Elden Ring - Consort Radahn Nerfed (Patch 1.14)

[@JNaysh]

Mr President, a nerf has hit the 2nd Radahn

[@crab-time1]

nah on 9/11 too? 💀

[@Sleepy_Dandelion]

@@JNaysh underrated comment frfr

[@magnacrushersart572]

I'M LAUGHING MY FUCKING ASS OFF

[@periwinkle2486]

it reminds me of that tragedy...

[@ДмитрийОсипов-м9д]

@eaglestryker1338 the WMD is actually already proliferated and rests at the roots of the Haligtree

[@CRH4000]

This video is exactly what I was hoping to find. No time wasting just straight to the point. KZbin needs more people like you.

[@yuanliu1044]

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[@sm0k3y56]

No yapping, no filler. Just an informative, concise showcase. Better than sex.

[@rhenevers5229]

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[@AstonishingRed]

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[@Ronjuz]

Lmaoo right ​@@yuanliu1044

[@Renis419]

I feel like they should've kept the opening attack personally. Gives you that "oh crap" feeling.

[@totallyofftask]

Yeah I don’t think that change was necessary

[@legday9398]

Radahn honestly fought kinda like a meathead, would have been better if he wasn't so constant aggro but rather be responsive and react to your positioning with altered moves

[@soraudagawa3022]

I agree but afaik it's annoying for summoning and such.

[@Nrzpokrter]

​@@soraudagawa3022 Exactly why it should have been left untouched. If you csnt live long enough to summon your spirit, you dont deserve it.

[@Renis419]

@@totallyofftask real

[@somebodyanonymous4608]

This patch is symbolic of Radahn and Miquella's spirits finally breaking after being farmed by Ongbal too much.

[@BilbotheQuaker]

fromsoft so next level that even the patches have lore 😂

[@bluekaneko]

I also wanna break miquella... ಡ⁠ ͜⁠ ⁠ʖ⁠ ⁠ಡ

[@noyes9923]

hopefully ppl with epilepsy can now play the boss fight without getting killed irl

[@Oathbreaker314]

Lmao 💀

[@Reemon27]

LOL 😭

[@FaultyTable]

If anyone decides to get offended at this, I'm epileptic and found this deeply, and utterly, hilarious

[@outriderjuno9371]

Wild

[@marius3165]

At least it was realistic, a boss so hard it would kill you in real life

[@Nubbz3YT]

they finally let us dodge cross slash without being a neuro scientist

[@eggoman5522]

nubbz from brawl star?!

[@the8382]

All you had to do to dodge it before patch was to just light roll and dodge to your left…

[@RealPipeCar]

@@the8382You could do it with medium as well

[@SuryaGupta-te7fq]

you could also dodge cross slash with blind spot, it lets you dodge cross slash so you can roll through the follow up. I'm disappointed they listened to all the complainers that want to solo this boss in 2 hours, hes straight up easier than Malenia now

[@bish189]

@@the8382 ah yes all you had to do is change your build to a light roll one, it's not like this game is an RPG, a genre famous for allowing players to play the game however they want

[@cadcrane7016]

It’s good that they changed the lighting effects. People can finally enjoy this fight without their pc/console blowing up

[@adiaz093]

Don't put me in the same bucket at the those shitty PC master race people. Frames never dropped on ps5

[@giratina6665]

I think there should be an option to get the old version since I think it looks better and my PC was able to handle that one

[@Shendapy]

Sounds like a last gen struggle

[@Afflictamine]

for real I was waiting for this, phase 2 made my PC drop to 25 frames lol

[@kelphiuspolluxeldanimus6426]

WEAK player alert

[@MaluCristallord]

Radahn is so strong that he had to be nerfed twice

[@knusperkeks2748]

From is so bad they make the same boss OP twice.

[@kidnamedfinger2840]

​@@knusperkeks2748 Miyazaki just a chadahn fanboy

[@Aurosteel]

@@knusperkeks2748 LMAOOOO, what bad cope

[@spacemayonaise5481]

more like shit design

[@inkika315]

@@spacemayonaise5481 indeed, this one feels like some younger generation designer in FS wanna prove he's dope but only ends up acting like an amateur.🥲

[@magnoUo]

0:10 skumnut is so happy rn

[@HellecticMojo]

Alright, time to beat the DLC with infant's head

[@griffin4556]

He's finally free from humping Radahn's right leg

[@NiceIndeed]

It’s so funny too that he already went through ng+1000 dlc though

[@mitsuri3096]

Imagine watching that guy bro has a massive ego

[@NiceIndeed]

@@mitsuri3096 I feel like he’s the chillest a guy can be. Wdym he has a huge ego?

[@carlossssssss5492]

The cross slash nerf and light reduction were definitely needed the rest are just little hand outs. Overall I'll gladly take it.

[@marcospaulomoncavooliveira1212]

And these clone attacks timings.

[@qballin1523]

Yeah plus the bloodflame slash being punishable also just adds another punish window so it's nice to have that since those can be scarce in second phase

[@dvdivine1962]

​@@qballin1523for some reason a lot players think being able to attack less = good gameplay.

[@AskwhoQ]

My favorite thing is that he doesn’t follow up on attacks as fast because it forced so much precise dodging just to only get a single hit in, this seems way more reasonable and fair now.

[@anonisnoone6125]

​@@dvdivine1962Fr. Tbh, I didn't mind the few attack windows but when u actually fight him with greatswords and colossal swords, then u can definitely see y the lack punish windows isn't a good thing.

[@tasin2776]

Cross slash and light effects nerf was badly needed

[@klipk7296]

everything else was so unnecessary

[@lemonnade5974]

​​@@klipk7296no, the meteor slam hitbox nerf was also needed because it looked ridiculous how it hit you when your model wasn't even touching his swords. The bloodflame delay was also needed because it was extremely boring to just constantly roll 10 moves in a row before you had a chance to poke him once for half a second. Boss fights shouldnt just be about constantly rolling, it should allow for creative expression in combat as well.

