Elden Ring Lore - The Great Kenneth Haight

Do you know the tale of the Great Kenneth Haight? Heir to Limgrave who brokered peace with monsters and found a leader worthy of his throne?
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[@shinyhandman6464]

Kenneth Haight. One of the few NPC’s where is you give them something they ask for, they won’t be dead or dying the next time you see them

[@garcalej]

Yeah, but they’ll still be broke…

[@lukebarroso449]

I like Kenneth. I hope his castle gets restored. Nepheli Loux would have a great vassal with him around

[@Okkusen]

its just so rare that there are npcs who really want to do good in this world of "souls" games.

[@falsebeliever8079]

*without some dark result or twist

[@Okkusen]

@@falsebeliever8079 thats true 🙂

[@elissalesse8320]

aye don’t forget my man the chapel dweller, an OG of that category 🙏

[@sethleoric2598]

I love Kenneth so much, he feels like a character who came out of a different game, a random run of the mill noble type NPC in a game like Oblivion or a CRPG, and yet that sort of attitude is exactly why he's different from mostly everyone else in The Lands Between.

[@joelhemphill1968]

I just find it funny he at first was less enthusiastic about working with tarnished then demi-humans.

[@jamesnorman9160]

Says a lot about how much Tarnished are looked down upon. We're considered lower than demi-humans to most...

[@NickCombs]

I think it makes sense given how long the tarnished have been failing to heed Marika's summons, from a fundamentalist's perspective. To someone seeing the world crumble around them over many years, it must seem like it's all the tarnished's fault.

[@juble7086]

There's also a note of irony in his initial dialogue where he states the knight currently holding his castle as "plum mad" and "obsesses with blood". This is amusing as the entire quest's undertone and narrative revolves around oaths, lineage and heritage.

[@SuperSayajim]

This is actually a warning about the Knight of the castles abilities, as he uses blood magic like Mohg. It's also a hint that this knight was in league with Mohg

[@Mike-xp8zc]

I wish he had some dialoge about omens. He seems like a pretty respectful guy, so itd be interesting to know how he feels about them

[@NoSyrupLeft]

What I like about Kenneth is how you at first get a feeling that he is a pompous arrogant lord as per usual, yet he shows genuine gratitude, good faith and respect. He tries to maintain good relationships with the local demi-humans and he assists a just and good person Nepheli as the lord of Limgrave.

[@whatsnewbois9814]

Gostoc, Nephelix and (the great) Kenneth Haight were all part of a cut quest that involves you chosing who should rule Limgrave between the three, sort of like mini Covenants. Oh and part of the quest was also the fact that Gostoc was Godricks Son. Great video, you made Kenneths motivation sound more plausible and deeper than they were even without the context of the cut quest

[@square-table-gaming]

I know people theorized that there was cut content here but has it ever been discovered? I don't recall ever finding confirmation

[@ozzyfozzy4261]

Would be interesting indeed though. Sofar on me Gostoc always made the impression of a comical relief character... who will steals 30% of runes dropped...

[@whatsnewbois9814]

@@square-table-gaming check out his cut dialogue were he talks about being Godricks son and how he deserves "the crown". It could be possible that they scraped the quest early in development so that's all we have to belive in its idea

[@whatsnewbois9814]

@@ozzyfozzy4261 he's much nicer in the Road to Erdtree Manga but has to go through a lot of Godricks crap

[@Midnitethorn]

Such a pleasant surprise of a NPC. I really enjoyed Kenneth! With him and Nepheli in charge of Stormveil I have some hope for the Land Between.

[@jamesnorman9160]

Glad you refer to him by his full title. :p Also, I love the fact that while some of the characters in TLB use rather flowery and Shakesperean language and prose, then Kenneth Haight uses phrases like 'country bumpkin' and 'big girl's blouse'. But Kenneth's alliance with the local demi-humans and the fact he seems genuinely concerned over who becomes ruler of Limgrave makes him a rare decent sort in TLB.

[@MelGibsonFan]

I went all in on the Haight quest. Donned my Gelmir knight armor, sword and shield in hand. Kneeled before him… didn’t even get made a knight, however him backing Nepheli Loux was actually pretty cool.

[@rhynisiris624]

Hes the last land owning noble left in limgrave i think he would be the next in line for the throne of limgrave. Its not just how he views himself. He then recognizes he's not suitable, showing humility.

[@teddyhh9947]

Kenneth is pompous but he seems to genuinely care to be a good ruler to whoever inhabits his kingdom. I would much prefer Kenneth as a ruler over the leaders we have in todays world

[@mish8753]

kenneth haight and nepheli are two of my favorite npcs (tbh i like most the npcs in elden ring). theyre almost nostalgic just cos theyre in limgrave. i honestly think it would be so cool if you got to promote other npcs to lords of the different areas, it would be like building ur own political party.

