Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2 Bookshelf Speaker Meta Review.

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Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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Preamp & Power Amplifier & Integrated amps used:
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Source: Bluesound Node 2i
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(all music is hi-res streamed from Tidal)
DAC: Denafrips Ares II
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RCA Cables: Analysis Plus Oval One
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Speaker & Power Cables: Maze Audio REF4
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Subwoofers Used:
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Your results may vary based on your ears, room, and associated equipment:

[@edmundgil6008]

Totally dig your new-ish review format. In the end, we want to come away with an honest and accurate description of each speaker or gear you review. Commenting on other reviewer comments seems to bring the best out of your own thoughts and comments. Looking forward to more to come, bro. If we don’t hear from you, thank you for all of your great work, & Happy New Year!

[@arena_rock_man9030]

I'm subscribed to IIWI as well. Great reviewer and content.

[@saxxman]

I generally like your reviews. I think you are correct about a lot of what you say. But I think you missed the boat on these speakers. Andrew Jones didn't design these speakers to be bass heavy. So when you're talking sub 50 hz, it's kind of a mute point. If the music your listening to goes sub 50 hz you can always get a sub. I mostly listen to jazz and classical music. And the way these speakers are balanced make them superior performers in these styles of music. The midrange is glorious. The soundstage is big and the midrange/treble instruments sing sparkling clear. It has enough bass to support this music well. It's in the same ilk as the Kef ls50's that all pop/rock listeners seem to bash for their lack of bass. They play acoustical instruments gloriously, may not have super big bass, but not everyone listens to music requiring sub 50hz bass. I'm sure a lot of people who buy the Kefs, buy them for my style of music. Not everyone has the same wants or needs in a speaker. I personally would not want a speaker that leans leans bass heavy. I want the sparkling mids and highs with a balanced bass that supports but does not overpower the main melodic instruments in the ensemble. I want my speakers to reproduce the performances I'm listening to as honestly and uncolored as possible. These speakers are really good at that.

[@NemoPropaganda]

it's okay bro, sometimes we might disagree :) I do very much appreciate that you didn't just disagree but also took the time to explain, I love that! I will admit I don't listen to Jazz, I can appreciate it for sure though, it's just not my taste. It sounds like for your usage case they are fantastic and for that I am very happy.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yeah, I like this review format, pretty cool

[@NemoPropaganda]

Thank you bro! Plz watch the Stereo X guy i talked about, I think you will enjoy his candor.

[@edwarddiogu6377]

From Nigeria: merry Christmas and a happy new year to you and everyone that views this channel. Your reviews are very useful to me, and I always look forward to watching you take on any products.. Thanks a lot.

[@NemoPropaganda]

Thank you Edward, I'm happy you're enjoying my ramblings :)

[@muzammelhaquemukul7089]

That's very straightforward answer a lot of people would appreciate.

[@NemoPropaganda]

thank you brother!

[@josephvanalstyne4049]

i have the b6 2.0. hated them initially . wait 1 to 2 months. one thing about elac. they need lots of burn in. they will open up and surprise you. lots of speakers need time and patience that some people do not have.

[@NemoPropaganda]

Nemo Propaganda has lots of patience, I had the speakers for approx 1 year now :). I usually put 100 or more hours on gear before reviewing it so I totally agree with you :).

[@gregmatula9749]

@@glennjones6574 The burn-in would be in the suspension systems of the drivers (surrounds and spiders). The drivers should have a lower resonant frequency after burn-in, and a higher Cms. The change would be practically unnoticeable. Most of the burn-in is mental, as you said. It doesn't hurt to exercise the drivers to half of Xmax before critical listening/evaluating, via test tones or music.

[@Fckisnotrealnatowefc_nts]

Yes i'm sure it's not just in your head

[@joemaloney7037]

One-stop shop. LEGENDARY.