[@marcospaulomoncavooliveira1212]

And the clone attack timings. I might try it when I reach home.

[@hidan407]

​@@lemonnade5974 You had THE perfect reasoning behind needing rhe nerfs.

[@EdyeGuevara]

Most definitely

[@sparklepawz1185]

I appreciate the cross slash nerf and the light show change but the opening attack wasn’t something that was so broken it needed nerfing.

[@BazTheBlue]

People who play with spirit summons were literally unable to do so without getting squashed on entry

[@sparklepawz1185]

@@BazTheBlue honestly, and I’m not saying it to be mean, that seems like a skill issue. I’ve been able to summon spirits freely so long as I don’t just summon right as I enter. Even with mid roll you could dodge and immediately summon before Radahn went into another attack.

[@Gwynn23]

Its not a true, u haver a little space to sumon but is not in the start, needed to be a little patient ​@@BazTheBlue

[@jeff3221]

​@sparklepawz1185 read what they said again forehead. You couldn't summon on entry. What you said is, "Yes you can. All you have to do is not summon on entry and then you can summon later." You sure showed them!

[@sparklepawz1185]

@@jeff3221 the point is you can still summon. It’s not the game’s fault if you brainlessly spam summon right as you enter despite knowing an attack is coming.

[@interactant]

That crossslash was literally the only thing making it difficult for me to not hit him

[@infinitepotato001]

For real. I don't mind but it kinda sucks having learned the fight and now it's way easier.

[@ashketchumismystudent780]

yea

[@umiboibozu]

same. everything else i was fine with being in.

[@anonisnoone6125]

​@@infinitepotato001It's not that easy at all. I fought him yesterday and I can assure u he's still almost as hard as he was b4. His attacks come out just as fast, and u can still easily get hit by the first slash of u don't dodge in time.

[@justapersonz5441]

@@anonisnoone6125No, he isn't. Maybe it's because i've helped dozens of people now pre nerf; there's a big difference now. He's just kinda, meh now. Great boss yeah. But not as hard.

[@Sleepy_Dandelion]

"Patch: Now you can dodge". Reminds me of ADP in DS2. No hate.

[@Leo007619]

The way Radahn was working does deserve hate.

[@Sleepy_Dandelion]

@Leo007619 yes yes, I was referring to the patch. I just find it silly that you need a patch to be able to effectively evade enemy attacks.

[@AtomicZamurai]

​@Sleepy_Dandelion you can evade every single attack even before the patch but it requires perfection becauseif you potionned badly then you would be dead. Now you can evade every attack while not being heavily punished or trapped And the comparison with adp is absolutely stupid. Not only adp was a stat that was useless and not needed, but it was to the core bad. You just don't take frames from the player like that Second again this is a stupid argument because at least the devs acknowledged their errors and fixed it, adp is STILL bad in big 2024. Some devs wouldn't even mind fixing anything(ex blizzard or ubisoft). At least the devs changed their mind or would you have preferred the boss fight to stay the same mess ? Seriously

[@Ev74977]

Ironically if anything the cross slash was the complete opposite of ds2, requiring very specific positioning and light roll or just using the backstep talisman. Adp in ds2, looking at it without bias, actively encourages and allows for more build variety from your stat investment, more than any other souls game. If you want to be agile and use backsteps, get around 105 agility to make use of them. If you want to be tanky, don't level it as much and use a shield with heavy armor. Or if you want a middle ground just stay at 90-100 agility. It allowed for more in depth build making than what we have in the newer games. Adp isn't a simple 'level up to win' stat, it's an interesting rpg mechanic that allows for fine tuning of builds to meet specific needs, regardless of how it's conveyed to the player.

[@livertx758]

i don't understand the link with DS2 , for me it remind DS1 and Gwyn snap sword attack who also deserve to be nerf because it's too fast to be reactable , at least Radahn cross slash was reactable

[@viktorthevictor6240]

The fact that improved fps is considered a nerf...

[@liketobecalled]

They directly lowered the attack damage for all of the attacks, the boss now attacks less frequently, and they decreased the speed of the attacks as well, the fps change was needed but the other changes were an overkill and not necessary in my opinion, they even removed the opening attack because apparently people are too stubborn and impatient to be able to dodge one attack and then summon their mimic

[@viktorthevictor6240]

@@liketobecalled Huh, that kinda sucks. Haven't fought him after the patch.

[@RoryStarr]

The fight is better now. The slower cross slash alone makes the whole rhythm of the fight better. If people equate difficulty to gooder, then yes, it is less gooder. But a fight is much more holistic than raw difficulty and the changes were needed. For example, saying he attacks "less often" is a bit misleading. He doesn't chain up to 18-20 attacks anymore. He is still a pretty unrelenting beast.

[@damianoaimino1714]

​@@RoryStarrthe cross slash nerf was needed but in my opinion the damage and more importantly the stamina damage nerf is overkill. I mean poking behind a shield is not skillful or fun so I don't know why fromsoftware want to make this strat as good as it is.

[@zerosolis6664]

​@@damianoaimino1714Fun is subjective. I think the point should be about these games moving away from you playing The Legend of Zelda, and the bosses playing Devil May Cry.

[@El_Hornio_II]

I feel like the bloodflame slash and the hitbox on his ground-slam beginning to going up and launching meteors were a _little_ unnecessary but overall, fucking top-tier changes, couldn't ask for anything better in terms of changes honestly

[@Mo167ose]

I also think that his clone attack should still have the fast follow up, now it kinda looks like a joke to dodge. Honestly the whole fight looks super easy now, I honestly liked having the final boss of the DLC be ludicrously hard to the point of being unfair

[@remilenoir1271]

How exactly is removing a questionable hitbox and adding an opening in order to fluidify the action "a little unnecessary" ?

[@asdergold1]

​@@remilenoir1271 Muh difficulty mentality. It's just pretentious posturing. A more polished and refined game, even by a little, is clearly inferior. A game that rewards skill fairly is bad. A game that rewards intelligence and cunning is bad. Etc. Etc. Etc.

