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EL34 vs 6L6 - Victory V40 The Duchess

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Bakis Productions

Bakis Productions

Күн бұрын

Around November 2014, I received my Victory V40 tube amp with JJ EL34 power tubes on. After a year and a half of guitar playing at home, I 've decided to try 6L6s (TAD RT812 TUBES 6L6WGC).
I wanted to find out if there is any difference between those tubes while using the particular amp.
I think that reamping is the right recording technique for such comparisons. That's why in this video you actually see twice the exact same guitar playing. I captured my guitar signal with Radial J48 DI Box and filmed it (you can see that the amp is off on this video) and later I sent my signal through a Radial JCR (reverse DI box) to the amp and recorded it.
I use two microphones (mid-side technique) for this amp, because it sounds more natural to me and I love the stereo image (especially when headphones are used)
Except for a slight Bus Compressor, there was no other effect or EQ applied.
The difference I found, in terms of loudness, is that I had to boost 4dB in post-production for 6L6s to reach EL34s' level.
In terms of tone, to be honest, I find no difference at all..!!
What do you think? Can you hear any difference?
..more of my projects can be found here:
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You can download the wav files here:
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Gear Used:
- Victory V40 guitar amp
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- Shitty but good sounding Custom Stratocaster (goeldo parts assembled) with Häussel Pickups
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- Voodoo Lab Superfuzz Pedal
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- Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 audio interface
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- Cascade Fat Head II ribbon mic
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- Neumann TLM 102 condenser mic
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- Radial J48 DI box
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- Radial Reamp JCR
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@ehoc42
@ehoc42 7 жыл бұрын
i was so intrigued by your tasty playing that I forgot to pay attention to the tonal differences haha
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 7 жыл бұрын
hahaha.. thanks ehoc42!! =)
@JV8901
@JV8901 6 жыл бұрын
Literally the same happened to me.
@kyleboren7372
@kyleboren7372 4 жыл бұрын
I had to watch it twice for that same reason
@Trumpisdumb
@Trumpisdumb 4 жыл бұрын
I, too, was mesmerized by the tasty playing.
@bigdecodeco
@bigdecodeco 6 жыл бұрын
I prefer the EL34’s myself, which is what I have in my own V40 luckily. Beautiful playing, I could listen to you all day
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 6 жыл бұрын
thank you very much =)
@glyn50
@glyn50 5 жыл бұрын
Great demo. I could hear a sound difference in as much as in my opinion, the 6L6 had a more pleasant drive characteristic but the EL34 sounded more pleasant played clean. Cheers, Glyn.
@arturoamador8367
@arturoamador8367 3 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly found the el34s to sound better through my speakers. Thanks for the comparison!
@kostas-flou
@kostas-flou 8 жыл бұрын
Bravo Bakis! Very impressive video both content-wise and videography-wise alike.
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 8 жыл бұрын
Ευχαριστώ Φλου.. ;-)
@dannyhullihen966
@dannyhullihen966 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful playing. Personally speaking, I couldn't tell much difference between the EL34's and the 6L6;s Amp and guitar sounds fantastic!
@jeffbeck6501
@jeffbeck6501 6 жыл бұрын
gosh dang. That's the best sounding amp i have ever heard in my life on the clean channel. But you have to subtract for the amazing hands playing that. I wished we could invest in youtube channels. This guy can really play. Perfectly.
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 6 жыл бұрын
Jeff Beck thank you very much mate! Very kind. You aren't the real Jeff Beck, are you? :-P
@AlexanderSchwend
@AlexanderSchwend 5 ай бұрын
Same as the rest of comments, your playing is stunning and captivating. Hearing with headphones the difference is minimal. Seems to be that the difference produced by swaping the speakers is the most significant one. Greetings.
@Delboydunno
@Delboydunno 3 жыл бұрын
To me the 6l6’s had more spank and more presence/ mids. To me the el34’s sounded more “round” and a little warmer.
@martinskanal
@martinskanal Жыл бұрын
I heard pretty much no differences between the EL34s and the 6L6s when played clead.. very surprised!! With crunch I actually slightly preferred the 6L6s (which also kinda surprised me), the difference was veery subtle, though! Beautiful playing BTW, really musical stuff, excellent phrasing.. I thoroughly enjoyed that!!
@snooze0023
@snooze0023 7 жыл бұрын
They both sound sublime.
