Elder Scrolls 6 - Why we need to Wait

[@SubiKinubi]

2011 - you’re the Dragonborn 2023 - you’re the starborn 2047 - you’re here to fix the toilet? Oh thank the 23! We’ve found the plumberborn!

[@AVVGaming1]

@@SubiKinubi haha I mean that really shows a lack of creativity on bethesdas part. Can you imagine a board room meeting? All of them gathered and they’re like “okay, we need a word that summarises their like a space Dragonborn. So they’re in the stars rather than fighting dragons. Any ideas?” lol plumberborn will be awesome when it drops though!

[@SubiKinubi]

@@AVVGaming1 we will remember this!

[@Tariqali-bj5hm]

Born to plumb

[@guruthosamarthruin4459]

We're getting a Bethesda Space Quest game with Roger Wilco!?

[@veryrare432hz]

can yall chill w the toilet jokes ? i always read them when im eating

[@RottenKid88]

Surpassing Skyrim is going to be near impossible, and seeing how Bethesda is doing now, it's straight up impossible.

[@AVVGaming1]

They’re not heading in the right direction that’s for sure. They have so much ground to make up. They have got to listen to listen to fans though. Their response to feedback was not a good sign and displayed arrogance. They need to step back, really study these other games and make a plan. They can’t just go again, the gaming world has advanced a lot since those days.

[@parallaxninja456]

I agree, it is an impossible standard to meet and the expectations will always be super high but I won't give them too much slack. For like two decades, every game they dropped was innovative, ground breaking, and seriously revolutionary. They have the talent, money, and support. All they need to do is not f it up lol

[@packdog70]

Microsoft buying BGS signified the last we''ll see of GOOD Bethesda games, unfortunately. It's pretty pathetic that modders that are working for free are making MUCH better content than a AAA game studio. And let me just be clear, I am NOT including the generally bad to average Creation Club paid content when I speak of modders. When it comes to Creation Club, you figure that paid content would be wayyy better than the free stuff. But you couldn't be more wrong if you thought that. Just look at Enderal. As much as I love Skyrim, Enderal just puts Skyrim to shame in terms of writing, design, and mechanics. Then you have modders like SimonMagnus that by using fairly easy tweaks, make Skyrim a TON better. BGS should be embarrassed.

[@Marco-br2wi]

They just need great stories and definitely great side stories on the same level of Red Baron in Witcher 3 that is the only thing that could make eso 6 better than skyrim. Unfortunately i dont think theyre able to do that since Bethesda likes to be the fast food of RPGs

[@KIRI77]

I would argue surpassing Skyrim isn't difficult, many games have in different ways. But I know when people talk about this they are talking about the feeling Skyrim gave them when they played it for the first time, the ambience, the environments, people talk about how no other game managed to suck them into the world like Skyrim. So in the case of ES6 not only replicating that experience but improving upon it, yeah it's not looking good.

[@Solomon11777]

I was 9 when Skyrim came out I’m 22 now I’ve waited my entire life for this game they better not mess it up

[@AVVGaming1]

Haha so you went through elementary school, high school, jobs etc lol before a new elder scrolls game came out lol. Wow that really puts into context how long it’s been!

[@Solomon11777]

@@AVVGaming1 literally bro around 2016 I was like oh the next elder scrolls could come out any day now and it’s been 8 years since then 😂😂😂

[@WolfJarl]

Not worth it.

[@keepitclean8791]

Take a look at Todd Howard back when he revealed Skyrim and compare that to what he looked like when he revealed ES6, the man has aged so much.

[@potatoyes246]

i was 17 when skyrim came out my senior year. and i just turned 30. it's crazy. i hardly have time to play games anymore. growing up sucks lol

[@hafizmazuki2443]

I going to 80 years old by the time elder scrolls 6 comes out. It's gonna be a "elderly" scrolls for me 😅

[@AVVGaming1]

Haha I think if we get it when you’re 80 that’ll be a blessing! lol it’s like a legend now! Can’t believe they released a trailer then just disappeared lol.

[@Ed-ealmighty]

Don't go blind reading it 😆

[@K.R.98]

@@AVVGaming1 You were surprised? I wasn’t. They pretty much made it clear that they just mentioned it because the fans thought that it won’t be made at all. They said, that they make starfield and then they start with TES6. However I think TES6 won’t be that good anyway. Fallout 4 was a big downgrade. Fallout67 was a dumpster fire. Redfall was a dumpster fire. Starfield was bland, boring, poorly implemented, lazy and complete grind. For me their last good game was Skyrim in 2011. everything from then on was slop. However Skyrim was technically also a let down.(features from previous games were cut heavily and the role-playing aspects were reduced big time) I don’t think TES6 can impress me by any means

[@K.R.98]

@@AVVGaming1 Bethesda provided an upgrade with each release? Omg, no, no, no. There can be debate whether Morrowind or oblivion was the best because Morrowind was the better role playing game, but Oblivion did that quite well too with many features to have a more comfortable gaming experience. Skyrim was fun but it was a major drop in quantity and quality of the role-playing aspects. I wouldn’t call it a role playing game.

[@AVVGaming1]

@@K.R.98 I agree with your point and I do love me some morrowind and oblivion. But, the games were still all good entries. It wasn’t a drastic decline from oblivion to Skyrim. Whereas the difference from Skyrim to fallout 4 to 76 then starfield? Now that’s a different matter altogether

[@internetperson8224]

I’ve been waiting for 13 years, and at this point, I’m less exited than I’ve ever been.

[@AVVGaming1]

It’s mental that possibly the most successful game of all time, would not have a sequel for more than 13 years lol

[@veryrare432hz]

im not even excited for beyond skyrim neither atp lol im just do my thing and when well get major news i get hyped fr

[@AVVGaming1]

@@veryrare432hz there’s nothing worse than getting excited for something that never comes lol

[@AVerySillySausage]

@@AVVGaming1 Wait until you do the maths on what the gap is going to be between single player Fallout games.

[@AVVGaming1]

@@AVerySillySausage haha don’t. By time fallout 5 drops we will be past the year the game is based in lol

[@dard1515]

ESVI is the most accessible Bethesda game yet. You watch the trailer and imagine the game.

[@AVVGaming1]

Haha I’ve actually beat the game at least 12 times! I can literally speed run it in 12 seconds lol

[@Ardeus]

​@@AVVGaming1Noob numbers!!!! I did 100% run at least 30 times.

[@JimTheCurator]

as a blind man, the trailer doesn't help me at all :c

[@СимонВизенталь-ы7ь]

And the result is either Elderfield or Starscrolls. 😂

[@Rorschachqp]

TOTAL IMMERSION

[@raycornford283]

We need to wait? With respect, we've been waiting - for 13 years!

[@AVVGaming1]

And we’re doing such a great job! This was just a quick message to stay strong! Don’t lose hope! I’ll re post again in 13 more years for another boost lol

[@wingedhussar1453]

Just forget about it and it wil release in no time

[@regbart]

@@wingedhussar1453I forgot about the teaser 6 years ago 😑

[@tharealpdilly]

@@AVVGaming1😂😢it hurts so much that you’re probably right lmao

[@mr.crispyfriedchicken3946]

​@wingedhussar1453 wish I could forget about it but every once in a while when I come across a good exploration-based game I think,"hey, remember skyrim?" Then I think, "I wonder when their next game will come out" and get depressed all over again

[@travim4314]

So many of us are nostalgia locked. One or more of Bethesda's games really hooked us (New Vegas and Skyrim for me) and we've been hopeful that every release since would give us the same feelings. It's like Star Wars for me. Just memories now and talking points for the good old days.

[@AVVGaming1]

Yes nostalgia will always play a major role and sometimes memories are best left there. But I know they know (Bethesda) what it takes to make a magical game. They did it many times and it wasn’t a one off. So I know they can do it!

[@WolfJarl]

New Vegas was Obsidian.

[@march8482]

@@AVVGaming1 The time between Morrowind and Skyrim is less than 10 years. The time between Skyrim and now is almost 15 years. I would argue that the majority of the team that was behind those masterpieces has moved on at this point and so, Bethesda is now just a completely different studio.

[@skits972]

So Skyrim came out in 2011, and we got the announcement of TES 6 in 2018, That's 7 years. It's been 6 years since we got that announcement. It's going to be a shorter period of time from Skyrims release to the announcement of TES 6, then from the announcement of TES 6 to its actual release. That's wild.... I think we've waited long enough

[@AVVGaming1]

It’s crazy how they announced that trailer 6 years ago and then did nothing with it. Almost like just to tease us and then laugh about it lol. It’s madness when you consider how successful es3, 4 and then 5 were. Imagine telling your old self back then that it’d be another 15 years before a sequel would drop. You wouldn’t believe it!

[@wingedhussar1453]

​@AVVGaming1 not laughing at us just are excited for the future. They dropped rhe hint it's in hammerfall and that's all. Leaks did say it would release around 2023 but held back etc

[@sammcfarland191]

@@AVVGaming1 I believe the trailer was to boost the studios perceived value and pretty much the trailer served as a reminder of the “hype” behind their games before they sold so they could get more $$ for the Company.

[@march8482]

@@AVVGaming1 That trailer is totally pointless at this point. Maybe they were trying to release it sooner, but changed their mind?

[@connorsnickers1]

Grandkids are gonna love this game

[@AVVGaming1]

Woah woah bit optimistic? Don’t tell them and get their hopes up. Pass the message and then they can tell their grand kids about it, that’d be more realistic lol

[@Deviax28]

​@AVVGaming1 yeah as the gane passes from reality, to legend, to myth before its forgotten completely

[@Damturkey]

I laughed way too hard at this comment

[@shisoup]

I was 14 when the trailer came out, I’m now 20.

[@unnoticed9988]

I was 16 when the trailer dropped I could’ve graduated college by now

[@TheParagonIsDead]

You’ll be 24 when it comes out.

[@jorda229]

@@TheParagonIsDead looks like we have an optimist here

[@TheParagonIsDead]

@@jorda229 I’m not being optimistic I just did the math.

[@PlayerFORgamev]

@@TheParagonIsDeadpeople said they “did the math” for over 10 years now. Back in 2016 stating 2023 as REALISTIC DATE, was as sane as you would get. We are still here, Bethesda is worse than ever, gaming industry became another corporate investors paradise, piracy is more morally acceptable than paying for a game. Doing math doesn’t mean shit when we live in loony town

[@zoutsider88]

better be hand crafted. not proceduraly generated.

[@AVVGaming1]

Hear hear! I’m going to do a video on that explaining how/when it can be used. It’s so unenjoyable. I know it means the game “technically never ends” but I would just rather it ended lol

[@zoutsider88]

@@AVVGaming1 hopefully they learn from starfields blunders.

[@TheParagonIsDead]

Todd has openly said it’ll be handcrafted, as will the new starfield dlc. It’s bound to be good, starfield was just too different from any other game they’ve done to get right.

[@AVVGaming1]

@@TheParagonIsDead perfect! That shows they got the message from the last game! Procedural generated can work but it’d have to be side content. I think main map has to always be hand crafted. I’ve never seen it work the other way before, at least not successfully

[@TheParagonIsDead]

@@AVVGaming1I’m happy about it.

