Swampfox Arrowhead 1-10x24 - A Better LPVO or a MPVO?

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This 1-10x24 LPVO is only, ok. The eyebox is far to tight, the overall feel is that of sub par materials, and soulless manufacturing. The illumination is pretty weak (albeit good for green). And its heavy at 20oz... But, The glass is sharp from 1 to 10, the turrets are nice and the thing seems to track extremely well... When we view this as a MPVO (Medium Power Variable Optic) It starts to make a lot more sense...
It goes from being needing to be really good at 1x, to just acceptable. It goes from needing bright red dot like illumination, to just needing enough in darker environments. It goes a heavy porker, to a more acceptable weight. It all just seems to be a better suited optic for intermediate ranges, while having the ability to do close work ok. Very similar to a 2-10. In that roll. Its honestly brilliant. As long as your not looking for something that will feel special. Or be able to withstand a bomb.
0:00 - Laundry Surprise
2:16 - Reticle Overview
3:12 - Turret Twistin'
3:42 - Tracking Test
5:00 - 30-400y
9:23 - 50y Range
11:22 - Eyebox Test
12:49 - 100-320y Range
15:33 - Garage & Final Thoughts
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[@SwampfoxOptics]

Sorry in advance this comment is so long. 1. OMG OMG! I'm so old I remember upgrading to a 56k modem so I could "lower my ping" and get better latency playing Half Life multiplayer over dial-up in the late 90s. So this was the best intro ever for me. 2. Tomahawk has the same glass quality and coatings but a slightly older optical design. A bit more eye relief, a bit less field of view, similar overall optical characteristics. Not quite as tough as Arrowhead and missing some features such as locking turrets and an "off" detent between brightness settings. Basically we took what we learned from Tomahawk and used it as the springboard for Arrowhead. 3. "True 1x" perception can be affected by position of the adjustable ocular lens. Screwed down right all the way clockwise, you'll get some negative magnification. Unscrew it all the way open, you'll get some added magnification. It's closest to "perfect" in the middle of it's travel but everyone's eyes are different, so sometimes people tell us they are getting either + or - mag at 1x, depending on how their eye perceives it. If your camera didn't pick it up, I bet it's because you had the ocular set near the middle of it's travel (because cameras have perfect vision this is usually best for reticle focus when filming through the optic). I've found this to be true in general for adjustable ocular optics, and not just for our stuff. Anyway, we tried our best to make it a true 1x for as many folks as possible. 4. Eyebox on a 1-10x will always be tighter at max magnification than on a 1-6x at max magnification. Basic exit pupil calculation is objective lens diameter divided by magnification, so any 1-6x24 will have a bigger exit pupil at 6x than a 1-10x24 will have at 10x, given the same 24mm objective lens diameter. Doesn't matter how much you spend, you can't beat math. With ANY 1-10x, I would do exactly what you said in the middle of the video-- at 10x I'm only using it supported, on a bipod, sandbags, whatever. If I'm using 10x I'm shooting past 200 yards. If I'm shooting past 200 yards at 10x magnification and I'm standing unsupported, eyebox is only one of my worries at that point and I probably need to find something to lean myself and the rifle up against for stability. I can hit at 300y standing unsupported with Arrowhead at 10x, but mostly just to prove it can be done. It's a LOT of magnification and every breath waggles the reticle around madly when you are unsupported. 5. This is one of my favorite reviews of any of our products ever and just so your audience knows, it was a total surprise to us. I don't even have a valid email address for you. If you want to review anything else that we make, I'm happy to send you an example and will not seek to control anything you say in the review in exchange for your review. Email [e-mail] and just say you want to talk with Swampfox Mike, no problemo. --Mike

[@chris.t1629]

You’re a good man Mike. I have yet to try any of your products, but trust me when I say I’m keeping a close eye on the company. I really appreciate your transparency and enthusiasm which shows you’re like one of us, a fellow fan/consumer/etc. I’m looking forward to the Warhorse and might very well make that my first purchase into the SwampFox brand!

