MINI SE 90km/h Range Test

[@ecarfun]

Saw this car on your channel years ago. I bought one, 15,000 miles and 9 months later, I still love this car! So much fun!! And my wife and I have roadripped it a few times without getting towed. We have a gas car, but when we road trip we still choose the Mini SE. (partially for KZbin, but also because WE LOVE IT)

[@modulonatic]

Nice to see that you decided to follow Bjørn Nyland's (aka TeslaBjørn) "some what standard" for range tests. Introduces a nice baseline for consistency. Awesome video, keep it up and stay safe.

[@markfitzpatrick6692]

techaddicted yes Tesla Bjorn is great

[@kens97sto171]

The problem is in the United States at least 56 mph is essentially a useless speed to test that. It certainly allows you to compare perhaps to other countries. But nobody drives 56 mph. I would prefer to see a highway test at a normal highway speed or do both tests ideally. Out here in Central Texas you better go 85 miles per hour or you're going to get run over. That changes the situation significantly.

[@fabriziom]

@@kens97sto171 Bjorn does a 120kph test too (75mph). 85mph is usual here in France for example with our speed limit 80mph. I could get up to 150miles of range in winter at these speeds with my Model 3 SR+, which is great. Have to stop charging for 20min every 1h45. 55mph is anyhow a good average for a commuter car, which that Mini is.

[@kens97sto171]

@@fabriziom Yeah I know the Bjorn does a high-speed test also. Although I tend to see more of the low speed test generally. my point with the mini is that it's not the best overall car for the general public. In the United States generally speaking people want a vehicle that can do everything including a long road trip. Which at this point you could obviously do on the east and west coast north and south as Out of Spec Motoring mentioned. But if you wanted to do cross-country trips east to west you're going to run into some difficulties at least for now. Most of the center of the country the charging stations are about 120 miles apart, and at higher speeds you probably won't make it in the mini. The car is very well priced I will say they got that right, it looks great and has some great features, But right now you can also buy a Chevrolet Bolt EV for even less $25k aprox. Because they are significantly discounted. To me that's the better overall commuter car it's about the same size but has much more interior room a better range and a decent charging curve also at least in the 2020 model.

[@fabriziom]

@@kens97sto171 I agree that for US it may not be the best car that can do it all. I believe this car is a perfect fun to drive commuter, but not much more. It can do road trips but charging every hour is a bit cumbersome. Not for every day . The Bolt EV is a far more capable EV but it's not as fun to drive nor as good looking. So it's actually good news there's more choice in the 25-30k$ range !

[@gregh7387]

Hands down, the best review yet on the SE. I ordered one over a month ago and now the long painful wait for Mini to start up production again. Looking forward to joining the electric vehicle revolution!

[@IkkeVanAdel]

Lucky you, I ordered in december and was about to get mine delivered this week :( . Already waitin nearly 5 months and have no idea how much longer it will take now.

[@stvnbln1964]

@@IkkeVanAdel Same here, mine was scheduled for a May delivery (ordered in December). But I guess I'll have to wait longer.

[@hogster5935]

@@IkkeVanAdel Such bs, factories sucks with orders like that.

[@lambosuperl]

Wow what perfect timing! That's a proper range test 😂

[@JustWasted3HoursHere]

By the way, a worthwhile purchase for ANY EV owner is a Level 2 extension cable that extends the reach of a level 2 J1772 connector. This is good for three purposes: 1 - If you park your car in the driveway but your charge box is inside the garage, or otherwise you need more length 2 - If you get to an EV charging spot and it has been ICE'd but there are spaces next to it 3 - If you're doing a range test and you miscalculate by a few feet... LOL Anyway, they cost about $150-$200 on amazon but might be worth investing in at some point down the road if you run into any of those scenarios. I've seen some that are around 30 feet long, which would help tremendously in a pinch. Could mean the difference between charging and not charging.

[@timoliver8940]

I’ve been a Land And Range Rover owner for the last 35 years bar 2018-2020 when I decided to have a wee change to a Mini Countryman PHEV. The Countryman departed replaced by a New Defender 110 D240 First Edition in June 2020 - today I have placed an order for a U.K. spec Mini Cooper SE Level3 to replace my virtually unused in the last 2 years 1996 Defender 90 TDi300. Have really enjoyed watching ALL your reviews and tests and my choice ended up being between Mini E, Renault Zoe or a used BMW i3s. My longest trips for an ev are about 60 miles round trip so even in the coldest Scottish winter the Mini should be able to cope without needing a recharge at destination, but even if it does it won’t take too long. The New Defender is well up to handling the off-road/4wheeling and long onroad trips with 600 miles range at highway speeds before it grinds to a halt! Only problem with the Mini E in U.K. is lead in time for a factory order - dealer has two build slots available for March 2022 build………….. sold his November 21 slot yesterday!

