Elden Ring How to Swap the Ultimate Guide for All

[@Jeenine]

To know more about Inventory Layouts, check out this follow-up to the Ultimate Guide: Elden Ring Everything Inventory Layouts: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXXYnWqql52Cr5I

[@EldenXord]

Hey man, how do i swap like that on pc?

[@ventuspvp]

"The only people who complain about swaps are people who cant do it" Truer words have never been said

[@HZ-zv2ln]

I can swap really well actually, still do not respect swaps on duels tho, sound tryhard to start using every item possible just so you can win, it's not a skilless thing by any means, you need to have a lot of skill to swap but still very tryhard, and winning with the same gear as you started even if you are in disadvantage need way more skill in base combat mechanics to win even if you don't have the weapon needed to counter your opponent

[@xuanathan]

I can do it alright, but I typically don't do it in casual duels, I know damn well my opponent can't swap like I can, and its not simple tech like backstep reversals, I whip em out in invasions because damn it is satisfying to just kill hosts in this game, I wanna do it by any means necessary.

[@Jeenine]

@@HZ-zv2ln Cope Hard-er

[@HZ-zv2ln]

@@xuanathan Like I said my only problems with swaps are in casual duels, swap in invasions are most of the time necessary, you are like trying to win against a host with 2 more phantoms you are god-damn right in using everything to your advantage

[@HZ-zv2ln]

@@Jeenine my whole argument after someone said cope: 💥

[@senzubean2122]

Alright! After rearranging my inventory for 6 hours I think I’m finally ready to rearrange my inventory one more time

[@danielmontilla1197]

Swapping has a historical place in Souls PvP culture. I remember seeing a full armor swap in Oolacile for the first time in my life and being totally perplexed by it like, "wtf was that?! Was that... a hacker? How?!" That's skill refinement and we're all better for it.

[@Crota0100]

Yeah I remember the true sweats on DS1 would swap to Hornet ring and sometimes weapon swap before a parry. I also remember some would swap to Ring of Steel Protection if they knew they were gonna get backstabbed or riposted mid animation. Dudes were crazy good back then.

[@warriordinag3921]

How could I refuse with a claymore thumbnail?

[@spzm3665]

Goated

[@Wings-9960]

Holy shit is that a god damn claymore thumbnail? Absolute god tier taste

[@revaronsdemise5366]

i just wanna say thank you for making this, i’ve been watching your vids and seen how you switch mid-battle and i’ve wanted to do so but i wondered “how in the world am i going to do that?” but this vid is a huge help.

[@Eternal_Placidity]

Great video dude, I've been trying to learn swapping and this is just what I need

[@lamellarm6546]

You did a great job on this video. I enjoyed it immensely

[@JamesMBC]

1:11 That swap into Giantdad set.. exquisite!

[@Aklloll]

That thumbnail and title hit me with some nostalgia, good to see the guide type videos coming back

[@scrobinja8566]

DUDE, is that Clare from Claymore? I'm literally reading the manga right now, up to volume 21, first manga I have ever read. Would make one hell of a game, I have been picturing it in my head for the last two weeks, combat mechanics, abilities, everything. I think its her insignia, I cant quite make it out. I went back to the anime, because Elden Ring reminded me so much of the anime. Anyway, cool.

[@GODHXND]

just as i was trying to learn how to swap in my own, you release this video. you dropped this 👑👑👑

[@RexDolo]

Yoo the og style thumbnail

[@bread7690]

My hands hurts just think about this, but I respect the people who can do this well, the very definition of dexterity.

[@twinarcher8123]

I watched a guy use 6 scimitars with different ash of wars on each of them, so he could switch to an ash of war better for the situation he was in. That was cool

[@gunide]

I cannot swap. I do not care to learn it. I also have zero problem with it.

[@iamamish]

Amazing explanations of the history and the strategy. Funny enough just yesterday somebody left a comment on one of my videos suggesting that Fromsoft bans players for hardswaps.

[@Jeenine]

lol that is actually pretty funny

[@abysswatcherbutibitethedus872]

Mhmm. Haven't seen this thumbnail since your greatsword guide

[@Xbigxhatxloganx]

Bro I been scrolling through my whole damn inventory with my claw handing lmao gotta start using the shoulder buttons to get to where I want faster. Thx jeen.