[@SwampfoxOptics]

@@chris.t1629 We were joking at SHOT Show that the convention is full of gun nuts who are trying to learn everything they can about how to do business, and also businessmen who are pretending to know something about guns. It's pretty obvious which one I am. LOL Warhorse is gonna kick Arrowhead's ass. Eventually... --SF Mike

[@josiahb55]

Great response! Would love to see C_does get his hands on Warhorse :)

[@philthy5058]

I commented on another video and I'll say it again here, swampfox Mike was hands down the nicest guy at shot show

[@CDOES]

Hey Mike! Thank you for that very thorough comment. Helping reinforce to many out there, myself included. That there is always a balance to everything. Optics especially! I will shoot you an email shortly to discuss some future projects! Thank you for reaching out!

[@justinpingman2049]

Hands down the best optics reviewer there is

[@peternystrom921]

100%

[@CDOES]

Pew Mother F#cking Pew!

[@mackies9151]

supersetCA #1 this is 2

[@shaolinwarriormark]

@@CDOES can you review swampfox warhawk 2-10x ? There isnt a video on it at all

[@Mithradates_of_Los_Angeles]

Yess no one is touching his review👏🏻👍🏻

[@average-titanium-enjoyer]

Love the review and the format man. Picked this up recently and I couldn't have found your review to be more accurate. My first entry in to LPVOs and I'm quite impressed.

[@actionjksn]

I have the BDC version and that eyebox is a beast. It does get better with practice and I plan to keep getting better with it.

[@timmydenning22]

Gotta agree with pingman, this is actually the best optic review I have seen. Even better than the popular guys that have channels. Real life and detailed optic review is what should be done but seems like you are the only one hitting the nail on the head. Amazing job man!!!

[@240SSONLY]

Yeah this man is doing gods work on here... superb reviews. Valid points, no BS, good criticism. You don't have to agree with everything, but he is an excellent reference point

[@MLS1000]

Just ordered one of these this week. Cant wait.

[@MrSlickback2]

I bought this because of Mike from Swampfox. He stands behind his products. He made me a fan when he was with Primary Arms. Also if you are having issues with near magnification. Turn the ocular lens. It should really help.

[@CDOES]

Mike reached out to me here, he seems like a solid guy! The OL was setup right for my eye, but no two eyes are the same.

[@p47rr]

He just started his own scope company.

[@MichaelAMyers1957]

​@@p47rr what's the name of it?

[@MadAColt]

Thanks for this 'Repew', you covered everything I was wondering about with this optic. You are appreciated.

[@CDOES]

Pew Pew!

[@mavrikmavrik3032]

I love your optics reviews, they are the best on KZbin!

[@johnlocke3481]

You are a very smart man, and I'm probably going to be commenting roughly this same thing on all of your videos. You've made me realize why all the other gun channels bug me; they are all ego's, sales pitches, and paid advertisements disguised as "friendly honest advice," instead of just letting us see and decide for ourselves. Your videos are fun, quiet and let me make fully neutral decisions. Thank you for bringing a level of integrity to the internet that I haven't seen in a very long time.

[@markymark9359]

This was one of the best optics reviews I have seen. Nice work!

[@CDOES]

Much obliged

[@contentcop]

First video iv seen from this man and I'm sold on his channel.

[@silvertree88]

Picked up a Swampfox Tomahawk 1-8x24 with the gorilla cross reticle and mount for $300 with their Leo/Mil 40% flash sale for an Ar-10. Can't wait to get it to the range. Just around the backyard it's impressed me so far

[@googlechicken]

I have the Arrowhead and this review is spot on. Image quality is fantastic for the price point,which makes the fact that the eye box makes it unusable for its intended purpose that much more frustrating

[@tommcfarland5368]

Like someone else said below.... Best optic reviewer on the KZbins. Thanks guy, we 💜 you.

[@CDOES]

TeHe!

[@rascal0175]

I’ve had one for 3 years and never looked back, second guessed my purchase or looked for anything better. Swampfox has great sales and deep discounts for the LE/MIL community. I have not noticed any issue at 1X, though I’m typically using a different rifle/optic at very close range. All in all, your review seems well done and fairly evaluated, though I never noticed anything that indicates the optic was slapped together. While not perfect in every respect, it appears to be more than the sum of its parts. Nicely done.

[@CDOES]

Its a scope built to a price point. Despite that it works well and is worth that price.

[@stillenacht8518]

This is the first 1-anything I have seen you review that could pick up the exhaust from that building at 400 at all, much less through close range mirage. That blur in the trees above the little stack on the right side is the same phenomenon as your open window in 20 degrees. Absolutely fucking stellar is right.

