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Welcome back to The Explore Life! This week we're putting the first F150 Lightning in Australia through the ultimate tow test! With 35' tyres, a 3.4t boat in tow, and a mountainous route to the beautiful Moogerah Dam ahead, we're going to find out just how far the F150 Lightning can go!
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[@tylerbrengle9652]

Here's some more real-world numbers. I have a Lightning with the extended range battery and I can get 205 miles when towing my 18 ft boat. Granted, my boat + trailer weighs about 2,000 lbs which is much less than the Mastercraft. 205 miles gets me everywhere I need to take my boat, and back home, so I have no complaints. When *not* towing I can easily get the full 310 miles that Ford advertises.

[@logik1677]

Saved the beer....... you my friend just earned a life long subscription for that effort!

[@dean070880]

The answer is actually no, if you went for a day trip and couldn't charge overnight. I know if I'm your mate driving the Ram, I'm not waiting for you at the servo so you can charge your EV 😂

[@ShawnFraser-b7q]

The idea of a weekend away and having to charge the car over night away from the camp is the most non ausie thing to date

[@iFragedx]

Fuck yeah! The boys at explore making Sunday arvos that much better

[@kelvingorey4830]

Put a honda genny in the frunk too charge it in remote areas and compare the fuel used too recharge it Good vid

[@alanbrady2399]

Thats a good idea. BMW do something like that. Its called Range Extender, its like a Jerry can sort of thing

[@purple_beany]

That's actually really smart, I like that idea.

[@Malc664]

Brilliant video mate. Well covered and spoken on the Lightning test. What beautiful backyard you have there in Queensland.

[@chrisbalfour585]

Good EP Mat. Interesting! Unfortunately I won’t ever have issue of needing to know if my $230k Ute will tow my $250k boat to camp. That’s a rich man’s problem.

[@ChrisDADLUX]

I think they are a awesome idea just as you say though they are not there yet for long distance. Unless you have a van and are stopping heaps at powered sites. The best thing about them is if you are at a powerd site you can park up for a few days and change it up. Saving heaps on fuel

[@danielgarland5778]

Is there any way you could plug in a solar panel in to charge it up enough ?? Just a question

[@stevenbrown1695]

Great comparison, but with a $250,000 price tag, I simply can’t see the Lightening being worth it anytime soon. Not to mention that half a day and a full night only gave you approx 50% (given there was charge left). Nah thanks. Might ok for caravan park jumping though.

[@BenDavis-qz3zg]

They are $209K on the website, not $250K . Most sites would have 15amp plugs he would have got more charge if he used that plug. This was a worst case scenario so not too bad

[@alanbrady2399]

Mate, I liked the video. Pretty impressive vehicle. It's never going to be a tourer, but it's not bad to tow nearly 4 tonnes over that high elevation range to camp, and I still get back. A standard F-150 can range from $150k -$200k. I would rather do this, for sure. Cheap AF to run, too. GT Rebel is awesome though, I love that truck

[@jeremybresley]

@@BenDavis-qz3zg There's a pretty steep "down-under" tax on these then. Ford's US website lists a Lightning Platinum for $93K before incentives.

[@__lancaster]

So when you have eight F150 Lightnings all needing that charge station at the lake camp ground on a long weekend - someone isnt getting home are they? Long way to go before EVs are even close to meeting expectations.

[@alanbrady2399]

Bro, campers plug in all day everyday and charge at camp grounds, as if the grid there cant spare 3.6kW

[@__lancaster]

@@alanbrady2399 For larping wannabe woke climate warriors who only ever want to stay at a caravan park then maybe one of these EV trucks would suffice. For 99% of the market who want to tow over 200km without having to charge or compete for limited charing points these products are not good enough. Maybe in 10 years....Bro.

[@alanbrady2399]

@@__lancasterthanks hero. The truck has its place. It ain’t a towing truck. It’s like a Porsche with a payload and can def tow and chew up weekend on the beach with the toys. Also beat it ya gronk.

[@-PORK-CHOP-]

Speaking of Goose's I thought Nav was going to appear 🤣🤣😂😂

[@Theflyingtech1]

So it’s not practical for Australia 😂, and for 250k, it’ll be interesting to see how many they sell. A American KZbin channel did a comparison with the standard size tyres on the F150 and the range was still horrible haha.

