgive them for making Convictor Yamaxanadu.

[@KoishiLS]

jokes on u im into both

I'm fine with short Eiki. I'm not fine with the attitude give her though. If she was short but had her actual personality, we could get a good laugh out of her by calling her fun sized.

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

She’s Fumo

[@kagechu2005BISVG]

The red-eyed moon rabbit of insanity is going insane

[@somechupacabrawithinternet8866]

this lady looks like an awesome person (the canon one not the brat one)

[@SaintCharlos]

0:35 _*GUNSHOT"_ _Eiki: _*_still alive_*_ Well... It was worth a try, I guess. (flies away)_ _Fanon Reisen: Wait... What are you, bruh? Yamas can't die?_

[@volofant]

Fanon Eiki: *ANGY LOLI NOISES* Canon Eiki: Ara ara~ Tbh, the canon Eiki scares me more. Calm, mature and firm to the point you will fear what would happen if you struck a nerve.

[@Keineismyfavorite]

I need to remember that canon eiki is stern but is kind at the same time while fanon eiki is harsh and a midget

[@BergmitetheBlueandPointy0712]

0:28 And I guess she like those soulless bait and switch memes, purely because it featured MGR and one of their famous boss music. 🤔 And you know how absolutely popular they are. MGR is pretty much the Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure of video games, it creates so many memes and gags.

[@Alexs23743]

"Court is now in session! Parties this time around are the only judge of Gensokyo's only court vs. the same judge with a Napoleon complex! Please step forward." -Komachi Onozuka, maybe xD

[@ShaddySoldier]

Both are cute love them

[@wisegalaxy4809]

The fanon shiki version is small but strict at the same time than the Canon on

[@Lemuel928]

They’re the same but big in common.

[@hesiod_delta9209]

Finally someone calls out those repetitive lewd clips cut to memed-on footage. I won't fall for the spicy bait when it literally says "Rvengence status" in the title, and even if I do fall for it, I won't find it funny.

[@Haidosuketo1]

facts

[@cirnosnumberfan6449]

I see Eiki as average, not short nor tall, kind of Reimu.

[@ruikirisame1744]

same Reisen.. same... (let the mdie pls)

[@Kold-Kanadian]

We Love Our Short Queen

[@kenrichgumanid9235]

I love and hate the internet.

[@AtZa.07]

People, I got oni-rolled

[@AspergerPlays]

That's XE3G

[@farisazka2568]

Really i thought shiki height is reimu chest

[@joaquinpalillo]

Thanks god!

[@Ciurk]

make her twice the canon height

[@InvidiousIgnoramus]

I just find it funny you used a PNG of a S&W CSX, and not something most people would recognize.

[@somechupacabrawithinternet8866]

update: i have apologized to eiki and now she's is helping me fix my life.. guess she's right in the end

[@loaduscoolclipz5505]

this is the most based comment section

[@NotFenriz]

I kinda want a combination of both F/Canon personalities

[@Another-Distortion]

What is Eiki official height?

[@Aranmath]

Heights are pretty damn inconsistent in the Touhou series but she's mentioned to be an average height for japanese women.

[@Pokemaster-wg9gx]

@@Aranmath so still kinda short but not ridiculously so lel

[@divadiva1968]

Shes tall than Komachi

[@Another-Distortion]

@@divadiva1968 Sheesh Eiki is a monster… Or Komachi is kinda average height then

[@divadiva1968]

@@Another-Distortion komachi is average If i say so...

[@esztervarga5431]

I am curious about what is the difference between canon Suwako and fandon Suwako?

[@dyingscarlet]

Memeulous from touhou

[@Olele_Olala-g]

how can eiki dies ? like , she is the one who judge dead people. Who gonna judge her then ?

[@agitpolat1061]

Eiki's just the Yama in charge of Gensokyo specifically. She's not the only one doing that Job, she's just the only one we know of. IIRC there's like 10 of them in total.

[@Olele_Olala-g]

@@agitpolat1061 thanks for the info

[@Elmithian]

I never considered her a midget, just somewhat short (like around 155 or so?)

[@EEErmine]

I hc eiki to have a british accent

[@dungeonmaster0656]

Both are good

[@Unclaimed_Username]

finally someone says it: bait and switch memes aren't funny. They're soulless at best and annoying almost all of the time.

[@DarkAdonisVyers]

Still flat, though.

[@oscara1573]

Idk canon eiki is cool but midget eiki is better

[@susangoaway]

This is wrong. Fanon Eiki is flat, not short. This is the first time I see short.