Towing 11,000 pounds with a Ford F-150 Lightning... MAXED OUT!

Yeah Electric Trucks are fun - but can they DO stuff? Today we find out how far the Ford F-150 Lightning can tow its MAX payload of 11,000lbs. Huge thanks to Weigh Safe for sponsoring this video: www.weigh-safe.com/jre150 And thanks to Ford for letting me borrow the F-150 Lightning. Sorry for going over the max capacity - i dont count good.
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[@SupernovaeTech]

Now we need the Rivian retested and both the HMMWV EV and Hummer EV tested the same way. A leaderboard of electric trucks with towing range and acceleration would be pretty sweet as more options reach the market.

[@kingzach74]

He already tested the Rivian.

[@SupernovaeTech]

@@kingzach74 It would be interesting to see how much the range improves in warmer weather

[@hazard_209]

​@@SupernovaeTech plus tires and figuring the tongue weight in.

[@Mr_MikeMikeMike]

@@kingzach74 hence the "retested"

[@bitelogger]

Totally agreed

[@jd5179]

12 secs while towing 10k lbs of weight is insane

[@roosoorschot93]

While going up!

[@XLRSAv]

My Honda Ridgeline does that by itself on a dry day! 😅

[@chadd587]

Range: 50 miles

[@blue_ig1]

@@chadd587 it had about a hundred

[@chadd587]

@@blue_ig1 lol yeah on a full charge too

[@davidhuber6251]

It's nice seeing a test like this with no obvious bias. Good job.

[@alkalk8938]

That backup assist is awesome for backing a jetski trailer, those short trailers are a PIA. With the rear camera and the backup assist it a POC...Piece Of Cake!

[@XLRSAv]

Nothing like Zack pushing the limits of every vehicle!

[@YAHUWAHISKING]

You mean shilling

[@Mr.BobsDog]

You mean pineapple

[@andrasbrunczel3777]

He is pushing literally everything to its limits

[@kyohiromitsu4010]

Too much monry

[@techs1smh13]

I want the H1 take my DMAX engine trans install.

[@MumstheThird]

That's my e-GOLF charging next to you that's rated for 124 miles. It's crazy that you can match my range while towing 10K.

[@coldnapalmFJ]

Well the lightning was 100k how much was your golf cart ?

[@MumstheThird]

@coldnapalmFJ MSRP was $31K, back in 2017. But the dealer discounted it $4K, NY state paid for $2K, and then I got the $7.5k federal rebate, so not factoring taxes and registration, I paid $17.5k and VW fiananced it at 0%.

[@ndafarachaitezvi1139]

Awesome as always.Thanks for sharing and taking us along

[@haydenwhite2413]

Great video about an amazing truck! I haven't needed to tow anything in mine yet, so this is very helpful info. Thanks!

[@camb9319]

Great content as always. Love the drone shots, pretty cool being able to see portions of your drive from above and following along with Google Maps. :)

[@bryce6870]

Very insightful video! Enjoyed how you showed the reverse pilot on the Ford lighting!

[@Marksin866]

I love your voice. You have this calm voice during teardown's you don't strain or force words just smooth and and you pronounce you words on key. You make a mistake there is no silent pause no awkwardness like you meant for it. And most people like that seem emotionless when they speak but you're not. You can hear the variations and tone changes. It's a very calming voice. You would make a very good interrogator. While someone is trying to get under your skin to make themselves fire up and become defensive. You remain calm and throw them off their game. It's just WOW! Rare to hear a voice like that.

[@danieltaylor4819]

Try it in the wintertime, when it's snowing and blowing with outside temp of 10 degrees. That would be interesting.

[@MeltingRubberZ28]

Yeah with the heater blasting

[@Johnny-es1wl]

Lol, 5 miles at best.

[@bfields1448]

Junk

[@Ragranos]

Nah then you guys would just invent some other niche unlikely scenario where ICE beats EV. You search for the conditions that make EVs bad because you're scared.

