ELECTRIC SKATEBOARD (belt vs hub motors)

[@natalibaby466]

We had an epic ride here in NYC last week of over 50+ riders on electric boards I don’t think I saw anyone with a Ownboard or Wowgo board. Probably hasn’t made it up here yet. Watch our latest video when you get a chance of how big the boarding community has gotten here.... also, I think I’ll stick with belt. Definitely more power IMO.

[@justinbravo]

Oh damn! Was that the one Sam Sheffer vlogged about? Looked dope! I’ll check your vid out. The community here isn’t as robust, I’d love to have that many people to ride with!!

[@natalibaby466]

Justin Bravo Yes! He was cool.

[@natalibaby466]

Justin Bravo it started really small here too. That day was the largest gathering thus far. Maybe start a FB group? That’s how the community grew here

[@danielribeiro2113]

NatAli Baby Sup man I'm from NYC queens man. I just finished my Frankenstein board. It use to have meepo parts but now it has meepo hub motors, wowgo vsc, wowgo metal covers , wowgo remote all on a loaded deck . When do u guys meet up and what time?

[@natalibaby466]

Dirty Ribz 👋 I’m from Queens too. Wow! Sounds like you made an awesome board there. I’d love to see it, maybe on the next meet? Follow Boostedboard Riders NYC on FB. So far no word of the next meet but they’ll definitely post it on there.

[@thetroothhurtz]

Hub Motors are WAYYY better. Way less bulky, doesn't hit as many rocks, doesn't have as many moving parts, doesn't get as dirty inside, and doesn't have that stupid antiquated belt. Watch Boosted come out with a Hub Motor option and call it "New and revolutionizing!!" LOL.

[@justinbravo]

Dude! You know damn well that will be their phrasing! Haha. 😂

[@thetroothhurtz]

It totally will lmao

[@cypher10297]

But belt driven is a piece of art only engineers can love it. I'm an engineer and I prefer belt driven.

[@raynman6466]

Belt driven has more customization. If you want to buy a board and go because you don't like modifying things get a hub motor

[@RenoLaringo]

Hubs are like McDonalds hamburgers, Belt driven are the 5star restaurant. They're just dedicated to different people. Couldn't-care-less people vs mechanically inclined ones.

[@jonathand154]

HEY. I dont think its fair to compare a high end belt drive to low end/ budget hub moter drive. I dont think its a very good review/ "vs" video considering the price point of the boosted is like 3 times more expensive compared to the chinese ownboard / meepo/ wowgo. You should compare boosted to the enersion raptor 2.0, which are both high end boards. dont get me wrong. i think its an amazing video and good explination, but not fair to the hub motor boards.

[@120thevortex]

also worth saying that belt driven boards dont get more power and torque. the amount of performance you get out of the motors depends on how much you pay

[@matts6551]

Bro you got me in stitches right now. A boosted board is only expensive because of the hype it’s ridiculous Fanbase creates. That ownboard he has in the video has served me very well. I’ve put over 2000 miles on it in 2 years and I’m still on the stock wheels, stock motor, stock grip tape... stock everything. After all that time the battery still registers at 96% when full. Plus ownboard is still thriving in business, can’t say the same about Boosted and their bankruptcy issues

[@jaygee7749]

I tend to push my boards to the very limit of their battery capacity and I'm too poor to buy an extra battery 😂, which means often end up kicking my board part of the way so belt-driven is just a no-go for me

[@rustler08]

I own an Ownboard and a BB V2+. There are no vibrations from the hub motors themselves, but there is a definite difference in torque. The BB has zero issues with any of the steep hills, which are all 10 degrees+, while the Ownboard drops off very quickly. Also, the BB is so much smoother on rough pavement. The Ownboard has so many vibrations, where you get all the buzzing through your feet, while the BB feels almost like you're on smooth pavement. And I'm still on stock wheels. I imagine a soft 97mm would be even better. Overall, for where I live, the BB is the better board. I need the torque to climb my steep hills, something the hub motors struggle with. But, in a relatively flat area, I would be 100% okay with a hub-motor board.

[@justinbravo]

Yea man I think you nailed it! I’d be interested in throwing on some 97mm too!