[@migueword9793]

​@@asdergold1 I mean the only unfair shit in this fight, coming from someone who no hit this pre-nerf, was the cross slash and the miquellas light attack. Idk why they felt the need to nerf every single easy attack on top of them when waterfowl dance still remains as it is.

[@lv7_p1kachu]

My guess is that they were somehow the attacks that killed people the most. It was good, but I would prefer if the cross slash was faster at the start, with a bigger start up to compensate. The attack was meant to punish dodging backwards, but the hitboxes made dodging everywhere except to the left impossible without getting hit once. Making it faster retains the punish from dodging away while making one dodge all that is needed to avoid the move.

[@Rassalcon]

Most people: ''THANK FUCKING MICHAEL ZAKI!'' Madmen: ''Look how they massacred my boy''

[@leinadneyugn1132]

While miquella’s nuke attack was a good nerf, they shoudnt have nerfed him any further.

[@Reemon27]

bruh challenge runners are the most happy with this nerf

[@Zarroxius]

Challenge runners didn’t like him either lmfao

[@yurichekov8944]

@@leinadneyugn1132 The cross slash was 100x more egregious than any other attack in his moveset, miquellan nuke is a sidenote compared to that

[@jackd6881]

lol this boss was destroying challenge runs.

[@colinwier4190]

honestly i like the changes besides changing the opening attack it honestly helped with getting into the flow of the fight

[@LMSH]

The cross slash nerf is a godsend 😂

[@Zarroxius]

You had to already be at such a weird angle to properly dodge it, that attack made NO sense.

[@austioperosis6450]

They should've sped up the attack instead of slowing it down, now I gotta Dodge an extra time.

[@jik9693]

​@austioperosis6450 That would've been a nice balance, it'll be like malenia double slash attack.

[@MassimilianoCavalera]

Cue Siegward: NO!!! You should have WAITED!!! But seriously, wish I would've known this was coming before I let this boss shave off a couple years from my lifespan

[@graveslayer9666]

But hey, now you can brag about beating him before the nerf

[@Oathbreaker314]

​@@graveslayer9666 fr

[@Ssosmooth69]

@@graveslayer9666can confirm I beat him on two different characters pre-nerf. There is now evidence that I am better at the game and will brag about it on Reddit.

[@Reemon27]

same man pre nerf was not fun at all. and i had to beat him 5 times (ng7)

[@sepulcher8263]

@@Ssosmooth69 Yeah, people are very weird about that shit on reddit. You had people bragging about beating Starscourge Radahn pre "nerf";

[@lsparta5533]

Regular gamers: Better FPS , an optimized game. Souls gamers: Better FPS, an easier game.

[@risasdesktop]

"But souls games are suppoooooooosed to be unfair!" Even tho your character has already canonically killed multiple gods, and you & Radhan are ACTUALLY supposed to be on an equal playing field. Either accept the changes or advocate for faster weapons and better dodge windows, including for fat-rolling. Fromsoft elites are the most obnoxious people ever.

[@ozknt]

@@risasdesktop y a p ✨

[@miserablelife2016]

Miyazaki himself said something like: "if you are enough good, be better." He dosent want nerf bosses. Just People wants play from software, find they sucks, cry, and want nerf. ​@@risasdesktop

[@ritosuckerino6763]

@@risasdesktop mad cause u bad. I bet you summon for bosses.

[@TheKnightDrag0n]

@@miserablelife2016 Not with that bing bing tier combat you ain't, also remember to respect his turn.

[@bopsi]

Some other changes: - The cross-slash backstep attack also has some more recovery frames. - The explosion attack in phase 2 is slightly smaller, in addition to just being less bright. - Apparently, the hitbox tied to PCR slamming his swords into the ground when preparing for the rock-sling is still there, but is isolated at the tip of his swords instead of being on the whole thing. Unchanged things: - I kinda wish the double-clone distance-closer attack was editted a little bit, because it having so many hitboxes attached to it always made it feel a bit inconsistent in my experience, plus the placement of the apparition of Radahn seemed to sometimes be weird. - It seems like, just from videos of 1.14 Radahn, that the i-frame ignorance issue is still a thing on that vertical slam he does with both swords. Not 100% sure though, because personally, I only had that issue occur for me once ever, so I'm parroting this claim from other people. - The clone follow-ups after the phase 2 rock-sling are completely unchanged, which is unfortunate because the inconsistent timings of the clones coming out is a big issue when actually rolling the attack instead of just outspacing it (something you can't really do in some circumstances). There might be very slight differences with how PCR tracks you when you bait him in one direction, and then go in the opposite direction, but if so, it's very miniscule. Personally, I really like the changes, but some things make me a little sad, since I was so used to the original, flawed as it was. For instance, I wish the fast follow-up after the 4 vertical-clones attack was still there, since that was only a problem because of visibility being an issue imo, which also got fixed, so I think the added time between the clones and the follow-up was a bit much, but it's not necessarily bad by any means. Even after being so used to this fight from an RL1, and liking it for what it was, I was, and still am an advocate for making the fight more accessible for the general playerbase. And largely, I think this is a fair change for a boss that really needed it, since, imo, it just felt very unfinished and lacking of that FromSoft boss polish I and so many other people have come to appreciate. Now all we need is a change to that goddamn Metyr laser (and, also a Waterfowl Dance change would be nice, but I think that ship sailed a while ago lol).

