🥊 Election Debate: EFF vs PA on Immigration, Land, Unemployment, Constitution, Corruption

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In the first ever episode of our new SMWX Election Debate series, we are joined by representatives of the Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) and the Patriotic Alliance (PA) who debate around the question; why young people should vote for their parties.
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In this debate, areas of focus include the immigration policies and debate, unemployment, the scrapping of the constitution, corruption & integrity, higher education and so much more.
💡 Special Guest - EFF Member of Parliament and Convenor of the Youth and Students Committee: Nqobile Mhlongo & PA Youth League Deputy Secretary General: Kabelo Pitso
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00:00:00 - Introduction
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00:17:00 - Response Round Two
00:23:32 - Open Round
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@obakengsethaiso8083
@obakengsethaiso8083 3 ай бұрын
EFF is well represented❤❤❤❤dis kabelo guy need to learn from here
@hawkeye3116
@hawkeye3116 3 ай бұрын
Now I understand why JUJU is the kind of person he is, listen to the lady here and the likes of Mbuyiseni Ndlozi, Floyd and many others...they are from the same pot, they sing the same song.
@newdawncrypto5224
@newdawncrypto5224 3 ай бұрын
These debates are what we need in the run up to 2024 elections, thanks Sizwe for Usain Bolting it early in the year. Please run debates all the way through and tackle the Zama-Zama and Spazas owned by Somalis, Bangladesh, Ethiopians or even Pakistans also. These issues are very important for the economic and personal health of our people and country respectively. You should know by now that you have my respect my brother. Thank you.
@stivo9730
@stivo9730 3 ай бұрын
EFF never disappoints! ❤️🖤💚
@manojkumarramdutt9752
@manojkumarramdutt9752 3 ай бұрын
ya dissapoont how when you part of the problem who probably stole as well as large majority Blacks are suffering...bunch of asssssss
@brandoncliffswarts5100
@brandoncliffswarts5100 3 ай бұрын
EFF never disappoints? Wasn't it disappointing to see old ANC rejects being parachuted to top positions in the EFF at the expense of the thousands of capable young people in the EFF?
@molahlehisolomonmoholo5521
@molahlehisolomonmoholo5521 3 ай бұрын
We are witnessing GBV on our screens, this Kabelo guy from PA was parallized even Sizwe couldn't rescue him , Nqobile walked all over him. EFF is the Future!!
@dailyshowtelevisiondstv5585
@dailyshowtelevisiondstv5585 3 ай бұрын
GBV😂😂😂😂😂
@MrPoliteAgain
@MrPoliteAgain 3 ай бұрын
The EFF is well represented. Congratulations to this young woman. The EFF has my vote ❎ ❤🎉
@shanaazcloete8531
@shanaazcloete8531 3 ай бұрын
Foreigners cannot vote in SA in case no one told you.
@mandlenkosicorneliasdlamin7175
@mandlenkosicorneliasdlamin7175 3 ай бұрын
@@shanaazcloete8531 you are a foriegner yourself mos
@levikalombo1630
@levikalombo1630 3 ай бұрын
​@@mandlenkosicorneliasdlamin7175exactly cape Malay slave
@yangankosana1819
@yangankosana1819 3 ай бұрын
​@@shanaazcloete8531ungumnqundu kwwedini😂
@patrickfidrichkibamba3242
@patrickfidrichkibamba3242 12 күн бұрын
What a hatred of Black Foreigners. But themselves, they are also Black. What a shame!
@thabaninjokwe3439
@thabaninjokwe3439 3 ай бұрын
THE EFF BROUGHT SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTOOD THE PARTY STANCE AND MADE SURE SHE DELIVERED. THE PA DIDN'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY.
@shanaazcloete8531
@shanaazcloete8531 3 ай бұрын
Does it matter, SANS are not for open borders, finish and klaar.!!!
@user-kb1tf6di5z
@user-kb1tf6di5z 3 ай бұрын
They always bring smart people
@patrickfidrichkibamba3242
@patrickfidrichkibamba3242 12 күн бұрын
He's a Harper Hammer spy, and he still has a colon mentality.
@That_nigga
@That_nigga 3 ай бұрын
Have been waiting for this debate, EFF show PA who is in charge Let’s separate boys from men and girls from women
@mbonambiphakamani5257
@mbonambiphakamani5257 3 ай бұрын
Nqobile mopping the floor with entire PA at the same time. EFF is the only vehicle which will deliver a meaningful change. 2024 is our 1994.
@spha325
@spha325 3 ай бұрын
Eff is going to start a state owned bank 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 and do to it what Flyd did to VBS 😅
@shanaazcloete8531
@shanaazcloete8531 3 ай бұрын
Only a foreigner will say this.
