The Cost To Fix Everything On The £11.5k / 186k Mile Tesla Model S

[@Daniel-jm5hd]

Why hasn't this channel got more than 100k subscribers? Sensible advice and more interesting car reviews than most of the others. Thanks for the content this year and best wishes for Christmas and 2025.

[@bitman666]

Your Leaf is still going fine BTW

[@markmcadie354]

Took delivery of a 2016 Model S 75D only yesterday, with 180,000kms. Range is 350km or so. I am pretty happy with that.

[@animationcreations42]

Honestly, that suspension work could have easily been done at home on the drive on jack stands, it's pretty basic stuff. So the fact that a normal garage refused to do it is strange! The only part of the repair that was EV specific was the charge port, the rest is standard ICE car stuff!

[@wotireckon]

You're right; there's a message here - an awful amount of that stuff could have been done on the drive. DIY definitely rules!

[@djtaylorutube]

Apparently, we're told that you can't work on EV's yourself and local garages will go bust. They certainly will of they can't be bothered to do non electrical stuff. Oh wait, it's because they have to be worked on outside, 15m from anything flammable and needs everyone suited up in rubber overalls. Man down the pub who has a mate whose cousin has one said something about it! 😂

[@trevorberridge6079]

Exactly. Garages refuse to work on EVs as if they aren't 80% mechanically identical to other cars. Suspension, shock absorbers, hinges, seals, axles, locks, 12-volt circuitry, etc., etc. Only the motor, battery and anything connected to high voltage requires special knowledge beyond ICE car maintenance. And any competent mechanic could learn that in a few days.The IMI Level 4 EV Qualification for Diagnosis, Testing and Repair of EVs is a three day course.

[@andysmith9913]

They are fleecing you. They charged an hour's Labour for every job but a lot of them don't take that long. They charged an hour for the rest drive that probably took 15 minutes.

[@MCSMIK]

They most likely didn’t and Andy just hasn’t noticed that they multiple by a 0.x on every one of those items

[@sargfowler9603]

Andy said he couldn't find anyone else to do the work, so he was stuck with the localish Tesla dealer.

[@g.d2450]

​@@sargfowler9603 he's talking nonsense, nearly any garage could have carried out that work and been a heck of a lot cheaper... but suppose that doesn't get the click bait views in

[@mondotv4216]

@@g.d2450Not nonsense. Many garages won't work on EVs, even if it's just normal car stuff. Their insurance doesn't cover EVs and they don't have the high voltage training.

[@jcfallows]

Have a great Christmas and thank you for all the information and entertainment you have provided me for the past nine years! Looking forward to watching more in the new year as the best!

[@stamfordly6463]

Those labour costs are Jaguar/Land Rover sort of numbers and very cheeky indeed. Highlights the need for independent garages to get themselves trained up and familiar with EVs though. It shows that most of what needs doing on these cars is meat-and-potatoes spanner work that an good mechanic can do and doesn't involve the angry pixies at all.

[@mbak7801]

Five days to clean a car. WOW, just WOW. Five minutes is too long for me. Once a quarter mine gets taken to a wash where it is jetted all over. Job done. I cannot think of a more 'cruel and unusual' punishment than cleaning a car when you know a 5 minute drive later it will look exactly as dirty as it did before it was washed. Madness. That aside I always use Michelin tyres as well. Maintenance with quality parts is important. Not looking grubby matters not a jot.

[@StephenButlerOne]

Totally agree, I'm a car lover, but I hate cleaning my cars. I'll just take mine to my local polish car wash. Though these are a really good one, though cheap at £9 for a wash. They use good practices and they are a family, no employees so they do it with pride.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Sorry guys, Christmas and Tesla made the usual Sunday upload impossible I'm afraid!

[@rbdogwood]

Have a good one.

[@djgoode]

I’m thinking (I would 😂😂😂) a swap for my 2015 P85D 165175 miles as of today. Has SC01 so might actually work out good for you plus will be £20 road tax, you can even keep the wheels you have. Plus at 200k you can have to do the review.

[@rob_lightbody]

The silver wheels look miles better than the black ones.

[@Daniel-jm5hd]

Agreed.

