The Cost To Fix Everything On The £11.5k / 186k Mile Tesla Model S

[@blower1]

Scratch arse -£165 Left cheek - £165 Right cheek - £165 Write this bill - £165

[@davesy6969]

You forgot paper and ink costs.

[@budbud2509]

@@davesy6969 £165 .......

[@andysmith9913]

They are fleecing you. They charged an hour's Labour for every job but a lot of them don't take that long. They charged an hour for the rest drive that probably took 15 minutes.

[@MCSMIK]

They most likely didn’t and Andy just hasn’t noticed that they multiple by a 0.x on every one of those items

[@sargfowler9603]

Andy said he couldn't find anyone else to do the work, so he was stuck with the localish Tesla dealer.

[@g.d2450]

​@@sargfowler9603 he's talking nonsense, nearly any garage could have carried out that work and been a heck of a lot cheaper... but suppose that doesn't get the click bait views in

[@mondotv4216]

@@g.d2450Not nonsense. Many garages won't work on EVs, even if it's just normal car stuff. Their insurance doesn't cover EVs and they don't have the high voltage training.

[@usefulrandom1855]

@@MCSMIK Yes, I had a rear light door whilst I was supercharging ( I asked the tech and he did it there and then) It cost £12 in labour I think with a 0.15x on the hourly rate or something like that.

[@Bin-The-L-Plates]

Interesting video as usual, and I’d love to post up my opinion……. But it’ll cost ya £165…….😂

[@Crazydiamond_1974]

+VAT

[@JS-bf9dw]

Ex.VAT, right? xDDD

[@animationcreations42]

Honestly, that suspension work could have easily been done at home on the drive on jack stands, it's pretty basic stuff. So the fact that a normal garage refused to do it is strange! The only part of the repair that was EV specific was the charge port, the rest is standard ICE car stuff!

[@wotireckon]

You're right; there's a message here - an awful amount of that stuff could have been done on the drive. DIY definitely rules!

[@djtaylorutube]

Apparently, we're told that you can't work on EV's yourself and local garages will go bust. They certainly will if they can't be bothered to do non electrical stuff. Oh wait, it's because they have to be worked on outside, 15m from anything flammable and needs everyone suited up in rubber overalls. Man down the pub who has a mate whose cousin has one said something about it! 😂

[@trevorberridge6079]

Exactly. Garages refuse to work on EVs as if they aren't 80% mechanically identical to other cars. Suspension, shock absorbers, hinges, seals, axles, locks, 12-volt circuitry, etc., etc. Only the motor, battery and anything connected to high voltage requires special knowledge beyond ICE car maintenance. And any competent mechanic could learn that in a few days.The IMI Level 4 EV Qualification for Diagnosis, Testing and Repair of EVs is a three day course.

[@mondotv4216]

@@trevorberridge6079You're not wrong but I do believe it's the insurance that is an issue, unless they do the 10 day HV course. I also think there's a certain amount of FUD involved when it comes to EVs and normal mechanics.

[@psibug565]

@@djtaylorutubeThe cars don’t automatically explode just because you replace a brake pad. I’d still avoid charging in an inclosed area and definitely don’t put damaged ones in shipping containers.

[@bitman666]

Your Leaf is still going fine BTW

[@janisvaskevics93]

Can't compare worlds most boring and ugly electric car to Tesla.

[@bluebearproductions8954]

For an ex company 'thrasher' with nearly 200k miles on it, £3k to fix iback to a very good standard is very good. about 8 years ago, had a V8 Biturbo ML Mercedes, which between 100k and 110k miles, required over £10k's worth of maintenance doing. That 75D good for another 100k+ miles at least.

[@davidlewis4399]

I doubt the batteries and motors will do another 100K once they fail its landfill I guess.

[@ouethojlkjn]

@@davidlewis4399 No and no. There are Model S running around with over half a million miles on their original motors and battery packs. My mate's 1.6 ecoboost Mondeo gave up the ghost after just 136k miles. Engine beyond economic repair - £3,500 plus vat and ooking like more, he gave up on them. Got himself an MG5 instead.

[@bluebearproductions8954]

@@davidlewis4399 easily, motors good for 1m miles+. Nothing from the drive train of an EV or indeed an ICE, ends up in landfill, not allowed by law. All components are recyclable, so when any ICE or EV reaches end of life, nearly all components get recycled, which ins;cudes batteries and motors.