[@HobeyDator]

Finally with a nice take on your last paragraph! Appreciated it. This Final Boss now will be considered no longer artificially difficult I think... But Forsure this will be now a challenging yet fair and fun final boss. No need to gatekeep a new player base like us. Cheers for this

[@bopsi]

@@HobeyDator DOWN WITH THE GATEKEEPERS

[@yeahwellthatsjustlikeyouro7466]

It still isn't fun, btw. I used to defend ER from idiots spamming "rollslop" and pretending that's all there is too ER but sadly, PC Radhan seems to be the very definition of rollslop still. Just spam roll until you get a half a second opening to """""""punish""""""" with a light attack before he starts with his next 8 hit combo. It just isn't fun. I like to dance with the bosses, punishing every single attack they do with the many different attack types and animations. This just isn't possible with PC Radhan. It feels automated, it feels like being forced to carefully rehearse a very specific dance dozens of times so you can finally beat him instead of, you know, dancing your way. My way of playing works on EVERY single boss BUT PC Radhan.

[@GiveMeYourEyes]

@@yeahwellthatsjustlikeyouro7466 this honestly sounds like you have a really cool way of playing the game and I’d honestly quite like to see how you do

[@user-ng4wt9bg4w]

@@yeahwellthatsjustlikeyouro7466you sound like you’d love sekiro

[@rosinanteonpc]

normally I don’t like it when they nerf bosses but I think this is a good change. He’s way more fun to fight

[@AylenIvonne]

Xdddd "normally" nooob

[@HydratedChampion]

@@AylenIvonneYou’re not real

[@rosinanteonpc]

@@AylenIvonne don’t project not having a father into the comments section

[@randomguy9471]

@@AylenIvonneseek employment

[@realistseconds]

​@@AylenIvonnedid you really think we wouldn't make fun of you

[@HonsHon]

Love this channel. No damn time wasted and got straight to the point.

[@kebabruh]

Performance boost and cross attack nerf was def needed, but i don't really mind that follow up after clone attack and slam hitbox for his meteor attack.

[@davidmingle5910]

It's a good nerf, although they should have kept the slam hitbox I wouldn't mind if they kept the quicker follow-ups from the illusion slash thing.

[@duveduve1792]

yea the only things that werent really unfair just made him a bit harder but yea overall good and fair nerf

[@Noizzed]

The follow up after the clone attacks are so slow now, you might even have time to get a poke in, when before it was basically part of the same attack.

[@duveduve1792]

@@Noizzed tbh that was fair i didnt have problem with that attack

[@Miquella_was_taken]

Ngl the light and cross slash changes were the only problems I had, and I’m miquella, so you guys can trust me

[@WildBandit300]

My guess is that it got removed because it could get buggy at times in certain parts of the arena, so they just took it out instead of spending time to fix it proper.

[@acidxcross]

When I heard this guy was getting nerfed, I stopped my elden ring update so I could try the boss before the nerf, because I didn't get to him at the time. Now, I killed the boss pre nerf today and came to check what was nerfed. This makes the boss a lot easier. I am glad I didn't apply the update and was able to experience before this.

[@thiagokovalski9959]

0:40 i just whish they didn't change this, the timing was very forgiving once you get it and the combo continuation was soo sick to doge without taking damage and now it seems soo slow but i get it why it was nerfed, overall the nerf was very indeed needed especially the cross slash attack

[@slurpyfinesse]

I think just the cross slash nerf would’ve been good, the rest of the fight looks so clunky now :(

[@thiagokovalski9959]

@@slurpyfinesse yeah I agree, bro is in slowmotion right now

[@AhmOOO]

Cross slash attack and light brightness were enough, why go further? Just let people git gud, From.

[@magila7802]

Delusional. You can barely make out that the 'instant' version of his clone attack is a right handed downwards slash. I used to think it was unavoidable if he decided to do it at that range. Once you do figure it out, he still launches into a combo pretty much immediately afterwards, which is cheap. Bosses shouldn't be in a state of attacking for like ten seconds at a time.

[@thiagokovalski9959]

​@@magila7802 nah bro, for the clones u just have to run or even walk to the right, when the thirdy clone attack you roll avoiding the true radahn and then immediately roll again dogging the first hit of the combo, after that you can see what combo radahn is doing and adapt accordingly, i know it was pretty hard do dogge and I understand the nerf but you was abble to dogge it every time

[@kuroiiiiii]

finally I'm able to fight consort radahn without dealing with proper angling of camera to find a sweet spot with less fps drop.

[@quirinoguy8665]

The only thing I truly care about is my FPS no longer dropping, holy shit.

[@eranronen573]

"Holy shit", exactly

[@synchronicity23218]

Having beat the dlc 3 times pre nerf i think there are very good nerfs in this fight that make it a lot better, actually all of them are good without making it too much easier. However now it feels like radahn moves in slow motion now. One of the things i loved about pre nerf radahn was his speed and relentlessness but only the cross slash was the main issue. Now that got nerfed along with other aspects that i personally found okay. I suppose it doesn’t matter to me anymore since i got my fill of fighting radahn already so I’m glad for all of the people who can do this fight without having to treat this fight like they are expected to be perfect when they really shouldn’t be asked of such a crazy thing in games like these.

[@jameslough6329]

I think the speed of Radahn's combos are just as fast as they were pre nerf. It's just the pace of his fight that feels slower since he is significantly less aggressive now and leaves much bigger openings after his combo finisher attacks.

[@ksander1779]

Bloodflame blade was the second worst thing and im so happy its gone.

[@zakanyimen]

@@jameslough6329 Yeah before thet he has 7 combos and you can only safe punish like 4 of them other just waste time and can't stance break

[@thisguy2973]

Yea, but he was HARD AS FUUUCK in NG+5 with that 62k HP.

[@Thisisthegreatestatofalltime]

The placebo is happening already

[@Abdullah_786-x3s]

Just bought a new gaming laptop! Finally gonna play this game!!!!

[@phalnx2614]

Enjoy :)

[@kodemasterx]

Enjoy this wonderful experience!

