Electric vs Petrol... which is fastest on track? | MINI SE vs S

[@dontom2218]

Great Video. And now Testing Honda-e vs Mini-SE.

[@Bauer2sPro]

I bought a Mini Electric, before I saw this vid! Glad I did, thanks. Great comparison 👍👏🏼

[@SuperUltrawide4K]

I've just chopped in my Cooper S Sport for a Mini Electric, the wait is October though :(

[@BarryShite25]

How's the SE going mate? Mines due in March 😭

[@sky7111]

After watching this video. Might sold me a mini electric 🤣🤣🤣 great video

[@SytnerTV]

Do it! It is a great car!

[@sjoroverpirat]

Buy the i3s instead.

[@papugenas]

@@sjoroverpirat the same parts just cost twice

[@SarahS-zq8ru]

Right? My only reservation would be giving up the stick shift. Driving even brand new (any/ take your pick gasoline/ petrol) cars in automatic, I’ve yet to be impressed by the torch, and (in my experience) not one can even compare to the get up and go of a mini in manual transmission, so I’m super curious to see the comparison (of manual to the electric). I’m assuming this comparison was between an automatic...

[@Fn2_farlz]

@@SarahS-zq8ru I've had one as a courtesy car recently and believe me, the torque is phenomenal on the mini electric. As a petrol head I can't believe I'm saying it but it really is!

[@VgAce135]

Ordered mine a month ago and it is slated to be built this week! So excited!

[@SytnerTV]

Fantastic! Enjoy.

[@uktechie8013]

Good to see

[@kiwiswede]

Waiting for my mini SE to arrive. Only a few weeks left.

[@EVoLutionAutoDrivingSchool]

Stop telling everyone! The petrolheads are going to eventually swallow their pride, accept that instant torque combined with heavy regen gives performance benefits. Once you accept that noise = wasted energy that could be going to the wheels, then the GTI and Scooby squad are going to be getting them and beating us in our 'boring milk floats'.

[@angus3963]

😂 "swallow pride" proof you don't really understand what makes some people passionate about non-evs.

[@whocares264]

@@angus3963 like steam train enthusiast..

[@ThaDutchDK1989]

Nurburgring lap times say different things… a taycan turbo s is slower than a panamera turbo s by 8-10 seconds 😂

[@jimf4748]

@@ThaDutchDK1989 Totally irrelevant in the real world however.

[@dagee4772]

Yeah there great until the batteries go after 6 years and you need the price of the car to replace them..... EVs aint the future. They were a test to see what idiot would buy one.

[@raymondwong2521]

Thank you for nailing the video exactly where it counts the most for a MINI, its driving dynamics and handling - i.e. driving pleasure !!!! By the way, my wife has a MINI S, the seats are very comfortable. Love it and it is very cute! Now, I need to tell my wife that her car has been beaten by its new electric brother !!!!

[@SytnerTV]

Thank you so much for your feedback, I am glad you enjoyed the video and it is great to hear that you and your wife love your MINI.

[@whocares264]

wow great video......i am an EV fan and i am surprised ...fantastic

[@RillianThacker]

Agreed.

[@richardmarkfielding]

Great video! Hurrah for MINI Electric!

[@nikjac79]

Electric? No thanks! I want the SOUND!!!

[@richardmarkfielding]

@@nikjac79 that’s what the harman kardons are for!

[@paulo3564]

Who has knows how good it is!

[@RoXoNpRo501]

Nice video 👍 Mine will be delivered in 2 weeks, however I dislike the tiny vmax of 150km/h a lot - as a german I like to give it a solid pedal to the metal here and there.. Probably not going to keep it forever for that reason, but still excited about it :)

[@zefram47]

Out of curiosity, what tires were on the two cars? Were they the same?

[@SytnerTV]

They were both running on the exact same tyres to make sure the times were as trustworthy as possible.

[@martivila4834]

Good video, nice comparison in a karting track, well, I wonder if in a faster track mini SE will win?

[@SytnerTV]

That would be an interesting one, hmmm...

[@wesflack992]

Top speed limits of SE will lose on faster tracks.

