Elden Ring Mechanics You Didn't Know Were Possible, Part 2

[@ooloh]

Consort and Messmer stuff again, I know, but they're really just the gift that keeps giving lol. Lot of new stuff recently. As always if you want to show me anything or just hang out find me here - discord.gg/gtBk3vvJaA

[@Uncle_Mike001]

Is it even possible to make my dad show up at the doorstep with the milk he went for years ago?

[@ooloh]

It's over

[@Sekiro_lover]

​​@@ooloh😢

[@Uncle_Mike001]

Dayum 😢

[@ghoulbuster1]

Sorry bro. He died in the trenches.

[@Poneglyph]

No, bro. He crouch-strafed you that night.

[@malikhittam1440]

God, I love Messmer's fight so much. He just keeps getting better the more I fight him

[@wagadoogado487]

You're quickly becoming one of the best elden ring channels, keep it up man

[@Skarnercrystaline]

You are the definition of “losing? Just be better.” Love this shit

[@andreimaxwell4455]

Losing? just have access to the invisible hit box data what are you a casual?

[@paracame8162]

​@@andreimaxwell4455 PCless moment

[@guillermosolacorral597]

Great video. Combining dodging, jumping, deflecting, and apparently also crouching (seriously, wtf) can make a lot of fights incredibly stylish. I think people is sleeping on rhe potential of this game's combat system.

[@theaveragenormie7151]

That's because it's easier to spam L2.

[@normalguycap]

Lol "potential" souls fans coping to make it sound like this game is more complex that it is. Play Nioh or a Devil May Cry before you talk about combat depth in souls games.

[@evilfungas]

@@normalguycap Are you really go to reply to every comment in under this video telling people to play Nioh or DMC? Keep seething.

[@normalguycap]

@@evilfungas lol keep liking your own comment. I reply to the ones I want to or the ones that reply to me that aren't your proven dumbass. That's called basic conversation. It's not like this is taking energy. I'm on the toilet most of the time.

[@normalguycap]

@@evilfungas LOL WAIT how about this! Are you going to PURSUE ME to every comment I write because you're so triggered AHHHHAHAAAA

[@Arfadoz]

You could probably make a 20-minute video with just cool ways of dodging Rellana's attacks. The skill expression of these bosses are excellent.

[@frazfrazfrazfraz]

That's why I'm so disappointed with Radahn, personally. It feels like a betrayal of the rest of the game's depth in hitbox and tracking by giving such absurdly large hitboxes.

[@GeniXAshina]

very informative mr ooloh you truly are an insight of unknown knowledge

[@ooloh]

A light in the darkness

[@HeyTarnished]

Wow and I thought I had found many openings, but turns out there are MORE, this video is art, I’m really impressed with this game lol. Also I noticed that Mario World “Game Over” music. 😭

[@wheatleythebrick2276]

these are always so cool to see, I was actually surprised that I found some of the midra and romina dodges on my own. The messmer ones look clean af too

[@_iRBiS]

Glad you did a Part 2, it's a great mechanic to be more complete during boss fights ♡

[@ulysses5340]

Incredible stuff. If only the game actually incentivized where to jump or not like Sekiro in some way. Also being able to both jump and crouch to avoid Midra's combo is crazy. Because visually he is spinning the sword in the same height. Where is that sword's hitbox lmao

[@ooloh]

You can actually only jump the first 2 swings before needing to crouch the rest, although I think you can also crouch those first 2 as well. But the last 3 quick spins aren't jumpable

[@Sekiro_lover]

They dont have what to jump signals in er because the jumps are very inconsistent on a lot of "jumpable" boss attacks so if they did it, it would just feel misleading unlike sekiro

[@normalguycap]

Yeah the game is horribly inconsistent on what's jumpable and what's not. You can't jump a falling star beast gravity rock summon but you can jump radans gravity wave even though the wave washes your whole model and the beast rock summon doesn't even touch you.

[@dsuable_]

​@@normalguycapif you couldn't jump rock summon, that's 100% skill issue.

[@normalguycap]

@@dsuable_ LOOOOOL never fails to have a fan come and justify blatantly bad game design and conveyance. The real issue is the inconsistency. It makes ZERO sense that you can jump THROUGH a gravity wave that covers your character. Get fff loser that's where you lose.

[@unuseableb]

Exactly from playing the dlc I also figured some similar strats, of basically either running past or around certain attacks. So far I found a run-past for Commander Niall's charge, a run around misdirect + jump for his airborne lightning kick and a run-past strat for Rellana's fast glintblade follow up lunge. Im not very precise at executing these sort of run arounds just yet, but looking at players like you it appears theres reason to keep training and boundaries to push way further than perhaps previously thought possible.