[@lumicolour1]

Only if he tests a fossil powered truck under the same conditions.

[@shawntoadally]

I want to see this done with the Rivian again, under the same conditions (spring weather, road tires). If you do, it would be good to know if Rivian has provided any software updates since your first towing test (perhaps they've improved the range estimations when towing and/or added options to see more data on the screen).

[@navithefairy]

Especially the cold weather makes a really big difference

[@zachbendixen21]

Rivian increased the range by around 20 miles since his test via a software update.

[@cruiser97eric1]

Also the route followed and the average speed needs to be the same to have a fair comparison.

[@SaltySouthTexan]

@@navithefairy Not in a gasoline truck!

[@SaltySouthTexan]

@@zachbendixen21 20 whole miles??? HAHAHAHAHAHA. I could almost make it halfway out of the ranch.

[@CraigMatsuura]

Love to see all trucks tow, especially here in Utah. Maybe try something many do where they tow there boat up to Strawberry go fishing and drive back down to the valley. I personally would like to see if a 18 to 20 bass boat (dual axle) can be towed to strawberry and back. Or a longer trip to Flaming Gorge, where you would need to charge on the way there. A boat is a bit more aerodynamic so it would be interesting, and less weight. BTW: Great job Zack!

[@Hobbies4Hire]

Great job on the video Zack! Thanks for making it.

[@glennlisagore]

Awesome content, thank you Ford for the loan. Great interesting video.

[@motorv8N]

Fantastic video thanks -must admit it went further that I thought it would. Awesome reverse assist. Been backing up trailers for close on 40 years so it doesn’t intimidate me but that’s a nice feature anyway! Unfortunately that truck is still way too expensive to meet my ROI expectations as a simple weekend warrior…

[@davedavenport8673]

Have you done the Total Cost to Operate calcs? It might surprise you. Most people only calculate monthly payment since many ICE vehicles are the close to the same on other operating costs, but EVs are different. You can have higher payments because fuel is way cheaper and very little cost on maintenance.

[@phakyou]

9:53 Goes to show the crazy amount of engineering that goes into making these machines efficient. No one could've seen this coming 20 years ago.

[@tschuuuls486]

Other than GM, that had an awesome electric car but killed it (GM EV1).

[@randho5150]

Elon saw it coming.

[@kyohiromitsu4010]

Yeah for all that money i could buy a semi truck

[@Ryan-sw3km]

​@@tschuuuls486 that thing was kinda a junker. The battery was crap in anything but super ideal conditions

[@ryanvirgil1395]

electric vehicles have always been more efficient than gas ones. This is why your gas engine gets so dang hot because it's less than 35% efficient (all waste heat). EV is like 85% efficient.

[@justinsugay1149]

Super useful. This is inspiring. Not yet ideal but not as bad as I thought. Much better actually. Same test under cold conditions would be also useful. Thank you!

[@kennedy98796]

it would be a lot different in colder weather, even hand held lithium tools have a shorter battery when its cold

[@TheOpinionatedYouTuber]

Zach, you are a national treasure. Your videos are always informative, entertaining, and well-produced. I love the way you use drone shots to capture the beauty of Utah, and I always learn something new from your videos. I'm particularly impressed by your commitment to electric vehicles. You're doing a great job of educating people about the benefits of EVs, and you're helping to make the world a better place. Keep up the great work, Zach! I'm a big fan of your channel, and I can't wait to see what you do next.

[@-.-..._...-.-]

I also like all the other films you are in where you are a doctor, firefighter, teacher, action hero etc. You're my favorite entertainer

[@investingjim2801]

I am here for the drone shots....and I am not disappointed. Those snow covered mountains!

[@gcauldwell]

Now, I MUST go back and watch the entire thing again!

[@paulsmyers203]

Thanks a ... 5 tons for making the video! Definitely need to retest the R1T in similar conditions. Tires and temperature make an enormous difference.