[@CDOES]

A fine optic indeed

[@KyleJohnsonVA]

I've been waiting for this review for quite a while, very glad to see it. It still seems impressive for the price, but I think you still managed to conclusively knock it off my list of optics to consider, as I am looking for something with a bit better 1X performance and eyebox. I'm probably going to end up with the DELTA Stryker HD 1-6x.

[@CDOES]

Cough *Credo HX* cough! (repew coming soon)

[@pharaun159]

Best review! Thank you!

[@fortysomething7667]

Best scoop reviewer on youtube hands down,no competition. I would love a video of the best scoop for $800. siince this is $500,show what that extra $300 gets you.

[@agridlife1495]

Excellent Review!!! Thanks

[@francismchu]

I bought one on sale at around $420. Definitely a great value and it blows the vortex strike eagles and primary arms SLx away.

[@CDOES]

Very good value!

[@darththork99]

That Half-Life skit in the beginning convinced me.

[@jsternberg]

Finally! I had to scroll so far to find someone talking about the Half Life intro. Blue Shift?

[@davepayne2024]

Fantastic review!

[@armyguyenglish]

Bought this a couple of months ago with the BDC reticle and got the Strelok Pro app to use as a BDC calculator. The app/optic pairing is killer! Swampfox also has amazing military deals as I got the Arrowhead 1-10 green BDC with one of their red dots (with shield) and hostile engagement rings (red dot can be mounted to offset) in a bundle that was on sale with military discount added on. About $1,000 worth for $538. Don't regret the purchase at all!

[@CDOES]

Its always nice to see companies that appreciate those serving this country. Thank you for your service.

[@GranTigerGaming]

How are you liking the BDC? I am sold on this scope but now just torn between BDC and MIL, I like the BDC layout but I like that the MIL also only lights up the center vs all the hashmarks on the BDC.

[@armyguyenglish]

@GranTigerGaming I absolutely love it. The hash marks don't bother me at all. Looking forward to trying out a first focal plane optic from Swampfox...

[@markn4526]

@@GranTigerGaming I'm still deciding on which brand of LPVO to go with but I'm leaning heavily towards the Swampfox 1-6x. I prefer the MIL reticle in red to the other options. I think it's all personal preference, but for me the crosshair MIL reticle is more useful.

[@GranTigerGaming]

@@markn4526 awesome. I went with a primary arms 1-10 mil, I love the Primary Arms ACSS reticles in general, and the 28mm lens is more forgiving then most 24mm lvpo's. Agree on mil, after researching I am just sticking to mils, a lot of mil scopes have BDC-like ranging features as well.

[@BowWowPewPewCQ]

Wow, I have to comment. I am researching a purchase and "stumbled" across this review. It is extremely refreshing to find a professional and objective review. I was a little doubtful in the beginning after the "reminds me of Doom" audio sequence, but not a big deal and you made up for it. Then the Swampfox comments were also respectful and professional. I wish every reviewer and manufacturer, of anything, would take notice. Kudos. Sadly, I now exit back to the world of loud intros, spin, and childish remarks. I will be back.

[@AceFalken]

Bought one of these recently to put on a Grendel AR for hunting and some decent range plinkage since there's a private range with a really long ranges in my area. Eye box is okay. At 1x it actually preformed pretty well at the makeshift flat range. Haven't really tried long range yet because of the cost of that range and the limited availability and I'm not making enough to warrant the cost and time (yet). Everything you said is dead accurate. it is a great scope but the only concern I have with it is the warranty not being on par with some of the bigger manufacturers (50,000 rounds by honor system). Not bad by all means though.

[@jth_printed_designs]

I would love for swampfox to put out their 1-8x with low profile capped turrets. I have no real need for quickly adjustable turrets as a civilian, and really in this price range how many professionals are going to be using it for duty work? Having them externally adjustable is just a liability. Plus the 1-8 has a larger FOV on 1x and less of that tube effect. The 1-8x is overshadowed by the 1-10x, but the 1-8x is probably the better optic if you plan to use it as an LPVO.

[@CDOES]

I definitely agree. Give us a good reticle that we can adapt out setup for, and learn where itll impact at what distances.