[@daveo1559]

Except u dont get ya car at camp because its off at the changing station. QUESTION..... How much did it cost to charge it back up at the shop?

[@adamover-field7553]

Would be interesting to see the cost comparison with how much it cost to charge some of those re charge points are apparently quite expensive and then also a 5yr rough servicing cost on standard maintenance especially with the battery replacement cost. Otherwise it's great to see what the EVs r capable off it will be a while till they can compete with the remote accessibility of a good petrol or diesel rig though.

[@JoelDean-f9n]

The Ram clearly has a 4 inch lift as well which effects fuel economy also

[@JamieCon]

You’re doing a bloody good job pooooooly love the vids man

[@josechapman7611]

Firsts off great vid really enjoyed it , interesting test of vehicles but not a true reflection there was a cost of charging the EV as it was charged before hand . Was there any lights on ,aircon ,radio whilst driving .and towing bot would be different from towing a full size caravan due to height . What would be good is to to drive it for a good distance and charging at the charge stations ,and get a time on how long to charge and how much to charge it as I believe it is quite expensive ,that would be good information . You did give an honest answer in relation to what this vehicle is suitable for which is stay close to home or charge stations , Thanks mat unbiased option as always . You’re not bad on the back of the boat well done mate .

[@grandpalarry7776]

WOW, a whole 200km (124 miles) range. That's pathetic. In the US, that isn't enough range to get from my house to one of the major lakes. YES, the Rebel uses a lot of petrol, but how hard is it to refill? I'm sure there are petrol stations fairly conveniently located to refuel and it won't take but a few minutes to do so.

[@Testpilotpirate]

They went past Aratula which isn’t far from the lakes and there’s a major truck stop with high flow diesel so any hungry trucks can refuel quickly. Mostly Tesla cars in QLD but charging them costs about 60 cents/kwh in Aussie money but about 25 cents/kwh at home using 240Volts. Outback Australia isn’t good for EV’s due to really long distances between fuel stops and or any form of human habitation.

[@cooolfarm]

It costs me $10.00 for a 100% charge of electricity in my lightning. Now put $10.00 worth of gas in the Ram. See who has more range now.

[@tobymcilveen2553]

I don’t care what anyone says, no electric motor will ever be able to do what a diesel engine has done. No questions asked

[@dwaynethart6527]

Broad claims are easy to make and difficult to dispute. What specifically?

[@alanmay7929]

Exactly and those diesel engines can also power an aircraft for even longer routes going to even more remote places...

[@alanmay7929]

@@dwaynethart6527 wtf are you talking about?!

[@dwaynethart6527]

​@@alanmay7929about the broad claim that no electric motor will ever be able to do what any diesel engine has ever done, of course. I didn't think it was that difficult to follow...

[@TheCambelltown]

@@alanmay7929a diesel plane…? I don’t think a diesel plane has flown since the 1930s.

[@LethalLee666]

how much was the ev to run ? and is it less range of a night drive

[@yeti_bro_]

do your RV “van” plug in sites not have 30 or 50 amp plugs?!

[@johndrake7056]

15 amp at caravan park powered sites here

[@Oscarcat2212]

They might drive better but in Australia? Maybe for city commuting where the batteries and car are parked outside.

[@fscottgray9784]

What if 2 electrics show up at the same charger? Just plan a extra day if your second.

[@ian9toes]

Typical EV propaganda, he gave us the figures for the petrol dollars then made zero mention about the cost of recharging the other. Even if it’s substantially less it is far from free.

[@ian9toes]

@maine-lygamingtips2039 exactly and it’s the same mindset with ICE cars too, people obsess over the L/100 as if it’s the only cost of owning a vehicle. And the depreciation of 10’s of thousands of dollars will buy an awful lot of petrol and the convenience of not planning your trip around charging has significant value too.

[@niceconomou6713]

It’s just stupid plug it in and it doesn’t coast any thing. What a point less review . Wont even say how long it takes to charge. Probably can’t dive it for two days it takes that long to charge

[@vvarLEADER]

well at 0.14 cents per kw i pay $19.74 to charge to full

[@ian9toes]

@@vvarLEADER how big is your car and how much has it depreciated since you bought it?