[@animationcreations42]

@@rob_lightbody I don't normally like black wheels, but those silver ones are rancid

[@Sam-tx1tn]

They look better black on a black car

[@MetalVII]

A full refurb should be around £300. I paid £360 for my alloys to be made like new and had a colour change too. But that was nice of your viewer. As for the repairs, use EVCleevly. They come to you and are cheaper and better than Tesla. I’ve just had a rattle (quite loud and got worse over time) repaired by EVC. They replaced both my air struts (Einbach) for £2k, Tesla wanted £5k for the same job.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

As said in the video, this couldn’t be done on my drive.

[@joeynessily]

You should use it to challenge those other YT channels like Whatcar or Auto Alex who continue to do clueless EV range tests stacking the deck in ICE favour by charging at the worst locations. Aim to make your journey as realistic, cheap and stress free as well.

[@JustfishNascar]

Cheaper than I thought it would be.

[@mickandsejstock9207]

Incidentally - I once bought an Aston DB7 because it was within reach. I dropped it a AM for the free new owner check over - no work, just the check. Hazard a guess??? £9k for what would be about £600 on a Ford Focus. Fixed it properly with OEM grade aftermarket parts for about 1k. Sold it due to a FUBAR aftermarket immobiliser issue. Wish I’d never laid eyes on it. Upshot is your OEM Tesla grand total seems perfectly fair for such a good tool!! 😂

[@tigerv88]

Keep it, there is still more of the story this car can tell. I think when you consider its mileage a 4K bill to get it back to best is pretty good and wonder how much it would cost for a non EV to maintain it to 190k miles?? Tesla service seemed a bit poor though

[@nxsynjs]

Keep it, I’m more interested in keeping EV’s for the long run, than the ‘everybody’s at it’ new car of the week.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

My priority is content though with this. If it ain’t generating any, it’s useless. Keeping it would be 1-2 videos a year at best.

[@pppscooby]

Its not the car, its what you do with it that will generate content.

[@rogerfinch7651]

Drag race 😂

[@CheeseLovingGuy]

​@@ElectricVehicleManGood point but could you sell it and arrange with the new owner to follow up on it. In exchange they get a top guy for advice should they need it. If they are prepared to talk about on it either on or off camera even better. That could be a way of extending the interest in your channel out. For example - hey guys remember this one it's finally changing hands again let's chat to the seller and keep our fingers crossed that the new buyer will come on board also. So madam you have bought a 10 year old Tesla blah blah

[@andrewgage6942]

I like these cars, although electric vehicles are out of my price range and I lack the ability to charge at home, but your reviews are always sensible, you point out the pros and cons of all vehicles, good and fair reviews. I've followed these videos, this has been a good review I've enjoyed watching and following the progress of this vehicle If I had access to home charging, and obviously the money to buy one, I would consider one of these. I am no good with technology, it's not just electric vehicles, but all modern vehicles are going to screens which I have zero knowledge of, as another KZbinr said, I'm a cabbage because I don't understand technology that I've never been taught, that though does put me off modern vehicles. I personally would keep the vehicle as it's so practical, it's got loads of load space, plenty of space for passengers as to be fair, mileage on modern day vehicles whether electric or combustion engined doesn't matter much unless you're selling a vehicle, another KZbinr bought a Tesla with close to half a million on the clock, it's how well the vehicles are looked after, how well they're maintained as to how long they last, I drive a 799cc, 3 cylinder diesel, it's 13 years old, covered 160,000 miles and still keeps on running, but it's serviced twice a year, regularly maintained, if it needs doing, I get it done if I can't do it myself, when I bought it back in 2011, everyone said, you'll be lucky to see 80,000 miles out of that, it won't last 10 years, I've got another 10 years to retirement (hopefully, if the government doesn't change it), I hope the car will keep going until I retire in 2034

[@jvoric]

Some of my colleagues at work still think EV batteries are done after 3 years! 🙄

[@JJomoro]

Lots of misinformation out here. With channels like this we hope that changes.

[@brendanc5519]

Na most people think it's 10 years, meanwhile I'm still driving my 2003 358,000 mile Citroen C5. EVs are shite they only last 10 years so if you're a low mileage driver cooked your not going to spend thousands on a new battery the things will be scrapped, meanwhile diesel, petrol and hybrids (cheaper smaller batteries)keep going year after year.