[@Smith_Tech_70]

@@davidlewis4399 Batteries have already been proven to go for 300k+ miles. Still got life in them for other purposes after that. Then they can be recycled. Nobody throws a Lithium EV battery into landfill. They are worth too much in recyclable elements.

[@jcfallows]

Have a great Christmas and thank you for all the information and entertainment you have provided me for the past nine years! Looking forward to watching more in the new year as the best!

[@WestermanT.]

The inner wear on the tyre happens when the air suspension in on the lowest setting and the alignment hasn’t been done properly. It’s common on the model s & x

[@aacmove]

Looks more like a boy racer showing off to his mates on a track. Remember Teslas are fast and wa.kers are always just that.

[@rob_lightbody]

The silver wheels look miles better than the black ones.

[@Daniel-jm5hd]

Agreed.

[@animationcreations42]

@@rob_lightbody I don't normally like black wheels, but those silver ones are rancid

[@Sam-tx1tn]

They look better black on a black car

[@kamakrajuu]

No silver wheels date it. Time to move on my friend

[@rob_lightbody]

@@kamakrajuu nothing dates cars more than black wheels. They're a passing fad

[@Daniel-jm5hd]

Why hasn't this channel got more than 100k subscribers? Sensible advice and more interesting car reviews than most of the others. Thanks for the content this year and best wishes for Christmas and 2025.

[@kamakrajuu]

Because he isn’t the most likeable

[@paulc6766]

@@kamakrajuu I think he is, may be it's because he is a foreigner to you.

[@adriansmith-ro9nc]

😂😂😂

[@69spook]

EVs are a niche market.....

[@desertstar223]

Who are you asking?

[@stamfordly6463]

Those labour costs are Jaguar/Land Rover sort of numbers and very cheeky indeed. Highlights the need for independent garages to get themselves trained up and familiar with EVs though. It shows that most of what needs doing on these cars is meat-and-potatoes spanner work that an good mechanic can do and doesn't involve the angry pixies at all.

[@Dogtagnan]

A really sound idea but the cost of tooling up, astronomical insurance hike and training in high voltage safety would make it unviable for most independent garages.

[@stamfordly6463]

@@Dogtagnan You've missed the point, they don't need to be trained in dealing with high voltage to work on suspension or brakes or steering racks or tyres. All they really need is a basic course on which bits to leave alone.

[@mickandsejstock9207]

Thank you for such a great EV channel. Amongst a small group of others you’ve converted me to EV, proudly driving an MG5SE on Ohme/Octopus, I’ve taken the plunge and ordered a 2021 Mii EV for her indoors. Happy Christmas EVM and yours, from us down south. Keep it up - I’ll be chipping in a few ££ as soon as I can find the linky! BTW I still have an ICE RV, bike and classic MG - but EV is the way for the daily drivers.

[@thomasbroker69]

Me too love our MG5..

[@markmcadie354]

Took delivery of a 2016 Model S 75D only yesterday, with 180,000kms. Range is 350km or so. I am pretty happy with that.

[@binitbob]

I believe that is still eligible for free supercharging isn't it? If so enjoy cheap motoring. 😉

[@cool2180]

You probably work for Tesla. That's why your pretty happy

[@pacman7959]

Yeah right. That's the range

[@JonathanPalfrey]

It would be interesting to know how much the previous owner spent on repairs. If that’s the only paid repairs in 185,000 miles I’d say it’s a bargain and well worth it.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Sorry guys, Christmas and Tesla made the usual Sunday upload impossible I'm afraid!

[@rbdogwood]

Have a good one.

[@djgoode]

I’m thinking (I would 😂😂😂) a swap for my 2015 P85D 165175 miles as of today. Has SC01 so might actually work out good for you plus will be £20 road tax, you can even keep the wheels you have. Plus at 200k you can have to do the review.

[@marklola12]

Can you possibly help me with a question as i am stuck as what to do. We currently are with octopus energy on the tracker dec 23 v1 tarrif, it ends feb. I spoke to octopus and they said they have no info about next years prices but we can swap now to the october 24 v1 tracker tariff I googled and prices for electricity are aaid to go up by over 1% forgot the right amount. Do you think we should change now to tracker October 24 version or wait for next year and see whats what as i guess it will be too late to change to oct 24 one wheb the new tarrif is released

[@djgoode]

@ change now. My tariff I was offered was less than last year

[@marklola12]

​@@djgoodeI have the app which shows how much things are and the October one is obviously more than out 2024 tariff bit think from now atleast it will cost more on a 2025 tarrif than oct. So i am thinking same as you to change now

[@tigerv88]

Keep it, there is still more of the story this car can tell. I think when you consider its mileage a 4K bill to get it back to best is pretty good and wonder how much it would cost for a non EV to maintain it to 190k miles?? Tesla service seemed a bit poor though

[@CEUOTC]

72 plate MG5 20k on the clock 2nd hand bargain - SOH 96.8% - 200mile range in winter, so more than enough for my needs. Love your work and detail big man.

