Elden Ring Lore - The Tibia Mariners: Ferrymen of the Dead

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Who are the Mariners that call the dead to their side? Learn more about the origins of the Tibia Mariner's and their power to call upon those who live in death.
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[@AegisKHAOS]

Ever since watching Carbot's episode on the tibia mariner, now I feel like I'm interrupting a picnic every time I find one of them.

[@screech5212]

You basically are, they just want to chill

[@TiberiusRex182]

The candlewood light is probably that red grace-like energy we see on the way to the lift to the consecrated snowfields

[@Siculidee]

I think it’s simple. Once upon a time, deceased corpses were the domain of Rhosus and Mariners, while spirits/ghost were the domain of Death rite and death birds. Godwyn died but didn’t die true, which maybe gave him access to both the dead realm and the spirit realm. His soulless body being alive infesting the Erdtree probably has access to death in every realm. Death rite birds live again and raises spirits, Mariner live again and raises skeletons, Godwyn raises them all. He’s like…the zombie god. Just my head cannon

[@CrunchyFluids]

I like to believe that the reddish wisps of trailing light you see in the Mountaintop of the Giants is a part of the light of the Helphin, seeing as how there are so many who live in death there.

[@BrainOfStone]

Imagine one of the dead giants just waking up to crush you

[@CrunchyFluids]

@@BrainOfStone Last thought before the big smush, "What a typical Elden Ring moment. "

[@NickCombs]

Neat, I hadn't noticed the red light of this guy. He dies so fast that he barely gets the chance to use it. But did you also notice the violet hue of the rest of his magic? That's gotta be the color that the grave violet mentions, which means the mariner is rowing on a river of ghostflame. Brrr chilly!

[@LtCdrXander]

I love the design and concept of the Tibia Mariners both visually and in the fight itself, so super excited to watch this! I don't mind how easy their fights are, but it would also be cool if there was some big Tibia Mariner superboss or something

[@Grimsly3736]

“Tibia, the Leader Ferryman”

[@captainxit5573]

Yeah! Like Those Great Big Skeletons That Get Summoned At The Mountaintops Of The Giants! Damn...Still Can't Find That Last Summoner That Guards The Bridge That The Painter Pops Up At.😂

[@MorningGloryDancer]

Oh, I agree! A Tibia Mariner boss fight would be epic.

[@dumbanddarby]

I have a theory between the relationship of the Mariners and the Deathbirds. Since both are hinted/confirmed to have existed before the rune of death. The Mariners could guide Those Who Live In Death to the grounds that Deathbirds burn the bones of the dead with ghostflame. After that, the Mariners would then guide their spirits through the Helphen using that red light.

[@Grimsly3736]

So would Tibia themself be a acolyte of the Deathbird god?

[@dumbanddarby]

By that logic, the Deathbirds could also be acolytes, though more connected to their god. Since both in some way (long ago) aid the dead in their passing. Maybe this is what the unnamed god of death wanted. Before the rune of death complicated things.

[@Grimsly3736]

@@dumbanddarby I wonder what happened to the deathbird god, cause like they just vanished and another death god stepped in (being my glorious Gloam-Eyed Queen) but her concept of death which is Destined Death is different than this viking afterlife ghost flame grants

[@Nemo12417]

The Twin Bird was an envoy of an Outer God. The Gloam Eyed Queen, by contrast, was an Empyrean who, at best, became a god akin to Marika.

[@egoborder3203]

it just occurred to me that the heralds also use golden horns for their abilities, I wonder if there's some connection?

[@Grimsly3736]

Also another point to add the sacrificial axe from what whats probably intended to be the first death bird you fight is green which implies oxidation so them being Greece inspired feels more implied as Fromsoft probably did Place that there to be are first drop from them for a reason

[@NickCombs]

I don't think the shadow tree is the Helphen. It's written to have a steeple. Pretty strange description for a tree. So it is probably some sort of church, tower, or cathedral. What springs to mind is the opening scene where dead tarnished are being anointed with incense to be called back to the lands between. That could very well be inside the Helphen building.