[@jamesmaddeaux4304]

Love this content!! Out of Spec is America's Bjorn! Kyle has the racetrack and Bjorn the autobahn....EVERYONE WINS!!!

[@TalentedTom91]

This video has just got me even more excited for my car that’s coming in the next couple of weeks! Thanks for doing exactly what I thought I’d have to find out by myself one day! 🤣 People always seem to forget the anxiety of running out of petrol late at night, that happens more often than people think. SWITCH TO AN EV people!

[@minhtrietle]

Hi Tom. I am seriously considering buying this Mini EV. I live in SoCal. How did you order yours and how long did it take from ordering to your door? Thanks.

[@samcap64]

That was awesome... Couldn't have worked out more perfectly!

[@blackvr4tt]

Good video of max range in ideal conditions. At 75 mph the range will be a lot lower. Then if you're in the winter , using the heat, it will be lower again. So overall for most ppl, the mini would be a great, fun to drive daily driver, or 2nd car. It's range is too limited for the above reasons to take on long road trips.

[@EricBoyd-904]

I think I stopped at that Sheets location when I drove my new 2019 Kona Electric from Baltimore to Jacksonville. It looks familiar. Great video!

[@plugandplayEV]

We've said from day one (when the price was announced last summer) that a MINI could be the perfect blend of affordability and fun driving to help people transition to all-electric. The range does limit it to regional travel, but clearly it can do a leisurely road trip of 400-500 miles comfortably with Electrify America in place. Thanks for putting her through the paces!

[@johnv9854]

I bought an Iconic level SE in April of 22. I have over 13k miles now and have had 2 long trips that I have driven 125 miles and still had 30 miles of "range" to go.. This car can be pushed past the EPA mileage but you need to drive easy without heat or a/c. But winter is when it has its real drawback. Most cold days around 0 degrees F I saw range estimates of 65 miles on a full charge... It is a great small town or city car. I absolutely love mine.

[@MrEddiekessler]

A mini was my first car,,,,,well it was a Riley Elf. A mini with a Riley badge on the slightly extended bonnet/hood but a mini under the badge. Good to see it looking so up to date, no matter who makes it. 100+ miles is plenty for the average commute to work or go for groceries and drop the kids off. Really impressed. Any idea what the UK price and launch will be? Great Show guys. Keep em comin.

[@DonMillerNC]

Kyle, Very worthwhile video. I get the 90kph criteria which could be a benchmark for a urban/city EV driving. But for a road trip EV , 90kph (in the US) is not useful. Last summer we were short on range on I-85 and I slowed down to 55mph (90kph) and I actually felt it was an unsafe speed. Cars we zooming by us and/or were crawling up our bummer, etc. I exited the interstate and took back roads to the supercharger. For repeatability of US roadtrips in a EV the speed limit would be a better benchmark for range tests. I do get that Europe is different and 90kph would be typical for a road trip outside of the Autobahn.

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

I agree 100% - I think we should do a 90kph and then a 70mph range test for each vehicle.

[@Chrisb8s]

I have been looking at this for my wife. She had a Volvo wagon and I don’t really want to sell it. Our 8 year old wagon still has less than 40,000 miles on it. So this car would work. It’s just so hard to let our amazing seats in the Volvo go.

[@sharonbraselton3135]

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[@firstnamesecondname5341]

I’d heard the⚡️ mini’s range is essentially a 5, 4, 3 as in 5 miles per Kw at 30mph, 4 miles per kw at 60mph and 3 miles per kw at 80mph 🤷🏻‍♂️ either way they seem to perform much better than what people expect 👍😁

[@hogster5935]

Kyle, I'm at a cross roads on my first EV. I test drove the Bolt, didn't like the seats, but fun driving it. I can't test a mini, none on the lots near me. I have driven the S of course and fun. My thoughts; I like the Mini SE, Smart ED and 500e's. Love the id4 but those prices I'm near Tesla's so I'd go Tesla for long range driver. I love cars and have/had many. The mini se at $30+ well close to id4 which has more range. I heard the 500e's drive better than a Smart, 500e cheaper used range close to Smart's. Out of these mentioned would do you prefer for a daily drive. Round trip to work is 40mls but.... my area can be blow zero and in the 90's. It will be parked outside so I know the cold kills range. Even at work it will be outside....So a new mini SE with so little range, seems over priced to me. Perhaps wait for them to be used off of leases. If you have time I would appreciate your comments. PS still watching your vids. Thanks

[@tonyc6996]

Kudos for another video stating Tesla has area's to improve in. I'm absolutely disgusted in most of the Tesla owner community that can't be objective and accept other brands do things better. I'm not sure I'd buy another just because of the attitude of most owners. Why can we just enjoy all cars?!

