Electric Cars are Not Sustainable and they're Terrible

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[@julianowak4798]

Fun fact: the more anti-car urbanist videos I watch, the more KZbin thinks I want to see car ads.

[@smrtfasizmu6161]

The more videos showing how bad US and Canadian suburbs are, the more I get ads to immigrate to US and Canada.

[@weirdmatter]

Management of you permissions might help!

[@krane15]

Maybe you could do a video on the limitations and issues with youtube algorithm? I'd watch it.

[@TheAvsouto]

That's just the car companies expending money with us instead of with those that can actually make a profit for them.

[@fpc0041]

um adblocker? i haven’t watched a commercial in 20 years never put stupid people down without them where would you be

[@GMPranav]

Trains are way too ahead of their time it's insane.

[@seo7409]

on god

[@NickyYey]

They are already eletric and reliable

[@michaelpeele5739]

@@NickyYey They were electric and reliable 112 years ago. :)

[@NickyYey]

@@michaelpeele5739 they are the peak of the public transportation

[@lordwafflesthegreat]

No, they're not AHEAD of their time, it's the rest of the capitalist industries that have stagnated. Remember, first ever cars were electric and hydrogen powered, before the discovery of cheap OIL!

[@Jaxymann]

It's beyong infuriating to me that we developed literally the most economical, efficient and highest capacity mode of transport in history with the railways, and had massive networks crossing entire continents by the early 20th century, only for all that potential to be utterly squandered by over half a century of car addicition.

[@Drummerx04]

Yeah, and now it's virtually impossible to make it work in our modern society without forcing a complete economic paradigm shift in people who don't even believe climate change exists. And then there's people with most of their equity in their home, so they are fucked even if they conceptually agree with the shift.

[@danielsmith7023]

Yeah, but I really like my car.

[@onorebakasama]

@@danielsmith7023 Good. Then, maybe, you'd enjoy driving it more when the highways aren't completely clogged with people who don't love their cars as much as you and would prefer to take the train if it was a viable option again.

[@fortimusprime]

@@danielsmith7023 Same.

[@LarryWater]

Women keep getting harassed on trains for some reason.

[@paulh.9526]

Your ability to nuance the point, like "gas is worse" and "rurals will keep needing cars" is why I come to your channel

[@timmyturner5358]

He made a video on how rural areas can be walkable

[@perryborn2777]

​​@timmyturner5358r ural towns can be walkable, but I think he and that if you're out living on a ranch or something, which hits close to home for me, cause I did for a long time, and will be doing so again soon. Pickup trucks are a necessity for that type of work nowadays Plus, you need some way to drive into the town to buy your groceries/tools, and there isn't going to be a connected rail system by your remote ranch/farm, because you're the only thing out there

[@TheAmericanCatholic]

@@perryborn2777 even European farmers own pickup trucks from what I have heard. So ofcourse people will still have pickups 🛻.

[@Jacksparrow4986]

@albanianamericaninmichigan1334 well and then there's the elektrofrosch. Basically a car that reduces a pickup truck to 700kg max and electric - suitable for some farm work.

[@TurdFerguson43]

Rural areas still should not be subsidized by urbanists. And that’s how it works when there are pavement roads all the way to the horizon and beyond when there are 3 people living per mile out there. Obviously those 3 people aren’t paying the total cost of that infrastructure. People who live in cities where there are far more people for each bit of infrastructure are paying for it. If people WANT to live in the country, they should pay the price of that choice. Not have it paid for by people who like living in the city simply because the rurals hate the city.

[@am_meep]

imagine if trains were real that would be so cool

[@raul0ca]

Imagine if I didn't have to subside your cool train with local taxes. Buses do the job in metro areas more cheaply

[@exosproudmamabear558]

@@raul0ca I wouldnt call building 8 lines roads cheaply.

[@raul0ca]

@@exosproudmamabear558 Roads are not cheap but gas taxes and truck use taxes pay for the roads. Passenger rail never makes money. Look it up

[@exosproudmamabear558]

@@raul0ca I dont understand your way of thinking. Taxes pay for the roads but you dont want taxes to pay for trains? Or you are saying taxes enough for the roads but for train taxes aren't enough? Anyway I will look for a bit either way. Although it doesn't really matter whether trains make money or not.Problem here isn't money since America already has enough of it. The problem is traffic, inefficient land use and CO2 emissions. Building more roads never solve either of them. Thats why trains are better not because they are profitable or anything.

[@raul0ca]

@@exosproudmamabear558 In the US when I drive my gas tax goes to pay maintenance on the roads. Trains (light rail) charge passengers for tickets but at the end of the year it is not enough and that deficit will come from takes I pay to local government which also supports schools and police/fire. Paying a tax for an activity you do is less terrible than paying for something you get no benefit from. It's like poor people subsidizing rebates for rich people to get solar panels to lower their electricity bills

[@Nota-Skaven]

"Electric cars suck" wait, what "gas cars are even worse" I see where this is going now edit: It's been 4 months stop replying Damn y'all persistent, fine then

[@OnkelJajusBahn]

I was also a bit bewildered at the beginning.

[@callmeswivelhips8229]

THIS COMMENT IS LIFE

[@ROTTERDXM]

car bad, train good

[@thetimelapseguy8]

@@ROTTERDXM By all statistical measures, yes

[@ThePlayerOfGames]

They had me in the first half, not gonna lie

[@harrisonofcolorado8886]

The part of the description that says "Elon bad actually" has aged well.

[@gabrielquinones3343]

Yes it has

[@geisaune793]

- That train montage at 10:14 got me so hard I think I need to see a doctor. - On a more serious (but honestly related) note, whenever I watch a train speed by, even if it's a freight train, the total size combined with its speed and the rumble of the ground makes it such an impressive sight that it can give me goosebumps and it honestly makes me think things like "Fuck yeah, America. Progress." I never get that feeling when I see a car, or even an 18-wheeler, speed by.

[@a-r]

_sees thousands of cars stuck in traffic on the 8 lane freeway_ Fuck yeah, progress!

[@davisdf3064]

I mean, it makes sense, trains can weigh hundreds of tons, and after picking up velocity, go just as fast as any car. They just straight up awesome.

[@WiretheAlligator]

Honestly personally I only ever feel scorn or some similar feeling seeing huge cars go by. They're so dangerous

[@geisaune793]

@@WiretheAlligator One of my admittedly anti-social thoughts is that I want to throw rocks at people and their vehicles who artificially make their vehicle engines obnoxiously loud. Either that or I want to force them to drive electric vehicles. They'd probably hate that just as much.

[@nishanth6403]

There is a reason trains are associated with being 'unstoppable'

[@HazyFelix]

I just hate how much people talk about how expensive public transit is when the highways, cars and car dependancy is the most expensive thing you can do

[@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic7878]

but the taxpayer money!!111!!

[@brotlowskyrgseg1018]

Or the strange double standard that train lines are expected to pay for themselves through ticket sales, while a highway is just something the government is supposed to provide and maintain for free. Imagine if the same requirements of profitability were apllied to car infrastructure.

[@nobettername562]

"Socialism is when the government does stuff" is a bad and incorrect definition, but lets use that definition for a second. The people who don't support that bad definition of socialism are also the same people who usually quite like road infrastructure and stuff, and often own or work for businesses that directy benefit from the trillions of dollars of expense they did not have to partake in past a small percentage of their own tax money. Yet, they cannot see the benifits of doing the same thing with anything but roads, makes no sense. Why do train lines need to be profitable? Hell, did you know many airlines are required by the government (and paid for) to fly certain unprofitable flight routes (usually to allow certain wealthy people and powerful lawmakers to and from DC, their homes, and vacation spots). See, it makes no sense cuz its not about spending that money, its about maintaining the current social hierarchy and way of life, pretending everything is fine and change is bad, and that has convinced so many people to think the same way.

[@HazyFelix]

@@nobettername562 I mean, if socialism is that, than any country is socialist. It's just that people don't understand how much the government already does and that public transit is just replacing stupid spending with smarter spending

[@nobettername562]

@@HazyFelix Yeah, I think I strayed away from the point I wanted to make, which is that its an incorrect definition people think in the US "Socialism is when the governemnt does stuff, and the more stuff it does the more socialist it is, and if it does a whole lot of stuff then its communism" I'm aware its more of a joke but it is perceived like that. And by those who perceive it like that, spending billions and trillions behind the scenes on roads and car infrastructure isn't socialist, but it apparently is when building rail and metro and streetcars and bussing. Its a double standard to which even the owner class doesn't understand how it would help them even in a mostly capitalist system to not have to use cars and trucks for everything. So maybe public infrastructure that doesn't only focus on roads is a good thing, and more people should realize that, even if they don't want the change in lifestyle that will eventually become necessary.

[@samuelsmith6281]

I love that you got Justin Rosniak in for those immortal lines: "I know what you want. I know whatcha came here for. You know that of which I speak? It's a high like no other... It's trains!" Man, I got goosebumps when I heard that.

[@gabrielrocha2516]

Just goosebumps? Damn.... I guest I am a little weird

[@Trumpianet]

Ros's voice made that part 100x funnier

[@dejjal8683]

@@gabrielrocha2516 Nah I got a chubby as well

[@GoodStarfish]

WTYP would love you as a guest

[@AlexeiIgnavich]

@@Trumpianet combined with Jojo’s is the cherry on top

[@jodinha4225]

Using Il Vento D'oro for the trains segment was so fucking good

[@GaryBickford]

It's worth noting that airlines and aurcraft makers, not only auto makers have lobbied furiously against high speed rail.

[@nerd2814]

As an avgeek and railfan, this fucking hurts.

[@tokarp390]

well there is not so need of high speed trains , there is a need of speed trains coordinated with other public transport with separate infrastructure (Trams,Metrobuses, Subway, Railbus or even buses with buspases) 80-100 mph as a standard is good enough for skeleton of rail network as it is higher speed then on highways but it means federal needs to invest into interstate railway connection especially in north east corridor.

[@MalachiWhite-tw7hl]

Do you have any proof of this?

[@speedy0_FPV]

california is building a nice one (hopefully a nice one), so thats cool.

[@denelson83]

And Big Oil.

[@lmlmd2714]

America: "Mixed use development" Europe: "Towns"

[@razzor4708]

As Eastern European, i'd choose America over woke never learning history lessons Western Europe,who forgot their culture and heritage all day....