[@bluebearproductions8954]

For an ex company 'thrasher' with nearly 200k miles on it, £3k to fix iback to a very good standard is very good. about 8 years ago, had a V8 Biturbo ML Mercedes, which between 100k and 110k miles, required over £10k's worth of maintenance doing. That 75D good for another 100k+ miles at least.

[@beerfantv]

That’s a good car. It’s been checked & signed off by Tesla itself. Peace of mind motoring, worth the spend.

[@mickandsejstock9207]

Thank you for such a great EV channel. Amongst a small group of others you’ve converted me to EV, proudly driving an MG5SE on Ohme/Octopus, I’ve taken the plunge and ordered a 2021 Mii EV for her indoors. Happy Christmas EVM and yours, from us down south. Keep it up - I’ll be chipping in a few ££ as soon as I can find the linky! BTW I still have an ICE RV, bike and classic MG - but EV is the way for the daily drivers.

[@graememuir9704]

I have an S75 and what's amazing about it is it's storage capacity, you need to take it on a trip and show how much you can put it and how little it affects range.

[@roverchap]

Worth spending the money you did. This is the right way with older cars, they can cover high mileage and last many years if kept in good order. Even when the costs exceed the market value there is still value in the service the car will give you.

[@paulscott1759]

so long as it is reliable and you feel happy with the car keep it definitely, looks ok to me i used to run company cars with big mileages and the dealers slowly replaced suspension and water pump,alternator etc the lease company where not happy at the spend but they wouldnt recall it early ,hi to Hertz and Lex leasing

[@JonathanPalfrey]

It would be interesting to know how much the previous owner spent on repairs. If that’s the only paid repairs in 185,000 miles I’d say it’s a bargain and well worth it.

[@davidstewart1153]

The total is shocking but it's because it was neglected and all done at once.

[@parksmush]

Fantastic way to buy a car - getting it to 200k and doing a decent battery health check sounds like a good idea, it would be interesting to know how the tyres are wearing after the suspension and alignment work from the dealership. 👍

[@grahambate1567]

What's the corrosion level like beneath the car? Brakes, linkages etc

[@CheeseLovingGuy]

Really useful watch. Thanks.

[@benrhydding]

Let's see a long distance road trip fully loaded (like a family would for a summer trip to Devon etc)

[@tafkabandit72]

The steering wheel alignment issue - I had the same on my model Y. They told me they just use the "service" display to decide whether the steering wheel is central. They said it can look off because of the position of the stalks, the curved "dash" etc. It still annoys me when I drive it. I even tried to realign it myself but they over-tightened the lock nuts on the track rod ends so I couldn't undo them. I know they did this because the factory alignment markers were out on the nuts.

[@lynseylancaster7244]

Interesting vid as usual

[@stephandolby]

You mentioned that new tyres would raise the value of the car. I popped my car into a trade-in form on Cinch as a test (so basically WBAC), and got less than I expect; I wonder how likely it'd be that they'd raise their valuation if they realised the car had relatively new Michelins and not, say, Landsails or possibly (as seen in this video) Delintes? Probably not likely at all. Also, an AutoExpress article popped up on my phone earlier called "Unsure about electric cars? Don’t let others make up your mind" which I feel is definitely targeted more at the negative attitudes towards EVs. Just... avoid the comments on there, I've no idea what's happening.

[@davidstrong7854]

Looks good , let us know how the range works

[@leighparsons]

Vehicle Bodycare Centre, Cross Green, Leeds. They're Tesla's recommended body shop and gave me excellent service fixing some serious issues on my Model 3 recently (my fault entirely - not the car's). Might not necessarily be cheaper but at least an alternative who know what they're doing with properly trained staff..

[@FlyingFun.]

£165 for every entry on the system lol. I bet all those £165s were just made up and the genuine time spent on car was a lot lower. This is the reason I don't use main dealers, I had exactly the same issue with the steering wheel after a dealer a serviced my car once and did the alignment thing.

[@davidjohnbarnard]

Read @MCSMIK above

[@imprezaaudi]

If you've got a bit of mechanical knowledge, you can save a few quid on basic servicing. I've just done complete brake job on our model 3 with 100k miles on it. Cabin filters, wipers brake fluid swap. Save plenty.

