ELD-VT vs V-Max

[@brentwinkelman1990]

Some twist rate specs would be nice...curious if there are gonna be bullet seating issues with that big hollow point section?

[@CarpeSus]

It would be nice if you were doing a video on comparing and contrasting two bullets that maybe you actually showed the two bullets and went over the specific differences and similarities relative to performance?? Hornady has a LOT of graphics that could be used. Just a thought

[@jesseiancassidy]

Just loaded some 22-250 with the 62 grain VT. But I also have a 26" barrel with a 1:8 twist. Hopefully they hold together. 35 grains of Varget.

[@Patton243]

Did you shoot these yet? I have a 1:9 twist 22-250 this bullet I was looking at with Varget too.

[@jesseiancassidy]

@@Patton243 yes I have one and it hit a jack rabbit at 130 yards first try. I need to test data but I was itching to just see how it worked. The Rabbit exploded and was dead on with my zero for other rounds

[@Patton243]

@@jesseiancassidy Thanks for info!

[@jesseiancassidy]

​@@Patton243I really wish I knew what speed I was looking at but didn't have any pressure signs and if I am in the 3500 to 3700 I want to know what it will max out at and still be reliable.

[@Patton243]

@@jesseiancassidy Get a Labradar. They're the most accurate for velocity readings.

[@MrAtlas40]

Unfortunately, my Tikka 223 Heavy barrel (1:8) does not like these. I've tried on 3 separate occasions with varying powder and they just would not come close to grouping. This barrel shoots 52gr ELD-M and Berger 52gr flat bases quite well. My match load uses 73gr ELD-M and this grouped very well on the same days I shot the ELD-VT. I like the VT concept, so I'm going to test the 6.5 (Creedmoor) and the 30 (30/06).

[@johnmarlin811]

give us the perfered twist rates !!!

[@texashankpalmer876]

Jayden, off subject, but it’s time to take the leap and go straight bald like my friend Seth here. You’d look badass brother.

[@2AToday]

I thought this when these videos came out. Jayden, you are a handsome man! You’d look AWESOME and badass with a shaved head! Go for it!!!

[@jmf1976jmf]

Agreed

[@joeyzagari4155]

Have I made a mistake getting a factory Howa Mini 6arc? The magazine is short and I doubt they’ll fit. Moreover, I probably can’t hand load longer projectiles further out the neck and fit in the magazine. I’m guessing I can hand feed them but. I wonder if the Ruger American Gen2 can magazine feed longer hand loads.

[@johanaxelsson8074]

This could be my new seal hunting bullet, would be great to have the higher BC out in the archipelago. Recommended twist rates is still missing on the website, but I hope 1:8 will suffice for .264? Do you have a recommended max velocity? 6.5-300 Wby can send it quite fast....

[@wstavis3135]

1:7 is the recommended rate

[@MrPiimpslap]

In the podcast, for the VT bullets, 62gr .224 bullets require 1:7. For the .264 offerings, 1:8 is good.

[@jonathansmit872]

1:10 for 30cal

[@jjgriffin3275]

for those of us shooting 223, i guess we only get vmax, BUT very cool new bullet, would like it in 223.....KEEP INNOVATING

[@calangel]

If you have an 8 twist, I think you may be able to use it. As long as this thing isn't much longer than the 73gr ELD, it will stabilize in the 8 twist.

[@codyboland8109]

The 62gr eldvt is a good bit longer than the 73gr eldm. I believe it’s a hair shorter than the 88gr eldm

[@calangel]

@@codyboland8109 someone who has the bullet said that it measures 1.05" OAL. Someone involved with Hornady.

[@tripplebeards3427]

You'll need to seat it deeply in the case.

[@bjcoveney5306]

How about the 240 wby? Single feed?

[@MrGreblin]

I would like to know how these bullets would work in a Ruger ranch rifle with a 1/8 twist and 5 r rifling

[@tripplebeards3427]

So…why not light for caliber VT projectiles so they are no so long that they can be used in common calibers?

[@levistrauss5378]

As much as I appreciate these new products, you can't keep your existing products on the shelf. Finding 6mmARC is still difficult and now you have .22 ARC?

[@ZZ-uf4zv]

Will these bullets stabalize in a 1:9 twist?

[@erichuntter2437]

6mm / 243 , factory rifle be able to shot the V Max in 80gr ?

[@predatorhuntingobsession5104]

I’m going to assume, I’ll reiterate the assume part, as long as it’s the 6mm creedmoor and not an actually .243 it will work since it’s made for these long low drag modern bullets. A 243 won’t have the right head spacing if I’m thinking corretly

[@leonardogarcia2506]

@@predatorhuntingobsession5104 has nothing to do with head spacing. It’s just rifle twist for stability.

