Elcan Specter 1x/4x 556 - Double Prism All The Wayyy

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This Elk Inspector.... Or Elcan Spector if I take my time pronouncing it. Was Graciously sent in by Dave over at Advanced Technologies Inc, or ATI for short. He was also the person that sent the SAI 6 in for review as well ( • The King - SAI 6 1-6x2... ) which is still one of the best FFP 1-6 LPVO's Ive gotten my hands on. This is a optic that if your interested in, you already know what your getting. And your probably not going to spend the time researching it. Your just going to go out there and get it. For anyone else that isnt sure if this is right for them or not. The best way to view this is to understand its a Terrific 4x prism, and a very good 1x prism. This functions best at 4x, left there and practiced with there. With the ability to give you a very good 1x performance if you needed it. Its extremely well built and if its good enough for military use, then its good enough for me.
00:00 - Unboxing
09:53 - Garage
11:35 - Reticle Overview
13:00 - Turret Twistin'
13:51 - Mount ReZeroing
15:08 - Rooftop Day
17:55 - Rooftop Dusk
18:39 - Smallbore
20:08 - Front Lens Glass Exploration
21:07 - Eyebox
22:00 - Comparison Steiner S432
22:58 - Comparison Vortex Spitfire HD 5x
24:00 - Comparison Steiner P4Xi
25:00 - Final Thoughts
#fpr #firstpersonshooter #elcan #repew
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[@mattkemerait]

Family at Thanksgiving dinner: "Whatcha watching?" Me: "A 30 min C_does review of an optic I'll never buy."

[@Hoplopfheil]

For a second I thought you dubbed in HL1 sound effects for the killflash removal bit.

[@CDOES]

It Does sound like the gate opening!

[@TerminalM193]

Hahaha! That actually would have been great!

[@xen9254]

Wait two weeks ago he commented!? Exclusive early access?

[@SinginShooter]

Patron.

[@colerogers6816]

HOP, I hop would care to hear what you had to say on the elcan he loves to hate it

[@MGMan37]

I hope Primary Arms makes their own budget version using their new microprism tech.

[@mrs.vasquezz]

Id buy

[@Kevin117]

What they need to make is a micro 4 or 5x prism with a rmr mount on top.

[@The_PotionSeller]

@@Kevin117 honestly this. A micro 4x with an adapter plate on top would be pretty baller

[@ailill5458]

I think they kind of implied something like that was coming, but we'll see.

[@pd5156]

@@Kevin117 This.

[@kobecochrane7113]

You literally are the only proper reviewer of scopes idk how you haven't blown up. Keep going man you might have just helped me choose my first scope

[@geebeaux]

This would be an insane first scope.

[@DonaldJohnsonsDick]

Worth it, this is my second optic. 1st was a Primary Arms SLx 1x on a PSA GF5 AK, and just purchased the Elcan Specter DR 1x-4x from Optics planet. They got a great deal on there's for a little under $1800 new in box. I just put mine on a Polish Beryl rifle. Worth every penny! Just need to train with it and it'll be the best optic you can buy for CQB/mild long range shooting. Best optic for SHTF too, etched reticle so your optic will still work after batteries are no longer available.

[@CDOES]

Appreciate it mate!

[@Debald]

Love the detail and articulate reviews. Keep them up 👍🏼

[@bme43713]

I still can't believe your channel hasn't blown up yet. Great videos for everyone to understand. Technical but not out of reach for any gun owner to comprehend

[@CDOES]

Thank you kindly my friend! Maybe one day

[@juanislas4804]

one of the best scope review videos I seen, keep it up.

[@caseyf2453]

I had an elcan I bought used that the illumination started flickering on at the ~1k rd mark. Even though it was used, Elcan took care of me and had great communication throughout the whole process and a fast turnaround time given that it had to go to Canada through customs. Maybe the warranty isn't as unlimited as vortex's or others but I can absolutely vouch for their CS and they will work with you. Meanwhile, my brand new holosun AEMS has been at holosun for over a month before firing a shot and getting in contact with them is a massive pain in the ass.

[@grantgeschwentner3179]

I could really go for a list of the better LPVOs/Optics you've reviewed in like an excel spreadsheet or something, would be super helpful.

