Live sound edition by drum-tec takes the mimic pro to the next level
@dreamdrummer018 ай бұрын
In terms of look and feel I’m impressed, the dynamics are also impresive. But when I saw him playing it was obvious that it has a significant learning curve. He is an amazing player as we saw him trying to fit in with the song, but some hits weren’t that loud as they sounded. Great tool but definetely not a plug and play. Great video!
@nicktayloradventures8 ай бұрын
I'd take a drum cage and acoustic drums over this all day long!
@davediaz17428 ай бұрын
This is actually less for drummers and more for the church. SO YOU TAKE WHAT THE CHURCH GIVES!!
@Dan_the_Great_8 ай бұрын
@@davediaz1742a lot of drummers today are endorsed. So they bring their own kit and use it. And the down side of these electric kit is the hi hat. They don’t react like they should, especially for Roland. And to get a better Roland hi hat it is basically as much as a cymbal pack
@HaxStudio7 ай бұрын
Good for you, I guess?
@huubdrums3 ай бұрын
@@davediaz1742the church 😂😂😂
@TinoSchulz19908 ай бұрын
I feel like 2024 will become the year of e-drums (again). Felt like the past years there really wasn't a ton of new stuff out there. Now companies keep spitting out new trigger-ideas, new soundmodules. I'm excited
@verythorough5118 ай бұрын
You can actually monitor your in-ear mix from the drum brain in stereo which is amazing. Our drummer loves mixing his drums in his ears in stereo and the sound guy loves getting the direct outs separate from each other. We use presonus qmix to mix his in-ear mix and boom.
@phileoness8 ай бұрын
Man, that’s me too. I love playing with rim shots. It’s a dream kit
@notforyoutube4 ай бұрын
Wow this video is a whole other level. This drum kit sounds very high end.
@EricFDrums3 ай бұрын
I’m a Field player as well. Love them.
@ozzieo58998 ай бұрын
This is pretty cool... DWe is also a great electric kit as well..
@DrummR08125 ай бұрын
I love that you can use the Pearl Mimic Pro Editor to create your own samples! The PMP doesn't have a big FAT Snare sound that a lot of worship music has. But because Steven Slate and Pearl made the "Editor", i was able to create my own snare instrument! That's the selling point for me, personally. Roland offer's great kits, but the PMP Editor gives the opportunity to include custom samples WITH DYNAMICS, rather than only One Shots
@John-gc2se4 күн бұрын
Hey im looking for a worship snare for pmp. Can you send me yours maybe?
@drumsjh1518 ай бұрын
Honestly as a drummer the only electronic kit I would use are the high end Vdrums (not the full kit look version) maybe the new DW kit but even those are questionable. There is no better brain over Roland for electronic drums. That ride sounded horrible…… I’d rather play with hot rods😆 This is a really great video btw! Love the detail and information you put out there!!!!
@coreybuystedt8 ай бұрын
Fully agree. We actually just bought a high end acoustic design roland tonight and the ride is incredible. I didn't like the ride in this video
@techtactics7888 ай бұрын
Isn't the Pearl Mimic Pro better than Roland's?
@drumsjh1518 ай бұрын
@@techtactics788 I have not played with the Mimic Pro. Im sure its a great brain. However, if you are looking for all around classic acoustic drum sounds that pairs great with an electronic kit. Then I'd personally go with TD-50KV2 kit. As a drummer thats been playing way to long this is the only E kit I would recommend. Roland has dialed in the feel of the mesh heads. The more rubber cymbals are really responsive and the kick will last a long time. I know technology is improving greatly but this is the best feel for me personally. I think if you ask any drummer most would opt for the Roland kit over anything else. At the end of the day a nice DW, Yamaha Beech Custom (and up), Franklin Drums, Ludwig Classic Acoustic would be my first choice of kits. If these could not work and I had to play an Electric kit then Im going with the Roland TD-50V2.😊😊😊
@ismaelescalante80048 ай бұрын
Facts that ride is awful and way too loud if they were to lower it it wouldn’t be half as bad
@steevidrums5 ай бұрын
Having owned a Mimic for coming up to 5 years, it's still top 3 modules out there. In my opinion it's in line with The efnote Pro, TD50X. Now personally I think it beats them but I accept other people's opinion on this. So I am being conservative with it being top 3 modules. You could always go edrumin-mac/pc-VST-multi out interface route and get similar if not better results perhaps. But weigh up the cost and set up of that and the Mimic seems like a much better option for an all in one package. You can also load in said favourite samples from whatever VST (stereo mixes of only but without hihats) is your favourite for endless possibilities.
