Electrics, Kitchen, Wrap Plans | 2.8 Troopy Build @4xoverland

[@mattyolo]

It’s so refreshing to see someone online that’s just dead honest and if they make a mistake they apologise and admit their mistake. Well done Andrew 👏

[@Photoshop-Phreak]

Sean is incredibly skilled! Really impressive what you’re building together

[@colinwhite4658]

I think the new shape Troopy would look great with a two tone paint job along the lines of the FJ55 using old school Toyota colours.

[@jamesmazurstudios]

Following this build closely as I am only 1+ year away from building my own, 24 years in the making in prep for a world tour. I love the new Mission rear table and I can't wait to see the rear fit out. After a decade of watching all the builds on KZbin it is almost time to do it myself.

[@Dub105]

That’s the way mate 👍 good luck with your world trip 👍👍

[@BrianChavwanga]

Hi, Andrew. Thanks for uploading another video on the Auto 2.8 Land Cruiser build. Your builds are usually interesting quality and purpose full.

[@spudboy1328]

Not sure you are 100% right on the RedArc selecting the highest amp charge (i.e. using the alternator when driving and nothing coming from the solar panels). My understanding is that it takes the 'greenest' power it can first, which would be the solar, and then fills in with the alternator. So on a 40A model, if you are getting 25A from your solar panels, then the unit will pad out the remaining 15A from the alternator.

[@ajf9034]

He is wrong mate they work like you’ve said. It’s only the old models before the d’s came out that could only charge from one source at a time

[@ddjDailyDrivenJeep]

Thankyou for finding neto graphics! I have been trying to get a certain wrap/decal job done on my Jeep and sourcing the decals has been a big issue,some other companies wanted ridiculous amounts for a relatively simple wrap. I got onto these guys and will be booking my Jeep in with them when I move back to Perth next month!! Pricing was great and they were willing to help me with what I wanted to achieve. Without this video I wouldn't have known they existed so thankyou

[@gregrice-c4u]

Andrew, after 40 years of changing and improving my 4WD systems with the best and latest and as I look now I have done the full circle and I am over complicated set-ups, I’m back where I started 30 years ago , the same products and brand names, DCDC Redarc, TRAILBLAZA fridge ,lithium batteries, quality but simplicity, easy to work on,a modern take on what I had all those years ago..

[@netographics]

We love following the process of this Troopy and we're super excited to see the Wrap reveal :D

[@tangoduck01]

Well done on being honest. Much appreciated. Loving the build, keep it up - I am learning a tonne.

[@PaulCoetserBalie]

Wow, your troopy is coming along nicely. Shaun is a legend. He is really doing an outstanding job. I know where to go to in future.

[@IIIIMickIIII]

Andrew, you were asking about Australian made fridges in an earlier video. Have you looked at the Trailblaza? Made by Norcoast Refrigeration in QLD. I have had mine for 28 years now and still going strong.

[@johnflynn556]

In terms of the rail mounting bolts, I would think you would need high tensile bolts more when mounted on the side than the roof. You will still get multi-directional forces on the sides (the car accelerates/brakes, leans and bounces sideways, etc.) Mounted on the roof, the bolts would basically be just holding the rails in place with the roof supporting most of the weight. Mounted on the side, the bolts hold all the weight.

[@BriscoelabMN]

100%. Load carried in single sheer needs a higher strength bolt in general. Although. The loads on the side he is likely to carry are likely much less overall than a roof rack. So the other bolts will be fine, but his explanation for why is wrong. Also, you can of course buy high grade/strength stainless bolts from a proper fastener supplier.

[@uurergin]

Dear Andrew, I do not have an overland vehicle yet, but I enjoy watching your videos, and thanks to your vast knowledge, I am planning my dream vehicle and my future adventure better day by day. I wanted to share my personal opinion about the electrical system you mentioned in this video; Recently, I see that power generators have improved a lot, and they have even reached a point where they can manage the power need with just the alternator connection. -without the need for solar panels. The alternator charger device produced by Ecoflow (I have no connection with the company), and the generator it is connected to, seem to be able to meet all the electrical needs of an overland vehicle. In other words, I feel like if I could connect the alternator device to the portable generator, I would not need anything else. I do not know if these devices are really as efficient as they are marketed, but I think we are in a time when traditional electrical methods can be questioned. I would love to hear your comments on this subject based on your extensive experience. Best regards.