[@ChristianBurnett]

Adiós to your spare time

[@Vigil920]

I hope you enjoy mate

[@creeperYT9824]

you are very lucky you dont have to fight pre nerf radahn, now you can enjoy boss

[@michaeljohnston8891]

The only things I really feel were needed were the cross slash nerf and the performance improvements. I guess since he takes longer to recover out of stuff now you’ll be able to stance break him more consistently, but the crazy pacing is something I really love about this fight

[@i_amodyssey1326]

same dude, I hadn't beat him yet but now i'm gonna try again and I feel like it'll be like fighting margit with how slow he looks now😂

[@michaeljohnston8891]

@@i_amodyssey1326 the biggest issue with the added recovery is that it seems almost like a bandaid solution to his poise breaking the rules. Despite having the posture bar of a boss like a Tree Sentinel, his posture regenerates as if he were Malenia, with only a 6 second timer before it starts to regen. Because his posture doesn’t play by the rules, you’re better off using a rapier to break his stance

[@Noizzed]

While i do like that there no longer an instant follow up after clone attacks, i now think it's a bit too slow to attack again. It should be somewhat in-between.

[@mikeyswift2010]

I be fuckin with the swag of Ongy in this clip. Looks like a Shinobi that's fallen on hard times, like the sculptor.

[@Modie]

The best change for me is the not instant follow-up attack after the light clones. Not because of attacking back, but it's now more clear to even learn because you can see what he is doing. Only thing I would say that I find strange is removing the hitbox on the slam (followed by the meteors). While it hit me a few times, I didn't think that one was unfair in particular. Even at close range, you had enough time to either dodge or just move away.

[@schadowsshade7870]

Honestly I fell quite the opposite. Ngl the clone follow ups where the main reason I died in my 20 hours of fighting him but they made this fight so much more hectic and intense. They made hesitation defeat which is why I loved em. Also I think figuring out what’s coming is the point and the pleasure of the intense lights. On the other hand the Meteor slam had me raging everytime I got hit cause it does bonkers damage and you’re lying on the ground too long to heal so If you can’t dodge meteors or clones you’re just dead

[@Modie]

@@schadowsshade7870 I guess they helped us both then.

[@ludzallen954]

bad change. a significant part of difficulty is gone with that removal.

[@kennethtristangaming3674]

Thank god the fucking cross slash was changed.Absolutely a needed nerf

[@gamingveteran2312]

Aww why did they take away the beginning attack? That was so fun to dodge and was a pace setter for me

[@niscent_]

i agree, it's a guaranteed gigantic initial opening and actually makes the fight easier. where i understand why they would change it is that it gets pretty boring and that attack is not tricky to dodge so that it could be satisfying. ironically i never got hit in my first 2-3 tries by the opening, but later i started getting hit every time for at least 10 tries because it was just so boring i couldn't match my timing.

[@Dartokenove]

Glad they changed the light nuke, because it happened to me a lot that i had to waste 1 or 2 extra crimson flasks when i tried to use one, and in the middle of it they made that attack and there was no way to run to safety due to the very tight timing.

[@luettexiv]

they didn't change the timing on the nuke, they just heavily reduced the FPS loss because of the immense particle effects, still a really good change

[@Dartokenove]

@@luettexiv You say it isn't smaller?

[@manofeight1955]

I just imagine this one guy still trying to beat PCR then the patch came out and he thought he finally knew the timing of the cross slash attack after 10000 attempts 😂

[@RebeccaBrunner]

Tbh this was me the other day. I had beat him pre-patch with my mage and it took 2 days. just reached him on a second character and got through him really easily and it went straight to my ego 😂

[@absoutezeo2126]

Can confirm that Phase 2 is actually fun now. Thanks, FromSoft.

[@DarkMustard1337]

If it wasnt for the lame fragment system Id go back, that 2nd phase and a lot of his roll catching..from's design is trash these days and needs to be fixed

[@M1kaela7]

Big win for removing the double slash un-dodgeable move and also for improving visual clarity and fps, the rest feels unnecessary

[@johnfrankster3244]

It was always dodgeable, just needed very good positioning. Ginomachino did multiple no hit runs on him without using crucible talismans to dodge the attack or light rolling.

[@spiderapple5839]

​@@johnfrankster3244 Having to change your build to dodge one attack was quite silly, but having good positioning after certain attacks was extremely hard and left you vulnerable to the cross slash

[@neamraven]

@@johnfrankster3244 Yeah, and that's why he hated it. Because it forced him to spend the entire fight by Radahn's right knee. Very good balance patch, addressing actual issues with this boss.

[@anonisnoone6125]

​@@johnfrankster3244GinoMachino is also a pro. And he even said today on his live that the boss fight is way better and he would actually consider it an A tier fight with these changes. He didn't like the pre-nerf version.

[@skeeboc638]

It was not un-dodgeable before nerf

[@dragon.slayer]

Well 1:11 this nerf was unnecessary it wasn't hard to dodge in the first place, other than that it's a good change.

[@Colossalmonkey.]

What wrong with the one two three and slam . I always timed it soo good

[@macaroniandcheese8900]

I'd like to think their's somehow still a remanant of Mohg within that vessel, holding back Radahn and Miquella for the tarnished sake. Imagine an alternate nerfed boss if the player completes quest(s).

[@itzkilas]

I like this nerf, makes it feel more like a fight than a dodging simulator and your turn to “fight back” is to hit him once or twice depending on your weapon and then back to dodge a bunch of times, pre-nerfed Radhan felt resident sleeper, this patch feels more interactive finally

[@グウィンドリン-t4x]

It's like they finally tested the boss. When it first released, I highly doubt if they ever tried this shit themselves.

[@XXNEPTUNECC]

​@@グウィンドリン-t4x Playtesters did say cross slash attack was WAY worse than it is now, so they did actually tweak the boss before release, but it seems it wasn't enough

[@bandoneple3217]

The fact that there's actually a few windows to land hits now is great! Before it felt like no matter how much I dodged, it just didn't matter cause he would always just INSTANTLY start another combo. So once the second phase started, I just almost never had an opportunity to land an actual hit.

[@kskr8610]

there were plenty its just hard to tell without dying a lot to figure out

[@DevramAbyss]

You need to develope that Sekiro style no hesitation mindset. You can't wait for when you see an opening, you need to attack the moment you know an opening will be present, especially if you're using a heavier weapon

[@shadowyking123]

Every single one of his combos had a window at the end. I beat him with Greatsword+Shield without using bleed/rot by just attacking 1-2 times after every combo chain.