[@johnh3095]

Having lived in Germany for years and swapping summer for winter tyres yearly, if you get snow regularly, get a set of winters. Winter tyres are absolutely fabulous! The best advice I can give you is get a 2nd set of steel wheels and mount the winters on them! Storage is either to mount the wheels on the wall, or stack them (my choice). Top tip, whenever you swap wheels n tyres over after storing them, ALWAYS get them rebalanced! Tyres are alive (sort of) and rubber changes, a small 5g out of balance is magnified at speed and will wear bearings and suspension components! For the £5 a wheel, its well worth it! I enjoyed this one! Good on your wife going back in, so many wouldn't....or couldn't!

[@nxsynjs]

Keep it, I’m more interested in keeping EV’s for the long run, than the ‘everybody’s at it’ new car of the week.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

My priority is content though with this. If it ain’t generating any, it’s useless. Keeping it would be 1-2 videos a year at best.

[@pppscooby]

Its not the car, its what you do with it that will generate content.

[@rogerfinch7651]

Drag race 😂

[@CheeseLovingGuy]

​@@ElectricVehicleManGood point but could you sell it and arrange with the new owner to follow up on it. In exchange they get a top guy for advice should they need it. If they are prepared to talk about on it either on or off camera even better. That could be a way of extending the interest in your channel out. For example - hey guys remember this one it's finally changing hands again let's chat to the seller and keep our fingers crossed that the new buyer will come on board also. So madam you have bought a 10 year old Tesla blah blah

[@JustfishNascar]

Cheaper than I thought it would be.

[@graememuir9704]

I have an S75 and what's amazing about it is it's storage capacity, you need to take it on a trip and show how much you can put it and how little it affects range.

[@mickandsejstock9207]

Incidentally - I once bought an Aston DB7 because it was within reach. I dropped it a AM for the free new owner check over - no work, just the check. Hazard a guess??? £9k for what would be about £600 on a Ford Focus. Fixed it properly with OEM grade aftermarket parts for about 1k. Sold it due to a FUBAR aftermarket immobiliser issue. Wish I’d never laid eyes on it. Upshot is your OEM Tesla grand total seems perfectly fair for such a good tool!! 😂

[@ouethojlkjn]

This is what many people don't get - a dual motor model S is a serious performance premium car. It is not a Vauxhall Senator. A friend of mine bought himself a Maserati saloon thing, I can't recall the name. It had problem after problem, all the main dealer left him was his eyes to cry with.

[@roverchap]

Worth spending the money you did. This is the right way with older cars, they can cover high mileage and last many years if kept in good order. Even when the costs exceed the market value there is still value in the service the car will give you.

[@chriswatt2702]

Except maybe for “consumables”. I had some no name tyres recommended by a chain owned by one of this channels sponsors. That 3L SUV stuck to the road like 💩 to a blanket.

[@grahambate1567]

What's the corrosion level like beneath the car? Brakes, linkages etc

[@janisvaskevics93]

Also, you MUST keep an eye on motor bearings. When they start to whine, replace immediately! You will have to find a good independent service for that, as Tesla can't replace bearings without discarding motors. Driving wise Tesla is the only brand that offers benefits of electrics - performance, acceleration and comfort.

[@johnbelk9253]

You can`t beat a Yorkshire man for proper down to earth decisions. Keep it up Andy

[@gledy2]

Just bought my first Tesla, 2016 90d 100k miles, and no warranty. It’s had all the door handles replaced a couple of years ago along with the air suspension all round and compressor. Best bit hopefully was a new hgv battery just over a year ago. Had it less than a week and only issue is water in the boot, which I’m investigating. Was £3k more than yours. Hopefully it will work out well! Good lick with yours, following with interest

[@a1gnarlydude]

I’m on my 2nd M3 and we now have an E Corsa. In the new year Octopus 🐙 are putting in an heat pump and I’m removing my gas boiler and hob! After that I’m going for solar and battery pack. Much of this adoption is down to your number crunching, educational videos and honest shared insights! Happy Christmas EVM, way to go!