@mduduzibbembe7242
@mduduzibbembe7242 3 ай бұрын
In your dreams 😅😅😅
@fussatshuta4316
@fussatshuta4316 2 ай бұрын
​@@spha325VBS was destroyed to silence EFF but they failed😂 EFF forever❤✊🏾
@xolanizibi846
@xolanizibi846 3 ай бұрын
Whawu Nqobile i a superb lady and have facts
@justicerampedi1609
@justicerampedi1609 3 ай бұрын
Eff is doing well whn coming 2 talkz or dibate even the action ❤
@user-kb1tf6di5z
@user-kb1tf6di5z 3 ай бұрын
True
@mkmlombi969
@mkmlombi969 3 ай бұрын
EFF uNqobile thank you ❤️❤️✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾
@libumbelufundo6118
@libumbelufundo6118 3 ай бұрын
I love the idea of pushing the youth to pursue technical qualifications and developing specialised industrial zones. They’ll probably increase tariffs on imported products we can produce here. I like the structure of the EFF.
@kagisolekalakala7437
@kagisolekalakala7437 3 ай бұрын
Thank you Sizwe well balanced and good questions . The EFF representative articulated the EFF position quite well. PA should do better in terms of debates and contents …but we also encourage Kabelo and appreciate his view as a black young person
@tsheponcamane2018
@tsheponcamane2018 3 ай бұрын
Indeed, we encourage Kabelo to continue representing his views, but he was baptized with fire... He will improve with time😂 Fighters are very clear
@shanaazcloete8531
@shanaazcloete8531 3 ай бұрын
EFF position whether well articulated or not is largely rejected by South Africans who are the only ones that can vote. Sorry to burst your bubble.
@mixi2090
@mixi2090 2 ай бұрын
EFF should explain decolonised education. 6:10 This is a big issue. How do you decolonise STEM subjects?
@IonizedComa
@IonizedComa 2 ай бұрын
​@mixi2090 apparently science is for colonizers
@tloujonasngoetjana712
@tloujonasngoetjana712 3 ай бұрын
The lady is representing EFF very well, she is knowledgeable and eloquent
@SonnydayASnow
@SonnydayASnow 3 ай бұрын
Uyamazi umcimbi losisi. I respect.
@solomonmakoala3720
@solomonmakoala3720 3 ай бұрын
Big up !!!!!! Eff well represented viva Economic freedom Fighters i smell union building.
@kaizersuze9000
@kaizersuze9000 3 ай бұрын
The average edf supporters don't have SA papers and JJ only 10% strong 😂
@user-pi6fs7ue7r
@user-pi6fs7ue7r 3 ай бұрын
They are just as bad as the anc what have they done nothing just exciting violence using the race card all the time all of the partys are making promises so go and vote make up your own mind
@user-ww9lr8ci4j
@user-ww9lr8ci4j 3 ай бұрын
❤❤EFF has shown times without numbers that it's here to cater us 🎉🎉
@shanaazcloete8531
@shanaazcloete8531 3 ай бұрын
You cannot be a south african. 🤣
@kaizersuze9000
@kaizersuze9000 3 ай бұрын
Dish you with kfc and R120 😅
@janomesteve3129
@janomesteve3129 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@fussatshuta4316
@fussatshuta4316 2 ай бұрын
​@shanaazcloete8531 Mxm you know nothing about South Africa
@gloirebeya5127
@gloirebeya5127 3 ай бұрын
This woman is very brilliant. I'm so proud of you cc.
@shanaazcloete8531
@shanaazcloete8531 3 ай бұрын
She talks rubbish.
@donellechirose6500
@donellechirose6500 3 ай бұрын
If you listen closely that's facts.
@user-xo8fr7er8y
@user-xo8fr7er8y 3 ай бұрын
​@@shanaazcloete8531you spew kak
@TheERNESTUDIO
@TheERNESTUDIO 3 ай бұрын
The EFF has a plan, which is already underway, EFF has my vote.
@spha325
@spha325 3 ай бұрын
You mean opening the borders is a plan 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@solomzimbalo5428
@solomzimbalo5428 3 ай бұрын
​@@spha325they're actually inviting unimaginable problems for us, accepting undocumented foreigners in this country is the EFf's worst posture in can ever take.
@spha325
@spha325 3 ай бұрын
@@solomzimbalo5428 eff and anc are on a same WhatsApp group both useless for this country. I feel sorry for the students who will vote eff and become unemployed after varsity while foreigners are working in their fields.
@silaskhalishwayo
@silaskhalishwayo 3 ай бұрын
​@@spha325 dakiwe wena...eff has never been in power anc is similar to apartheid government.
@jo-d-lo38
@jo-d-lo38 3 ай бұрын
Don't worry, we'll deal with the illegals ourselves. We won't be held ransom by the EFF. African countries don't allow illegal immigration into their countries. Only here in SA.
@valukufanduli6531
@valukufanduli6531 3 ай бұрын
That is Nqobile for EFF superior logic of note
@bonganimbelekana3029
@bonganimbelekana3029 3 ай бұрын
EFF articulating is well researched. Superior logic always prevail ❤ 2024 is our 1994. We are taking the CIC, Julius Malema to the Union Buildings.