[@EvyFurry]

​@@razzor4708 as another Eastern European, I'd rather choose Western Europe over America, which currently is attacking and censoring people who aren't "traditionalist Christians". Let's not forget about the American shitty systems and how it's designed to screw everyone except those who are on top. If you like the traditionalist politics then stay as far in the East as possible. Might as well move in the corrupted Russia if you really hate the "woke". "woke never learning history Western Europe"? "Never learning history" seems more like an American thing rather than a West European thing. I never thought that there will be book bannings, but it has happened there again. I never thought that there will be horrendous acts of violence against minorities over stupid and exaggerated lies, but it has happened there again. I never thought that there will be attempts of literally taking children away from parents because either the parent or the child is queer, but it has happened there again. Now tell me, isn't that exactly what happened against people of color, jews, atheists and many other minorites? Isn't history repeating itself? "who forgot their culture and heritage". Culture evolves and expands. Just because something was okay before in a culture it doesn't mean it's okay now. For example, slavery was viewed completely moral, but nowadays it isn't. Another one is that centuries ago being in any other religion rather than the countries' official one was completely forbidden in most countries, now it isn't. Embracing culture for the sake of tradition can be dumb. What's the problem that we don't follow old culture?

[@dftp]

​​@@razzor4708 Eastern Europe really went down the shitter. You guys used to be chad Communists dunking on Nazi punks left and right and now all you do is cry about liberals on twitter being mean to you... Go ahead and move to your safe space of America then.

[@DanielQRT]

@@razzor4708 i prefer living a semi-decent life than to live in america

[@carolean4360]

​@@razzor4708 What have we forgotten that muh eastern europe hasn't? Also I think your perception of culture is warped by the fact that western european culture has influenced so many cultures around the world including yours.

[@kikivoorburg]

The only universal constant in urban planning: *Railways will do it better*

[@alanmay7929]

And trams and trolleybus....

[@incompetencelogistics8924]

@@alanmay7929 trams are literally trains

[@davidty2006]

@@incompetencelogistics8924 road trains

[@levistrauss5378]

They have a railway between my house and my cabin in the woods?

[@hngldr]

@@levistrauss5378 They said urban, not rural. I'd say suburban too. The cabin in the woods isn't even suburban tho...

[@kazikian]

Driving is fun; commuting is hell.

[@lol-ih1tl]

Traffic jams are fun?

[@kazikian]

@@lol-ih1tl that’s why I said commuting sucks. Driving out in the country on nice winding roads there’s no traffic ;)

[@o_s-24]

Driving should be only for sport and leisure in cities, like riding horses for example

[@leonpaelinck]

You nailed it! Most car enthousiasts actually HATE car-centric infrastructure (although subconsiously). The biggest car nut I know cycles to work every day!

[@WaddupItsYaBoi]

The absolute flashbang of hearing the Regular Car Reviews "wingadingadingadinga" in one of your videos is a welcome sensation.

[@CJbrinkman602]

I knew I wasn’t tripping when I heard that

[@HeckaLives]

People who have never lived in a city with a good transit system, can't understand how fast and convenient it is. If you've got a good transit network everything in the city feels like it's in your neighborhood.

[@PWN_Nation]

Arlington, VA has had their "car free diet" program, and it's pretty cool overall. Except when demand outstripped supply and rents went through the roof.

[@ryccoh]

Which city?

[@anomitas]

@@ryccoh europe

[@XtremePh33rz]

Keyword “good”. Public transit in most US cities is terrible at worst and mediocre at best. I’ve used the New York transit system countless times and it never ceases to amaze me how they find new ways to fuck things up. Not to mention rampant crime and being constantly accosted by aggressive transients. I’ve never been more glad to move out of the urban jungle and actually own a home and a nice piece of property.

[@GR-cf4qh]

I've lived in such cities and still hated mass transit. I just don't like being crowded in a place with a bunch of people I don't know. But, yes, mass transit in Tokyo is several orders of magnitude better than mass transit in most of the US, where you likely have to wait 20 minutes or more at a bus stop with homeless addicts to make your transfer and your total trip takes several times longer than the same trip would by car.

[@gabrielshensky348]

Hearing him finally say the word "Trains" was probably the most satisfying I've felt in weeks

[@ronskancke1489]

We have one train near where I live. It carries granite 20 miles each way to concrete plants in the city.

[@aSmallGreenDot]

@@ronskancke1489 yeah my city doesn't have passenger rail, only slow buses (because of car traffic)

[@shieldgenerator7]

and the jojo music was just the icing on the cake

[@HawkGTboy]

Yeah, TRAINS… please, lock me up in a metal tube with schizophrenics and junkies and psychopaths. Sign me the fuck up. Cars and suburbs exist as a way to escape all of that diversity. None of you soyboy urbanities can even name that root cause of the problem, so any solutions you come up with are destined fail.

[@nitesy381]

Why do I hear a left leaning hungarian screaching happily?

[@kiwidave8930]

Cities have to come first. Trains are great and all, but they are the final phase in these changes. If you connect two car infested cities together with a train line it's not going to work because you'll step off the train onto a giant carpark next to a 6 lane stroad and you won't be able to get anywhere because you didn't bring your car with you.

[@secretyoutube7925]

Don't we do that with Airplanes already? We rent a car from airport and go on our merry ways. I'm essentially refuting the point trains are last step. Rather fighting climate change is a multi-pronged approach and all of them are necessary.

[@silver_bowling]

I agree both are necessary, but I think they need to be done simultaneously. Building a rail line allows you to densly develop the areas right around the station, and more density and riders will follow

[@ishathakor]

both are necessary but they can also be done simultaneously. the first thing to do (imo) is to change zoning laws and allow mixed use development. city planners and traffic engineers should also publish some local/statewide/nationwide (don't really care as long as it's functional and actually makes sense) guidelines to be followed on how to build roads. the cheapest way to rebuild roads would be to just wait until they're scheduled for maintenance anyway (roads have lifespans of like 15-30 years) and repave them to the new specifications - such as having separated bike paths, proper traffic calming measures, and continuous sidewalks, to name just a few guidelines that can be implemented. whenever a new road is paved it can just as easily be made to the new specifications. as this change will be gradual there will be no bulldozing of cities required (though just look at any american car infested cities that were bulldozed to become parking lots clearly no one actually has an issue with bulldozing cities lol) and new developments will just crop up around the newly pedestrianized neighbourhoods over time. we don't have to wait until we've sufficiently redesigned all our cities to be great and people-centric to improve train service. it's best to do both things at the same time because while our cities are gradually redeveloping to be more people-centric, people will slowly start using trains more and more anyway.

[@lyinarbaeldeth2456]

That is the current state of affairs where I live. Not only is it significantly more expensive to take the train than to drive, I have to spend additional money once I arrive to rent a car. These are changes which need to happen in tandem. It doesn't matter how walkable the city is if I need to bring my car to reach it, I will still need somewhere to park my pollution box. And excellent inter-city rail isn't economically feasible for the user if I arrive at my destination and need to rent a car because the city isn't walkable and has terrible local transit.

[@EastWindCommunity1973]

Finally, an urbanist KZbin channel that is funny. Citynerd and Not just bikes don't cut it on that front. One day I will be that fat man on a freakishly heavy bicycle.

[@ilpirata17]

I too have such aspirations

[@NeedForMadnessSVK]

"I'll expand on this particular topic in a future episode." Oh yeah Alan, inject that train propaganda straight into my veins!

[@jessicac4751]

Hahah I love this comment! Gimme that instant high of the train propaganda! Yaasss!

[@MagnumLoadedTractor]

I think he is paid by obb and Canadian pacific at this point

[@makisekurisu4674]

Rail lines are cheaper than making roads right?

[@keshavmittal6365]

@@makisekurisu4674 it cant provide last mile connectivity

[@HendrikTheThird]

@@keshavmittal6365 That's what public transit and your feet are for.

[@tinyhotopicbitch]

As a car enthusiast, i agree. Less traffic and more road space for us, and less idiots on the road that don't know how to drive.

[@tyranus1111]

This guy

[@robertoarkenburg6652]

Exactly. What a lot of pro car people don’t get is that with more public transport (that no one is forcing them to use) there will be less cars on the road and driving will be a more enjoyable experience.

[@djhero0071]

Is your channel album an icon by chance? Also, I agree but doesn’t public transit have a stigma? Like NYC’s train and metro system? Or is that mainly a comedian exaggeration thing?

[@stebopign]

i'm with this guy.

[@warmike]

@@robertoarkenburg6652 "that no one forces them to use" would be good. The reality is paid roads everywhere (assuming you are allowed to drive on them at all), and paid parking everywhere, costing A FUCKING FORTUNE.

[@bmortloff]

Commuting by car is a housing market failure

[@Gryphonisle]

Electric cars would have been a great transition vehicle had they been available as they are today, twenty years ago. Cars drive sprawl and sprawl reinforces the car as primary transportation, wiping out valuable local farmland, and wild animal habitat, and now with remote living, in areas that should be left sparsely populated, and areas that are either burn or flood zones where no one should be living. There is no green car and never will be.

[@ryuuseiboi950]

Haven't even played the video and 100% you're going to diss all cars and suburban areas while advocating for public transit.

[@bartholomewdan]

Yep.

[@ryuuseiboi950]

Why even bother commenting

[@K3end0]

@@ryuuseiboi950 I dont know, why did you bother commenting?

[@michaelmoses8745]

Yep.

[@m.f.3347]

100% based

[@terminhaider9695]

As a car enthusiast, I must lend a hand to the train enthusiasts to be able to increase public transit and only people who WANT to drive with luggage will be on the road. Tends to help with safer driving conditions.

[@filtrakioldhorborn]

bruv let's ban normies off our roads, lorries, cool cars and motorcycles will remain, imagine that. no traffic no speed limits no karens killing motorcyclists because they're on their phone!

[@anamore]

@@filtrakioldhorborn I don't know if you're sarcastic or not, but that would genuinely be heaven.

[@filtrakioldhorborn]

​@@anamore nah mate i genuinely wish that was the world we lived in. imagine non enthusiasts just being busriders, while the 1% of the population actually get's to enjoy driving

[@savagegtalks5912]

@@filtrakioldhorborn like Plato said 2000 years ago, democracy is a problem when farmer class gets to vote... they should never been given that right to begin with. Same goes for driving cars. It's a mistake we let them drive in the first place.

[@DirtyDan77]

@@filtrakioldhorborn bruh if you lived in Canada i would vote for you to be prime minister.

[@theagemaway]

Once Tesla solves autonomous driving, they'll be able to make extra large bus-sized electric cars that can be shared by people going to the same location. Then they can get dedicated lanes for these "super cars" so that drivers don't interfere with the AI driving. Once we have dedicated lanes, they can make the "super cars" have metal wheels and metal guides embedded in the lane to reduce rolling resistance. Possibly even add an overhead electricity source to reduce the need to carry so many batteries. Just wait, these changes will be considered the innovation of the century! Super cars with metal wheels and guides and smaller batteries.