[@moabtv869]

Bruh what's crazy is I started rewatching Claymore 3 days ago. Goated thumbnail Jeenine!

[@واحد-م1ذ]

Hearing beethoven's 9th while getting educated in souls mechanics is quite mesmerising

[@Crowned_PvP]

I love history type videos and also love your reference to plsbemywaifu's video on you lmao

[@Jeenine]

That plsbemywaifu's vid means a lot to me, probably the best memory i will have of ds3

[@Reelix789]

@@Jeenine It actually means a lot to many of us too. It (and several other of his videos) is representative of a type of community legacy that I don't think ER will sadly ever be able to spawn.

[@inl]

Increíble video como siempre. Gracias por toda la info!

[@garrettewell9777]

“You dare disrespect me.. in my jungle?” This vid fucking rocks

[@FireGames25]

I remember getting, while doing survival, hatemailed saying "I block hard swappers" 😑

[@brandonmcintosh4598]

Yay Claymore picture again

[@Steampianist]

Because of ash of war I can Conceal Swap my Soft Swap Shield with a Parry to a Shield with no AOW that way I might be able to surprise an enemy with my main weapons AOW cause they think that I can't do my ash of war without two handing also I didn't know you can customize your layout :(( this helps so much

[@alafosca5724]

I have been stuck as a player despite having good distance and timing management aswell as good preditions, because I never really went and took the time to learn swapping (other than being a but impatient and fearless sometimes) so I have been waiting for this tutorial for a loooong time... Thanks JeeNine.

[@RAWKITHED]

The problem with me has always been about swapping while running (holding circle).

[@ClashMagique]

In ds3 I rebound the select button to square (middle left button) so that I can hold the roll button (X for me) to run with the middle joint of my thumb, and the tip of my thumb can press the square button to select things in the menu

[@Reelix789]

That's where claw grip comes into play. To elaborate: the first step imo is practicing bringing your index finger over your thumb to take care of both the start button/touchpad and the R3 camera control. While your middle finger takes care of R1/R2 and your thumb handles the circle button, as with a normal grip. From there, you practice holding circle with the edge of your thumb, so that you're also able to press X with your thumb. This allows you to run and dodge while turning your camera at the same time and to quickly open your menu with your index without letting go of circle and to keep turning your camera while moving (sprinting) around in your menu. Next/alternative step is to hold circle with the tip of your index, as it might be more comfortable in the long run. What I do now is press circle with the side of my index finger so that the tip of the index always rests near the start button/touchpad and the thumb never leaves the R3 stick, if not to quickly press X to select in your menu. It takes a while to develop the claw grip style that's most comfortable to you, and it is perfectly natural to actually switch from one style to the other during gameplay initially until you find what works out best for you.

[@DreamskyDance]

@@Reelix789 I tried claw grip a bit... in pve at first to get used to it. Its ok, it works..i kinda feel that i have better control at times and can react faster, but also i get totally fumbled sometimes. I just dont get how to hold circle with the edge of my thumb... i didnt get that part. Also, my hand gets extremely cramped after short amount of time in that grip, idk maybe i am doing it wrong. We are speaking about right hand only, right, anyway i try to use thumb for camera and index finger for buttons and other fingers for r1 / r2... and in normal grip i use thumb for camera and buttons and index finger for r1 / r2.

[@Reelix789]