@ZulumanNdodana
@ZulumanNdodana 3 ай бұрын
This lady in Red is well informed. the yoing man needs to up his knowledge game
@YT-xk5jl
@YT-xk5jl 3 ай бұрын
She’s EFF
@alignwiththeuniverse1516
@alignwiththeuniverse1516 3 ай бұрын
Hai the EFF took this one, this Nqobile should be trusted with national governance even thr top six she is amazing. Well done Nqobile. PA needed to better prepare
@lm_b5080
@lm_b5080 3 ай бұрын
my concern with the EFF is that malema seems to have very strong dictator personality, even calling for genocide. this lady was excellent - i'm sure they'll get a lot more votes if they have someone like her in charge
@afrimedia5897
@afrimedia5897 3 ай бұрын
​@@lm_b5080you clearly don't know EFF
@fussatshuta4316
@fussatshuta4316 2 ай бұрын
​@@lm_b5080 Then don't vote for.. Go vote for MK or something
@lm_b5080
@lm_b5080 2 ай бұрын
@@fussatshuta4316 you saying he will be a future dictator..?
@fussatshuta4316
@fussatshuta4316 2 ай бұрын
@lm_b5080 Because he is not a dictator..🤷🏾‍♂️ He's just giving racists chest pains that's it!!
@thulanivictorkhoza6062
@thulanivictorkhoza6062 3 ай бұрын
Nqobile💯🔥🔥🔥 Vote EFF
@miehleketokwinika6060
@miehleketokwinika6060 3 ай бұрын
The brother is completely lost, we need him in the EFF, he can make the numbers, i like his confidence though. Thank You Professor Sizwe for this show.🎉
@Sizwe.MpofuWalsh
@Sizwe.MpofuWalsh 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@mhlengingcobo-zb9pu
@mhlengingcobo-zb9pu 3 ай бұрын
Eff is well represented 🎉 i will vote eff
@jacklenge531
@jacklenge531 3 ай бұрын
My brother please vote with yr father it a best party ever we ll enjoy our economic freedom in our life time
@profdumisanindlovu-fl3wn
@profdumisanindlovu-fl3wn 3 ай бұрын
Well done young lady talk sense , I agree with your idea EFF
@ForceOfTheSouth
@ForceOfTheSouth 3 ай бұрын
Fighter Nqobile Mhlongo represented us well. The PA young fellow still needs political Education and presentation skill. He is not convincing. Big Ups To Nqobile Fighter Nqobile Mhlongo 💪
@Dannymcflirt
@Dannymcflirt 3 ай бұрын
Thatha eff thatha! Very good points from the sister in Red
@user-kb1tf6di5z
@user-kb1tf6di5z 3 ай бұрын
Thatha EFF ❤❤
@JoMbangasta
@JoMbangasta 3 ай бұрын
Well done Commissar Nqobile 🙌🏾❤️🖤, you represented us well‼️
@eskaay6178
@eskaay6178 3 ай бұрын
It was a easy one for the EFF, Well informed leader. We need a debate between the EFF and th DA
@shuduramaite208
@shuduramaite208 3 ай бұрын
One thing about the EFF is that they will never disappoint when it comes to public representatives either for interviews or debates. Always on point. Their political education is on another level.
@noriamamabolo1488
@noriamamabolo1488 3 ай бұрын
PA must do their research, home work properly.
@shanaazcloete8531
@shanaazcloete8531 3 ай бұрын
PA was spot on where south Africans are concerned. we want that big wall.
@kgomotsomfisa7038
@kgomotsomfisa7038 3 ай бұрын
​@@shanaazcloete8531then what will happen after Building wall? You still be landless, you'll still not own the banks, mines, means of production, etc.
@tebogoleballo9599
@tebogoleballo9599 3 ай бұрын
Well articulated Nqobi if is there anything to vote EFF it should be thier stance of free quality education and a loving and caring parents should join thier children in voting EFF❤
@nkosingiphiledlamini5278
@nkosingiphiledlamini5278 3 ай бұрын
EFF before I can even watch
@solomonmakoala3720
@solomonmakoala3720 3 ай бұрын
Nqobile is eating these young PA member for lunch. She is leading these debate. The young man can't articulate the PAs policies properly that is if they have any
@jackkiewiet3707
@jackkiewiet3707 3 ай бұрын
Watching from Namibia 🇳🇦....the lady clearly out debate this young man.💯
@material_dondada
@material_dondada 3 ай бұрын
Obviously your ears and expectations are not for South Africa, they are for you as a foreigner. She was killed early
@stephneesnyders8821
@stephneesnyders8821 3 ай бұрын
actually she did not, EFF is corrpt and subscripe to policies that failed in Venezuella. EFF is corrupt and stealling from the elderly. Malema enriched himself by a mafia that is cirrupt. Minimum wage was created by this red barrets that belong to the frenchman. EFF is not selfmade like Gayton unlike VBS criminals. EFF is foreigners supporters and funding their schoolfees
@Jamie-cz2xu
@Jamie-cz2xu 3 ай бұрын
Now lets have Cyril and John and Julius and Nhlamulo. And lets get SABC involved and broadcast it on radio and all the channels. Lets make it official. A proper debate for the citizens with a translator for english zulu and xhosa so everyone voting can understand. And play it a few times a month so as many people who need to hear it can hear it.