[@navyman8903]

Strong work as always. I might end up with one of these because of the reticle. But that eyebox is tight.

[@borkwoof696]

Imagine spending big money on getting these to equip your army and then ordering them with the G36 reticle. Classic Bundeswehr move. That being said, the concept behind the Specter is super cool and deserves more development.

[@Ilost11]

It's interesting that the Bundeswher bought Elcan specters when the currently procured Hensoldt 4x30 and 4x30i are absolutely fantastic. A lot of NATO militaries didn't purchase the dual role variant, but only the 4x fixed which sort of defeats the purpose. At least the Germans purchased the DR variant. Still seems like a general waste of resources when current the current Hensoldt 4x30/4x30i are in service.

[@DZ4295DBW]

The Tri-FOV variant is neat. 1x, 3x and 9x to boot.

[@jonny2954]

@@Ilost11 Apparently they chose the Elcan for a different reason. Look up TILO-6MA. Their SOF already have them, rumors say all combat arms personnel will get them issued. It utilizes the killflash thread on the front for mounting and requires a 1x setting because the TILO does the magnification digitally when its used.

[@xen9254]

This thing is hefty hefty but pretty much bomb proof. Thanks for the overview!

[@GLAJMAN]

Great review man! Thank you! Can't wait for you to get that ACOG.

[@Damanjodan]

Awesome, thorough review. I've been blessed in my work to have the choice of an excellent assortment of rifle optics, both for close work and longer engagement ranges. I just keep coming back to the ELCAN. It's easier and quicker to zero, it holds its zero even with rough treatment, good for close work, good for longer work, good for passive shooting under nods. It's just a good, reliable all-around optic. Still my go-to after more than a decade.

[@Wafftop]

Love this optic and your channel

[@pkdude5334]

I just joined your lowest tier Patreon. I've never donated to anyone's Patreon before, but your optics reviews are the best on the internet in my opinion. That's well worth a buck to me. 👍🏽

[@GTWGamer]

I'd love to see a video covering the 1.5-6x. Great video as always

[@BigL00ch]

Great video, great review. Subbed for the effort.

[@adamjones1641]

fantastic review

[@C_oprator89]

We all could use a Dave in our life.

[@drugEninjamonkey]

Man I like this reticle style.

[@rustynut1967]

If I had deep pockets one would be on my 16" AR. Great video as always!

[@canyonfox45thisismygoodsid68]

Fancy Damn! Mine came in a plain brown box with just a booklet. I put mine instantly on my MCR and it was already zeroed, I didn't have to adjust it at all. Unexpected but fuck I'll take it. Great if you can afford em

[@oliverbrown3961]

Love this review, you remind me of Lock Picking Lawyer but for scpopes!

[@sbgutta3047]

I would love to see a review of the Nightforce NXS 2.5-10x42, especially since there are so few MPVO options out there that aren’t oriented towards hunting.

[@castawayvolleyball2412]

Perfect length for my morning coffee. Newt says Shallom!

[@joquin4618]

2k and it only comes with a 3 year warranty? Wtf 🤬!? I mean, I like my Canadian neighbors but dang, step up that customer service! 😝 Happy thanksgiving to all.!

[@borkwoof696]

Anecdotal evidence and everything but I‘ve heard good things about their customer service.

[@charmingmander331]

It's literally good enough for government work and a pretty standard optic for SOCOM.

[@joquin4618]

@@charmingmander331 I mean, for 2k I hope it is! Just was expecting lifetime warranty for 2k tho

[@whiskeyonetwoactual1116]

Great vid!

[@pb7087]

My unit was given one of these in 2007 for T&E. Before its first patrol, it got fine sand caught in the elevation adjustment mechanism and it just wouldn’t budge. Couldn’t get it working again. It never left the outpost. It has taken me a long time to come back around to the optic since that experience, but it has clearly proven itself since then.

[@arnesmith3122]

That’s crazy! I had one in 2011 afghan and it was amazing. I preferred it over the acog.

[@pb7087]

Yeah, I think it was a freak fluke. And I also think they made improvements over time. It definitely shaped my opinion for a long time though, until I saw enough positive feedback. I’m glad it worked out you and so many others.