[@nerd2814]

Muskrat be reinventing railcars eh?

[@electric7487]

LOL, love the sarcasm.

[@thedean489]

THANK YOU for specifying the difference for farmers, as a farmer who believes in a carless future for the vast majority of people it is infuriating to see all the climate activists wanting to ban all cars without thinking about people like me who live in a way that they need a car.

[@ishathakor]

i'm very anti car (don't even think they should be allowed in most city centres - there should be a parking garage and you have to walk/bike/take transit in) and even i agree that cars are genuinely required in some cases. in the case of rural living, obviously it's just going to be too much to expect to pave and maintain so many roads and to build out extensive public transit routes that make it possible for every farmer to live a completely car-free life. i honestly think car rentals or car-share programs should still exist too just in case people don't want to own a car but still want to have the option of being able to rent one to do a big furniture haul or a roadtrip or something.

[@svenjorgensenn8418]

People like you want to ban people's property. Good luck with that. The US has the 1st amendment and other countries dont.

[@Tayy_B]

Exactly. As much as I would love to have more bike and pedestrian friendly cities and have public transit, I love my car as well and I'm also aware people living in rural areas will need to own one too. Heck even I'd like to live in the country one day, but I just wanna have options in how I travel too.

[@artemkatelnytskyi]

I also think, that the marketing promotes EVs as green and removes "guilt" from environmentally conscious buyers, which causes them to buy a freshly produced car, rather than keep using what you already have until it breaks.

[@weaksause6878]

Like the people who carry around a massive hydro flask and then try to lecture me because I have been using the same plastic bottle for 3 months.

[@fatetestarossa2774]

@@weaksause6878 Indeed

[@notest396]

People just avoid the problem rather than solving it, it's like moving to an expensive area without people of color, so you can say that your police department has no problem with police brutality or underperforming children in school. Without public transportation wealthy people will just say "Not our problem, we all got at least one Tesla" while poor people will say: "We can't afford EVs" and out of "compassion" for the poor people the US will let people use their gas powered cars.

[@Sh4dxwxz]

That's kinda fucking true. But it's also actually a bit better to buy a modern electric or hybrid car that drive on a gas engine, if you can. Because it is at the end of the day a financial investment that benefits the environment also. And even if you support non car infrastructure, ( like destroy them all toss it in the trash). You're still going to need a car when there is absolutely none. Which is what's so sinister. We've been forced into it

[@Sh4dxwxz]

@@notest396 big true. I fucking hate liberals they are possibly the stupidest self righteous people in the world.

[@damianm-nordhorn116]

Electric isn't the issue. Mobility in general needs to develop towards lightweight. Simply doesn't make sense to move 2000 kg of vehicle (or even 1000) to move a cargo/people of 80-200 kilograms.

[@Joesolo13]

That city in Georgia that has widely adopted golf carts might be the American take on Dutch cycling standards

[@TheSullie1]

We have the technology in bikes, scooters, rickshaws and mopeds. But alas those solutions cannot work in mixed traffic with American road tanks

[@theexcaliburone5933]

If only trains existed to solve this issue

[@burgerpommes2001]

50-120 kg

[@klobiforpresident2254]

@@burgerpommes2001 We're talking about Americans.

[@kazikian]

Homer: What advantages does this motor car have over say...a train. Which I could also afford.

[@BJ-db6nl]

Bro rly dropped the hardest trains edit at 10:15 and thought we wouldn’t notice

[@00PedroM]

I am from Brazil. My father said that in the 70s-80s my region was connected by railways, and it was very good for travelling from the countryside to the urban centers. Then by pressure of the automotive industry (according to him, but I do believe it is the case) there was a massive shift in public transportation priorities - highways and roads took the place of trains and trams. It's really not practical and worse for the environment. Traffic jams in my region are unbearable.

[@justanotheryoutubechannel]

America had a very similar shift, they went from having streetcars, trams, and some railways to motorways and cars due to the automotive lobbying after the world wars. My country had a similar thing, everyone was converting to cars so we followed along and let our railways fall apart despite them once being the best in the world.

[@Skylancer727]

Like in my local area here in the US. We used to have rail trollies all over my home town and reaching into the next like 5 cities surrounding it. You just kinda waved to get on when it was passing by and pulled the cable on the ceiling to stop when you wanted to go. But they ripped out all those lines only shortly before I was born as the city said they "just needed to add another lane of traffic for tourists". Well guess what, now we have no public transit, the city ended up losing most of its tourists, and the roads are in a horrific state.

[@Gadottinho]

That is true, I live in a city with around 600k people and here used to be trains, etc, and now there are some shitty buses, and also, the city was even considered to be the city of the bicycle, to see how much changed.

[@TheAmericanCatholic]

@@justanotheryoutubechannel I live in Detroit that had 200miles (320km) of streetcar (tram)track in the city limit and around 600 miles (1000km) of suburban streetcar tracks and in the 1940s when my grandmother was taking the streetcars to school she had to go in the middle of a busy street because the streetcar was build in the center of the street before car traffic was a thing as there was only pedestrians cyclists and slow horse carriages so building it in the middle of the street made sense because you only had to cross one lane of horse and buggy traffic. However after the middle class started to buy large amount of cars the cars speed by the streetcar and when people went to cross for the streetcars the my encountered high speed traffic and the city of Detroit dismantled or paved over the hundred of miles of tracks. Dispite Detriot being the auto manufacturering hub of the Usa automotive industry the big three companies didn’t get the streetcars removed because the city owned the lines since the 1920s. The stupid thing looking back was why the city didn’t give dedicated lanes for streetcars and made crosswalks with traffic lights around the streetcar stops so riders wouldn’t be endangered and not destroyed have a massive public transit network.

[@mitotakjde9763]

@@TheAmericanCatholic my city did it well, we have tram metro bus and rail but also big roads. You can live without car quite easily as a station of public transit is always max 5 min walk away from you. But also for people who need cars, the roads are quite great except some incredibly stupid crossroads where you have 9 exits but only 1 lane per 3 exits. Its the perfect balance, you can live just fine without having a car, but if you want to have it, its good too. Only the parking spot system is stupid, as you always have to pay for your parking, even infront of your house. If you park on the street where you live, you pay once a year and its quite cheap, but parking anywhere else is paid for the time you stay there and its extremely expensive. Up to 10$ per hour and you cant have it prepaid, you have to pay each time you park somewhere. Paying for just parking on the streets is annoying, and they have cars with cameras which automatically send you ticket if you haven't paid. And if you park anywhere else on the street where the paid zone isnt marked (the places where you can park have rectangles to mark those spots) you automatically get a ticket. I got a ticket for just stopping on 1 of the parking spots, while my car was still on as i really needed to pee, so i stopped only for 1 min with the engine still on and still got a ticket. Thats the only thing i really hate about this city. Also, you can't be on the parking spot if you haven't already paid, but you have to manually pick the parking location and time in an app to pay the ticket, so you would either have to block the traffic while youre paying (and also you can't be on a phone while on the road, so that another ticket for you), or know which spot for parking is free before starting the drive, paying it in advance and hope that noone gets to that spot before you drive there. (Which is just not possible).. great city overall, but this thing is absolutely stupid

[@mx62455]

It really baffles me that as soon as companies make an electric car, all concept of efficiency goes out the window, because to them it doesnt matter since its all electric anyway. We end up with even bigger, deadlier, more resource intensive SUVs used for transporting ikea furniture and 1 child around the suburbs.

[@the.abhiram.r]

it should be required that you apply for a permit providing a need to own a vehicle if it weighs more than 3000 pounds

[@tjseid]

@@the.abhiram.r I think you need to look up how many cars weigh over 3,000 pounds lol…that’s like…almost every new car except for Miata’s and similar

[@electric7487]

In the past decade, EV's have turned into some of the most greenwashed things that mankind has ever made. Rooftop solar has suffered the same fate. Bonus points if someone has both AND lives in a McMansion.

[@TheAmericanCatholic]

@@electric7487 what’s wrong with rooftop solar? The roof on a single family home isn’t doing much so why not use solar panels

[@electric7487]

@@TheAmericanCatholic You missed the part where I clearly said that rooftop solar is up there with electric vehicles as a product that is extremely greenwashed (id est, something that people get so they can FEEL LIKE they are "G O I N G G R E E N"). Put simply, too many people who get rooftop solar do it only for the bragging rights.

[@johnb.8622]

If public transport would be so good and widespread that the majority of people wouldn´t need a car, than the car enthusiasts that are left could drive whatever they want because the impact on the enviroment would only be marginal. That´s the best option in my opinion, I take the train whenever I can but also really enjoy the spontaneity and freedom of owning a car

[@vipergg9159]

Yeah subways are a lot of fun .

[@Rickwhyy]

Its kind of amazing that somebody that has experienced the Philadelphia transit system actually likes trains.

[@grahamstrouse1165]

It’s not bad, really. I just wish they’d build SEPTA out more.

[@kenj0418]

"Fat Man on a Freakishly Heavy Bicycle" - Sorry, but someone my size needs a more reinforced frame on my bike.

[@jessicac4751]

Mmmm....tricycle?? It can also allow for better and more storage area too for grocery shopping and the like! :) I was recently looking at bicycles actually because I reaalllyyyy want one of those awesome dutch type bikes, that have standard features that are more "add on" features here in the us. So anyways, I was looking at some bikes on a website, I don't remember the website though, but I actually kinda liked some of the tricycles they had on there and thought huh....man that would be way more convenient when going grocery shopping here in the burbs, bc you can put more groceries in the storage cart thingy between the two back wheels. Anyways, this was kinda long and ramble-y, lolol. But maybe a tricycle would work. Or a bike or trike with a little bit sturdier frame would do? Shit. I just did a Google search and apparently there are bikes for people who are heavier too. I'm going to have to look into that simply because it's interesting. The ones I briefly saw said differing weight requirements for some are like 300-350 and even one or two brands that are 400! That's actually really awesome to see because bike riding is much better and less harmful on the joints of folks who are really overweight. Really awesome to see that! Soo....thanks for this comment because it got me to look into it a little bit. ....even if it was a joke comment, lol...I still appreciate it!

[@matthewlui1004]

"Electric cars are the future" Meanwhile electric trains and trams existing for a century: I guess we never existed

[@razsolo]

It’s like dippindots being the ice cream of the future bro

[@bobbyDig]

Lots of EV morons around, lots

[@jhonklan3794]

Because shocker people like choosing exactly where they want to go when they want to.