[@Smoking_Tiger]

IMO the first biggest issue Bethesda needs to change is this awful “one size fits all” approach with the creation engine. They use the same engine to make all of their RPG games. They delayed Starfield to finish upgrading their engine to Creation 2.0. It was a great idea for a new IP, but it came with quite possibly the worst execution imaginable. Some of that has to do with engine limitations. It’s obvious BGS wants their own in-house Unreal Engine or something, but it doesn’t work. I came across an old PowerPoint a few months ago that outlined the development plan for the first Fable game. The developers that made the Fable games were pioneers in the industry- they practically created the blueprint for a making better 3D worlds. Along with explaining their ideas of how to build atmosphere, make use of LODs, how to apply textures more effectively, etc, this PowerPoint tells me they basically made the game backwards from the standard development process. They figured out they wanted the game to be, then made a custom engine to support the game they wanted to make. The standard, still to this day, remains as designing a game within a preexisting engine. That means the game is essentially held back by the limitations of the engine used to make the game. So to me, it almost alludes that Starfield was meant to be more than it is but was possibly limited by what Creation 2 is capable of. Assuming that is the case… that would mean that when Bethesda delayed Starfield for Creation 2, it wasn’t because Creation 2 was being designed for Starfield to be the game it needed to be- it was because Bethesda just wanted an upgraded “cookie cutter” engine for all foreseeable future projects (to include Starfield, TESVI, and potentially even Fallout 5 sometime in the 2030s). The point I’m making here is if Starfield was maybe limited by Creation 2, then it’s then also fair to assume TESVI will experience similar problems throughout development. That very well could mean a disappointing game if the expectation is for TESVI to be the game that redefines the open world RPG genre (that is in fact the expectation). It’s also necessary to consider time and cost of development. One can only imagine the production budget for TESVI. That number has to be astronomical. It’s an issue not just with Bethesda, but with every single AAA game studio out there- games cost way more to make than ever before. Share holders and CEOs want a positive return on the investment, so the publishing parent company directs the studio as such. The studio is then forced to ensure the game has the widest possible audience. That’s the reason games are as streamlined and rushed as they are these days. That’s the reason game prices are skyrocketing. That’s the reason why games are now monetized in every possible way. It’s not that developers don’t care- many of them do- but the studio has to run on the shortest staff possible and hurry out a game designed to achieve expected profit margins. Look up it costed for Bethesda to make Starfield, and there’s the answer for the shallow paid creations content. Therefore, TESVI will also be subject to the same problem. It is likely to be heavily monetized and designed to reach and hold into the broadest possible audience. In other words, TESVI will probably not be the deep, definitive, modern RPG the fans actually want and expect. Now, Bethesda is also owned by Microsoft and Uncle Mikey is probably not going to accept TESVI being years and years away still. They absolutely will push Bethesda hard to finish the game as soon as possible within the parameters of financial potential they want. Tl;Dr- Fans shouldn’t wait up for TESVI with high hopes. That game is in a big pickle right now and odds are it won’t be the game we want.

[@AVVGaming1]

Love this comment! 100% agree with every point you made. One of the biggest complains about starfield was loading screens. Go back to 2008 and imagine complaining about loading screens? We didn’t care! They were part of the game in every game. But the fact is today, the gaming world has become accustomed to the new engines that don’t require any loading screens. The creation engine clearly has become so outdated and it limits creativity so much. They really can’t expand much and for them to then take on not just a space game, but push to have 1000 planets in it, I mean it was never going to work! But they stuck with it. They really need to reconsider it and make changes because you’re spot on in that if they stick by the creation engine, it will never get better, there will always be limitations. And they are already falling behind, imagine where other games will be when TES6 finally drops? It’s not just a benefit, it’s a necessity for them to make that change.

[@NevermoreNeverAgain]

It's not like they couldn't have solved this issue long ago. Bethesda is hellbent on sticking to that damned engine either way even when one of their subsidiaries, ID, has ID Tech Engine. Even under Zenimax, I'm sure that it wouldn't have taken that much convincing to get the engine, especially given how ID Tech 5 was designed with all genres in mind, as ID wanted to license the engine before Zenimax bought them out. Not only ID Tech looks amazing but it's very stable and very open to customisation. Not to mention, it's designed for first-person perspective games already... But no, the good, old Gembrio, sorry, Creation Engine needs to stay... And now, Bethesda are under Microsoft, they could probably get any game engine they'd desire and something tells me that Todd will still push for this old and busted Creation Engine anyway!

[@AVVGaming1]

@@NevermoreNeverAgain why are they so fixated on sticking with it?

[@NevermoreNeverAgain]

@@AVVGaming1 Dragon Age Inquisition was forced to use Frostbite, an engine not designed for RPG games, as such they had to build plugins and features into the engine as they were making the game. It made developers at BioWare miserable because learning a new engine is hard enough but building necessary functions into the Engine mid-development is a nightmare. Creation Engine comes from Gamebryo, an engine designed for MMORPG games from the get-go, so getting it for Morrowind was huge. MMO games utilised a huge open world with instanced dungeons, it was perfect, and from that Creation Engine came to be and it still operates much the same way... and it already had questing, levelling and everything built-in. Skyrim is an open world with instanced dungeons, basically, an MMO running natively on a user's PC, instanced cities and buildings to make sure that no memory leaks occur. It's not actually a stupid idea until you make a space game with 1700 planets, then the limitations of the DNA of the engine start to become a burden, especially when Elite Dangerous and No Man's Sky exist for comparison. But Bethesda's been working with the same tech for 22 years now, basically. It's an easy engine to work with, it has all the plugins they need to make games, and the engine is also modifiable, just see how many mods there are for Skyrim or Fallout 4... The reason why they can spit out Fallout 4, Fallout 76 and Starfield in a relatively short period for AAA game development is their knowledge of and familiarity with Creation Engine. It's like the old proverb suggests - you can't teach an old dog new tricks. I think Todd believes that teaching the whole team a new engine will slow development too much. It's just my take on the matter, of course, and the best I can do is speculate. But with all honesty, their boner for bigger and bigger games just holds them back at this point. Already in 2011, with Skyrim, people used to say that the game's as wide as the ocean and as deep as a puddle... and Bethesda just kept widening it more and not adding any depth to it. I mean, do you know that fast travel calculates the time you'd spend on walking in Skyrim or Fallout 4 and you pop out at the in-game time you'd normally arrive there should you walk? It would be a great mechanic if it was utilised for something like, oh I don't know, putting a time limit on completing quests!? But no, it's there, in the engine, just doing nothing, a whole calendar is built into Skyrim, in lore Daedra have specific days for summoning them into the world, the time is being calculated in the background and NOTHING utilizes that mechanic at all, for crying out loud, they don't even use all the features the engine allows them to! Alduin patiently waits to devour the world until you're ready, champ, even if in-game 50 years went by from that wagon ride and chopping block in Helgen. So when I saw that in Starfield one of the things featured prominently was a smartwatch... I couldn't stop laughing. Here's a funny - in Fallout 4, when you finally find Shaun, he looks like that not because the main character was frozen that long but because you were busy building settlements for all this time.

[@raskolnikov6443]

I am glad they are sticking with it. The engine is not the issue. I am so tired of UE games

[@JinzoTK]

ES6 will be Skyrim 1.75 with the only thing good about it being a slightly more modern engine for modders. Bethesda haven't learned many lessons they need to learn and are stubborn and stuck in their own methodologies.

[@AVVGaming1]

That’s the thing though, starfield has received valid complaints and feedback. I know they have replied to those negatively but surely, you’d think, someone in their office must look at these reviews, player feedback and think “right, we need to make some changes.” If they do what you’re saying, it will do okay but it won’t propel them to the top. Other games will keep dropping. They can’t hide behind mods either, as other games (like Witcher 3) are starting to offer that as wellz

[@TheParagonIsDead]

Bruh no.

[@Pemol10]

I'd expect better (for bethesda ofc) monetized modding engine more than anything else

[@Peatingtune]

The even bigger problem is that they're beholden to their shareholders, who have been revealed as people who obviously don't care about, understand or play video games. "Make us richer and do it now." That's their standing order, and that's what Bethesda's management and workers have to try and do or else. Releasing a masterpiece with buffoons screaming at them isn't a possibility.

[@unkosherfood]

considering they made modding *worse* for starfield than skyrim or FO4 with the bad file system and how the main .esm file worked you cant even say that it will have a better engine for modders.

[@leopoz]

In my opinion, Bethesda should have focused on TES more, instead of other projects. Skyrim was a massive hit, but now that its been so long(like 13 years), alot of the momentum from their past success is gone. Theres alot of young gamers who don't even know what TES is anymore, when a decade ago it was all the rage. It is also likely that we will only see a couple more TES games in our lifetime. If it's gonna take 15+ years to make a sequel to a massive hit, imagine how long it could take Bethesda if an installment only has lukewarm success. Its sad, really. I love this series! Oblivion is literally my favorite game of all time, and I've been gaming since Goldeneye.

[@AVVGaming1]

That’s my next video! Would you like to give me a bit of feedback to help? It’s going to be oblivion vs Skyrim which was better? Obviously it’s objective and opinion based but there’s good reasons for both. Are there any in particular you would say that make oblivion your favourite and above Skyrim?

[@leopoz]

@AVVGaming1 Oblivion had more diverse scenery. If you went north, there was snowy mountains, and if you went south, there were people swimming. Skyrim was mostly snowy cold areas. Oblivion also had better quests: going into paintings, going into what is essentially hell itself, and the story was gripping. Skyrim quests i felt were a little basic, and the main story ended abruptly to me, like it was a little rushed. I remember I felt like there was going to be some twist after defeating the main antagonist, but there wasn't, story over. Oblivion also had a bigger world and you could actually craft your own spells. Keep in mind also, Oblivion was made like 5 years before Skyrim. Skyrim was a 9/10, Oblivion was a 10/10.

[@AVVGaming1]

@@leopoz just so you know…one of my next videos I’m doing is oblivion vs Skyrim; who did it better? I think that’ll be a great video! I’m playing oblivion now as it’s been a few years and I need to experience it again!

[@azerty1933]

We actually had 3 TES games since skyrim TESO, TES Blades and TES Castle. The last 2 are mobile cash grabs but they definitely have not given up on the franchise. I think they just know TES 6 is going to either kill or put the company in a new golden age, no in between TES 6 will most likely not live up to the hype but I just hope it will be out before I have kids. When Skyrim was released I was in middle school having the time of my life, now I'm going to get married and I pay taxes

[@casmd2131]

Honestly I’ll be overjoyed if we just get a game that has the same level of care put into its map/world as Skyrim. Since I haven’t seen a game that has outdone skyrim in that respect yet. I think Skyrim has been getting a lot of undeserved hate in recent years, but I do agree that Skyrim could use some better writing/roleplay options.