[@Ilost11]

I'm extremely happy to see this optic in for review. One of my personal all-time favorites in my optic collection, the glass on 4x is absolutely phenomenal. I would just mention that the ARMs levers loosen overtime and are sized for mil-spec rails which not all receivers fall into spec for. They're fine new, but lots of complaints exist after years of use. Not really a problem for the military as the armorer can readjust them. One can upgrade to MKII ARMs levers to fix the issue somewhat, but it is a shame they aren't included at this price point. The battery compartment for the CR2032 variant can have loose contact too and should be better built for the price range. Your review is top notch as always. I would not bother with the 1 & 6 DR and 1 & 3 & 9 TR Elcan variants. For whatever reason they aren't optically as competent as their smaller brother. They're not bad, but the Elcan 1 & 4 DR seems to be the most coherent, refined and optically impressive of all the designs. I'd love to see a slight refresh or new design by Elcan, but I don't think it will happen soon as military contracts are still forthcoming.

[@miamicannon]

Amazing, in-depth review…nothing else like it. Any chance for a review of the Elcan 1.5x/6x ?

[@mattberry4457]

i have a very early ta01 and fairly early ta31 if you would like an acog to review. the ta01 is like new and the ta31 has been through a lot. both are a joy to look through. so much that i put them on 22s so i can use them more. the 556 reticles ranging works well for 22s. for standard velocity devide the distance by three and high velocity devide by two.

[@horizon04]

Thank you for the video! I would like to see a review on the SIG BRAVO4 Battle Pack.

[@geebeaux]

Tenebraex* Ten-a-bro Nuclear* New-cle-ur You're killin me C!

[@CDOES]

I got a big ole' fat tongue and a chiquito brain lol

[@bman7036]

I was issued the 1-4 Ekcan from 2010 to 2017 and used it in AFG. I liked it. Wish I could justify one now. Used it as a RDS but had the 4x when I needed it. Issues I saw with mine or others; Arms Lever break off, Battery cap feels tight/ illumination flickers until tightened more, buis break off. For a 16" or less barrel length catbine,carbine,, I think its better than a LPVO. I own 2 LPVO.

[@geebeaux]

You like the 1x better on the Elcan than a Vortex Razor? Or just overall a better package?

[@bman7036]

@geebeaux I don't have a Razor. I have a PA Raptor and a Swampfox 1-8. Both work great. For me a scope even on 1x is not a RDS. The Elcan on 1x is a RDS and a 4x capability. Wish I had one now.

[@bman7036]

I should have clarified. A RDS is much faster at close ranges 3-50M for my use. Therefore the Elcan is faster for target acquisition in CQB IMHO.

[@holdernewtshesrearin5471]

Love the Elcan. If i was going into battle especially in urban environments it would be the one. But for more of a rural battlefield with some door kicking too id go with an LPVO. Ditto for civy duty.

[@florianscherer3448]

Nice cars you have in your garage...

[@__K__B__]

The ARMS QD levers are made out of essentially pot metal. I bought a set of ARMS rings and the QD lever sheered in half the first day I had it. I would never trust them again.

[@mrs.vasquezz]

Its incredible what garbage the military has used for 40 years

[@HariboStarman]

Is that what the ELCAN has?

[@MMOchAForPrez]

Fantastic! I'm looking at using this for my 556 rifle. Hoping it'll last a long ass time. The build I was going for was something I won't have to replace or upgrade for years down the line, and I think this would tidy it up nicely

[@geebeaux]

How often do you normally replace the guns you have?

[@TerminalM193]

This optic will practically outlast your rifle.... If anything happens to it the QC is amazing.

[@tasjan9190]

The Elcan is the best combat optic in the world and it's built like a MBT. Well worth the investment.

[@ponraul1221]

I’d love to see a review of the Elcan TR 1/3/9. There’s only two actual reviews on KZbin from years ago. It’s my dream optic

[@kevinalmgren8332]

I’ve had an older generation Elcan for a while now. The glass quality is excellent and the illumination is great. That said, for most use, I just leave it off. On a side note, these are actually pretty good under night vision goggles.