@ZachBrownMedia8 ай бұрын
We're using the Mimic Pro! Got a good deal on it and decided to give it a try.. and for us the benefits outweigh the cons of using an "electric" kit. And it's tolerable for the drummers haha
@listener847 ай бұрын
10:27 example of double triggering and not muting, while saying “but it’s better than plastic”. Having had ATV, Roland TD-50X, Mimic, EFNOTE, Alesis, SD3, SSD, Field, Jobeky and most recently, DWe that my church purchased, I couldn’t disagree more with the feel of these stiff, no-give metal cymbals. They have zero percent bend or flex and are so loud, they feel like playing on a formica countertop. Plastic or not plastic is not the dividing line, the magic is in the nuance the ears and hands are experiencing together. We returned our DWe and purchased the EFNOTE Pro 703 after the incredibly loud acoustic sound off the DWe (field) cymbals. EFNOTE nails it with the feel, samples and bandwidth of products, and support. Love the Mimic Pro too, great module, but if we want that, we just usb out and back in with SD3, SSD, DWe, whatever we want. EFNOTE wins straight up
@eDrummerLife5 ай бұрын
At today, after 7 years from its launch, Mimic Pro has still the best onboard sounds out in the market. Period.
@listener845 ай бұрын
@@eDrummerLife love my PMP, but it’s just a cutdown version of SSD. If I want a VST, SD3 smashes SSD and I can usb SD3 right back to my module and bus it out to the house, with 10 balanced channels of my EFNOTE and 2 channels of SD3 and blend them however I like. What I’m saying about EFNOTE is systematic though, it’s aim isn’t to have you make a frankenkit, it has nuances in the triggering and dynamics that are paid attention to by the engineers and it plays like no other kit. I’ve been blown away. I’ve since bought the 3X and upgraded to the PRO module and stage box for myself, it’s incredible.
@eDrummerLife5 ай бұрын
@@listener84 the EfNote onboard sounds are not at the same level of PMP ones... if you have to connect to a computer with a VST, then any module can do the job...
@listener845 ай бұрын
@@eDrummerLife that IS the module doing the job. Sorry, but I have no problem connecting a simple usb cable. I’ll say for live, the efnote sounds are better than the mimic, and are more the context of live, which is a great signal chain of well recorded, close mic’ed drums. I run FOH and the amount of drummers that I need to tell to turn off the dang room mics and reverb and let me push real air and verb in the actual room… 1 out of 10 get it, because they’re used to making drum covers in their rooms where the more room wash they have on the drums, the better. I’ve never once needed to plug in VST with efnote, but they’ve given the ability to if I want to. Like I said, love my mimic, but for live, I’ll take the efnote to the gig. If I’m going to record, and want to track usb midi along with my internal sounds, I’ll do that, but for live, the efnote is better, straight up.
@eDrummerLife4 ай бұрын
@@listener84 ok then, connetc the usb cable, if this is enough to start playing.
@vitaliy_belo8 ай бұрын
Great video! Put all the Toms on a stereo output, and you’ll have 8 channels for the entire kit, including the ride. 👍
@blakeparker18398 ай бұрын
I’ve been playing with this kind of set up for 6 years. This is fairly old news in the edrum world and as far as modules go, you will find nothing that compares to the Pearl Mimic. The only downside is the learning curve. It has an extensive one. As far as sound goes. You will not hear the difference between processed acoustic drums and the Mimic. This will also improve your drum sound at your church. Most local churches are not blessed with good sound engineers and even if they are slightly knowledgeable they usually have zero clue how to mix drums. This will help in that area for people in a similar situation as myself. I went this route 6 years ago and haven’t looked back.
@christiaang8 ай бұрын
The Mimic should really get support for Dante audio over ethernet cable. The would make wiring to the FOH much easier.
@notforyoutube4 ай бұрын
What drum sounds are you using on the Mimic? The drum sounds sound so good.