@shredgd5
@shredgd5 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic and very scientific demo! The difference are subtle and you can only get them listening with high quality headphones or speakers. The EL34 have *slightly* more mids and a little softer sounding, which make the 6L6 by contrast seem to have a little bit more presence and *harder* (under your fingers) sounding.
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 6 жыл бұрын
shredgd5 hahaha.. I would prefer the term "accurate" (if it really is) than scientific, but thank you very much!! =)
@davidsommerville2213
@davidsommerville2213 4 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t hear a discernible difference. However, I did hear some really terrific guitar playing.
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 4 жыл бұрын
And that's a super kind message! Thank you mate =)
@sohar146
@sohar146 4 жыл бұрын
when someone plays as good as this guy, tubedifferences are forgotten
@sohar146
@sohar146 4 жыл бұрын
all in all small difference. both are good tubes, they make the first stage loud isn't it ?
@dm7066
@dm7066 6 жыл бұрын
Good god man. I could listen to you play all day, that style is fantastic.
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 6 жыл бұрын
D M really flattering! Thanks =)
@davidsommerville2213
@davidsommerville2213 4 жыл бұрын
I’m picking mine up tomorrow. I’m a Strat and Tele player, and god I hope to sound this good.
@shckltnebay
@shckltnebay 3 жыл бұрын
???
@seanconnorguitar5972
@seanconnorguitar5972 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, exactly what I was after. For me, the difference is vast. EL34s (strangely) give so much more clarity and sounds glorious! Just sounds like something’s missing from the 6L6 sound. Just personal preference. Great playing though! 👍
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 6 жыл бұрын
Sean Connor Guitar Thank you!! =)
@Olegstuff21986
@Olegstuff21986 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent tone and guitar playing! Thanks for the demo. The EL34 sounded a bit warmer to me, personally.
@samlidippos
@samlidippos 6 жыл бұрын
man! what a gr8 vid! very detailed, and your sound is from another planet! phenomenal guitarist!!!
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 6 жыл бұрын
samlidippos χαχαχα.. τι παπάρας που είσαι ρε Φίλιππε!
@ed1978ed
@ed1978ed 5 жыл бұрын
The main reason to like this video is your playing, man :) Great!
@kyleboren7372
@kyleboren7372 4 жыл бұрын
I love your playing style and I just wish I can be that good some day... Keep it up man, great sound!
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 4 жыл бұрын
This is so kind of you. Thank you mate =)
@ehoc42
@ehoc42 4 жыл бұрын
EL34s were have slightly more presence and tighter low end. I currently have 6L6's in mine...need to try EL34s!
@TheDarinAmes
@TheDarinAmes 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! I just started looking at the V40 and V40 Deluxe and was trying to find exactly what you demonstrated. Great playing, Man! I think for my my playing style and guitars I use (Gretsch Duo Jets), I think the EL34s are the way to go. Very much appreciated!
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 5 жыл бұрын
I am glad you've found this video helpful. Although, I have to point out that there is difference between EL34 and 6L6 on the V40. The procedure I used doesn't show the difference as I've said in previous comments. I left the volume and gain knobs at the same position. That caused 4dB difference. In a real life situation, you would raise the master volume with 6L6s to recover this 4dB and attain the same sound volume. So let's just say that we could have the same sound level with EL34 master volume set at 11 o'clock and 6L6s at 12 o'clock. In this scenario you absolutely can hear the difference. But that should be another video ;-) So, the best thing for you, I think is the simplest. Find a nice dealer and try both amps, or both tubes! Trust your ears and not anybody on KZbin, including myself. I hope that was also helpful =)
@TheDarinAmes
@TheDarinAmes 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight! I'm actually looking at the V40 Deluxe, but from what I've read, the tube difference is relatively the same as the regular V40. The three amps I'm looking at are the V40D, Matchless Avalon and Mesa Boogie LoneStar Classic. Your Strat sound wonderful, BTW, and, again, your playing is extremely tasteful and you have a great touch.
@JonjanOfficial
@JonjanOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
Beautiful playing dude. I think regardless of the tubes we can accept the amp, the guitar and your hands sound dam fine.
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 7 жыл бұрын
Joncan Kavlakoglu oh man, thank you!!