[@SWR112]

Not enough range to take on a road trip or holiday if it’s not your second Car. The difference is five years, oh wait that’s how far this car is behind on range to some of the competitors. The S will drive spiritedly up the west coast of Scotland say from a Glasgow to Ullapool taking the scenic route for six or seven hours with a ten minute top up of petrol and not miss a beat .This SE will get to to Fort William at just over a hundred miles and you’ll have to charge for 30-40 minutes then repeat every 100 miles or so if pushing on and enjoying the roads. Not everyone buys a MINI as a second Car and a few of us like a decent road trip in them. They had the MINI E in California in 2009 that did 96 miles to a charge, granted no rear seats, this is hardly a leap forward. We’ve had five MINI’s and I was even one of the first to sit in a SE here in the U.K. it drives fantastic let down by poor range that’s more 2012 than 2020. Second gen maybe when this version steps up and stops hiding behind the excuse “it’s a city Car” for a lack of forward thinking in BMW part to build on there EV platforms. Heads up BMW loyal MINI fan not changing his Car just now as I usually would have because the Model Y made in Giga Berlin looks a real option, alarm bells should be ringing.

[@insightman]

How much fun would a slower, 4,000-pound MINI that costs as much as a Tesla be?

[@joshstreet3919]

I do 100% get what you're saying but if I'm honest, I don't see the range as an issue at all. You say hiding behind the excuse that "it's a city car", its not an excuse, that's what the car is made for. In most instances the car will be a second car, it is more than likely not going to be used for a road trip or holiday. But if it is then you've already thought about that before you buy it. If you do more that what the range can offer then it's simple, the car isn't for you. The MINI Electric isn't meant to be a rival for a Tesla, if you look at the Peugeot e-208 or Vauxhall Corsa-e then yes the range is still lower but at the end of the day it comes down to personal preference. I will admit, at the minute I don't think it is worth the difference. For example, my mum has a Cooper Exclusive and would potentially get the Cooper SE next time around. However, she only does 6000 miles a year which is perfect for the car but the price difference make up for a saving in fuel, it would be there or there abouts at break even - thats before charging costs.

[@SWR112]

Josh It’s dead simple we have had MINI’s since 2007. The more special one has only covered 24k now is six years. I never keep my MINI that long. It was bought split new factory ordered to my spec but it the one that does the fun stuff like holiday and road trips. It was actually one of the first F56 Cars on the road. The second 16 (Nov built) plate has done 127k miles now. I decided my next Car would be EV and I don’t have a MINI option. Last week fri- Sunday i did Glasgow to Duxford (cambridgeshire) Via York on the lower milage Coop on the way down and Cosford on the way back. 837 miles all in and that was really the two days driving 400 plus miles each day and one the Saturday doing only 16 miles. This Car is next week up the highlands that will do probably 900 miles. This is the Car that will do 50-60 miles a week normally but four or five times a year It gets out for decent runs. The disappointment was waiting to see what MINI would bring to the table and finding out a real world range of 120 miles and a Car in it most basic starting for £25k and going to £32k for the level 3. I didn’t say it was a rival to the Tesla as let’s be fair one is a long distance animal that can do 300 plus miles and has a huge charging network and is five year ahead on drivetrain, battery and tech heavy. Tesla was only brought up because as a avid MINI fan I’m probably moving on from the brand after 14 years unless the second gen MINI really does become a holiday / road trip option with 200-300 miles real world.

[@danijelandroid]

It needed a go kart to have a reference.

[@paulduffy697]

How many miles on a charge 🤫

[@alexdubois6585]

More than enough for me as a city car. I prefer it lighter and zippier. I have an old big diesel for going on holidays few times a year. I would have preferred twin engines and 4WD. Can't wait.

[@mowcowbell]

More than I'll ever drive for my daily commute.

[@jackdaniels2905]

About 100. Not sure why previous commenters avoided question.

[@geetee4037]

140 easy in summer, 120 in winter.

[@lawrencemaynard750]

Around 230km or 140miles

[@0ooTheMAXXoo0]

EVs, mainly known for instant torque and low center of gravity is not "supposed" to be fast and handle well? Next you will be surprised that f1 cars are good in corners.

[@Stewiedude1]

Increased mass causing extended breaking zones and reducing cornering capability within equal limitations of the tyres.

[@garrycroft4215]

Great comparison but I wasn't surprised because every acceleration is instant. Another example.. Drag race a BMW i3s v BMW M3 0-30 MPH and 30-60 the i3s wins both. Of course 0-60 it gets slaughtered. All to do with the instant torque.

[@MatteoTortello_com]

Electric is now! ♻️🔋👏💪🔝❤️

[@alonsocaocristino7905]

How many laps the EV can sustain its performance?

[@hoemma]

What do you mean? Until the battery dies. There is no real performance degradation with an electric motor. No turbo charger, no clutch, no drivetrain that could overheat. And you don't need to warm it up, like a petrol motor.