[@mosquito6334]

I played souls games for over thousands of hours and i have no idea you can do any of this. Subbed, Great teaching on the mechanic and things you can do. now i feel like a trash.

[@ooloh]

Don't feel trash LOL If you can pull some of these difficult ones off, you're already way ahead of most players

[@Patrick_Gameman]

Video that should be showed to those who say Elden ring's hitboxes are bad

[@robadams1645]

I don't know why I watch these videos. Other than panic rolling I've never dodged anything in Elden Ring. I just wear all the armour and heal a lot 😂 You guys play a completely different game than I do.

[@akaniwa]

I love the vibe of your videos, keep doing what youre doing :D

[@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz]

mesmer's ankles were never the same

[@GiorgiT11]

You can jump over Romina`s purification too, 3 hit combo can be dodged with jump

[@KazmirRunik]

2:47 I found this on my own on complete accident because my first DLC run was using an in-your-face hyper tank build

[@normalguycap]

That's how most people figure this stuff out and it's not a good method. The game does a very poor job communicating. And still you're almost always better served with the universal roll.

[@KazmirRunik]

@@normalguycap Oh, the tank is just what I used for a first playthrough so I could see what the game has to offer without immediately dying every time the game blindsided me. I made sure to keep it at medium roll max, too. My second build was a lightweight focused on offensive incantations & cipher pata. My third build was a pure-skill melee-only light roller with hookclaws & weapon grease types, quickstep replaced with cragblade, as a universal-roll build made to shred or be shredded quickly. The build variety gives you difficulty options!

[@evilfungas]

@@normalguycap Jumping attacks give you midcombo openings that you don't get while rolling. Imagine the game not telling you something but instead rewarding you for taking risks and experimenting on your own rather than giving you button prompts which tell you the most optimal thing to do at any given moment.

[@normalguycap]

@@KazmirRunik cool then

[@normalguycap]

@@evilfungas Yes, but it doesn't shave a lot of time or really speed things ups in any meaningful way. And out of the two jump attacks only the r2 really has any worth because of the additional stagger damage. Lol I can imagine quite a lot and ER does indeed do a lot of not telling you important things. You're moving the goal posts and making a mountain out of a molehill. ER is not complex, saying a jump attack opens up so much is delusion. Play Nioh or Devil May Cry or something and gain some perspective.

[@OnionKnightoc]

3:03 I’m glad someone found that you can just jump over so many of rominas attacks. I saw it since day one and haven’t seen anyone use them in their runs.

[@若干年]

Bro dodges it like an airbander

[@abreu7756]

i think the biggest issue i have with ER is knowing when those jumps/crouches are viable, thx for the video man

[@IVIaximum]

Keep it up man, this is gold❤

[@hardboiledbug]

great video dude! consort no roll soon shirley :clueless:

[@van_tigranyan]

ahaha, bro is just dancing with Messmer :D

[@thebluehood35]

Found the trick at 1:04 when I was testing Inner Consort Radahn so I decided to make sure this trick can still be applicable.

[@nierism_]

you can also dodge consorts second phase rocksling/meteor clone combo at close range by chaining i frames from miriams vanishing and a backstep into a roll but the timing is super precise

[@netheritecake]

peak v2.0 just dropped

[@LuckyLiarK]

Mesmer got stun mid combo on air. 😂

[@zawarudo6628]

I love deflecting the radahn clones using a greatshield I feel like a fucking tank like that

[@abdalla8558]

I love these Keep them coming ❤

[@nerfer200]

Before this video I figured you could crouch under Midra's ballet spin attack, but i never everything else!

[@xsubzerox3412]

U can avoid consorts launcher grab attack. Roll the launcher move, then sprint to his right sticking tightly around him junp last second to avoid down slam, enabling you to get a jump heavy attack with heavy weapons, no risk of fast follow ups like cross slash hitting u. It doesn't work well with light weapons because of their lack of range and tracking, so it misses

[@Fluxious-of7uf]

I swear if i see quopp strafing messmer's spear barrage and radahn's clones😭🙏

[@TheMightyGiantDad]

I think Romina is a wonderful boss! They did a great job of making her hitboxes feel reasonable instead of just huge and clunky across her whole body. Fight could've easily sucked a ton but it doesn't

[@dsuable_]

You must have fought her just a few times.

[@tomcaniff6437]

ah, as I thought the reason I struggled with dlc fights is because I simply didn't know any tricks.