[@taurota1554]

Awesome as always.Thanks for sharing and taking us along

[@wilso7235]

Nice Andrew! I use the Victron gear myself, any reason why you didn’t use their dc/dc charger it’s fully adjustable as is most of their gear. I also added the cerbo gx display in the cab as you can use Bluetooth when camping either way 👍

[@LockyourHubs4WDing]

I was wondering the same thing myself.

[@landcruisertroopytouringan2166]

I’ve travelled a bit over the years now and I have never needed ‘max tracks’ yet. Don’t own any and have never needed them….. otherwise fantastic update and thorough, informative video. 👍

[@Alan.livingston]

Personally I’ve found a hundred uses for the Treds I carry. You do you I guess.

[@miketroup847]

They do very nice work at Mission 4x4 from what i have seen, i really like Seans hilux

[@GoodkatNW]

Exciting to see a new electrical build with that combiner. Regarding the slideout food tray, it looks awfully weak the way it comes out of the drop-down platform. I'd be surprised if you could put even a small amount of weight on it without warping/bending/snapping

[@gregmgm06]

Great build !

[@philg2468]

The Redarc charger "blends" the solar with the alternator input so say a 40A output might be 10A via solar and 30A via alternator. It does not switch off solar. The benefit of a separate Victron solar controller is that the solar output is additional so you'll get 10A from solar plus full 40A from Redarc DCDC. Other brands of DCDC chargers do switch off solar. I prefer the installations with a separate solar controller and you can use the Redarc solar input for portable panels when camped.

[@trenthorsnell4639]

Gday andrew, just in regards to running 2 battery chargers, redarc advertise their chargers with built in ‘green power priority’ and can simultaneously charge from the alternator & solar with priority to solar. (I run the same 40A charger) Have you found this not the case? As adding an extra charger would add just an extra layer of wiring fun when things go bad..

[@mrwoody2]

love the drop down table with built in cooktop! I have the table but still need to get my gas cooker from a draw in the back of the troopy ..... might need to consider an upgrade.

[@DieselAddiction]

Who needs an Ineos! Will be interested in your fuel numbers. Nice build. 👍👍

[@georgecarousos6735]

Does the Max Trax table allow the rear fuel door to still open?....looks like a tight clearance. I've found that a small microwave is a much better alternative than the Travel Buddy type oven as it allows for many more cooking options, more quickly and for a lot less money. Be careful about commenting on under hood lithium batteries Andrew.......you don't want to get sued, LOL.

[@gregdavis3246]

H, Aindrew you can purchase Hi tensile stainless bolts 8.8 and above grades.

[@HMuny55]

Cheers from the Texas hill country, Andrew

[@ptrwsk]

Hi, Andrew. Could you compare (from your experience) Recaro seats with Scheel-mann which one you preferer and why ?

[@RV-zn5eh]

Andrew, not sure if you are aware but the new Redarc BCDC can simultaneously charge from Solar and DC. Contact Gary the WA Sales manager. You are correct in the old unit don’t work simultaneously, but the new ones do. Keen to see the finished Troopy

[@rjl110919581]

thank you for detail video as great watchinhg

[@paulhumpel3572]

Great build Andrew, it is always inspiring to watch. As you are a travel buddy fan. I have a question. FYI just bought one while I was in Australia and installed in my FJ back in Dubai. How to you manage the ”cooking” smell. It is a great product, we did lamb shanks and veg for our day trip and it was delicious. BUT the smell in the car wasn’t that lekker afterwards as it lingers. What to you do to manage it in the Troopy builds? I do not want to build it into our trailer as I have control issues 😂

[@4xoverland]

The travel buddy is close to the doors at the back and I leave them open when cooking. I haven't encountered a smell problem yet.

[@adamthomas2403]

Curious to know if you’ve considered a side entry kitchen drawer/table/sink similar to those done on the Apollo Troopy Campers 20 odd years ago? To me it would make a lot more sense and add kitchen real estate whilst freeing up room for the back entrance of the Troopy. You can then use the Troopy as a wind block when trying to cook/clean/prepare. These fold down tables are very sub par in comparison. Just a thought.

[@stevegraham3817]

Stainless steel bolts are high tensile 8.8 by the nature of the materials.

[@damodoesall6240]

ASPW looking extra fluffy, must be his winter coat.

[@khalilismyname]

Loving the build. Did you upload the new troopy 2.8 review?