[@alonsocaocristino7905]

the tires will eventually fail due to batterys weight increase,also the battery/motor will overheat and decrease their performance. The are a lot of videos of Teslas doing Nurburgring and the first half of the lap the performance is one thing and the second half is another

[@hoemma]

@@alonsocaocristino7905 I'm aware of this issue, but I don't believe that this will affect the Mini Cooper SE in any similar way. The performance of the motor is much lower and the air intakes at the front are completely overdimensioned, since they just took the chassis of the Cooper S. The engine should get much more cool air than it needs. The 30kWh battery is tiny, compared to any Tesla, which has significant effects on the weight and overall physics when racing on a track. The Model S weights as much as a full size American SUV and has an insane torque, that's why the tires degrade so fast. The high performance engine can also drain much more power from the battery, especially if you have the 2-motor-version. That's why the battery overheats so fast. The Mini SE is still using the antiquated engine from the BMW i3, which was never designed for performance, but efficiency.

[@Mexxx65]

500th Like! This youtube video, may just have swayed my opinion on EV cars!

[@bobosborne1573]

Imagine evs racing lol we would have to come back next day to watch race. As they will need a long charge lol

[@AdvofFlaboy]

I have an S and I agree I am badass

[@benschepps6494]

Does the SE come with a spare tyre/tire or are they equipped with run-flats, or standard tyres/tires and a can of puncture sealant in the boot?

[@SytnerTV]

The SE comes with run flat tyres and has a puncture repair kit in the boot.

[@lemongavine]

The last four cars I have owned didn’t come with a spare tyre. Ever since cell phones became ubiquitous, spare tyres are not as necessary. I’d rather call at tow truck than risk my life changing a tire on the side of the road. Without a spare, there is less weight to lug around and more room for storage.

[@insightman]

@@SytnerTV The few MINI Cooper SEs in the US do not have run-flats. Do MINIs with run-flats normally come with a puncture repair kit?

[@joshstreet3919]

​@@insightman No you get one or the other, if you have run flat tyres you wouldn't have a repair kit in the boot.

[@erolcoulson9194]

Wow , I'm getting a mini electric car ...

[@nigelweir3852]

Wife just got new mini ev , super car

[@nuIlIllI]

The video in a nutshell: t H i S I s b R I L l i A N t

[@joshgutierrez7380]

Clip that apex clip that apex clip that apex clip that apex clip that apex

[@joshgutierrez7380]

No noise no noise no noise no noise no shit it’s electric

[@MatteoTortello_com]

♻️🔋👏💪🔝❤️

[@markhagge8646]

Are you on Mini's payroll?

[@Dudewheresmym3]

Loads of grip because the car is not fast lol

[@lemongavine]

780 RACING CHANNEL low center of gravity with weight of batteries down low causes less body lean and therefore better tire contact patch. It had a much faster time so not slower.

[@geetee4037]

Dumbest comment on KZbin.

[@LyrionLee]

Does the E lap include having to stop halfway to recharge? 🤣

[@whocares264]

yes it did and the E mini was still faster

[@sorinelpustiu5674]

@@whocares264 lol good one

[@geterpriffin4354]

Mini without sound isnt fun

[@mowcowbell]

Mini without sound is fun without drawing any attention to yourself.

[@whocares264]

Mini without pollution isn't fun

[@rajindernijjer]

On smooth track do road battle and the electric will be in a ditch.

[@1970boggy]

No it is not! Stop promoting China

[@angus3963]

An automatic?!? 🙄

[@danielcarvajalblanco3476]

Mini se? Only one gear.

[@FrankyFeedler]

@@danielcarvajalblanco3476 Two. Reverse.

[@siraff4461]

Run it again and launch the petrol properly - there's the difference. Or take it to a proper track and watch the S clear off.

[@nickbaker4857]

So you think the Mini Challenge race winner doesn't know how to drive a mini round a track..............

[@rtfazeberdee3519]

that sounds desperate :)

[@sorinelpustiu5674]

Are you sad that EVs are better?

[@whocares264]

I agree the petrol mini should launch with its engine not running like so many stop start fossils.

[@litecashAngel]

electric car with 100 HP is not the same like a gasoline car with 100 HP. The EV has no heat. So its cheating. You actually need 180 HP gasoline car if you want it a fair comparison with the EV. Only then both engines bring the same power to the streets. Because 80HP is going to develop heat in a gasoline car. N0, the future is not E-cars. E-cars are slower, have less range and are simply nonsense.

[@Angelo_Botta]

Yeah... that’s nice. But imagine everyone going electric... unsustainable. Needs a revolution in energy storing first. (the very first car was an electric car back in 1899 but was abandoned probably for the same reason ?).

[@cosmodoc]

Wrong, but I dont have time to explain it