[@claudiuskeat8336]

I never knew Kenneth Haight was communicating with Demi Humans. He's now a more respectable NPC to me than he was before.

[@redheadsilver8041]

I always interpreted Kenneth to be a "scion" of the royal line. Maybe Kenneth's specific family line began with an illegitimate child of Godwyn? I always took Godwyn to be have been promiscuous, may have caused Marika some headaches politically. Yet, Kenneth doesn't view himself as a "proper lord". Why does he disparage himself that much? Wouldn't he be equal or even above Godrick in the line of ascension? And since Godrick is dead, Kenneth is the number 1 pick remaining.

[@coraline2770]

If hes cool with demi humans that means me and Boc can live at his place im down i would join his service

[@dreggywegs]

Fantastic take, fellow Tarnished.

[@NickCombs]

The demi-humans at his fort. We know their kind will lose interest in fighting when their leader dies, but this time they went berzerk. Overcome with bloodlust from Mohg's agent. What I want to understand better is why most people in the Lands Between are decrepit but others are not. I have my theories, but I'm interested in different takes.

[@matiasluukkanen7718]

Kenneth would be amazing npc if you encountered him in Liurnia and Altus respectively, needing saving each time, like Siegmeyer in DS1. But this feels true for most NPC's, as many could truly shine if they had more active content. Perhaps Kenneth would travel to Leyndell to present your credentials to Morgott so that you can be knighted properly, being distraught over the state of the capital. "Good Tarnished, I cannot yet raise you to the glory of knighthood, on the grounds that, you, um... how to put this... slayed our monarch. I am sure it had to be done, my friend, but until suitable replacement is found, you have to sadly wait in your current predicament."

[@NickCombs]

I guess if we put 1 and 1 together, that means the demi-humans could return to the Erdtree according to fundamentalism. Otherwise they would be treated like omen or misbegotten by the like of Kenneth.

[@Varindran]

I remember on my first playthough i looked him up and saw he dropped a golden seed so i killed him. Felt bad afterwards lol.

[@ienott]

Great video! I always feel like there is a part of the quest missing with him and Nepheli. Usually there are some bredcrumbs left, but I just dont understand why would we ever visit Godricks arena after giving Nepheli the ashes. Even if its the STORMhawk and so on. I wonder if something is actually missing in there

[@dreggywegs]

Once I become Elden Lord in my play-through, I'd like to imagine that I appoint Kenneth as the provincial Lord of Limgrave, and Boc will be be elevated as the Lord of the Mistwood, and Lord of the Demi-Humans.

[@TheHieropant]

When he says that even the vulgar shall not be left behind. Im sure he does not consider demi humans as vulgar. But is referring to the vulgar (militia) people.

[@ZOD-VR]

kenneth haight the only true elden lord, best jobro, biggest chad in the game and best waifu

[@ozzyfozzy4261]

Why is Kenneth wearing CONSORT'S TROUSERS? Just like the proprietress of Volcano Manor...?

[@square-table-gaming]

He got drip

[@falsebeliever8079]

Probably because they are stylish and comfy. I belive they are fashion among the upper crust in The Lands Between.

[@jasN86]

I wanna be a Haight Knight!

[@hellspawn8795]

My headcanon is that Kenneth’s family was given limgrave after the dregs of the golden lineage tried to take over leyndell.

[@KurwaRomek]

All hail the repudiator of the false

[@argonaut_jay]

Id happily be Kenneth's own private Paladin. My man seems like a great leader.

[@mateuszsotys3912]

I actually have a character I play as his knight that helps fight Godrick in Limgrave, he's one of my favorite characters in ER

[@argonaut_jay]

@@mateuszsotys3912 yeah I wish we had more interaction with him than we do currently.

[@FaeQueenCory]

Being the proper lord of Limgrave would imply that Kenneth and Godrick are related and that Kenneth is part of the Golden Lineage. Funny how his dialogue implies he's not.

[@procye]

While I don't doubt that Godrick is only picking fights that he can win, I don't think that's why he went after Fort Haight. When he is slain, his last words are 'Soon we shall return, to our home, bathed in rays of gold.' I think it's more likely that he was after the medallion piece at Fort Haight, with the aim of ascending to the Altus Plateau, and Leyndell.

[@square-table-gaming]

That's very interesting. I always thought he was being poetic about returning to the Erdtree but that's a great interpretation

[@darklordauron]

I thought Kenneth was Godrick's fraternal twin brother. That they are literally part of "a litter" of three or more kids.

[@square-table-gaming]

Not that I'm aware of. At least nothing in-game states this.

[@darklordauron]

@@square-table-gaming I was basing it on the language Kenneth uses and the visual elements. Kenneth uses distancing dialog and self-reference in such a way as to imply that he is trying to be detached from the subject.