@mikedegrazia
@mikedegrazia 6 жыл бұрын
Never seen hybrid finger/ plectrum style before, its smooth as silk...nice playing...2 thumbs up for Lenny!
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 6 жыл бұрын
mike degrazia thank you mate =)
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 6 жыл бұрын
take a look at Josh Smith. He is an exceptional guitarist and plays sick hybrid ;-)
@bobvaningen578
@bobvaningen578 3 жыл бұрын
The el34 are rich and creamy, the 6l6's are tighter, slightly more rock sounding to me. And damn man, you groove!! Great sound!
@popeyesailor9571
@popeyesailor9571 7 жыл бұрын
I like the bottom end and clearer tone of the 6l6. The el 34 have more of a snarl if that is you want but I play more clean tone and only go to the point of just a little break up. I would never use a stomp box.
@srficarra
@srficarra 6 жыл бұрын
Sick tone coming from that amp. El34’s for me
@dezionlion
@dezionlion 2 жыл бұрын
I needed some dessert and that mint green strat was it! Thanks!
@juztinking8813
@juztinking8813 4 жыл бұрын
I have to say it really depends of the amp and the style. Some amps like a Mesa Rectifier greatly benefit of having EL34 to cut the booming low end and to get them to sound cleaner, more focused and less scooped, while other amps sound like crap with them. On your amp I preferred the EL34 on the clean and 6L6 on the drive channel
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I think an amp's architecture/design defines more the actual sound than the tube choice. Thank you for your comment. P.S the "drive channel" is just a pedal in front of the clean amp. Just sayin' =)
@copperaudio9664
@copperaudio9664 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, exactly what I needed to hear.
@goldcoins9311
@goldcoins9311 4 жыл бұрын
You might hear a difference at loud volumes on full power mode. Try biasing the tubes. The EL34 would need at least 34 Milliamps to sound good and be efficient at the same time. Not sure about the idle voltage for the 6L6s. You can also try biasing the voltage down to 20 Milliamps if the amp sounds too bassy.
@nicholassuhrs
@nicholassuhrs 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds magic. Fantastic playing!!
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 6 жыл бұрын
nicholaspj 33 that was so kind. Thanx mate =)
@jiveassassin1247
@jiveassassin1247 Ай бұрын
I changed the stock EL34s that came with the amp for Preferred Series 6L6WGC and I found a noticeable difference. I think the ELs had a bit more in the mids and a little more sparkly in the top end,, and when I cranked the vol they distorted more. But I do like the 6l6s better they seem creamier and smoother in the mids, and overall maybe a tad darker. They seem to take gain pedals way better. That being said I do favor a "creamy" mid rich distortion sound, so at the end of the day I think its down to tastes.
@LNara4
@LNara4 8 жыл бұрын
in this video you are going to hear a very professional narration of what you are going to hear :) Go Bakis! *nice guitar playing
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 8 жыл бұрын
Αχαχαχα.. thanx Έλενα!
@cyelannford4735
@cyelannford4735 6 жыл бұрын
Great sounding EQ... Awesome playing, and both tubes sound really good. Each would sound slightly better with certain music, but if I only could pick one, EL34.
@fuzzyapple45
@fuzzyapple45 5 жыл бұрын
Wow....absolutely love your playing!
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 5 жыл бұрын
That's so kind! Thank you =)
@bbensoy
@bbensoy 8 жыл бұрын
Great comparison! High quality sound and nice playing! Thanks for that. And I liked EL34 as its the default one. Sounds more open in mids and lively and glassy. Also I think what they promise as the american sound in the description is coming from that one with a little more live attack. Super amp! Hoping to buy one in near future
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :-)
@larsfrederiksen3005
@larsfrederiksen3005 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Great, short introduction and fantastic sound and playing. I own this very amplifier and am very pleased to hear how great it can sound. Now back to some practicing ;-)
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 7 жыл бұрын
hahaha... a good sound for practising is always welcome! Thank you for your kind words!! =)
@sarahoward3341
@sarahoward3341 2 жыл бұрын
I have an above average pair of headphones. And so, I could easily hear that the EL34's are much more brilliant! Comparatively, the 6L6's were dull with more bass.
@intrsoul
@intrsoul 7 жыл бұрын
Terrific video - subbed! I vote 6L6 - there was some extra sparkle at the beginning of 'Lenny' with the 6L6's. I would use pedals for drive, so the 6L6's would likely have smidgen more headroom. Thanks!