[@Jaredcouture12676]

I just picked up the 6.5 towers, bookshelves and center used for $500. Family member. I’m pretty happy with them. I played around with the towers by themselves a little bit. Personally I really like them. Soundstage is great. I can tell where everyone in the band is supposed to be situated on the stage. Vocals sound like they’re coming from the center channel that wasn’t connected. Sounded like I had front wide, height and surround running. I think they may just be true to the recording and not adding extra color to it. I am happy I have a subwoofer for even the towers though. My Klipsch Reference 12 sounds good with them. For home theater I’m happy with them too. I’m not using a great receiver with them either. Right now I’m running them on a Denon AVR S960W. My old Integra DTR 50.4 is in the other room and I’m going to try them with that at some point too.

[@NemoPropaganda]

Nice dude! That's a great price, enjoy my man :)

[@BatteryAz1z]

I have these speakers. When I first got them I didn't like them. Sounded flat, bright, recessed lower mids (snare hits and such had no impact) and very fatiguing. But I stuck with them anyway. After a couple of weeks they started to open up. Warmer, punchier, still bright but less so with the grills on. Definitely much more impressive than when I first got them. I've since replaced them with the UB52's (found them for €339 so why the hell not right) and I've set them up in another room. Also own the original UB5's for my home theater setup as well as some Dalis so I have some decent reference points for comparison. All done with a sub btw. Long story short if you buy these speakers, give them time. Not days, but weeks. They'll grow on you, guaranteed.

[@NemoPropaganda]

I agree, for what it’s worth I’ve had them about a year.

[@BatteryAz1z]

@@NemoPropaganda They're just too pretty to throw away right. Btw, do you have a review on the Dali Spektor 2? Those are next on my list since I gifted a pair recently to my BIL and was very impressed with how little power they needed to fill the room. I know you didnt like the Oberon 1's but the Spektors seem like better (mid fi) all rounders.

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@BatteryAz1z Dali just isn't popular in the USA for some reason so if I want to review them I have to buy them and after my Oberon 1 experience it's just not something I want to spend money on. I do have the new Dynaudio EMIT though :D

[@BatteryAz1z]

@@NemoPropaganda Maybe Randy can lend you his ;)

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@BatteryAz1z ooof, he reviewed them 7 months ago so I don't know if he still has them. Also if it's a review sample then or sure it's been sent back already. I'll ask him next time we chat :)

[@ajzepp8976]

Those Emotivas are that good, eh? Good to know. By the way, I have pretty much always valued feedback from regular guys FAR more than "professional reviewers". You are the the best example Ive come across as to why. Maybe you have us all fooled, but I get the sense you are 100% candid and honest in your feedback. I never know what conflicts of interest or, uh, financial incentives are at play with the "pro" guys. (I wont mention names, but several of them have a youtube presence.) So anyway, blowing a bit of sunshine up ur ass for a Tuesday, but just know that you're appreciated brother. You help a lot of people make GREAT choices in gear. PS: The Skylan stands I saw on your channel are the best Ive ever owned. So thanks again for the suggestion. Absolutely fantastic products that help my NOLAs sing.

[@NemoPropaganda]

I appreciate that AJ, I'll take all the sunshine I can get :D I think we all try to be as candid as possible, it's just that some people have a harder time with it due to their personality, and others may fear losing relationships and this is where the reviewer must ask themselves are they working for the viewers or are they working for the manufacturers. Me personally I'm very comfortable with confrontation, I don't care if a company is "upset with me" I'm fairly old fashion when it comes to "hurt feelings", they're a business so they should put on their big boy pants and learn to take some criticism.

[@ajzepp8976]

@@NemoPropaganda Very well said. Your feedback is always inclusive of "warts". Its important to have that side of the equation. Im sure audio companies want their stuff showcased in the best light possible, but if a reviewer cant be honest and candid, then there is far less value to the viewer. I think most of your audience would agree that your feedback offers some of the best overall value on youtube 🤘

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@ajzepp8976 it does but sadly the more critical I am the more thumbs down I get so this channel will never really grow too much, that is also another reason many reviewers are less candid, it simply isn't good for views.