[@PostLagone]

@@jhonklan3794 I'd rather walk or bike exactly where I want to go

[@Foogi9000]

@@PostLagone That's not always possible though. Many people have disabilities that would make something as simple as walking or biking impossible. Are we just going to tell them "oh well guess you'll just have to deal with it"?

[@WonderfulWorldWalnut]

My partner and I love taking trains to places as opposed to flying or driving. Unfortunately, it's not possible for us to travel with our mid-size dog via train. So for extended trips to see family, we usually have no choice but to drive. For day to day, I would LOVE to not be car dependent (and, to a certain extent I have achieved, this by working from home), but I live in a semi-rural area that is unwalkable and lacks any form of public transit nearby.

[@ilyafilru]

I live in San Francisco area and ride a motorcycle as a primary mode of transportation. Sure it's inconvenient at times, but I never sit in traffic.

[@andynorvell4953]

Motorcycles are kool..it prolly has more good days than bad..

[@omgjlmiub]

Goes to Japan once and now I’m embarrassed by how crappy our metro system is. Traveling all through Tokyo was so easy on their metro lines it’s insane. Faster than a car would imo.

[@kronk9418]

Did you use the JPN Rail Pass?

[@traveller23e]

And that is public transit done right.

[@starman6468]

@Gottes God you can always rent one tho

[@traveller23e]

@Gottes God I'm fine with that as long as it's electric, heavily taxed, and you're not taking it in the city.

[@tatsunithelennyking2540]

@Gottes God Ah so you don't "just want to drive all over the country with your friends." Stop being disingenuous lmao.

[@philliesphan334]

I loathe self driving cars for incentivizing people to buy cars they can't afford. I'm both a car enthusiast & an advocate for rail based infrastructure because car based infrastructure takes away the joys I receive from driving whether it'd be dealing with shit drivers who view driving as solely a chore or putting unenjoyable miles on my car.

[@coastaku1954]

That's a good way to put it

[@alanmay7929]

And trains/trams can litteraly last for a century just needing motors and systems upgrades. I still see 1980 trams and trains in Europe tbh.

[@beilkster]

I'm trying to follow your logic. How are these people convinced to spend more money than they can afford on self driving cars? People should be free to spend their money as they choose, right? (Deceptive or misleading marketing not included)

[@VestedUTuber]

@@beilkster It's because they think they need something they don't. Simple as that. It doesn't help that there are movements out there that want to flat-out ban any cars that aren't self-driving, and people hear about those and immediately assume they need to buy a self-driving car in order to comply with laws that aren't even in the books (or won't ever be - the arguments hinge entirely on the assumption that faster reaction times are the sole issue with driver safety, ignoring all other factors such as spatial awareness, decision making and being able to judge conditions ahead-of-time as well as the fact that computers aren't perfect and CAN make mistakes, glitch up or otherwise fail in a wide variety of ways).

[@beilkster]

@@VestedUTuber thanks for elaborating

[@TheChoosenOneGaming0]

this content is amazing and should be broadcast into everyone’s phones once a day until im done single handedly tearing apart our highway system with a grapefruit spoon

[@stevens1041]

Yep. Growing up in San Francisco, we had excellent, cheap public transit. Clean and decent rail service. And then Uber and Lyft put their Headquarters in. Suddenly, ride sharing was the future! And they let the trains go down to shyte. Sad. Its a new age version of automotive companies many decades ago lobbying government to get rid of the old tram networks.

[@Kevin_TN]

Also, let’s not forget, about 70% of greenhouse gasses come from companies, not us at the micro level. Just a way for big companies to deflect blame back to the smaller person.

[@kiwikiwi2483]

That 30% could be fixed

[@kathr0s]

@@kiwikiwi2483 A church of the 70% could be fixed by showing companies a focus on greener transport is where the money is going, rather than just electric cars that only pretend to be better for the environment

[@jeremyshelley1529]

Uh yeh, but much of that is power plants and oil refining so it's missing the point.

[@nyanbrox5418]

yes and they also get to decide who runs for president or prime minister, because why not

[@lidge1994]

@@kiwikiwi2483 So you'd rather fix the 30% made by billions of people than try to fix the 70% made by a few thousand? (only counting the decision making owners, CEOs, engineers etc.)

[@defaultmesh]

building highway "but how do we pay for it?" "we just pay for it" building high speed rail "but how do we pay for it?" "REEEEEEEEE"

[@davidty2006]

despite the high speed 2-4 track rail line won't take up as much space as a 6 lane highway. Also no new advances in technology arn't required for construction since electric trains existed since the 1930s

[@badass6300]

@@davidty2006 And regular modern trains can reach 230-270km/h without a problem.

[@davidty2006]

@@badass6300 mhm and when it comes to mountain passes the power they have is nearly overkill

[@badass6300]

@@davidty2006 true, but you can always slow down if needed. We don't need bullet trains that do 600km/h or whatever, just regular modern trains on regular modern tracks.

[@karenwang313]

High speed rail is a waste of money when airplanes exist and aren't locked into a single route.

[@johnmanno2052]

Hi. I live in a rural area. I haven't owned a car since 2008. I walk everywhere. It can happen.

[@samplautz5586]

I live in a town of 12k in Wisconsin, 45 minutes from Madison. I would totally ride a train every day or use whatever public transport if we had it

[@ithrowcardsalex9992]

Public transit sucks bad. I did it for a couple years and didn’t realize how valuable my car was until I got back into it. So much time wasted on public transit.

[@GamingPerks]

I love cars. But I have to agree with you, if you are in a metro area, cars only kinda serve as a flex(in poorer countries) and basically spend 99% of the time parked. I especially agree that inner city areas should be designed to be more bike and pedestrian friendly! Definitely would help with people not exercising too.

[@user-uy1rg8td1v]

Well I'm pro ride sharing apps/services so that that car that dropped you off can then go pick some one else up as well as easily carpool strangers together.

[@thatguyalex2835]

Me personally, I feel that highways should still exist, but have less lanes. A train could run parallel to the highways, and reduce the number of cars on the road by say, 70%. But yeah, our car-centric society needs to change.

[@myra0224]

@@thatguyalex2835 Is reality in Belgium that some train lines run parallel to the highway and it's so satisfying to see the cars in traffic (or just driving as well) when we zoom by 🥰

[@thatguyalex2835]

@@myra0224 Agreed. I have been on trains in Europe, and the cars look like they are standing still, as the train goes 140 km/h, and the cars barely go faster than 90 km/h.

[@myra0224]

@@thatguyalex2835 Here in Belgium, normal trains (so not the high speed international lines) can even go up to 200km/h 😉

[@SuperTommox]

Most Americans are TERRIFIED of every little change that could effect their suburbia hellscape. No multi story building, no commercial area near houses, no public transportation (it's for the poor). JUST METAL BOXES AND THE SPACE NECESSARY TO MOVE AND PARK THE METAL BOXES.

[@jimmyjohn8008]

Yeah we live like kings with our waste.

[@mosqski3106]

yea I think that's why some yanks really like those boxy stretched pete 389 as their main truck not that I hate them or anything, they look good and sounds good but they require lot of space to maneuver and park compared to newer gen class 8 trucks

[@shawnsorbom8907]

The irony is that suburbs still need public transit. A lot of middle-class people have housekeepers who commute from inner-city areas. They can't afford cars, so they take a bus. And who provides these buses? The suburbs that want their services of course. The problem is that buses are an option of Last Resort for most people.

[@ShidaiTaino]

Most Americans are terrified of everything

[@Slashx92]

Sorry but I actually CAN pay my uber to the grocery store 🤷‍♀️

[@charlesmansonpart2498]

I’m just gonna use this as an excuse to drive my gas guzzling v8 a little more

[@allelectric1330]

feel sorry for electric car drivers and future owners. They will simply have to learn the hard way .. as I did. These things are a huge hassle, all those lost hours sitting in those charging stations, huge anxiety, plus a outrageous expense in the long run. Good luck trying to sell a used Electric car with wore out battery modules. You'll find out nobody wants to pay the ridiculous price of batteries ... Batteries are very ... very expensive to replace ( thousands and thousands of dollars) ... and make no mistake, you will be replacing them. These batteries are highly toxic to our environment, with a high potential for disaster to our surroundings. DON'T FOOL YOURSELF and CERTAINLY, DON'T LISTEN TO A SALESMAN, ... THEY WILL SAY ANYTHING, DO ANYTHING TO MAKE A SALE ! THESE NEW SPECIALIZED AUTOMOTIVE GRADE BATTERIES ... ARE NOT GREEN CLEAN ENERGY BY ANY MEANS! ... I wish I knew all this before I bought my car . Do your homework before buying !

[@Bristecom]

Yep, one of the biggest scams ever.

[@TheFourFoot]

I'm becoming much more disillusioned with EV's. They're an ok bandaid, nothing more, and nothing less.

[@beilkster]

Given humans reluctance to lower their current comfort level, if an EV is better for the environment and is temporary its still better than the alternative. Also, Tesla just released their emissions report and it stated the break even point for model 3 vs ICE equivalent was 5,600 miles. Over the lifetime of the vehicle it was 2x to 6x fewer emissions (depending if it was charged with grid or solar). The quoted 3-5 year equivalent quoted in this video is an old statistic.

[@alphastratus6623]

No, they are more. The automobile was and is very successful because it is a good solution for many cases and the best/only solution if there are not enough people for public transport. This is important for millions of people. For these people there is no solution without car. So the EV is part of the solution. But we start looking for the best solution for different usecases. The 'one size fits all' cannot be efficient.

[@Sh4dxwxz]

It's less of a bandaid and more of a catheter. You're never going to want to leave that shit in.

[@raunakshahi8485]

@@alphastratus6623 Lemme guess, Elon Musk is god for you, right?

[@alphastratus6623]

@@raunakshahi8485 Why? Where did I wrote something even close to this?

[@samkuzel]

When you said "it's trains" my friends and I cheered at the TV like a bunch of NUMTOT dinguses

[@The.Ghost.of.Tom.Joad.]

Preach, brother, preach. Electric cars suck. Mostly because since the '90s America's been making cars bigger and heavier. Because "Murka, the home of the free!!!" Back in the '90s, my Ford Fiesta got 35 MPG+ and was so tiny my friends lifted it to place it on a parking lot's island for a practical joke. Even the smallest car today weighs at least 50% more than that. As for suburban sprawl, well... this lifelong urban dweller lived in a Chicago suburb for three years and hated it. Everything was way to inconvenient, so I moved the family back into a tight urban area. Where we could take a bus to art museums, concerts, and sporting events. My youngest ever took a bus to her first two years of university.