@providetriggersforevolutio3748
@providetriggersforevolutio3748 3 ай бұрын
Superb idea!
@internsphone
@internsphone 3 ай бұрын
I love it
@martinmgidi2790
@martinmgidi2790 3 ай бұрын
😂Cyril won't show up.
@LuyoloMkhosi-tf6hu
@LuyoloMkhosi-tf6hu 3 ай бұрын
Cyril is not allowed to be on debates.. Oppenheimers will never allow to happen..
@molemorobie
@molemorobie 3 ай бұрын
Which one is Nhlamulo?
@roygilbert7294
@roygilbert7294 3 ай бұрын
Am telling you guys Eff has 1000% better plan for SA youths and women.....if you don't give eff a chance then don't blame no-one.....
@thabangtladi8057
@thabangtladi8057 3 ай бұрын
better plan for African nations to remain in SA for good and not go back to their own hopeless zoo called countries and fix them
@User47HD
@User47HD 3 ай бұрын
I don't know, they seem to have communist traits and nothing good comes from communism.
@shanaazcloete8531
@shanaazcloete8531 3 ай бұрын
ANC is bad enough, to suggest EFF is suicide. Nah, we South Africans are wiser than you think, we can detect pie in the sky plans .
@levikalombo1630
@levikalombo1630 3 ай бұрын
​@@thabangtladi8057so it's okay for whites and Indians to stay for good hey.😂😂
@enockmalopemaila7298
@enockmalopemaila7298 3 ай бұрын
PA promise us nothing solid in building, transforming our country. EFF is Future to better life❤💚🖤
@multiartsalliance7791
@multiartsalliance7791 3 ай бұрын
EFF sound to have facts and clear goals.
@shanaazcloete8531
@shanaazcloete8531 3 ай бұрын
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@user-kb1tf6di5z
@user-kb1tf6di5z 3 ай бұрын
That's why i will vote for them ❤❤
@michaelsenior5048
@michaelsenior5048 Ай бұрын
The EFF is like a college of higher learning for every African, speaking about values and attitudes.
@hanyanahanyana8942
@hanyanahanyana8942 3 ай бұрын
This lady is abuse this boy In future bring the pA President verses this smart lady salute madamq
@ntsikeleloklaas3610
@ntsikeleloklaas3610 3 ай бұрын
Superior logic always win, the "Mbokodo" represented us very well forward EFF forward 🤝
@user-mt3fm9hq9l
@user-mt3fm9hq9l 3 ай бұрын
EFF won❤
@user-kb1tf6di5z
@user-kb1tf6di5z 3 ай бұрын
That's obvious
@misterkaren
@misterkaren 3 ай бұрын
The military service thing is bat shit insane 😂
@jaykin6970
@jaykin6970 3 ай бұрын
Education is offered at various levels; skills training and academic - imagine such huge responsibility for the military. Clearly they don't know what they are talking about and it simply would be chaotic, let alone impractical.
@shanaazcloete8531
@shanaazcloete8531 3 ай бұрын
What is even more insane is open borders for a country that has the highest unemployment rate in the world. 🤣🤣🤣 Anyway EFF will never win an election.
@TopGooner-yr9tc
@TopGooner-yr9tc 3 ай бұрын
Bruv thought was only one😂, like Korea? Like what's my guy on about
@tela6589
@tela6589 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@mankgasejostar3107
@mankgasejostar3107 3 ай бұрын
What did u expect from the Bandit⁉️🤦‍♂️ The guy has no respect for constitution.
@refilweportiasefotlhelo82
@refilweportiasefotlhelo82 3 ай бұрын
Eff has my vote ❤
@Sthabi_Alonzo
@Sthabi_Alonzo 3 ай бұрын
Sizwe, you are a legend in the making!! This was brilliant.
@Sizwe.MpofuWalsh
@Sizwe.MpofuWalsh 3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@MpenduloMpesh-sf7ww
@MpenduloMpesh-sf7ww 3 ай бұрын
My vote go to EFF ❤❤
@user-ih2zc3yh9w
@user-ih2zc3yh9w 3 ай бұрын
EFF you have my vote
@patrickthorp3816
@patrickthorp3816 3 ай бұрын
Then you need an education ...
@janomesteve3129
@janomesteve3129 3 ай бұрын
You are part of the foreigners
@vaeterua
@vaeterua 24 күн бұрын
​@@patrickthorp3816You should comeup factual and justifying sentiment not ridiculous accusations!!What part is illiterate in this discourses ??
@afrimedia5897
@afrimedia5897 3 ай бұрын
I'm gonna vote EFF🤞 they won my heart
@user-kb1tf6di5z
@user-kb1tf6di5z 3 ай бұрын
Do not say I say we cause we cause am going to vote for EFF
@njabulodihlohonolo-ps6vk
@njabulodihlohonolo-ps6vk 3 ай бұрын
I love this❤ this should be done more often
@Sizwe.MpofuWalsh
@Sizwe.MpofuWalsh 3 ай бұрын
Stay tuned! 😄
@martinmgidi2790
@martinmgidi2790 3 ай бұрын
My vote is with the EFF.