[@ajzepp8976]

@@NemoPropaganda I guess im not surprised by that...sadly.

[@HanFiredFirst]

Thanks for the insight!

[@IrenESorius]

Cheers and Happy New Year Nemo,, 🍻🎅‍🤘‍‍

[@NemoPropaganda]

Happy new year!

[@rookiestereophilemikej5508]

I agree... the 5.2 it lacks in some areas... that's why I purchased the 6.2 pretty big difference and for $50 more it's well worth going with the 6.2. Debuts. Also they are picky with placement. I was very disappointed when I first set them up... then I moved them around a few times and finally got them to sound pretty decent... i tried them with my JBL subwoofer and it didn't impress... so I agree with you on it being a challenge to pair a sub with it... it did pair well with my Paradigm 10" subwoofer

[@NemoPropaganda]

I agree, since I bought it just for review I went for the cheaper but those buying for keeps certainly should go for the 6.2.

[@bobb.9917]

I don't need speakers currently, but I do have a pair of Kinki Studio EX-B7 Mono Blocs on a DHL jet headed my way from Hong Kong, RIGHT NOW! …When I pair them up with my Schiit Freya+, I will be starting off my new year with some seriously Kinki Schiit!!! 🙂😁😂. Keep those reviews coming in 2022, as you continue to feed my audio monster! 👍🏼

[@NemoPropaganda]

hell yeah brother!

[@Manu-yv1jt]

I cannot agree to some points. I own two pair of the 5.2 and I am very happy with it. There is plenty of base in my smal to mid-size rooms and it gets very low. I retired my subwoofer because of these speakers, believe me or not, it´s enough for daily use. I general I think the sound is great and I heard the KEF Q350, the Elac Debut Reference 62. Take the 5.2 with a cheap class D amp like the Aiyima A05 and be happy about a good cheap system. I think you must come down from the base hype. (The Emotiva B1+ is not sold in my country)

[@NemoPropaganda]

Hey Manu, no problem with that my friend. It's okay to disagree :). It is very possible that this speaker is an excellent fit for you room & equipment and that is awesome!

[@Manu-yv1jt]

@@NemoPropaganda Thank you, man, for your kind response 😊. Maybe you will try it again in a small room with a Class D, like the Aiyima A05. I even sold my Denon PMA 600-NE for the little Aiyima because It´s sound less warm. But it could be just me with some bad taste xD

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@Manu-yv1jt I also did not like the 600ne very much, it was a bit congested sounding to me almost like it didn't let the speakers breathe. I think your taste is just fine :)

[@Manu-yv1jt]

@@NemoPropaganda Thank´s so I´m not all out of mind ;)

[@bluerev]

I absolutely love your reviews, and this format, in particular, is very cool. Extra points for giving Stereo Review X a shout out.)

[@NemoPropaganda]

Much appreciated! Yeah that guy is gold, he's my spirit animal lol

[@donalddeorio2237]

Stereoreview x is good, older gentleman been doing this a long time

[@NemoPropaganda]

he is my spirit animal.

[@mattkalis1567]

Love it!

[@NemoPropaganda]

Thanks!!

[@FlameSting]

I really like your perspective as a high-end gear reviewer as a contrast to cheapaudioman's for speakers in this budget price range, and the straightforward and candid delivery. I'd be interested to hear more comparisons for other speakers in this range - in particular some of JBL's offerings when their sales bring the speaker prices down to this 200-300 range.

[@NemoPropaganda]

Hi Flame, I don't have my eye on any JBL at the moment aside from their L52 classic but I will be reviewing the affordable KLH Albany II fairly soon.

[@seanb3303]

Nice review summary. How have you flattened the bass response in your room?

[@NemoPropaganda]

I don't have any need to change the sound of my room.