[@keithw7777]

Road Noise; is the S quieter than the model3? Do the Michelin or Tesla tyresOEM have foam inside to reduce road noise and if so how can you tell which new tyres have foam inserts when you on on Black circle, for example?

[@paulscott1759]

so long as it is reliable and you feel happy with the car keep it definitely, looks ok to me i used to run company cars with big mileages and the dealers slowly replaced suspension and water pump,alternator etc the lease company where not happy at the spend but they wouldnt recall it early ,hi to Hertz and Lex leasing

[@stevelamb143]

Unfortunately they do over charge, I too was charged £165 for less than a mile of driving. After complaint this was removed from the bill, after 43k miles both front and rear suspension had a £3k bill. Just not what you expect for such a low mileage.

[@MetalVII]

A full refurb should be around £300. I paid £360 for my alloys to be made like new and had a colour change too. But that was nice of your viewer. As for the repairs, use EVCleevly. They come to you and are cheaper and better than Tesla. I’ve just had a rattle (quite loud and got worse over time) repaired by EVC. They replaced both my air struts (Einbach) for £2k, Tesla wanted £5k for the same job.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

As said in the video, this couldn’t be done on my drive.

[@paulf3353]

Einbach doesn't do struts for model S, what did they replace it with exactly ? Rattle is a common problem on model s, you can fix it by tightening bolt on a top of the strut and save 2k. It is a design flaw of those struts.

[@MetalVII]

@@paulf3353 it’s air suspension front struts. The make is Eibach. I just checked my photo (I’m dyslexic, just checking I didn’t make a mistake).

[@paulf3353]

@@MetalVII Gas struts themselves are made by Bilstein and full airstrut assembly is made by Firestone.

[@andrewgage6942]

I like these cars, although electric vehicles are out of my price range and I lack the ability to charge at home, but your reviews are always sensible, you point out the pros and cons of all vehicles, good and fair reviews. I've followed these videos, this has been a good review I've enjoyed watching and following the progress of this vehicle If I had access to home charging, and obviously the money to buy one, I would consider one of these. I am no good with technology, it's not just electric vehicles, but all modern vehicles are going to screens which I have zero knowledge of, as another KZbinr said, I'm a cabbage because I don't understand technology that I've never been taught, that though does put me off modern vehicles. I personally would keep the vehicle as it's so practical, it's got loads of load space, plenty of space for passengers as to be fair, mileage on modern day vehicles whether electric or combustion engined doesn't matter much unless you're selling a vehicle, another KZbinr bought a Tesla with close to half a million on the clock, it's how well the vehicles are looked after, how well they're maintained as to how long they last, I drive a 799cc, 3 cylinder diesel, it's 13 years old, covered 160,000 miles and still keeps on running, but it's serviced twice a year, regularly maintained, if it needs doing, I get it done if I can't do it myself, when I bought it back in 2011, everyone said, you'll be lucky to see 80,000 miles out of that, it won't last 10 years, I've got another 10 years to retirement (hopefully, if the government doesn't change it), I hope the car will keep going until I retire in 2034

[@paulclarke308]

I thought so too. Second hand model 3 and I only use superchargers. I regularly do 250 miles a day and I love it.

[@larryfine6865]

Love both our Model Y’s. Today is my 2021 4 year birthday 86,000 miles no issues. Hauls Ass like new.

[@benduffy79]

Could you put a screenshot of the invoice please.

[@trevorberridge6079]

To answer your question: A Tesla Model S 75D in something akin to nearly new condition with at least 88% battery SOH for £15,000 outlay is an absolute bargain. It had an RRP of £75,000 when launched. 20% the original price with circa 90% of the range and most of it's performance remaining. No brainer of the century.

[@Dogtagnan]

Always buy secondhand and let the first owner take the depreciation hit. But what depreciation! Wow!