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

The strong Tesla lovers are definitely annoying. You can love the cars like I do and still remain objective.

[@vidpetrovic8907]

Thanks for that TBTP.... Its better than WLTP, right ??

[@mortgagemartin3987]

Excellent video guys.

[@afelso]

Thanks for the great video! Both EPA and WLTP run their tests until the torque drops, so these numbers include the bottom buffers. Tesla has bottom buffers but the German cars don't (or they don't make it available).

[@azera55555]

so nice to see actual charging infrastructure in America

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

We have quite a lot now!

[@SteveBirkett]

You can get across the country in any CCS-equipped EV now. Only certain routes and there are still small gaps, but it's very doable 👍 (No disrespect to CHAdeMO, it's just not reliable/backed up enough on the EA network to be comfortable in the US).

[@bulletbob]

This car is so cool. I hope they get serious about electric sometime soon, and get some decent range on this thing.

[@MylesV]

The point is that it already has decent range. This car is perfect being so affordable, most people don't need more range, they just like the idea of having more range.

[@MsKewi-NYC]

I'm with you on that it needs more range. If you live in the city it's fine but if do hyw miles like these guys did which I do BMW/ Mini needs to get their range up to compete with the Bolt Kona and Niro. Especially on the Mini Countryman SE ALL4 I would love to have that with Bolts 259 mi. range. Just get rid of that hybrid system and give me 259- 300 miles and I'll be in the showroom tomorrow. 😉

[@bulletbob]

I think you need to get to 200 miles. That way, people can drive for two hours comfortably, then recharge. I get that daily commutes aren’t two hours, but I’d like to be able to make a day trip in this thing once/month, and two hours is a nice range before a charge break. Minis are a blast to drive, so I hope BMW gets serious about this electric mini in the next version.

[@gracestallman2379]

@@MylesV I agree. I am quite satisfied with my 130 miles in my Kia Soul EV.

[@MylesV]

ChitFromChinola My car has similar range to the Mini and short road trips are no problem with fast charging, I can easily do a few hundred miles with minimal planning. In my daily use I rarely ever drop below 50-60% even though I only charge it to 90% every night. Like I said, you guys feel like you need more range but I think it’s likely that you’d realize you don’t. Batteries are expensive, in order to be cheap the range might be what people need instead of what think they want. 100 miles or so is perfect for anyone unless they’re taking cross country trips regularly. Trust me, I used to be in the same boat as you guys until I bought a PHEV. Long range EVs were expensive at the time so I figured I’d wait until their prices came down, but I almost never used the engine in my PHEV with 40 miles or range so I ended up replacing it with a BEV with 100 miles of range, I couldn’t be happier.

[@anthonyc8499]

Not that I'd want to do a 500 mile road trip in it, but as a second car runabout, the Mini Cooper SE seems like it would be a hoot to have in the garage.

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

Agreed!

[@sharonbraselton3135]

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[@mortgagemartin3987]

Love the reviews from you guys,

[@ZeroFuell]

Any chance of a review of the 2022 refresh? Slightly improved EPA #s

[@georgepelton5645]

“Let’s hope this thing doesn’t brick on us”. I would expect BMW to include a bottom buffer, aka “anti-bricking buffer” to protect the battery when driven to a complete halt.

[@markchapmon8670]

When I back our BoltEV out of the garage, I turn around before I pull out on the street. I am still barely rolling backwards when I put it in drive and it smoothly makes the transition.

[@EVPuzzle]

When it went into Park could you not engage neutral thereafter and push it further? If not how is the car recoverable? Can you not push it to a charger?

[@BillB33525]

As DC Fast Chargers become more prolific short range EVs will become more popular.

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

Agreed! Many people just never take trips and won’t need a long range EV, but will want to know they could get places for a couple times a year if they had to.

[@BillB33525]

@@OutofSpecMotoring 30K MSRP minus $7500 FTC WOW great second car for commuting and or soccer mom vehicle. We need more choices like this to get EVs going. Many countries now see clean air since driving has stopped. CV-19 could be the disrupter that helps the tipping point to EVs.