[@danielholland8255]

Very cool video, thanks for sharing. I a, 3 days into XLT ownership and LOVE it. I’m also a Polestar performance owner, but this trumps it with range…

[@raysmith4309]

Excellent, honest test of the Lightening. For the moment I had already ruled out EV's, as we have a travel trailer and needing to stop every 100 miles or so and wait 30+ minutes to charge is not practical. Thanks for your report

[@stangman962]

Also have you seen an accessible charger with a trailer attached??

[@oldmanrock7542]

Same here. Traveling with a camp trailer is not going to work with an EV.

[@wishusknight3009]

The best place I see EV Trucks working is either a local delivery or if all your work with your tool trailer is local. With in this scenario i can see these trucks having huge advantages, but perhaps not much outside that.

[@jarmis777]

You should redo the Rivian test in this same weather. I bet they’re neck and neck! The previous winter drive in the Rivian puts it at a significant disadvantage.

[@Aragorn450]

The real question would be if Rivian fixed their range estimates. That was the biggest issue with the Rivian's test...

[@jarmis777]

@@Aragorn450 that as well

[@ericroe]

The weather I'm sure played a big part of it, but remember the Rivian is more aerodynamic than the Lightning, so the Lighting will loose slightly less range than the Rivian with the non-aerodynamic load behind it.

[@jarmis777]

@@ericroe good point.

[@USUG0]

indeed, as it always comes down to aerodynamic drag, the larger frontal area of the lighting as compared to the rivian, comes in handy when towing a brick like the hummer. Poking out slightly less.

[@markcluff7104]

Great review dude!! Good job

[@SimonPollock]

Great vid! THat backup feature is rad. Very much looking forward to your take on CYbErTruCk

[@craigbucci7950]

Great video! The lightning did better than I thought!

[@robertdoyle8785]

I don't understand why the EV crowd keeps under estimating FoMoCo and GMs electric offerings. Yes, they aren't always going to be on the cutting edge of technology like a start up like Rivian or new kid on the block Tesla. But none in the world has more experience building pickups than they do. There is a reason Rivian made a partnership with Ford to begin with.

[@Caseys_Yaris_that_could]

7:13 so if you switch it to one pedal mode, it actually applies full re-gen as soon as you let off. You can come to a complete stop without using the brake on one pedal too

[@JerryRigEverything]

I normally have one pedal mode enabled. But when I switched to tow mode it disabled one pedal driving.

[@Scott-sm9nm]

Good nugget there. thx. -- "SWITCHING ONE PEDAL DRIVE ON AND OFF -- Press CONTROLS; Press Drive Modes; Switch 1-Pedal Drive on or off."

[@IGmeanwell]

Yep Lightning disables one pedal while in Tow/Haul mode. Can’t really control the regen.

[@wolfpack09nh48]

Bro… it’s against physics to keep regen/stopping with a trailer attached..it can get jackknifed for being stupid

[@Scott-sm9nm]

@@wolfpack09nh48, A well designed regen system will work just like regular brakes as far as trailer towing is concerned. Regen systems can turn on the brake lights and thus trigger the trailer brakes as well just as if you manually were applying physical brakes. In a few electric vehicles I've owned the brake lights turn on during 'harder' regen. In fact, there are laws/regulations related to the G force limits when brake lights are engaged.

[@goodness6664]

Thank you for clarifying this time that the power for towing isn’t the issue, rather range 😎😀

[@gmquiroa]

Enjoy watching your honest review. F150 Lightning Lariat owner and I like the Rivian as well.

[@KAALA432]

Those Drone shots are good 👀👍

[@gregsimpson621]

I figured 150 miles before you started. Overall, I am impressed with this electric Ford F 150. I can see me using it to tow my favorite antique RV trailer. Great information, as usual!!! Thanks Zack!