[@dnaka2001]

I have both a Swampfix Arrowhead 1-10 and a Vortex Razor Gen III 1-10. The Arrowhead is surprisingly nice. At 10x, it’s clarity compares favorably against the Razor and a 2.5-10 Vortex Viper PST Gen I. At 1x, however, the nuclear bright illumination and reticle of the Razor makes it near red dot like. The Arrowhead is no match for it at close range. Your labeling of it as a MPVO is perfect. It is usable at 1x, but it’s strength is at medium range. I saw a review of the Athlon Ares ETR 1-10x that came to a similar conclusion about that scope. It has nice clarity and resolution at 10x, but is not as effective at 1x with close targets. The owner said it was more of a medium range optic with the ability to be used at close range when needed.

[@CDOES]

Absolutely agree on all points. Im sure their lower magnified variants can play that LPVO role better. But only time will tell.

[@nicsu2128]

I love my arrowhead 1-8. At 1x I don’t have a problem getting behind it. 8x it can be a struggle if it’s not resting on a stable surface. I have been thinking about swapping it for the Athlon Helos 2-12 which you gave a fantastic review. Or possibly the war horse which is swamp fox’s new FFP LPVO. Can’t wait to see your review of it.

[@lightningblade7544]

Freaking awesome. Watching the intro gave me chills like I was in some zombie apocolypse

[@CDOES]

More like a Resonance Cascade.

[@Mithradates_of_Los_Angeles]

👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻thanks for the great info I was really curious about this one!

[@Gunfighterfirearmsllc]

I bought the 1-8 because of your review and I do not regret the purchase!

[@markn4526]

Yup, I'm considering buying the 1-6x. That'll have all the magnification I'll need. How does yours feel to use and which reticle do you have?

[@josiahb55]

Great review! The tomahawks are a step down from the arrowhead by their own admisson. They are making a 1-10x24 FFP called Warhorse, which they say it's going to be the "step up" from Arrowhead, they have literally said-"We are making this Warhorse the best we possibly know how and are capable of doing right now", so that sounds right on with your wish. Hopefully you can get your hands on one when it comes out.

[@aidendelpino4613]

Swampfox is the company. Arrowhead and Tomahawk are is the model names.

[@josiahb55]

@@aidendelpino4613 Correct, typo

[@CDOES]

Seeing is believing. Only time will tell!

[@googlechicken]

I had one of these and was amazed by the build quality this thing is rugged and the overall fit and Finnish is superb for the price point. Having said that the eyebox is atrocious even at 1x maybe it’s just me but I really struggled to get behind it

[@mykesinger]

Awesome review! I think the weight for a 1-10x isn't that bad @20z. The Credo 1-8x is 25oz and Razor 1-10x is 21oz .

[@CDOES]

Its right in line for the market.

[@tubeaccess2760]

The rePew has to be my favorite optic review style

[@CDOES]

Pew Pew!

[@Minutes-Mils]

I have the 1-6× model, and its been nothing but fantastic for the money, I picked mine up for 400 with the mount included and it's never left my 16 inch AR. I've dropped it multiple times and never lost zero. Great FOV on 1x with meh illumination. The clarity on 6x is great, didn't feel like the Glass would be any good when pushed past 6x, but I have to say, the 10x is impressive at this price point. The only issue i had with it was the eyebox, just a bit finicky. Id say, wait for a sale somewhere before buying to increase the already high value this lpvo brings.

[@CDOES]

Good to hear! its impressive!

[@Minutes-Mils]

@@LCIsner20 and you're a party pooper, did daddy hit u growing up?

[@LCIsner20]

@@Minutes-Mils nope, but apparently I was drunk and decided to be a douche rocket. My apologies!

[@Zoo-Wee-Mama-Sq]

@@LCIsner20 all good bro. No worries.

[@ForceMultiplier]

This is a badass channel.

[@danielsmith851]

Like to see a comparison between the swampfox and sig sauer tango msr 1-10x

[@212driller]

Almost bought one but then a great sale came on for Bushnell srms 1-8.5 so I got it instead (still 1.5x the price of the swampfox). Thanks for the review, I've been looking forward to it.

[@CDOES]

How do you like the SRMS? Ive been wanting to get a Bushnell LPVO but havent come across the right deal.

[@ericmalmros1725]

Ok, best video intro Ever!

[@p47rr]

Well after watching this and another video. I bought one. Stock it on my Wasr 10. It is so easy to reach out to distance now. It’s not perfect. But it’s amazing over all.

[@mojo4376]

Should have been a FFP optic with caliber specific BDC reticles.

