Jeep Avenger Electric - Way Better Than It Should Be!

[@tonybarton3746]

I like the retro mini mustard yellow 😊👍👍

[@stepheng8779]

Saw one of these on my hols & thought it looked very good 👍 Just seemed well proportioned &a look that won't date.

[@Chris-ot9jf]

My ec4 broke down a three weeks ago and the garage still have it. They’re not 100% sure why it happened and neither are Citroen uk or stellantis. I had the dreaded “electric traction system fault” where the car decides it doesn’t want to be a car anymore, it turned itself off on the motorway, luckily I was able to roll it to the hard shoulder where it put itself in park and that was that. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I have a vitara hybrid as a courtesy car! What a load of rubbish that is but at least it drives I suppose

[@chris-townson]

I had a look around and sit in the car at Fully Charged live. I think it's great. We don't all want an electric SUV bus. It's the perfect size for those who don't have (or want!) 2.4 children. We need more small electric cars so good on Stellantis for sticking their neck out. On pricing, well I'd say the Volvo EX30 and Smart #1 would be stiff competition.

[@gileshalliwell3591]

Always like these reviews, fair and informative… I’m waiting for the car you didn’t mention, the Fiat 600e. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on that?

[@peteglass3496]

Worth a look. At least there's a growing choice of EVs at the smaller end of the market. It just seems they need to be at the lower end of the thirty thousands.

[@dcvariousvids8082]

I can see these becoming part of the small hire car fleet world. The reason for a transmission tunnel, is that the Avenger has a planned petrol engine version later on.

[@NE-Media.inc.]

I'm pretty sure that's the same press car that Matt from carwow reviewed and constantly had problems with. He kept having to stop as there were constant brake warnings showing up on the dashboard and weird humming noises coming from underneath the bonet when the car is switched off....strange. Unless i dreamt it haha! Ive tried looking for the video on carwow's KZbin page but it looks like its been deleted! Regardless, i like the car and excellent review as always!

[@paulmayers3965]

Saw that video as well. It broke down like 4 times during the review.

[@philiptaylor7902]

You didn’t dream it. Maybe they fixed it.

[@danielsimpson8371]

Nope I saw it too... it was taken down within a few hours with only a few thousand views. I guess we are members some some elite carwow club now. 😅

[@art322]

I saw it too! Woohoo! First time I’ve ever been in an elite club 😂

[@philiptaylor7902]

@@danielsimpson8371 He was pretty scathing though, he was even having a go at the little ladybird moulding on the trim!

[@MagicianMan]

It broke down 4 times when Mat @ carwow was testing it (brake failure warning)!! Isn't the starting price around £34-£39k? A little cheaper than the, overpriced, Mokka but not by much. Would you choose this at £39k or a Tesla Model 3 @ £42k??

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

The Mokka is £4k more. That’s a lot!

[@Dreadpirateflappy]

@@ElectricVehicleMan Not considering it's a better car than this plastic filled unreliable POS.

[@andymccabe6712]

​@@Dreadpirateflappyer, I'm detecting just a hint of bias there, dude..... ... In reality there's cock all difference between any of them.......!!!

[@chris-townson]

TBF Matt's loan had one fault code that he chose to ignore 4 times rather than have Jeep take a look. It was a bit sensationalist which is probably why the video has been removed.

[@dennisdenise1]

If in the States, I would indeed consider.

[@MrGMawson2438]

Great review guys

[@stevepercival4663]

Had a Jeep compass once, you had to consider the lower control arrms as a consumerable part as they had to be replaced every 3 years at £250 a pop. So hope they have fixed that.

[@theweekthatis]

Won't have anything in common with that.

[@pedromamede9497]

The issue on my country is that most EVs have a price nearing or surpassing the model 3...so why should I buy any other?!

[@davidpearn5925]

Because the Jeep has driver controls that the latest Tesla (Highland) hasn’t. Don’t buy a Tesla without test driving the update first……you might be shocked at the cost savings they made.

[@drxym]

I don't know where you live but there are some EVs that undercut the Model 3. I have an MG4 which is about 7-8000 euro cheaper and it drives remarkably well. I do think that some of these European manufactured EVs are too expensive though, dangerously close to the cost of a Tesla and from a software perspective ain't so great. I think however this Jeep has a way better cabin as do most other Euro cars. Tesla is removing buttons, dials and stalks and it has the reached the point that it impacts safety and driver convenience.