[@kevinalmgren8332]

Also, it’s worth noting that the form factor on this is actually quite compact for what it is. It takes up a lot less rail space than a lot of other LPVO/mount combinations. On something like a Mk18 with a 10.3” barrel, this thing is excellent because it fits cleanly on the upper receiver. It feels most at home on my 14.5” AR-15, where the magnification levels match up very nicely with the barrel length. Jeff Gurwitch of Modern Tactical School (check out his channel) talks about this optic a lot in his History of the SOPMOD Block II video, which is really in part an “early history of military optics and the gradual shift into military use of LPVO’s by way of SOCOM.” He said that the Elcan is probably responsible for more on target rounds down range than anything else in the Block II program, and I’m inclined to believe him

[@dshall442]

Dammit C! I don’t have time for this today… yet here I am ignoring my wife and kids!

[@aahhronismyname8068]

First time seeing an elcan from a 1st person pov. Looks great. But at 2k, might as well get an acog with RMR. 50k battery life. Or a holosun 509t since its enclosed and titanium.

[@afwaller]

The great thing about the 509T is you have to use 27 plates to mount it like stack of wobbly pancakes

[@undergroundupholstery]

Give me this old Tony vibes. Good stuff

[@tonymickens8803]

Best Damn Combat Optic EVER Period!!!!

[@frankensteincreations4740]

No clue if you’ll get this… Wanted to let you know I found a scope in this Black Friday add from bass pro shop. Original msrp of $249.99. Cabela’s covenant ar 1-8x24. Skeptical to no end when I saw it was $100 off for Black Friday $149.99!!! Asked the gun counter clerk to see it… Blown away! Said can I see the strike Eagle 1-6? Looked like a tasco in comparison… Burris rt6? Like a tasco in comparison! Said can I see the viper pst gen 2? Finally a $600 scope was comparable to a $249.99 scope!? I would love to see you get one. Absolutely amazing for what it is. Turrets are positive as a speed bump, and zero play in them! It seems too good to be true. So I bought it lol.

[@bakedandsteaked]

That garage goes kinda hard tho

[@wanderfwd]

Great review, how would you compare it to a acog?

[@outboardprsnlstndup]

These things are always so tempting, despite being so niche/esoteric, etc

[@Countryguy5967]

I wish I could afford this optic!

[@ryaniam22]

Looks really good optically compared side-by-side with most everything in cdoes other videos. Really awesome optic

[@ryang8040]

I sure I'm not the only one who's subscribed that has an ACOG maybe one of us could let you borrow it lol

[@CH-ce5jv]

Would gladly send mine in. Have the ta31-ch with dual illuminated rmr

[@nicksmishmash]

came for the review, stayed for the "piew piews"

[@arnesmith3122]

They’re amazing optics, used a Elcan in afghan. They’re tanks!

[@CDOES]

Love me some tanks!

[@fr3d_fly351]

… a love letter to quality glass

[@TerminalM193]

Meh.... I didn't get to look through the optic for long but atleast got to incorporate some live fire through the optic. It's nice glass but far from 2k + glass. The 1x looks like a better LPVO but the 4x is pretty rough, especially if you compare to acogs, any high end LPVO and hell, even the trijicon tr24 has a better 4x. What I didn't like most was how much of the scope body took away from the 1x.

[@Ilost11]

​@@TerminalM193 I don't know if you're stupid, but this far exceeds any LPVO or Trijicon for that matter. The 1x is good, but the 4x is phenomenal on the Elcan. Elcan in case you aren't aware is Ernst Leitz Canada. They have deep roots from top tier cold war optics manufacturing. They are now owned by Armament Technology Incorporated. Which under their umbrella has Tangent Theta. One of the best if not the best scope manufacturers with ZCO, S&B and March Optics. Even tenured optics reviewers like the Dark Lord Optics (Ilya Koshkin) states that this is optically the best all of the top tier 4x prism sights on the market and he has tested them all. If you knew anything you would at least make reference to top tier brands. Trijicon is far from the best and the glass on TR24 is good, but far from this class. The glass on the 4x Elcan fixed or DR well exceeds my Trijicon ACOGs by miles.