@tsietsijohannes5832
@tsietsijohannes5832 3 ай бұрын
Amapandidi gave this guy chest pains
@TshepangMagudulela
@TshepangMagudulela 3 ай бұрын
This is poor for the PA The points they are banking on is the issue of foriengers and the point of the of how great Gayton is. This party is limited to those two things. If you are a voter which is a critical thinker you'd know that South Africa is to complex to vote for based on a single person and one issue.
@siyabongamazibuko7368
@siyabongamazibuko7368 3 ай бұрын
We need the winner of this round to face the winner of the next round, who's next. EFF vs Whoever (one by one)
@jaykin6970
@jaykin6970 3 ай бұрын
😂❤
@mmelimkhungo5860
@mmelimkhungo5860 3 ай бұрын
😂😅😅😂❤!!!​@@jaykin6970
@JoMbangasta
@JoMbangasta 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@petrusmathe5531
@petrusmathe5531 3 ай бұрын
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 U killed me
@lesegombendana6002
@lesegombendana6002 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@SeoFam01
@SeoFam01 3 ай бұрын
I don’t know how Sizwe could keep a straight face when that PA chap was speaking 😂. “We know how to remove the red tape”. Jah neh
@khonzani1870
@khonzani1870 3 ай бұрын
PA can’t stand EFF, this was one way traffic.
@tshwareloalbertmatlala1388
@tshwareloalbertmatlala1388 3 ай бұрын
one way traffic lool
@shxtsngigshorts
@shxtsngigshorts 3 ай бұрын
😂😂
@jaykin6970
@jaykin6970 3 ай бұрын
😁😁😁😁😁
@fanamanyana5952
@fanamanyana5952 3 ай бұрын
On point, one way traffic 😂
@dailyshowtelevisiondstv5585
@dailyshowtelevisiondstv5585 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@tshwareloalbertmatlala1388
@tshwareloalbertmatlala1388 3 ай бұрын
I am very amazed by the stunt where he says they want to attract foreign investment mean while they are against everything foreign
@lindilelubabalozulu8476
@lindilelubabalozulu8476 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 no superior logic there
@YT-xk5jl
@YT-xk5jl 3 ай бұрын
Foreign = African when it suits them and the same foreign = Europeans and North Americans when it suits them. So to them “foreign” has different meanings depending on the context.
@rontosmorake4447
@rontosmorake4447 3 ай бұрын
please bring the best of the best the lady of EFF needs a Match, we need people who know their story, this PA guy keeps on repeating things we need a robust debate. Blow by blow
@tebogojoychoane2779
@tebogojoychoane2779 3 ай бұрын
Awa Banna, where did you get I'm speechless? This guy was funny, I'm glad my vote goes to the EFF. EFF never disappoints...
@ronaldwisemankekane2666
@ronaldwisemankekane2666 3 ай бұрын
Political education is very important, this PA guy should go back n educate himself,,, shout out to EFF lady very clear❤❤
@thabo1253
@thabo1253 3 ай бұрын
its true
@patrickfidrichkibamba3242
@patrickfidrichkibamba3242 12 күн бұрын
He's a Harper Hammer spy, and he still has a colon mentality.
@khwezimemela1730
@khwezimemela1730 Ай бұрын
Fighter Nqobile is on point like an arrow. Rise EFF ✊
@soldierlebea965
@soldierlebea965 3 ай бұрын
All 15 members of my family we are going to vote for EFF,2024 is our 1994
@user-kb1tf6di5z
@user-kb1tf6di5z 3 ай бұрын
Even my family
@vona5251
@vona5251 12 күн бұрын
How will you know that they voted eff
@patrickfidrichkibamba3242
@patrickfidrichkibamba3242 12 күн бұрын
✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾
@fin2-em2mf
@fin2-em2mf 3 ай бұрын
Articulation is very important in politics....EFF wins this debate...
@siyabongamazibuko7368
@siyabongamazibuko7368 3 ай бұрын
So far 10min in , EFF is clear. EFF 1 : PA 0
@shanaazcloete8531
@shanaazcloete8531 3 ай бұрын
You would have that view if you a foreigner.
@CraigHetheringsting
@CraigHetheringsting 3 ай бұрын
After 50 mins the PA guy just seems even less convincing. His closing comment was "im speechless", lol fucking hell
@fussatshuta4316
@fussatshuta4316 2 ай бұрын
I'm going to vote for EFF❤👌🏾
@yangazulu7466
@yangazulu7466 3 ай бұрын
Thank u Sizwe nyana kaBhuti Dali wow uyatshisa kengoku, Nqobile well done Sisi sizofunda ngenkani.