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 7 жыл бұрын
thank you mate!! =)
@charliewelch328
@charliewelch328 4 жыл бұрын
That amp sounds incredible.
@adamrichards2072
@adamrichards2072 7 жыл бұрын
An interesting and quality demo. Thanks for sharing. Oh, and sound the same to me. Had been wondering what the difference would be.
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 7 жыл бұрын
Adam Richards as I've said before, there is a difference. Not at this video and what you hear, but in real life. If I had turned up the volume on 6L6s to match the volume of the EL34s, you would understand. Anyway, I found that the feel of the 6L6s wasn't for me.
@gregt5996
@gregt5996 Жыл бұрын
I've always been partial to EL34's, they have an inner light and dynamic contrast in the mids that 6l6's can't match.
@BipolarSmile
@BipolarSmile 7 жыл бұрын
Don't even care about the tube comparison :p Came here to listen to your beautiful playing!
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 7 жыл бұрын
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@Ekis86
@Ekis86 7 жыл бұрын
Great playing and good demo :)
@fentonwinmill
@fentonwinmill 6 ай бұрын
SRV would often use Marshalls for his clean sounds (EL34s) but Fenders/Dumbles (L6Ls) for his overdriven tones
@timothyjay2012
@timothyjay2012 7 жыл бұрын
The clean part makes it tough. but the dirty guitar tones killed it. The EL34'S have so much more harmonic overtones to me there's no comparison! EL34's! Damn dude that picking is off the funking hook dude Omg you could sell 4 minute clips of that stuff its so good!!! \,,/ Props
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 7 жыл бұрын
Tim Stanley hahaha.. thanx a lot Tim!
@joemato
@joemato 6 жыл бұрын
They all sound good for the superb playing you have.
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 6 жыл бұрын
JoeMat Olivares hahaha.. that wasn't the purpose of the video but thank you very much! Very kind words =)
@shobhachandra1975
@shobhachandra1975 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful playing
@Matthew-OU812
@Matthew-OU812 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating! You can do that?! Switch EL34s for 6L6?! Yes, I'm a noob.
@Yupppi
@Yupppi 8 жыл бұрын
I think 6L6 sounds warmer, less mids and more bass I think. Also clearer (not distorting) More "american" sounding when EL34 is british sounding. My question would be, if you wanted to check how the different tubes sound, why would you use a fuzz stomp box for distorted sound? If you play preamp tubes harder to power tubes, the power tubes will act different than when you push it the same as clean tones. It also leaves one variable out. Correct me if I'm wrong though. I would have definitely organize the clips so that same lick with same pickup are compared right after each other. Now you got to awkwardly jump approximately from one timestamp to another. Other than that, good demo and good job reamping the clips!
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 8 жыл бұрын
I think that the British or American sound of an amp is a result of various parameters and not only the power tubes. Victory has it's own voicing somewhere between those two worlds, although it's made in UK. Since my low output strat is not able to push hard this quite clean amp, I prefered to use a pedal for people who are interested in distorted tones. As I mentioned in a previous comment, this test/experiment would be more accurate if I also had set tha master volume of the amp higher (while playing with 6L6) to reach EL34s sound level (those 4dB). Ok, my mistake. =) You are also right about the clips organization, but I prefered a more musical approach. But you have the option to download the wav files (see description) and hear for yourself anything you want. Thank you for watching and leaving your comment! =)
@Yupppi
@Yupppi 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was referring to the commonly understood tone description of American/British, not necessarily meaning the amp sounds one or the other and I agree with you that Victory isn't on the one side of the spectrum but borrows qualities from both traditional types and mixes its own things in. I can understand your decisions regarding testing, of course with the test gear and test situation you have to make compromises like using pedals (preferredly not tone shaping) to achieve more distortion and it's more practical video than comparing 5 different guitars with different pickups. If you had some transparent booster that would probably be optimal but not everyone has those ready for tests. I think balancing the volume in video was a great idea though, comparing the actual sound in the same setting since different power through tubes and perceived sound pressure in room may significantly change what you hear which is not related to the tube's characteristics. On the other hand you may want to show the difference in actual use (meaning you may need to drive 6L6 harder in use and will also get power amp distortion earlier) but youtube is full of those videos and I think this reduces some elements of the test that may give false ideas of the characteristics of those tubes. Thanks for uploading the files for own comparison, you'd be correct in that I didn't notice them :) Even if I criticised some things in the test, I approve your test, you can hear the difference and the quality is high. It's a good video! Also, your Victory amp is nice!