[@nanooseguy327]

great video, great info. Thanks for that !!

[@brawnto]

IF that ever comes out, zing! Nice work, I love my Lightning Pro although I haven't towed with it yet.

[@675daytonarider]

According to Rivian the A/T tires rob 54 miles of range. As a fellow Rivian owner I’d be interested in those results. Love the content.

[@hdvictoryford5329]

Rivian R1T Owner's $42,000 Repair Bill - The Shocking Cost Of A Minor Fender Bender On A $73,000 Electric Truck

[@paramotorbrandon]

1:07 well the warmer temps alone will make the range go up quite a bit. Definitely do it again with the Rivian in this weather for a good comparison!

[@SN-hn9zi]

He says that at the beginning

[@kazzxtrismus]

rivian battery is heated....itll only effect the first few minutes (maybe 20 mins?)

[@derteater]

​@@kazzxtrismus wanna tell me how they heat up the batteries?

[@kingzach74]

@@kazzxtrismus That probably actually killed the range from the fact that it had to heat up the batteries.

[@wildepawthefox]

@@kazzxtrismusWarmer air is less dense, meaning it’ll have less effects on the car. The drag in hot air is smaller than cold air. Nothing to do with heated batteries

[@hedleypepper1838]

Awsome job Ford, that reverse assist is incredible, want it for my caravan 😊

[@jackpmeadows]

Always great. I kept waiting for you to do a teardown like on the phones.

[@spoolin55psi]

A mild package super duty has lots of those features as well including the trailor park assist which if you can actually back a trailor up the assist is actually confusing

[@AdamEdward]

super impressive, for daily towing a lighter load with landscaping equipment etc, this would have more than enough range to get around town. good job ford!

[@lemongavine]

Around town, you’ll get much more range vs. freeway driving so yeah, it would do great for that. You could probably even have enough excess energy to charge electric mowers, trimmers, etc. from the onboard outlets. If I were starting a landscaping company, I would 100% have electric equipment and and electric truck. Cost savings would add up quickly.

[@fastfed]

And yet not 1 single professional bought this truck for professional use lmfao . Evs are useless

[@logitech4873]

@@fastfed Source: trust me bro

[@kyleftw1679]

​@@logitech4873You're a liberal, so you can't even trust your own assigned gender.

[@justing224]

@@fastfed in Madison WI, the city gas sector switched to pretty much all Lightnings

[@erickjuarez4074]

Great vid! Can't wait for the test on the CyberTruck.

[@uglycouzin]

So glad you made this video. I put my order in three weeks ago.

[@Yielar1]

Thanks for the towing test video. The Lightning is an impressive truck that's for sure. I know it's more interesting to push the limits and it's nice to see but people aren't buying a Lightning to tow 10,000 lbs typically. Of course, it's nice to have the option for around town. Since most people drive 30-40 miles per day they would charge maybe once per week or so. I'm currently driving the F150 Powerboost Hybrid and I'm reallly enjoying the extra power of the electric powertrain. I may pick up the 2nd Gen Lightning when I'm in the market for my next truck. Exciting times!

[@hdvictoryford5329]

Rivian R1T Owner's $42,000 Repair Bill - The Shocking Cost Of A Minor Fender Bender On A $73,000 Electric Truck

[@Yielar1]

@@hdvictoryford5329 strange post. Crazy high repair bills happen every second for ice vehicles as well. Guess that's what insurance is for hey

[@WSW0424]

Have you seen the new 2024 Toyota Tacoma? They moved away from the V6 to the hybridized 2.4-liter turbocharged V4 engine. Should be around 25-29 MPG (depending on if you get the TRD Pro with all terrains and other mods that effect mpg) but, they haven't released those figures yet. The TRD Pro looks badass.

[@Scott-sm9nm]

Incredible variety of camera angles and displays really put these videos over the top. Love the content and explanations. One thing was unclear and that is why 2 stalls needed to be taken up. Seemed like one would have fit OK.

