Election Fever - Rise of Hitler 08, August 1930

[@WorldWarTwo]

Imagine you find yourself in Germany in August 1930, which pitch convinced you?

[@LizzyMeyer-g1d]

Is this series being moved to Thursday until the tank battle has been covered?

[@SoraTheHappyEmo]

Without the benefit of hindsight... honestly, it seems like a lot of noise and I would probably tune out. As awful as that is to admit.

[@freetolook3727]

Must have been a fun time with all those parties going on! 😂

[@WOLF36554]

SPD

[@foobar9220]

Probably some "people's party"? There are so many of them...

[@chase135]

Whether 1930, 1941-45, or 1950 we just can’t escape Douglas MacArthur 😂

[@ComputingTheSoul]

It was a missed opportunity to say "Whoever cast the first stein"

[@whysoserious8666]

You’d might think that the steins being recently full may hav had an impact of the fight?

[@HS-su3cf]

@@whysoserious8666 I doubt anyone would throw a full stein.

[@Justanotherconsumer]

@@whysoserious8666half full or half empty?

[@spartacus-olsson]

@@ComputingTheSoul indeed, indeed…

[@whysoserious8666]

If I thought my stein get full again, I’d never throw it, even at Nazis (well at least before 1933). ☺️

[@kemarisite]

14:11 "campaigns on the same platform that it has since 1920", that reminds me of William Jennings Bryan in the US, running for president in 1896, 1900, and 1908 with little change in his platform.

[@roderickcampbell2105]

Brilliant. The world would be a much poorer place without Indy, Spartacus and company. Wit and wisdom. My admiration to all involved.

[@ronaldfinkelstein6335]

A reference to "Monty Python's Life of Brian". Nice! 👍👍😂😅

[@Puckoon2002]

Well he is a very naughty boy.

[@uristgames2470]

SPLITTERS!

[@archstanton6102]

Aqueduct

[@duncancurtis5108]

Achtung brown skivvys😅😅

[@cheften2mk]

How huge is the Timeghost collection of vintage phones at this point?

[@camilleschenkenberg6800]

Follow-up question, what is their favourite phone

[@DruiceBox]

They have previously said access would normally cost thousands of dollars a month but they get a reasonable deal

[@spartacus-olsson]

@@DruiceBox that’s archive… our phones Astrid gets on eBay and they’re reasonably priced.

[@spartacus-olsson]

@@camilleschenkenberg6800 I can only speak for myself… the Ericofon (Korean War).

[@spartacus-olsson]

@@cheften2mk it’s sizable… 😉

[@grantpenton1850]

Love the reference to 'The Life of Brian'! Given the absurd proliferation of German political parties, it's quite appropriate!

[@BurntoutHorizons]

The People's People Party of People's Parties of Parties of People, for People. I think I've got it 😅😅

[@anonUK]

Where's the Popular Front?

[@Lonovavir]

That's too many parties for anyone's liver.

[@Kubinda12345]

@@anonUK The idea of Popular Front appeared only after Hitler's rise to power in mid 1930s. And it was only a coalition, not a new party.

[@davidwright7193]

@@Kubinda12345 I assumed he meant the splitters in the Judean Popular Front.

[@dontfeedjellyfish6068]

I love these hidden Easter Eggs in the "newspapers", like the Rammstein refrain in 6:45 😂😂

[@MsZeeZed]

1930s Germans had more political parties than American breakfast cereals.

[@generaltom6850]

These are just the major national parties. There were many regional and smaller parties that appealed to smaller portions of the population.

[@munkeefinkelbeen5395]

Don't think we need this many, but we could benefit from having a few more political parties in the US, at least more than our problematic duopoly

[@petetirp9776]

The 1967 film The Producers is one of the best films ever. The first 90 seconds of this terrific history content would fit in with it. That's a huge compliment to you.

[@danieldoyle8646]

A great film, “it’s springtime for Hitler…”

[@HootOwl513]

Mel Brooks is a genius

[@AnimeOtaku2]

Life of Brian!

[@tsbjelland]

SPLITTERS!

[@kemarisite]

I thought we were the Popular Front?

[@ChrisCrossClash]

Don't forget Biggus Dickus

[@kemarisite]

@ChrisCrossClash if we're going to get into other Life of Brian sketches, we have to remember "Romanes eunt domus!"

[@ibex485]

Nee! [Oops, wrong film.]

[@cmdrflake]

The disaster is becoming increasingly serious while Germany 🇩🇪 struggles with the aftermath of the devastating onset of the depression. Political leaders are increasingly radicalized and violent. The NSDAP desires a single party government with universal power over the country. The elections are unable to resolve anything while the NSDAP waits for their opportunity to take power!

[@Lonovavir]

Obligatory Don't blame me for the 33 election, I voted Zentrum comment. Seriously, thank you for this entire video series Indie and company.