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

Bill B and add on certain other states that have a $5k additional tax credit (Colorado) 😋😋

[@zefram47]

Out of Spec Motoring, CO dropped to $4k for 2020.

[@scratchpad7954]

I agree, but for me, an EV like this with a range of only 110 miles would only be good enough as a local runabout car for me, limited to the Wasatch Front area. Once you get below 100 miles, I wouldn't even trust the car to be able to leave Salt Lake County and have a high enough state of charge to be able to get me home without running out of power. Aging Wheels did a range test on a 2013 Wheego Life (named as such because it uses a lithium iron phosphate battery) and it claimed a range of 100 miles, with him getting about 85 or so; that was likely because he drove that Wheego Life as any normal sane person would in the middle of summer (air conditioner on at full blast in sport mode). At such a low range, I would begin to have trust issues even getting me to the nearest grocery store. In these insane times with COVID-19 going around, though, that would not be nearly as much of an issue with stay-at-home orders active in many jurisdictions. However, I come away from this video thoroughly impressed at this Mini Cooper SE's performance with an absolute maximum possible range of 132 miles against an EPA estimated 110 miles.

[@michaeldproject]

Pretty cool, reminds me of the i3. Not an improvement over an i3, but the MINI does look like a nice place to spend time.

[@sharonbraselton3135]

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[@billsmith810]

Liked the video, like the car and I thought I'd end up getting one as my first EV, however, being cheap as I am, I bought a 2016 Spark EV and love it. Would love to see a drag race between the mini se and the spark just for fun.

[@premomaas9557]

Thanks for the range test - well done! Just one thing - I would prefer no background music - it would be easier to listen to...

[@tommckinney1489]

What luck that you ran out at the charger. I assume you had a back up plan. Thanks for the video.

[@pilot1226]

I would go bananas if I had to stop every 120-130 miles for 30-40 minutes to go another 120-130. While you made a point that not everyone needs a Tesla this would be a better choice for me if the range was closer to 200 or even 250 miles. That would avoid the need to charge at some stops entirely. The Mini is truly an exclusive city slicker.

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

Obviously it’s not an exclusive city slicker as we made it to NC and could have gone to Miami however I agree if you road trip often having a larger battery is nice. Also stops should be closer to 25 minutes. It definitely wouldn’t work for me as an only car but that’s because I do 80k+ per year

[@pilot1226]

Kyle you’re absolutely right. I’m happy to see the competitions in the sector and it’s good for people that seldom ever leave the home range area but I couldn’t imagine driving from North Jersey to South Jersey for summer trips to the shore on the weekends and have to charge on the way. Every weekend. Every leg of the trip. That would get old quick! Honestly I’d like to see more of a collaborative effort to get the CCS chargers working with Teslas so you don’t have to buy the crazy expensive and out of stock Chademo ones. Either way thanks for the video, always excited to watch them... Now if the Mini had a ~200 mile range option, that would be enough to make me look at it seriously.

[@sharonbraselton3135]

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[@commanderroddi7742]

What a Nice Little care that Mini!!!!! Great job draining the pack! Good viedoe! And what a good deal this Mini EV really is! Its Nice to see other good EVs coming to the market, and maybe the competition will make the other EVs (Teslas, Bolts, Leafs, etc) even BETTER!!!! Exciting times for EVs!

[@be236]

Wow...that's impressive... my Nissan LEAF 2017 30kWh battery may get 110 miles range if I drive carefully... Amazing.

[@sinskinner]

The new Leafs look amazing.

[@lsh3rd]

Would like to see range at a more reasonable speed.

[@MonkeyPower55]

That's what I was thinking. At least 65 to 70 mph. Nobody really drives 58 mph.

[@lsh3rd]

@@MonkeyPower55 If I drive 58 MPH in Atlanta, someone is going to run me off the road!

[@blueeyedboy7648]

When it can do a solid 200 miles of range at a solid 70mph it'll be the perfect little little car

[@sharonbraselton3135]

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[@EVAddicted]

Curious now about the range at 70mph!

[@MsKewi-NYC]

To the stop sign and back. The car should be at least 200.miles for the American market for the $$$ you spend on this car that includes the add features. They have an optional backseat cupholder where others give you standard.

[@Themayseffect]

@@MsKewi-NYC the backseat should be optional on this car. It's fucking useless other than carrying more kit. Not humans.

[@Milhouse77BS]

103 miles from Tom at InsideEVs in Feb 2022

[@SCWgreg]

Good video... thanks! So what’s the range for use on U.S. roads, like at 60, 65, and 70 mph?