[@AVVGaming1]

Skyrim still holds up. It’s crazy because the market has been open for that long for a game to come and take its spot but none have quite reached it. Zelda BOTW, TOTK, Witcher 3 etc they’ve been great games but not in the same vein as Skyrim. KCD maybe is the closest and maybe KCD2 will be the one to finally fill that gap.

[@PowerfulSkeleton]

I'm just curious to see what new mechanics they'll strip compared to Skyrim, what lore they'll dilute until its a flavourless Emil mush, and how they'll make us into the Dragonborn 2. I admire your optimism, but I don't think Starfield was enough to shake them into changing their ways.

[@AVVGaming1]

The way they responded to criticism was the biggest problem. If they came out and said “like we’re sorry, we’ve over stretched the creation engine, we need better writing, the procedural generation was lazy, we will learn and come back stronger” then I’d be more optimistic. But the “nah, the fans are just fools!” Response they gave, really was a bad sign lol

[@PowerfulSkeleton]

@@AVVGaming1 I think they can't, because Microsoft is holding their leash. Admitting they screwed up would look terrible, and their owner is already known for executing game studios that perform *well,* so.

[@veryrare432hz]

as long as they make a good world with good physics, the modder could take care of the fun and the lore

[@veryrare432hz]

@AVVGaming1can’t even believe they really said that smh, they even more childish than ubisoft

[@wingedhussar1453]

I don't think they wil be stripping anything. In 2010 the consoles couldn't handle alot so they stripped alot in 2024 they are now stopped by tech anymore or should be. There is noe excuse to not adding

[@gyderian9435]

Imagine if the trailer that came out 6 years ago had told us it will take like 10 years for it to come out..

[@AVVGaming1]

Yes that’d be so funny, if after the title drops it then said coming 2030…ish…

[@marcusappelberg369]

Tes 6 is the Winds of Winter of gaming 😂😢

[@iambrando8342]

Friendly reminder that starfield took about 8 years to develop and look what we got. Any amount of time will no longer save it. The teams that made Skyrim and oblivion are long gone and so are their talent and creativity. Elder Scrolls is dead

[@AVVGaming1]

It’s heartbreaking really and when I play starfield it honestly feels as though the game was made in a year. There’s no comparison between that game and BG3, rdr2 or Witcher 3. These games are next level now and somehow Bethesda have regressed.

[@xN33Dx]

OK, that is crazy to say because ESO gets the newest elder scrolls content and it’s pretty fucking good like it’s always been

[@AVVGaming1]

@@xN33Dx I think he means the offline series not the elder scrolls online. Bethesda have very little to do with that and it’s mainly Zenimax. They have done a good job with it. I’m level 800 or something now.

[@Nicholas-dg9gj]

We didn't "need to wait", they need to learn to announce things in a timely manner. Releasing a trailer years ahead of having even the slightest bit of gameplay to show off, let alone release is just plain shortsighted.

[@AVVGaming1]

Yes the whole trailer seemed like a pointless exercise as nothing ever followed. It really was a strange decision to release that trailer in 2018

[@mikagrof9243]

@@AVVGaming1 the Teaser was mainly released because fans were screaming that there wouldnt be an elderscrolls 6 etc, I've heard some devs even got death threats etc so it was more of a it will happen kinnda thing hence why theres no time frame etc on it.

[@AVVGaming1]

@@mikagrof9243 okay that’s just silly why make death threats? I hope that wasn’t the case but there’s a lot of crazy people out there lol

[@fold4x]

I was in high school when the trailer came out. I am now a PhD student.

[@AVVGaming1]

Congrats to you on working to get a phd! You’ll have graduated and be deep into your career by time the second trailer drops lol. Once you have finished your career, raised a family, and decided to finally call time on your long career….the game will drop lol

[@march8482]

And when it comes out, you will be too old or don't have any time to enjoy it 😅

[@fold4x]

@@march8482 I already don't have any time to enjoy it 💀

[@NoBaconForYou]

Yeah if they complicate combat in TES 6, I won’t play it. The simple combat of Elder Scrolls is a huge part of why it is so fun.

[@AVVGaming1]

Yes that was a bad example. I just meant it needs to look more modern. It needs new animations and weight etc. just the same as in Skyrim but more modernised if that makes sense? I would want it to be as difficult as Elden ring etc

[@march8482]

The best thing they could do, at least in my opinion, is making difficulties, but with each difficulty, you introduce more game mechanics. The enemies have largely the same health pool etc. but on higher difficulties they are more aggressive, block and parry more, are more resourceful, etc. The problem with skyrim is that difficulty is mainly implemented through enemy health pools and damage. Combine that with the way they implemented level scaling (or lack thereoff) and you have fights that are super easy and one minute later you are getting your a** kicked.

[@mdkos]

I can't disagree with your points about Bethesda upping their narrative skills to at least match Witcher 3's... but I, for one, really don't want the combat to be overhauled. If anything want it to go back to Oblivion, with weapons that needed upkeep, spellcrafting, and better stealth mechanics (stealthy archer could work, but wasn't the most efficient path to go necessarily). Elder Scrolls after Oblivion became a First Person Action RPG, and just progressed more into the action side of it. The combat in Kingdom Come was full on RPG and made sense to the world it was in. You started off as a nobody with barely any practice with sword fighting, and combat got easier as you leveled up. It made sense for that world. In ES games, I want to start off as a character that knows how to hit enemies with whatever basic skills I start out with without having to do any fiddly BS to make my attacks connect. Combat in post-Morrowind ES should be down to when do I attack, when do I block, when do I side-step and use cover. I don't want a game where it's not only when do I attack, but how do I move my control stick to make the most effective attack (arthritis and cubital tunnel is making KB+M fighting that was essentially required in KC an impossibility). Also, if I want a souls-like experience, I'll play a souls-like game. I've played 2, Dark Souls Remastered and Elden Ring, I've hated the experience in both. Keep your souls-like addiction out of my Scrolls, please.

[@AVVGaming1]

@@mdkos yes I didn’t mean as in bring dark souls combat to es6. It’s its own thing that and belongs in the games it’s in. For example, those games are known to be difficult. Es6 would not be vying with that same audience or trying to match that. It’s designed to be accessible for everyone. What I was referring to is just maybe something a bit more in-depth. I agree with your points about oblivion. Skyrim was a bit simpler and less complex. Is there anything you’d change about the combat system? Like a dodge button? A parry timing thing like Witcher? Or would you just say keep it the same. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it kind of thing

[@mdkos]

@@AVVGaming1 I don't know about using a dedicated dodge button, but I wouldn't mind a parry mechanic as long as it wasn't critical to whether you won or lost a battle. In ES I shouldn't take massive damage just because I miss timed the button push and blocked the attack instead of perfect timing parrying. At most it should just be a way to stagger the opponent. I like the left/right handedness of Skyrim, so keep that in coupled with the overcharge ability for dual wielding spells. Speaking on spells: Bring back meaningful spell-crafting. If I can craft a spell that creates a giant electrified fireball that leaves a freezing cloud in its wake that would completely nuke everything in a room if I set it off in the center (including me), then so long as I have the Magika and skill to cast it, LET ME CREATE IT! Weapons should degrade as they're used as they did in Oblivion, so for extra long times away from town carry backup weapons and maybe learn multiple styles of combat (multi-classing) to maximize efficiency. As for healing... I think there should be some reasonableness to it. Speed eating 300 potatoes in the middle of battle shouldn't really be a thing... but maybe making Healing Potions super easy to craft and stock up on before entering a dungeon? There does need to be some kind of balance for prep-time and planning when going out on quests. Key point I want to make is there needs to be a high level of forgiveness on the player: Mistakes in battle shouldn't ever kill you alone.

[@AVVGaming1]

@@mdkos totally agree with every point you make! Also, didn’t oblivion have better spell crafting compared to Skyrim? I also don’t get the whole food system in either Skyrim or Starfield. It feels like it’s just too little. You’d have to eat 1000 potatoes in both to get a small bit of health back. They should consider adding new stats for eating food. Either like, more health for a set amount of time, more Xp, or like in Zelda BOTW and TOTK how different food helps in environments. I feel like it’s a missed opportunity in the Bethesda games so far. I think food had more value in fallout though. I do agree with all your points on combat though.

[@mdkos]

@@AVVGaming1 Skyrim didn't have spell crafting except through mods; and even then it was more limited than what Oblivion had. Mechanics-wise I felt that Skyrim was a huge step back from Oblivion, while the combat mechanics that Oblivion stripped from Morrowind were necessary (i.e. missing a cliffracer 30 times because your dice rolls sucked). Ideally, ES should go back to the story telling level of Morrowind (very similar to Witcher 3 where some side quests could be as engaging or more engaging than the main) while having Oblivion's combat as a base, with some extensions to it, such as the ability to parry and dual weilding weapons and spells similar to Skyrim. Personally, I'm looking forward to what "The Wayward Realms" will have to offer as an ES alternative.

[@SubiKinubi]

You can’t be serious that you want combat in the year 2147 to have combat of 2004?

[@matthewburton6360]

Ya know as someone who really loves Skyrim despite its age and as even who is enjoying Starfield currently. It is is hard to imagine getting a Rockstar level of realism in a Bethesda game and a Kingdom Come level of role playing.

[@AVVGaming1]

Yes I don’t think they have to match RDR2 for immersion, I mean that game is so far ahead in that regard that it’s ridiculous. What they have to do though is find their strength. They have to stand out for something. Usually it was the “freedom” of exploration. But starfield has tried a different technique. It was a tough ask for them to now only compete with other RPg games but they would be compared with No Man’s Sky which had seamless space travel. They must have known people would immediately point that out. There’s a lot of pressure on Bethesda at the moment and they need a smash hit soon

[@jmangames5562]

And thats not Bethesda, there a fantasy game studio. I don’t want realism graphics I want a beautiful world with amazing quests, npc and story.

[@revben]

@@AVVGaming1 No Mans Sky with all the quests and NPCs?

[@parallaxninja456]

I remember my family was *kinda* into oblivion. I remember when me my dad and brother first say the announcement trailer for skyrim and we thought it was crazy to wait a year or however long it was before it released. Imagine announcing to the world that elder scrolls 6 still would not be out in 2024... I would never live through that lol

[@AVVGaming1]

Haha you wouldn’t believe it if you heard it! Imagine having one of the most popular video games of all time, and then never releasing a follow up! lol it’s just insanity and goes against everything you would expect. Really by now we should have had two games from the series.

[@parallaxninja456]

@@AVVGaming1 Seriously. I guess they thought re releasing it 12 times was the better route lol. Agree that we should be having a 2nd new game at this point too. At least for games like GTA V they add a bunch of stuff for the online mode. Skyrim's lifespan has really been carried by nostalgia and the modding community over the last few years so bethesda has zero excuse or can't act like they've been adding a bunch of stuff similar to rockstar. If it weren't for the nostalgia or modding community, bethesda would be 10 feet deeper in the pile of $hit they created. I was 11 when Skyrim came out... barely a middle schooler, now I am 24 still with no elder scrolls 6. that is literally insane

[@AVVGaming1]

@@parallaxninja456 not just that, but with GTa6 you can see that it’s going to be amazing. It’s graphically superior to 5 and you can see things like more dense population, better graphics, etc just in the ad. So besides adding the content online to 5, their next release is worth the wait. The wait for starfield (15 years) didn’t really show any progression. I think it’s the lack of progression that’s been the most disappointing. The gaming world advanced but Bethesda just stay where they are. With their budget and reputation they should be the leader in the industry, not where they are now.