[@JerryRigEverything]

I probably could fit in one stall... If I was more confident in my backing up skilz.

[@chriso847]

Great job. Very informative without bias and BS. From everything I’ve heard the lightning is a great truck.

[@newscoulomb3705]

I'd be really interested to see this run in the Chevy Silverado EV when it comes out as well. If Tesla is leaning too hard on aerodynamics for their Cybertruck range, it could be the most negatively affected EV truck when it comes to towing large, heavy loads. Ultimately, it will come down to battery size, and 1 mi/kWh is pretty much my rule of thumb for fullsize EV truck efficiency when towing.

[@ninostephen]

Damn that's impressive!

[@KevinRDunn]

thanks for the test. I would love a Ford Maverick Lightning. Just don't need the fullsize truck anymore.

[@paulmortensen6294]

That back up assist system looked pretty cool.

[@thebigdogsmac11]

I own a mini electric vehicle myself! Very fun to drive! It's a hoverboard! It has some power!🤣

[@dylandero9069]

Great video test like this must be done on these electric trucks and comparisons between different brands is super important. Honestly my only issue with any of it is idk how anybody can justify waiting 40 minutes to get a full “tank.” Would drive me insane.

[@crashedking1931]

and then only another 100 miles

[@gumshoe-tech]

it would add another 3 hours to a 5 hour trip for me......

[@leerjet1868]

How about eating, and then take a shit. Read a magazine while shitting.

[@aw9085]

kills me too.... maybe with the tesla chargers it will be better

[@ScottJWaldron]

It's fun seeing these electric vehicles tested out. I'll be living vicariously through you for this stuff most likely. 😄 Nice job on the video!

[@hdvictoryford5329]

Rivian R1T Owner's $42,000 Repair Bill - The Shocking Cost Of A Minor Fender Bender On A $73,000 Electric Truck

[@scottgridley477]

I happened to be eating lunch with my wife the day this was filmed and happened to see you from about 100 yards away. I didn't even realize you were in a Ford Lightning. Cool video.

[@JosephBeltran48]

Great video love it from start

[@billpaxton1345]

Can't wait to tow my boat with one of these. The 3.5 hr trip from St Louis to lake of the Ozarks will only take 4 days with charging. What an awesome future!

[@johnclesi3758]

I personally would have used chain lanyards not ratchet straps. But I would say a good review on this video.

[@austinvanderberg3748]

he used a backup bungeee. all good.

[@jeremyogburn732]

Cyber truck for sure. I've been saving and will trade in my WRX STI when it drops. My brother has a model 3 and will do the same. So stoked for it to come out!

[@GetGoodGaming69]

Very impressed by what Ford has built i need that truck

[@reversedon8698]

I want to see same test 15 years later and 250k miles on the dash how it had effected the range

[@hdvictoryford5329]

Rivian R1T Owner's $42,000 Repair Bill - The Shocking Cost Of A Minor Fender Bender On A $73,000 Electric Truck

[@jeffdroz5294]

This is wild. I started looking at how to convert an old HMV to electric just 3 days ago, and found your videos. I’ve got the Lightning and identical trailer and was imagining hauling the old beast exactly like you’ve done here. Thanks for all the good content! I’ll let you know how mine works out.

[@MrTophr]

Looks like a spring time test is needed with the Rivian, for a more even comparison

[@garysgarage.2841]

This is the most unbiased review of a none sponsored product I've ever seen.😂

[@Aragorn450]

I wonder if Ford will/does disable the second motor when you're at speed? It seems like it'd help give even better efficiency. From an outside view of never driving any of these, I've been happy with what Ford did with the F150 Lightning and it's great to see their software is doing so well since that's an area I'd expect an older company to do worse in actually.