[@zappous6758]

rustler08 rewatch the only reason it was vibrating so much is because the table under the ownboard is curved while the BB has a completely flat table under it

[@joshoconnor9666]

My area is nothing but super steep hills. My hub motor flies up the hills to the point I have to brake and not even on the highest setting. Shud of not bought a crap board is what it sounds like. I'm like 210lb rider too.

[@Breal191]

I mean, aren’t you going to experience vibration by nearly riding on any ground? How can you notice vibration on Hubs from riding on the road? I don’t understand what you mean.

[@Chevsterful]

Less wheel for hubs since the motor takes up about 70% of the wheel diameter.

[@matts6551]

On a moderately smooth road you hardly feel any vibration. I mean you skate on a regular longboard you will feel vibrations. Let’s not be ridiculous about this, it’s a skateboard… Besides larger wheels there is no shock absorption other than what deck you have. I have about 2000 miles on a hub onwboard and can attest to this.!

[@suchhun]

This is the best difference info vid I have seen, straight to the point.. It's like they answered my question without me asking 😂😍😍😍

[@sirclives]

Highly doubt hub motor tech can progress any more than it has, besides power increasing the small amount of p.u. will also add to the feel of the board when you go over cracks and bumps being uncomfortable. I've tried both setups and for me the small advantages provided by hubs is not enough to even begin to consider them as better. The mechanical advantage of belts hands down alone is a reason to choose them over hubs. In my humble opinion.

[@justinbravo]

I hear ya! Belt driven definitely has the edge for the foreseeable future! Only thing I like about hubs is the quietness

[@vincentvalentin8152]

Thanks for the info. Going with a HUB board.

[@Freddy_Confetti]

My hubs are very smooth. I got a carbon Ride1up board. Should review them!

[@NeoVdV]

What about wheel changes between the two ?

[@samanthakue3439]

Try the Miles dual board!

[@reptiloidx8942]

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[@user-bd3fn8ee4k]

Hub is better; it is quieter, usually more reliable, allows the board to coast easily, and if paired with a good esc such as meepo’s, it will perform just as well as some top tier belt motors. (Especially if it has a mode that jacks up the torque)

[@419tommy]

Key Bills/Atrostic limited to only urethane wheels that wear quickly is a Con

[@user-bd3fn8ee4k]

tommy hall yes but they’re replaceable usually

[@TheBackwasher]

I have to disagree. Beside raptor 2 belt motors wins on acceleration and torque over any hub.

[@JesseHMR]

Actually the meepo v2p has pretty much the same acceleration as a boosted but a faster top speed and the Raptor 2 is pretty much the only high end board with a hub we are comparing budget boards 350dollar boards vs 1k+boards I think hubs still have room for evolution, more power, better braking but direct drive is the future. Hubs are a lot more recent and the technology is catching up its only a mater of time until we find raptor style hubs on cheap eboards

[@jordanhauser4311]

Atrostic are u sponsored or something

[@mathisimoberdorf4538]

So is it really not possible to push/ride the belt driven boatd if the battery is empty

[@Piroqu93]

Comparing board worth few hundres of dolara vs once that costs more than 1k...

[@EvilBambo0]

First time watching your videos and love the no bs approach, keep up the good work! I think hub gives more range, also newer ones have replaceable skin too.

[@justinbravo]

Thanks so much!

[@GalaxyCFNA]

legit helpful not gonna lie

[@ICKY427]

it seems to me like the difference in noise and free rolling resistance is in the motors themselves, not the inherent characteristics of the belt system. theres no way a rubber belt is making all that noise. and it isnt the fact its belt driven that gives it more power, surely its just a bigger motor.

[@esk8spirit362]

it's the mode they run in. THe sound you hear is the BLDC, the electric impulses. Those chinese hubs use some not very good mode that is quiet though, cannot be run in vast speeds and is not really efficient. With the highest quality VESC you can use the superior FOC mode that is insanely smooth and almost as quiet as hubs, also more efficient than even BLDC.

[@pdx96]

At first, I thought a hub was a belt motor with a urethane wrap but the gearing makes the torque. But that's not the case because of the sound and the ability to push. So I wonder if they can combine the two

[@justinbravo]

Man I think the hub motors being dropped the next year will be the best of both worlds

[@pdx96]

Hunter deja thanks for the info! I know a lot of people don't like the noise but I personally really like it. I currently have a boosted and it's just an audio orgasm. I'm looking for a long distance one though. I'm hoping someone will eventually release a drop down deck.