[@parallaxninja456]

@@AVVGaming1 100% agree man its a shame. Seems like they've been twitling their thumbs celebrating Skyrim for too long then all they have to say is "Oops!"

[@AVVGaming1]

@@parallaxninja456 imagine selling Skyrim 1000 times and re releasing it knowing how much people love it, and then not to make a sequel lol instead creating a space game! It’s mental

[@DPUDDZ]

I dont think the long wait will make it any better. I no longer believe Bethesda have the ability to make something great, they make good skeletons then slowly let Moddershall catch them up.

[@AVVGaming1]

I know and it’s not acceptable. Other games are getting in on the modding aspect too like Witcher 3 introducing the modding options. It can’t be their only strength because other games will do it too and it’ll leave them stranded. The difference between starfield and Skyrim (13 years) was not even apparent besides better graphics. They have to really think on this one before pumping it out. They are still in that bracket of games people can’t wait for, but if this one is just starfield again, I feel that reputation will be gone

[@veryrare432hz]

and it wont feel like a tes game without soule

[@TheRealJohnux]

They should fire their arrogant, entitled and less than mediocre lead writer first, and after that should work on the issue that everything Was downgraded from every entry in the series, and then innovate on their gameplay.

[@TheMysterieRPGguy]

As much as I love the elder scrolls I've learned a few very important things over the last 10 or so years, that I will remember as the hype train for the elder scrolls 6 starts to take off. Number 1: Don't set your expectation to high. Number 2: Remember their past mistakes because they've made plenty. And number 3: For the love of god whatever you do DO NOT PRE-ORDER! I do look forward to TES 6 but starfield and Bethesda response to the backlash proves they are still stuck in the mindset that they can do no wrong and that they did no wrong. So I'm looking forward to a success but I am ready for disappointment.

[@AVVGaming1]

Yes and my point in being that they need time to get it right is null and void if they don’t make any attempt to improve. They have to listen to fan feedback and take it on. They need to upgrade now. Skyrim will always be there as one of the best. But they cannot starfield es6. And as far as pre ordering goes, I wouldn’t pre order anything really just to be safe lol. But I’ll admit, I might do for KCD2!

[@TheMysterieRPGguy]

@@AVVGaming1 Yeah let's hope they really listen to the fans and improve upon their game design. TES 6 is still years away but if it's the same as starfield when it comes out it would be completely unacceptable. And yeah not pre ordering is hard sometimes, I might do it for KCD2 as well but I'll try not to it's the smart thing to do.

[@AVVGaming1]

@@TheMysterieRPGguy yeah I worry about how they replied to the feedback on starfield. Imagine telling fans they’re wrong. That’d be like me getting 100 comments and 90 of them all say “you pronounced x word wrong”. Rather than Change the pronunciation I reply to each of the 90 comments saying they’re wrong lol it shows arrogance and I honestly think that is the thing holding them back the most. They need to put their fans first again! That’s why KCD was so good and why 2 will be as well. They’re in touch with their fans.

[@TheMysterieRPGguy]

@@AVVGaming1 Exactly yes.

[@sumirunihon]

If ESVI can take the combat of elden ring, immersion of rd2, storytelling of witcher 3, roleplaying of kingdom come deliverance, and world size of eso and combine them into one, esvi might just be the best rpg ever made. I'd be willing to wait until skyrim turns 20 for a game like that. as long as they are actually using their time efficiently to craft a well made game i'll remain patient.

[@riothead1240]

Im so worried about ES6 and FO5. Starfield was supposed to be the magnum opus for Bethesda and it was awful. Fo76 took 4 years to get decent.

[@AVVGaming1]

Yes and decent isn’t the level we expect. I think they need to take some serious time to evaluate what to do with es6. It needs a major update, new engine, new writing, lots of changes, but most importantly, they have to listen to fan feedback, not fight it! If they listened to what people said when criticising starfield, they would learn exactly what to do in order to give the game a boost! Here’s hoping that they take in on board. And they need to limit procedural generation. It’s just no replacement for a hand crafted map.

[@riothead1240]

@@AVVGaming1 Listen to fan feedback?? at a AAA studio? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@AVVGaming1]

@@riothead1240 I know, terribly outdated concept lol

[@parallaxninja456]

I never played starfield but I heard mixed things. It seems cool, but man, I don't understand how bethesda can sit here and add new titles to their plate when they already have two of the biggest series in gaming on their todo... I'll stand by the fact that bethesda were innovators. They paved they way for gaming in many ways. My problem with starfield upfront is that it didn't seem like it was that innovative based on reviews. Not that bethesda has to drop game of the year with every title, but man they used to for a very long time and I don't see how people can defend this weird shift. Fallout 76 is great and I've played it so much. To be fair, I would say it was really worth it around 2 years after it came out. I think bethesda only started to care about the game recently is because of the success of the show unfortunately. All of these standards are on them though like people said. They set the precedence for their work, they can't be mad when we point out they fall short of that.

[@riothead1240]

@@parallaxninja456 after putting 90 hours into Starfield I sat there in the menu and couldnt not for the life of me recall a moment in the game that stood out as something to remember. The plot twists were boring and easily spotted well before they happen. I tried to love it but I couldnt. Bethesda's jank though once fun and kind of charming is now exhausting.

[@recon_jon6151]

Personally, I play Skyrim to relax, not for anxiety. That's for elden ring... In my case.

[@AVVGaming1]

@@recon_jon6151 haha yeah that’s the big difference with it. I’m playing Skyrim right now as I write this comment. It’s so well done in terms of being a chill game. There’s not many like it.

[@lfcmike12]

Oblivion's combat system was more intricate than Skyrim's was lmao they truly just went for mass market appeal and put a middle fjnger up to their fans at the time. Not to mention the cities in Oblivion being larger than the ones in Skyrim too. Skyrim is a great game, I have enjoyed it for a long time now, but it's incredibly simplistic even compared to previous titles in the franchise and without modding I wager it'd be a forgotten title

[@parallaxninja456]

I agree and I love Oblivion to death. Oblivion is definitely a more traditional rpg kinda game and skyrim is a more modern take on it. I'm worried about things too though. It seemed like many amazing mechanics and elements in oblivion did not return in skyrim for some reason while other improvements were great. It just sucks that most companies are tone deaf, or more so focused on the business side and less of the player side.

[@AVVGaming1]

I preferred the RPG elements and spell creation etc in oblivion over Skyrim. The quests were better too. Skyrim got a pass because it still had a lot to offer, but the signs were there. I actually agree that there desire for mass appeal is the main reason their games are declining but what’s that saying “if you try to please everyone you will end up pleading no one”

[@amygodward4472]

Honestly at this point, I would just be thrilled with another Skyrim but set in a new location and then add on their dlcs as they're released. I've lost count how many Skyrim characters I've created, but everytime I just find myself wandering the land and soaking up the glitchy chaos of it all, without having to think too hard about tactics. Sigh...one day

[@AVVGaming1]

It will happen one day! I’ve played the game probably about 15 times in total. It just has that ability for you to play it with no sign of fatigue at all!

[@windowsvista5034]

It’s hard to watch a beloved series like The Elder Scrolls gradually lose the depth and complexity that made it great. Since Morrowind, the franchise has shifted steadily away from its roots as a deep, immersive RPG and moved towards a more streamlined, action-focused experience. This change has alienated many long-time fans who miss the depth and player agency of earlier games. Looking ahead to The Elder Scrolls VI, I fear the series will continue down this path of simplification, especially given Bethesda’s recent track record with games like Fallout 4, Fallout 76, and Starfield. Morrowind represents the pinnacle of what The Elder Scrolls can achieve as an RPG. The game offered a richly detailed world that encouraged exploration and experimentation. There were no quest markers or hand-holding - players had to rely on vague directions, their own intuition, and a deep engagement with the game world to progress. Character development was incredibly flexible, allowing for a wide range of playstyles, from stealthy assassins to powerful mages. The game’s systems - like spellcrafting, enchanting, and alchemy - were deep, interconnected, and full of possibilities. The best thing about Morrowind was its sense of player agency. The game gave you a set of tools and let you figure out how to use them. You could ignore the main quest entirely, make morally ambiguous choices, and experience a world that felt genuinely responsive to your actions. It was a game that respected its players, trusting them to create their own stories and navigate its complex mechanics. With Oblivion, Bethesda began shifting towards a more accessible approach. The game retained many of the RPG elements of Morrowind, but they were noticeably streamlined. The introduction of a fast travel system, for instance, made the world feel less expansive and more convenient, reducing the sense of adventure and discovery that Morrowind offered. The leveling and skill systems were simplified, and quests became more linear, with quest markers guiding players from point to point. Oblivion also saw a move towards more generic fantasy tropes. While Morrowind featured an alien and unique setting, Oblivion’s world was more familiar and traditional. The quest design, while still offering some interesting choices, began to feel more formulaic. Bethesda’s emphasis on broadening the game’s appeal was evident, but at this point, the series still maintained much of its RPG identity. By the time Skyrim rolled around, the transformation was complete. Skyrim is less an RPG and more an action game with RPG elements. The game is undeniably beautiful, with a world that was fun to explore, but it sacrifices much of the depth and complexity that defined its predecessors. Character customization is heavily streamlined; attributes like Strength, Intelligence, and Willpower were removed, and skills were consolidated, reducing the range of meaningful character builds. The perk system, while interesting at first glance, is quite shallow compared to Morrowind’s intricate spellcrafting and enchanting mechanics. Dialogue options are limited and rarely impact the story in any meaningful way, and NPCs lack depth and complexity. The combat system, while engaging in a real-time, action-oriented sense, lacks the tactical and strategic depth that fans of traditional RPGs expect. Skyrim is built around delivering a visceral experience, but it often feels more like an action-adventure game dressed up in RPG clothing. The concerns only deepen when you look at Bethesda’s recent track record. Fallout 4 showed a clear trend towards further simplification and action. It reduced RPG elements, like dialogue choices, in favor of streamlined, action-focused gameplay. Fallout 76 was a mess at launch, filled with bugs and lacking in content. It was an attempt to chase the live-service, multiplayer trend with little regard for what fans of the series actually wanted. Starfield was supposed to be Bethesda’s grand return to form, but many players felt it fell short of expectations. Despite being marketed as a deep and expansive RPG, Starfield leaned heavily on repetitive fetch quests, lackluster storylines, and limited player agency. The procedural generation of planets led to a lot of generic, uninspired content, further highlighting the studio’s recent struggle to deliver the depth and innovation that made their earlier games stand out. Given Bethesda’s trajectory, there’s a strong likelihood that The Elder Scrolls VI will follow a similar path of further simplification. The emphasis will likely be on accessibility, streamlined mechanics, and mass-market appeal. We could see the removal or further merging of skills - perhaps combining magic schools into a single “Magic” skill or merging weapon skills into a generic “Combat” skill. Attributes may be reduced or eliminated entirely, leaving only health, stamina, and magicka. The trend towards removing or simplifying mechanics that offer depth is likely to continue. The spellcrafting system, which was already axed in Skyrim, will probably remain absent. Alchemy might be further simplified into a basic crafting system with fewer ingredients and effects. Complex questlines with multiple outcomes could be replaced by more linear, straightforward quests designed to ensure all players reach the same outcome. Even the narrative could lean into generic fantasy clichés to avoid alienating the broader audience.