[@naarealy]

IIRC Ford uses PM motors for both front and rear. There is no disconnect or freewheeling clutch, so essentially the motors must be powered 100% of the time. The reduction ratio is different front to rear, so the power output is shifted (slightly) front/rear depending on which motor is most efficient at a given speed/load.

[@mendelmarozov888]

Obviously we would want to see it for the cyber truck 😜 if it ever comes out

[@santanat.7206]

That unibody truck ? 😂

[@davedavenport8673]

@@santanat.7206 We will have to wait and see what the design changes do to the original spec of 14k towing capacity for the tri-motor. Guessing that goes down.

[@cactustweeter2890]

Great video. Yes do the cyber truck if and when it comes out.

[@FGLKPaul]

Love finally seeing a good towing test for the lightning! The parking situation at the chargers highlights the one single issue there is with towing long distance with an EV though... We need better charging infrastructure for towing with trailers!

[@fremue9312]

Only getting ~100miles is also not great for long distances. Of course it can be done but it will get pretty difficult and annoying if you have to stop ever 1.5 to 2h to charge for at least 30min. I think it’s mainly worth it for people who mostly tow stuff close to their home.

[@jailor1869]

“One single issue?”…there are too many to count

[@rakeemGTR]

I'm not even a car guy, let alone a truck guy, but you've sold me on the lightning 😂

[@fjalics]

How much do you know about the lightning? That frunk is really well done, and the power in the frunk sounds really nice. It even has 220V in the back. The pack in the lightning is in a completely different weight class than a starter battery. You don't do anything to it playing the radio.

[@REAPEROFTOES]

I am really holding out for a Maverick Lighting. I don't need a truck for towing and what not but I'd like a truck bed for my bikes.

[@gabrielgalaxygh]

They're around 100k somif you buy it you're a moron unfortunately. A fool and his money are easily parted

[@safetylast911]

Remember that was starting at 100% you will never be starting at 100% when towing distance. Like taking your trailer camping or boat to the lake. So 100 miles is optimistic. Get gas/diesel for towing electric for cars

[@dawsongranger4940]

I still wouldn’t get an electric truck for towing. If you’re road-tripping or using a camper an electric truck is useless. 100 miles is nowhere’s near enough for towing applications. Maybe in 10-15 years when some new battery is invented

[@4ee]

The low range is a killer for EV trucks especially when you use it usually in rough conditions

[@vidznstuff1]

30MPGe in this truck while towing 10,000 is not a killer at all. Most contractors drive 65 miles a day tops and fuel is a huge expense.

[@JamieGuzmam]

Evs qre trash absolutely trash

[@cliffordmontana4562]

@@vidznstuff1 Fuel is a big expense, but you can get a gas xl trim f150 for 45-50k and you have LOTS of money for gas. 10 years worth approximately. And in ten years these batteries will be toast. I’m not against electric vehicles, I’m against democrats shoving them down our throats. If you tow, take long vacations or don’t have a garage with a charger to park in, then electric vehicles are terrible.

[@francismarion6400]

So do people charge those trucks in their garages?

[@Subwolfer7564]

@@cliffordmontana4562 You're against EV's. Tired of people coming out saying they hate them because of politics (nonexistent laws based on republican fearmongering tactics), then turning it around and claiming they're neutral. nobody has forced anything. 10 years is a very low number based on real world statistics (its cited on the right with nothing factual behind it). 45-50k is a stretch with these stealer ships

[@Jon-kg6hm]

The backup assist is badass!

[@Crazyreseller]

Definitely test the CT…and it will come out, eventually, hopefully, fingers crossed, 🙏🏻.

[@GraingerProductions]

I love your truck videos. Heck yeah to the cyber truck.

[@colbygarrett03]

I pulled 10k behind a 2003 Chevy Silverado 1500 5.3L and it did hurt the milage, but it didn't hurt the range that bad

[@kosiranze]

you do realize though that mileage and range are EXACTLY proportional to eachother?