[@MylesV]

They're on US roads driving around 60 mph in the video.

[@TheSanarossOne]

This car is perfect for the European market, I mean its range is more than enough and for long trips, plane or train is always a better option for convenience anyways. But in the USA where everything is so far from each other, I don"t think it would actually satisfy customers there.

[@oisiaa]

I can't imagine how good the headlights are because my Model 3's lights are insanely good...or so I thought.

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

Teslas headlights have always been eh - the Model 3 got better after SOP but not by much. The Germans know how to do headlights

[@tonyc6996]

I'm with you oisiaa. My model 3 lights are some of the brightest I've used. But I did just get an X7 loaner and was blown away. I'm more than happy with the Tesla lights, except the auto high beams, they are more like strobe lights

[@larryspiller15]

@@OutofSpecMotoring by better to you mean obnoxiously bright with light pointed at the tops of trees that you don't need to see?

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

I mean I can actually see at night in dark places vs my Model 3 / S which has sub optimal headlights.

[@larryspiller15]

@@OutofSpecMotoring I love my 3s headlights so far, night and day compared to my 2017 civic. Kind of hard to imagine being that much better.

[@1stMilcom]

Very nice video! Just found your channel today and immediately subbed. Looks like the new Mini SE has been able to retain almost the same range as the i3s. That's no easy engineering achievement considering how different the platforms are. What's the launch price in US for this car? Here in Australia they just launched the high spec model for USD $40K.

[@0ooTheMAXXoo0]

EPA range seems to match what you get driving a steady 65-70mph. I know it must just seem like that

[@j.padilla309]

What configuration do you have? S, M, L, or XL?

[@d00mch1ld]

I hope there will be after market options to bump the range up.

[@sharonbraselton3135]

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[@d00mch1ld]

@@sharonbraselton3135 not a bad idea, but you have to make your own custom battery pack, with those Tesla cells.

[@iAmInsaine22]

I think 100 miles is still not enough even for around town considering the less dense spacing of CCS fast chargers. Also considering the pricing these are likely to sell for at dealerships with every nickel and dime option. Spend a slight margin more and get a SR+ or even a used one.

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

It’s a large gap to a Model 3 as the MINI gets the $7,500 tax credit and the Tesla doesn’t

[@mrglwatson]

Did driving a night with all the lights on affect the range at all?

[@scottsommers2453]

Cool vid man.

[@austina4189]

British flag brake lights.. now that's a cool Easter egg

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

All MINIs (except the Countryman I think) with the full LED lighting system get them now

[@realtgchd]

hello from britain! hope you guys dont mind having them plastered over the back of your minis :)

[@richardmarkfielding]

I'm a Brit. I'm not that patriotic either. But I love the lights because they're cool

[@vonster9977]

Is this awd or fwd?

[@pictsidhe6471]

Which tyres did it have? I get better range at higher speed.

[@NicklasToft]

Headlights on M3 in europe is diffrent from the ones in US right ?

[@tonyc6996]

I wish we got the flashing brake light in the US like Europe got

[@mitchellbarnow1709]

@@tonyc6996 I wish that we could get rear amber turn signals and a red rear foglight, like they have in Europe.

[@sharonbraselton3135]

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[@RRBish]

This thing is incredible for what you get. I would get it if I didn't have 3 bulldogs...

[@vladimiralexandrov5930]

You should get your hands on a newest Model S long range Plus to do a range test. I don't think anyone did it yet. It is rated at 391 miles and is likely super efficient

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

I’d like to, I don’t know anyone with one and Tesla has always been stingy with press cars

[@vladimiralexandrov5930]

@@OutofSpecMotoring KZbinr Eric White Tesla Secrets has a Long range S (373 miles of original range) but not the most recent Plus version. He was able to get 258 Wh/Mi on his way to work and back, about 190 miles. I would imagine Long range Plus will be even more efficient.

[@sharonbraselton3135]

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[@carperdiem8754]

Wow guest star Tom!

[@kens97sto171]

I wonder which car would be the better choice. You can currently pick up a Chevrolet bolt EV for less money than this costs have more interior space and better range and a similar charging curve in the 2020. Or go used and spend less.

[@kens97sto171]

@@ezicarus8216 Yeah.. Mini is an unreliable POS.. far more than Chevy. And Chevy isn't good either. All Euro cars are basically piles of shite. With massive reliability costs and fails.. and have high maintenance costs. Mini is always bottom of the list on our reliability ratings.. along with a BMW and Mecedes.

[@toddstearns8437]

I own this car and love it! But I am just in the process of replacing my first tires (fronts that I only got 11k on!) and no one makes low rolling 16” tires! Like literally, no one!