[@iHaveTheDocuments]

I never realized the boat attack knocks its own skeletons back

[@screech5212]

1:07 lmao what motivation they just want to have a sick boatride

[@square-table-gaming]

Hey that's been enough motivation for 40 year old white men to do some crazy shit

[@KaiserMazoku]

love the funny doot skeletons

[@lurksmcgee]

I think it could also be easily explained that if the Tibia Mariner existed prior to the Deathroot corrupting it - it could be just that - corruption. Not necessarily that they existed with those same exact powers before. Somehow the Albinaurics in Moghwyn's Palaca can also summon like the Tibia Mariner

[@Nemo12417]

The Rune of Death is dark red. Ghostflame is pale blue. Mix them and you get purple, like the mariners or Grave Violets. In fact, in an earlier version of the game, Maliketh's sword glowed purple. In Hawkshaw's color theory of Elden Ring, purple signifies otherworldly things.

[@darklordauron]

I figured tibia referred to the pipe because it looks to be a combination of a flared tibia organ pipe like those used in some Eastern European churches in lieu of the usual church bells and a steppe horn, both used as a call to worship or gather.

[@figo3554]

I only now realized the implication of boats and river styx

[@KosOrSomeSayKosmo]

The mariners and the spectral waters they ride have a light purple color that is similar to the color of the sleep effects of St. Trina. Sleep and death seem to be associated, especially considering we fight the Lichdragon Fortissax in the Deathbed Dream, and Godwyn and Miquella (aka St. Trina) are so closely associated.

[@Mistercodmobilefan8378]

Thats wild i never notice that the tibia mariner are just like the ferryman from the greek stories during all my time playing in elden ring!!! I hope the dlc can explain more of what is the deathroot!!!

[@Shmaider]

Has anyone else recognized the similarities between the Rime of the Ancient Mariner by Samuel Taylor Coleridge and those who live in death in Elden Ring. For one a Mariner is telling the story in Rime of the Ancient Mariner, and in the story he is chosen by She Who Lives in Death to live and wander the earth as his penance for killing an Albatross. Not to mention the crew does come back to life. Just something I realized

[@lexmortis5722]

Presumably deathroot is just one way to create those who live in death. The deathbirds had the job of burning the bodies of the dead with ghostflame to syphon the souls from their bodies. Depending on the process, being denied this relief of the soul could have created those who live in death in the past, turning their souls into wraiths and their bodies into skeletons.

[@maiafay]

Why would Godwyn be their leader? He’s just as afflicted as they are. I think the Gloam eyed Queen is the one they are waiting for as her rune has been stolen for quite a while now. The Mariners also have her signature dusky hued glow. Same with Melina’s eye. With Destined Death halfway returned, perhaps she has some agency still left in the lands between. Or is waiting for a vessel for her power. Could be Godwyn in that aspect, but he’s a little useless in that form. He’d have to be reborn somehow. But the fact the mariners seem to predate the golden order and so does the gloam eyed queen make me think they are connected. Her whole purpose is death. The golden order has many factions under them. There’s no reason why the gloam eyed queen’s order wouldn’t have similar. Those who live in death, godskins, etc.

[@jh9794]

I mean our tarnished have definitely died in battle even before the game began. So us seeing the helphin isn't entirely out of the question.

[@XNaturalPhenomenonX]

The pole behind the chair has a similar shape to that tattoo skin and messmers lance.

[@jamesnorman9160]

Compared to the other enemies related to Those Who Live in Death, the Mariners certainly have a very striking and memorable visual design: of course they resemble Charon the Ferryman, but they are literal ghost dudes chilling in their ghostly boats on dry land. And the 'leadership' that's referred to could ultimately refer either Godwyn or whichever Elden Lord deigns to use the Mending Rune of Death to allow Those Who Live in Death a place in the new order rather than being something to be chased out and exterminated, but in the meantime the Mariners can act as some kind of leadership, bringing all these despondent beings together under a single banner rather than wandering aimlessly.

[@MorningGloryDancer]

Thank you for looking into this for me, STG. Your deep dive is so much better than I’d hoped for! I love the extra info on the Greek horn; how fascinating! Now, I can appreciate the mariners even more than before. 😊

[@square-table-gaming]

Happy to oblige! We have a few different topics commenters have asked for and this was a lot of fun to explore.

[@MorningGloryDancer]

@@square-table-gaming I may have missed it; but, have you done a video on the Regal Ancestor Spirit yet? I don’t see one on your page. That is my favorite boss. It’s so beautiful and graceful-such an elegant encounter! Yet still so powerful and disturbing. 🦌 ☺️

[@square-table-gaming]

@@MorningGloryDancer we have a video in the works for the ancestors in general and that boss is going to be included!