@matlou198
@matlou198 3 ай бұрын
Eff my home eff my life viva cc Nqobile I'm not regret joining eff
@alimahommed7639
@alimahommed7639 2 ай бұрын
The moment eff member talks, they attracts more voters, they talk sense. I love eff
@BBSF88
@BBSF88 3 ай бұрын
5:55 I can tell you right now, our EFF rep Nqobile has closed this debate before it even began! And just like I thought, they are talking about conscription. PA is backwards. 7:30
@grantthabo5337
@grantthabo5337 3 ай бұрын
I'm 100% convinced that there's no any other political partie that can stand the EFF in any debate or public participation of any sort EFF IS THE ONLY ANSWER TO SOUTH AFRICA 🇿🇦 2024 IS OUR 1994.
@patrickthorp3816
@patrickthorp3816 3 ай бұрын
Voters of EFF= People who haven't read a history book. Try and find ONE example in history where policies similar to their succeed in developing a modern thriving economy and society. Answer: not one. All you fools are voting for a Venezuela, Zimbabwe vol 2.0.
@levikalombo1630
@levikalombo1630 3 ай бұрын
​@@patrickthorp3816they are under sanctions stupid.
@Thabang-st4bw
@Thabang-st4bw 3 ай бұрын
@@patrickthorp3816 china, scandinavian and nordic countries. You consume a lot of right wing propaganda I see. What history books have you read. You do know there are failed states that are capitalist right? Zim has been under sanctions Venezuela has been under sanctions
@grantthabo5337
@grantthabo5337 3 ай бұрын
@patrickthorp3816 there's no need for u to call others fools you believe in what you believe in and you vote for your favorite political party that's it no need for you to be petty and call others fools because you are now just displaying the highest level of lack of engagement on issues, this is not about racism or who is more superior than the other, if you like DA , PA it's your democratic choice but just don't insult those who share a different view from yours .
@digital-artz
@digital-artz 3 ай бұрын
@@grantthabo5337 my fighter, don’t even waste your breathe arguing with the Zionists.. we have a plan for them when we win the election… let’s vote fir eff my fighter
@khonzani1870
@khonzani1870 3 ай бұрын
One thing about EFF it is full of brilliant young people, lots of thinking and grinding has been done. One feels safe with most of these young people, Ofcoz there’s is still room for error and for them to learn through experience
@shanaazcloete8531
@shanaazcloete8531 3 ай бұрын
EFF is full of pie in the sky, that's why they cannot even win municipalities, they have to ride on getting positions via trade - offs with the ANC. PA has won a municipality with its less than 1% vote. 🤣🤣🤣
@ZolaMhlabane-ss8bq
@ZolaMhlabane-ss8bq 3 ай бұрын
100% correct.
@sb456
@sb456 3 ай бұрын
The PA dude said alot of things and I didn’t even hear a single word. That eff lady was clear and pure
@siphiwembiyela3886
@siphiwembiyela3886 3 ай бұрын
Eff are good debaters and their mandate is clear but when it comes to their foreign policy on immigration that will never find solace with south africans. And it's a fallacy that foreigners don't take jobs because people on the ground with low skills they see that what used to be their employ is now occupied by foreigners hence the private sector and the liberals whom are wmc advocate for open border policy. Malema on JJ tabane show said that he'll never fight with a Zimbabwean for a security job and by that statement he conceded that foreigners are employed over SA's.
@Happy_HourZA
@Happy_HourZA 3 ай бұрын
I feel he is just ahead of Most people when it comes to this matter, i honestly don't think he is wrong for it and it will soon make sense sooner than later ... The issue of foreign policy is a long story and given the right platform i would break it down for you ... But i get wher he is coming from and I agree with him to a certain degree, Not to say that we don't have an immigration problem here but it's more internal than anything and closing the borders is definitely not a solution.
@jaykin6970
@jaykin6970 3 ай бұрын
Besides, people who are shortsighted won't understand the long term objective of this point, people, yes, are traumatized by level of crimes of which 'foreign Africans' finds themselves implicated in, however dealing with them in this manner is like treating the symptoms rather and that does not guarantee a solution. In fact, when we fight one another as neighbours, we give an easy opportunity for an intruder to do as he pleases because we won't be looking for each other!!!
@Qotha
@Qotha 3 ай бұрын
@@Happy_HourZA he is wrong in terms of timing. No matter how good the idea may be, but Bad timing makes the whole idea bad. You can not allow the influx of poor immigrants in a country of high level of unemployment such as South Africa.
@YT-xk5jl
@YT-xk5jl 3 ай бұрын
The EFF is very clear. The aim is to create jobs and to get people to create jobs. Why don’t the PA go after the employers? Can’t you see that EFFs focus is on these very employers? The ones who pay Zimbabweans chips or next to nothing when they hire them. What is so hard to understand about that? This exploitation starts with the exploiters who are doing the hiring and are often supported and sustained by “white monopoly capital”. Why don’t South Africans want to aim higher than a common security guard?
@Qotha
@Qotha 3 ай бұрын
@@YT-xk5jl the aim is to create jobs for who, for immigrants?Saying South Africans should aim higher than security jobs is just a rhetoric none practical. Not everyone will be a doctor or engeneer. Some are graduates but work as security because that is the only job available at the moment. Must they sit and starve while a security job is available because they want fency jobs that are unavailable.
