Elden Ring Lore - Origins of the Magma Wyrms

Have you indulged in Dragon Communion? If so it's important that you know the consequences. Let's discuss the lore of the Magma Wyrms and those who wished to become dragons.
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[@HatakeHachiko]

if consuming one too many dragon hearts turns us into a magma wyrm, at least we can finally ask our significant others the ultimate question: would you still love me if i turned into a wyrm?

[@merleetomlin6218]

DLC needs to provide the ability to transform into a dragon like the DS games

[@doctor_markus9042]

That would be awesome

[@mrugod]

No

[@kiban_]

Imagine getting a DMC style Dragon Trigger, that would be hilarious

[@dankdaze42069]

​@@mrugodYes besides more people agree it would be cool

[@merleetomlin6218]

@@mrugod 😂 you make a compelling argument

[@AegisKHAOS]

Theodorix really stood out when I learned he was once a troll. Lore-wise, it really stood out how tragic taking dragon communion was. He was certainly one of the tougher fights for sure. Gameplay, on the other hand, I just keep killing and eating, and, oh look, cool eyes.

[@Volti-Vagra]

the name Theodorix just reminded me of the "which of the chipmunks are getting the best head?" meme goddamnit i forgot that for a reason

[@oysterscrolls]

definitely theodore

[@thenobody7509]

So, personally. I view the process of turning into a magma wyrm as a curse. The heart still beats even after the dragon is slayed so perhaps upon eating the heart through the dragons blood it is able to curse those who seek its power. Thus dooming them to hunger for more hearts until eventually they become a dragon. This might also explain why Eleonora joined mohg. Having power over blood perhaps mohg was able to somewhat break Eleanora's curse while allowing her to keep the power. Perhaps the two powers cancel each other out. Which would explain eleanora's normal eyes. Ultimately this could mean Eleonora was in full control of herself and was actively trying to defeat mohg from within. Actions speak much louder then words. So Eleanora was forced to kill yura to keep her cover perhaps.

[@jarlwhiterun7478]

Why add a period after "so, personally."?

[@iamthereddemon20]

The consequences of wanting to have a snack

[@jacktheomnithere2127]

not that. more like consequences of having the wrong thing for a snack.

[@uwo4876]

I didn't know that you can get yura to help with the first dragon thanks for the knowledge 👍

[@AegisKHAOS]

Me neither. I just brute forced my way till I killed it.

[@_SauceMasterL]

@@AegisKHAOSthis is the way

[@frankiefromky]

I think it would be so cool if you could consume so many dragon hearts that your tarnished actually turns into a maga-wyrm and then you have to play the rest of the game like that.

[@Arctus69420]

Dude I love how you make lore videos about like the enemies and stuff and not just focus on the big bosses it really answers a lot of the questions I have during my play through I’ll like see an enemy and be like I wonder what his story is and then see you have a video about them it’s awesome

[@square-table-gaming]

If there's ever an enemy we don't have be sure to request them!

[@HeyGuy4321]

WORMFACES ARE MY FAVORITE I WANNA BE ONE

[@zenebean]

Always thought it was interesting that ancient dragons don't drop hearts for communion, instead just their corpses appearing at the communion sites. Base dragons like Agheel are a descent of them, so maybe trying to gain an offshoot's power just creates even more earthly dragon

[@Umbra_Ursus]

It'd be awesome to see a wyrm that held onto it's humanity. Imagine fighting one that's decked out in custom banished knight gear, and fights in a clearly smarter fashion.

[@KingPangoLin]

Just wanted to say, no matter where I am, Raya Lucaria, or the depths of the haligtree, the calming voice and interesting lore helps me pull through. I beat the Elden beast listening to your lore to study to, for heavens sake

[@square-table-gaming]

You have no idea how happy it makes me to read this comment

[@elijahherstal776]

SOMEONE: "So, Tarnished- you have sought both the Flame of Frenzy and Dragon Communion in your journeys." MY TARNISHED: "Yep." SOMEONE: "For power?" MY TARNISHED: "Cool eyes." SOMONE: "My Brother in Marika you are wearing the Raging Wolf helm." MY TARNISHED: "...I got like five gallons of Celestial Mountain Dew, keep talking trash."