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 8 жыл бұрын
The truth is that it was the first time I changed tubes on my Victory. So, in order not to change my mic setup at all, I did this video. Days later I realised the actual difference of 6L6s. Now, I have to set the volume higher, because I like a certain amount of SPL while playing. That's the actual use you talked about earlier. Maybe I'll film another test too ;-) Thank you for your kind words.
@Yupppi
@Yupppi 8 жыл бұрын
I bet the new tubes will be somewhat different after a year, they'll take their time to drive them in after all. Is V40 easily interchangeable between EL34 and 6L6? Like no need to bias or change the socket?
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 8 жыл бұрын
They won't last a year. I have already buy new EL34s =) Yes, it is very easy. You change the position of a switch and you bias from the beginning. It takes less than 10 minutes.
@ricleao77
@ricleao77 7 жыл бұрын
Sounds amazing with both tubes, but I prefer the 6L6. Great job
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 7 жыл бұрын
ricleao77 thanks mate!
@sirbaronvoncount4147
@sirbaronvoncount4147 7 жыл бұрын
They both sound great but I gotta give some love to the el34. I think they are underrated for cleans. Just my opinion. That stray sounds the fire man
@sirbaronvoncount4147
@sirbaronvoncount4147 7 жыл бұрын
Edward McLaughlin I do what needs to be done.
@dragui9932
@dragui9932 7 жыл бұрын
Great demo! Thank you. Surprisingly I like the EL34 more And great playing !
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! =)
@jamesha175
@jamesha175 7 жыл бұрын
hey all y'alls watching this - check out @ 1:09 his first finger is double jointed - *advantage!*
@jamesha175
@jamesha175 7 жыл бұрын
also, watch when he strategically switches his pick-up selector switch. that is a mini lesson all in itself.
@TimMer1981
@TimMer1981 7 жыл бұрын
Also an interesting option in the V40: KT77. Soundwise a mix between the EL34 and the 6L6: smooth highs, very present but not harsh mids and tight lows. Can be used without any problem. Just rebias and done. :)
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 7 жыл бұрын
didn't know that. Thanks mate!
@kevon217
@kevon217 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison!
@Driftuner
@Driftuner 7 жыл бұрын
way too similar to really be bothered...sick playing dude
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 7 жыл бұрын
Pe Peroni true dat.. the similarity I mean ;-)
@wrongchordsrecords
@wrongchordsrecords Жыл бұрын
nice amp ,well recorded.
@ernieflanaganstingraybassm1463
@ernieflanaganstingraybassm1463 6 жыл бұрын
They both sound great but the EL 34 has a little bit more bite but not enough to tell a big difference and great playing my friend
@aronhallam6449
@aronhallam6449 6 жыл бұрын
maybe the difference wuld be more apparent wyhen the amp was turned right up , I think maybe the gainy part of the bideo was a bit brighter with the 6l6 , a great video at any rate , the amp sounds wonderful
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 6 жыл бұрын
aron hallam thank you mate =)
@colinnickel8197
@colinnickel8197 7 жыл бұрын
Great job man, killer playing! Was the first clean bit something you came up with, or is it a song?Because those chords need to be in my life.
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!! =) 0:38-0:52 is based on SRV's "Lenny". After that, is just me.
@colinnickel8197
@colinnickel8197 7 жыл бұрын
Darn, I gotta figure out those cool jazzy chords after 0:52. Guess i'll have to watch the video a few more times :)
@stephensmith799
@stephensmith799 7 жыл бұрын
I hear the 6L6s as being more bassey (aka warmer). I have a 6L6-fitted Duchess and am really pleased with it but I find that the bass knob needs to be rolled back almost to 1, the mid back to 4 and the treble upped to 10. My gear is a wonderful ported 12" Montage speaker with a Type-A Celestion (chosen to compliment the 6L6s) and a Fender US Standard Delux with Lace Gold PUs. The Victory Duchess is a wonderful amp. This new rig has led me to use the bridge pu much more than I used to with my Laney VC30.
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 7 жыл бұрын
Bass to 1, Treble to 10 and bridge pickup..??? That sounds really scary and dangerous!!