[@fahgars]

Thanks for the review. I have a couple of questions and comment after watching your video. What style of music do you usually listen too? I am looking for some speakers and I like to listen to rap or stuff with some nice bass and after watching some YT videos on speakers I feel that audiophile world is mostly to less bass based music, e.g. jazz (which is also very nice and I enjoy to listen sometime but not my primary music type let's say) so they seems to like more medium rich (for instruments) speakers. Is this correct? From your review, you seem disappointed by the Elac's bass, I checked about the B1+ you mentionned but they seem quite difficult to find in Europe. Would you recommend any other speakers in the same price range with nice bass (without being boomy neither)? Finally, I didn't pay attention if you mentionned it somewhere in the video but some of the reviews you are referring are from the Elac B6.2 (not the 5.2), which are different speakers so I don't know if we can directly compare the reviews. Anyway, nice work and cheers

[@NemoPropaganda]

Every time I quoted someone about the B6.2 it says B6.2 on the screen next to the quote. I don't listen to Jazz, I know what you mean but I'm not that kind of audiophile. I listen to EDM, hip-hop, etc... My advice is to buy whatever speakers you like and just add a subwoofer honestly. If you like bass you really need a subwoofer. I have reviewed many subwoofers :D so just like you I like my bass!

[@laurensmith485]

I appreciate that the emotiva are really good speakers and I would get them but here in the uk and other countries we cannot get hold of them so we have to go with other speakers that are good,and I’ve listened to a lot of speakers now and I think the elacs 5.2 are still one of the best especially at the price point today,Thankyou for all the reviews you do,very informative 👍🏼

[@NemoPropaganda]

Yeah that is something I often fail to remember, good point!

[@MrEdsTheRef]

These speakers have enough base and have not needed to use sub woofer since they have bedded in.

[@NemoPropaganda]

I disagree but I'm happy the bass is sufficient in your room.

[@bryansu]

would be interesting if u can do a video on what you always mention "subwoofer integrate with speaker well or bad". i heard you say that a lot, but i am not too sure what u mean by a good integrated sound like. thanks.

[@NemoPropaganda]

Subwoofer integration is simple, it means the sound of the subwoofer and speakers are in harmony.

[@samsherry9750]

Hi Nemo, to begin with I was under the impression that you were discussing/reviewing the sound and build of the Elac Debut B5.2 speakers but I was left pretty confused (mid way through) as 3 out of the 5 quoted reviews that you are referencing are for the Elac Debut B6.2? Surely there must be clear distinctions between these 2 speaker models to exist, or am I missing something? Thank you.

[@NemoPropaganda]

Hi Sam, this is an aggregate review so often times we will also look at other models in the lineup for comparison sake. It says on screen anytime the reviewer I'm quoting reviewed a larger or alternate model and I mention it verbally also. As we can see in this video all reviewers had similar agreements and assessments regardless of size in this scenario. That may not always be the case but it was the case here. I hope this helps clear up any confusion.

[@samsherry9750]

@@NemoPropaganda thank you! totally understood, I must have missed those segues. I'm eager to check out the Emotiva b1+ (but hard to find in the UK!). Cheers

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@samsherry9750 no worries Sam, stay tuned, I'll be reviewing the KLH Albany II soon which is also rather affordable and hopefully will be a good performer :)

[@manuelamadio1995]

I bought these but I'm missing most of bass frequencies with a Fosi Audio BT20A, they are tight and definied but not enough (before Elac's I had 2 cheap speakers but with a 6" driver). Do you think changing amp will help me? Or maybe replace with 6.2 model? Thank you

[@NemoPropaganda]

Yeah this speaker doesn't have much bass and really needs a higher end amp to sound its best. For cheap speakers my favorite is the Emotiva B1.

[@DDennnisss]

Love the new review format, i think its unprecedented Love the velodyne feedback - regardless of the company - i appreciate the independent stance

[@Jason-ys2rt]

Hi Nemo, great stuff as always. A while back you directed me to PSB imagine minis and I am very happy. I ultimately kept the minis after trying multiple popular speakers, and only the KEF q150 were tempting me, but again, stayed with the Imagine Mini due to the superb overall sound paired with my Definitive sub. Now I am being tempted by a sale on the Jamo c93 ii so I had to turn to you for your thoughts given my love for the minis. FYI, I also settled on a mid range Denon avr s750. Thank you in advance!