[@leahthegeek9677]

Playing around with collisions to show who the boss is

[@DamianSamson-t8r]

I think Romina’s tactic was intentional putt it in 0,25 and looked legit to me I think it’s because the centipede feet on the ground don’t have a hitbox

[@Steyelz]

Instrumental name plz it takes me back

[@dsuable_]

You can strafe A LOT of attacks, but most of them are too stressful to think in a fight and/or hard. Some requires specific positioning. So this will not always work... for a new player. You could easily get used to this if you have over like 1500-2000 hours in the game. Being a quick learner and being able to control character fast helps too.

[@todd3143]

elden ring scientists rise again

[@Mr.Starlight_gaming]

3:32 pvp players in chambles rn

[@ethanwashington6789]

Pretty sure the aow has a seperate hitbox on the players entire lower body, so this same dodge wouldnt be possible in pvp

[@lazasian1629]

Sword of latency

[@PlasmaBirdz]

Are these dodges possible medium load?

[@ooloh]

The Consort clone rolls with the jump, no. Everything else is possible medium load though

[@PlasmaBirdz]

@ thank you :) can’t wait to practice these moves out

[@odkjqedlkd]

This game should have commited to you having to use crouching and jumping tk avoid attacks i think , and indicate in some way that its a crouch attack or jump attack like sekiro did , would made combat flow much better

[@RadishHead7]

You play mouse and keyboard?

[@ooloh]

Nope, controller

[@Sekiro_lover]

2:47 bru what this would have been useful for no hit dlc lol

[@AndrewBenningfield-ji3iw]

Fascinating.

[@Boc_theSeamster]

Still haven't found a way to dodge through Metyr's undodgeable laser move without an ash of war yet?

[@ooloh]

There is no way to dodge through it without an item, it's impossible. If you wanted to dodge it without using Raptor's or VotI you need to outspace it, worst attack in the game easily

[@Boc_theSeamster]

@@ooloh I've just accepted that you can't dodge it and it's designed to not be dodged. I mean like someone else said, if there's any attack in the game that has the excuse of being undodgeable, it's a f*cking quasar jet from a black hole. Also I found that the best way to minimize the damage you take from it is to just stay in the middle AOE and get hit twice from it. It doesn't do too much damage.

[@normalguycap]

It's terrible design. I wonder what they were thinking.

[@rafsandomierz5313]

Simple back off and use ranged attack or weapons. It's like Placidusax's laser breath it's just has limited range.

[@guillermosolacorral597]

@@Boc_theSeamster I feel like Elden Ring puts a lot more emphasis on using certain items and skills to deal with different situations. Do you think Miriam's Vanishing could work here? Since.it's tied to the same quest/npc...

[@spencercollier1426]

this has to be fps related because every single one of these would hit me. im on xbox

[@bachhoangson]

you play with mouse and keyboard, right ? No way using gamepad can rotate the camera that quick

[@ooloh]

Max sens controller can do some wonderful things

[@bachhoangson]

@@ooloh do u mean max sensitivity ?

[@ooloh]

@@bachhoangson Yes, I play on 10 look sensitivity

[@abreu7756]

great intel

[@Sekiro_lover]

Is streaming just over now ? 😭

[@hongngn]

ahh, I’ve failed……

[@ooloh]

LOL, and thank you !

[@hongngn]

Seeing you dog walk Messmer like this heals my emotional damage. Thank you🙏 Keep up the good work💪

[@frazfrazfrazfraz]

Great stuff to show off, but this isn't really "new mechanics". It's just hitboxes and tracking Also, Romina is hated? She's one of the easiest bosses in the dlc. I thought she would be seen as forgettable and boring if anything. Not my opinion, i like that fight even if she's a little too easy, but i thought people would steamroll her

[@Sekiro_lover]

Channel remake

[@coloradostatesenatorsteven7443]

nope just gonna summon shield bros for tanking and aggro then spam l2 bb. too old to learn mechanics 😂

[@AnsonRhys]

Nice video but I think that a lot of this displays what I think is wrong with some aspects of the DLC which is that there are so many different attacks that don’t work the way that they LOOK like they’re supposed to work which breaks immersion and makes it very weird and unintuitive to have to dodge even if you’ve figured it out except half the time there’s nothing that gives you a clue as to how to figure it out unless you’re familiar with the game’s code or just stumble upon the method by accident.