[@SterbsMcGurbs]

I'm workshopping a joke about magma wyrms and chlamydia.

[@efaristi9737]

Is being a wyrm such a bad thing ? Do they lose all sapience ? Are they still mortals ? Are they mad ? 10:59 Or until someone kill them for their hearts.

[@Fingledoodler]

I didn't think till today that wyrms were not just humans or dragon hunters. Its really cool that you did a video solely on the wyrms even though you covered a lot of them in previous topics. I still learned a few things. You guys can definitely make more dedicated videos of things you think you covered in previous videos.

[@HenryGreenEngine3]

It's no surprise that dragon communion is ruinous.

[@Scadu_Orhyn]

The Magma wyrms lore is an awesome mini-lore part of the game. And, by and large, so is the lore of the Descending Dragon’s Heritage in this game!

[@forgeoflife]

Magma Wyrms always reminds me of monster hunter anytime i fight them

[@Moocow3166]

Same. I get a lot of monster hunter vibes while playing this game

[@NateFletcher286]

Just wanted to say I've been watching here since the elden ring lore videoes started! It's been such a great time being able to learn so much lore about the game through this channel. Thanks for all he videos you've made!

[@square-table-gaming]

Thank you!

[@melomet3789]

In my head canon, my main is destined to be a moonlight wyrm after serving Ranni and seeing to her Age of Stars

[@rathosalpha]

I dont think there are enough dragons left to transform you, so the tarnished will just always be hungrey

[@errorcode9542]

I like dragon communion very much as concept In my first playthrough I rolleplayed as dragon hunter driven mad(yellow flame) and realising the ruination they would bring by slaying all dragons and using a needle to seal their hunger and flames I'd love a dragon communion ending maybe we could become the dragon god by killing the disappeared dragon god before subcoming to the hunger that can't be stilled now that all dragons are wiped out

[@epiccthulu]

Ranni will keep my tarnished safe D:

[@dirac_dydx1830]

Instructions unclear, consumed a hundred dragon hearts and am now a lizard. Halp.

[@OneStarRating]

The Magma Wyrms remind me of Alligator Turtles in appearance.

[@diredier]

Love your channel, thanks for all the lore

[@thelionofjudah5318]

I think magma wyrm is a lazy unknown way of getting crucible like powers.

[@eggstinater]

Thank you for the video on Magma Wyrms!

[@jtkane317]

I just realized that the voice actor for Yura sounds like Lemmy. Fantastic.

[@Limonenwolf]

Thank you for that great video! Dear, oh dear, i think its too late for my tarnished. I ate the hearts at the altar because i wanted these dragon powers! Wondering why my character's eyes changed and after eating about 20 dragon hearts i found out about the fate ahead. I wonder what the DLC might bring to these who participated in that transgression. Maybe more dragon powers!! Perish the thought.....

[@Mistercodmobilefan8378]

As of course we do bloody hunter yurt questline explaining to us that when eating the dragon heart you be having dragon powers and that, the dragons we fought in the lands between probably ate too many dragon hearts that they themselves became dragons themselves Edit: yura

[@Kenos347]

I always tought he resembles Glaurong from LOTR(Silmarilion)

[@zenebean]

Agreed, I always imagined Glaurung looking like a wingless magma wyrm. A primeval, lizard-like dragon

[@Sheesh7328]

Also to prevent dragon heart addiction you can call the perfumers who can treat it medically.

[@korgclips868]

if the game is beat with you either becoming the chaos lord or taking control of the elden ring, couldn’t you theoretically say with that newfound divine esqe power they could stave off the process of becoming a magma wyrm or perhaps even unlock a new draconic form? also as a bonus but not as significant what if you have a draconian player already, wouldn’t they already be dragon enough combined with the elden ring to avert a magma wyrm transformation?

[@TiberiusRex182]

🎉🎉🎉 we are so close to 50k!

[@nismobug4076]

Lol my first tarnished was a samurai and i went straight for thr moonveil... Thrn started killing dragons for communion... never realizing i was following in the footsteps of that magma wyrm... .thats crazy But i really wanted those eyes!!!