[@YourMajestyTheKing]

And this range test is on highway with minimal regen braking. so the city range will probably even higher.

[@nycameleon]

The Mini SE beats a Tesla Model 3 at the drag strip if you don't hold the accelerator all the way down in the 3

[@williamlabarre4755]

Re: Power over battery spec 1. Charge conversion and power management and battery frictional losses... 2. Somebody left the lights and HVAC and tunes on..

[@jeffbransky6499]

I wonder if you could get a mile or two additional range with no passenger onboard.

[@becauseiwasinverted7971]

And driving during the day when warmer and not needing the lights.

[@plugandplayEV]

"Get out Grandma, you're dragging down my efficiency."

[@davidpearn5925]

Why are fog lights on with no fog? Light pollution is an issue in general.

[@Robo10q]

I thought my Model 3 headlights were crazy bright? Compared to my 9 year old Honda Civic they are great.

[@MylesV]

Headlights being bright and being good are two different things.

[@sharonbraselton3135]

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[@DG-uv3zw]

Great test! Really appreciate the effort to be accurate, include weather and wind info! Some stats info at the end of video would be nice also. Great job! Just to add my opinion. It has ok range if you have charger at home and do shorter trips! Expect way less range if you drive it on highway! Its actually cheaper to drive on gas with current prices! But, its cheaper to maintain and it has really nice power!(instant torque and no stupid gearbox) Also, expect less depreciation...With incentives, price is the same as ICE version!!! EPA estimate is not based on ideal conditions driving 90kmh!!!( for instance model 3 Sr+ does easily 250mi estimated Epa range at those speeds!!!). Its somewhat of a mix driving. This car is pretty bad(efficiency) at high speeds but its really decent in city driving...

[@josealbreyes]

Im hoping for a cannonball with the leaf or bolt next...

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

That sounds terrible 🤣

[@josealbreyes]

@@OutofSpecMotoring Perhaps. But, I quoted a 2020 Bolt EV with taxes and out the door for 26k. Not to mention a used one already runs for less then 18k and I expect the higher mileage ones to hit 10k soon. The Leaf in contrast. Just has very poor resale value in general.

[@sharonbraselton3135]

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[@dannyabe6452]

Iv'e said it before and I'll say it again. I would never take any other ev but a Tesla on a road trip. Stopping this many times to charge is rediculous.

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

Yes, it's not meant for road trips.

[@quizzley7]

Hmm. 130 mi at 56 mph. At 70 mph it would seem the 110 mi estimate is going to be pretty close. FWIW drove this section of I 95 in my LR RWD Model 3 and went 276 mi using 91% of the battery at 75 mph.

[@DG-uv3zw]

This cars has bad drag coefficient rating so more like 100mi at that speed(if you drive it to 0%!)... Europe city driving is where this car has best efficiency...

[@sharonbraselton3135]

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[@TEVAssociation]

Thank you for kph!

[@gregnote771]

$8.12 for 132 miles. So if gas is $3 per gallon, it is equivalent to approx. 48 miles per gallon?

[@sharonbraselton3135]

Yes

[@adammachin]

Isn’t the Honda E shorter?

[@sharonbraselton3135]

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[@dave2288]

Nice test! Can't wait to own an EV. Thinking of the Spark EV.

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

I still have never driven one but have two friends that do - I should do a review one of these days. I hear they have a ton of torque!

[@zefram47]

Spark EV is fantastic for what it is. I’ve owned a 2015 for just over a year and put about 9000 miles on it in the Denver area. Below 45F, expect around 50 mi of range if using HVAC. With warmer weather 70+ miles is easily achievable. Even crazier, because the gear ratio is low at 3.87:1, it still gets over 5 mi/kWh at 60-70 mph. The torque is amazing and you can get wheel spin at 45 mph...but, GM’s traction control steps in hard when it does detect spin. I still need to instrument it, but I’m pretty sure it’s quicker to 60 than the 7.2s GM claims now that it’s on something better than the hockey pucks they called tires. The interior is pretty spartan...a big reason I have a MINI SE on order. I use the Spark as my daily driver and have other cars for long distance cruising. I’d originally bought it as a test to see if I enjoyed driving EV as it was so inexpensive...I paid around $8k out the door.

[@jamesmaddeaux4304]

You need to watch the Spark review on the channel TRY to HELP you. He does an extremely good job. Its way better than the one done by Alex on Autos or anybody else for that matter!