@@DreamskyDance first and foremost, I commend you for your mindset. Looking for ways to improve without fear of leaving your comfort zone means you're already 2 thirds of the way. I think it all boils down to what any kind of new physical activity entails, except on a much smaller scale. You need to work in steps. See how little of your thumb can be used to effectively control the circle button, get comfortable with that and work from there. As far as hand pains are concerned, it is a perfectly natural part of the process. It's something new that your body needs to adjust into. Part of it is listening to what your body tells you, and giving it time to adjust and part of it is what it's telling you you're just doing plain wrong, and to look for alternatives. Depending on your hands, wrists and arms position as well as the way you're sitting (or standing, I don't judge), being fluid with your controller orientation helps a lot. I find a lot of the time the controller will move its axis in my hands by as far as 45 degrees, whether it's from side to side or front to back. Let the controller move around to accommodate more comfortable positions for your wrists, hands and fingers. A lot of it is simply just the time it takes to adjust, and a lot of it is also simply how tense you are in one given moment. I play some street fighter as well and even tho I play that with a regular grip, trust me when I say, many times, pain comes from excessive tension (which is more than natural, we're getting invested in intensely competitive games.) Practicing in PVE is absolutely part of the process. Practice parrying and swapping. Then practice running in circles or in random directions while swapping. For hours, if you need to (and so far as you're enjoying yourself, of course). Little by little, your body will adjust and will tell you what you're doing wrong, what's worth powering through and what's not, and what you could (should) possibly be doing differently. I've thought many times about making videos on the topic, and I still might. Pepp410 made a quite good video about the basics a few years back. You could look that up, or even feel free to look me up (Twitch) to share thoughts and ideas, that would be my pleasure. Ultimately, you're already on the the right path with your mindset so I have no doubt you'll keep finding lots of small things that will help your comfort and your effectiveness. As long as you embrace the fact that it takes time, and you listen to what your body tells you (sometimes your hands just need breaks, after all it's perfectly natural when you push the limits of your physical abilities, like with any athlete practicing any type of activity. Obviously they take it in small steps, day by day, and this is no different) Hope I helped! Again, congratulations on the mindset. It's more than 80% of the people commenting here are willing to commit to.

[@DreamskyDance]

@@Reelix789 tnx for tips :D Yeah, listening for what body tells me..i should incorporate that in more stuff then gaming, i had swollen elbow two months back because i did some non standard pushup variations ( sideways pushups and archer pushups ) in my daily exercise with bad form.. :P Anyway.. i am on a playthrough with a new character and i am trying to use claw grip as much as i can. I think i will pose myself a challenge to defeat Malenia ( and probably some other bosses )with claw grip and swaps ( waterfowl dance -> swap to bhs weapon and not dodge it the normal way, she is parried -> swap to crit weapon... etc ) as a practice. I think that would be a good exercise to practice, alongside ways to practice you mentioned. Btw, about tension... in a game Control i noticed that i held controller more tense than in either of Dark Souls and Elden Ring for example and had some pain when playing for longer as you mentioned you had in street fighter. But although i dont have full experience with claw grip yet, i was amazed a few times that it seems like i have better control over my character and can better position, maybe because of better camera control.

[@Fomfonicus]

Now do the same thing, but as an IGN article.

[@pictux424]

"What if you have butter-fingers?" Why you gotta do me like that, bro?

[@WithinandThroughout]

He’s opened Pandora’s box

[@eyegonofcarim]

so disappointed, I thought you would teach how to swap games out of elden ring

[@LeoLeeGaming]

I've been tempted to learn MnK for swapping. I just can't claw grip controllers. Smallish hands and a permanently damaged right hand/wrist. Sucks.

[@SomebodyBanThatGuy]

except its bugged if you bind sprint to bumper or trigger…

[@horseman8349]

Love the redditer voice. But let's be honest, trying to get a noob to become a monke swapper is like trying to get an alcoholic to quit and only drink water.

[@brockb6]

its pronaunced Svaihander my man

[@SpaceToastC2C]

This video gave me great tips when neutral swapping clean underwear when i got jumped by a revinant in the shaded castle

[@kimlee6643]

Claymore? Very nice.

[@_Atlas.]

I never would have thought swapping is something people would get so tight over. Obviously people who complain about it can't do it. There's nothing to be upset about other than people having more skill than you.

[@DreamskyDance]

I think ill try to practice swapping a bit, thank you. I am not against swapping at all ( and not a redditor as well ), but i had pvp-ed in DS3 and ER without swapping a long time and recently ( this week ) i've been in few situations where i would literally gotten a kill ( and wouldnt die as a result of missing a kill on one out of 2 or 3 opponents ) if i just had halberd with longer reach instead of claymore in my hands.

[@afawux5863]

Great video, I remember the era well in ds3 in which dexterity coridnation merged into no off hand parry tool with wa to shield swap parry baits to wa swap wake ups that still centered around parries and style. This was later incorporated into bs fishing by very few in which is still style based, then your personal meta efficiency emerged in which a full arsonal is avalible with little bias (neutral) in respect to reacting/adaptability. Along with a sort of muscle memory in which focus's on always killing regardless of the enemies skill. Certainly an efficent means to focus on wining, progress your abilities and have fun doing so.

[@kunaikat2232]

ive been looking for a video on this!! thank you!!