[@DaniGerman1499]

Would be cool if you could fully transform into a magma wyrm for a short time and fight as one lol a man can dream

[@MellowMan339]

I need to make a drake knight build Edit: This is your fault square table for making magma wyrms cool for me again so you did your job

[@square-table-gaming]

I take full responsibility

[@MellowMan339]

@@square-table-gaming then if you havent make a video about the gladiators in the coliseum so i can become a boulder throwing badass or a scarlet rot boulder throwing badass.... or something like that idk i wanna be a strength addict again and finally finish dung eaters ending

[@square-table-gaming]

@@MellowMan339 we have! Check out our video, "duelists of the collesseum"

[@MellowMan339]

@@square-table-gaming welp time to throw boulders and magma, cheers! ❤️

[@ridleydaemonia1134]

Rather than consuming it, why not a dragon heart transplant? 😮

[@NorthWolf97]

I wonder what would happen to a Magma Wyrm that continuously partook in dragon communion. Maybe they would eventually ascend into Ancient Dragons. Or another type of Dragon?

[@square-table-gaming]

I doubt it'd be possible to engage in dragon communion at an altar as a magma wyrm but it's an interesting question.

[@NorthWolf97]

@@square-table-gaming There are the Rune bears. They are noted by Zullie to be turning into Dragons by growing their own Gravel hearts(which pierces their chests) and gaining draconic slits in their eyes. There's also the trailer for the DLC showing a Bear roar incantation. How would a large troll, or even a freaking bear, partake in communion at these altars? Maybe the bears simply eat the gravel of Ancient Dragon instead of hearts of lesser ones. And as such, their transformation isn't cursed? If that could be the case, then a Magma Wyrm could feed the same way and ascend.

[@square-table-gaming]

@@NorthWolf97 These mutations are not the same as dragon communion, communion is a ritualistic eating of the dragon heart that takes place at the altar to gain literal incantations. The trolls were intelligent enough to pray at an altar, the bears are mutating from eating the hearts, but their strength is different as they aren't gaining literal incantations.

[@NorthWolf97]

@@square-table-gaming Makes sense. Although the trailer might prove otherwise with the Bear roar incantation.

[@ShardofWant]

What if I only eat magma wyrm hearts? I’ll still become a wyrm, but at least I’ll be a more noble one.

[@Sheesh7328]

So many edible things in elden ring come with a price, like the dumplings

[@robertsoto5713]

Damn my character should be a magma worm I ate like 20 hearts to learn all the dragon incantations.

[@alpacaofthemountain8760]

Maybe this is why The Dragon Communion seal doesn't boost Placidusax's spells, as it is a truer form of dragon magic

[@thesavagery6696]

It seems anyone who partook in Dragon Communion is cursed. I wonder if it's because they're not supposed to have that power. Idk for some reason it made it think it's some kind of forbidden power.

[@Nemo12417]

A minor note: apparently the original Japanese doesn't describe Dragon Communion as a curse or punishment so much as it is simply dangerous. That's why Theodorix is described as a hero and why Makar is guarding the entrance to the Altus Plateau, despite the implication that they would be aligned with the Golden Order in that case: because they didn't sin. They took a huge risk and paid the price, but the Golden Order doesn't necessarily view them as immoral.

[@square-table-gaming]

I agree, I doubt they would see them as immoral if they were using one to guard the way to the Altus Plateau. I think in the English translation the term curse is being used a bit differently from how we're used to seeing it in Elden Ring. I see "curse" as less literal and more of a "tragic fate."

[@necrogenesis1981]

I’m curious why there are only magma wyrms and not other types considering you can get the abilities of frost and rot dragons as well, do you explain that in another video? Granted a rot wyrm would be an absolute bitch to fight probably so maybe we should be grateful, although Miyazaki could decide to be sadistic and throw in a few in the DLC. Edit: It seems you already explained that here and I missed it.

[@kaimamoonfury1335]

They are a curse to punish those who seek a dragons strength, and yet, at least in my humble opinion, they are 10000000x more annoying than they wyvern style dragons we find everywhere else. The true dragons, as I like to call them, such as Lansseax, are exceptions imo. Like I'm pretty sure that any of the wyrms would actually beat up agheel pretty handily. It is not a curse to be really physically strong, able to spew magma, and still smart enough to stand on two legs and use a huge sword. Also, I don't think the dragon church off the West Coast of limgrave was hidden away, I think that when the meteor hit, it altered the landscape, or in the shattering of the ring, if they're different events, that is.