[@johnodell5310]

That figure seems reasonable for a car with such a high mileage. Remember how much youve saved on fuel (at least £3000 a year £60 a week). Such a high mileage on a fuel car would have meant new engine or major replacement parts and possibly a new gearbox etc etc)

[@andrisduums5175]

That was a proper robbery at Tesla. 165 pounds for every 5 and 10 minute job. Looks like they are well aware that there are no garages to take it to in the area.

[@MrWobling]

Please at least do a "Living with a high mileage Model S" video.

[@djewson]

I used Tesla Leeds many times with my model 3. £165 is the normal hourly charge, to which they than attribute hours or part hours assigned to that task. So each line of the bill should have a length of that 1 hour i.e 0.5 of one hour at £165 per hour (£82.50) Or 3.5 at £165 and so on. Weird to read initially Which is why you see so many £165 lines That's just the hourly rate times by the time taken

[@sassasins031]

£165 for exactly what is the question. Is Elon Musk working on it?

[@djewson]

@sassasins031 I know, it's definitely not cheap. But their billing is very accurate, if it takes 10 mins they only charge for 10 mins by the % of that £165. I had a lot of work done on my model 3, majority under warranty and some was crazy money whem you checked the bill and what it would have been. Some was not bad once you'd split that 165 down. At least they don't say charge for 1 hour if it only takes 5 mins. I'm not sticking up for them as yes they aren't cheap, but they're very fair on their time taken. Personally I don't own one any more either, but the constant 165 mentioned in the video is misleading. I thought the same until I learned how to read the bill properly.

[@MCSMIK]

Not too bad all things considered really! But one thing… Have a look and tell us. Are the majority of those £165 appear as… £165 x 0.5 i.e. half an hours work instead of a full hour. As that’s what I saw on my receipts from the past from Tesla

[@radfoo]

Never been convinced by high mileage cars, ice or ev. I think you have proved my theory of being wary. It sounded like you have already decided to sell and think you are right, risky keeping longer as still possibly other issues down the line.

[@Brimstoneandfire]

Over 3 years ago I bought my now 22yr old Toyoya RAV4 for just below £3800. Its needed a new battery, servicing, brakes, tyres and wiper blades. Something finally went wrong: today I replaced a brake light bulb 😂. Oh, and it doesn't rattle 😂😂😂

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

And the bills from the previous 22 years came to?

[@pppscooby]

Interested in hearing more about the e primacy tyre and why you chose it, have been looking at at the low rolling distance tyres but watching a tyre review channel they seem to be comprised in the wet, especially the e primacy.

[@trevorberridge6079]

To answer your question: A Tesla Model S 75D in something akin to nearly new condition with at least 88% battery SOH for £15,000 outlay is an absolute bargain. It had an RRP of £75,000 when launched. 20% the original price with circa 90% of the range and most of it's performance remaining. No brainer of the century.

[@mikecrawford9537]

I'd also be interested to see if you were able to find a buyer for anything like that money considering the mileage and the distrust of battery reliability after the battery warranty is out

[@Exciteddelirium1]

Absolutely disgusting the labour costs.... Total labour charge should be just that

[@djwarren5081]

If it was mine I'd sell it before the mileage gets galactic and buy another project. Wishing you and family a wonderful Christmas.

[@roygardiner4002]

Are you on MCU2 ? If not get it upgraded (£1.4k) + £400 for a reliable radio unit. We"ve spent less on our '14 S85 using independents, including £2.5k on all new suspension arms a rear lamp unit and new wiper mech. Range now 220 miles at 100% and best handling quickest car i've ever had.

[@otleybull]

OBD reader/car scanner. I tested my Niro EV last week, 25,000 miles still 100%

[@Bin-The-L-Plates]

Interesting video as usual, and I’d love to post up my opinion……. But it’ll cost ya £165…….😂

[@LysanderLH]

The reflector on my charge door was hit by a large hailstone and cracked, so as it is a separate part to the door itself and just cosmetic, I contacted Tesla…. so it is still cracked because I refuse to have Tesla fit an entire charger, as they told me they would need to do, because they dont supply just the reflector and that is stupid.