[@unlogicalproductions]

Would it be possible to build a board with front hub motors and back double pulley/hub motors? Has anyone done that?

[@einsteind]

hi nice review,,,,is a belt system better than hub motors if you get caught out in the rain ?, a week ago my first electric meppo style board lasted less than a couple of minutes in a down poor that came with out warning and it was the hub motors that failed. fixed now but need a board/ different motors (30kph) for a daily commute that don't mind getting a little wet, thanks

[@resanprince628]

Does only one wheel spin or both the back ones ? Idk if I broke mine or not lol

[@sandragriffith4609]

Dope stuff Justin!

[@EDMJosephS]

Is it true that you would need to change the motor if the hub motor tire run out?

[@darinperry1061]

Awesome comparision!

[@justinbravo]

Thanks 🙏🏼

[@hollymaxwell947]

Man that boosted is loud! RIP headphones

[@sebastianohlson2833]

Awesome video

[@justinbravo]

Thanks!! 🤘🏼🤘🏼

[@dougwebb917]

Go with the Raptor 2 best hub motor you can buy!

[@indigowolf8712]

I would like to see someone compare the ride using the same deck and trucks. The vibration is a red herring, it would have minimal effect on the ride. The deck, trucks, Bushings and padding make a huge difference. Boosted has higher quality everything compared to cheaper Chinese boards.

[@justinbravo]

Definitely. I’ve had a few that seem really unbalanced but for the most part the slight vibration isn’t going to be noticeable on your normal riding conditions.

[@safir2241]

It also costs 3 times more.

[@Fly4aWhiteGuy]

Are Meepo V3 hub motors brushless?

[@emiliovaughn7354]

My mini s is on the way!

[@KAMiJUINs]

Good review!!! That's what i want to know~ thanks.

[@partisanapple5349]

His belts are so tight

[@santiagolamb2452]

You getting the boosted mini s or x?

[@ADDCONES]

Santiago Lamb s

[@alcazarfreddy]

Try a Raptor 2 and tell us what you think about „more torque“ in a boosted 😇

[@justinbravo]

Haha I’ve heard. Hope to get on one soon

[@fuuz642]

I'd get one now if they had a variety of wheels like evolve has. riding on different sets of wheels is so much fun.

[@kerveenvergara9449]

then if you lose power on your belt e skate just remove the belt -_- right

[@XGiveMeLibertyX]

Do you get better range with hub motors or with belt driven motors?

[@justinbravo]

Less drag so I would think most times you would be better with hubs

[@matts6551]

I can get my hub motor board up to 24 mph and when I let off the throttle I can coast for quite awhile. So definitely better Range with hubs... that’s not even up for debate

[@ghostburgers4284]

I'm a tall heavy dude so i think i will choose the belt driven

[@aussiemateadventure8317]

hi ! i live in an area where there are a lot of steep hills. I have watched several video about the two systems and the belt driven skateboards always seemed to have more power to take on a hill Could anyone confirm this to me ? What system is the best for a hilly place ???? thks for the advice

[@justinbravo]

Belts definitely have the torque for hills

[@socomon69]

Hub motor is spinning more mass, so more prone to balance / vibration issues.

[@giovannysaenz7627]

try mellow boards

[@matsvl]

Would you prefer the wowgo 2s or the ownboard w1? And why?

[@justinbravo]

Getting the 2s in this week. I’ll definitely let you know!

[@matsvl]

Justin Bravo Awesome!!!

[@RagingChicken]

WOWGO 2S

[@matsvl]

RagingChicken why?

[@chillindude5471]

i bought the wowgo2s and i recommend getting it. for its price it cant be beat, its a solid board that feels like a top of the line board

[@rodogg34]

Which are the solid hubs ?🤷🏽‍♂️

[@JoseBauzo]

nice vid Mr. Bravo!! thumbs up! I am having a blast with the Backfire G2. Maybe you can look into that one as well! Hifive bro!

[@justinbravo]

I’ll check it out man! Thanks!!

[@user-sn9od2cy4v]

So, 5 years later, hubs didnt take over the world xD. However they are a great budget option

[@2ndLastJedi]

Test the Evolve GTX AT please !