[@MrAidenaiden71]

Fueling up will be interesting looks like the you cannot open the Fuel lids

[@LockyourHubs4WDing]

It strikes me as odd that you would use a Cerbo GX, Victron MPPT and Victron Inverter then use Redarc DCDC chargers, especially now the Victron 12 12 50 has VE Direct to talk to the Cerbo GX. Also wasn't this build going 48v or did I miss something?

[@4xoverland]

that is a very good question. The Hiace 4x4 will be 48V.

[@azizlenox]

So nice and elegant work 😍. Is it cheaper than buying a yacht?

[@durbanvillehardware9389]

Just by the way stainless steel is 10.9 grade HT bolts are 8.8 grade, love your show.

[@alang6238]

You never mix very dissimilar metals, stainless steel (316, A4) bolted to mild steel body work will cause galvanic corrosion- cathode and anode, the body work will simply rot away. Add rain and salt and it speeds up the process. Rust resistant steel bolts (304, A2) should be used. High tensile bolts are not needed for bolting on the strips, they are only used in critical areas like in suspension bushes etc. The sheer factor of a bolt is rarely is of concern for non critical components, it's the clamping force that keeps things in place. Cmon ASPW, get your shit right! 😅

[@adrianjohn4920]

Can you still open the fuel door with the max trax in place?

[@davidpatrick1813]

groovy

[@Itsme-zq3et]

How much solar are you putting on the roof to make the most of the 30amp charge? 400w?

[@4xoverland]

Let's see. Should I make the most of the 30A MPPT charge controller? Or to make the most of the space? Or just fit a panel that will suite my needs? Which is, in truth - 400 a/h and the kind of trips I do, a small one, if any at all. I could not go any bigger than 360W. Not enough space for larger and will be near the limit of the charger.

[@Itsme-zq3et]

@@4xoverland that will be awesome 🙌

[@nnoddy8161]

Sounds like Front Runner's lawyers had some work to do.

[@4xoverland]

Front Runner have not contacted me. I was made aware of the error and made the correction entirely of my own volition.

[@2UZFE]

Just wondering Andrew , won’t the travel buddy heat up the box that it’s in ? Also are you considering weight as you add on/build ? Thank you. Kim.

[@4xoverland]

yes, and yes. But the questions should, be, how much heat and how much weight? Heat is only a thing if I'm storing chocolate in that compartment. And keeping weight within reason is always a challenge. Its all to do with priorities. I could do absolutely nothing to this Cruiser and save all the weight.

[@JoeShen-discovery]

It’s a durable jeep, but it’s a pity that Taiwan won’t import it. I wish you a happy delivery.

[@anbu999]

Please test the 2.8 on CSR

[@tonysmith26]

Andrew you got very grumpy with me last time you referred to the Multiplus as 3000 watt It isn’t, it’s 3000VA = 2400 watts at 25C (Recently retired off grid solar guy here)

[@4xoverland]

you are correct. Its VA, not KW. I forget sometimes when talking to camera.

[@johnleaste828]

The rear door table should have a slide out panel under the right hand half, as the space is currently wasted.

[@robhiggins2181]

Where is the Range Rover? I used to love seeing the life journey and trips you did with her I still have me 1971 2door Range Rover camper as my daily driver work beast school run truck

[@andrelam9898]

If you search in the video history in the past year or so, there was a short series put out by Andrew on why he had to sell the old Range Rover onto another enthusiast who would be able to do it justice. I don’t recall the exact details, but roughly it boils down to the fact that Andrew has been successful, but can’t afford to just hold onto projects. He had to sell the old Range Rover so he could afford to do the South Africa and new 2.8l build in Australia. It was fun to see the old car get prepped and go on an epic journey and survive. I can understand and respect his need to sell off the last project to fund the next project. I’m sure he shed a tear when he had to let the old Range Rover go… he so loved that old truck.

[@paulhardie9450]

Andrew or your fitter what is the legality of having those side attachments (water containers , max trax or table holders ) that could injure pedestrians.

[@QLDPATTERSON]

Also interested

[@4xoverland]

this is a good question. Three times I have been over the pits with different Troopys with these tables permanently attached and they have passed every time.