[@davidpearn5925]

@@drxym taking both control stalks out is heroic level of stupidity that only the internationally ignorant Americans could sign off on……as a cost saving for the shareholders…….and at a higher list price for the customer. Doh !

[@stevehammond9318]

I had a sit in one at fully charged live and my biggest issue was with the seat where I needed it the B pillar made getting in and out awkward (6' 2")

[@MegaCellProductions]

Good video EVM

[@Beyondact]

This car tics a lot of boxes for me personally.

[@80y3r9]

Think Harry had it with aiming at the mini buyers,/fiat 500 owners who might now have a kid.. I kinda want one which is enough!

[@danielstefanovic2604]

might aswell then take something bigger, you can hardly put a stroller in the avenger or it will take up the whole boot.

[@MarkSmith-wc1ek]

Can the volvo ex30 hurry up and land

[@24peahead]

When it lights how long will it burn for.

[@philedwards7174]

Im currently looking at th class of ev and have shortlisted this against volvo ex30. Both look like good options. Volvo has stronger more poweful electric system, giving it approx 50 miles more range and much better perfomance. Whats your choice?

[@hamshackleton]

The last Jeep Iooked at was the Cherokee, and that costa lotta - but I saw one pull a Ford Escort mk1 out of a deep snowdrift where it was stuck, like a kiddie tows a teddybear about!

[@gavjlewis]

Have they solved the traction system fault that is an issue on all the first gen cars?

[@Sherukka]

“All”? Come on! A handful.

[@gavjlewis]

@@Sherukka Sorry by "All" I didn't mean by volume but "All" by model types.

[@markbennett6658]

An actual 4x4 one, presumably dual motor with a bigger battery and more range/power, will no doubt be £45k but with 2 or 3 years depreciation on it would make an enticing proposition for proper Jeep people who have an open mind about EVs?

[@odinnln5694]

So what's its NCAP rating?

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Isn’t one yet.

[@robsmith1a]

I don't know why but I like it, I usually like sports cars. I think as with all EVs I'd let it depreciate before thinking about buying one.

[@robbie1403]

Really like the design, however the lacklustre performance and underwhelming range is not compensated by the price. Also the spec is not overly generous and nor is the material quality compared to other options in this price range like the Volvo EX30 or the Smart #1. Good effort but falls a bit short for me and that’s a shame ‘cos I can’t justify owning one on looks alone.

[@____stu____]

Strange the CarWow video for this exact car where it broke down 4 times has mysteriously disappeared from their channel……..

[@ChazWyvern]

As has been said above he chose to ignore a fault code on the dash but yet drive the car knowing something was wrong with it?

[@willielarsson9651]

Wayyy too expensive. Should be a £25k price point

[@davidquinn5906]

Everything's wayyy too expensive now. I hired a 1.2 petrol Peugeot 208 a couple of weeks ago. I looked ay the list price and it was £25k

[@willielarsson9651]

@@davidquinn5906 car prices really have crept up, presenters will say an EV at £45k is "reasonable" . The world's gone mad

[@MrGMawson2438]

Jack on The Fully Charged Show did this in the back and he is tall 😆

[@MrGMawson2438]

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[@briangriffiths114]

The Fiat 600e will soon be adding to that long list of Stellantis EVs sharing the same drivetrain.

[@adamodavis]

We have an e2008 on lease. If I was buying, I think I prefer this. If leasing, then whichever is the best deal as they’re all pretty similar.

[@kinross24]

Range? Are you sure?? Here’s the advertised quote on Jeep site “ UP TO 248 miles * COMBINED 342 miles urban WLTP electric range​“

[@neilm9400]

What was the yellow car in the video at 5:47, not another Jeep. That lane you were parked in, i hope you were careful, remember safety first 😂

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Just another of same car. About 10 of them there.

[@danielsimpson8371]

That's cause its a paid for stellantis press event hence the glowing biased review.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

@@danielsimpson8371 final warning. I don’t mind discussing stuff but you’re just trolling now. Stop being a dick Danny boy.

[@andymccabe6712]

​@@ElectricVehicleMan Ha!... I reckon he's stuck with it, EVM....!!

[@MimMusMet]

Please ask Jeep to bring base models to this events.

[@macfanguy]

Please… not a single car manufacturer does that. 😮

[@bearcubdaycare]

This looks like it might work on certain farms that have sufficiently smooth roads (some have quite smooth internal roads).

[@drxym]

It looks rugged but mechanically it''s the same platform Stellantis uses in a bunch of its Citroen / Peugeot / Opel cars. It would probably sink into the mud if you tried to off road it.