[@netheritecake]

bro i almost had a stroke trying to read that entire "sentence" (whole ass paragraph with NO commas or full stops) in one breath

[@hare75]

I lost my breath reading this shit

[@Sinhsseax]

The thing is that you can't really say what is objectively intuitive. Different people can intuit different things and be right or wrong about it. There's definitely particular timings or some such that trip people up more than others, but it will still click for one person really well. I had an easy time with finding jump attack dodges throughout all the base game and the DLC. Many things just looked very low to the ground to me so I tried jumping them. I didn't even know how jumping truly worked until Zullies video, I just knew to try. (Even then, I didn't understand fully.) But many others didn't even attempt jumping at all. At a certain point it becomes experimentation, yes. But is that bad once again, if it leads to a boss having more longevity for those determined to find everything? Besides, a lot of the things in this video are no roll runner level tech. You can get through even something as complicated as Radahns clone slam just fine without it.

[@normalguycap]

Love the people bragging on how they can't read something basic. Just read slower you troglodytes. Sorry some things are more than a 3rd grade reading level. Stick to memes and tweets I guess if this "book" was too much for you.

[@normalguycap]

@@Sinhsseax No it's definitely bad and objectively intuitive is definitely a thing. That's exactly why in the pretext of difficulty ER had to input read and animate specifically around tricking you and roll catching. People love copping out with subjectivity but it's a lot less applicable in art than they wish to admit or even are capable of seeing. It's the default gut reaction to yell subjectivity so people take that as the truth. It's "easy" to think that's what's happening. Experimentation is good but not when punished so severely. Think this attack was jumpable? It wasn't even though it looked it? well now you probably died thanks to the overtuned damage or got stunlocked and lost your souls and now have to do a runback wasting time. Is that fun? No. Why bother experimenting when the cost for failure (and not even failure that's your fault but the game's bad hitboxes or poor conveyance) is so high?

[@normalguycap]

Lol the coping in comments. Souls fans really have no sense on what makes good action. For the love of god souls fans need to play actual good action games like Nioh, Devil May Cry, Bayonetta, Ninja Gaiden so they have context upon which to evaluate properly. Their scope of knowledge is too limited because they only eat fast food and not a fine dining restaurant once in a while. Souls is baby town stuff and most of what is shown here is hidden unless you go extensively out of your way to find them. Its really unnecessary and the game has exceptionally poor and inconsistent conveyance on top. The bad hitboxes really dont help. Even the video says Romina has 'somewhat refined' hitboxes. I can't believe that's being used as an endorsement. That's how far our standards have fallen when 'somewhat' is acceptable use. Jesus christ souls fans, raise your oathetic standards and get good at the things that matter. It's really not impressive you spent 10 hours learning which bits are jump and crouchable when i can beat it in 30 minutes just by rolling and r1. The actual action games do not have this problem.

[@normalguycap]

People out here really trying to pretend this game is complex and it's sad. It's like baby trying on Dad's boots or little girl stealing Mommy's makeup. The amount of lock on and unlock on really gives it away. Most players will never do that and in other action games, you don't even have to, you get the same speeds and tools by staying locked on. You don't have to gimp yourself or game the mechanics lol.

[@ooloh]

Wow The reason I used ‘somewhat’ is because, admittedly, she has 1 or 2 weird attacks, for the most part actually punishing her instead of the player as these discrepancies cause her to miss easily, as shown in those clips. It’s not really a matter of standards, but rather was that the intention and were they able to achieve it. Not even sure why I am replying to this tantrum rofl

[@evilfungas]

You are malding in the replies of nearly every comment thread on this channel. Souls games are completely different kinds of "action" games and going for a completely different experience than the games you've listed above, they satisfy different things. There is a reason no one listens to people constantly malding about Nioh or DMC in the comments of Souls videos and that's because they're just not the same experiences. They're good games in their own right but people who insist on constantly comparing them every time someone posts a video where people do somewhat advanced things in souls games come off as extremely insecure and, in general, don't seem understand the appeal of souls games, and so are reasonably ignored. I am only replying to you because I see you've been constantly seething to people under this video and I've noticed this trend of malding Nioh/DMC people seething in Soul's comment sections for some reason. Please just go back to playing the games you enjoy and stop embarrassing yourself.

[@normalguycap]

@@ooloh Hey man words are important. They aren't cheap unless you are. Does your word mean nothing? Be accurate or don't complain when people point out a bad shortcut. Keep coping. Nothing that I said was incorrect and you are mad about that. Attack the ideas instead of the person who you know owned you here. You even hyper focused on Romina in your reply and avoided the much more important other stuff.

[@normalguycap]

@@evilfungas LOL stay triggered. You lack the vision and intelligence to understand and that's why you're mad. Instead of even wondering "hey could I be wrong" you double down. Please view John Cleese's explanation of the Dunning-Kruger effect. You need it.

[@Jack.biceps]

Interesting as always 👌👌