[@CDOES]

It may not hold up as well if it was. But I'd be very curious to try one out if they brought it to market

[@platinumcontent9]

True proffesional man.. lol you crap on it, but then you make it seem like it's a top tier product. Keep on the good work. I just came across your channel. I've got alot to catch up on.

[@justinm.791]

Another great video!!!

[@p6715576]

Hands down the best optics reviewer features all half life elementals!!!! let me guess,when do we go with hl2?

[@CDOES]

We are far from HL2... 6 years to be exact.

[@caseyf2453]

You should look into the Athlon Ares 1-10 FFP. I had one and this review reminds me of it. Super crispy 10x that I thought was better than my 1-10 razor but had an awful 1x that was more like a .8x and gave me double vision to use. Eyebox was actually pretty good and better than the razor imo.

[@SwampfoxOptics]

Confirmed. Got to play with the Athlon at SHOT Show last week and was blown away by how good it is for the money. C_DOES definitely needs to snag one. --SF Mike

[@CDOES]

They are pricey tho, It becomes a real thing to consider when spending near a grand on a optic which road to take. If I was specifically looking for a FFP LPVO, id sacrifice the weight and go Credo 1-8FFP on sale somewhere.

[@CDOES]

@@SwampfoxOptics I really appreciate you checking out your competition and giving them props where deserved! That shows a lot of class Mike!

[@caseyf2453]

@@CDOES Yeah that's pretty much what I ended up doing and replaced it with a PA PLx 1-8. The Athlon was like 760 out the door with their mil discount which is pretty good. If I didn't manage to snag the PA from their open box/blem sales for 850 out the door I might still have the Athlon

[@iamnitrox]

I'm impressed with that 1x

[@j.p.4541]

Fantastic review of the Swampfox Arrowhead 1-10x. Would you say the 1-6x scope has a clearer 1x sight picture (w/out any magnification) than the 1-10x?

[@mattsterpiecenjmaflva9956]

Hoping you get your hands in the FFP version when it comes out!

[@maxx236]

Great review. Currently considering the 1-8 or 1-10. I know your review is solely on the 1-10 model but I would like to know how the eye box compares at 8x vs 10x. Easier to look through and more forgiving at 8x or about the same as 10x?

[@CDOES]

As you step down with the multiplier, the easier and more forgiving it becomes. IE a 1-8/2-16 are 8x multipliers. 1-10/2-20 are 10x.

[@Jamesy1993]

Brilliant review and was hoping this one was coming soon. Just wondering if you have looked through the 1-6 and how the glass compares to the Strike Eagle 1-6 and eyebox as well.

[@CDOES]

Pew Pew! I havent not yet. But I would love to soon. If this gives us any idea on what to expect. A lower mag range would only improve upon the already impressive clarity.

[@Spartisman]

Hey great video. I am looking for a 1 to 10. I like this or the Athlon 1 to 10. Which do you think is better? Or do you have a better solution. Like to stay below a grand but could go as high as 1200. Any thoughts?

[@tacticalmattfoley]

Ok, this review sold me on SwampFox. I'm buying at least two now.

[@CDOES]

Baller!

[@tacticalmattfoley]

@@CDOES won’t be at the same time, friend. I build my ARs literally by buying one piece at a time. I take everything to a gunsmith and let them build and accurize the final product. It’s actually a better value in the end. Turns a 4K rifle into a 2.5K rifle. Looking for value and quality. Thanks for your review.

[@p47rr]

Just watched a Swampfox video on this optic. They lent two of these to a special forces group to try out at the range. The soldiers decided to take them with them when they were deployed. They didn’t break. And overall we’re pleased with them. The old saying don’t judge a book by its cover holds true. So even thought you question the build quality. I would say you’re wrong. The scope covers are one weak point. And I personally wouldn’t take one into battle. But then again when it came out there wasn’t to many options for a ten power. The soldiers did say they preferred a first focal plane. And that was the main complaint.

[@rascal0175]

Agreed. There should be a FFP option.

[@SeanTownsendStormrider]

In my opinion, Swampfox is on the verge of a great LPVO. I have the 1-6x and I think that is the sweet spot for a SFP LPVO like this. The problem is, their best reticle is the one you showed in this video and it's only available in the 1-10x. It was designed by Ilya the Dark Lord of Optics himself, and I think those stadia lines are a must and like mil based scopes. So, the 1-6 and 1-8 models are more forgiving, but have inferior reticles. I talked to Mike on a forum and he told me they will be bringing the mil reticle to the lower powered versions possibly this summer. I think that will make the Arrowhead 1-6 the absolute best LPVO in this price range.