[@RichardMcCrory_Neph]

Thanks for your content. I wonder if any of these NPC interactions will change significantly with the DLC... Your Envoys & Oracles Mug has served me well since I purchased it!

[@square-table-gaming]

Thank you! I don't think anything will change with the dlc. We're only going to see new content inside of the new location.

[@real_surreal_sir]

Kenneth always seemed consistently implied to me to be a local minor noble, with the house of haight or whatever probably lords of mistwood or something in better times. The simplest explanation is whoever previously ruled limgrave all git wiped out when Godrick invadedafter being run out of llendeyll; and if so, then and the next highest local nobles peobably wouldve been Kenneth and his lineage, whether or not that lineage is specifically descended of Godfrey or not.

[@square-table-gaming]

If his were true why would he seek out Nepheli Loux instead of retaking his families land?

[@real_surreal_sir]

@@square-table-gaming he does both though, by installing nepheli as regent, temporarily helping command a higher noble before planning to return to his reclaimed fort IS him doing both. If hes putting things BACK to normal (i.e. him leading a noble house in fealty to a "higher" noble lineage in charge of limgrave as a whole), then he's acting exactly as any prideful elite who just wants things to go back to normal and get his land back in the way he used would do. He's specifically and openly arranging both things, UNLESS you assume some secret or foiled ambition and direct lineage comparison OR that he's exaggerating his claims of nobility.

[@erikreber3695]

I also thinking Kenneth is part of the golden lineage. Thats what i got out of it. Perhaps a bastard of a bastard...

[@frankiefromky]

My question about Kenneth H. is that if he is not tarnished, yet is human... then does that mean he still sees the guidance of grace? And if so, then maybe that's what led him to seek Nepheli out to be the next ruler of Limgrave... idk, just a thought.

[@mish8753]

subbed, i can see myself binging these. also where'd you get that character art? did you draw it?

[@square-table-gaming]

Our artist Pat Gee does all of our Elden Lore thumbnails

[@ctyoro5086]

17 min on Kenneth? Impressive

[@TechNinjaSigma]

KENNETH HAIGHT IS THE HOMIE!!!

[@mish8753]

limgrave and weeping are the most human sort of political places. theyre a lot more realistic in comparison to our world which has merit, theyre cool

[@graynomad7173]

Loved him he was one of my favorite characters

[@dalmatia1]

I slayed him after he backed out of his promise to knight me

[@square-table-gaming]

That's a bummer man, he's just trying to get by. Gotta lift up Nepheli.

[@dalmatia1]

@@square-table-gaming i know. I thought it was the end of his quest. This is my first play through of Elden Ring (never played any of these Souls games before). Obsessed right now

[@ricklubbers1526]

A free golden seed is a free golden seed.

[@Shad0wmoses]

in today's modern world, many would be put off by his pompous attitude. the difference is it seems he actually wants to do good in the world or at least restore it to a state that isnt just godrick going out hunting people. i wonder if "great" was self appointed or he was given that lol.

[@enfrax]

I love Kenneth! What a great npc and what an even greater Video! Thank you!

[@square-table-gaming]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@christinebaker8754]

0:26 just notice Godrick has five scaled fingers as well as a thumb. 😮 Also, with Fort Haight being a ruined tip, where are the living quarters … ?

[@Mistercodmobilefan8378]

Its crazy tho like the fact that Kenneth Haight knows that godrick can't beat malenia and hid from radahn during the war of the shattering, was kenneth part of the battle or did he stayed back and watched the war happening?

[@square-table-gaming]

He had his own fort so he likely stood back and watched

[@flamingmanure]

this dude is one of the many reasons why elden rings writing is much better than bb and ds, finally an npc that actually wants good for his ppl and successfully implements it if you follow his quest, what i love about elden ring npcs the most is that most of them arent just *tragic mad/sad character trope#29* like most ds and especially bb npcs, which are easily the worst in the series. npcs here have life and motive beyond just the games main story, vostock and marikas tits to name a few, bb and ds dont have this.

[@elissalesse8320]

oh come on you don’t remember the OG pure heart, my man chapel dweller??

[@rick-the-rat7335]

Mann this is great video! Watching these videos as I'm playing elden ring lmao. Have you done a lore video about the exiles from stormveil castle? They are my favorite enemies so far lol

[@square-table-gaming]

The banished knights? Yup! Although I could probably make an updated video about them because the first one is definitely wrong on some points

[@spencerschaub970]

I've always hated kenneth until now. I always found his tone pompous and felt like he was just using the demi-humans. Now though, now I respect his character a little more. Always did like his line of calling godrick a bumpkin though XD.

[@Infinite_Speck_Of_Dust]

The GrRrReat Kenneth Haight!

[@gonzoevolved2552]

I like it when he says “Elden Lore” 😂

[@AegisKHAOS]

Kenneth Haight is awesome. One of the NPCs in the game I liked. Wouldn't mind entering his service.