[@TerminalM193]

@@Ilost11 Like I stated, I didn't get much time behind one and it was a sample size of just 1. They've had a series of QC hiccups over the years so this could be a possibility but I doubt it because it was still clean glass with good transition. The 4x was good but not acog good. I'd like to actually get more time behind one, maybe an entire carbine course but for 2k + that's rather doubtful. Even used models are around 1700-1900 bucks. I would maybe contemplate purchase if it wasn't for how chonky the scope body looked under 1x. It felt like an actual distraction. I did love how bright the red dot on it was though.

[@MyLonewolf25]

I wish someone would review its bigger brother the 1.5x 3x 9x version

[@EaziD]

The pew pews alone earned the like and subscribe lol

[@James-tp4nc]

Trained and deployed with this, I guess I took it for granted, along w a lot of the other stuff including my nightforce ATACR. How am I supposed to hit anything w a burris?

[@HariboStarman]

Any chance you’ll get your hands on a TA02 ACOG? That would be this optic’s closest competitor

[@bornfree180]

There is a new MPVO 1-12 roger Berra has one he just reviewed would like to see what your thoughts are on one maybe you could score one for the channel looks very interesting

[@CUZ_2]

When I seen your car collection I knew this was out of my price range but thanks for the "pew pew" laughs. Hopefully, you were 'trying' to be funny. 🤣

[@maxfortune4466]

The BDC is great. I could hit a torso plate from 700m with the 2nd shot.

[@theamazinglandshark]

Night vision scope reviews?? Really looking forward to you reviewing an ATN Thor series scope

[@19Clutch69]

I wish they updated this optic

[@brandonparrett2436]

I hear everyone talking about the used market for optics. I just can’t find anything worth even looking at. Am I looking in the wrong places?? Do I have to download facespace for the market in question???

[@jonathansilvera7088]

Do you have any plans on reviewing the Meopta Meosport R 3-15x50?

[@Castellan_Chris]

Wonder when they shot up in price? I bought one brand new from eurooptics in 2020 for $1700. At that time they could be bought pre owned for around $1300-1400. I really love the Elcan its very nostolgic but not at 2k though. The ARMS mounts and poor eye relief sucks. 🤷‍♂🤷‍♂

[@jockey0034]

Have you really missed the supply chain shutdowns, lock downs, and 30% inflation making literally every thing more expensive?

[@pupfriend]

Pew pew

[@TacticalAccountants]

I’ve got a TA31 RCO A4 I could do without for a few months if you want to borrow it.

[@silencia08]

Pew pew 🔫

[@nathan_k]

Windage on the Vortex Razor UH-1 (Gen2) is also external. You can wobble it by grabbing and "twisting" the optic. And grit can get under the screw. Can you do the same thing with this ELCAN?

[@CDOES]

This Does have some wobble in it if you grab it and twist! I should of mentioned that :(

[@MMOchAForPrez]

Great catch. This is why I love C_DOES' community

[@RandomPerson-ie6cl]

It mentions this in the manual, there are springs that return it to zero.

[@nathan_k]

@@RandomPerson-ie6cl I just read the manual on B&H Photo's website, it makes no mention of this. May I ask what page?

[@RandomPerson-ie6cl]

@@nathan_k The manual I'm referencing is a 2017 edition. B&H Photo's copy might be a different one that's older. My manual doesn't have page numbers but it does have numbered chapters and subsections. The part about the optic moment is under subsection 1.1 Description. I'm not sure I'm technically allowed to quote the sentence directly, but I'll try to paraphrase the words: There are anti-backlash springs in the integral mount which will allow for some sight movement under hard use. They'll always return the optic to its zero.

[@madbomer72]

I’d like to see how this thing works with nods I’ve heard the light transmission is great

[@allenmurray3981]

It works well. The 32 mm objective lens allows enough light transmission to mount a -14 behind it and still be effective. Not so well when helmet mounted, unless you use a riser under the Elcan, but the Eotech will still be better.

[@faltomjager5823]

If you’re gonna look at the Elcan, just do a TA31 and get it over with.

[@kevingnomen6092]

Man I wish I could afford an Elcan haha

[@sharpshiell]

Omg the weight

[@charlesaferg]

What are your thoughts on the 1.5-6x version?