[@NemoPropaganda]

I don’t think those jamo will outperform the Mini. The mini have a high performance ceiling but I have not heard that jamo. Are you in the USA? What color are your minis?

[@Jason-ys2rt]

@@NemoPropaganda many thanks for prompt reply! I'm in Cincinnati Ohio, no I don't like the Bengals, and my minis are black with the yellow woofers. I was admittedly drawn to the Jamos because of their looks

[@Jason-ys2rt]

Correction, my minis are cherry wood with yellow woofers

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@Jason-ys2rt well, if you want to sell your mini's I might be interested. So perhaps that may answer your question on how good I think they are :).

[@NemoPropaganda]

​@@Jason-ys2rt damn, I had the cherry, nice finish but doesn't match my room :)

[@marcusmcmurray77]

Thanks for reminding us how terrible the Velodyne DB12 is! It's always hilarious to hear your disdain for that sub

[@NemoPropaganda]

Thank you, I very much enjoy expressing it :D

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@THE-MAD-TECHIE who else reviewed them?

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@THE-MAD-TECHIE I seriously feel bad for anybody who paid money for one of the new velodyne subwoofers, it's an absolute rip off :( such a shame.

[@jameshastings6538]

Have you listened to the ELAC center channels (ELAC Debut2.0 C6.2 or the Uni-Fi 2.0 UC52)?

[@NemoPropaganda]

I have not.

[@psyphonyxaudio]

8th Like ! ... Wassup bro!! .. These are pretty good speakers. .. I think i'd pony up for the concentric models tho. ( imo ) =)

[@psyphonyxaudio]

Where are the links for the reviewer channels?.. still working on that edit into the description?

[@NemoPropaganda]

ooof good catch, i totally forgot, just added them now :D

[@psyphonyxaudio]

@@NemoPropaganda ...Here to support 🙏🙏

[@EsotericArctos]

When "cheapaudioman" did his review, if I recall rightly, he did say they are best paired with a subwoofer. So I don't think he was referring to the below 70hz range with the bass comments. From what I can tell, the b6.2 is not really the same in its sound signature as the b5.2, so I am not sure including quotes about a b6.2 is relevant to the b5.2. Just my thoughts of course, but wanted to note that.

[@NemoPropaganda]

I hear ya, I think if I mentioned the quote without clarifying it was the larger model that would have been totally uncool for sure but when I do the agregate style the goal is for people to get a snapshot of the product and its accompanying range. I did the same with the Polk Reserve line :).

[@jeffkalina7727]

Did you mention the price and warranty up front?

[@NemoPropaganda]

No, it's all available on their website though :), that information changes too often so I stopped mentioning it, right now the speaker is on sale but I also don't know if that's globally or just for USA customers and prices keep changing :(.

[@georgesmith3022]

I am new here and subscribed. I am looking for warm not fatiguing speakers for many hours listening. Any recommendations for speakers that are available to Europe?

[@NemoPropaganda]

Polk Reserve range is on the warmer side as long as you don't point the tweeter right at your ears, maybe join our discord and see if the guys there have any other recommendations: discord.gg/pNtZkqh8

[@thegrimmer]

When do we get Nemo's Carpaganda, the auto rant channel?

[@NemoPropaganda]

I've thought about it but it's a serious amount of editing work.

[@jari121]

I have those and I completely agree with you. Have you ever driven French cars? They are even more comfortable to drive 😄.

[@NemoPropaganda]

Only in gran turismo :D

[@hescominsoon]

is this aggregate format the way you are going to go with or will you be doing some "traditional" reviews?

[@NemoPropaganda]

I'm not sure, for now I'm enjoying it. If however I am the first to premier a product like in the case of the REL T5X or Buchardt S400 MKII the of course that will be a more traditional review.