[@kaimamoonfury1335]

Edited a bit.

[@kyte5648]

So if you only consume a small amount of dragon hearts, there are no negative consequenzes whatsoever?

[@square-table-gaming]

If you can stop it seems like you'll be okay but the way it's described makes it sound like an addiction that will eventually take you

[@kyte5648]

@@square-table-gaming Now imagine what happens when you keep hunting dragons as magma wyrm for dragon communion. Will you get even more cursed, more powerful, or become an even more extreme magma wyrm with mutations?

[@freudpantas1154]

The DLC needs to fix Theodorix magma. Its the only lv2 dragon incantation that cannot be casted while in mid air

[@mayazhussain]

I will never take part in dragon communion ever

[@thesavagery6696]

I wonder if the Drake knights and the Assassins of Ravenmount are connected somehow?

[@square-table-gaming]

I've looked into both and haven't found any connection. The Ravenmount assassins are, in my opinion, a rival faction to the black knives. Their focus on deathbird imagery is meant to intimidate and show off how deadly they are.

[@thesavagery6696]

@@square-table-gaming that's makes perfect sense!! Hopefully we can find more on them They're so fascinating but mysterious as well

[@deychinfo]

I like u r way to tell the story

[@square-table-gaming]

Thank you!

[@dannyhirajeta1060]

Do you think Godwyn having a fish bottom is a result of his "communing" with a dragon?

[@square-table-gaming]

No that's definitely related to deathroot

[@dannyhirajeta1060]

@@square-table-gaming ... I don't know... I don't see a lot of deathroot infected beings running around with scales. (I mean you definitely right) but I haven't seen Godwyn with any legs either

[@rustyshacklford5513]

Still missing deep dive on maliketh

[@square-table-gaming]

His topic is a biggie and a lot of people have covered it. When we dive in I want to make sure we're not just repeating other lore channels.

[@karmaotsutsuki771]

May you do a video on the games ending

[@square-table-gaming]

Which one? Or all?

[@karmaotsutsuki771]

@@square-table-gaming All of them . I believe that there are a lot of speculations and theories to be made on what each ending means for the lands between and our tarnished

[@karmaotsutsuki771]

@@square-table-gaming Not only that but also a video on the primevil current as it is a pretty mysterious entity of Elden Ring. I believe it to be some kind of outer god and takes the form of some serpentine or bug like entity. Something like the elden beast however a lot more ....lovecraftian. i was hoping that in the dlc there would be a questline where we can glimpse into and possibly fight the primevil current which gives us a brand new powerful spell. Like lusat and azure. Or even an ending where the primevil current is restored to the acadamy as Sellen wanted and to which it can take over the world as the new god instead of the greater will

[@Carrot-Man1876]

Greetings from the Carrot-Man 👋🥕

[@square-table-gaming]

My liege

[@uwo4876]

😐😑😐

[@MrAshCarr]

Sure, but I'm Elden Lord and God is my bitch now sooo

[@rathosalpha]

I killed every dragon and ate there hearts

[@mondty]

When are you playing Nier again?!

[@square-table-gaming]

Not sure! I'll check with our main streamers

[@AwwGeeZ1983]

Micki and I will be here this Saturday afternoon beating 2B's run and starting 9S! Hope to see you there!

[@mondty]

@@AwwGeeZ1983 awesome!!

[@yeetdragon9552]

womp womp

[@square-table-gaming]

?

[@shyboievris834]

Day 2 of asking for a Melina episode

[@square-table-gaming]

Likely not going to happen before the dlc. There are too many mysteries about her that cannot be resolved without more information.

[@shyboievris834]

@@square-table-gaming Understandable 😭 one day the spoopy maiden will be unveiled

[@dankdaze42069]

Ewwwwww eating hearts is gross Not worth it 😐...

[@kidmoney9393]

Hold on I’m not subscribed let me change that 👍🏾

[@square-table-gaming]

Always appreciated. Stick around for when we hit 50K. I'm cooking something up

[@iPhunnyT]

Flightless dragons, whose draconic traits a stifled due to them being a younger evolving generation of dragon. Simple?

[@square-table-gaming]

That's not actually right. They're not a younger generation of dragons, they're bastardizations of what it is to be a dragon