[@NullBlox]

Dude, I push on my Boosted MiniX all the time. 200% possible and is not really that hard either.

[@carywilkins1870]

I need to get a boosted mini or wowgo mini!

[@sammartinez8135]

Belt all the way

[@justinbravo]

Yessss. raw power fo sho

[@electrifiedreviews]

Dooooope comparison. Good points, Justin. Oh and I'm doing a GIVEAWAY for an Inboard M1 electric skateboard on my channel right now if you need another board to try out 😂

[@esk8spirit362]

You forgot to mention the most important difference and that is WHEELS! You can use any wheels you want with belts, let alone the difference between real wheels urethane/pneu and chinese hub motor thin urethane... incomparable...

[@RagingChicken]

wowgo mini shakes more bc its smaller

[@justinbravo]

Definitely a factor

[@mitchellmadden183]

Should have used a clear cup of water to show the vibration 🌊

[@salvadorfisher795]

Heya JB!

[@matts6551]

On a moderately smooth road you hardly feel any vibration. I mean you skate on a regular longboard you will feel vibrations. Let’s not be ridiculous about this, it’s a skateboard… Besides larger wheels there is no shock absorption other than what deck you have. I have about 2000 miles on a hub onwboard and can attest to this.

[@Powerchord010]

Hubs hands down. No question about it

[@christiangregory9315]

Meepo V3 hub would kill any belt board in power only belt that beats the spec is GTX because of the range Meepo v3 still has higher top speed super high range at 1000-1200$ less running at 400$-600$

[@TheDuo702]

My belt driven board pushes fine? Idk what yall talking bout.

[@justinbravo]

Have you ever pushed a hub board? It’s a night and day difference.

[@matts6551]

Can you also effortlessly push a car without stepping on the gas? It’s the same concept...resistance equals difficulty

[@zeth609]

Moh power baby.

[@teresapage3521]

Yo Justin!

[@Agent77X]

Hub you stuck with the wheels from mfr.; belt use any wheels you want!

[@joshoconnor9666]

I don't think just about anything u said is true dude. Tell me why I see meepo hub boards smokin belt driven motors?

[@vtsgb222]

Why is the video so shaky?

[@htcm56dre]

bro something is wrong with your boosted

[@justinbravo]

Belts were loose after hitting it hard the day before. Need to get in and tighten them up a bit

[@Sinlka]

Justin Bravo if that's the case it's pretty underhanded to have not mentioned it upfront in the video.

[@sammartinez8135]

Hey man how you doin

[@justinbravo]

Doing well dude! Not loving this week of thunderstorms coming but I guess it could be worse

[@sammartinez8135]

Justin Bravo yeah but you should see the evolve electric skateboard not saying you should buy it but look at it. I'm saving up to one

[@justinbravo]

Dude I want to try one so bad. A lot of the companies send me a free board for review purposes but them and Boosted are like “hell no” 😂

[@sammartinez8135]

Justin Bravo they're spoiled

[@justinbravo]

Yeah, they are doing alright for themselves haha

[@Agent77X]

Hub is for kids, belts for adults!

[@matts6551]

Belts are for dinosaurs or gullible people who don’t realize direct drive motors exist. Enjoy that leg day when you have to attempt to free push home on a dead battery...my hub motor doesn’t have that problem

[@Larx3476]

2nd and first to like. And sweet video. I also I dislike running out of power

[@justinbravo]

You are the best dude!

[@Larx3476]

Justin Bravo thx u so much

[@Oscarjankesmedia]

Your belts are way too tight

[@cypher10297]

Aren't the supposed to be tight?

[@schmoe2984]

@@cypher10297 your belts should be as loose as possible. So tight enough so the belt doesn't slip and loose enough to decrease resistance when free rolling

[@brianf4879]

What the hell is go gang? Lol

[@alexanderturl]

Comparing a premium belt driven board to a generic cheap shit hub board is like comparing a Lamborghini to Kia because they are both cars. GET A RAPTOR 2.

[@justinbravo]

Fair point! I’ll work on getting that raptor!

[@grinbabit3561]

no way its kanye east

[@gizmoffm]

Vibrating hub motors are simply bad quality - this is not normal