[@nocomment3294]

The truth is, there is no sustainable future with our current energy and resource consumption. People just don't like that.

[@photelegy]

I'm so happy that Switzerland started early to invest in our train infrastructure. And I really hope we won't stop optimizing it. ✌🏻

[@krane15]

But wait, the U.S. started early too. Ours was just abandoned because of the then wide open spaces.

[@katlynklassen809]

It is easy in small countries. Somewhere like Canada is a different animal.

[@Atombender]

Switzerland is an actual democracy without a giant car and oil lobby. There's the difference.

[@mrrailgun6440]

@@Atombender There is no so called democracy anywhere in europe.

[@fratelegonzi8393]

@@mrrailgun6440 That's just straight dumb

[@karenkwan9782]

Brain dump: Underground metro/subway, trains + highspeed rails, efficient bus/public transits, public bike/scooter/electric moped sharing system, better sidewalks + designated bike lanes for safety, allow skateboarding, overall just to improve the stigma around walking and "public transit". Ask anyone of my friends and they would say they don't use the public transits in the states because its either unclean, uncared for, or unsafe to them. But compared to when we travel abroad to Taiwan, Japan, parts of Europe, etc, they all happily use public transportation. Really hope the states would improve or implement more of these systems soon.

[@insert_username_here]

@@cactusjackNV I'm sure it can't be too long, though. Major cities can just make streets and stuff less car focused, maybe add a price for driving in the inner areas of the city similar to the Congestion Charge in London.

[@edwardnoble9897]

@@cactusjackNV The Netherlands used to be car-centric not too long ago. It would take some time but the bigger problem is investment. Long term plans don't really exist for politicians with relatively short terms, but the biggest problem is the push to maintain the car-centric system due to lobbying from oil and car companies. As with many things; corruption and unregulated capitalism is the problem.

[@YoureAMitch]

@@cactusjackNV Europe did the same shit we did, and removed highways from city center. We constantly build insane highway off ramp things that cost insane amounts of money. Saying something is too far gone is part of the problem and plain wrong. I’m already this fat I might as well just keep eating because it’ll be too hard to work out now. Wtf ?!?

[@ruslbicycle6006]

Even easier: carfree streets. Instant money saving. Everything that replaces it is better. Don't need to spend all that money rebuilding. Just #EndCarEra

[@Rtruo85]

You mean, most Americans don’t even have access to public transit; it’s not even offered. And in most areas where it is offered, it’s a bus line that runs in one direction once every hour and a half.

[@geisaune793]

Two big arguments against car-dependent living that aren't ever brought up, yet I think I are very compelling (long comment incoming): 1. Cars are often thought of as bringing freedom of movement, facilitating independent living, and just generally increasing personal liberty, the good ol' american way. But for a significant portion of the population, namely those under a certain income level, it's actually the opposite. When the place you live is designed in such a way so that it's nearly impossible to go about your daily life without a car, it specifically limits freedom of movement and hinders independent living for low income people who have crappy, unreliable cars, or no car at all. It's not just inconvenient to live without a car in those places. It fucking sucks. It's humiliating and demoralizing to be a fully grown, able-bodied adult and have to either constantly depend on other people to get you where you need to go, constantly use unreliable or inconvenient American public transport, or be forced to walk. It's no coincidence that many entry-level, low-paying jobs ask you if you have a reliable means of transport during the interview. How many times have you seen someone wearing a work uniform walking alongside a stroad that looks happy? 2. Car-dependent living facilitates a meaner, more anti-social society. It's easy to be an asshole to someone while you're in a car for the same reason it's easy to be an asshole to someone when you're on the internet. Most everyone has lots of stories of total strangers driving dangerously or being idiots in traffic, but many fewer stories of total strangers who were jerks to them in person, right to their face. On the internet, you can call someone a name, and the only reaction you have to deal with is some text on a screen and maybe a profile picture. You don't have to deal with body language, facial expression, tone of voice, names hurled back at you, physical aggression. Same with being in a car. You can cut someone off in traffic, or not use a turn signal, or blow through a stop sign, and as long as the cops don't catch you, all you have to deal with from the person you pissed off is maybe a car horn. They can't tell you what their problem with you is because you'll be long gone. They can engage in road rage, but that's extremely dangerous for both you and themselves, and as angry as you might make them, 99% of them still don't want to put you, or themselves, in the hospital or worse.

[@KendrixTermina]

Trains & trams share the main advantage of cars over biking & walking: It's not tiring & you're not exposed to the elements. So even if you're feeling lazy, even if the weather is horrible, or if you're super old or disabled, it will do. Heck, a train or tram lets you be even lazier than a car, because you need not pay attention to the road, and you can take it while drunk or high (though I'm all for kicking out drunk/high ppl who acts out & bother other passengers) The car still has some advantages in lower densities (where tram or bus every 10 mins isn't feasible) or when you travel uncommon routes or with big hauls, but if we go from "everyone owns a car" to "ppl rent an electric car the 3 times a year that they really need it" or "only hobby car enthusiasts and rural people in cow villages have electric cars" that's already a huge reduction in carbon.

[@frenkzors]

Great video, but one major factor that often gets overlooked is not only the carbon cost of getting the rare earth materials and the lithium is the geopolitical aspect of it. The countries that have large deposits of these materials are largely located in the global south, and powerful countries spend incredible amounts of resources to keep those countries in a state of disruption or dependance. Obvious examples is how the US treats much of the South American countries, with assholes like Musk basically "calling" for a coup, just to keep lithium prices down. Its not only about the carbon output, but the real, human cost of these practices and industries that literally exploit people in other countries to make their products.

[@bubberlad]

that is true, but on the other hand the geopolitical and environmental costs related to obtaining, processing and transporting petrol is also often overlooked in these "are electic cars really greener than ICEs?" type of comparisons. both are shit either way.

[@frenkzors]

@@bubberlad Its not really an "on the other hand" arguement :) Its both. Both are shit in their current implementation. Im just pointiing out a real but often neglected or underappreciated reason as to why. Also, technocrats suck and wont save us and all that jazz lmao

[@bubberlad]

@@frenkzors yes i meant as in it goes both ways. it wasn't meant to be a point against yours. i agree that both of them suck, and that it is laughable to imagine that we will simply "tech" our way out of our unsustainable ways of living

[@deanc9453]

+

[@alanmay7929]

@@bubberlad you realise that fossil fuels/oil is what makes the world run right?! There are litteraly millions of oil by-products from car tires to road tar to cable insulation, fertilisers, medical equipments, drugs, fuel for aircrafts, agricultural, construction and mining machines/equipments and ships.

[@penciltamaraart]

I once used the train to travel, but I changed when my ride started to be always late or canceled. Trains in my country zone need more efficient management and maintenance. Also, train stations must be made more accessible; there's no use in traveling by train if I have to ride the car to get to the station.

[@ThePcHelperdude]

same. (america) option 1: drive to your destination (20 minutes) option 2: drive to the train depot (10 minutes in the opposite direction) and take the train to your destination (30 minutes) option 3: take the bus to the train depot (40 minutes) and take the train to your destination (30 minutes)

[@theredscourge]

And if you have to do more than 1 transfer to or from a bus, in many cases you're better off walking 5km than riding 5km, which means we might as well say to hell with it and standardize on mopeds or...cars

[@Kirbychu1]

Also safety. Lots of people are literally afraid to take the ones around here because of all the drug addicts

[@justanotheryoutubechannel]

It’s somewhat true where I live, I’ll usually take the train to London as driving there is genuinely slower and worse than using the train, but it’s ridiculously expensive and nowhere near reliable enough for me to use to commute to the next town over twice a day for example, and the experience is just not good enough, I don’t think I’ve ever ridden a train that actually turned up on time… They need to be faster, cheaper, and more reliable, with modernised train stations so it doesn’t look like it hasn’t been maintained in the last 50 years (which to be honest my local station in a near-city-sized town probably hasn’t, considering the bridges are the same as the ones we had since the 1800’s.)

[@FUUUUU1111]

Trains in Russia come 5 minutes late in the worst scenario. Usually they go right by the schedule. Never thought they can be delayed like here in Europe. That’s crazy.

[@heatdeath1992]

in case anyone was wondering, the track playing at 8:17 is saint pepsi - pineapple juniors c:

[@tcniatcniatcnia]

tysm

[@schwinkle716]

Thanks!

[@conors4430]

It’s not even sustainability thing. The amount of money wasted on petrol and time, waiting in traffic jams, the amount of taxes you pay to maintain roads that are constantly being destroyed by insane amounts of traffic or bad weather, when other forms of collective transportation exist that move much more people, much more quickly, much more cheaply per person, that can be maintained more efficiently and less expensively. But no, the culture now revolves around, I am an individual and I want to have my cake and eat it too. I want to live far enough away from everyone that I do, and don’t require a car, I also don’t want to drive on shitty roads or wait in traffic jams, but I also don’t want my city to prioritise better You public transport over my decision to prioritise using a car. The fact is people know what they want, but they don’t know why they want it and they want contradictory things without ever realising that their choices or their lifestyle or their inability to compromise is the fucking problem. The individual wants what they want, and what they don’t want, is to have to consider anybody else in their decision-making. it’s one of the genius of car propaganda, it has been so completely spliced, with an idea of independence and freedom, that people will defend it to the hilt, even if it means paying more money in associated costs, spending more time waiting around, pay more taxes, maintaining roads and spending more at the doctor because you’re constantly on your arse.

[@CowBeatsCrow]

That was the most intense train montage I've ever seen

[@filiaaut]

Funnily enough, some of the footage is probably pretty old, the original orange livery for the TGV was used on the experimental trains, and then throughout the 1980s and early 1990s, the trains were then gradually repainted, the last set operating under the orange livery did so in 2001.

[@chiararosati2162]

Never thought trains could be so badass with JoJo music, gotta love them even more

[@Gahanun]

Train: "This is... Requiem" * reshapes reality so that businesses trying to stop trains go bankrupt over and over as trains become the dominant form of transport. *

[@IndustrialParrot2816]

now what about high effiency carbon-neutral modern steam locomotives (yes they exist South African Railways Red devil is one of them)

[@DaDARKPass]

WEEB! FILTHY WEEB!

[@pranavghantasala6808]

Speaking of badass trains, have you ever heard of Might Gaine? If not, I would be delighted to introduce you: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5CzmY1tmLh3oKs

[@IndustrialParrot2816]

@@pranavghantasala6808 yuck thats not conventional rail throw it in the trash

[@smurftums]

A traffic jam is a traffic jam, regardless of the fuel the vehicles are using.