[@davidwright7193]

The crypto fascists of Zentrum voted for the enabling act so that is no get out.

[@georgemetcalf8763]

Hurray for references to Monty Python!

[@alanhilder1883]

It is written that when two or more gather together, they shall perform the parrot sketch. ( It is an ex parrot, it has ceased to be. )

[@peterg76yt]

The People's Front of Judea has alwas been problematic for translators.

[@jwinter7480]

Just joined the timeghost army! What you are all doing is so very important. I cant thank you all enough for what you are providing present and future generations with.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Welcome aboard, thanks for joining us!

[@TristenDavis-z8d]

@WorldWarTwo will y'all make day by day posts for the Korean War channel?

[@douglasharley2440]

sparty's haircut looking _fresh af!_ 👍

[@rrice1705]

Good grief, how does a German in the late 1920s / early 1930s even choose a party? Roll a d20?

[@live_free_or_perish]

The guy on the left sounds like he could have been an announcer in the 1940s

[@jh2309]

Great programming as always. Was wondering if you had plans to cover the war crime trials now that the war is over?

[@spartacus-olsson]

We do indeed

[@TheRiskyBrothers]

17:01 see it's like poetry, it rhymes

[@jankusthegreat9233]

Good morning

[@WorldWarTwo]

Morning!

[@Sinostra00]

This one was probably your best episode so far ! Can't wait to see what the results look like next month !

[@quedtion_marks_kirby_modding]

It is surprising how weimer lasted so long, when only 2 parties were really democratic, and all the other wanted the republic gone. (Ik the democratic party technicaly existed, but they weren't very democratic tbh).

[@varana]

In the beginning, the DDP were generally democratic. But their voter base, the small bourgeoisie and intelligentsia, had largely moved away from democracy at this point, and they're a tiny splinter party by now. Because many members are still high-ranking bureaucrats, law professionals, academics, and the like, they consistently punch way above their weight in terms of government participation.

[@quedtion_marks_kirby_modding]

@varana Technocratic parties usualy have that advanatge, yeah. But as you said, most of the voring base moved on from it. Tbh uf Hitler didn't rose to power anotherundemocratic movememnt probably would have.

[@RobbertQPistols]

Always amazing and improving production quality and writing. This is a masterpiece

[@AeciusthePhilosopher]

Heh, this MacArthur guy is going to be forgotten about in 5 years tops.

[@Sheehan1]

It’s sad to be reminded of how committed the SPD was to the constitutional republic. Nobody feels that degree of loyalty to the Bundesrepublik

[@sirhenrymorgan1187]

19:24 Poor Nietzsche. Much like Marx, Nietzsche never intended on inspiring such horrors. Nietzsche: "uh, guys!? This isn't what I meant when I was talking about "ubermensch!" Marx: "I know the feeling. The Russians took my phrase "dictatorship of the proletariat" too literally..."

[@Memertix]

13:33 Oswald Mosley casually chilling with the German Democratic Party wasn't on my Bingo card

[@nicholas_pumper_art]

Monty Python mentioned 🎉

[@stevenwhite7763]

That made me dizzy.

[@roderickcampbell2105]

They are experts. We are all dizzy. That's why we watch It will make wiser. It will also make us laugh.

[@rcwhite364]

Excellent Life of Brian start...

[@kidmohair8151]

it's slightly disorienting talking about August in December... 2 days till the solstice!

[@nathanmckinstry9832]

Did anybody else see this posted and think that it was Saturday, not Thursday?

[@electricVGC]

The Zentrum voice is still the funniest

[@NigelDeForrest-Pearce-cv6ek]

Always Brilliant!!!

[@generaltom6850]

Here’s a fun caricature that was in my History Book about the election (not this one, the one in 1932) and the violence on the streets aswell as the Presidential decrees, translated from German by me. “Presidential Decree, in light of the violence on the streets in the past few weeks, from now on all political parties and organisations must bring their own (bod collection vehicles” to all gathered and events”.

[@josemachado3915]

13:34 Cameo by Oswald Mosley there on the left

[@paulthiede]

6:49 A reference to Rammstein, wunderbar!

[@danieldoyle8646]

Monty Python classic

[@thilgu]

13:33 oswald mosley on the far left. I doubt this is a correct picture of the DDP.

[@Hailerer2602]

3:16 that is not Würzburg 😅

[@spartacus-olsson]

It most certainly isn’t… it seems we need geography teachers for our team.

[@David12scht]

I was going to comment that. For people who don't know: Wurzburg is about halfway between Frankfurt and Nuremburg.

[@J069FIX]

6:53 Going for a bit of Rammstein, eh? Nice news title there!