@nthabit1177
@nthabit1177 3 ай бұрын
Is the PA saying that EVERY young person will be OBLIGATED to military service after high school? EVERY? Without option? That is highly a limitation of our right to self-determination. Their policy is itself unconstitutional.
@realnews8075
@realnews8075 3 ай бұрын
You are typing like a Dom kop....we all know not everyone is going to varsity or will get a job...but we know they will have an option which is guaranteed work and skills training in the sa military you fom kop
@mondentleko8735
@mondentleko8735 3 ай бұрын
Look at the benefits also not only the sacrifice to serve in the military
@thabisokekana3704
@thabisokekana3704 3 ай бұрын
You want the freedom to galavant and be unruly ?
@nthabit1177
@nthabit1177 3 ай бұрын
@@mondentleko8735 Maybe let's discuss that because it was my initial question, what are the benefits? What will make a person more employable in corporate SA as a result of a year's service in military?
@nthabit1177
@nthabit1177 3 ай бұрын
@@thabisokekana3704 maybe you sir. I want the freedom to determine how I establish myself and gain skill relevant to my objectives. I also want to the freedom of choice.
@jacklenge531
@jacklenge531 3 ай бұрын
Eow EFF is the best
@anathimduduma6534
@anathimduduma6534 3 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see DA and ANC debate
@user-ub8jp6md8u
@user-ub8jp6md8u 3 ай бұрын
This PA guy is in mature with his analysis, EFF is the future of South Africa either people like it or not
@WILLIAMCHALAKA
@WILLIAMCHALAKA 3 ай бұрын
I GO FOR PA
@siyabongamazibuko7368
@siyabongamazibuko7368 3 ай бұрын
Lol our leader is cleaning you up yong 27:44
@shanaazcloete8531
@shanaazcloete8531 3 ай бұрын
@@siyabongamazibuko7368 Your leader speaks for foreigners, Kabelo speaks for South Africans and as we the only ones that can vote Kabelo wins.
@mthembenihlopheericnarson2045
@mthembenihlopheericnarson2045 3 ай бұрын
Fool​@@shanaazcloete8531
@roskydk7174
@roskydk7174 3 ай бұрын
PA only talks foreigners. Nothing else. Running the state is more than closing borders.
@ronaldmamaru4242
@ronaldmamaru4242 3 ай бұрын
The EFF commizar have clear point ❤❤
@bernicesmith3093
@bernicesmith3093 2 ай бұрын
Salute Kabelo you have nailed it. You have represented the Patriotic Alliance very well ✊️💚💚💚💚💚💚💚🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@marakamabaso7450
@marakamabaso7450 3 ай бұрын
The intellectual level is unmatched
@windywindy221
@windywindy221 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂 'we are going to bring God in school'
@shanaazcloete8531
@shanaazcloete8531 3 ай бұрын
More realistic than EFF nonsense. Free this, free that as if money grows on trees. EFF supporters are largely confused about EFF land plans, because one day its this and another day its that. You foreigners can be convinced by EFF nonsense but we not.
@levikalombo1630
@levikalombo1630 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I'm dead. This township boy is crazy.
@khanyisafikilexayiya1369
@khanyisafikilexayiya1369 3 ай бұрын
I'm an EFF Member but I do find the foreign policy out of touch with what South Africans are experiencing. We live in a country where basically all low skill jobs have been dominated by foreigners. Probably 2.4Million jobs that would be supporting poor black households are going to legal but mostly illegal foreigners (let's be real) who don't pay tax and contribute to our struggling economy.
@MrPoliteAgain
@MrPoliteAgain 3 ай бұрын
What about decolonisation you don't understand? You need to read to understand and you'll know why it's so important that we advocate for a boarder-less africa. This is in full motion, countries in Africa are now pushing for boarders to be scrapped in Africa. The EFF has a giraffe-view, people will understand later.
@bonginkosintuli4560
@bonginkosintuli4560 3 ай бұрын
there are 2.5 million documented foreigners and about 5 million undocumented foreigners. So about 7.5 million jobs could have helped our poor black households...
@langashongwe4532
@langashongwe4532 3 ай бұрын
​@@MrPoliteAgain argh man.. we can unite without burdening othe ppls countries
@petrusmathe5531
@petrusmathe5531 3 ай бұрын
The problem with us black people, we hate each other that alone says a lot about us, how many illegal white immigrants in SA? How many positions are occupied by them? This people are earning a lot here in SA u guys are not saying anything because they are whites!! U blame a black men that could be one of your relatives for merely earning less than R3000. Shame on us black African people
@siphiwembiyela3886
@siphiwembiyela3886 3 ай бұрын
@@MrPoliteAgain until the whole continent of afrika has strong economies bordeless afrika will only burden those few countries that are economically sound hence for now it's a big no.