[@Pushing_Pixels]

The stupidest thing about the "car-centric culture" that has sprung up since WWII is using trucks for long haul freight. It's a huge industry in my country thanks to government refusing to invest in rail, letting rail infrastructure deteriorate, and even decommissioning perfectly good rail lines. It's so dumb, so inefficient, so unnecessary. Trucks should only be used for last mile trips from rail freight centres and ports. There's no reason for trucks to be driving hundreds of miles and back, just to carry what one rail car could for a fraction of the price.

[@rachel8089]

Learning about these topics has made me realize how big of a problem poor infrastructure, transportation and planning actually is, yet not many people are willing to change; it’s just so built into *mainly US* culture and is hard to recover from

[@wmoros4902]

Cars control us more than we control cars at this point

[@hansonel]

The US is a car based consumer culture. And unfortunately we've been the "model" for developing nations to copy. Not good IMO

[@awebuser5914]

It's all about DISTANCE. Nutcases like this guy completely miss the point that North American distances are absolutely colossal compared to Europe, Asia, etc. His entire rant about dense urban planning utterly and completely misses the point that in the US, Canada and other large countries, there is ZERO "space pressure", we have the luxury to expand into quiet, spacious urban environments because we CAN. Given a choice, spacious suburban development will always be the preference for families. There is absolutely nothing fundamentally "wrong" with suburban development, IF the infrastructure and space is available to support it. Much more attention is now being placed on efficient and effective suburban planning, which will obviously help. The nonsense about power "transmission losses" in suburban areas is comically stupid. Those losses would be measured in hundredths of a percent.

[@rachel8089]

@@awebuser5914 Even with great distance available, using up large amounts of it unnecessarily is wasteful. Planning should make smaller areas as efficient as possible while saving resources, with long-term thinking. This also deals with the layout of suburban areas and the transportation available (like a lack of bike and/or walking paths). It doesn’t have to include opposite ends of a country but pulling together closer parts of it would be beneficial. I do agree that there’s nothing “wrong” with suburban development if given careful attention; the problem is when it isn’t given careful attention, as commonly seen in some neighborhoods.

[@awebuser5914]

@@rachel8089 Yep, at least in Canada, there is now a significant amount of planning that goes into suburban layouts; parks, shopping, services, schools, bike/walking paths.

[@PhilomathWizard]

I used to live in Brazil in a regular city, not huge like São Paulo or Rio but not tiny like a village, and Brazil has a very interesting aspect to it: Poverty makes the country accidentally bend into more "communal" values. Not everyone can afford a car, not everyone wants a car, so most people use the bus, and where I lived I could walk 15 minutes and get to the supermarket, on the way there I would see stores of all kinds, so I didn't need to get in a car and move around. Now that I moved to the US my life is so much more miserable because I have to get in a car to go anywhere, I can't walk, I have to fucking drive, I hate driving, its so inefficient. Everywhere is far, most places are just huge parking lots, and tiny shopping areas, bro why. Also, me when train: 😫😫😩😩😩 💗

[@MrMarinus18]

And the atomization is now amplified massively due to the internet.

[@snflwrchan8019]

@@chooseyouhandle Not really, cars have been increasing even in rural areas so traffic is starting to get bad here. The reason for that is car dealers found a way to lure people with "low" advance payments and "low" monthly payments so even those that couldn't afford a car before can suddenly "afford" one now.

[@ilghiz]

Car addicted Americans keep telling me "you can go anywhere with your car". Funnily, with infinite parking lots and traffic jams there's nowhere else to go.

[@williamevans9709]

@@ilghizabsolutely. Cars are the least efficient. They represent a tragedy of the commons scenario

[@pmlb7715]

What you described about Brazil is the way people has always lived for millennia. We are made to live like that, it's essential for a minimum of quality of life. And for that reason, no matter how wealthy you are, living like most people live in the US is unsatisfying and alienating on a fundamental, existential level.

[@Aloyz3n]

based on title I was expecting: "YoU eMiT Co2 wHeN tHe BaTeRiE iS pRoDuCeD, sO pEtRoL BetTeR" kind of video, but I now leave it informed, good stuff

[@MattyAviation]

He kinda said this but instead of opting to stick with gas or what the british "people" call petrol, he said we should make transit better. I agree with him and you

[@Moosemoose1]

Above ground and underground metros for cities, trams and trolleys for suburbs and small towns, small train lines for intra-campus transportation in industrial areas and long distance railways for intercity/cross-country travel and freight transport. Trains can do it all. To the urban car absolutists who think cars are freedom I ask you this question: what freedom do you have when you're stuck in traffic every single day?

[@theatheistpaladin]

Alternate title: All Cars Are Bad, Yes Even Electric Ones Too. Adds a new meaning to ACAB.

[@Bertuzz84]

Lmao

[@coastaku1954]

Not all cars are bad, cars are great fun IF you know how to have fun with them, however I do agree that urban areas and cars don't mix well at all

[@bubberlad]

@@coastaku1954 things that can bring individuals joy can still be bad.

[@coastaku1954]

@@bubberlad Come on, you don’t look at Car racing and say “Oh wow that’s terrible”

[@bubberlad]

@@coastaku1954 that's not what i'm saying. i've been watching f1 for decades now and yes it is fun. but we have to make compromises on "fun" things (maybe not motorsports, but private car ownership) to make way for a sustainable world that the rest of the world can also have fun in. so yes, cars are fun and cars are also bad.

[@zeruiahwild1]

As a car enthusiast I will always love and want a car in my life, however I am in enormous support of sustainability and will always support rail and public infrastructure over highways, this is to benefit the planet obviously but also it benefits the people who have a car that was passed down to them or it is simply their passion. I love your videos and keep up the awesome work, as much as it hurts from a car enthusiast stand point I am all for it when it comes to my future and one day my family's future.

[@razam6608]

True, I also see the car more as a "toy" for leisure and fun. Something to be useed on weekends to drive to the lake withe friendsand family. Not as an efficient pragmatic mode of every day transport for commuters.

[@someguy2135]

What is more effective for each of us than buying an EV? Go vegan! "Eating a vegan diet could be the “single biggest way” to reduce your environmental impact on earth, a new study suggests. Researchers at the University of Oxford found that cutting meat and dairy products from your diet could reduce an individual's carbon footprint from food by up to 73 per cent. If everyone stopped eating these foods, they found that global farmland use could be reduced by 75 per cent, an area equivalent to the size of the US, China, Australia and the EU combined. Not only would this result in a significant drop in greenhouse gas emissions, it would also free up wild land lost to agriculture, one of the primary causes for mass wildlife extinction. The new study, published in the journal Science, is one of the most comprehensive analyses to date, looking into the detrimental effects farming can have on the environment and included data on nearly 40,000 farms in 119 countries." -The Independent" newspaper Link to the full article at my channel under "About."

[@Nerobyrne]

I hope that one day, a personal car is like a motorcycle or a horse. Something only enthusiasts have, but you don't need for daily life.

[@kedyfab3195]

I would use trains more than highways even if i had my dream car. You know, the traffic, gas prices, making your vehicle more damaged by overdriving and so on.

[@demoniack81]

@@someguy2135 Bullshit, the single biggest way to reduce your impact is supporting nuclear power and convincing others to do the same. This idea of individual people's choices making such a massive contribution is ridiculous, it's just not true. The entire concept of a "carbon footprint" was popularized by a marketing campaign from BP. Yes, _that_ BP, British Petroleum. They do this because they want _you_ to feel responsible for climate change and pollution so you'll blame yourself instead of blaming _them_ for their decades of corruption and lobbying. The majority of global emissions (over 60%) come from heating and power generation. Livestock is only responsible for 6%. Even _cars_ and _planes_ make a fairly pitiful contribution, at around 6% and 2% respectively. Telling people that they need to stop eating cheese to stop climate change is like telling them they need to buy lots of scissors to mow their lawn. It's ridiculous and it's just not going to work. What we need to do is start building nuclear reactors *yesterday* and not stop until the power grid is 100% carbon free. In fact we should continue going further, and use the excess power to make synthetic fuels for aviation and road transport via carbon capture. Yes, those synthetic fuels will be more expensive than fossil alternatives. We'll just have to deal with it.

[@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty]

Making cars electric was never the problem, in fact it was a good change for the car industry. The prevalence of cars in our society is the problem. Cars being our primary mode of transportation is the problem. Giant roads cutting through cities (to put cars on) is the problem. People living in rural areas, outside metros, etc...yeah, they have a legitimate reason to own a vehicle. Really not a problem owning an EV out on your ranch. What IS a problem is just...the size of cars. The fact that you need big asphalt roads to put these big metal boxes on...yeah, that's the problem. If your city has even half-decent urban planning and public transit, you have no reason to own a car. It's just that simple.

[@Egghead012]

The lithium they use in electric cars is harmful to the environment and it never degrades like gasoline does.

[@razzor4708]

Nope, eFuels made by Porsche is cheaper and more reliable for already existing infrastructure across globe and existing car platforms. We didn't vote, or asked for EV's. its pure political dicatroship.

[@kylegonewild]

For roughly 2 years I was spoiled at the end of my college program. A new light rail extension had finally completed work allowing one of the main lines to extend all the way outside the city proper to the large university in the outer metro. We could come to campus, park in one of the multi-story lots then take the catwalk over the highway to the rail station. From there you could get within spitting distance of every area of note in the metro and city serviced by rail and bus. The campus had its own shuttle line as well that was free. We could show up early before traffic got bad, leave the car tucked out of the way some 50ft in the air. Walk across the street to the greenway, take the greenway onto campus grounds, then catch a shuttle to the nearest stop of where I needed to go. After class and work, same shuttle back out to the street station or across campus to the on-campus station, train into downtown, walk to the pub or speakeasy. Now I live in suburban hell and I'm desperately planning my escape back either to a nice urban area in the NE or a rural area near where I grew up. I hate this kind of traffic and clutter. A bunch of carbon copy tinderboxes (in an area known for fires mind you) smashed together and overpriced with streets choking the area between.

[@KRDD-KMHR]

I’m a commercial pilot. Against my best interests, we need trains ASAP

[@PacificDark]

Do you think airships can be a viable alternative to travel legs under 200 miles?

[@KRDD-KMHR]

@@PacificDark Maybe, I don’t really know much about airship projects. I think smaller commuter electric planes are an alternative. Cape Air just bought 75 or so electric planes, the problem is that we need high density travel. The more people a single vehicle can carry the more carbon efficient it is.