[@Mithradates_of_Los_Angeles]

I believe they started offering this reticle on the 1 8 in green and red on optics planet which got me real curious and enthusiastic about maybe giving this a try. I like the illumination on the bdc holds which help the eye in the day since it’s not that bright. I want to pick one up and I’m wondering if the red will be alittle better for daytime? Also I love this reticle, but I’m not sure of its use for 1s close range shooting so I’m wondering how was your experience? I would love this for more mid range and longer distance stuff, but i think I need something that operates alittle better at 1X right niw in my life but I would hate to pass up on such a good deal on a mid range long range lpvo but I may have to put off picking one up until I finish my do all build. Hate the fact I have to do that Becuase I love this reticle….but I’m afraid it will not lend itself to 1X shooting squarely. How do you feel about it’s operation at 1X especially in daytime in a year round very sunny environment, would love to hear your thoughts

[@SeanTownsendStormrider]

@@Mithradates_of_Los_Angeles Red vs Green is individual preference and depends on how well you see the color spectrum. I always go red. Honestly, I had intended to get this once they offered it in the 1-6, but in the time it took them to bring it to market I buckled down and got the Vortex Razor 1-6. Once you get the Razor you stop shopping for LPVOs, it's everything that is claimed.

[@ryanpatton5937]

Look at the trijicon vcog 1x8 i love mine its rock soild and always ready the glass is the best that you can get hands down

[@CDOES]

It fucking better for the price!

[@leelopez596]

what has a better eye box? swampfox tomahawk or sig sauer msr tango

[@brandonrupp5880]

Can one of these companies please add parallax adjustment to their 1-10x scopes? My dream would be 1-10x30mm in a 34mm tube with locking elevation turret, that tracks properly, capped windage, side parallax, and illumination.

[@SinginShooter]

Nah. Just fix it at 125m/150yds.

[@brandonrupp5880]

I use a 2.5-10x32 all the time and beyond 300 yards the parallax starts to matter a lot more.

[@SinginShooter]

What targets/background?

[@brandonrupp5880]

Steel plates, milk jugs, coyotes, feral dogs... All kinds of stuff

[@CDOES]

STOP MAKING MY PP HARD! even a 1.5-15 would be awesome. Im trying to make a push for MPVO's. So hopefully some companies will see it and at least offer an options.

[@Scottyman99]

How would you compare this to the Vortex PST Gen II 1-6? Is it worth the additional price? I'm trying to decide between the Arrowhead 1-8 (assuming Swampfox is using the same quality glass as the 1-10) and the PST G2. Glass quality, eye box, FOV are priority.

[@ForceMultiplier]

Swampfox, Holosun, and Arken are going to take over the entire optics space...and in all categories.

[@linkchen8245]

They sacrificed the eyebox to the FOV which i think might be overdone but optical and mechanically it is really nice. Anything other than high speed dynamic shooting would be great fit

[@CDOES]

They struct a really nice balance here all things considered. Thus why as a MPVO its really good.

[@linkchen8245]

@@CDOES Yes I agree. just consider 1x as a bonus maybe LOL. I wish they come out if the FFP version of this or similar scopes. They also have a 2-12 scope I was really interested too.

[@frankensteincreations4740]

Do you think the arrowhead 1-8 would be any better than the 1-10? As far as the eye box goes, and the slight magnification on 1x..?

[@johnwilkerson5508]

So everyone’s talking about this thing’s eyebox at 10x. It’s the only thing keeping me worried about this optic, so I wanna know what I’m in for. How does the eyebox compare to prism scopes? Something like the ACOG 4x32, or the EOTech G33 (it’s a magnifier but c’mon… it’s a prism). if it’s on par with them, I can live with it. If it’s worse, I might go 1-8x and be happy w/ the compromise.

[@BornYooper]

You can get these for the low 300s on sale if you keep an eye out.

[@CDOES]

Which is absolutely absurd to think about.

[@MrAmj26]

Hope you can review the new Primary Arms SLX 1-10x28mm, I think you and SuperSetCa gives the best reviews on you tube, thank you and keep up the good work...