[@anthonylloyd4425]

I recently had the door release button fixed by Tesla (under warranty) they replaced the entire door card.

[@LysanderLH]

@ What’s the point of creating eco credentials to boast about, if they chuck more away than they need to?

[@tonykelpie]

Not a great advert for Tesla service

[@LysanderLH]

@ I have just requested a service appointment to diagnose a DC charging warning. Tesla are sending a mobile tech to my house on Monday morning to fix it and a few recall items eg. boot strut O ring at the same time. It’s probably a matter of time vs cost and time is more expensive than some components, so it’s quicker to chuck some things away, than to repair them. That’s how things are designed these days.

[@alexmclachlan3260]

Do a review of it like you would do with a new one. It would be interesting to see if it still stacks up.

[@robertkane7550]

So Tesla’s standard service charge is £165 just to take a look at it? Skill shortages for ev services. What about the north coast 500 tour in it.

[@Sam-tx1tn]

I’ve had a great experience under warranty but they charge £165 for everything. I have an extended hartwell warranty for 3 years which has worked well so far. The parts are actually very cheap, it’s the ridiculous labour prices that kills. You should be charged £165 an hour for actual time spent not just a straight 165 for every job.

[@Beyondact]

How are charge times on the battery? Identical to when it was new? Faster? Slower? I never seem to get any reviews on that, only how well the battery performs compared to new for milage.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

It’s hit its max when I supercharged it last.

[@andrewburgin-wild7052]

Hypermile modify it, solid wheel covers etc and push for efficiency

[@tobybushnell]

This is my EVM appreciation comment

[@connclissmann6514]

Great video. Keep the S for a long while longer. You put the elbow grease in, threw a good few bob at it and now enjoy! Don't deprive yourselves of a bit of fun. I know you're thinking I need a new content car but this could serve for a while yet. Trusting you will have the wit to park the camera and have a great family Christmas break, so cheers for 2024 and looking forward to your updates over 2025 and beyond.

[@williamfence566]

Wow Tesla know there's little competition so it's think of a number time. Ref Tyres , interesting you always have Michelin, I've replaced my last three sets ( not on a tesla ) with Nexen. Not rip off top brand but better than budget.

[@aidanapword]

What's the software like? Still getting updates?

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Yup

[@antoniopalmero4063]

Cheers Andy 🇬🇧

[@tocor71]

thanks.....from Portugal.

[@cretumarius9616]

If you could it will be nice to see for how long it will last la battery and the transmission

[@axelc8611]

Still seems like a fantastic price to me would keep it till it breaks for that

[@stevenbarrett7648]

Seems a decent price for the car although I would have had all the non-EV work done by a standard VAT registered garage.

[@sandylund833]

I like some of your videos and your leaf episodes were very useful when I owned one. I like the videos that are well researched. This video is not. Some queries: 1) Tesla provide an estimate before the work begins. What was that estimate? 2) point 1. How did the final estimate compare. 3) point 1. With that initial estimate did you consult a HEVRA garage for a quote? 4) point 2. If you did, what was the HEVRA garage quote, 5) point 2. If you did not, why? Can you confirm the nearest HEVRA garage. 6) Tyres. We're these given to you based on your recent partnership? 7) Point 5. If so, this youtube video should be classed as an advert. 8) point 5. What would the tyres cost if not provided for free? Personal point. Your videos were better researched when you first started. Now the video's lack full disclosure and proper research.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

1, Considering they didn’t know what they’ll find, there was no accurate estimate. I asked them to explore what needs doing. 2, N/A 3, HEVRA is pointless. The nearest 7 garages to me only service EVs, they don’t repair. I’ve done a video about this very thing I’m guessing you’ve missed. Garages sign up and don’t have to do anything! 4, N/A 5, N/A As for the rest, I literally said in the video what the cost of the tyres were. Research works both ways.