[@trevorberridge6079]

@@Dogtagnan Depreciation is irrelevant. Every car loses value the moment you buy it. On average in the UK the first year sees up to 20% depreciation and then 10% every year after that. That means that in six years you lose 70% of the car's value. The average age of a licensed vehicle is nine by which time your car is effectively worthless. Anything you can get for it is a bonus. And some vehicles are licensed for up to 12 years (as was the last ICE car I owned from new). So most people that intend to keep their car lose value on it. It makes no difference to most people buying new, but it makes cars (ANY type of car) more affordable to the 91% of owners who DON'T buy new. Depreciation is just another false argument against EVs. Ironically, it was only a few years ago that used Teslas were selling for MORE than new ones because people were so eager to get their hands on one. And even original Nissan Leafs have sold at 10 years of age and only depreciated by 50% of their value. So sometimes the trend with EVs is to depreciate LESS than ICE cars or even GAIN value.

[@Beauloqs]

​@@trevorberridge6079irrelevant, really.....😂😂😂😂

[@trevorberridge6079]

@Beauloqs Totally. Especially as most people don't buy new nor is depreciation unique to EVs.

[@paulshort1027]

@@Beauloqs Depreciation isnt a loss, it is a cost.

[@delboy7039]

An interesting driver video, would be to London and back, including the stops at a Tesla supercharger station. Just showing how 'normal' it is, to start charge, go to the 'facilities' and return, then go about your day......

[@mbak7801]

Five days to clean a car. WOW, just WOW. Five minutes is too long for me. Once a quarter mine gets taken to a wash where it is jetted all over. Job done. I cannot think of a more 'cruel and unusual' punishment than cleaning a car when you know a 5 minute drive later it will look exactly as dirty as it did before it was washed. Madness. That aside I always use Michelin tyres as well. Maintenance with quality parts is important. Not looking grubby matters not a jot.

[@StephenButlerOne]

Totally agree, I'm a car lover, but I hate cleaning my cars. I'll just take mine to my local polish car wash. Though these are a really good one, though cheap at £9 for a wash. They use good practices and they are a family, no employees so they do it with pride.

[@mondotv4216]

You have to remember EVM used to detail cars for a living so I think he enjoys the challenge.

[@pogoworley4903]

I put one of my cars in for a full detail, which included Decon wash, 3 stage machine polish,engine bay,interior,wheel refurb,a bit of P.D.R.work and a ceramic coating applied. it was in for 2 weeks solid. I have done my last 3 cars myself and I average about 5 days. So I can totally relate to this.

[@howardjones8629]

Nice work fella, good to see an alternative view of being an EV owner. Id have that in a heartbeat so well done for getting it back to being sorted 👍

[@scottmitchell2788]

Are you reading your bill correct usually the labour charge is listed as 165 but to the left under qty it will say 0.5 or 0.25 etc meaning 0.5=1/2 of the 165?????

[@iainhusband445]

On your price comparison you forgot to mention that it had been fantastically cleaned and brought back to shinny. Which I bet the similar ones on Auto trader haven't been. It would be great to see you drive it to 250,000. Then talk about the recommended life span of similar spec'ed ICE cars.

[@radiotowers1159]

The only thing different I would have done would be to fit crossclimate tyres..Thanks again

[@Mark-bl3wg]

Hi, so after all you have done, which would you have the model s or the BMW i3????

[@beerfantv]

That’s a good car. It’s been checked & signed off by Tesla itself. Peace of mind motoring, worth the spend.

[@parksmush]

Fantastic way to buy a car - getting it to 200k and doing a decent battery health check sounds like a good idea, it would be interesting to know how the tyres are wearing after the suspension and alignment work from the dealership. 👍

[@imprezaaudi]

If you've got a bit of mechanical knowledge, you can save a few quid on basic servicing. I've just done complete brake job on our model 3 with 100k miles on it. Cabin filters, wipers brake fluid swap. Save plenty.

[@simonreeves2017]

Hi EVM, from your audience perspective, keeping this Model S and seeing how it holds up as the miles and age pile on would be fascinating.

[@jimbo9310]

Merry Christmas and thanks for the great content 👍😊

[@gfusion]

I’ve got a 77,000 mile model 3 and have had a few small bits done as well. The trick with Tesla is to just tell them what to fix and don’t allow them to do any diagnosis or post validation investigation drives etc. This is why it pays to have some mechanical knowledge sometimes. Find out exactly what the problem is beforehand. I had a failed wheel bearing and there were multiple £165 entries for exactly the above. I also wanted my lower lateral links replaced with the same multiple £165 entries. I told them in the service request..NO, you remove and replace lateral links and you replace the wheel bearing, nothing else is required. They amended the estimate and it went from like £900 to £350. Never allow any garage/dealership to dictate to you. Not just a Tesla thing, all major brands will just slap on all of their diagnosis and investigation fees as default.