[@mdcool3487]

These speakers are the bomb 💥 with a bomb 💣 price you can' not get around that,buddy they sound a whole lot better than some of these over price speakers are a rip-off for real.

[@NemoPropaganda]

Like what? What overpriced speaker does this elac outperform? I'm genuinely curious.

[@mdcool3487]

They sound better buddy than most of them overrated speakers, you are looking 👀 too hard for something that's not there buddy. 👌

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@mdcool3487 which ones do these sound better than? Why won’t you answer such a simple question?

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@mdcool3487 looks like you were all talk after all aya? You just talk trash and can't even give one example lol.

[@bradleydurbin6784]

Stereo Review X is that English dude. He’s very opinionated about gear much like Erin’s Audio Corner.

[@shawnmathew825]

What do you think of their ELAC Debut 2.0 SUB3030 that goes with it? It's a 12" sub with a passive radiator for $630 on sale..

[@NemoPropaganda]

I have not heard it but I will be reviewing the SUB2030 very soon.

[@shawnmathew825]

@@NemoPropaganda great! Thx, looking forward to it

[@Captain_Sosuke_Aizen]

Problem is in my country India Emotiva B1 + is priced above even Wharfedale diamond 12.2 at 50K Rs . That's above 600$. Another outrageous price I saw recently was Klipsch rp500 at 65K Rs that's near 800$ ,with more than 600 verified purchases!.😂 Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2 is around 300$ and Emotiva B1+ at 600$ its totally at different price class. I think these Indian sales department of Emotivea, Klipsch etc. are tiring to rip off a young market which does not know too deep about such things. Reviewers say: B1+ is the best ,but people forget, it is best when its below 300$.🤦‍♂

[@NemoPropaganda]

I don't think that's the companies setting the price, most likely resellers bro. Emotiva doesn't ship to India as far as I know.

[@Captain_Sosuke_Aizen]

@@NemoPropaganda Thank you for your reply bro. I understand companies like Emotiva and Klipsch does not care about the Indian market to set up proper price control, but Wharfedale cares, Q acoustics cares even REL cares. Hence, shouldn't emotiva also be more serious about Indian market since they have a lot of budget offerings.

[@Audiomainia2310]

Hey Nano - your car analogy totally hits the spot. You almost always get what you pay for - that's why I pay attention to you, not cheapaudioman. Randy thinks $100.00 bookshelf speakers compete with much more expensive gear. And after this "why audiophiles suck " video, I cant take him seriously. You are on a completely different level brother! Peace, and Happy New Year!!

[@NemoPropaganda]

Hey thank you dude!! Randy is a actually a very nice gentleman and a great source for the younger guys that have yet to build their life and are very budget conscious. I think he like many may have originally been frustrated by some of the sky high prices and pretentious attitudes we sometimes see in the hobby but I'm sure if he heard a $20k system he would not deny how amazing it sounds and he would for sure agree the same sound cannot be had for $2000. I wish, I really wish money wasn't a big factor in the world, it would be so cool if we can buy a car that was like $30k and it was as good as an S class but it's just now the way the world works. I think instead of teaching younger guys that it's okay to buy "cheap" we should be teaching them to empower themselves, to level up, build a career and strong financial foundation for their lives, but we are just youtube reviewers for audio and not financial advisors :).

[@Audiomainia2310]

@@NemoPropaganda That's a great perspective my brother. I know when I first got into audio seriously in the late 80's / 90's that this hobby is a journey that for fun's sake, always changes, always improves, and even in the beginning I was serious about good quality sound. And it costs - always has. You wanted say a Pioneer SX-1950, it was gonna cost you - but it was so fu#king rewarding. And worth saving for - not settling on cheap gear trying to convince yourself ( and others ) you made a better choice. No you didn't - you cheaped out man! Not saying he's not a nice guy - not your caliber brother.