[@AVVGaming1]

Can I use this comment content for one of my upcoming videos? I literally wanted to do a video on this soon! I wanted to cover both what you’ve said in terms of RPG mechanics, depth etc. but also the writing. Writing has declined along with the other stuff. It’s sort of gone hand in hand. You’ve basically put into a comment what the whole video was going to be about but probably even better than I could put it. I think if they had stopped at Skyrim, maybe add more RPG elements, they would have continued to be excellent. But they’ve contributed to streamline and simplify like you said after that and there is no sign of that stopping or slowing down. Starfields writing etc was even more basic than fallout 4 which was more streamlined and basic than oblivion etc. this is exactly how I feel too!

[@windowsvista5034]

@@AVVGaming1 go ahead! Love your content

[@FrackinTeufelhunden]

Bethesda has been in this position before, and their answer back then was TES III, surpassing all expectations. I think that after a humbling reality check over the years regarding their current position in this market, they will pivot and break ground on new concepts. I hold out hope. They love the series as much as the fans do, despite some of their business practices. I always find something I enjoy from their games.

[@AVVGaming1]

I agree and as far as the business practices go, it’s not really the fault of a person coding the game. It’s a separate thing and I accept they’ve been awful. But when you play Skyrim it still holds that magic. Both TES 3.4 and 5 all were standout titles. fallout 3 and 4 were great as well. 76 and Starfield were not. So that’s a ratio of 5:2. They have delivered more than they haven’t, albeit not recently. But they know well they gotta get this one right.

[@IreneSmith]

I have reached the point where I feel that Bethesda doesn't care anymore what their customers want and need. I've been playing their games since Arena. I tried Starfield on XBox Game Pass and, after an hour or so, I was so bored I quit and have never bone back.

[@AVVGaming1]

I feel like they’re changing their target market and trying to make their games simpler and more basic. Less immersive and it’s just not hitting the levels we expect. I would say the decline started right after Skyrim. At least it picked up pace at that time.

[@swampraider3488]

Replaying Morrowind now. It's insane how much they drifted from their origins

[@CertifiedClapaholic]

I've been a massive TES fan for 20 years now, ever since I was introduced to Morrowind. I've never been less excited for a TES game, and I actually have 0 faith that it won't be a soulless feeling world with 0 immersion.

[@AVVGaming1]

I feel the pain in that post. You’re not alone with a lot of people having the same experience. I include myself. But that being said, we have other great games coming out like wayward realms, KCD2, etc. so we pray for the best es game we can get, but even then if it doesn’t happen we have options! I’ll do a video on this soon with all the Alternate options. Thanks for the comment!

[@Tubby5473]

To be honest, I've never thought of them redoing the combat, but they might have to or at least make it more like kingdom come where as you level up, you can see a difference in ability. You are right, though they have a lot to live up to, and if ES6 doesn't come out swinging, i fear bethesda is going to be done for just like Blizzard. They thought they were king and fell hard. I hope that they can figure their shit out because elder scrolls is a wonderful IP.

[@AVVGaming1]

@@Tubby5473 it really is! Or at least it has been up until now. I generally feel like Bethesda have been putting it off, releasing another. They have done everything but make a sequel. They seem to delay and I feel like it is almost a fear or trying to live up to expectations. They have hurt their reputation with their recent releases, and this really is the make or break moment for them.

[@Tubby5473]

​@AVVGaming1 100% I completely agree. Im hoping for them taking their time is a showing that they still have it and can put out peak games that push the boundaries of great games like they used to. We shall see though.

[@parallaxninja456]

agree, they set high standards with their games in the past, now they are doing way too much...

[@johny-j2k]

The sad things is as we get older we game less and less, the excitement for es6 slowly dwindles :(

[@AVVGaming1]

And you’re not wrong there :( often as we grow up we start to have less time for gaming and find it harder to immerse ourselves in these fantasy worlds, but I can tell you even though we may feel we’ve lost the passion, one game like BG3, or KCD, will come along and recapture us and remind us why we fell in love with gaming in the first place!

[@zacharythatcher7328]

For older gamers it’s actually commonly held that every elder scrolls game has been worse than the prior. They generally trade immersion and storytelling for mass appeal by including whatever features are popular in the gaming industry at the time. They’ve also consistently disproportionately prioritized ease of use. Skyrim was so incredibly basic that it hurt to play it. Talk to npc, get quest marker, kill things with bad combat (even for the time), go to new quest marker. How on earth am I supposed to do that for more than 20 minutes? Why on earth did I spend 50 hours doing it? None of the characters were very engaging in Skyrim and the autogenerated fetch quests made everything feel more uncanny than alive. The only good things I can say about it is that it had good music and visuals and made the world and lore of Elder Scrolls more accessible to non-gamers. People who played the prior games know that the characters and stories used to have more depth, and those are the only reason to spend more than 20 minutes playing if we’re being realistic with ourselves.

[@AVVGaming1]

So my next video is discussing this. The removal of RPG elements and good writing from game to game. It’s been a downward trend from Morrowind, then to oblivion and finally to Skyrim. What’s crazy is that have actually gone even more basic with fallout 4 then starfield. Like there are quests were you need to investigate a crime scene, and they just put markers on what you need to check lol. It’s just silly. That’s one of my next videos but the next one is about the writing in Bethesda and why it’s declining

[@dankbeans9085]

Bro if my Skyrim mod list is better than Elder Scroll 6. That just sad

[@AVVGaming1]

Your mod list may well be better than ES6! It’s going to be tough for Bethesda to outshine all those mods with a new game.

[@Kaptinkush6]

was just gonna agree, this game is going to be an even bigger flop than starfield, and we heard how long Todd had been working on that one…

[@kylejoly577]

A good Elder Scrolls 6 will be a blend of Morrowind's writing/worldbuilding, Oblivion's guild quests/charm and Skyrim's ability to appeal to a wide audience. Doing this while building back in some more 'traditional' RPG elements is a tall order. But I'm holding out hope!

[@AVVGaming1]

That’s the spirit! If that was the game we got, as you have described it, we’d all be thrilled! I think you’ve summed up the best parts about all the games there. I was just playing Skyrim last night for my next video and the world was absolutely stunning. It just had so much character and uniqueness to any other gaming world. But the writing was so basic and each guild felt copy and paste. I much preferred the guild stories in oblivion and morrowind was strong in its RPG elements.

[@Evil_gumby]

Morrowind was successful because Todd let lose, he let the team do their thing. He personally hated developing Morrowind, he had more involvement in Oblivion, less in Skyrim, unlike Starfield he micromanaged the Shiate out of that.

[@kylejoly577]

@@Evil_gumby how do you mean hated developing Morrowind? I know there was a lot of crunch as they were under huge pressure - is that what you mean?

[@AVVGaming1]

@@Evil_gumby yeah and you can see that in his interviews. I bet they were yelling at him in the studio “please Todd, it’s not going to work, we can’t build 100 planets! They’ll be empty”. Todd’s response “you’re damn rihht! We need 1000! 16 times the details!” Lol

[@Evil_gumby]

@@kylejoly577 No, he hated Morrowind, the whole thing lol

[@NikoZ-w3q]

Never played Morrowind, but imagine the upgrade you felt after playing Oblivion, and then watching the gameplay feature dual wielding blades in Skyrims Teaser.

[@ivan_matvichuk]

Only when players demand a normal game, and say that new Bethesda games are worthless, only then, in a critical situation, will they make a "new Morrowind". I have high hopes for Tes 6, but we as players need to remember that without our criticism of Bethesda games, they will just think that "people are already snatching" or that we don't care, I'm a die-hard fan of the TES series, and I want them not to screw up, so that Tes 6 would become as popular and successful as Skyrim in its time!

[@AVVGaming1]

I think Skyrim showed how complacent they could be as they stopped innovating after that. I’m not sure your opinion on fallout 4 but it basically dropped all the RPG elements in Morrowind. They dropped hand crafted worlds when they made starfield. They focused too much on settlement building in 4. Recently Bethesda have appear to have been ignoring the fans and not listening to feedback and I hope the criticicism of starfield will wake them up and get them back on track!

[@ivan_matvichuk]

@@AVVGaming1 I want to think so too!

[@playboithecreator]

I’m honestly surprised cyberpunk 2077 didn’t get a mention when comparing starfield to other RPGs. Combat in that game is so much fun and like the Witcher, the side quests had different outcomes and were really fun to play.

[@AVVGaming1]

Yes I did a video right after this one called “is CDPR the new Bethesda?” And I mentioned cyberpunk a lot on that. I’m going to do a video just on cyberpunk soon because it really deserves some serious love as it’s stunning

[@nezarecdiscipleofthewitnes3823]

1:43 its taking this long because Bethesda is filled with lazy devs and management is just as lazy and clearly doesnt push deadlines enough. Im all for the wait but im sure as hell gonna complain about it along the way.

[@AVVGaming1]

Yes and they need to speak up! Obviously Todd pushed for starfield really hard but someone must have said “this isn’t right, it’s not Bethesda” and tried to make changes. They need to stop being lazy though. Radiant quests, procedural generated worlds, it’s just lazy compared to their past games.

[@xypherath]

I was 17 when the trailer came out, 23 now, probably gonna in my 30’s when elder scrolls 6 comes out

[@AVVGaming1]

That’s crazy ! So you’d have been 10 when Skyrim released!

[@vaggabunt]

tbh i think stiff NPCs and flat story writing isnt only a problem of starfield in terms of bethesda games. I am a huge fan of Skyrim and followed the course of bethesdas games since i began to play it. Sadly it seems to me that they keep making the same mistakes again and again, and if this wont change then ES6 can take 10 years development and still will be underwhelming. Every constructive process needs honest self critic and the ability to mark out what is wrong and what is to do then. ps i just hope the game will have the same if not more support for modding, bc this is what kept Skyrim alive for so many years.

[@AVVGaming1]

Yes and even with the writing, in Skyrim it was very short and basic. But we had a giant open world to explore. It was a standout game in 2011, Starfield would have been the same if it came out in 2011 too, but the engine, writing is starting to age. They need to take a few more risks and need new writing too. Their writing has been on the decline since oblivion. But you’re right, they cannot make changes at the sacrifice of modding. It’s a dilemma for sure.