[@MrWobling]

Please at least do a "Living with a high mileage Model S" video.

[@techweenie4712]

Tesla service in my area has been priced significantly lower than independent shops. And BTW, local Porsche dealer is at $385/hour. One more point: I've seen stats that indicate Gen Model S HV battery replacement rate is 1.5%.

[@rogermowat401]

I think that was Andrew’s point, that Tesla was charging a blanket hourly rate irrespective of how long the job took. Anyone who has watched his channel for any length of time will know he always aims to get best value for his money. Unless you access a company like RS Symonds EV specialists you want somebody who knows their way around a Tesla. The upside, will be reflected when selling and at lease covered by warranty for work done. Great episode.

[@petergrant6484]

£55 plus £165 labour to replace a charging port seems quite reasonable. My local VW dealer quoted over £1000 to replace the faulty port on my old Golf 7.5 GTE. Second time it had failed. It was previously replaced under warranty. I guess wear ‘n tear of daily use. My Polestar 2 port however only gets used once or twice a week.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Charge port door, not the charge port.

[@martymar7465]

I've got one like this as well with over 200 thousand miles I think you gonna love it and keep it.

[@MCSMIK]

Not too bad all things considered really! But one thing… Have a look and tell us. Are the majority of those £165 appear as… £165 x 0.5 i.e. half an hours work instead of a full hour. As that’s what I saw on my receipts from the past from Tesla

[@melmot99]

Well done and informative. When people ask me what ev to buy I say ‘safe option is Tesla’.

[@tonyc2837]

Those Labour charges are pretty much the same at all main dealership nowadays. Only thing I don’t believe is that each item was estimated at 1 hour, surely some must have been part hour times. I think it’s the lack of independent specialists that are holding back the ev market.

[@Beyondact]

How are charge times on the battery? Identical to when it was new? Faster? Slower? I never seem to get any reviews on that, only how well the battery performs compared to new for milage.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

It’s hit its max when I supercharged it last.

[@Beyondact]

@@ElectricVehicleMan But how long did it take? With range fear and charging times being virtually the two only reasons people don't buy an EV I'd like to see numbers on if going from 20% to 80% takes longer time to do on an old battery or if it remains the same, or maybe gets shorter as the wattage it'll performs goes down. You've done a fair few videos where the 20 minute stop on long drives has been mentioned so it really is a thing worth looking at imo and just a quick "Yep 10% to 50% and 20% to 80% and 5% to 100% are all still take identical times to do" would do me, but if there is a difference that would be useful information.

[@kelvin1316]

Isn't it the Leaf that started the missinformation on battery life? Because it isnt actively temp controlled it cooks the batreries? Modern cars all have active conditioning systems so should last way longer.

[@jvoric]

Some of my colleagues at work still think EV batteries are done after 3 years! 🙄

[@JJomoro]

Lots of misinformation out here. With channels like this we hope that changes.

[@brendanc5519]

Na most people think it's 10 years, meanwhile I'm still driving my 2003 358,000 mile Citroen C5. EVs are shite they only last 10 years so if you're a low mileage driver cooked your not going to spend thousands on a new battery the things will be scrapped, meanwhile diesel, petrol and hybrids (cheaper smaller batteries)keep going year after year.

[@casperhansen826]

​@@brendanc5519u r misinformed as well, car batteries will most likely outlast the EV and can have a second life as grid storage before they are recycled info new materials

[@usefulrandom1855]

@@brendanc5519 Cars in the UK are scrapped after about 14 years on average though. Most do not see past about 150,000 miles. You are the exception not the rule. Can they be kept going with maintenance, yes but it becomes cost prohibitive to do so. EV batteries are dropping in price year over year, and more garages will do repairs rather than replace.

[@leostenbuck9946]

I want to do the same so bought an electric car and using it every day and helping family friends who has doubts of electric cars.