[@wordreet]

OMG! Love the reversing with trailer function!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@ericblanchard5873]

Yes do the tow test with the Cybertruck. I am just about last in line to get my Cybertruck(2-3 years after everyone else). I def want the 3-4 motor version with like 500 miles range. Can't wait, but only if I can come up with the funds, I am super poor and about to be homeless and already disabled, wish I could win a small lotto to just get an e-truck to live in and use to tow short ranges for a living but I have to live in this world where that stuff doesn't happen to people like me. Anyways, your videos make my day. Thank you very much! I love to watch everthing electrified from e-bikes/e-scooters to e-planes/manned drones etc. And even a green type e-house lol ps: your hummer is sooooo cool, I always wanted that style hummer. Good luck to your many more videos to come.

[@rasberry4739]

It’s cool that your maxing out the towing and giving us the results. But most people that buy an electric truck are not towing this much. It wouldn’t mKe sense. I wanna see how far you can tow a 4000lbs travel trailer.

[@cherrytreepermaculture756]

Honestly aerodynamics matter much more than weight with an EV. Check out All Electric Family.

[@rkan2]

​@@cherrytreepermaculture756Not just EV :P

[@TheRealLink]

For some reason I thought the Lightning might do worse but still pretty neat. Please tell me you'll repeat a test like this once the Cybertruck comes out since that's really hyping up the towing capability!

[@H20-Water-Pro-LLC]

Should tow a bumper pull camper of the same weight. The wind drag would be interesting to observe.

[@erhardt1477]

Ford did do a very nice job indeed sir… My hat is of to them FORD TEAM 👍 Greetings from Germany everybody 👋

[@ssoffshore5111]

Cool hitch (although I guess it should be for several hundred $)! That backup feature is super slick too!

[@vincentfauconnier1460]

would be worth repeating the rivian to have a fair comparison

[@davenz000]

The best kind of comparison test is one where the conditions are different.....yeah.

[@Emolokz]

You should definitely re-test the Rivian in similar weather conditions! And the Hummer too, for giggles.

[@antiLGTBQ]

"its not sponsored, but its completely sponsored"

[@MichaelSinz]

With out F150 Lightning and the 4-hour trailer (which is basically a big 25 foot long, 8.5 x 8.5 foot box (height and width) box (with rounded front), the big cost is aerodynamic drag on the highway. We get around 1 mile/kWh when doing long trips (just did 110 mile round trip yesterday) I do wish that we could get a bit more range - would need more batteries. But when you consider than the batteries in the F150 has the energy equivalent of just under 4 gallons of gasoline, that is really not a bad range while towing nearly 10,000 pounds of bulky trailer. (PS - aerodynamic drag is much more of an impact than weight when traveling at highway speeds)

[@roosoorschot93]

Exactly! It's efficient. And refining the oil also costs a lot of energy, because it happens at a few hundred degrees.

[@lesstevens2370]

I would say it has the equivalent of 7 gallons of gas because of the inefficiency of gas motors only being around 30% the rest of the fuel goes out your tail pipe and your engine bay by heat

[@MichaelSinz]

@@lesstevens2370 Well, you can say that but that is not right either. Would be more like 8 if you want to count the inefficiency but then my 2500HD only got 8 mpg when towing the horse trailer which would be 64 miles with 8 gallons and yet the Ford will do 120 with the trailer at highway speeds. (Ok, the 2500HD is older and has a massive v8 gasoline engine, but still) The physics of gasoline is that 1 gallon of gasoline is around 33.7 kwh of energy.- thus with getting around 1 mile per kwh, the Lightning is around 33.7mpg equivalent when towing at highway speeds with that big trailer.