@XolaniWana
@XolaniWana 3 ай бұрын
The PA is 10 years old but has never been in an election conference to test their democracy. EFF elects its leaders at conferences and the policies and resolution of the party are made by the members through conferences, they are not forced/imposed by self appointed "leaders".
@innocentc.3521
@innocentc.3521 3 ай бұрын
"I only debate my equals, all others I teach," John Henrik Clarke. Viva EFF!!
@afro_giraffe
@afro_giraffe 3 ай бұрын
I would love to listen to a debate between two parties from the same side of the political spectrum. Maybe two parties that are in the multiple party charter.
@simaniwa1021
@simaniwa1021 3 ай бұрын
Siz'we need more of these debates, Well Done Bro, I enjoyed this.
@Sizwe.MpofuWalsh
@Sizwe.MpofuWalsh 3 ай бұрын
Coming soon…🔥
@RufusMafa
@RufusMafa 3 ай бұрын
Sizwe you are doing a great job boy. May the lord our saviour protect you and your family.
@CalvinMaluleke-ry3rf
@CalvinMaluleke-ry3rf 3 ай бұрын
Only EFF
@zanelemathebula6453
@zanelemathebula6453 3 ай бұрын
Although this view of the youth and for the youth is appreciated, the debate was very uninspiring. I don't feel like the guys were well prepared and actually articulated the solutions they believe in well, more so the representative from the PA. Nonetheless, I am looking forward to the next round of engagements.
@oleratomokoka7955
@oleratomokoka7955 3 ай бұрын
I think this interview is a great representation of the political landscape of South Africa. More times than not, speakers just throw keywords with no background knowledge being explained or explored. They also spoke really quickly. I don't know if that was due to the time constraints or because they had to go through all their keywords. I will give them the benefit of the doubt. Many comments here celebrate the EFF speaker for putting a "coherent" argument. But in my opinion, it is merely a win by default. The other guy barely showed up. Many holes showed up in both their arguments, as well as a clear lack of depth. To conclude, the idea is great. The future speakers should however, try to present themselves better. One recommendation is to include viewer opinions in the debate, via live chat.
@zanelemathebula6453
@zanelemathebula6453 3 ай бұрын
@@oleratomokoka7955 You've summed it up very nicely.
@zamokuhlemasondo
@zamokuhlemasondo 3 ай бұрын
We are not poor just poorly managed, great point from the DSG of the Patriotic Alliance Youth League #Abahambe
@FlorenceSeptember
@FlorenceSeptember 3 ай бұрын
So excited can't wait!!!!
@UNITEDAFRICANS-jm6rp
@UNITEDAFRICANS-jm6rp 3 ай бұрын
VIVA VIA EFF VIVA VIVA!!!! VIVA HON.. MALEMA FOR PRESIDENT VIVA VIVA.
@lwandotame6325
@lwandotame6325 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant idea to give the young a chance to voice their ideas and show their leadership skills
@stanfordmolokomme9219
@stanfordmolokomme9219 Ай бұрын
EFF strategy and focus is clear and to the point no flip flopping. Land and jobs in our lifetime and stop load shedding ❤
@KazieD
@KazieD 3 ай бұрын
Sizwe, you should've brought ActionSA youth candidate mntase. What does the EFF candidate mean that there are no Jobs in SA when the hotels, Petrol stations, Restaurants are packed with foreigners? If there were no jobs or opportunities, foreign nationals would not be flocking to South Africa. Come to Cape Town and you will see what I mean.
@penekedirero4636
@penekedirero4636 3 ай бұрын
She hasn't been to Cape Town. She bilieves what she's being fed mlby Malema. While at it he should also invite Rise Mzansi which I think he's working at it.
@MrLechesa
@MrLechesa 3 ай бұрын
If there were jobs the unemployment rate wouldn't be as high as it is now would it? African Foreign Nationals only make up less than 3% of the South African population (go read the 2022 census report in detail). The narrative that they are taking jobs is not supported by science because even if they were to be deported, we will still sit with an extremely high unemployment rate. There's just over 1million Zimbabweans in the entire SA. We have over 14million Unemployed South African Youth.
@KazieD
@KazieD 3 ай бұрын
@@MrLechesa I am referring to Cape Town where I am situated, I cant speak for the rest of the country. At this point in time, corporates should not even be considering employing foreigners for low skilled work but rather reserve those for South Africans. I live in Cape Town so this is a lived experience and not something on paper I read somewhere.
@sanelemjwara7771
@sanelemjwara7771 3 ай бұрын
​@@MrLechesayou are talking absolute crap. Only 1 million Zimbabweans?😂😂😂
@MrLechesa
@MrLechesa 3 ай бұрын
@@sanelemjwara7771 Yep!! You can read it up for yourself. That's precisely what a census is for remember? Or you've counted them yourself?
@mpilompanza9101
@mpilompanza9101 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for bringing these debates. Lots of questions were answered. I just wish that all parties can join so that we can make better decisions when voting
@Sizwe.MpofuWalsh
@Sizwe.MpofuWalsh 3 ай бұрын
Stay tuned! 😁
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