[@jamiepicken1938]

Loved this Model S content! 👍.. With such a popular channel I’m sure you’ll have amassed £5k in Tesla referral credit so your Tesla repair bill will be covered. Would love to see more content on the Model S as the miles go on it but prob makes financial sense to sell it as there’s real profit in it now and the future content options are reducing/limited. Happy Christmas mate, love the channel 👍

[@phil342]

In the UK for past 20 years the dealerships have to work to FST (factory standard times). So the times calculated for the jobs are those minimum times. These are what the factory will allow/ pay you for warranty repairs. Overlap times are taken into consideration. To still make a ton of profits labour rates became so high. In the old days you could charge whatever you liked. In USA they charge whatever they like, no FST which means that they are overcharging. It appears as though Tesla have exported this into their UK dealerships. You can ask the Tesla dealer for their hourly rate, and ask them to supply you with the FST’s for the repairs they are doing, too coincidental that they seem to be charging an hour for every small job, when some might only have an FST of 12 minutes?

[@gfusion]

Tesla’s hourly rate is £165, but they do accurately work to FSTs in my experience. For example, a job was booked to be 42 minutes and 30 minutes for two repairs I had. And I was charged the correct portion of the £165 hourly rate to reflect the allocated repair time.

[@phil342]

@ that’s good to know, but in this video there are too many 1 hour jobs. Look forward to discovering what the FST’s are for the jobs.

[@ssj8423]

What are you doing with the spare wheels? I’d be interested if they’re going, have a Tesla model S with 21’s on and could do with a set of 19’s to help with efficiency

[@randomtherapy]

This should cheer you up then. I've done something similar on my channel. I bought a 21 plate space. In it's first year of ownership I have lost £20000 and the car has just turned 10000 miles. Jest subbed to support you as I took love my EV. 👍

[@reinmansmith]

What would be really interesting would be to run this and see how long it will run reliably and what the battery condition state is as the miles climb….

[@domzar7697]

I have a Models 90D bought new in 2017, 80k. I had a rattle too thought the suspension was the issue but saw something online about brake service. Local garage did the job £35 and the rattle is no more.

[@tafkabandit72]

The steering wheel alignment issue - I had the same on my model Y. They told me they just use the "service" display to decide whether the steering wheel is central. They said it can look off because of the position of the stalks, the curved "dash" etc. It still annoys me when I drive it. I even tried to realign it myself but they over-tightened the lock nuts on the track rod ends so I couldn't undo them. I know they did this because the factory alignment markers were out on the nuts.

[@mikecrawford9537]

I'd also be interested to see if you were able to find a buyer for anything like that money considering the mileage and the distrust of battery reliability after the battery warranty is out

[@QALibrary]

18:16 Model S Suspension kits and upgrades are ready available - did you not think of doing it yourself? - is not a hard thing to do and the parts are better quality than Telsa while being cheaper - it is a very well-known issue with this car.

[@radfoo]

Never been convinced by high mileage cars, ice or ev. I think you have proved my theory of being wary. It sounded like you have already decided to sell and think you are right, risky keeping longer as still possibly other issues down the line.

[@FlyingFun.]

£165 for every entry on the system lol. I bet all those £165s were just made up and the genuine time spent on car was a lot lower. This is the reason I don't use main dealers, I had exactly the same issue with the steering wheel after a dealer a serviced my car once and did the alignment thing.

[@davidjohnbarnard]

Read @MCSMIK above

[@markhugen2169]

Merry Christmas - love your content 🙂. How did you get Tesla to perform a full review of your car? That's not an option in the app? I had the same issue with the degradation test of the battery. They cancelled the service appointment and wrote that the battery is within specification, but didn't provide a report or percentage. I have purchased an obd connector and the scan my tesla app to find out what the degradation of the battery is.

[@sp1es]

Do you not need to have the battery checked for moisture-ingress?

[@CED99]

Was there not issues with early Model S 75's, with the coolant leaking into the rear motor?

[@FARTOOSHORT]

And to think, when I owned a Skoda Estelle, my daughters used to sit in the rear footwells to avoid being seen by their schoolmates. 😂

[@benrhydding]

Let's see a long distance road trip fully loaded (like a family would for a summer trip to Devon etc)

[@markeaton6734]

Would like to see you do a long roadtrip in this, do some charging tests and various other things that would show how well it has held up. Personally I'd love to keep a car like this but then I'm not trying to do a KZbin channel.

[@johndavies1912]

My P90D (pre facelift) is soon to be at 100,000 miles. I have the problem with the gloop exiting the original LCD display. This is an £1,800 quid upgrade to the MCU2 to replace. I'm told by many to do it as it makes the car infotainment system so much quicker and improves functionality. Is yours MCU1 or 2 and what are your thoughts on that type of spend??

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

If you’re keeping the car, might as well do it and enjoy it.