[@lesstevens2370]

@Michael Sinz I agree with your statement yet it is being manipulated by big oil and gas because of the usd being based on oil and not the gold standard so evs threatens the very thing that drives the American society and now because of corruption and greed the very thing that made America great is gone and now it's an empty shell living off its had beens for the last 50 years and that is an empty tank that is full of nothing but gas fumes that could explode any minute there is a spark of opposition

[@johnfitbyfaithnet]

Thanks for sharing

[@moremoney1704]

Really need to test these trucks on I-8 in So Cal, going from sea level to 4000 feet in a span of 13 miles in 95 + degrees temps!

[@angeltysonswe]

You know, the Nissan Leaf shows the temperature of the batteries.

[@camonly849]

Pulled my 5500lb trailer with my dad's 16 f150 2.7. Towed it 180 miles to the track, towed it back, and still had 100 more miles if not more of range.....man I love gas 🤣

[@michaelallen2870]

AWESOME COMMENT

[@eagle25311]

I love diesel more. 600 miles of range.

[@camonly849]

@Ryan M ya idk if it's worth it with light weight. You might get 2 mpgs better...which isn't anything.

[@alekseyabramchuk6718]

I love my Cummins more

[@camonly849]

@@alekseyabramchuk6718 diesel is awesome, but it would upset me if I got the same mpg and am paying more in gas.

[@michaelmackey754]

Great video…I’m waiting for a F-350 lightning

[@draytonlav]

Bro I totally saw you filming when you stopped in AF by the Costco! Pulled over and everything and then chickened out when I was going to come say hi! Love your wholesome videos! Big fan

[@JerryRigEverything]

Lol, say hi next time! Always fun meeting people out in real life.

[@draytonlav]

@@JerryRigEverything will do :)

[@brianbaker9893]

So, this confirms, again, towing with an EV any considerable distance would be a complete pain. Great to see a station where you can tow without disconnecting the trailer though. The torque is insane and superior here, but not realistic for vast majority of regular haulers. Will be cool to see when the energy density of batteries improves!! And that 12 seconds, nuts.

[@whiteknight1246]

I would love to see if you can engineer a trailer with a regen braking system for the trailer wheels, and a full solar bank on the roof that feed the EVs batteries, and see if you can significantly improve the range while towing. Because the range to charge time is a barrier to switching over from a diesel.

[@amphedroxyn4251]

If the wheels are charging they're dragging..

[@DinDooIt]

@@amphedroxyn4251 I see a lot of people not getting that point.

[@davedavenport8673]

@@amphedroxyn4251 I believe he means regen when using a trailer brake. Trailer brake probably not used enough to justify the weight of the motor, controller and batteries though and then max load is lower with those items added to the weight of the trailer.

[@eagle25311]

There's a reason electric vehicles don't have solar panels on the roof from the factory.

[@whiteknight1246]

@@eagle25311 i get that but the roof of my trailer is 28 feet long x 10 ish feet wide.the roof of the rivian is 6 feet long, and i understand that regen always isnt a thing, but i assume the e trucks have a brake controller stopping the wheels on the trailer which is energy lost to heat.

[@mr.waffles8739]

Wow that back up assist seems amazing

[@danielbalcan6270]

Of course that we want to see the new eHummer towing your diy ehummer!

[@ralanham76]

Definitely need to retest the Rivian in the same weather, so it's an apples to apples comparison

[@carholic-sz3qv]

Also maybe the Rivian wasnt switching many electric motors off while already driving! With more electric motors only used for launching the vehicle they mostly use one or two while already at speed

[@Levi_Holiday]

It would be cool if you could do it with the cybertruck. Can't wait. How many people looked at you while filming on the top of a hummer?😂

[@kpl9439]

If they ever going to make it.

[@Levi_Holiday]

@@kpl9439 they will, just wait.

[@kpl9439]

​@@Levi_Holiday waiting, that you most definitely will do.

[@Sayin42]

Ford has done amazing with this Lightning, awesome!

[@zevi]

Definitely want to see a cybertruck review and towing!!

[@moosenuckle88]

Time to haul the Electric Hummer with an Electric Hummer 🤔