[@sharonbraselton3135]

Spar ev bj I yy 90 Mike ra b fe teslsa. Dells 104 Ike ran g e

[@cadriver2570]

How is cabin noise versus model 3?

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

Quieter

[@cadriver2570]

@@OutofSpecMotoring thank god. haha.

[@hashiru86]

some losses happen before the cable, in the charger 17:22

[@officialyasir]

This would be a good used 10k car.

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

Yes it will!

[@guod1973]

Yeah for 30 grand I would rather find 5 more and just get the "stripper" model 3

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

You’re forgetting this gets the $7,500 tax credit which the Tesla doesn’t. So it’s closer to $15k difference.

[@mowcowbell]

The crazy part is the cost of DC fast charging. $8.27 for 31kWh? That would cost me $3.41 at home. Really crazy comparing it to gasoline. I can fill up my Honda Clarity PHEV (7 gal tank) for a little over $7.50 with current prices and that would get me 300 miles in range.

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

You have to understand that the car tapers hard up top. 80% was only like $4-5 charging by the minute encourages drivers to leave once their vehicle has tapered. Although I do believe in charging by the kWh

[@jamesmaddeaux4304]

I do long shifts at work and could drive for free most of the time, even on 110 (but only with really efficient ones). Would cost me less than 2 dollars to juice up the Mini at home b/w Nov and May.

[@darrenorange2982]

Best Value for a EV is a Used Chevy Bolt with 15k miles on it for 20K, over twice the range and twice the charging speed and a lot more use able. Resale on a EV with under 200 miles let alone under 150 miles will be nothing after 2 years.

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

Don’t the older bolts only charge at 55kW? Plus it’s not a premium car. I agree the bolt is great and has way more range and space - but I would rather live with the MINI everyday than the bolt, a much nicer place to be.

[@darrenorange2982]

@@OutofSpecMotoring 55kw to 56%. If you want a premium car but most people with a EV just want it to work and work well and cost as little as possible to own. A 4 door car that holds 4 adults comfortably and is more efficient seems like a better option. On that Test you just did the Bolt would have gotten well over 300 miles likely closer to 320-330 miles on 60kw battery.

[@darrenorange2982]

It holds to 38kw into the low 70s and 28kw to 80

[@symlexbrn5396]

There's a waiting list for this Mini here in the UK

[@papacos4745]

I want one of these

[@larryspiller15]

What about the kyle speed range? I don't give a fuck about 90 lol. Canada unfortunately way too big to go 90 anywhere

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

Gets epa range cruising normally

[@larryspiller15]

@@OutofSpecMotoring I don't believe you lol. If going 90 only got you 130 miles then 120 you'd be lucky to get 100, epa is 110. Also i do like the car but its kind of insane how a model 3 dual motor can get 350 miles going 90km/h while being 1000lbs heavier and making double the power but getting equal efficiency to the mini. Goes to show how impressive the tesla is. I wish they'd put a better battery in this, my mom would love it but the closest fast chargers are 200 miles away and winter obviously decimates the range too.

[@flexing1013]

Need more range driving range is too short. My be its ok if you live 5 or 10 mins from work. But most people drive 30 to 60 mins to work I know a guy who drive a hour and a half to and from work. When you get off work. You would have to go straight home to recharge. Better not make any stops. Any ev need at least a 400mi range in the US. No one wants to stop every few miles and have to wait 30min to a hour for gas, so why do think people want to wait to change a whole car up. 450mi should be for all ev vehicles. Everyone can not afford a 50 to 100,000 dollar vehicle. A mini is a neat little car, problem is your can not fit a family or more then two adults in it.

[@sharonbraselton3135]

Wrng char dast Cher modern waty

[@jpmackin]

Testing at 56 mph on the highway? Come on guys… get real. At least 70 if not 80 is the norm on the freeway.

[@shawncell1247]

sad that you took the battery beyond the limitation's . you give ev a bad rap for overheated pack's and longevity

[@sharonbraselton3135]

Wronge

[@shawncell1247]

@@sharonbraselton3135 really why ,I don't understand this

[@ru95]

As a Brit, I’d say we’re not really a ‘flag patriotic’ county, so I do find the Union Flag tail/brake lights a bit cringe and not sure I’d want them on my car in the UK. But curious to see what those from other countries think of them?

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

Not a fan

[@zefram47]

Personally, they look cool and I’ll just ignore the flag aspect. I do wish the US got the amber turn signals you guys get in the UK though.

[@abbaby555]

Good little grocery getter

[@Robo10q]

Amazing how efficient cars are when you don't drive at "Kyle" speeds. We could help reduce global warming by returning to 55MPH speed limits on highways for all ICE vehicles.