[@travismassengale4923]

Love the video.. u should make a video of ur top 5 lpvo scops

[@CDOES]

Im going to have to at this rate. I wasnt expecting so much positivity to my channel lately.

[@Venom2U]

I've been waiting on your assessment of this optic. I bought one of these (same reticule in red) last year and I was really disappointed. I wasn't expecting miracles in a 500 optic. But the issues mine had were a deal breaker for me, and I wound up returning it to optic planet. At 1x the magnification is VERY noticeable, especially once the diopter was set to my eye. Mine had quite a bit of fish eye as well. I can live with those 2 if that were the only problems I found. However, I found 3 additional items that were a deal breaker for me. #1 Like you noted, the eye box at higher magnifications is borderline unusable in anything except prepared supported positions. And being second focal plane that's where the reticule and turrets are accurate. So, the only time you can use either is when the optic is at its worse!! #2 Mine would sweep from in focus to out of focus to back into focus as you sweep the power up or down.......... BAD QC!! #3 Reticule design, Shame on you C_Does for not mentioning this. But the .5 and 1 mill hash marks are the same in the reticule and they're not delineated. So, IF your able to get behind this optic and want to use a hold, GOOD luck not getting lost in the reticule at any hold less then 5 mills............ And lastly my power ring was dragging/grinding on the tube as you sweep the power. Otherwise, it's a good-looking optic. And there are a lot of things to like about this 1-10. But for me, the usability and functionality issues were a deal breaker.

[@aruthmee]

thank you for actually helpful and detailed comment

[@Venom2U]

@@aruthmee Your welcome. I hope my insight added some value to C_Does's review. Personally, I think we're just pushing a 24mm objective too far at 1-10. Especially with a second focal plane reticule. Yes it can be done well, but its bloody expensive to do it. These days I'm getting more and more on board with the MVPO concept with an offset red dot.

[@CDOES]

@@Venom2U I do agree and appreciate the insight on your situation with it. The 10x multiplier is just too much for any sort of glass. Especially thru a 30mm tube. The Accupower was a great 1-8 because of many reasons. 1 of which was they bumped it up to a 28mm objective. Its not a perfect scope. I wouldnt trust my life to it if it came down to it.

[@TexasShotz]

I’ve got the 1-8 arrowhead in mildot… it’s the only LPVO I’ve ever had.. but I have friends with other more expensive LPVOs and mine blows theirs out of the water in every facet… the field of view is insane.. on the 1-8 and almost no scope shadow at all …

[@CDOES]

Im very excited to get my hands on their lower powered LPVO's for that exact reason.

[@noncompliant209cali]

I like when a lpvo has a slightly magnified 1x because it makes my vision clear to where I don't need glasses

[@lawyerup1time785]

I love you bro. 😜. Great review.

[@CDOES]

Better make sure my wife doesnt see that!

[@larrydecker881]

I like the arrowhead 1-10 and I’m hoping you can eventually try the helos gen2 btr 1-10. There’s not a lot info on it and on paper it looks legit

[@SuperShooterX]

Guy says "maintain radio silence", then proceeds to verbally disclose every action he is taking. 🤣

[@madmaxd1]

Excellent review... Strongly considering this optic to be mounted on to a SCAR17S... I've read several reviews where it actually does not become a victim to the platform's reputation of killing optics.. Any thoughts greatly appreciated, even from Mike.

[@CDOES]

Even if it did die from the scar, their warranty should cover it.

[@queenannesrevenge3770]

How did you keep the camera in the eye box the whole time?

[@CDOES]

Black Magic F#ckery.

[@tazmax72]

Does it come in a 1-4×24

[@gkt1127]

Viper pst gen 2 or this?

[@1LTNOE]

Hi I'm considering this Swampfever Arrowhead 1-10 or the Vortex PST Gen II 1-6 for my bolt action hunting rifle. Which would you recommend?

[@CDOES]

Only those two?

[@1LTNOE]

@C_DOES I'm open to suggestions, but the budget is around 500 USD and it has to be an LVPO. The Swampfox is available in my area (Northern Europe) and seems like a decent choice. I'm all new to the LVPO market, so I don't have a broad overview of the market.

[@channelnamehere4065]

Optics seem nice but it looks to me based on your video that the eyebox field of view of not that wide. The eyebox seems too thick - is that valid? When you compare against Leupold, for example.