[@nuts7883]

When you were saying "thumb" I kept hearing "tongue" and was like......

[@burtburtist]

cant wait for the dlc so they can finally let me move items in my inventory without having to drop or transfer them to get them arranged properly. surely its coming right.

[@Nagram_]

And from this day forward, a new wave of individuals capable of actually playing pvp appeared in the lands between, a group came to be known as ''Jeenine swappers'' by the complaining crowd.

[@GlaiveMistress]

I used steam controller configuration to bind menu to the ps5 controller pad, that way it is way easier for me to hit the menu because the usual button is too small and I miss it. I also bind it to touch so I don't actually have to press

[@EldenXord]

guys, how do i swap like that on pc?

[@sislegend]

It's great to see the reasonings behind swaps outside of adapting for more favorable matchups as well as maximizing crits. I did not think there were additional layers to Menu Swapping. This is quite the informative video, I cannot wait to see the followup 😁

[@fiasworkshop]

you say that and have a dks1 red eye orb as your pfp. privileges revoked poser.

[@kingofgamez83]

Appreciate this video💯

[@oibraizolebulla]

G9 got a PHD in FROM PVP

[@Jeenine]

I also got a PHD in microspacing

[@oibraizolebulla]

@@Jeenine It is honestly a great help man so thanks

[@Kaiserredbeard]

16:50 as a quick reminder, nice haddrawing btw. :)

[@honestdog8583]

Jeenine is the best content creator in the fromsoft world.

[@naz8675]

thank you for this video J9! ive been trying to get better as hard swapping lately and felt that i cant do it nearly fast enough but this video has helped me a lot!

[@R3s1dent]

Haha jokes on you I always use claw grip on my ps controller bc I used to have a Xbox and imma have arthritis in ten years

[@kevinanderson6367]

Great video. It would be a cool to see an invasion break down series where you go over every kind of invasion situation and how you would adapt to varying circumstances. A few topics could be like what equipment you'd use, when to play aggressive, and when to play defensive, etc.

[@memoryylosss5013]

Swapped his way right into my heart he did

[@tomasoon]

Hey j9 do you think Elden ring will reach the point where the Pvp would be as competitive as Ds3 was in it's peak? I've been doing duels and some invasions, but there's a big skill gap between what I used to encounter in ds3 compared to ER. (I know ER is relatively new) but Do you think can we reach that ds3's peak in terms of skill and competitivenes? sorry if my question it doesn't seems to be related to the post, but the idea came to my mind because I barely see weapon swaping and these kind of strategies in the average meta invaders/duelist

[@Jeenine]

Its possible but a lot of the good players I know are holding off until the game gets more balanced. Future is uncertain, but still, ER sold ALOT, so i expect a DLC and whatever patch that comes with it

[@tomasoon]

@@Jeenine So i Hope to ER get balanced as soon as posible haha!

[@Kopesy]

Not a fan of hard swapping myself. Always been a soft-swapper though, and continue to have my entire loadout equipped because I'm a bit of an RPer in that regard. However, I don't have a problem with other people that hard-swap. It's gotten me salty from time to time, but if you're able, and able to do it well, then that's just part and part of trying to attain the highest skill ceiling possible, and fair play to those that can.

[@monsieurdorgat6864]

Honestly, it's kind of the only skill ceiling available 🤷 the games since DS3 and onwards have been incredibly shallow otherwise. Honestly, I feel like it's borderline intended, otherwise Fromsoft would create a generalized inventory limit or only let you swap some things at checkpoints. They kind of expect you to swap weapons based on circumstances (e.g., use a scythe against a shield, use a sword against fast enemies) and this is just the logical extreme of that. It's still cool that the unique, "build defining" special weapons are still unique to your build, but now your build is more stat-based rather than loadout based.

[@justmi5978]

@@monsieurdorgat6864 what are some tech that didn't transfer to elden ring from ds3 other than hitstun swapping?

[@monsieurdorgat6864]

@@justmi5978 Oh, most of the tech from DS3 transferred to Elden Ring. Where most tech was lost in the transition from DS2 to DS3. DS2 was kind of a "sweet spot" for tech IMO because it existed, but wasn't essential for basic success. While DS1 had the most tech, it was also the most frustrating in nature and was centralized on backstabs. DS3 almost doesn't have tech besides estus cancelling and hitstun swapping. I think Estus cancelling is the only DS3 tech that doesn't involve the equipment menu.