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

That’s a stretch and everyone will be miserable. I’ll happily be burning electrons as fast as I can - and then finding sustainable sources to charge from when convenient. Few people buy these cars to save the planet, it’s just a nice by product.

[@Robo10q]

@@OutofSpecMotoring Seems like no one is happy until they are 10MPH over the posted speed limit. I say, let EV's go 10MPH faster than ICE cars--they are trying that in Switzerland.

[@jpmackin]

Why would you guys not do a test driving at 70-80mph? Why drives going 58...seriously.

[@Vxvx22]

Let's be real, 56 mph (90 kph) is definitely NOT representative in real world usage in Europe or any country on this earth. No one drive this slow on highway. Teslabjorn intentionally chose 90 kph just to give EV the chance to meet the EPA and European WLTP exaggerated range rating. He also do 75 mph (120 kph) test on EV, which is much more representative on how people drive. Please do 75 mph on your next test.

[@wayneg296]

👍👍😎✌️

[@bd5av8r1]

Its awfully short on range...

[@mowcowbell]

You drive more than 110 miles a day? 110 miles would get me through my entire week of commuting to work.

[@sharonbraselton3135]

Wrong

[@bd5av8r1]

90km is short range. Correct.

[@oisiaa]

lol...same consumption as a Model 3 Performance....that's terrible for a tiny car like that.

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

It’s actually not bad considering the shape.

[@sharonbraselton3135]

Wrkng

[@Michaellipmanactor]

Until an electric car can do around 600 miles,take the same time to charge as a petrol driven car, and have charging stations that are as plentiful as fuel pumps, then I think I’ll stick to my Mini JCW.

[@sharonbraselton3135]

1000 ekr solar c ar

[@andrewlilley3660]

Imagine buying a car with a three-gallon tank! that you need to fill up daily? and it takes you three hours to fill it up, then at some point in the future, you need to pay for that fuel again in the form of battery replacement, well, that's an electric car, hahaha.

[@bad50]

only 130 miles...lmao

[@bad50]

@John Edwards everyday?? no....frequently, yes. even a 500 mile road trip would be hell. no thanks. i want an ev that can truly replace my ice car. Im buying a model Y while I wait for my cybertruck. 500 mile range is a game changer imo. I can drive to Florida with 3 stops according to a better route planner. mini would take 13 stops....so yeah LMAO

[@davidalton7378]

I hate the mini. Sorry . Winter driving with heater and snow driving at freeway speeds. You will be giving it away shortly after owning it. You are making it sound like its a wonderful car. I agree with Elon. An EV needs 300 mile range at least. I know because I own a Leaf. Great for getting groceries but get on the freeway and forget it.

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

It is a lovely car for around town use and if you have to take a short trip. I don’t own it, it’s a press car

[@davidalton7378]

@@OutofSpecMotoring Enjoy your videos. This one was kind of what the heck your trying to sell low range overpriced EV. Even Tesla put down on head lights. Teslas headlights are fine. I have driven the 3 and x. (my sons cars) I will inherit the x after the new x comes out and he upgrades.

[@CFG39]

I wish they’d go back to how the old R5x MINIs drove. The F54/55/56 never excited me and the styling is not very appealing, especially the oversized grille with its “fish mouth” and the rear taillights. I also hated the new instrument binnacle. The old center speedo was such a hallmark design trait for MINIs and they could still fit a larger infotainment screen inside of the speedo. If MINI offered a larger capacity battery pack based on newer chemistry it may have been something to consider. If MINI lives on to make 4th generation products maybe we will see bigger packs offered. I’m just not sure BMW is planning to invest more money into MINI’s survival.

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

Totally disagree on going back - I’ve owned many R5x MINIs and the F chassis cars are a massive improvement. If they put a big battery and really good tech in this it would have been at least $50k and went only ~200-230 miles probably. Not worth it at that point. I love the price tag on this thing.

[@CraigLongo]

$7500 tax credit? Can you configure the car?

[@kjh789az]

This is a BS range review. Who drives at 58mph? Stick with your opening assessment that this is a great CITY car. You also need to come clean and tell viewers that the battery and motor tech is based on he now ancient BMW i3. BMW have been suffering from some weird EV leadership crisis and so new EVs have not appeared after the ground-breaking i3. Nice lights do not make a great EV. My brother in law has a Mini-e and is constantly thwarted by the limited range as soon as he drives at 70mph on a motorway. Plenty of cheaper city EVs with better range than this. More honesty, please. Thanks.