[@allenmurray3981]

No explanation of the reticle, or the range-finding elements within the reticle? My experience-yes, the glass is EXCELLENT. You can't touch this quality in an LPVO without spending big money as well. The speed of magnification change cannot be beat, all while keeping your cheek weld. Go ahead and get the MK II levers from ARMS-they will work better and allow usage on out-of-spec rails and prevent breaking the levers on rails that are on the wide side of spec. Again, the glass is ridiculously good, and it can't be overstated how much more important that is than total magnification-the ELCAN gives better resolution at 4X than many mid-tier LPVOs do at 6X.

[@Quality_Guru]

When you said 2 grand I was shocked? Who is buying one of these, and why?

[@dougtalbert7355]

Is the Steiner P4Xi still your favorite?

[@charmingmander331]

ARMS mount being better than a LaRue mount lol. That's a first. If you damage the rail with a LaRue mount it's because you didn't adjust it properly

[@Marc-qo1li]

Still looking and doing research to buy my 1st LPVO. Budget is about 600 max. Not a fan of the primary arms. Just don’t like the reticle. Any suggestions. Just want to one and done

[@frankholub4673]

Vortex Viper PST Gen 2

[@stuckincommiefornia]

I am unable to find the MOA or MRAD values for the BDC on this scope online (even looked at a PDF of the manual). Does anyone have any idea where I can find this information? Want to see if this can work with M193 and a 12 - 16 inch barrel.

[@maxfortune4466]

The only info I could find is that it is calibrated for 62gr from a 16“ barrel.

[@stuckincommiefornia]

@@maxfortune4466 me too; maybe I'll use the moa drops for that as an rough estimation of the drops on the bdc. It won't be exact but maybe it'll be enough, unless I want to reach out to the manufacturer.

[@HariboStarman]

I think the ACOGs with Piggyback red dot (like a Holosun, not an RMR) combo is probably the best option on the market for a jack of all trades optic setup. When will we see you get your hands on that?

[@mhhh7721]

I like offset reddot more because you can keep your cheekweld when switching

[@watchmestress4182]

I would totally have an Elcan if they cut the price and weight in half

[@cstism]

This range upstate NY?

[@freshofftheplane]

Can you please test 1.5-6x too?

[@JumCuggler]

If I want to send in an optic for review, how would I go about doing that?

[@CDOES]

Reddit would be the best.

[@axle1717]

This was very close to being my choice of optic. But I went with an EOtech and a 3x magnifier instead, as I Love the Eotech dot, it's extremely small and being paired with a magnifier as a holographic sight keeps that 1 moa dot extremely tiny under magnification

[@JC101Zero]

Isn't that weight alot less too with that setup?

[@randomidiot8142]

Eotech lies about their holographic reticle stuff. Holograph or red dot behaves the same in front of a magnifier. I have both. Either my unit is defective because it doesn't work as advertised or Eotech is lying. They're lying. It functions the same as a ffp scope contrary to the claims. If Eotechs claims were accurate, their bdc reticles would be inaccurate under magnification or not under magnification. It's physically impossible for a magnifier to do what Eotech claims.

[@righteousone8454]

Literally looked at it yesterday in person, and suddenly Google knows what I looked at. They are spying on us. Also...wouldn't purchase it for 1000. Eyebox is so tight, and this thing is as heavy as a brick. I looked at 1.5x/6x variant

[@paperangel244]

ARMS mounts better than Larue? LMAO. What year is it?

[@JMane3000]

Nice optic but not worth 2k not even close

[@hpph1744]

The PewPew sold it for me.

[@troyelder56]

Holy hell at that weight why not go LPVO 😂

[@Khyeef]

Because lpvo and mount weightthe same and often weigh more. You can just go off the weight of the lpvo because it doesn’t include mount weight, but the ELCAN does.

[@forestgiest1380]

If it was either lighter or cheaper I’d get it. But until then, no.

[@zulubravo9434]

ARMS levers are horrible.

[@TerminalM193]

Weird.... Says video was uploaded 24min ago but comments say 2 weeks+

[@riskyflash6812]

Because Patreon donors get to see videos early

[@TerminalM193]

@@riskyflash6812 ahhh that explains it then, ty!

[@raydelfa1125]

$2000. Optic and a 1 dollar box ! Wtf

[@conradboisvert6730]

Wolly crap that like $4000 to $3000

[@Saltyketchup688]

Ill trade you my acog 3.5 and rmr w/ mount for that elcan