[@RealPJ]

Interesting 🤔

[@R2Manny]

Every party utilizing “People’s”😅

[@greggweber9967]

Imagine lights shining down from above. Some people see just the red and blue ones, but others see the other colors and brightness and take those into account in their efforts. To one they might say this, while to another that.

[@BakerVS]

You missed the chance to make the joke "whoever cast the first Stein" 😂

[@Sierra026]

Ah, I see someone at Timeghost is a fan of Rammstein!

[@freetolook3727]

Half of those political parties sound like social diseases...SPD! 😂😂

[@theswampcleaner3856]

Hey (insert political party) I CHOOSE YOU!

[@dr.vikyll7466]

SPLITTERS!!!!!! Vote the Alternate SPD for people who tilt their bowlerhat slightly to the left!

[@sputniktechno3203]

13:34 Why is Oswald Mosley there?

[@iuutg]

Never knew Würzburg lay at the banks of the Saale

[@ricardo1885-y7m]

And right off the bat, I have to pause the video because I'm laughing too hard. 😂😂😂😂

[@alancranford3398]

Worker comment: "Wait, what? Bar room brawls are not 'ideological discussion?' There goes our fiery but mostly peaceful protests!"

[@raagtop363]

Watching the counter. I have no life.

[@michaelbergen269]

It's very interesting that Hitler's audiences grew larger the closer he was to the French border. Was there a corresponding increase in Nazi support in these regions as well?

[@varana]

I'd guess it's more a function of proximity to the Ruhr area, the most densely populated region of Germany with many working-class voters (Essen is right in the middle of it, Cologne just next to it, Koblenz still close). Also, the audience size doesn't seem to correspond to Nazi support directly (or Munich and Franconia would've been much larger), so there's probably also other factors (like venue size, intended audience, and so on) playing a role.

[@felicedipaolo6350]

But at 13.38, the guy on the left on the left is Oswald Mosley?!

[@smalltime0]

"Things are shit, but don't lose your cool. Vote Centre" Has literally never appealed to anyone.

[@greggashgarian8360]

Big Max und Vopperz United in der great burger alliance!

[@Garage-physicist]

I found this video hard to follow

[@jill-ti7oe]

What a pair! 👏👏👏

[@Bigdeathy]

At 13:35 is that Sir Oswald Mosley all the left?

[@Lematth88]

All those names of party : loving this !

[@VuldEdone]

I must admit not following this series too closely. I do watch the episodes the moment I see them pop... but mostly in the background. I mean I'm writing this comment and the video is still running. Thing is, when it's a war, you say "this army moved there" and we understand roughly where it came from and what it could lead to. But when you say "this guy said such and such"... well... we have no idea where it's coming from, what it could mean or where it could lead. It's just a series of events, an endless stream of anecdotes that I just can't connect or even remember. I feel like we'll eventually reach the end of the series and I will have learned roughly nothing.

[@spartacus-olsson]

That’s unfortunate. For me, when I started studying history, listening to the rhetoric and the thoughts of the people involved at the time was what made me begin to understand more of the why, what, and how - but we’re all different.

[@kimtuominen5856]

I feel like "series of events and endless stream of anecdotes" is what all of human history really is for us watching it retrospectively. Everything these guys have done with the WWI and WWII series is highly compressed in a sense that they never give you information that isnt relevant. That of course means there is billions of details categorized us "not relevant enough to bring up". Like history of Rome, Nazi Germany, Swedish Empire or any major historic entity cannot be fully examined within ones lifetime, its impossible task to explain what led to anything in the history of the world without going back to prehistoric times every single time. Every single thing is connected somehow. All we have, like you said, and quite literally is just "series of events and endless stream of anecdotes". And those anecdotes for me, are the best way to try and understand what was going on during these events since history of mankind is so incredibly complex web of interconnected events that it will drive you insane trying to make sense of it all. When this series is finally over some day, im gonna miss those endless namedroppings that forces me to google who the hell that guy (looking at you Roman von Ungern-Sternberg) was and it helped a lot to understand their backgrounds and motivations. Its absolutely fascinating! TLDR - I know what you mean, history is complex to study and one needs to dig deeper in your spare time since its impossible to compress such a vast amount of details in a video less than 60 minutes, they give you the names, dates, events and a good amount of details and rest is up to you.

[@varana]

TBH, I'm kind of on the opposite side. I find the "this army moves here and that one there, and a random assortment of vehicles gets wrecked" often a bit ... tedious. In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter all that much, with a few exceptions. But then, I'm also the guy who skips fight scenes in novels. Series like this one, on the other hand, dive deeper into the motivations of the people involved - _why_ are there armies on the move at all? What do the people think, what do they want to accomplish, who do they do stuff? That's much more interesting - and imho, much more important, and teaches much more about why we are where we are. But YMMV, and it's good that we both get videos that cater to our preferences. :)

[@alexeytoptygin7581]

Franz Pfeffer von Salomon had a very tasty sounding name.