[@predatorhuntingobsession5104]

@@leonardogarcia2506 if the overall length of a round with the new longer ogive bullets doesn’t allow for deep enough seating depth then it won’t fit in a .243 right?

[@leonardogarcia2506]

@@predatorhuntingobsession5104 I haven’t seen the 80 grain 6mm bullets, but most 243’s have a generous throat. Not weatherby throat, but still pretty long for the standard length or coal of a factory round. Besides if you’re using a max charge of varget or RL-15, you’re at 80% case fill, leaving you plenty of room for seating way down into the case.

[@predatorhuntingobsession5104]

@@leonardogarcia2506 10-4

[@Yelladog78]

I'm perfectly happy with the VMAX but that's cool

[@dwaynenetting6886]

Well I hand loaded a 52gr ELD with 27.8gr of CFE223 and it works perfectly fine in my AR-15

[@tripplebeards3427]

Not a fur friendly bullet vs the vmax from what I’m seeing so far.

[@eloomin]

Oh I can’t have it for my 223. Now I want it. Well done, good marketing.

[@leeburkai9830]

I just received my first box of Hornady 30 cal, 174 gr. ELD-VT bullets. On the box it states that the twist rate is 1-12". The bullet is 1.4215" long! I haven't found any reloading data on this bullet yet. Can anyone direct me to some data on reloading this bullet. Thanks

[@robertpagel8951]

Use the hornady manual for the other 308 in that weight class. That's where it will be next time they update the reloading manual. Start in the middle of max charge for each compatible powder and you'll be just fine. Thinking about trying out a box for tikka chassis rifle and 11twist bartlein barrel

[@leonardogarcia2506]

Reloading for this bullet would be no different than hornady’s load data for the bullet in its weight class. I’d use somewhere between 38-42 grains of varget. Start at 38 grains and find your seating depth that the bullet likes, then Just shoot a ladder from 38 grains to 42 grains in .5 grain increments. If you’re a hand loader, I’m sure you know what to do next.

[@rockylongbrake1703]

Will the .224 62gr withstand 36-3700 fps or will they come apart

[@MrPiimpslap]

Depends on the twist rate.

[@jesseiancassidy]

I have a 1:8 on a 26" 22-250 I hope to find out soon.

[@jasyamaha]

​@@jesseiancassidyhow did you go

[@joelbuck5033]

I bought some the ELD-VT bullets without knowing that they wouldn't work in a 556. Now I'm building a 22 ARC just to use them...well that's the excuse I gave the Mrs.

[@Lucysdad66]

Me to but I did a little research and some people had no problem with seated at 2.250 I will give them a try if they don't work I will use them in my bolt I can seat out alot further

[@armedfarm3429]

Sorry I don't buy the idea that you can move most of the weight to the rear & maintain accuracy! Some of the weight, sure it's been done for yrs. I see twist issues, long range issues. It will be great on varmints sure. But we already have the V - max. which might be the best varmint getter since the HP.

[@trg3761]

So you think the ballistician has not tested this bullet and he dosent know what he's talking about lol ok.

[@armedfarm3429]

I said that? Huh. Well, I'll B@@trg3761

[@supersubes]

Have you played with these yet? Youre wrong, they fly great at distance.

[@carolinagunner3671]

Why don’t you focus on giving us a steady supply of the cartridges you have created(6mmarc) instead of shitting on people who have purchased the rifle only for you to crest new rifles.

[@Peace-ju9us]

YES, you can reload the legacy cartridges in a correctly twist barrel: 6mm rem, 243 win, 260 rem...Hornady just wants you to buy a new caliber rifle instead of rebarreling your old rifle.

[@scottzagger]

Why bother keeping an old caliber in a new barrel? The new calibers are in fact better.

[@trg3761]

@@scottzagger how are they in fact better. the 243w with the correct length throat with a 1 in 7 twist would shoot a 62 gr eld vt as fast as a 6mm creedmoor

[@scottzagger]

@@trg3761 Because 6CM doesn’t need a custom barrel, chamber or ammunition to do what it does.

[@trg3761]

@@scottzagger Theres nothing custom about 243w chamber, and 1 in 7 twist barrels are common and range brass.

[@scottzagger]

@@trg3761 Which factory barrels are 1/7?

[@mickyabroad3818]

That was a lot of talking just for the sake of it.

[@trg3761]

243w AI 1 in 7 twist 80 gr ELD-VT is a match made in hell..

[@millerkingeekuk494]

All marketing with typical Hornady stuff. Nothing to be hyped about but look at their Copper bald heads.

[@chriswigington1572]

No matter how much u brush your hair forward you’re still bald!! 🤣

[@paulsouth4794]

Hhhhmmmm rem 260 .. 6.5SE with careful hand loading to modern pressures easily pokes a 100gr bullet at over 3260fps. I'm loading up 20 atm too see how they preform .