[@niceconomou6713]

@@vvarLEADER how long dose it take to change at home versus a fast charger??

[@simoncumming7347]

Great review

[@-PORK-CHOP-]

Would have been better to have done it on standard sized tyres, to get a better idea of range.

[@Aidan_wesley]

Can’t charge it out in the middle of the Kimberley’s ,2 big to drive around the city ,yeah it would tow good and they are nice trucks I’d prefer the petrol

[@melnickharris1177]

Why can't they design a charge system charge as you drive in a car like that🤷 lithium alternator charge You only got back due to charging the thing lol

[@phalanx3803]

what company imports the F150 lighting?

[@concretekiller]

tough trucks in coomera

[@phalanx3803]

@@concretekiller never heard of them must be new to the importing game.

[@concretekiller]

@phalanx3803 not really new been doing it since 2019

[@phalanx3803]

@@concretekiller yea thats fairly new.

[@LiamRoach-px4kf]

It’s not tough trucks, it’s done by AUSEV.

[@vvarLEADER]

how much are these in Australia

[@Bigsoot7393]

$19,990

[@aussieadventurestimetoplay]

The Ford is basically a toyota forklift haha

[@dezza718]

The oil drinkers comments haha

[@noneyacabbage]

Cummins w/ exhaust brake shouldn't be much different from the Lightning & WAY MORE range. I get that the Lightning is a "1500" but it weighs about the same as the Ram w/ a Cummins.

[@colinv8racer134]

So impractical. Yes the electric has amazing power and torque but nobody is seriously going to tow a big boat and go camping with a lightning. Can you imagine telling your wife that you’re probably going to have to stop on the way home for an hour because your cars flat. Usually everyone is buggered a dying to get home. Lighting is just a toy.

[@quagar6982]

Priority 1, save the beer.

[@jeffbyah4458]

Most people camp out of there cars so having to park it away from where you want to camp isn’t going to work for most.

[@HappyEel-ty9cy]

F150 lightening will win

[@NoahTarallo]

why use a petrol engine when it’s known as a fuel destroyer, should use the Cummins or a diesel

[@theexplorelife]

Fair comparison mate, these are the motors they have in the ‘1500’ variants of these American vehicles

[@alanmay7929]

@@theexplorelife same motor but not same setup!

[@kromey111]

So no electricity cost to charge lightning?

[@theexplorelife]

Didn’t pay for it at the camp 😂 and the cost at home to charge to fill prior was around $35

[@kromey111]

@@theexplorelife cost to charge up after trip ?

[@Herc-eles]

The RAM didn't need to refuel but you recharged the Ford 35% (1/3 of the tank) just to make it home... hardly a fair comparison.

[@bigles4545]

Just goes to show that the electric is not worth it as show what would really happen if you could nit change it and if so do it on the way home to show how much extra time you will have to wait to get home.

[@alanbrady2399]

@@bigles4545 Mate, it's awesome AF. It's never going to be a tourer, but f&*k me, it would be awesome as a daily and toy runner. Normal F-150s start at $150-200k, and these sh*ts on them. Rebel GT is awesome tho

[@richwhetton]

Only just 98L tank and doing 30/100

[@1tr1ck]

Its called " decell regen "

[@treadlightly.australia3606]

That's not a fair comparison at all you had to charge it at the lake otherwise you wouldn't have made it home

[@alanbrady2399]

who cares, dope truck, still did awesome IMO

[@user-jy6zn3cx9k]

@@alanbrady2399 why you tryna dickride the lightning so bad you are literally replying to every single comment. if you have can only do 200km then that sucks for anywhere that isnt a major city aka 95% of the country

[@andreabta]

😂😂😂 Sounds like you are getting lazy mate 😂😂 from 3 to 2 now 1pedal 😂😂 I genuinely would love to see the Ford getting wet 😂

[@brandon50199]

They already did that. The batteries are sealed, the vehicle was fine. Toyota's 48v system on the other hand...