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@Audiomainia2310 you bring up a good point and perhaps it's a sign of the times. So many people want instant gratification that they buy the product they can afford right now so they can have it right now. And sometimes cheap out when instead they could save for maybe 6 months and have something excellent. I knew a gentleman who owned one of the TAD Reference speakers, I said "man you must be rich!" What he said next was amazing, he said "no I'm not rich, I told my wife mostly as a joke I wanted $30k speakers, the next day she came back with a financial plan showing that if we put aside $500 each month in 4 years we would have $24,000 and I could buy them if I found a deal" and god dammit that's what the man did!! I always believed it was better to save and buy the thing you really want but never had I seen it done in audio to such an extent. I only met this man 1 time but this memory will live in my mind forever as a good lesson.

[@Audiomainia2310]

@@NemoPropaganda That's great - a friend of mine in MA just kept upgrading / he would sell what he had and add that to the money he saved. In three years, he now has KEF Reference series speakers, a Luxman amp traded in for the new Technics SU-G700 integrated amp ( wheat a beast ) , Blue Node, and this listening room is absolutely one of the best I've been privy to. And we're both working guys - but know what we want and are patient enough to not sacrifice hard earned money on cheap shit. Btw - just bought the Emotiva speakers to listen for myself, since you've given them such high praise. I was never a fan of ribbon tweeters, but I'm open to change my mind.

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@Audiomainia2310 that's awesome! I've been considering the KEF reference one for myself but it's hard to justify the cost, there is a used pair in my area for $5400. I don't like AMT either but the emotiva AMT is the least AMT sounding one I've heard, it still has that odd mix of characteristics but man at $249 it's crazy good.

[@DDennnisss]

Hahahah; " im the subwoofer guy" Nemo knows how to be say that without sounding arrogant' :;)

[@NemoPropaganda]

I'm always tempted to scream "i am the bass guy" in a Borat style voice but it's not my style of joke lol

[@Audfile]

Hey man! About to buy a Parasound A23+ for my near field. See what $1700 at 250 watts is like versus Emotiva $399 250 watts. Btw the Emo is cut at 80 hz by my Emo subs and therefore sounds fabulous. Be an interesting shootout.

[@NemoPropaganda]

I'll say this from my experience of upgrading amps only the differences are not readily apparent unless they are voiced differently so give yourself some time with that A23+ before going back to the emo for a/b comparison. BTW are you in the discord?

[@Audfile]

@@NemoPropaganda no, not yet. I dont even know what discord is lmao. I've had high end amps before. Ncores I owned and a few others I demoed. I'm expecting a lot more grunt down low so get rid of the high pass and ring these speakers out, improved spatial (although the Emo is no slouch but I am driving it with nice stuff and it is high passed), improved sonics basically. And with this amp I will get to give the new amp the full spurs from my Dac and Pre since I'll be moving from all single ended to all balanced. Should be killer. Pre amp alone goes from 25 volts to now 50 volts.

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@Audfile discord is just like a chatroom app for us to chat on, it's pretty cool. You can use it in your browser or download the app.

[@Audfile]

@@NemoPropaganda ok, im assuming you have a link somewhere here. I'll look!

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@Audfile oh yes discord.gg/pNtZkqh8

[@franciariano5118]

Hi, I really want to buy a new set of speaker for my old amplifier (technics ca-1080). Here in Italy we can’t buy directly from emotiva, and so the shipping is about 120€ adding on top of the speaker price. My budget is around 300€ (more or less). Right now there is a deal on the debut b6.2 (~250€). What is your suggest for the 300€ budget price?

[@NemoPropaganda]

how much is heco aurora 200 or Klipsch R50 in your area?

[@franciariano5118]

@@NemoPropaganda oh wow, I’ve never heard of aurora before. I’ve just checked the price and it’s always on sale between ~350/400€ (it is the aurora 300 model, I cannot find the 200 version). Thanks a lot for the advice!

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@franciariano5118 its really good, I reviewed the 300 recently.