@benvigil8 ай бұрын
Since 2021 eDrum Center has been the sole distributor of ATV drums. My Sweetwater reps had been telling me they were "no longer available" or "no longer made" (being very careful with their words) to give the impression they were out of business and get you to buy something else from SW. Super shady.
@Churchfront8 ай бұрын
the same team behind ATV is now behind EF-Note drums which are also pretty great.
@eDrummerLife5 ай бұрын
It's incredible.... people don't know what we are talking about here!
@chadcarrdrums8 ай бұрын
I wasn't aware Tom Brady played drums. Great vid.
@CNder778 ай бұрын
Awesome video! Thank you so much for sharing! Fantastic, love the cymbals and response you get also from heads triggers too. I’m sick of years of E drum difficulties. I wasted $2000 on an alisis, artificial sound, response and feel. Rubber cymbals are off. Hi hats terrible -have a mind of their own and pedal is separate, just open or close. Mesh drum heads are cool but still triggers will miss beats. Lol How expensive was this set up you have?
@goodc7137 ай бұрын
Cymbals are the hardest part. While it was close, Obviously the right sample choice will change the sound. The zones are close, but still a couple weird transitions from zones.cool idea though!
@jonathanarleys8 ай бұрын
Multiple outputs for electric drums? Damn this is cool....
@LyoOmniu4 ай бұрын
where can i download the pearl mimic preset?
@joshadams2188 ай бұрын
I’ve been searching for a more realistic looking electronic cymbal for a while. Have you found any cheaper alternatives to the Field cymbals?
@BoxlessDrums7 ай бұрын
Jobeky in the UK and AE Hybrid out of Germany are a couple other brands that carry metal e-cymbals. You just have to deal w/ int’l shipping if you aren’t local to those areas.
@HaxStudio7 ай бұрын
Lemons are cheap/easily replaceable
@gabegib118 ай бұрын
We won’t be able to fully get that real acoustic feel with any electric kit. But this is pretty close
@calebitilley8 ай бұрын
Lots of closed minded folks in the comments. Clearly, it’s not for everyone, but you also have to keep in mind that things were not dialed in for the player. Even with that, it sounds so good.
@joshcapatch43688 ай бұрын
So would the EFNOTE kit paired with the Mimic Pro module be the ideal setup? (in Erik's opinion)
@jochang90127 ай бұрын
Efnote stock actually sounds pretty good after proper mixing and calibration
@steevidrums5 ай бұрын
All the drums and cymbals would work perfectly, as they're almost if not exact, the same design as ATV cymbals and drums. The issue would be with the Efnote hihat, it relies on a multipin connection from their modules. In that you have the power supply for the optical sensor, the cymbal zones (edge, and bow, maybe the bell too? I am not sure) and the resistance values of the optical sensor. In theory someone with a bit of tech skill could make a box to go in between which separates these pins into their individual TRS jacks and power supply. But as far as I know, no one has attempted this yet. I hope this helps.
@leifbrandt45158 ай бұрын
How loud are the cymbals in the first few rows? We have a fairly small sanctuary with lots of glass behind the stage and am curious if the metal cymbals would still add too much volume to the room...
@BoxlessDrums7 ай бұрын
I’m curious about this too. The metal cymbals seem to be quite a bit louder than the rubber ones
@sound_xajay8 ай бұрын
Waoooo ❤ great 👍 Drum set
@sergeskubenich77328 ай бұрын
Our churches set up is Sabian HHX real symbols, drumtec drums, and pearl mimic for brains. No matter what e cymbals we tried it just never felt right and about near impossible to do a swell.
@isabeloabao52008 ай бұрын
May i know how much it cost for the edrum sets?
@EYEBALLS-kq2en8 ай бұрын
I use superior drummer 3 with the Alesis strike pro se
@femali4 ай бұрын
I was thinking about getting one for home use. I see a lot of mixed reviews (predominantly cymbals). How is it holding up for you?
@renod428 ай бұрын
Would people be interested in a brain with built in dante?