@stephensmith799
@stephensmith799 7 жыл бұрын
Yeh. Those numbers look all wrong for sure. But it is still bassy-warm!!!!
@colinnickel8197
@colinnickel8197 7 жыл бұрын
I have a V40 also, and it's got a whole bunch of bass. I'm used to playing el84, so I also crank up the treble and the bass down to 1. It's still got plenty of bass indeed.
@stephensmith799
@stephensmith799 7 жыл бұрын
Colin Nickel I'm going to try putting a Fuzzface in the loop for a gig tonight. You are not supposed to but I think it will sound less wild that way..... Here goes nothing!
@colinnickel8197
@colinnickel8197 7 жыл бұрын
Stephen Smith I tried that with my heavier distortion and she just couldn't handle it, but hopefully it worked out well for you. I also spoke with Martin at Victory and he gave me a mod to calm the bass response. Switch out some resistors and a cap, so nothing too crazy.
@AD-kv9kj
@AD-kv9kj 7 жыл бұрын
It's hard to tell the difference on a KZbin video at least. EL34s sound subtly more punchy. 6L6s sound fractionally creamier. Maybe no reverb would help.
@ehoc42
@ehoc42 5 жыл бұрын
His playing made me fractionally cream
@donkeydarko77
@donkeydarko77 3 жыл бұрын
No reverb? Are you lizardperson?
@grahamkelly8299
@grahamkelly8299 28 күн бұрын
As you are a brilliant player and have used this amp for some time, I’m interested to know which you prefer? Which has more bottom end? Which has more presence? I use humbuckers and I own this amp and have a set of both tubes so before I start changing them I would really like to know what you think?
@MrTuktuk222
@MrTuktuk222 8 жыл бұрын
It's EL34 for me!
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 8 жыл бұрын
me too! :-)
@rbagel55
@rbagel55 5 жыл бұрын
With you playing they sound good no matter what power tubes you are using . You are a very tasty player. But I agree with you. I can't tell much of a difference
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 5 жыл бұрын
I believe you exaggerate, but thank you very much for your kind words!! =)
@rbagel55
@rbagel55 5 жыл бұрын
@@BakisProductions I have a Mesa Boogie guitar amp that can take either 6L6s or EL34's The EL34 tubes have a bit more midrange, but I think the 6L6 tubes have a better clean tone. The difference isn't that much though
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 5 жыл бұрын
@@rbagel55 Yeah, it's not only the tube itself, it's also the amp's design/architecture.
@rbagel55
@rbagel55 5 жыл бұрын
@@BakisProductions that Victory amp you have has such a great clean sound, cleaner than an old blackface Fender twin. Bet it wasn't cheap either ! I am going to have to research that amp.
@thebossandthebeestonstreet9493
@thebossandthebeestonstreet9493 5 жыл бұрын
I heard a difference, the 6L6s sound deeper in the bass and a bit sparkly on top- I missed the graphic at the start, so it wasn’t confirmation bias. The differences are subtle but there.
@javiceres
@javiceres 4 жыл бұрын
I’m hearing the same in the clean examples and I don’t know what graphic you’re talkin’, I fforwarded the start
@DanielG0m3z
@DanielG0m3z 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the dropbox links, it is so much clear there!! Was it quick to to the re-biasing? Great playing!!
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 7 жыл бұрын
DanielG0m3z thanks mate! =) Yes, the rebias was easy.
@diego123rm
@diego123rm 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing tone, amazin guitar player! Inspiring
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 7 жыл бұрын
Diego Tuñas oh man, thanks so much! =)
@zbaby82
@zbaby82 2 жыл бұрын
The EL34s sounded the best to me.
@manbeast713
@manbeast713 6 жыл бұрын
Some great playing dude!!
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 6 жыл бұрын
Danny Walker GMC Thanx mate =)
@philthekiwi5
@philthekiwi5 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely playing man. Got a bit lost concentrating on that rather than the tones!
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 2 жыл бұрын
well, I guess then that I have failed on the basic purpose of the video! hahaha Thanks for your kind words mate =)
@TheParanoidAndroid79
@TheParanoidAndroid79 7 жыл бұрын
I preferred 6L6 for the "Lenny" part- where the clear response of the 6L6s really shine, but I liked the EL34s better for the groovier parts of the clean section and the driven section as well. For versatility, I would probably stick with the EL34s.