[@10sassafras]

I think this format is interesting but I kept thinking that maybe we listen to different music and if you talked about the music you like it would be useful. I’m a musician who listens to early music, chamber music, small ensemble jazz and sometimes fusion. A sound system that reproduces the human voice or acoustic instruments, like strings, woodwind , percussion and brass, with tremendous realism is my ideal. Maybe we don’t even listen to music at the same db level because not all music is performed at the same volume. It’s difficult deciphering statements if we don’t know the priorities they are based on.

[@NemoPropaganda]

I assume most people do not listen to the same music as me, generally the written/magazine reviewers reference music a lot. I would read those reviews and not understand a thing because I weasn't familiar with any of the tracks they referenced. dB level is also relative to room size, I can go on and on but ultimately all audio reviews are flawed and nothing is a replacement for first hand experience. Your desire to make things more useful is appreciated but just as many people would find it less useful, it is a problem that cannot be solved.

[@10sassafras]

@@NemoPropaganda I really appreciate your reply. Even knowing your preferred genres would be useful. Are you measuring the speakers against acoustic realism or are you looking for a completely different experience, for example? When you find the 5.2 blah and the Emotiva impressive (unavailable here btw) does that mean the 5.2 would be worse for classical music or just less exciting for contemporary music?

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@10sassafras Hi David, I will admit I am not the most reliable source for those who listen to classical or Jazz. I mostly listen to EDM, Rock, Metal, Hip-Hop, Pop and a few older acoustic songs like name by goo goo dolls or Israel Kamakawiwo'ole - Somewhere Over the Rainbow. I also do not believe any speaker can recreate a live performance in any way regardless of price. I think speakers create something different all together. If you still find my content helpful after reading that welcome aboard but I'll understand if you feel I'm not a good fit for your taste :)

[@10sassafras]

@@NemoPropaganda Thanks. I really enjoyed your vid and the extra info helps a great deal. Cheers!

[@michaeln6735]

What do you think of those speakers paired with a yamaha-htr630 with 100w rms for stereo, will they be able to drive them with good potential sound quality?

[@NemoPropaganda]

Sorry I'm not familiar with that model Yamaha but I'm sure it will be okay.

[@michaeln6735]

@@NemoPropaganda thanks for your reply, sorry it’s the Yamaha htr-6030

[@Audiodote]

Please do review elac uni-fi 2.0.....

[@NemoPropaganda]

I will try, next elac will be a revisit of the DBR62

[@firebladeclements]

Sorry bud, that was like listening to my ex, I'm out

[@NemoPropaganda]

I genuinely do not understand what you're saying. I don't mind snooty comments but at least explain them, like you left a comment so I'm sure you want me to at least understand it right?

[@firebladeclements]

Bud I shouldn't have posted that, but that's how I felt at that time. It seemed you were arguing with yourself and a non present reviewer. I had to stop as I was getting pissed off. For me this format doesn't work. My issue not yours. Apologies. That said, I have learned a ton from you on subs and such in your normal format, and is greatly appreciated!

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@firebladeclements It's okay bro, I can't be everyone's cup of tea, thank you for explaining, I was genuinely curious. I do like this format, it's a lot more fun for me and it's something different. The reality is my previous style was just Zero Fidelity Junior which isn't a bad thing but this is more my style. I will still use the traditional format occasionally when it makes sense like if I am the first person to review something then I will have no choice of course.

[@firebladeclements]

Nemo I enjoyed the first one you did in this format, this one was different. You seemed more uptight and..... yah.

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@firebladeclements you're probably feeling that I just didn't enjoy the speaker, it's hard for me to hid it when I really don't like something. I definately wanted this review to just be done and over with so I can get back to enjoying the Polk R100, now that's an awesome speaker!

[@nonametofame]

Velodyne...:)

[@joshdekubber3631]

Sup bro

[@NemoPropaganda]

sup big guy

[@joshdekubber3631]

@@NemoPropaganda just chilling on your Discord

[@NemoPropaganda]

@@joshdekubber3631 oh shit i forgot to put the discord link in this video

[@joshdekubber3631]

@@NemoPropaganda Get it!!!!