[@AtmosphereHaven]

Proud to say I’ve beaten pre nerd radahn, that was hell. Im gonna do a replay now to see how this one goes

[@the_soviet_smacker497]

This patch has carried him to S tier for me, you can actually dodge the cross slam now front on. You can see what’s happening in phase 2 well enough to learn yourself and not be blinded, the unfair nuke attack that you had to have already been sprinting to be able to dodge has been fixed. I think the only reason people are complaining he’s not easy is because the people who never go outside and practiced him everyday pre patch are so use to the overtuned gameplay that now he seems to easy. Why that’s fair I don’t think it makes him worse. This Radahn is objectively better in every way. People would feel the same way if they nerfed waterfowl dance, I don’t think it matters too much that Radahn isn’t the hardest boss anymore. He’s still the second hardest and the only reason Malenia is above him is bullshit. If Radahn has lost the top spot to bullshit then I don’t think it matters that he’s in second place in terms of difficulty

[@tanyatan8168]

Honestly the only changes needs were cross slash and lighting effects nerf. Everything else staying the same I wouldn’t have minded.

[@kotblini_]

I agree but luckily I think all the changes are side-grades at worst. i.e. if Radahn had released in this form, I don't think I'd complain.

[@Youngling654]

No one cares what you want. The nerd was needed

[@XXNEPTUNECC]

​@@Youngling654 "Nerd" lol

[@tatakaeenjoyer325]

​@@Youngling654I think from should have added a version of Radahn pre-nerf like how sekiro has inner isshin and inner owl You whinebabies took away the most challenging boss in gaming history because you couldn't watch a 10 min KZbin guide on how to properly play against him and sit for 5 more hours and actually learn his moveset Beating an insurmountable challenge like pre nerf PCR was VERY rewarding for some people and your whining took it away because of your weak mentality At least I got to beat him before the nerf ( without any shield or cheese tactics ) and have that memorable experience Now go and beat this slow ass version of Radahn and call yourself a gamer 😂

[@Helgrind44]

So much better. He looks really fun to fight now. And the slower animations actually looks cooler IMO

[@puglord3166]

Prenerf Radahn was genuinely unfair at points. Fighting and beating him was one of the most miserable experiences I’ve ever had playing a video game. I really hope this patch makes him more fun to fight for new players.

[@mtszkrk]

All the changes are great and overhaul make the fight much better but honestly I wouldn't mind if they gave him like 10 or 15% more health now that you have more openings. I hated the bullshit but liked the extream challange Still this is a wonderfull change

[@thechosenflutterbox]

He's no longer moving at x1.25, thank Miyazaki for taking away his crack 🙏

[@manuelmiddleton1446]

When I first fought radahn on release, I actually thought I might be completely unable to beat him, I was neither frustrated nor angry, I simply thought I couldn't do it, even after playing other souls games before. And honestly, after beating him twice, I'm pretty happy that was my experience, wouldn't have it any other way. But that's only because it's the last boss in the game, it would be terrible anywhere else.

[@Afrocypher9590]

Dude, that's how I felt. It's like he's the end game, grand finale fight. Boss of all bosses. After you beat him you're free to move on forever & never look back at this game if ya don't want to.

[@boomm9321]

Literally the only boss I've used my consumables on. I don't usually use it because I save it for "later".

[@dwarow2508]

Man I'm glad I managed to beat him before the nerf

[@Hando10]

Same

[@vwyd]

thank you for the demonstration ongbal

[@sebastianmartin8665]

He moves so slow now, you can actively see his delay before starting a new combo

[@botondkunos1774]

That is a good thing.

[@nightscout9979]

@@botondkunos1774 I think he means that the delay being unnatural is what's actively visible.

[@sgtflamingo6532]

​​​@@botondkunos1774no, it is not in my and some others opinions

[@Rev.Serenity]

​@@botondkunos1774 it's not.

[@itsNyroc]

As someone who played the entire game +DLC with a strength build, this Radahn fight was the only fight to make me change my build. While I usually dont like nerfs, pre nerf Radahn really limited how people could fight him imo

[@BLK_MN]

0:40 WHAT?! Okay, that's a bit much to change. Might as well just give away a free victory for the boss fight now.

[@laynerowland1497]

I agree...

[@csabagalambos1461]

Still more challenging than any final boss in the Souls series.

[@gustavofrederico8911]

Skumnut will be happy seeing this after the NG+1000 run is over

[@Abken.]

The double-slash attack was bullshit, so I'm glad they nerfed it to be more easily dodgeable. This was a good idea because it doesn't nerf skill expression - you still need to dodge both slashes, but now it doesn't require frame perfect backsteps with talisman usage. All other nerfs I think were extremely unnecessary and make a fun boss less fun/less challenging, my 2c

[@matiasgago]

Look how the slowed down my boy

[@Auberc]

I liked the following up on the clone attack

[@moutchossegringosse]

Didn't get a chance to play the DLC yet, I'll never be able to brag about beating him pre nerf :(

[@Afrocypher9590]

Ha, yeah...I must say it was hell to pay but well worth it too in the end.

[@moutchossegringosse]

@@Afrocypher9590 GG bro! Must have been so fucking rewarding, I can honestly say that I'm a little less excited to fight him now, but still excited!

[@Afrocypher9590]

@@moutchossegringosse I feel ya, for me personally I might do another playthrough soon just to see the difference in the patch but not no time soon. 😂

[@moutchossegringosse]

@@Afrocypher9590 Hahahah you need time to heal man, I get it!

[@bradleyhandsonjoehallschro5419]

I'm willing to bet half the people, if not more, that brag about beating him went the with greatshield + rapier to just fold him in a couple of attempts. Moral of my story? Don't feel to bad whenever you see someone bragging hard about beating him pre-nerf. They may have just basically cheesed him.