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 7 жыл бұрын
TheParanoidAndroid79 I still can't hear any difference in this recording/video. However, I appreciate your comment. The few weeks I had the 6L6s, I was missing the "aggressive" sound of EL34s. And I consider myself a Fender taste guy. I like smooth, fat and not harsh sound. But 6L6s were not for me with this particular amp.
@TheParanoidAndroid79
@TheParanoidAndroid79 7 жыл бұрын
I may just have blown out enough high frequencies in my 20s that I can really hear that mid signature now. :) I definitely would describe the difference in the EL34s as "fatness". I will say that I never liked the JJ 6L6s though. By the by, Great playing.
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 7 жыл бұрын
hahaha.. thanx mate! =)
@aharkness5657
@aharkness5657 2 жыл бұрын
To really compare the parts, they should not be minute(s) apart. Slicing this video so the same passage is played immediately one after another would make it possible to actually compare the sounds.
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip. For real comparison you can download both tracks and treat them as you prefer.
@aharkness5657
@aharkness5657 2 жыл бұрын
@@BakisProductions Yes. It's a beautiful sound and an interesting demo, though. Just hard to actually compare unless you have some crazy analytical hearing abilities. :)
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 2 жыл бұрын
@@aharkness5657 hahaha.. indeed! There's actual difference, but you can only feel it while you play. I find those tracks almost identical. Sometimes I ask myself if I made a mistake and placed the same wav file into the video 😆
@paullazarus790
@paullazarus790 4 жыл бұрын
Don't call that strat shitty, it sounds and looks great! Nice playing.
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 4 жыл бұрын
It had several issues. Some of them serious. It's not just the looks and the sound. ;-)
@MrEMann
@MrEMann 7 жыл бұрын
Great playing. I'm sure you sound good through most amps. Thank you.
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! =) I would like to try an AC30. I think I will sound like crap (hahaha) with that one, although people say it's a great amp.
@jamesha175
@jamesha175 7 жыл бұрын
no brother, you are good and will sound awesome. even on acoustic.
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 7 жыл бұрын
jamesha175 speechless! Thanx mate!! =)
@jamesha175
@jamesha175 7 жыл бұрын
no brother man, thank you for posting this video. there are a zillion guitar guy videos on youtube but rarely does one merit any attention. with this one vid you have risen a little bit above the normal pack.
@jamesha175
@jamesha175 7 жыл бұрын
by the way, ya, AC 30? hell to the yes. get one and you will give up regular amps.
@Robotwr
@Robotwr 7 жыл бұрын
Nice playing - very inspiring.
@Robotwr
@Robotwr 7 жыл бұрын
Tried the V40 6L6 - Nice sound but concerned I was running treble at 100% and nowhere else to go if i needed to. Build quality is awesome.
@Robotwr
@Robotwr 7 жыл бұрын
Takes a Strymon Riverside very well by the way.
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 7 жыл бұрын
Trefor Roberts thank you for your comments! =)
@isaacbulay4061
@isaacbulay4061 2 жыл бұрын
Great Playing! 6L6 seems more balanced and clean! 🤙
@peterschneider7296
@peterschneider7296 6 жыл бұрын
A great clean tone. Exactly what I like. Very well played. The reamping technique is a good choice here. Could you tell a lil more about the mic placement? Specially interested how you placed the Cascade Ribbon Mic - to get it in phase with the TLM 102. A picture would be great ofc ;) Thanks!
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 6 жыл бұрын
Peter Schneider it's a mid/side technique. I don't feel there are phase issues. You might find some answers in the description and also my Facebook page. Give it a try =)
@frankyquintanilla2828
@frankyquintanilla2828 3 жыл бұрын
Nice playing! What is your eq set at on the amp? I’m trying to get a little brighter sound.
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 3 жыл бұрын
thanks! EQ on amp is set as you see it at 0:16
@timothyjay2012
@timothyjay2012 7 жыл бұрын
Im a huge EL34 fan so im dying to see witch one i like best! Brb
@1234mikeirving
@1234mikeirving 7 жыл бұрын
Outstanding playing man! Teach me to play like you please.