[@desolation1821]

The issue is that while ES6 has been announced in 2018, at that point and all the way until the release of Starfield, the game has been in pre-production with only a small team working on it. The majority (and for times) all of Bethesdas main Studio where working on Starfield rather than ES6. If ES6 was in main production for all this time, my hopes that we would get something truly breathtaking and amazing, something that would put Bethesda at the top again, would have been high. But as it stands ES6 does not have that much production time into it. And while a release date is not on the horizon any time soon, the game will still have a lot less development time than you think it will have.

[@AVVGaming1]

I know and it’s a shame when you look at starfield. I played Skyrim yesterday and kept thinking “I cannot believe they managed to make this in just a few years!” When I play starfield I think “I cannot believe they took this long as the game looks like it was done in a year”

[@ianmurphy3250]

nice video bro. i could sit down to hear a story from you any time

[@AVVGaming1]

Thank you so much! That really means a lot! I’ve been doing this for 5 months now and hoping to keep going strong. I’m working on my next now and comments like this keep me pumped!

[@Thorshammer9]

Might be fun if they did what Everquest 2 did with the Landmark project. They crowd sourced many game elements from players by giving the players the world and all they needed to harvest and build, sort of like Minecraft. I LOVED it. There were so many possibilities, and the areas and buildings they liked the most were used in the game.

[@AVVGaming1]

Okay so I haven’t played that game yet, but I’m putting on my list to play! Love games like that! Thanks for the tip. Maybe I will do a video highlighting things they can take from a game like EverQuest 2 as well! Thank you.

[@tannerwigmore7079]

I’m not gonna lie, every single elder scrolls has been ahead of its time and I have no doubt that ES6 will be the same. Every time a game delays its release I get more excited, I call it the Red Dead 2 equation, Delay a game = Better overall experience. I still have hope in Bethesda and they will NOT let me down

[@AVVGaming1]

Bethesda may have not done great with 76 and Starfield but the fact is, they have never failed an ES game. So I also hold hope. If they stick to what they did for the past games but just replicate it with todays graphics etc then we are in for a treat!

[@Cope1111]

DELUSIONAL

[@DOAMunroe]

As a fellow Elder Scrolls V enthusiast and re-player since day of release, I fully appreciate your professionalism and fairly objective, open-minded, journalistic delivery, regarding this gamer topic. Our gaming industry and now, culture, is a constant evolutionary, fickle entity... Elder Scrolls 6 will be the business, regardless of other games out at that time of release, as long as it's evolved via the Modsters and content developers to date.

[@AVVGaming1]

Thank you for the kind words. I’m relatively new at this KZbin thing and I’m trying to balanced in my approach to things but each video is a lesson. The video game industry in itself is a tough place as sometimes we get products that have taken years to make and we still are not content because of minor errors. It’s strange but I think Bethesda still have the ability to make a decent game. But they have to go back to hand crafted content and story telling. Starfield was not the right direction in my personal opinion

[@HzrdHaze]

4:20 Id rather have Skyrims simple and straightforward hack and slash over Elden Rings or any Souls-esque style of combat any day. Elden ring is boring

[@AVVGaming1]

Yes I’ve had a few comments like this, and I was trying to say how combat has evolved in video games since 2011. I did not mean to suggest that we implant dark souls combat to es6. Elden ring has the better combat, but it has no story, no side quests, no towns, no housing, etc. I was just using it as an example to show how combat has evolved in gaming since 2011. Maybe not the best example.

[@HzrdHaze]

@@AVVGaming1 Understood. Good vid regardless and I’m glad they are taking their sweet time with this game lest we get another messy release like so many we have gotten the past 5 years from any AAA dev team.

[@abears7107]

@@AVVGaming1what are both of you talking about? Elden ring has a good story and side quests it’s just not built on a universe already teeming with lore like elder scrolls

[@AVVGaming1]

@@abears7107 I’d say Elden ring is less about story more about “being in the moment”. They also use a different format for story telling e.g. item descriptions, hidden messages etc. their lore isn’t right in your face. You have to focus to get the story. It’s also left to the player “go find these gods and kill them” and that’s it. Each has a really good background story but you have to zone in to get it. It’s a background thing rather than the main attraction. In Witcher 3 for example, there are hour long cut scenes, exact quests with specific instructions on what to do etc. so both have stories yea, both well written, but one holds your hand every step of the way, whereas Elden ring wants you to figure it out yourself. Both good but in different ways. Does that make sense?

[@Gourmet_Clay]

I wouldn’t say Elden Ring is boring, but I would say I play Skyrim for Skyrim and I play Elden Ring for Elden Ring I do wish for more complex fighting, but I feel as though I’d be happy implementing mechanic similar to dishonored where you have a parry but focused less on Dodge rolls and flasks

[@kevinmason6130]

Skyrim is my all time favorite game probably have over 1,000 hours on it through the multiple system play throughs. The one thing I haven’t seen any other game replicate is the aspect of freedom. The ability to play however you want and develop your skills how you see fit mix and match, have one style, be good be evil, it doesn’t matter. You can change your mind at anytime

[@darthsinister9942]

I really do not want tactical combat in elderscrolls.

[@AVVGaming1]

Yes fair enough. I think I was more saying it just needed to be modernised a bit more. Like more animations etc. starfields melee combat was a bit basic.

[@darthsinister9942]

@AVVGaming1 I think the combat will get updated and be better than Starfield out of necessity. With Starfied they leaned on the fact that it was mostly gun play. Same with fallout toning down the mele

[@AVVGaming1]

@@darthsinister9942 that’s true. I don’t think they need to much to change. Basically just copy the system from Skyrim but make it more modern. I actually trust them to get it done though!

[@noone-ld7pt]

I'm honestly optimistic. Bethesda has fucked up in every way imaginable with all their latest projects. They know this is their last chance since if they fuck up ES6 they are officially done, they'll be remembered as a joke and the sad story of a studio that defined a genre and then couldn't keep up with the times. Add on the fact that we've seen some absolutely incredible fantasy games the last few years; GoW, Bg3, Elden Ring, and Wukong has each raised the bar in their own way for what an epic fantasy RPG can and should be now. Basically ES6 has the blueprints, the marketing, the expectations, the money from the Fallout TV series success and Microsoft and the desperation of a studio with it's very name and legacy on the line. As much fun as it's been to dunk on Bethesda the last few years I really hope they succeed with this one. Skyrim raised me as a gamer, and I'd love to see the next level of that truly incredible experience!

[@jacksonjstewart]

Disagree that ES6 needs to have a more complicated combat system

[@AVVGaming1]

Yeah maybe that was a bad example with Elden ring, I’m not saying it has to be complicated but maybe have a bit more depth to it. Would you change anything? Or keep it exactly the same?

[@crillianmarvin6256]

​@@AVVGaming1Elder scrolls has never been about deep combat. At its peak it was about systems that interacted through stats. The issue is, they stripped all that away. So what we are left with is the poor combat with less and less build diversity that's viable.

[@NinjaSanji]

@@AVVGaming1 Needs better combat animations, as a modder the character models are extremely stiff.

[@phillystevesteak6982]

​@@crillianmarvin6256I remember playing dishonored (by bethesda) months after skyrim released and wondering "why the f can't the swordplay be more like this?" There's zero reason why they can't improve in combat. It may not be the most important focus, but golly it would be really nice

[@crillianmarvin6256]

@@phillystevesteak6982 I would rather them bring back a focus on RPG elements since it's an RPG.

[@analogGigabyte]

Unfortunatelly, to people who played older and better Bethesda experiences like Oblivion and Morrowind, Skyrim was a boring watered-down RPG that was fun for it's escapism value but left a lot to be desired on the excitement factor of the story and the quests, much like Fallout 4 felt compared to Fallout 3 or New Vegas. Skyrim managed to make even the dark brotherhood boring, compared to the unforgettable twists and turns that we all fell in love with in Oblivion.

[@AVVGaming1]

We have the exact same taste! I place oblivion and morrowind above Skyrim but still think it’s a great game. Fallout 4 was “decent” but 3 was better and NV my favourite. I think fallout 4 was the first time I stated to see the cracks. Then since then, it’s just gotten a whole lot worse. I think they’re trying to appeal to a wide audience but they must forget that their older titles are what contributed to skyrims success. No morrowind, no oblivion and then no Skyrim. They need to go back to what they were doing. I feel like players want that depth and RPG elements. Right now their games are not doing well.

[@smellykat6481]

Let’s face it, Bethesda is not capable of producing this game without it being an utter flop at this point. They are too greedy and their priorities are in DEI narratives, this game needs a miracle not to be released as an utter meme at this point. They’ll have to drop all their views they have spewed to virtue signal for the past 8 years. Basically call themselves out and we all know how humble greedy corporates are.

[@AVVGaming1]

My personal opinion, games are escapism. They take me away from the really world and let me live in a fantasy world for a while. I don’t want any politics or reminders of the drama of the real world in my games if possible. I just want to play and enjoy the game lol

[@Lucy.mp4]

as someone who played eso hardcore for years, its still very overlooked by the larger TES community. the combat of eso is my favorite of any game ive ever played even in single player dungeons like vMA or Vateshran. the trials were so awe inducing the first times i went through them as a newbie and as i got better the game just became more and more addictive. ive spent roughly 8-9,000 hours on eso and i really recommend giving it an honest play. really try to learn how to play and it becomes so rewarding. you dont have to do loads of dps to do the quests either thats only needed for the vet mode hard content like trials which are super fun if you enjoy teamwork.

[@AVVGaming1]

As a huge eso player, I’ve played since day one. I think I’m level 900 now how about you? It’s an underrated game but I have a question, do you think the majority of the PVE content is too easy?

[@Lucy.mp4]

@@AVVGaming1 im cp like 2000 ish. Its not really relevant to have over 1500 cp due to only having 4 equipable nodes so after 1500 most people stop trying to level more. I do think 90% of pve is too easy, but its sorta meant to be. ZOS is aware most people arent going to learn rotations or fight mechanics and made the base game super easy for people who just want to complete it. That being said theres more than enough hard content for an average 'avid gamer' and then theres still even harder stuff. the hard modes of vet dlc content can be no joke and even a lot of old trials still give groups a hard time. Ofc the top teams make light work of even the hardest content, so for them theres challenges to all the hard modes to make any level of play rewarding. And then when youre tired of pve, theres pvp and its a completely new learning curve that feels vastly different from the pve. So truthfully it doesnt matter how easy the base content is, theres always something or someone that can challenge you to do better. And i think thats why i love it so much.

[@AVVGaming1]

@@Lucy.mp4 the game offers so much for sure! I think it’s the jump in difficulty is crazy! Like from a pve experience to then a trial or something it’s mental lol. You think you’re tough to go to cloud rest lol have you got the latest dlc? If so, is it good?

[@Lucy.mp4]

@@AVVGaming1 i did all the vet trials up till sunspire then i kinda stopped doing pve and focused heavy on pvp for a few years. Ive been on a break recently due to irl stuff but i really wanna come back soon. Might restart on pc since most of my friends moved to pc.