[@devilvocano420]

Radahn so strong he had to get nerfed twice lol

[@perishsoftly6418]

Amusingly PCRadahn is STILL not "Prime" Radahn. So he could theoretically have been even stronger.

[@Ale-dd3ek]

​@@perishsoftly6418 the first phase most likely But in the second phase Radahn becomes a full "Elden Lord" aided by a god, which puts him on the same level as Radagon, Godfrey... At his prime Radahn was the strongest demigod

[@perishsoftly6418]

@@Ale-dd3ek But remember, he's not using his own body. He's using a reconstituted Mohg corpse with his soul shoved into it. Even with Miquella's power boost, I don't think that a necromanced Omen corpse piloted by a maybe-mind controlled soul is anywhere near Radahn's original body in his Prime.

[@peytonmcgiven7610]

This was needed. Fight was a mess

[@SFG420]

Well, for the ones of us who spent literal HOURS and days to finally defeat the original Consort Radahn, congrats! They just nerfed his ass! All that time!!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@MentokTheMindTaker]

My friend is pissed he didnt beat him before the nerf 😂

[@toastedbred2961]

he's now a fun fight lesgo, though i wonder how difficult someone who never fought prenerf radahn would find this version of him.

[@Hegemol900]

The cross slash one was needed, but the rest could have been kept out. This is supposed to be the hardest boss in the game, the dificulty was fine.

[@AntiSocialismo50]

it wasnt

[@Hegemol900]

@@AntiSocialismo50 Learn the moves, just have to take your time. I beat him, and many others too, stop whining.

[@AntiSocialismo50]

@@Hegemol900 the boss was bad designed, it looked like a mod made it. You clearly doesnr understand boss design

[@Hegemol900]

@@AntiSocialismo50 Every move of this guy is very clearly dodgeble. Its only "bad boss design" when it dosnt serve its purpose. The fact that you can beat this guy fair and square if you train well enough should be enough to call it good boss design. Youre just mad you couldnt beat him legit. Also `dont´. Work on your grammer.

[@AntiSocialismo50]

@@Hegemol900 no, it wasn't, but now it is

[@hydrodrift]

1:14 aw man they made him too easy now wtf.

[@channelman_]

1:14 hitbox wasn't removed, you still don't wanna be too close when he put hit swords in the ground

[@Solracarlos]

I like the nerf, while I was able to beat him pre nerf I definitely agree with Ongbal. The reduced lighting effects was badly needed along with the cross slash move. As for the other nerfs I personally believe those are a bit excessive. Overall tho this is a reasonable patch

[@HellecticMojo]

I wish they addressed Gaius' damage inconsistencies. Kinda hard to fight a boss when you can't tell if the attack is gonna hit you for 20% or 80% health.

[@Solracarlos]

@@HellecticMojo I’m not gonna lie I completely forgot about gaius😂 He absolutely needs a nerf, his attacks are super inconsistent, hopefully in a future patch

[@Malxer]

All my homies who beat Radahn and femboy Miquella pre-nerf, rise up 🗿

[@D0verking69]

no shut up

[@asleepinthewoods3178]

@@D0verking69 Why? Whats wrong? We suffered through it together, and now we dont need to anymore.

[@markoknezevic7792]

Right here 🖐

[@D0verking69]

@@asleepinthewoods3178 Gatekeeping is Cringe

[@rafaelportillo3026]

​@@D0verking69 Gatekeeping? you have to learn to use the terms

[@GuiriTV]

It looks more fun to go up against now. Much needed

[@nobuffer101]

I actually wouldn't have minded if the light effect on _just_ the nuke attack remained, because who in their right mind would voluntarily stare at an exploding pillar of light?

[@Ememinusculo]

Now Malenia being the hardest boss again

[@hkiolo474]

Nah he still the hardest

[@slimetruck]

⁠@@hkiolo474lol nah

[@hkiolo474]

@slimetruck did you fight him after the update?

[@slimetruck]

@@hkiolo474 yes, he feels slower and more telegraphed. I beat him before when he was super fast and it doesn’t feel the same. I wish they only nerfed cross slash honestly, if ppl feel different about it, which it seems they do, I respect their opinion as long as they respect mine

[@hkiolo474]

@@slimetruck ok

[@BestKeptSecret18]

Besides the unnecessary nerf for the instant follow up combo those are some pretty good quality of life changes in my opinion. Thanks for the video as usual!

[@kurimiaisukurimu]

It wouldn't call these nerfs, more like fixes.

[@kiennguyentrong1897]

I don’t care about the rest. Nerfing the cross attack was the best thing that could be done to this boss. The fact that you can’t dodge it like 90% of the time is just BS. It’s the only thing I have against this boss other than the over-the-top flashy light by Miquella.

[@fireman6986]

All your whining paid off 🥰 FS always listens to whiny babies like you

[@alexanderscholudew5652]

you can still get hit on midroll

[@LuckyLiarK]

Did not notice that they also remove hitbox from gravity rising. Thanks Ongbal.

[@grayfoxpianist11]

I don't know if it's the Stockholm syndrome speaking, but slowing the attacks down as much as they did takes away some of the Prime of Prime Radahn. The bullet hell lightshow was in desperate need of nerfing, so that's a welcome update, but everything else feels maybe a step too far?

[@TaroTrashBin]

I personally liked the fight pre nerf, though the particle effects being toned down is extremely welcomed

[@QuantumFishFTW]

Stockholm syndrome in action

[@gamingveteran2312]

​@@QuantumFishFTWOr someone can just like a fight how it was?

[@TaroTrashBin]

@@QuantumFishFTW I dont mind the choice to make him slower, but it feels a bit overdone for me personally. I initially played the DLC blind at RL1 so maybe fighting him again at a leveled up character is skewing my perspective

[@keiz5052]

@@QuantumFishFTWcan mfs just not like a fight ???