[@MorningGloryDancer]

@@square-table-gaming Awesome!! Looking forward to it! 👏

[@whiteincolour]

So happy to found this channel. There's sth seems fascinating when diving into lore of these enemies. Understanding these small details makes me appreciate the game even more.

[@redfortuneAgo]

Babe wake up, new Elden Lore just dropped!!! 🙌🙌

[@js500y9]

Eeey, I don’t know if you made this cause of my suggestion or if it’s just a coincidence but I’m glad you made this one!

[@square-table-gaming]

We pay attention! A few people requested this topic and we saw!

[@BrassMaster117]

IM ON A BOAT IM ON A BOAT

[@adamsirin7249]

The Mariners rowing horn seems to be the same hue as the envoy's horn..... coincidence.......??

[@Carrot-Man1876]

Greetings from the Carrot-Man 👋🥕

[@square-table-gaming]

My liege

[@dirtman6000]

Hello the Carrot-Man. I am the dirt man.

[@patches2221]

You guys should have babies ​@@dirtman6000

[@momzilla2010]

great video on them. makes me want to play again with all this in mind

[@blakerogers9600]

Is there a video on the Nox? Theres so many videos and maybe i missed it. Also another cool idea are lore videos of each legacy dungeon/ regions and the lore surrounding the landmarks I think would be a good idea for lore videos.

[@Leonhearth0]

The guy is just chilling on his boat, enjoying his best life in death, then we get there and kill his vibe. Not cool, man. Not cool.

[@theonewhoknocks6950]

We need a lore video on the trolls

[@captainxit5573]

WOW! I Have To Agree. I Have Been Puzzlin' Over That Sword For A Long Time Now. More So Than The God-Slayer Sword, That Was Once Wielded By The Gloam-Eyed Queen. That Lamplight Is What Really Got Me. Once I Attained The Sword & Read The Description, The 1st Thing That Came To Mind Was "Over The Garden Wall". The Lampwood In That Tale Is Gathered At Night. It Is Special In That, It Keeps A Certain Flame (Light) From Going Out. I Highly Recommend If You & Many In The Community Have Not Seen It. That Lampwood Is Burned To Keep That Sort Of Flame Alight! Happy Hunting.🥰

[@justinroux1610]

Your voice is so soothing like i can and have fallen asleep to them

[@elwynn9931]

God I hope we get their horn as a weapon in the dlc

[@jackalkhan5676]

I just realized the tibia Mariners are wearing doilies...

[@daltonmiller3869]

candle light and steeple have same white fire light.

[@superbaddctv]

I definitely need to become a member I was waiting for 3 days to drop

[@iamthereddemon20]

Every chance its both forms of tibia, Miyazaki has said before hes a big name nerd certainly wouldn't put a double meaning like that past him

[@ChanchoWins]

hello! great video! I always thought that is a little odd how they sit in a Lord like chair that holds a lamp that looks very similar to the statues of crucified Marica.

[@LibrarianOfLeng]

I wish you could get there Horn as a weapon

[@alsafyche]

he's got such a pretty shawl and dress on. i want his fit

[@davidfrancisco3502]

Why the bronze horns the tibia mariners use as an oar, a melee weapon and summon skeletons isn't a weapon for us the players?

[@Shadowcthuhlu]

I don't think the misbegotten have gotten thier own video yet

[@square-table-gaming]

One of our earliest videos dealt with hewg and the misbegotten, but there may be more to explore there.

[@Shadowcthuhlu]

@@square-table-gaming I think so, especially from the comments on that video and I think somebody else mentioning the file names for some of them being children f Radagon.

[@FL-Kman]

Looking for a lore vid on trolls, why are they pulling carriages, iji, carian trolls, madness trolls.. lots of stuff to cover

[@Dead_undead]

YESSSSS I REQUESTED THIS!!!!!

[@bishoprenegade5540]

cool sucks i cant partake in the giveaway since im in canada but best of luck to everyone else

[@enxman7697]

Another interesting video!

[@topdeckhelix8450]

I am also here

[@ErnestoCifer]

It's the first time I'm in this early

[@benjaminRitchey-e4q]

B O A T

[@kawaiizombiegal]

elden ring's great for us lore addicts