@WildOne01
@WildOne01 5 жыл бұрын
It ALL sounds awesomely sweet! Love it. Some of us (I'm projecting here) would love to pick up some of these licks. In the future (or maybe reshoot this vid??), would it be possible to show your playing head on? If the Victory has to be in the frame, maybe put in foreground? Will check out your other vids!
@Ragnar-Viking
@Ragnar-Viking 4 жыл бұрын
I wanted the the deluxe, but the EL84 were more chimey.Great demo my friend.
@shckltnebay
@shckltnebay 3 жыл бұрын
84?
@MrKadidle51
@MrKadidle51 Жыл бұрын
Both sound amazing. It's a wash
@jbonham78
@jbonham78 4 жыл бұрын
Great playing!
@sihartobing9570
@sihartobing9570 6 жыл бұрын
It Very Good Voice ,Sound System V40. Very very clear voice to hearing, Use EL.34. & 6L6 tube lamp, .... Bravo.
@ToonDeWachter
@ToonDeWachter 6 жыл бұрын
I've just found this video. May I compliment you on your playing? Very tasteful! Yummie :-) I don't think there is a real tonal difference between the two sets of tubes, but I I hear a little more hair on the EL34s like they distort a little earlier and perhaps a bit more top end and I think I hear more clarity from the 6L6s with more warmth if that makes any sense. I am not sure which set I would prefer though, but the EL34s sound a little more vivid to me.
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 6 жыл бұрын
Toon De Wachter since the difference is not really audible, i think you should compliment my playing. hahaha.. Thanx mate =)
@coppulor6500
@coppulor6500 6 жыл бұрын
okay. great playing : )
@lukaszgrzela7504
@lukaszgrzela7504 8 жыл бұрын
Great video, was really hoping someone would do such test. Very little difference to my ears. Maybe a bit more pronounced attack and tighter bottom end with 6L6? Anyway, I really liked your playing and the sound of your strat. Is it a medium magnet creamback in your cab?
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words! The cabinet is V112C with Celestion G12M-65 Creamback speaker
@erniecf
@erniecf 7 жыл бұрын
Great playing
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 7 жыл бұрын
Ernie Francestine thank you!
@woodkraft7575
@woodkraft7575 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your good video and I fount an adapter (SAT UB-1) that can connect headphones by connecting to the amplifier speaker terminal on etsy. ...
@Axional_X
@Axional_X 3 жыл бұрын
Πολύ ωραίος φιλε μου! Βιντεο-ήχος-παίξιμο {Ποιότητα}!!! (Ντούκας Παρτκαστερ είναι η κυρία;;)
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 3 жыл бұрын
ευχαριστώ πολύ! =) Ναι, καλά την κατάλαβες ;-)
@Axional_X
@Axional_X 3 жыл бұрын
@@BakisProductions Εχω και εγώ μια από τον Σταύρο, μπορεί να έχουν συναντηθεί σε κάποιο εργαστηριο οι κύριες 😅.
@yannicpython116
@yannicpython116 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome playing man!! What kind of pick are you using?
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate =) Steve Vai's Ibanez picks
@JamesStMichael
@JamesStMichael 4 жыл бұрын
Hi there! What two mics did you use???? The quality is awesome!
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 4 жыл бұрын
Please check the description and you will find all the information you need =)
@zsolttoth6948
@zsolttoth6948 7 жыл бұрын
Great playing!Greetings from Austria 🇦🇹!Ive just purchased a v30 with 6l6 tubes in it.Was wondering if I should replace them with el34-s ...On KZbin I couldn't hear too much of a difference though so I guess I'll wait until they give up working and then I will see...Thanks for the superb quality tone!👍🎸👌
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 7 жыл бұрын
Zsolt Toth thank you mate! Well, I don't know about V30. Either way it's just a matter of personal taste. ;-)
@EnmandsBand1
@EnmandsBand1 4 жыл бұрын
wow, I can't hear any real differences either and that's a surprice :-O
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 4 жыл бұрын
There is an actual feel difference. But that can't be captured in a video. And those 4dB are a difference too.
@betterthandeadohyea4500
@betterthandeadohyea4500 5 жыл бұрын
Little wing on youtube is the Smoke on the water of guitar center nice amp thought
@Criticochato1
@Criticochato1 4 жыл бұрын
It's all in your fingers, man
@BakisProductions
@BakisProductions 4 жыл бұрын
Hehe.. fingers do their job, gear does also. Thank you though!! =)
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