[@DrunkenRhinoceros]

Starfield took 8 years to develop and delivered a graphically great mediocre game. I'd reserve your enthusiasm given what their last 2 games delivered. Fallout 76 took 3 years after release to be a good game. Starfield still needs a lot of care and attention. It's story left me wanting some added compelling reason to trudge thru the galaxy, and the perks were very slow to acquire. Elder Scroll 6, with its LONG development time speaks to how unfocused its content is being integrated. Indie studios create games with minimal staff and paltry budgets.

[@AVVGaming1]

I think the fundamentals in starfield are bad. They made the planets so boring with very limited dungeons that repeated. There was no reward for travelling which made it undesirable to just go out And explore. This was a huge issue as this was Bethesdas strongest ability. (At least in my opinion). Some people say procedural generated content can work, but I just don’t think so. Us gamers have seen it all and we want to be rewarded every time we adventure or at least have a chance to have that exploration be rewarded. It’s what keeps us coming back.

[@Legilimentable]

Before Skyrim came out I stood in the queue at Gamescom for hours to get a glimpse of what was about to be released. The excitement was massive! I hope that Bethesda waits for VR hardware to develop further so that ESVI can be the first really immersive VRRPG.

[@AVVGaming1]

Did you play Skyrim VR? I am assuming so! I played it and it is my favourite vr game ever! It’s so immersive and to experience such a giant open world brilliant game in VR is such a gaming experience! It’s so epic seeing those temples up close and in size. The spiders are horrific though lol

[@KingJ1397-v8q]

All Bethesda needs is one slightly good competition if anyone else even slightly made an open world first person rpg game , I will not play TES 6 . It’s only cause they don’t have competition that’s why they are comfortable with creating mediocre games.

[@AVVGaming1]

I’d say Witcher 3 and Kingdom Come are the closest in terms of the same formula with open world, side quests and other elements. KCD has no creatures though. It is surprising no other game has just come and snapped up that space yet.

[@KingJ1397-v8q]

@@AVVGaming1Exactly such a profitable market left empty for a pathetic studio like Bethesda giving us mediocre copy and pasted games with no effort kept into combat or immersion.

[@Ezekiel_360]

I’ve actually already been waiting, thank you 🙏🏻

[@galaxypanda1288]

It might be pure copeium but I’m hopeful that they won’t drop the ball on ESVI for one reason only. Starfield was such a massive flop of a new IP. Bethesda cannot possibly afford to have a flop of that size on their main IP. It would kill the company as a whole. This is the final straw for Bethesda. If they want to continue as a studio they need to deliver.

[@AVVGaming1]

I absolutely agree. Bethesda were considered one of the best gaming studios. Fallout 4, although not my favourite, still did the job. 76 hurt their reputation but we still thought a lot of them. Then starfield has left a bad mark. And it’s like now or never time. If es6 drops and it’s just starfield mk2, I think the reputation they have built would finally be back to zero. They’d be viewed as historical great but no longer able to deliver.

[@revben]

How is Starfield a flop? People are not smart

[@galaxypanda1288]

@@revben Countless game breaking bugs, Infinite loading screens, lackluster story, hardly anything worth exploring because the planets are so bare bones, ships aren’t really worth customizing because you can fast travel everywhere. No point base building because you can buy everything they give you. Overall just not enough hand crafted content. Bethesda is known for these incredibly detailed fun to explore worlds and quite frankly Starfield lacks that complete freedom and will to explore.

[@BeNiceToday2]

Glad I stumbled upon your channel. Great content. Kudos.

[@AVVGaming1]

@@BeNiceToday2 thank you very much! Glad to have you find it and hope I continue to make videos you enjoy!

[@Tengrinin_Kirbaci]

I bet tes6 will be such a disappointment.

[@TheParagonIsDead]

Why?..

[@msmith1613]

​@@TheParagonIsDeadbecause we have pattern recognition skills

[@TheParagonIsDead]

@@msmith1613 there no pattern. Y’all have 0 understanding on how those games are developed.

[@AVVGaming1]

We can only wait and see…

[@reinhardtreinsch2923]

My wishlist for ES6: -Bring back a system of spellcrafting and with sufficient options so you can start a good destruction mage build -Slightly better Alchemy "One damage health poison for 10 races" is too primitive 😁 -more than one physical damage type e.g. pierce and blunt -sword, axes, hammers and polearms should feel differently -a few good locations where you can build your own estate like FO4 settlements/maybe auto-gather rescoures and your servants/settlers should have more complicted needs Food/Defence/Water is not enough -more diverse story tree with visible consequences

[@AVVGaming1]

Love all these ideas and thank you for sharing! I cannot even debate one of these points but it’s everything I agree with lol I think the more detailed house crafting and settlers etc is a big one. They’ve got the technology now, they should make it like a proper home! Great post!

[@deeglizz]

I like skyrim combat, elden ring does too much.

[@AVVGaming1]

Yes maybe it wasn’t the best example. I didn’t mean to take Elden rings combat exactly, I meant something with more depth. Like more animations, more impact with weapons, just more variety really.

[@kingkhalid1111]

You have no taste 😂

[@wellingtonrodrigues7654]

elden ring combat is a roll simulator, outdated and boring

[@shrekwazowski6299]

I was 2 when Skyrim V released, I’m 14 now and just started it, so much fun so far.

[@AVVGaming1]

Really!? That’s mental! What’s your favourite part of the game so far?

[@unnoticed9988]

Bro we BEEEN waiting

[@AVVGaming1]

We still waiting. I’ll be releasing a video 13 years from now, just the same exact video just changing the dates lol. What can we do though?

[@calvinel8507]

Alright dude u give me hope to keep waiting for tes6 I was about to give up thanks bro

[@AVVGaming1]

Awesome! We will keep the hope together and revisit this comment when it finally arrives. We will either laugh with joy together or cry with disappointment together lol

[@gordyrroy]

I think ES6 will be bought crazily, even more than Skyrim. And I think its gonna be a huge disappointment, too. Bethesda is complacent and unwilling to learn. Edit: 3:11 you talk about Skyrim's combat being too direct, but that's exactly what made Skyrim so popular in the first place. Bethesda's games were streamlined from iteration to iteration. Just compare Morrowind's dialogue box to that of Oblivion. Compare that to Skyrim's, and then compare that to Fallout 4's. It's all an evolution of downgrading and streamlining. This was done on purpose, to make the games more and more accessable to new people who perhaps never played an RPG before. Well, "RPG" more like action adventure nowadays, but you get the point. Their initial strength turned into poison, and Bethesda is unable to see that. 10:56 I disagree. Starfield is lacking beyond repair.Skyrim had much more depth into it than Starfield ever could show. In Skyrim, if you shouted, the guards would come to tell you to quiet down. In Starfield, you can shoot right in front of the guards and they don't care. In Starfield, NPCs have no daily movement cycles anymore. That was dumped down, too. + all the horrible PC generated content that felt soulless. Starfield is bad in all time eras.

[@AVVGaming1]

Yes I’m doing a video on this next. Explaining how Skyrim has survived so long. But I totally agree with you that morrowind was more rpg and deeper than oblivion, which was more in depth than Skyrim etc. then eventually we get today with starfield we’re it’s so simplified it’s now a joke lol. I feel like Skyrim was right where it needs to be, but could use a little more RPG and the things you mentioned. It’s a bit basic but I feel it can add more dialogue options and role playing mechanics from Morrowind etc. I feel like the perfect es game has not yet been made. Morrowind was amazing, but lacked in graphics etc. hopefully es6 is thst but if it continues the same pattern as streamlining we’ve seen then it won’t be good.

[@appleicatpromax7069]

Great video! The intro was very funny

[@AVVGaming1]

Haha thank you very much! Wasn’t sure whether it would come across as funny but comments like this really mean a lot! Hopefully will have more funny videos soon.

[@hafizmazuki2443]

Ohhh...you forgot baldur's gate 3 😥

[@AVVGaming1]

No I did mention it but very very briefly and it probably deserves its own section. It’s the closest thing to Witcher in terms of decision making, actually it’s probably even more deep. Absolute masterpiece of a rpg game. I need to reply it now you’ve mentioned it…lol

[@gitarmats]

Good points. I think the key is that they need to fully realize the mistakes they’ve made and look at all the criticism. If they then are able to really buckle down and do it seriously, I think it can be an amazing game. But it’s certainly looking like it could go the other way now… I just hope they can pull it off.

[@AVVGaming1]

I’ve just done a bunch of videos on this topic and I just don’t think they’re listening :( they seem so set in their ways and seem to be trying to appease a different crowd than the actual crowd of fans they have lol. I wish they’d listen, but I just don’t see it.

[@ruperterskin2117]

Right on. Thanks for sharing.

[@AVVGaming1]

Thanks for the feedback! Glad you enjoyed the video.

[@stevenwilgus8982]

I’m 71: BGS is wasting time by NOT enlisting other studios to assist or even do Skyrim VI. Look at Fallout: New Vegas….18 months only and it was the best overall FO game. Imagine if they had 3 years AND the team? Oh my gawd.

[@AVVGaming1]

Completely agree with this! Fallout New Vegas is one of my favourite games of all time and it only took 18 months. What are Bethesda good at? Building open worlds. But not very good at writing and RPG elements. Companies like Obsidian thrive in that aspect! And it shows with FNV. It’s a wasted opportunity for sure because I look at starfield, look at outerworlds and imagine what would happen if they worked together. It would fix both games problems imo. I actually did a video just on that subject!

[@karloskarlinderstrom6943]

I think the time ES6 is taking is really a cause for concern. I think Skyrim was bigger than Bethesda could handle. They don't know how make a successor. Both technology wise, gameplay wise and story wise. Its like a noob with the piano, trying to learn the hardest song. I think the time its taking is a reflection of bethesda psychologically retreating from a challenge that is too great. The end product will be one, not based love of the elder scrolls, but one based on "it just has to be done".

[@AVVGaming1]

@@karloskarlinderstrom6943 I honestly feel the same. I generally think they’re scared to release it and by that Easter egg in starfield they’re indicating that they know expectations will be so high. I think if it dropped and was reviewed same as starfield, it’d leave Bethesda in a bad place. This is the one IP they have that still stands up and has no weak entries. I understand why they would feel the pressure.

[@regrettablemuffin9186]

I think the problem is that the longer it takes the more fans expect of ES VI. I worry that we’ve already passed the point where fans will be satisfied with ANYTHING that they give us, no matter how good it would be without the context of the wait.

[@AVVGaming1]

I think Bethesda were held in high esteem. After fallout 4 they were at their peak still. Fallout 76 really hurt them, and then starfield was the ultimate let down. Not only did these two games flop, but Bethesda hurt their fan base by taking their money and not respecting their opinion. And the worst thing is that it’s all instead of an ES6. I honestly feel like this next game is their make or break moment. If the next one is a flop I see it being the end of Bethesda as we know it

[@oliverhopkins8074]

This depressing thread Full of dashed dreams Todd has us staring At blank loading screens Life through corona A miserable bore Imagine if we'd had A new world to explore A tapestry of details Vast landscapes and quests With mudcrabs disturbing Our travel and rests But this is Bethesda They came and they went And all Todd delivered Was disappointment No sign of release Buy-outs kindled fears Todd counts his septims As he bathes in fan tears "It comes after starfield, Just hang in there friends" But the silence hangs heavy As another E3 ends The fans turn against them With justified rage A decade has passed And how we have aged So back to our skooma, The stormcloaks, and strife, For we won't visit High Rock Or Hammerfell in this life.