[@stevejones4839]

Not really a fair test you should have had a diesel f truck and a petrol f truck

[@bigles4545]

Do that same test after the battery has been used everyday for 12 months as that will also see how the battery's are and how long they last as I know over time and constant charging batteries start to loose there holding charge. You said yes you can go there and back but no that is wrong as you had to charge it. Next time do it again but do not charge it as you didnt top the fuel up in the ram. Electric will never replace fuel or diesel. Do the same test but with a fully loaded tradies trailer out on the job site all day and used the same as they use it on site for the day and i bet you will not make it to a charging station and if you do you will now get home at midnight from work.

[@herculesinwyoming]

I watched already knowing the ford would run out of range way too quick

[@alanbrady2399]

Mate 4t behind it, pretty big load for an EV. I reckon it killed it. Not many, if any, EVs can tow. People are too harsh on it. Its like a Porsche performance, still can tow 4t, and has a tonne payload. I rate it, its only $196k on the site, or adverts I saw. The mid range F-150 petrol is like that price.

[@herculesinwyoming]

@alanbrady2399 hoovies garage on KZbin made it 80 miles towing a ford model t in an early build ford lightning

[@joemccutcheon-hv7bo]

My problem it’s going to be worth nothing in resale or once the battery’s are buggered we are already seeing it with teslas

[@461_Media]

You can’t beat the sound of a petrol or a diesel

[@vicki6350]

No good EV in WA 22ft boat is a dingy

[@Eveloffroad]

They already quit making them in the US. A city daily driver it would be fine. Towing the range is trash.

[@alanbrady2399]

Pffft. bro the 20-24 model came out. They are still making them, yanks just arent EV people.

[@stuartkcalvin]

A waste of my time.

[@davidmilledge221]

I turned off after i printed this 😂

[@Deatomizer]

Never trust a Stelantis vehicle.

[@dn059]

Yeah lets go buy an f-150..... In electric form 😂 what kinda goose would even bother 😂🤡 diesel all day ill take the power stroke 250 for similar price

[@brandon50199]

I would have the electric. I love my diesel but I can't deny the electric f-150 just tickles me in a way no other vehicle does. I don't own a big boat or van, I only tow a trailer when doing a dump run or grabbing some free bits and pieces, but I do quite a bit of camping and this would be lovely. If 90% of my driving experience is through the city, and the rest is camping, this would be perfect for me. Obviously that's not everyone's experience, but this car definitely has its place. I'm very keen on seeing a similar sort of setup that Edison motors is doing with their semi trucks, a diesel generator and electric setup. Then you could do properly long distance travel in these vehicles but with shockingly good fuel consumption.

[@martinvanhees8323]

All i can see is don't by a Ram and they drink to much and don't buy the electric Ford as you will be going no where fast

[@tichakundaj]

They must have paid you well. I can't get an honest review these days. They is a place for electric cars towing and long distance travelling is not it.

[@theexplorelife]

I literally said that 😂

[@rumpy362]

Last time I was there the creepy manager was spotted by his red light on his body cam watching us at 11pm at night! Forget the car just don't go there

[@robertbrosnan8929]

Ev 😅

[@andrewt3952]

Already been shown that it’s useless. It never had a 500km range to start with. Ford just says it does. Nice try trying to make it sound good. Hardly an “absolute win”, you forgot the $150k for the privilege

[@MrCruiser26]

Unfortunately it’s still a ford poo……..

[@Ihateironyanddumbusernames]

yeah just a ford, probably the most dynamic and storied brand of all time. right up there with mercedes

[@treadlightly.australia3606]

Not quite sure who's the dope you or the truck

[@andrewcoulter323]

don't think your selling this truck, Range is pitiful and you aren't drawing power for a fridge camp lights or anything else.... unsuitable...

[@GustavDbl]

I know you have to promote the electric rig and they try to push these cars into the market but let’s be dead honest here… that’s a pile of heavy metal nonsense for Australia…

[@exvictorian3605]

Pathetic performance range wise

[@dangwin8013]

What a sell out hahaha

[@johnhummus2519]

Don't do this boys selling out is never the way, EVs are dangerous. I want to be able to open my door regardless of computer signals thanks.

[@ehholden2376]

Not going to waste my time watching this elec vehicle's are rubbish will never own one

[@JoelDean-f9n]

The Ram clearly has a 4 inch lift as well which effects fuel economy also