[@murphy7801]

Thing about zeplins the actually get more efficient larger you make them. Unlike planes. So not sure zeplins for short trips is a good idea. Pros are definitely strap solar panels to the top

[@BeKindToBirds]

@@PacificDark No. The reason being is lighter than air craft are extremely vulnerable to the weather. They are good for cruising but not a very good reliable transportation system. Additionally helium is very expensive already. The shorter the journey the less viable they become, the more they are affected by local weather patterns. And weather is only getting more extreme. Airships have economic viability only as long range cruisers for pleasure. They could displace some airlines for a slower and gentler travel but they are far from sky trains. I am only touching on the many many reasons why it isn't very viable but the summary is a certain No.

[@alwehdathebestfc3576]

Who said we would use helium hydrogen is fine… 🔥

[@pozitroncz8679]

Cars are very ineffective in terms of energy. I do not know about the US but in Europe one car is occupied by average by 1.2 person. So to move 1.2 person (120 kg) you have to put in motion another 1500 - 2000 kg of metal. And it costs huge amount of energy. It's not important if you take this energy from gas or battery - the energy still must be somehow produced.

[@callmeswivelhips8229]

This is an excellent argument put into easy to understand terminology.

[@Phoenix898989]

Yes and average bike it's like ~12kg. Car is worst possible option for commuting.

[@Jacksparrow4986]

@@Phoenix898989 I guess you're from the us? Here in Europe bikes are usually heavier.

[@Phoenix898989]

@@Jacksparrow4986 Nah, I'm from Europe. Well maybe not 12kg more like 15-17kg. I'm road bike guy so I go over optimistic :D BTW: e-bikes > electric car

[@alanmay7929]

Fortunately cars/vehicles in Europe are significantly smaller and way more efficient compared to american vehicles. In Europe there are no huge f150 pick-up truck or chevy suburbs or cadillac escale, in Europe there are smart, toyota yaris, vw up, golf......

[@Lazuriteplays]

I was NOT expecting an RCR reference, hit me from the top ropes!

[@LauraBow]

Imagine Being out of milk for breakfast and just going downstairs to the grocery real fast. No seriously why isn't that the norm??

[@andynorvell4953]

Because l dont wanna live like a sardine.. people cramped on top of each other..most here like their own land and home..

[@LauraBow]

@@andynorvell4953 Then go get stuck in a traffic jam and leave the rest of us alone.

[@andynorvell4953]

​@@LauraBow..l live in a rural area..traffic jam is very sedom a problem..plus l enjoy driving..

[@oliverparker425]

@@andynorvell4953 Then why are you trying to dictate how cities build there infrastructure

[@andynorvell4953]

@@oliverparker425 ..lm not trying to dictate anything..peeps in cities can live how the hell they want..that is their prob not mine..

[@ZackN85]

I own a seven year old small, short range electric car. I agree 100% with this video, with the exception that I think parking lots are worse than highways. (Though both are terrible.) Everyone could drive the same kind of car as me and it would solve almost none of the problems created by cars. Tailpipe emissions are, like, the 74th worst thing about cars. Unnecessary death certainly ranks higher. Gobbling up 60%+ of the surface area of your city ranks higher. Garages rank higher. Unwalkability ranks higher. Destruction of serendipitous discovery of local places ranks higher. Etc.

[@gramathy999]

Neighborhood parking and denser parking options (multilevel garages rater than lots, which would ALSO have an advantage of keeping sun off cars and reducing power draw of air conditioning when you get back in your car in hot areas, and any power requirements for the garage can be met with solar on top and some batteries to power LED lights inside.

[@Jacksparrow4986]

@@gramathy999 have fun paying for that. It does solve a few problems of the car but also makes it uneconomical (if it wasn't before).

[@gramathy999]

@@Jacksparrow4986 Cars are already unsustainable in the long term. Consolidated parking allows for more walkable areas and reduces congestion as people aren't trying to drive from A to B to C etc. Plenty of smaller towns are already doing similar things.

[@Banom7a]

I think, it's in a way like recycle, just to make yourself feel good even though the first of 3R is to reduce and reuse before recycle.

[@takanara7]

No, the tailpipe emissions are the problem.

[@julbot1]

Trains are definitely the go-to for mass-transit; for the alternative to personal transportation, making the use of smaller electric carts and bikes more widespread would be good. In a mountain town my uncle lives, near everyone living there uses golf cart type vehicles to get around the place rather than using their full-size cars. These still satisfy the want for personal transportation, are far lighter, and are much more compact.

[@Myke_thehuman]

You forgot about the fact that a TON of people will not be happy unless they are driving there loudest most toxic vehicle possible. I am surrounded by those assholes so yes it's nice that a solution exists. It's just too bad that no one gives a damn.

[@VestedUTuber]

@@Myke_thehuman You'll run into people like that everywhere. But honestly, they're a minority. Plus you wouldn't have to put up with those people bitching about taking a train because they wouldn't be taking the train to begin with. As a separate note, just make sure the people you're calling assholes actually are assholes. Car enthusiasts often get lumped in with fart-can ricers, status symbol supercar buyers and rollin' coal bro-truckers by the general public, because the general public doesn't know better to understand the difference. So if someone has an obnoxiously loud car or truck but they don't look like they're specifically trying to be obnoxious, they may just be a hobbyist who enjoys working on and/or driving cars recreationally. At that point it's no different from someone who rides bikes recreationally or gardens or builds model railroads or makes and wears custom costumes.

[@litestuffllc7249]

A simple form of "mass transit" is a carpool. If you simply put 4-8 people per vehicle - you remove 75% of vehicles from the commute and all the associated CO2 - if people really believed that CO2 is killing the planet they would right ? but they are not - so I have to conclude they don't believe it or they don't care.

[@VestedUTuber]

@@litestuffllc7249 It's not that they don't care so much as they don't want to be the first to make the effort. It's basically the bystander effect, everyone expects someone else to step in first.

[@ci6516]

This is a silly solution . This video advocates tearing up every street and highway , and putting rails everywhere across America in every city , every suburb , all connected , all with stops . Are you kidding me ?? That would take a century of work and hundred of trillions of dollars and tons of co2 with all the heavy construction machinery . This is such a fantasy . I’m not sure why it’s hard for people to ask themselves “what can we do in REALITY” Car pooling is much simpler solution . But nooooo, you gotta burn down and recreate civilization to achieve a goal ?? You’ll never get anywhere thinking like this. We’re already speaking of people not owning cars and having autonomous cars working as ubers. The solution is so much simpler than you think . No need to destroy our country and recreate it.

[@jodyssey9921]

Autonomous cars will be like parking, there'll need to be at least 4 times as many cars as needed to handle the peak times. Terrible idea.

[@cal1953]

I love DO Not Eat's Delivery on the "it's trains" line

[@markiangooley]

Interesting that the U. S. has arguably the best freight rail system in the world, but it’s the lack of good passenger rail that gets so many people’s knickers in a twist. (Yes, we’re still depending too much on trucks. Oh, and I think it’s less cars causing damage to the roads and more trucks. There are some roads in national parks that rarely require re-paving despite fairly heavy seasonal traffic, because almost all the traffic is regular cars and almost none is freight trucks.)

[@wmoros4902]

It's just massively overshadowed by huge highways systems which is much easier to commute sadly

[@avroarchitect1793]

@@wmoros4902 the US highway system was a national defence project to ensure the US would always be logisticly connected together. As ww2 showed rail makes for a good military (and now terrorist) target.

[@andrewlucia865]

@@avroarchitect1793 Regarding your last sentence, roads aren't better at resisting those sort of attacks. Bomb a road hard enough, or god forbid, blow up a major bridge, and roads are just as vulnerable to disruption as rails would be, in that sense.

[@weaksause6878]

Its lack of planning. I bring this up regularly and people are quick to mention how dependent our society has become on 'just in time' shipments. Trucks can get it there in a day and trains will likely take 3. Okay so, run your business by buying the shit 3 days earlier, wtf. Its really not that difficult.

[@joesterling4299]

Even the best trains can't get me from my doorstep to the grocery store in 10 minutes.

[@alfredio]

ironic, "the future" actually means return to XIXth century invention

[@asterix71c]

The car is a XIXth century invention.

[@VestedUTuber]

@@asterix71c Fun fact - 19th century cars were either steam or battery electric. Petroleum-based fuel wasn't popularized until the early 20th.

[@northamericanvanlines]

as with plastic

[@TheGardenStater]

@@VestedUTuber Today I learned... :)

[@nixl3518]

@@asterix71c Correct!! The train is XIIV!!

[@RamblingJosh]

I just wanted to say that I never knew how much my life needed a transit video with a jojo musical interlude in the middle

[@andrewreynolds912]

Hey Alan don't forget that cars tires rubber also makes small micro particals when they wear down, the YT channel fully charged did show this and talked about what are the solutions for that and how it affects our health and almost no one talks about it

[@Marconius6]

"Hey Joe, this is a really cool train we're designing here." "I know! You think anyone will ever set it to the Jojo theme?" "What?" "What?"

[@vivid_prizm]

I’m glad it wasn’t just me who heard it

[@tfae]

Between this and the Vulfpeck, I have great respect for this guy's taste.

[@maximilianwimmer627]

the audio clip is i think from Justin Rozniak out of donoteat01 and WTYP Well Theres Your Problem. cant remember which original episode though.

[@chase21514]

I’m a big car guy and people are always confused when they find out I’m also a train guy and big advocate for public transit. First off car guys and gals are in the minority in terms of overall motorists. So getting the majority of people off the roads means less traffic and a better driving experience. Second off if you can reliably get anywhere through public transit you don’t need a daily driver and can use all that garage space for your shitbox project cars!

[@youraveragejdmenthusiast430]

Agreeing and less dents to the rarer crapboxes

[@youraveragejdmenthusiast430]

And also some concider driving as a chore, so everybody wins!

[@someguy2135]

More effective than buying an EV would be to go vegan. "Eating a vegan diet could be the “single biggest way” to reduce your environmental impact on earth, a new study suggests. Researchers at the University of Oxford found that cutting meat and dairy products from your diet could reduce an individual's carbon footprint from food by up to 73 per cent. If everyone stopped eating these foods, they found that global farmland use could be reduced by 75 per cent, an area equivalent to the size of the US, China, Australia and the EU combined. Not only would this result in a significant drop in greenhouse gas emissions, it would also free up wild land lost to agriculture, one of the primary causes for mass wildlife extinction. The new study, published in the journal Science, is one of the most comprehensive analyses to date, looking into the detrimental effects farming can have on the environment and included data on nearly 40,000 farms in 119 countries." -The Independent" newspaper Link to the full article at my channel under "About."