[@justmi5978]

@@monsieurdorgat6864 I see what you mean. Atleast menu swapping still exists

[@monsieurdorgat6864]

@@justmi5978 Yeah! It's something to differentiate players, and I think it's kind of interesting that it was honestly just untapped potential in previous games. I guess in previous games you didn't need it - the pre-weapon mechanics were robust enough that swapping weapons wasn't as important as using them well. DS3, having shallower pre-weapon mechanics and extremely weapon-centric build success, makes sense that it was the game that menu swapping went from fun oddity to the most essential technique for skilled play. Elden Ring is just DS3... But more lol

[@geneschwartz]

im actually surprised at the explanation to this sequence at 17:35 . Its similar to guitar where there's sequences that can be played with different fingers and its preference. in terms of least movement or stretching what are the downsides to (pressing start with index) shifting thumb from right stick pressing x twice, then down arrow with left index, then start with right index. your not attacking while in menu so the index doesn't need to be ready on r1 and r2. this is how i started to practice the swaps bc i thought theres no way hes doing the thumb stretchy thing im doing. lol what do you think jee?

[@BloodyFinger1661630]

Can't wait to watch this after work, gonna practice more to better my inner scrub.

[@ottosan_]

Huh, I always hit start with my index while my thumb both holds sprint and clicks x

[@ThirdMyth]

Ppl complain about swaps? It’s the pinnacle of Souls pvp skill. Just impressive to always watch

[@krench421]

Man whoever came up with the concept for this swapping like this is a damn pioneer.

[@sphony]

This video helps alot. Im already using this technique in the game and its a game changer.

[@Loovin123]

I’m sorry play what way u want but my body cringes every time I see someone sweat this hard.

[@DrakewqSouls]

OMG WEAPON MENU SWAPPING EXPLOIT 😡 ROLL CATCH EXPLOIT 😡😡 AND INVADING EXPLOIT?!?!?!? 🤬

[@fullmetalathlete]

What a great video. As a souls noob who never played any of the previous games this stuff is fascinating. I've been looking to get into invasions recently and as keyboard and mouse player I was starting to believe doing these kinds of hard swaps I've seen you top tier players use was impossible. So hearing you say it can actually be better is really a mind blowing revelation. I've been able to organize my inventory and get faster and getting in and out of menus but the one thing I can't figure out on m+k is how to directly switch between the different equipment menus. For example I constantly see Chasethebro go and swap to the crimson tear scarab helm and then directly to the armor menu for the full bloom set before he uses his heal flask. But I cannot find any keybind on the PC to allow me to go between the helmet and armor slots directly without going back to the main equipment screen in between. Do you know if that's possible on k+m and what the default keys are if so? Are there any good guides you'd recommend for hard swapping with k+m? I really want to be able to do what I see you guys doing. Thank you for the great video 🙏🏼

[@vini9208]

dudeeee awesome video

[@knightrazor]

actual guide pog pog

[@ChazFoulstone]

As a basic bitch soulsborne player, I know nothing about PvP and I'm only just learning about swap, so that "well, how do I know about this?" into the IT WAS ME reveal made me laugh soooo hard. Thanks for the awesome video and the laugh!

[@TheP3AC3MAK3R]

On keyboard esc is the menu button and it is terrible as its hard to reach while running... Good luck with swaping to fellow K&M

[@zytha2890]

People complain about weapon swapping? I find it flattering personally lol You needed 7 different weapons to deal with my 1 or 2 On top of that it's more of a hindrance than anything for yourself It's super obvious when someone is swapping stuff mid fight

[@SleepingChimes]

swapping while running while moving camera on the xbox controller is hell.

[@minecraftmaster12245]

play claw

[@SleepingChimes]

@@minecraftmaster12245 the very clawing on the xbox controller is what i’m speaking to

[@HatTrickzTV]

Yoooo is that thumbnail from claymore!?

[@tortue_]

1:17 stop this frame and look, tell me this isn't profaned capital poison area entry doorway with the abyss babies inside. I think this tells how they have a level design formula that is recognizable, fromsoft really does their work unique.

[@Humandust666]

LMFAO that gundyrs swap animation at the 2 min mark was legendary.