[@CDOES]

Thick wouldnt be a word id use to describe a eyebox. It would be either narrow or wide. This is narrow due to the magnification range. The Gen III RHD suffered the same fate.

[@ultra-deplorable671]

Have you sold the scope?

[@esperjohnson446]

Where do you sale them at?

[@CDOES]

I dont have any direct website to sell multiple units. I post anything Im planning on selling to my Patreon page first, before going abroad.

[@PrimoPatzz]

I would really love to see a tomahawk review for what its worth!

[@Gunfighter5]

I just love the reticle style! Do you recommend any other LPVOs with crosshair reticles?

[@CDOES]

Leupold. Simple, American made. Great warranty. Good to go.

[@GranTigerGaming]

At 5:55 is that really on full brightness? It seemed so much brighter in the dimmer environment (obviously) and seems a bit brighter in other reviews.

[@ryang8040]

The reticle is a bit too thick for a second focal plane. Particularly the center dot, it does not offer a fine enough aiming point for more precise shots at distance. Thus hampering its abilities past 300 yards.

[@AceFalken]

I'd like to see a tierlist or document of rating the optics to help my simple brain decide on an lpvo for hunting. what optic would you suggest near the 500$ pricepoint near 1-10x range.

[@natewahl9873]

This one

[@CDOES]

If your specifically looking for a 1-10. Then the market doesnt have a very wide window for that. The next 1-10 above this is the Athlon, at nearly double the price.

[@AceFalken]

@@CDOES doesn't have to be true 1-10x but looking for an optic that's a do it all but mainly hunting up to 300 yards or so and thought 1-10x would handle that well as some long distance shooting occasionally.

[@ryaniam22]

I wonder if the longer range clarity is because the parallax is set at 250 yards instead of the usual 100 yards or something? If so they all should do that. I'd take clarity further away any day

[@CDOES]

I think they just spent the time to find a good sweet spot for all of the magnification range. Its nice to see them do that.

[@Cold.coffee.crew___]

Might be a stretch. But a look at the leupold mk6 1-6 if you can find one / get someone to let you review theres.

[@CDOES]

Nothing is short of probable, given enough things have lined up in the world. A Mk6 repew is in the works.

[@baron1c]

“To infinity, and BEYOND!!!”

[@CntBckt]

I really wish this reticle could be ordered on the 1 -6 variants. T_T Have you been able to try any of the LPVO configs aside from this one yet?

[@Creep5553]

8:26 pew!

[@JeffNeelzebub]

You should get the Mantis Blackbeard system so you can do laser shooting on your actual gun, add some fun "realism" for you "pew pew" larping in your warehouse.

[@CDOES]

I dont have this on a rifle. Its on a custom rig. I do live fire testing on all optics at the range.

[@SinginShooter]

4:06 Did I see a blip of windage when starting the 4-5 Mil up leg?

[@CDOES]

Its truly challenging to see simply because the lack of a side focus.

[@narb3h]

Can you do a Vortex Viper PST GEN II 2-10x32 FFP review?

[@Wlvrtnjm]

I have this scope in the red bdc variety. My reticle is really bright. The eyebox is really finicky though.

[@CDOES]

I want to try out different reticles and in red. The eyebox is just a product of it being a 1-10

[@Wlvrtnjm]

I bought it for an 18" hog slayer build. As long as you're not trying to transition from target to target on max magnification, it does fine.

[@CDOES]

@@Wlvrtnjm naturally. As a MPVO will be good at lol

[@Wlvrtnjm]

I was waffling between this and some 2-10ish offerings, so yeah mpvo tracks. The 1X on mine is really usable. I think I read somewhere that Swampfox uses dual emitters to get their reticles really bright. I'm enjoying your channel very much. I've ordered a PA gen IV LER 3x for my work gun based on your review. Keep them coming.

[@norfnorf6544]

Vortex viper or swamp fox arrowhead?

[@ericanderson524]

man if you could review a nightforce ATACR 1-8 i would be so happy

[@CDOES]

As would I friendo. As would I.

[@sharksisland9964]

I regret passing up on the 2021 Swampfox Black Friday deal for the Arrowhead bundles smh lol

[@CDOES]

Dont worry friendo. BF will be here again before you know it!

[@WeirdAmerica219]

The arrowhead is better in regard then a lot of other optics ! Waaaaaaay better and don’t get a greed led always red