@davidpound377 ай бұрын
Yes. Im out of stage box inputs
@madebydalton8 ай бұрын
$2500 (that's just for the brain only) could get you a decent used kit with good heads, a simple cymbal setup and a shield. Even the most expensive of e-kits still sound cheap and feel awkward. Not hopeful for this technology to be useable anytime soon lol
@ironblast58 ай бұрын
The guys nay saying in the comments here dont seem to understand this is not dialed in well the trigger settings are way off here and i also wasnt a fan of the samples they chose thats personal taste tho they have way beyter sounds and you can upload your own multisamples I've heard the pearl mimic setup properly and it is substantially better then here. Also efnote and atv are not very well built imho I'd reccomend drumtec shells and triggers over them the build quality is just much better.
@jdkramer58358 ай бұрын
I love that at 22:50 You say it's really important to have good gain staging when pretty much every channel is going into the yellow and some clipping. That's not "good" gain staging. If you are trying clip or push the gain up a bit to get some sort of distortion then that's something else but you shouldn't label that as good gain staging. Its very misleading and incorrect
@nates93538 ай бұрын
I guess you do what your client wants, but if the drummers actually played to the room, you wouldn’t need an e-kit.
@a.d.hopkins57118 ай бұрын
Even in the demo I see him hitting cymbals and no sound.
@ladanzza7 ай бұрын
No surprise about the triggering, sound not accurate, I have more than 15 years reaching out about this and my conclusion over the years is use Roland drums with library, the digital pads make huge difference if you want multitrack you can use a multitrack interface, but I mixed the drums in the library thru my studio
@sunnyvang37728 ай бұрын
Anyone know why you wouldn’t just use real cymbals with an electric kit? Is latency a factor?
@mcpribs8 ай бұрын
Volume, would be my concern. If I’m a small space, like the church I’m at, with heavy handed drummers, it would sound like cymbal worship time.
@HopeCityChurchMangalore8 ай бұрын
Honestly, Logic Pro's Drum Plugin sounds better! I know there are other advantages but not impressive in terms of sound.
@eDrummerLife5 ай бұрын
Seriously?
@HopeCityChurchMangalore5 ай бұрын
@@eDrummerLifeYes, I am serious.
@eDrummerLife5 ай бұрын
@@HopeCityChurchMangalore I believe that you never tried the PMP... but you are so brave to judge just watching a YT video...
@jpcampos8 ай бұрын
The dynamics of the cymbals seem to be WAY off. In the "Make Room" demo he's barely touching the ride. If the drummer has to play that light on a E kit cymbals for them not to explode, might as well just get a real kit or just stick to the Roland V-drums.
@seancca8 ай бұрын
Just like any brain you gotta tweak it to fit the drummer.
@matthewfrohbieter18038 ай бұрын
Just get a drum booth and an acoustic kit. It’s cheaper and sounds better.
@jwc31044 ай бұрын
Before we drummers go for Acoustic vs Electric debate, we must understand that the Church is not there to listen to you play the drum. 95% of congregation doesn't care if it's Electric or Acoustic. They just want nice easy to listen sound, and focus on worship vive. In most medium size churches, an acoustic kit (whether it's in the cage or not) is a nightmare to deal with, both acoustically and aesthetically. It's too loud - so you put it in the cage, then the cage destroys the look of the stage. Also most sound engineer does not understand how to dial in a good drum sound. Too loud. Too muddy. Not much anyone can do. EDrum at least solves 1 1/2 of this problem. I have almost exactly same setup in my church. PMP with Jobeky Ecymbals, and ATV shells. Still trying to dial in. Cymbals are bit difficult to dial in, but toms and kick sound incredible. We made a compromise and added 1 acoustic cymbal for cymbal swell sound.
@jeremy1447137 ай бұрын
1st drum upgrade: find drummers who know how to play to room and throw out that electric kit.
@marioaviles95828 ай бұрын
yeah, no thanks
@FrankieJen8 ай бұрын
Nope…Not even a little bit. Oof 😅
@huubdrums3 ай бұрын
Those guys believe in a santa clause 😂
@XfreshcakesX8 ай бұрын
Sorry, just my taste, those cymbals sound terrible. Could very well be the selected sound coming from the brain.
@eDrummerLife5 ай бұрын
You could make sound better, right?
@antd27338 ай бұрын
All that effort and it still sounds like trash 😂
@eDrummerLife5 ай бұрын
Seriously? Give us an example of good sounding drums then!