[@mikecrawford9537]

Id be interested in finding out the battery health by percentage also. I wonder if there are any independents who do that in the whole country

[@derek1012011]

Great value for a good tesla

[@ssj8423]

What are you doing with the spare wheels? I’d be interested if they’re going, have a Tesla model S with 21’s on and could do with a set of 19’s to help with efficiency

[@FullFact548]

I would say for a car with 190k miles on it that looked as if it had been used, but neglected, £4k including tyres is acceptable. £165 an hour is high even for main dealers, but how much has been saved over the last 6 years of ownership. Without knowing how much has been spent on servicing and repairs over the life of the vehicle, it's impossible to know the fuĺl costs, but I would say that £15k was still good value with years of trouble free motoring ahead.

[@Bin-The-L-Plates]

Assuming it was a company car mile muncher, the state of the those tyres were shocking. Worrying that the driver didn’t get them changed, or more likely didn’t do his vehicle checks for the last 6 months, or maybe the company wouldn’t stump up the repair bill.

[@QALibrary]

18:16 Model S Suspension kits and upgrades are ready available - did you not think of doing it yourself? - is not a hard thing to do and the parts are better quality than Telsa while being cheaper - it is a very well-known issue with this car.

[@keithbrown339]

I look forward to updates. So keep the car for a bit.

[@ahbs]

Well I thought it could cost you around 8k to get it done properly, so 4k seems very reasonable to me, given the cars mileage. Bear in mind it’s probably good for another 100k miles 👍

[@andyt1048]

Wasn’t the duel motor more efficient due to the way it uses the power in the different motors.

[@barrydoherty636]

Are them tyres not summer tyres?

[@PaulCunningham-sf5pu]

Can you please do a road trip to Cornwall and back before you sell it

[@Fearnstein]

Sounds reasonable to me

[@alibro7512]

They are called "Stealers" for a reason. I know Tesla repair centre is not technically a dealer but the prices are the same and it would seem the quality of the work!!! Out of interest I paid a similar price from a dealer for a 2021 MG5 62kWh battery and top spec but with only 11k miles. Would I rather have the Tesla for the same money? Mmmmmmmm, heart says yes but head says no.

[@mikegriffith4435]

Great video

[@mcpjohnson]

Car valeting, wait for it... £165 😂 As they say in Yorkshire, "Someone's lifting your leg".

[@topcat4265]

Are you reading it correct. They state the hour rate at £164 for it x 1.0 or 0.4 so not the full hour

[@alanrobinson2229]

A shout out....not ,to Leeds Tesla. I had work done on my front nearside suspension/control arm area. When I got car MOT,d,it failed and was considered dangerous to drive,because of twisted break hose. How did the hose get twisted? No comment from Tesla,putting my safety at risk

[@kalex381]

I think you should keep the car until batteries are finished…I am interesting to see how long that will be amd whether replacing the batteries will cost more than 15k.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Tesla refurbs are about £9k for this I believe.

[@leighparsons]

..oh, and Altelium will provided a full detailed battery report for £30.

[@Sam-tx1tn]

A video on its 0-60, efficiency, real world range. How does it compare comfort wise to the model 3. Maybe a side by side with the model 3 - pros and cons from your use experience.

[@alexmeikle1980]

do a week in the life of a tesla

[@UKDagnar]

£165 for nearly every item seems a bit odd almost like they haven't priced accurately at all so just assigned a default amount.

[@stephenwabaxter]

Seasons greetings.

[@tudorwynphillips6458]

I would keep it for 12 months, and then sell it with the decent tyres on it.

[@simonpaine2347]

Someone was driving it like they'd sold it.

[@paulstewart1626]

A whole lot less than I paid for my 24 Ioniq 6. A great purchase for the price. In my opinion I would keep it for for another 100K. If you want another content car, buy it but keep the Tesla model S.

[@martynb9]

You Lucked IN with the wheels and tyres surely NOT lucked OUT. 😂 As you’re In luck

[@bordersw1239]

£165 must be Elon’s magic lucky number.

[@JohnAdams-kc8wx]

£15.5k for a fully sorted car is a good deal I reckon…

[@rogerfinch7651]

‘Dave takes it on’ channel did a remote battery test for £30. Try that?

[@johngiltinan2646]

Get rid and get a range rover sport autobiography v6 😊

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Fuel alone would cost me more.

[@nathanward5246]

Personally I would keep it till 200k then find something else to change to maybe something from byd if you can find one cheap enough and compare to a European brand