[@Infinite_Speck_Of_Dust]

I'm typing this before watching the video, but I'm wondering if you're going to mention what he drops if you kill him. It's a golden seed, instead of a bell bearing. Which is weird. I'm not sure what's totally implied with that but it might explain why Kenneth Haight isn't all corpse'd out. Either his loyalty to the golden order totally replaced his bell bearing (which I guess has something to do with one's spirit) ... OR... OR....he's...a minor erdtree? Hm.

[@square-table-gaming]

He wouldn't have a bell bearing since he's not a merchant. I think the weapon he gives us is a better indicator of his whole deal

[@ozzyfozzy4261]

He stole it...

[@square-table-gaming]

@@ozzyfozzy4261 there's no evidence of that in-game

[@ozzyfozzy4261]

@@square-table-gaming Well... that would make him a bad thief!

[@erikreber3695]

I think the greatest mystery in the lands between os why does Godrick have a picture of Godfrey post Tarnished. I think its just a continuity error but is fromsoft knoen for those? I know he idolized him. But he was banished to lands unknown to war and die there. THATS when he broke his axe. So why does the picture have him with a broken axe? It should be the full double axe, no?

[@square-table-gaming]

I think it's fair to assume he's broken his axe more than once but you make a good point

[@Based_investor]

I feel like the state of his fort made him feel unworthy.

[@xanderroberson2029]

Is rellanna really just a simp that followed messmer to the land of shadow? I wanna know more but i wanna hear it in ur voice

[@square-table-gaming]

I'm planning on covering her in the near future. Unfortunately there's no confirmation on whether she and Messmer were actually together or not, but we'll speculate wildly!

[@DecartesGreatStar]

npcs you find annoying but can't slaughter because of ancient dragon smithing stone

[@apyorick]

One smithing stone I never acquired, I guess.

[@agxryt]

He's only really annoying at first. I honestly love his humbling questline

[@Tortuga2223a]

Yeah maybe at the start but he even has enough self awareness to realize he's really NOT that guy and seeks a better more qualified lord of Limgrave ​@@agxryt

[@F3nres]

Yeah I liked him for some reason

[@ricklubbers1526]

You dont need him for the stone though. Nepheli and Gostoc will still be in the throne room.

[@robotgorilla-man6193]

The Giga Chaddeth Haight rules. Man is goated

[@Quader417]

Is it possible for Kenneth himself to be a tarnished? Like obviously he’s a little weary of tarnished but possibly he doesn’t realize he’s tarnished? Or think he’s like a token tarnished or something? Just seems odd that he’s essentially the only noble that isn’t mummified

[@square-table-gaming]

He would know if he was tarnished because he'd no longer be able to see grace

[@poipoi4711]

Love your vids

[@square-table-gaming]

Thank you!

[@jackalkhan5676]

Did anyone else think Kenneth was like Mace Tyrell?

[@chables74]

So what do y’all think of Kenneth as Boc’s dad? Boc is dressed as an aristocrat and seems to have education in courtly manners; there’s the dead demi human queen in the fort, and the demi human colony in the beach cave is missing its queen. I think the chiefs took the clan into hiding there after the fort was taken, and drove Boc away seeing him as a crossbreed freak now that the queen and Ken weren’t around to stand up for him.

[@square-table-gaming]

The one hitch is that it's thought the demi human holding the you're beautiful prattling plate is Bocs mom

[@chables74]

@@square-table-gaming I can’t disagree that that is an obvious connection, I just have a hard time thinking that’s her because of Boc and his clan being in Limgrave and the prattling pate demihuman being on Gelmir. That equation doesn’t math for me.

[@chables74]

There’s also the ghost outside Fort Haight that talks about the demi humans sorrow for their mother.

[@Bigboy_smooth]

The great Kenneth Haight! Servant of the true order and celebrated repudiator of the false!

[@ViroVV]

So great you can easily miss him entirely....

[@square-table-gaming]

Only if you're not exploring, boys got some lungs on him

[@ViroVV]

@@square-table-gaming Yeah, so Ive been told last time I said he was completely miss able. Does not compute with my pegged 999h59m59s playtime on a New game run though. Still trying to figure that out.

[@AwwGeeZ1983]

​@@ViroVV It's funny, because every time I start a new game, I forget where he is and only find him because I'm on my way to South Limgrave and I hear him hollering his head off.

[@Dressyone223]

Kenneth is such a bro

[@momzilla2010]

i like him

[@robertsoto5713]

So what are non tarnished? Regular people or what?

[@square-table-gaming]

Yeah basically

[@robertsoto5713]

@@square-table-gaming I would think they are Demi gods too by the way they talk.

[@quinnzykir]

The great Chad. Love that guy

[@shipitko]

[@DiScoStuR9]

I would die for this man