[@jjbarajas5341]

@@someguy2135 I don't know that going vegan is feasible for everyone to do so at once. A more realistic goal would be to reduce how much meat, and meat from cows in particular, people eat. In this way, every fast food place save Chic-fil-a is a huge problem; people have forgotten that red meat has always been a luxury. McDonald's burgers are cheap, but the true price is the damage to our environment and the slaughter of billions of animals. Imo fast food burger places should switch to synthetic meat.

[@someguy2135]

@@jjbarajas5341 We agree that cows are the most destructive type of animal raised for food production. That includes dairy. Not only is dairy the most cruel form of animal agriculture, it also requires cows and other ruminants. They produce methane which is 80 times more potent than CO2 in the first 20 years. It then dissipate, but not for about 100 years total. "While the wildfires raging in the Amazon rainforest may constitute an “international crisis,” they are hardly an accident. The vast majority of the fires have been set by loggers and ranchers to clear land for cattle. The practice is on the rise, encouraged by Jair Bolsonaro, Brazil’s populist pro-business president, who is backed by the country’s so-called “beef caucus.” While this may be business as usual for Brazil’s beef farmers, the rest of the world is looking on in horror. So, for those wondering how they could help save the rainforest, known as “the planet’s lungs” for producing about 20% of the world’s oxygen, the answer may be simple. Eat less meat." -CNN

[@Devin-_-]

What about service workers? I'm an electrician and I travel 100+ miles a day just going to different job sites with a shit ton of materials.

[@birchtree5884]

Get a car. There will always be scenarios like yours where a personal vehicle is necessary. But there are many scenarios where using a private vehicle shouldn't be a necessity, but people use one anyways because there are no viable alternatives.

[@leonpaelinck]

Those are actual work vehicles. Most of personal transportation is done by car but could easily be done by train, bike walking... if the urban area was properly designed

[@TumblinWeeds]

I still remember the first moment I realized that the carpool lanes in my city are almost always empty even in rush hour. By bringing me along, my mom was able to get ahead of 99% of traffic. And I turned to see that all those massive SUV’s on the streets screaming at the congested traffic, they were all holding a single fat Canadian and their 5 office papers. We have extensive bus networks. But everyone strives to get their own car asap because it’s seen as a rite of passage to adulthood. As a child for some reason I always thought cars would be full. A standard car would carry 3-5 people, and it wouldn’t be nearly as good as a bus but it’s passable. Seeing all those empty cars broke my heart.

[@Nyatascha4510]

Finally some one gives trains the proper entrance they deserve. (It was pretty cool)

[@TheGardenStater]

Yeah, what song was that? I played the songs in the video description and didn't hear it.

[@Nyatascha4510]

@@TheGardenStater It's "Jojo's bizarre Adventure: Golden Wind"

[@natigalindez1812]

@@TheGardenStater The specific song could be found if you type golden wind finale ost. The part you hear in this vid is toward the end of the song.

[@completeepicness5070]

This doesn’t even take Into account that metro systems are the coolest mode of transportation

[@ChemySh]

unless you live in flood-prone areas. Or most probably, your local city officials are too feckless to manage the budget properly, if they even got it built at all considering the cost of tunneling alone. man, at this point I'd be okay with overground metros, roads are already noisy after all, what's one more giant hunk of metal will do to my eardrums?

[@Yorick257]

​@@ChemySh I lived next to a railroad for a while and I'll say a good modern electric train is actually quite quiet (at least if it's up to 5 cars long, that's what we have here), I never even noticed them because of a constant flow of cars

[@spacedoutorca4550]

And a great mugging experience

[@barathrajkumar5564]

@@ChemySh There is a overhead metro station right next to my house, no sound

[@tomasz4705]

@@ChemySh That's how Cracow exist. 770k inhabitants including me, but no metro, never beacuse governers of citt are just lazy. Warsaw (Poland's capital, 1,7 million inhabitants) has developed first metro line in 1990s!

[@Loganl1980]

I live way out in rural Montana, and I’ll never buy another gas vehicle. I can charge off my solar, never need to buy gas again.

[@Hobbytrem]

That blue caboose behind the locomotive seemed to be a former Conrail one.

[@DankGank]

People want to feel like they are reducing their impact on the environment without actually changing the way they live their lives. Moving to electric cars will help the environment about as much as washing the dishes with cold water. Which is to say not much.

[@CRAZYMUGMAN]

infact, electirc cars are worse for the enviorment than gas cause it takes more resources to make electirc cars.

[@MikeB3542]

@@CRAZYMUGMAN I'm pretty sure you made that up. Most of the vehicle is made from the same stuff....plastics, steel, rubber, aluminum, glass. The difference is with the engine and drivetrain. In an ICE vehicle, you have the engine and transmission; in an EV, batteries and electric motors. So DIFFERENT resources are needed to build the EV. Yes, lithium mining is awful...but you are being pretty selective in your outrage if you ignore every other mine...iron ore, coal, limestone, bauxite...needed to make the iron or aluminum engine and transmission. Even if the EV used more resources to build (initial cost), the ICE consumes way more resources every day it's on the road. That's true even if 100% of your power comes from coal.

[@Shrouded_reaper]

@@CRAZYMUGMAN This is a stupid cuckservative talking point. Much of the resources are more or less the same, you are basically swapping a giant chunk of metal and oil for a giant battery. The batteries are absolutely 100% recycled all the time so long as they aren't damaged beyond repair and even then usually enterprising people take them apart and remove the good cells. People are paying 10-20k for a used Tesla battery for home/off grid storage and other applications, you think scrapyards just throw that shit in the landfill?

[@Co-km6cl]

@@CRAZYMUGMAN OVer the whole product life time an electric car is much better. But still cars are part of the problem not the solution.

[@heeholee216]

I just dont wanna drive a car that has a literal shock bomb attached to it

[@nw42]

The thing people don't mention enough about walkable cities is the sense of *freedom* they provide. People always associate cars with freedom... and sure, if that's what you grew up with, that's how you'll feel. It's how I felt, until I finally moved to a walkable area. But once it sinks in that you can just step out your door and buy a thing of milk, or grab a coffee, or go to a restaurant, or pick up something from the pharmacy, or unwind at the park, it totally changes your perspective. Walking is _the_ mode of transportation innate to humans, and the simple ability to go about your daily life under your own power is liberating on a fundamental level. Walkable cities also reveal more subtle effects which cars have on our lives. For example, spending an hour in a grocery store loading up a massive cart and being miserable is what makes sense when you need to drive several miles to buy food. But when you only need to walk several _minutes_ to the store, it becomes almost effortless to make quick trips to pick up a handful of items. And it enlarges how you see your environment, with all the nearby shops and amenities feeling more like an extension of your home. The park down the street feels almost like my yard. I still have a car, and I still use a car: sometimes I want to go for a drive, or I really do want to buy a cart full of groceries, or I'm just feeling lazy. But I rarely _need_ to use it, and that's just an amazing feeling.

[@YeeLeeHaw]

We're not just restricted to walking and bicycling these days, there are plenty of personal electric vehicles to use that for someone in my case is a Godsend since I cannot walk and especially bicycle for very long due to injuries. So unless your corrupt boomer gov hasn't banned them they can add freedom for everybody that wouldn't be possible before, and also help fill in the gaps that trains can't cover.

[@nw42]

@@YeeLeeHaw I have somewhat mixed feelings on personal electric vehicles (though it’s not exactly their fault…) The area I’m in is quite walkable, but it’s not perfect. In particular, there’s a lack of bike lanes-or rather, there’s a shoulder which _could_ be a bike lane, but in practice is street parking. This has led to people on electric bikes (especially teens) riding on the sidewalk-which I suspect some parents encourage out of safety concerns. It hasn’t gotten too bad yet, but it’s an accident waiting to happen, and it’s made me a little wary about personal electric vehicles _in my particular area._ I think the short-term solution here is traffic enforcement: primarily of speeding cars to make the streets safer for bikes, and secondarily of the electric bikes themselves. But, I don’t really know.

[@YeeLeeHaw]

@@nw42 We don't need more laws, we got too many laws dictating our free movement for no reason; do not give them an inch. It's the cars and trucks that needs to go as they are the ones killing people, then it's nothing but common sense and riding carefully among others, if some can't do that they belong in jail.

[@Synchromesh123]

What a bunch of bull. I live in a very walkable city (San Francisco). Yes, do you get all of the stuff which is convenient, I'll give you that. But there are tons of downsides too. Biggest one - crime. Where there's people there's increased crime. You're far more likely to get robbed/stabbed/run over in a city. And yes, I've gotten robbed before. The public transportation sucks too with all the people packed into a big tin can like sardines. I bet you always thought bicycling is awesome... well, I got news for you - our bicycling lobby is extremely efficient so bicyclists basically follow no rules as they equate themselves to both cars and pedestrians whenever it suits them. I've gotten nearly run over by the bicycle salmon multiple times. They blow through street light, ignore stop signs, damage cars , block traffic and basically do whatever you want without any reprimand. I bet OP would be proud. Then there's packs of kids walking around all over the place smoking pot and hitting random cars. I live across a kindergarten which means constant noise pollution during hours of operation. I can keep going but you get the picture. It's far from the rosy concept you're trying to see here. It's a major escape for me to get behind the wheel of my sports car and leave this place even if for a day.

[@YeeLeeHaw]

@@Synchromesh123 _"I live in a very walkable city (San Francisco). Yes, do you get all of the stuff which is convenient, I'll give you that. But there are tons of downsides too. Biggest one - crime"_ That's a San Francisco issue, that's not because it's easier to walk there. _"You're far more likely to get robbed/stabbed/run over in a city"_ Again, you're connecting dots that aren't supposed to be connected. And what do you mean with run over? aren't you arguing for our point with that? _"The public transportation sucks too with all the people packed into a big tin can like sardines."_ *Your* public transportation sucks, that's not an inherent theme for all public transportation. _" I bet you always thought bicycling is awesome... well, I got news for you - our bicycling lobby is extremely efficient so bicyclists basically follow no rules as they equate themselves to both cars and pedestrians whenever it suits them."_ That's a car problem, cars, trucks, and busses are by far the most dangerous vehicles and they also take up by far the most space, space that could've been used to separate pedestrians and other personal transportation vehicles. _"They blow through street light, ignore stop signs, damage cars , block traffic and basically do whatever you want without any reprimand."_ Yet again, the car is a common theme in your problems, but you refuse to acknowledge that it's the car that is the problem. _"Then there's packs of kids walking around all over the place smoking pot and hitting random cars."_ Cars again lol. Also a San Francisco issue. _"I live across a kindergarten which means constant noise pollution during hours of operation."_ Hmm, cars? _"I can keep going but you get the picture."_ I don't think he does considering your argument is all over the place.

[@StudioNama]

Man's really brought the trains in with JoJo... What a lad.