[@DASCSWEM]

The only thing that sucks about hardswaps on keyboard is that they forgot to include the ability rebind menu! This was a feature in DS3, wth Fromsoft!

[@Ryu_MMO]

Great Video! :)

[@johndoe-nh9zi]

top content my bro

[@HomerJZoro]

Man I thought I knew how to swap just like memorizing mortal combat combos. But you actually go in depth about what weapons to swap to and ash of war to throw them off in combat very cool G9. I learned a lot. I play pc but use xbox controller so i use my right thumb for the D-pad so I can still move with my left stick

[@caiqueportolira]

PC gamers have to press ESC? What happened to mapping the menu key to tab?

[@imoscared]

This thumbnail made me think I traveled back to 2019

[@justmi5978]

Clare? Based Claymore enjoyer.

[@Joandersonso]

Not being able to change menu/inventory key from ESC to Q in Elden Ring ruined my muscle memory on swaps :(

[@coldhardjayard5424]

epic vid???😳😳😳❗️❗️❗️

[@dillpicklelongsword7916]

A 4 back paddle controller is a must for elden ring try hards. No claw grip needed. I even flipped all my Dpad buttons with my shape buttons turning it into a left-handed controller. not including the thumbsticks. Then attach all the new dpad buttons to the back paddles so your thumb never has to leave the left thumbstick.

[@AJD...]

Yo man it's all about the Lapp armor I died 🤣

[@ray12a]

someone stole my headphones and it’ll be a while before i can give this my full attention but could you please explain how you’re effortlessly able to navigate inventory menus while sprinting? you must be clawing and i know you have to queue sprint before opening but (maybe this is operator error or i just have the wrong idea) the subsequent commands to get to whatever desired item slot always mess me up

[@Otori2]

Where's the thumbnail from?

[@johnerous1943]

A manga called "claymore"

[@FyterianTV]

redittors 😂

[@doctorhunter5553]

i've always thought that quick swaps being invented by the community is one of the coolest techniques and most of the stuff i agree with strongly especially how using the same weapon, AOW, spells and etc can make you predictable. i've never had a great dexterity for techniques like this but i had fun excuting them to catch my opponent off guard, i never thought that using a weapon to deceive the opponent than quick swap to another weapon to punish them instantly though. honestly seeing people performing quickswaps is pretty badass but sadly i don't see alot of people performing it, in pve it has helped me on certain situations without equipping a second weapon that could cause me to fatroll. great video wish i see more skilled pvp players in elden ring if only the dmg wasn't so crazy or multiplayer limit being 4, i miss the chaos of ds 3 anyway keep up the great content.

[@Smaxy_]

I should read Claymore again

[@Reelix789]

So many people in the comments still complaining about it being an exploit and how they wish it wasn't in the game. As someone said, only people who complain about it are people who can't do it. But it's really not even that hard to learn and doesn't take long to master at all. ANYONE can do it. What it really all boils down to is incredible amounts of LAZINESS. Quite baffling.

[@coffeecurry4954]

I think it's more entitlement to be honest. Lots of people feel that hard swapping ruins role playing, and so they try to get it removed by taking the moral high ground by insisting hardswap is an exploit.

[@PureFilth23]

Might try swaping, never done it before but sounds fun. Good video 👌

[@iger9554]

don’t, builds exist for a reason, this kid ruins the purpose of it all

[@minecraftmaster12245]

@@iger9554 cry

[@coldhardjayard5424]

exactly what this video hopes to achieve bro! One thing to note, it's really not important to be the fastest swapper. Sometimes I will have my menu open and just wait for the right opportunity to neutral swap. You don't wanna rush it and get punished If you do eventually wanna get faster tho, I highly recommend swapping after parries. Even just a simple weapon swap or helm swap will do wonders for your speed

[@RobertBlue12]

@@iger9554 do you really think a build is limited to only one weapon?

[@gladz032]

I got my ass annihilated in DS3 learning to Hardswap on my own, I'm glad that PvP gods like you are guiding the new into gettin' gud, truly love this community.

[@a-youtube-rat]

0:45 so out of character

[@aetry]

sort by new replies for reddit seething lol

[@golantrevize515]

That video is so generous of you, G9. It’s precise, articulate, clear and accurate. Very well structured too. And that note to Reddit whinners was the icing on the cake! 🥳