Either You See It or You Don't - It Happens Instantly - J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm | Black Screen

00:00 start
24:08 why we don't see it
32:56 we still can't let go
50:46 'acquiring' insight is not the point
56:37 listen without resistance
1:05:45 when you meet the immovable
In their fourth discussion, J. Krishnamurti and David Bohm continue their talk on the nature of thought and its time-bound pattern. Together they unravel the proposition that immediate insight into this pattern ends psychological time and breaks the pattern. Ending the 'me', the ego, 'the self' - whichever label you prefer to call it - occurs instantly; Awakening is not a process of becoming, which implies time, and in turn will just bring the mind back into the rat-race that causes so much pain, violence, suffering, and all the rest of it.
Clear your mind and get yourself comfortable, and simply listen, without judgement or predisposition, as two of the greatest minds of the 20th century provide a roadmap to instant awakening. Don't wait to 'become' better, it happens instantly if you simply See it. #krishnamurti
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[@grahaminglis4242]

Is the blockage that prevents seeing psychological illusions as toxic actually the persuasive effect of the society’s ‘norms’ that are ingrained into the masses by the unquestioning of intellectual elites? Part of the holding nature of norms is that should one reject or deny the compulsion to accept blindly the underlying authoritarian influences, one would risk being labeled as being recalcitrant or stupid or crazy or actually being insane. So the put-down factor is a powerful disincentive to even lightly question these norms that carry the power of belief and truth, implicitly. All of these norms are reinforced over and over consciously and unconsciously, unwittingly because it’s the price that is paid to be a ‘good’ contributing citizen which is taken for granted. I’d rather be regarded as good than risk its alternatives. The question is: should I run with the crowd or stand alone while living in the same vicinity as the rest of the mob?

[@jjMavani]

It’s a matter of Grasping without words and their meanings and that makes it more difficult becoz we are conditioned with words and it’s meanings 🥹🥹🥹❤️🙏

[@Michael_X313]

One has to experience both love and hate to such an extreme that it breaks the ego open and allows minds eye to find whatever answer to whatever curiosity the ego was driven there by.

[@mannykrag3486]

If you don't ask a question you don't need an answer

[@DivineSource444]

The answer is in the question.

[@evanwilliamson3602]

I have to be very careful on what I say, for what I say declares I am not saying anything. However, it’s either experienced or it isn’t. Simple as that.

[@rmrmrmrm4212]

🥺🥺😭oh my God

[@ocofficial5481]

relax the attention!!!!

[@goodtimes9638]

1:15:53

[@tomato1040]

On getting to the Other SIDE=mc2 traversing the ocean 🌊 of Words📚of our📖 thoughts without a⛵boat, if WE=mc2 can't👣 walk🚶on water💦, WE=mc2 can🏊swim👙, not🧠thinking💭from🎓📜"What if I🎯AM🤔now🙁sinking"🛟😂!

[@inspiringmedia3716]

Wtf

[@db8799]

When you see something "else" you are actually seeing PURE AWARENESS wearing a mask..

[@nadadenadax4903]

How do you know that? 🤔

[@db8799]

NON-DUALITY

[@nadadenadax4903]

@@db8799 but when you see awareness, it is dual, you and awareness

[@db8799]

RIGHT ...SUBJECT/OBJECT CAN ONLY BE RESOLVED IN DREAMLESS SLEEP.

[@nadadenadax4903]

@@db8799 where is awareness in deep sleep? That's why awareness isn't "it". Awareness comes and goes.

[@UjjwalKumar-ev1hp]

What he is saying is practically impossible if you live according to j krishnamurthi philosophy u will be going to exploit everyday

[@sifatibnmorshed514]

I wonder Only a Rich Guy can Live like that thou it is Not Recommend.

[@ameygade1977]

Yes it works only if everyone transforms at the same time but also it depends on what is important to you, the materialistic life or the wisdom of life

[@UjjwalKumar-ev1hp]

Human being is born selfish with competition jealous and krishnamurthi saying is something creating more conflict with human body that's why when I follow krishnamurthi teaching I try 100 time but everytime I failed this show that body is not interested in any kind of philosophy body has its own intelligence

[@ameygade1977]

@@UjjwalKumar-ev1hp nope ! JK is not asking anyone to just transform, he just says “please observe” . He is not asking to stop being jealous but is asking to observe why there is jealousy and we will get our answers

[@UjjwalKumar-ev1hp]

Moment you see or observe it created division or conflict with body bw internal or external bcoz anything that is happening inside the body can never be wrong whole book can be wrong but body can never be wrong

[@HenrynHall45]

Am I the first person to think Krishnamurti was overrated? And possibly a little tiresome?

[@jkm3297]

I don’t find it that way at all. Beauty of this consciousness I suppose

[@nikethannikethan6997]

He is truly enlightened person

[@premjitsarangi4960]

I find him the most original thinker of the modern era. Nobody, no religion has explained the nature of existence the way he does. In a rational, nonprescriptive manner.

[@PuBearsticks]

Definitely not. I happen to love his thoughts and his determination to not settle on ideas. But he isn't for everyone

[@user-dk8dn9sp6s]

Yes. If 'tiresome' is the emotion you summon, you're not listening. Good luck, my dude.