[@darwinsdrongodrivers]

If the protrusion is 15cm or under and the lines aren't sharp, it's kosher. I had to pull a jerry can off of my Troopy as I got it wrong. I have since rectified it, and I'm all good. I DIY all my stuff, but I get it passed by MVR up here in Darwin

[@simoncarter-by7yh]

You got tell from frout running

[@CrazySchooner]

If you live anywhere where it properly snows and have an actual winter season. Ignore this advice and get yourself proper grade stainless steel hardware. This guy is in a unique position where the only rust issue they deal with is red sand. Not real life (winter conditions aka salt, chlorine, actual cold, etc) found in decently north areas. Keep in mind, Australia is its own area. They deal with their own unique conditions that people in more winter esc. areas have to deal with. KZbin Oregon trail isn't North (north) America.

[@hawk3356]

Audio in left ear is a bit fuzzy Andrew!!

[@boxy4973]

4K just in battery’s 🤯

[@voodoocruiser2543]

Anyone know where I can get me that Travel Buddy door Handle ?? At 7:07

[@4xoverland]

its made in my workshop.

[@voodoocruiser2543]

@@4xoverland I thought it might be. I'm going to do the same. Would be so much easier to grab when I'm wearing my dual purpose welding gloves (fire and hot oven tray handling gloves)

[@4xoverland]

yes. the OE knob is far too small for gloves

[@1Coolbanana]

I dunno, this is all getting a bit ridiculous. Double and triple redundancy, dual start batteries, dual DCDC, induction cooking, sheesh. What ever happened to the KISS. Normal people, cant afford or want any of this stuff and honestly, its all totally unnecessary and mojor additional weight and complication for nothing. Something about the law of diminishing returns??? Just getting ridiculous now.. Only reason Im watching is to see how the 2.8 goes but I think Ronny has a much better handle on all this. I guess youre making a lot of people a lot of money so theres that!

[@4xoverland]

Glad you think that. It means your kind of travel is more like Ronny's than mine. That's all. Who's vehicle will be better of road? Damn near identical. Who's will be more comfortable on a long outback trip. Mine, by a country mile.

[@timbeck9483]

Do 50,000 build Both van and vehicle

[@timbeck9483]

Same same

[@timbeck9483]

Why would someone want a van over 4x4

[@4xoverland]

how about a 4x4 van?

[@Treetopflyer777]

God I wish Toyota sold these in Canada!! Ughhhhhh

[@SuperCaptbob]

But steel is stronger then stainless

[@merv190]

Where does it all end, 3 DC DC chargers, induction , water heaters , oven, 1 tonne of electrical gear!! What happened to simplicity ?

[@darwinsdrongodrivers]

I'm with you on that.

[@4xoverland]

You decide. Simplicity is in the mind of the user. I want to cook electric. I don't have to. I want to. I want a hot shower, on tap. I don't have to. But want to have it.

[@darwinsdrongodrivers]

@4xoverland you've got the coin to spend, so why not, I suppose. I like the way I've built my Troopy. I wish I could afford (justify the cost of...)the stuff the Mission 4x4 puts out

[@merv190]

@@4xoverland I don’t have a problem with what you do. My comment is just that, a comment. Keeping in mind I guess that you are probably just building this for someone else as you’ll sell it soon enough. Again … I don’t have a problem with that.

[@Alan.livingston]

These days I don’t mind living rough, but in another 20 years when I’m in aspw’s life stage you can be damn sure I’ll be adding in some creature comfort. Most people Andrew’s age are dragging tons of caravan behind them. By that standard his vehicle is downright feather weight.

[@GarryStenner-wv3te]

Stainless steel does rust put them in a barkett of water for a month you will see

[@4xoverland]

It depends on what grade of stainless steel. But all corrode far slower than mild or carbon steel.

[@2UZFE]

Bucket ?

[@mitchelltullio6855]

Still a poor choice of bolt. Water sits stagnant on a roof and that will rust through and be a cancer to the body of the car. There are plenty of zinc coated high tensile bolts on the market.

[@4xoverland]

what is better? Zinc coated or anodised?

[@mitchelltullio6855]

@@4xoverland Zinc is more industrial and resistant to penetration to the base steel. With the right thinness it's rated to AS4312 and suitable for C4 corrosive environments (coastal).

[@mini_steve]

"You're very dark" observation with Sean is very reminiscent of some people building a bridge with a slope on it. Don't go punching yourself in the face, Andrew. You may end up buying the farm.

[@4xoverland]

OMG. Did you think I was referring to the colour of his skin?

[@francoerp]

@@4xoverland, and this is the new world, my friend. Anything you say can and will be used against you. Just be happy, champ. You are a role model for many of us.