[@cadude145]

Boy, did I sure learn a lot about Stalantis, Britton, and Europe as a group that I did not know before this review. First, Europe, in particular Poland, have great schools for engineering. I say that because Stalantis is still not able to make an electric vehicle in the USA. So let's give credit where credit is due. Next of course is the ability to build such a nice car. Stalantis is not able to make electric cars or trucks in the US, I assume they just are unable to design such a facility. Again credit to the European schools as it seems they can. I noted the battery was a bit in the small side and no range was mentioned. I assume it has a range my calculations on a napkin pad, as I did not go to school in Europe , would give the car only 150 to 170 miles. Which is shorter than that of even the Chevy Bolt. As you can tell I cannot really design cars either. I would bet though if you could design the car with 75k to 80k battery you could sell the Avenger in the US and not have it sit with the rest of the 344 days of inventory. It appears we can't sell cars in the US well either.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

We talked about range very specifically.

[@Petelmrg]

They clad everything inelastic to protect it then put easy-to-damage expensive alloys on it.

[@stepheng8779]

In elastic? Nah think you're stretching it there.

[@andymccabe6712]

And.... alloy wheels on cars is, er... quite common, nowadays......!!?

[@Petelmrg]

@@andymccabe6712 - but still expensive and pointless.

[@mister_jon_jon]

The dimensions is almost exactly as a Renault Zoe.

[@rhodrigruffyddevans7517]

Car of the year? Seriously? Jeees

[@Sherukka]

It’s like the Golf used the be, not especially great on anything but neither bad at anything.

[@darrendavies1208]

Took one of these out for a spin today, absolutely underwhelmed with the performance. Off the line the power is totally restrained until maybe 35mph. My current lowly Seat Mii electric would leave this for dust in the city. Such a shame as I liked the look, and it’s big enough for what I want.

[@tamarafield5074]

Sport mode

[@darrendavies1208]

@@tamarafield5074 yes I tried all the modes. I have the petrol version on the way now, and that will be slower again, but speed isn't everything. 🙂

[@tamarafield5074]

@@darrendavies1208 I bought petrol

[@bernardhilton3527]

I really like the look of this car, but for me the battery isn’t big enough. Shame.

[@hishamg]

It’s a nice car, the problem isn’t the car, it’s the price. That’s a lot of money for a jacked up Corsa.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

But £4K less than the actual jacked up Corsa, the Mokka.

[@MrGMawson2438]

Hello guys

[@TheGramophoneGirl]

Hmmm. Not sure about it. From the front it looks like a Jeep but from the side it's a Citroen.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

A Jeeptron.

[@TheGramophoneGirl]

@@ElectricVehicleMan A Cheep?

[@tonyshergold6023]

It maybe good, but it's still too damned expensive compared to a Tesla Model 3, with Tesla's huge public charging network in the UK and intregated software

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Look at nearly new prices.

[@tesla-spectre]

For 8000€ less, yes. At that price, the Model 3 is better in every aspect

[@andymacrae1093]

Sharp hairdo Harry Did ya man’s ape it 😂😂😂

[@andymacrae1093]

Man scape ffs

[@richmaniow]

Not another SUV EV.. but.. i really quite like the look of this, my first car was also custard yellow so maybe that's half of it 😁

[@mikadavies660]

You keep saying.... "It's a small car" Yet price wise, it is as expensive as any proper family car!! The BIGGEST ISSUE with the Stellantis BEV range (apart from Fiat) is their residual values. They are not Ground-Up BEV. At no point are they best-in-class and people know it. I would expect it to loose 50% in two years!

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Then it’s a good used buy. Cars hold their value and people complain they’re too expensive. Cars lose their value and people still complain. 🤷‍♂️

[@antoniopalmero4063]

Lose

[@chriss4949]

But Stellantis List Prices are “make believe”. Hence 32k Corsa is 22k new in loads of places

[@mikadavies660]

@ElectricVehicleMan Imagine being the guy I met a few days ago....PCP on a 22 plate top spec Mokka... Nearly £40k. Yet at 18mths old, he was offered just £17,500!! He can't sell it as it is short of the PCP planned value. Wouldn't anybody have the right to complain being sold such a vehicle??? Me... I saw this coming in 2022 with the BS Chip Shortage and over inflated prices and I leased a Citroën E-C4. Now I give a dam... its not mine.