[@AVVGaming1]

Love this comment! Beautiful poetry!

[@TheBestEverEverEver]

I remember my first time beating Skyrim and thinking to myself “I can’t wait for Skyrim 2. I eventually figured out the whole elder scrolls thing but I miss being so ignorant and optimistic.

[@AVVGaming1]

Haha the good old days! It’d be funny if they dropped the es6 and it was called Skyrim 2 you’d be right! lol

[@anonymouslive1832]

I think great combat will come at cost of inability to switch between 1st and 3rd person it would be either first or 3rd person

[@AVVGaming1]

You know what…that’s actually incredibly accurate. Such a good observation. Oh man…which one would they pick if they had to pick one?

[@beholder8467]

Never seen your channel before, but this was very well put together. Too many people want ES6 tomorrow, but do you really want "Star Scrolls", cause that's what you'd get. Skyrim was the first and only game I ever stood in line for at midnight to get my hands on it. They've really got to raise the bar to make me feel like that again.

[@AVVGaming1]

Yes and thank you for the feedback and kind words! I agree that Skyrim, oblivion, Morrowind, these games set the standards. They were the bar, Bethesda games. Now they’ve fallen from that spot, but they have been experimenting with FO76, Starfield and it’s been a tough time for them hearing the feedback. They need time to reflect and capture that magic again they saw in Skyrim. It will take time.

[@kenlen8029]

Confession time: I have owned The Witcher 3 for a very long time but never got around to playing it. I loved Skyrim and often think of playing it again though. Didn't expect too much from Starfield (Todd said he wanted people to play it for years, seemed like mods and dlc were coming later) so wasn't really disappointed. It's funny you mentioned Thy Kingdom Come weapon techniques and level system. I tried to play that game and thought either the controls are garbage or it's just not for me. Trying to use the sword in the intro section was awkward. Will be trying again.

[@AVVGaming1]

Okay so….interesting fact. Those two games Witcher 3 and KCD are two of my favourite games but now it’s my confession time. I bought Witcher 3 in 2015 and retuned it. I bought KCD in 2018 and didn’t enjoy it. Now they’re two of my favourite games ever. I’ve done a video game on KcD which you should check out because that’s me explaining why it sucks at first and why it grows on you. Now as for Witcher 3, it is my favourite game of all time. But..it starts slow! Like the first area you’re in is boring. If you can get past that it gets better and better. My main advice is just to stick with the main story and do not deviate until you make it to the city of Novigrad. And then once you get there and do some of the main quests by that point you’ll be fully into it and you’ll get it! If by that pint you’re not enjoying it then it’s just not for you but I promise you this; it’s worth trying again! You just have to commit to them and say “rihht I’m doing this no matter what”. And I would say play Witcher 3 first.

[@VintageCR]

it's just such a shame that gaming in general has advanced a lot SINCE Skyrim came out yet to this day a lot of people still play Skyrim daily.. that's saying something about today's gaming industry and it's not positive.

[@AVVGaming1]

Yes no one has come in and filled the gap yet. Which, you would think would be a lot of studios goal. I mean, it worked, just try to emulate? But no, it’s still a one of a kind. I do think KcD2 will be outstanding though.

[@Disturbed2595]

The worse thing any game can do is force immersion and real-life mechanics upon the player. Im all for strict immersion and survival mechanics in tes 6 as long as they will be optional. One of the reasons why I love tes so much is that youre not really forced to do anything and can do whatever I want. I shouldnt need to sleep to level up or have to eat to survive but If I wanted the option to do so then all I have to do is press a button and I will have that immersion option

[@AVVGaming1]

@@Disturbed2595 yes I understand that. And they have survival mode as a mod on both fallout 4 and Skyrim so they can just keep that. I was using it more as an example of how much other games are offering. But I do agree that if it was a forced mechanic, long time fans would be upset.

[@imlegend8108]

Kingdom come deliverance. Playing it was… tedious. There was so much around the needs, the survival, the status, micro management. It almost felt less like playing and more like work. The fighting system was also one of the weirdest Ive seen. If TESVI comes even close to that its almost an easy nobuy no matter how long Ive waited. The Skyrim world felt alive. You could kill almost anyone. Interact with almost anything. Everything felt handplaced. Most quests besides the rotating ones felt like made with love. Yeah the game aged. But it still combines the good parts of the newer games and by giving as a bit of all those immersing things it hooks us into it. Thered be no other game I could replay as often as Skyrim despite knowing exactly what will happen when and where and what each dialogue will be about. It doesnt just feel like watching a movie but like youre actually „there“. The mods are also great. The greatest in gaming history. But those are just the topping. I even played thousands of hours of vanilla skyrim on console before I ever had my first PC Theres almost no other game that had me writing my own stories as a kid. After completing a playthrough playing most quests, leveling all the major skills and having the best gear there was still fun, bcs the game almost invites one to imagine own little stories in the head. Why a regular fetch quest is suddenly important or why a casual room has some meaning to it

[@AVVGaming1]

That’s my next video I’ve decided. Sort of looking at Skyrim and figuring out why it never gets old. Every game gets old right? After a certain amount of play throughs it’s done right? Well, for some reason Skyrim bucked that trend. It never felt like that. And there’s never been a Skyrim replacement. I have given examples of other games, but none of those are a replacement. They are in the same type of setting open world RPG, but they don’t quite meet the same criteria.

[@pulpproductions2000]

Bethesda has to outmatch the mod community and be on par with those other games you mentioned. Elder Scrolls 6 is going to be Tod’s Opus, his legacy. They cannot fuck this one up.

[@AVVGaming1]

Nope they really can’t. This is their last chance. Fallout 76 and starfield were bad. It’s now been 10 years since Bethesda released a decent game and that was falloit 4 which in my opinion was not their strongest entry. They still have fans willing to give them a chance…but one more mistake..,especially in the elder scrolls series would be devestating

[@leventeberdock355]

appreciate your bring up KC:Deliverance and combat affected by leveling. Bethesda has proved they can nail this, prim example is Fallout 4. Right now playing as melee build and the perk distribution is glorious and exciting. ES6 will need something far grander than the SPECIAL tree of course.

[@AVVGaming1]

KCD! What a game right? No matter how long it takes to get ES6, we at least know we will get KCD2 at the end of this year and I reckon that’ll be GOTY!

[@monstermarc227]

I was 7 when Morrowsind came out, 11 when Oblivion came out, 16 when Skyrim came out. Now I’ll be over 30 by the time ES6 comes out in 2027.… I really thought Xbox buying Bethesda would change all of this, I was so wrong.

[@AVVGaming1]

Well it’s still very early to determine what input Xbox will have on Bethesda so we will have to see about that. What’s crazy, is that one of the most successful franchises of all time has taken so long to release a sequel instead making other games. It would be like rockstar never making another gta after 5 and making other games completely unrelated. It’s just a weird move really

[@Drew_2152]

@@AVVGaming1One Studio can’t do it all. I think Fallout should be given to Obsidian and Bethesda should just focus on Elder Scrolls.

[@machineunit]

I have next to 0 faith in Bethesda after Starfield. Just don't really see how they could possibly make it even a decent game with their lack of creativity at this point.

[@AVVGaming1]

It has been getting worse as well. Starfield wasn’t the anomaly. Fallout 76 before that was just as bad with story writing and I feel the same about their stories that they added to get that game later on. Really basic writing.

[@Caydos]

We should have been waiting for ES 8 wrt the given time period but it's today's Bethesda we are talking about.

[@AVVGaming1]

Yes we should be at es8. After the success of morrowind, oblivion and then Skyrim, you’d think they’d keep going. Fallout pushed on but after 4, it’s been a different Bethesda. Online games with micro transactions. Space game with procedural generated content. They need to go back to doing what they do best!

[@Toni-Z]

First played skyrim at 13 now im 25 and i still play it from time to time. Hopefully ES6 ist just as good.

[@BretHiggins]

I haven't played and of the Witcher games or Elden Ring, so I'd find it interesting to see if you could play it entirely in first person, and how it would affect Skyrim if it was implemented. Kingdom Come: Deliverance, Cyberpunk 2077 and Red Dead 2 were brilliant. They're all still replayable and I have replayed them. But they have a completely different vibes to Skyrim and each other. There's just something about Skyrim that keeps me coming back, and I love that.

[@AVVGaming1]

Please check out my most recent video “is Skyrim immortal” because I’ve just said the exact same thing you have said! lol it’s something about it that’s so unique it’s not yet been replicated. Those games you mentioned are similar but different if that makes sense. Would love to hear your opinion on my last video really to see if I’m in the right ballpark. They did release a mod for first person in Witcher 3 but I haven’t tried it yet

[@jaredcurtis4506]

I’m new here, super high quality video. You got a future bro 🙌🏻

[@AVVGaming1]

@@jaredcurtis4506 oh thank you so much! I started in March and had never done a video in my life lol. This is my 20th video or so and I’m really glad to hear it was enjoyed! I’m hoping to keep going and getting better as time goes by! Really means a lot thank you! If you ever have any video quests on particular games please let me know.

[@turokrambo5617]

Why do we need to wait? We know whats gonna happen. We got 10years of Bethesda History to know what is going to happen! Its gonna come out. Its gonna have alot of bugs. And its gonna be almost un interesting compared to Skyrim. The only way its gonna be fixed and better is the mod community. Its fine. I bet anyone $100 on whats gonna happen. Prove me wrong when it comes out. Come back to this comment then lmao 🤣

[@AVVGaming1]

Hmmm idk…$100 is a lot and you’ve got all the stats on your side lol. How about we bet a “I told you so!” And you can get all the credit? We will revisit this comment in 2482 and see how it went lol

[@ambushbob5383]

Its going to get here when it gets here the quality is up to Bethesda not us. Given the last couple of games that they made it doesnt seem to matter how long it takes.

[@AVVGaming1]

Yes, you are probably right in that the time spent on a game by Bethesda has not equated to a better product. So far anyway. They resisted a lot of feedback from fans, fighting back, which was an alarming sign, but from what others have been saying, they have said the next game will be 100% handcrafted which is a good sign. Procedural generation as a whole game is never going to hit the mark. At least not for the fanbase they have.

[@ambushbob5383]

​@AVVGaming1 we know they can make locations fun and interesting I think they just need better writers and maybe more than 4 voice actors.

[@AVVGaming1]

@@ambushbob5383 haha those poor voice actors! They really earn their money when working at Bethesda lol

[@Noctursa]

I have been waiting for 11 years Todd!!

[@AVVGaming1]

Todd says you got starfield so you should be happy lol. Jk, but I do feel your frustration at the wait!

[@WolfricLupus]

Thing is, I was 35 when Oblivion came out and I was 40 when Skyrim was released; I would quite like to still be alive when Elder Scrolls VI comes out.