[@AstroJoeVino]

What ever happened to the Popular People’s Front?

[@maximtkachow]

With complete blockage of youtube in our country, I have no means to watch this. But nevertheless, I, at the very least, can like your videos! Long live the team! Long live Timeghost Army! Excelcior!!!

[@nborr258]

These are the partys?! Ich wähle nicht!

[@rashkavar]

Interesting that crowd number inflation was a calling card of fascism in the old days too...

[@canuckled]

Whatever happened to the Popular Front Reg?

[@vksasdgaming9472]

He is over there....

[@pinetree9343]

Nothing ever changes. Does it?

[@alexamerling79]

What could go wrong here?

[@GorksOrc0]

Burger Alliance sounds like it should be an American party.

[@Justanotherconsumer]

“Brown army” indeed.

[@tomasinacovell4293]

NUR 1 ABSTIMMUNG!!!!

[@fredleckie5880]

Splitters!!!

[@AnjanS-rp4qk]

A steady creey till he was in total control.

[@Ajgor_Wygoda]

Merry Fucking Christmas : )

[@LordValorum]

13:33 Yo whats Oswald Mosley doing there on the far-left?

[@generaltom6850]

Now that you mention it, what’s Philip Scheidermann doing on the right? /s

[@daalba470]

The Thumbnail is wrong :( the posters show „Liste 1“ for the SPD and „Liste 2“ for the NSDAP. As those numbers were determined by the results of the last election, that picture can only be from the Juli 1932 election, NOT the September 1930 one - in 1930, the NSDAP was „Liste 8“, not 2

[@paulwallin5311]

Hm…this with the number of participants at political rallies….from where do I recognises this…I know it’s recent 😅

[@ChuJungyin]

11:43 "Brown Army" 💩😆

[@ronaldfinkelstein6335]

I'll bite. How much is 1600 marks, in 1930 dollars? And how much would it be in 2024 dollars?

[@theMOCmaster]

If you wanted to highlight the communist and mustache men’s similarities you should have actually read the 25 points

[@spartacus-olsson]

I know that’s a favorite sport among the “Nazis-were-left” clown posse… but here’s the thing: Read the KPD program in parallel and your similarities start falling apart. Translate it from Nazi newspeak, primarily replacing capitalist with Jewish, and even more similarities fall away. If you also manage to see Marxism and Naziism without your polarized glasses, the final similarities vanish. Two different evils, with very opposite ideals and ideology, similar only in their authoritarian methods, and disdain for democracy. Specifically therefore the KPD’s adoption of Nazi sounding rhetoric for the 1930 election is astonishing.

[@maxpayne2574]

We're about to see the same happen in the U.S.. Trump won't leave office when his term is up. To many have forgotten history

[@anon20]

Lol.

[@BichaelStevens]

European parties: Greens Green democrats Democratic greens People's party Democratic People's party Green people's party Democratic socialists Socialist democrats Socialist greens Christian democrats Atheist democrats Worker's party Etc etc 9001 games in 1

[@HandyMan657]

Lying about crowd sizes. Hmmm, curious, did he say he would Make Eggs Cheap Again? No? The wanna be here in the States did. HA!

[@varana]

TBH, that's a very common thing, not only with Nazis and orange wannabe-dictators. Crowd sizes are notoriously hard to estimate, and so the organisers of a rally tend to use higher numbers, others (like the police) often lower ones. As long as it's within a certain reasonable error, it's kind of unavoidable.

[@AmvC]

Ha! 😂

[@merlinwizard1000]

27th, 19 December 2024

[@avanticurecanti9998]

Last time I was this late, Mao Anying was frying rice and became fried rice.

[@obelix703]

18:37 Worst ska band photo ever.

[@nazgulsenpai]

At least they weren't the green army...

[@NotFlappy12]

17:01 was this an intentional dig at the Kamala Harris campaign?

[@spartacus-olsson]

We don’t do that kind of thing. Any parallels to today or echoes from the past, are not of our making. In this case we’re commenting on the German establishment parties with what I would call a truism: you don’t win elections on ‘more of the same’ if most people perceive that change is needed. If that applies to the Harris campaign is of course a matter of interpretation, and interpretation that we can’t make with any authority. Elections are complicated…

[@NotFlappy12]

@@spartacus-olsson Thanks for the reply! It's funny (or sad, depending how you look at it) how often themes from this series appear similar to developments in modern politics. It really shows how much can be learned from history. You are truly doing important work here!

[@patrickwelch3859]

AFD

[@xtcmedic1]

PLEASE STOP WITH THE ACCENTS

[@spartacus-olsson]

Not going to happen. Without different voices it would be impossible to follow.

[@LizzyMeyer-g1d]

@@spartacus-olssonthat’s a relief!