[@mikadavies660]

@chriss4949 Exactly... imagine buying a £39k Jeep at release.... Then in 12 months the dealers are doing them for £30k.... Your 2023 Jeep is suddenly worth £20k on PX.... My thoughts would be leave it 12 to 18mths before even looking at the Jeep. Have you seen the Gen 2 Peugeot E 3008.... They are over £45k!! Dreaming!!!

[@colinrenfrew48]

The Volvo EX30 is a better option.

[@Fearnstein]

Take the Jeep badge off and it’s a great car

[@andrewdyson4255]

Looks surprisingly decent, but I don’t know where it fits in the market. Better cars out there for similar price

[@Burtis89]

In the fragile masculinity section

[@ohyesitsme]

No comment 🙄

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

You did though.

[@andymccabe6712]

I reckon that qualifies as, probably the dumbest and most irritating comment......ever!!?

[@leftcoaster67]

The best Jeep and it's in Europe. LOL.

[@MrGMawson2438]

Kids to school car

[@jaz4280]

Mokka-e, peugoet 208 e , corsa -e and this car are all dated already, wrong platform and will depreciate horribly.

[@willsbrewery3518]

Really not sure about this one. Matt from carwow was stranded as it broke down and after sitting in it at fullycharged Harrogate the build quality of the interior is just disgusting!

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

He chose to ignore a fault code on the dash and then it broke down. 🤷‍♂️ That’s almost certainly why it’ll have been removed.

[@willsbrewery3518]

@@ElectricVehicleMan but why was there a fault code on a brand new car in the first place?

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

@@willsbrewery3518 Do you think that’s extremely rare? Seen it plenty of times on a press launch.

[@willsbrewery3518]

@@ElectricVehicleMan fair enough 👍 I'm sure we will find out more when people start buying them. I was still disappointed with things like the flappy (iPad style) cover in the front. It fell off in my hands and I could hear people saying "omg hes broken it already" which I hadn't but didn't stop me from being very embarrassed at fully charged.

[@eezawyrdo3052]

Another SUV, yay! Bonnet looks too long, why do you need a long bonnet on a car with no engine up front?

[@danielsimpson8371]

... err because the engine IS upfront. Its FWD ... another minus point that the "review" conviently skips over.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Oh Daniel. If you don’t like a channel, why watch it? Post up several times! 🤦‍♂️ The car is available in electric and petrol versions (eventually). That dictates the shape somewhat!

[@danielsimpson8371]

@@ElectricVehicleMan Oh I do like your channel. Especially as a fellow yorkshireman. It's just like I said this and others for this car show the reality of the independent yt reviews. My eyes were opened a few months back by "e for electric" bs truth video. I don't blame yourself. You need to make a buck, but all these "reviews" are more sponsored videos than independant insightful reviews and should be viewed as such. Like I said I like you channel and most other ev channels (with exception of macmaster and electric viking) I just hate stellantis group and find it amusing that the carwow video is the elephant in the room that must not be mentioned. If it wasn't forced down I wouldn't be so triggered lol.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

@@danielsimpson8371 you think we’re paid! 🤦‍♂️ Oh my lord! I had to drive for 17 hours there and back and take a day off just to get to the event. No one gets paid for reviews, it would be against KZbin policies and you reckon every channel is just getting away with it? A car is reviewed as a car! Reliability cannot be part of it unless you expect people to drive them for years before releasing it. I saw the same E for electric video. Let’s just say you’ve heard one side of the story. Saying negative things is fine, how you say it is the big difference here. Bias works both ways. Now no more! If you have an issue with stellantis, have it somewhere else.

[@andymccabe6712]

​@@ElectricVehicleManI think you just wasted some intelligent words on someone who isn't worth it....!!!

[@andrewohare7055]

Wife and crazy girl friend. Really.

[@Vitnir3]

Since it cant tow anything or take any cargo on a roof rack this car falls short.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

It can take a roof rack and has the tow bike carrier option. Not sure many but a Corsa sized car for towing.

[@danielsimpson8371]

With this and all the another "independent" car reviews yt channels are really showing their true colours. Way to go avoiding all the negative points especially given that its an ev. This channel is probably the worst offender by far. Talking of paid shills ... a fun party game to emphasise my point ... drink a shot everytime they name a stellantis group car. 🎉🎉🎉

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Paid. What a laugh. Considering you’ve never driven it how would you know? As for mentioning the other cars, considering they have the same platform it’s an obvious comparison! 🤦‍♂️ We compared the Born with the ID3. Does that make me a paid VW shill too? 😄 Fella, the earth ain’t flat!