[@Dmitri_Ivanovich]

They actually listen, that's very nice of them. That's a good nerf I think. Not to the point that it's easy now, but addresses the most annoying issues. Not sure about bloodflame slash and meteor slam changes - didn't seem to be the issue, but I'll take it.

[@luwinkre2371]

So you are telling me I don't need to circle around him like an idiot to not get hit?

[@LukeOBrien-e7u]

I know finallyyyy

[@HidinRebel]

@@LukeOBrien-e7u couldn't imagine being so bad you need the last boss nerfed. Sad.

[@oppenheimer2074]

Nah the cross slash attack is complete bullsh*t, you're telling me I need to perfect frame dodge an attack that comes out in 0,5 second? That also takes half of my HP in one slash? Nah man they needed to nerf that

[@TheSastoke]

​@HidinRebel What really is sad is trying to act superior over a video game boss. Before you say it, I beat him w/o summons two times before the patch and I can still understand why fromsoft made these changes

[@MoreLoreThenThereSeems]

@@HidinRebel bait used to be believable

[@ELDENLORD89]

I struggled on Radahn for over week with hundreds of losses. I ended up turning the fight into Sekiro using the deflecting hard tear. I spent so much time learning his move set and trying to figure out ways to squeeze out damage. This nerf is probably one of the most aggressive I’ve ever seen a boss get an any Souls/like game. This effectively makes him a cake walk if you’ve spent as much time on him as people who learned his move set. He’ll obviously still be hard for new comers but this is effectively punishment for being a menace during launch. To people who are only getting to him now you effectively fighting a cripple and I’m not over exaggerating lol

[@QuantumFishFTW]

I disagree. All they've done is remove all the cheap bs from this fight.

[@T4RN15H3D]

​​@@QuantumFishFTWI'm sorry, but this is the final boss of a completely optional dlc made by Fromsoftware. It deserves to be bullshit. While I'm happy that the particle effects and cross slash were toned down, that was literally all they needed to touch. Not the entirety of his kit. He feels so much less satisfying to conquer now that I can't even call him my favorite boss anymore.

[@nDarien]

I defeated him prenerf via parries which made the fight more easier. Since i have good practice with it.

[@mothgoth0]

Bless you Micheal Zaki

[@Iniwid]

Seems like they got rid of the things that felt the least fun/most unfair while not needlessly kneecapping him. I'm for it!

[@randomuruk7230]

He is a joke

[@nyquilfilthy7557]

Of course - they only needed to fix a couple very specific things, but went ahead and tweaked the whole boss, making the flow of the fight very different. Not a fan personally, but I never had any issues with the light effects myself, only the cross slash

[@stillleaf4494]

I can’t lie. I enjoyed the instant follow up. Really keeps you on your toes and it was a fair attack

[@bengamincopper6508]

Honestly I just thought the cross slash was the only thing that needed fixing

[@Laoruperteen18]

I feel like the hitbox removal on his meteor slam wasnt needed, the registration for the hit is VERY obvious, but outside of that, reasonable nerfs. removing his unreactable cross slash follow up was a good call, it was impossible to dodge the first hit but avoid the second, unless you blocked or did a backstep chain, which REALLY goes against the mechanical philosophy of souls games where you can dodge anything in the game.

[@AR-bj5et]

Check some of the hitbox vids on him, the hitbox of that attack inflates massively when he does the jump, well beyond the animation. Removing it completely was overkill, but tweaking its size in some way would definitely have been nice

[@nightscout9979]

A backstep chain is just dodge-rolling without a directional input, so that's not really against the mechanical philosophy.

[@HellecticMojo]

Love the changes. The meteor summon not having a hitbox feels most unnecessary of the nerfs, but just having more downtime between attacks feel great

[@gugg2216]

I feel like the only necessary changes were the cross slash and the reduced flashbang

[@Niffy817]

Yeah I feel like they over nerfed him

[@ResponsibleToTheRealm]

Good god, that cross slash combo nerf was way overdue. But he's too easy now. They only needed to nerf that initial cross slash combo.

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

And the lighting being too damn bright haha. But other than these two things... They should have left everything else alone.

[@Vot21]

​@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 Nah, the lightning was great, people are just blind

[@azuredream9032]

Very reasonable. Even tho i defeated him pre-nerf albeit with summons it was still ridiculously hard imo even with the blessings maxed out. He had very little opportunities to counter, barely gave u time to breathe, and the hitboxes and tracking were insane. Dont even get me started on the light effects 2nd phase.

[@zekexanadu4707]

It gets a “Very Good” carving thrown from me. Appears to have gone from ‘obnoxious and difficult’ to ‘difficult but fun’. Will definitely need to cross the fog and feel it out to be sure, but I’m more willing to try him again now. GG FromSoft, for real

[@Naman-q6y]

Except for the lighting effects, radahn was a OG fight no nerf was needed, it encourages players to gather scadu fragments .... (I am truly going to miss this fight, like malenia they did radahn dirty)

[@EdgeOfDarknezz]

Nah fuck cross slash. Literally only light effect of light pillar and cross slash needed a nerf. Now it looks like free win lol

[@Raykon333]

Funnily enough, I've got to Radahn on the last day before the nerf, tried for 2 hours and didn't enjoy the fight much. On the next day the update came out, though I was unaware of the nerf, but the fight suddenly became so much more fun and I beat it in 5 more hours, so it was still challenging enough.

[@I-Love-My-Family1432]

Dam I wanted to fight him at its strongest

[@luffy8788]

W mentality

[@ProbablyAdson]

Went from the best boss in the game to the best boss in the game but the gap is bigger now

[@D0KJA14]

FROM TRASH TO ESAY

[@ahmedbudair8391]

Naaaah saying this is the best while mesmer is there? I always considered this boss just for showcase purposes, never felt fun with him even after defeating him two times

[@isaiahwebb3743]

@@ahmedbudair8391RELLANA BETTER

[@GearsOfCake]

Malenia>Radahn>Messmer​@@ahmedbudair8391

[@estebannomas3542]

facts