[@kenpage9560]

Is there a difference between the suspension setup and hardware in an EV compared to an ICE? If not could any mechanic take on most if not all the annual safety related servicing?

[@johnodell5310]

That figure seems reasonable for a car with such a high mileage. Remember how much youve saved on fuel (at least £3000 a year £60 a week). Such a high mileage on a fuel car would have meant new engine or major replacement parts and possibly a new gearbox etc etc)

[@Greystone1111]

For an everyday car. So Called everyday transportation, I personally love the noiseless and quickness behaviour, of a good EV

[@stephandolby]

You mentioned that new tyres would raise the value of the car. I popped my car into a trade-in form on Cinch as a test (so basically WBAC), and got less than I expect; I wonder how likely it'd be that they'd raise their valuation if they realised the car had relatively new Michelins and not, say, Landsails or possibly (as seen in this video) Delintes? Probably not likely at all. Also, an AutoExpress article popped up on my phone earlier called "Unsure about electric cars? Don’t let others make up your mind" which I feel is definitely targeted more at the negative attitudes towards EVs. Just... avoid the comments on there, I've no idea what's happening.

[@A-Lovely-Bit-of-Kit]

Not that I would ever spend 15k on any car, but a 15k spend on this looks good value to me. At least you know now what you have got under you. Interesting fee structure, which would seem to be a 'per hour or part thereof' applied to each individual job rather than the work as a whole. Probably common in main dealers and manufacturer operations? As you might guess from my comment on 15k breaking my purchase limit, it's been several decades since I last used a dealer for servicing....

[@hughmarcus1]

It would have been interesting to see what Cleevely EV would have charged. 70% of their work is in Teslas

[@gavinwomersley2054]

Really enjoyed your content here and your earlier material on the model S. Am not a subscriber but if you were to do a few more pieces on living with this car and its pros and cons then you will earn my subscription.

[@MrHemlock51]

As you've got a spare set of ratty wheels, you could get a set of winter tyres. Just the thing for commuting in Yorkshire.

[@jimewart532]

15,500 sounds like a very good deal to me, considering it is almost like new now and has respectable battery health.

[@leighparsons]

Vehicle Bodycare Centre, Cross Green, Leeds. They're Tesla's recommended body shop and gave me excellent service fixing some serious issues on my Model 3 recently (my fault entirely - not the car's). Might not necessarily be cheaper but at least an alternative who know what they're doing with properly trained staff..

[@Ulfilias]

Tessie App will give you an idea of the state of the battery. My 2017 S100D has about 8% loss on 115k I swapped my wiper motor myself certainly easy if you've done any car DIY. Having looked at the suspension bits it's just a car and any decent garage should be able to do bits and to be honest Teslas hourly rate is eyewatering! Oh and the S scrubs the inside of tyres, annoyingly there isn't any camber adjustment and the air suspension drop at highway speeds makes it worse 😢

[@protectiongeek]

Very interesting vid, thanks. I've always thought that a lot of EV sceptics fail to realise that components like suspension and steering, maybe even bodywork as well as the fabric of the cabin will deteriorate way before the main battery ever does. Your Model S looks very nice now. After all that money and effort, it would be worth keeping it for a while, surely?

[@fairmania]

If you had noticed the offset steering wheel as you drove away you should have taken it back and told them to fix it now. They are going to ream you out every time they touch that car, and if there's nowhere local that will touch it, you should have bought something else. It could become a money pit due to lack of available options service wise.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

They were shut when I picked it up. No charge for doing it again.

[@roygardiner4002]

Are you on MCU2 ? If not get it upgraded (£1.4k) + £400 for a reliable radio unit. We"ve spent less on our '14 S85 using independents, including £2.5k on all new suspension arms a rear lamp unit and new wiper mech. Range now 220 miles at 100% and best handling quickest car i've ever had.

[@cad4246]

I'm sure the suspension work could have been done locally, even if you'd had to source the parts yourself.

[@aidanapword]

What's the software like? Still getting updates?

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Yup

[@LysanderLH]

The reflector on my charge door was hit by a large hailstone and cracked, so as it is a separate part to the door itself and just cosmetic, I contacted Tesla…. so it is still cracked because I refuse to have Tesla fit an entire charger, as they told me they would need to do, because they dont supply just the reflector and that is stupid.

[@anthonylloyd4425]

I recently had the door release button fixed by Tesla (under warranty) they replaced the entire door card.

[@LysanderLH]

@ What’s the point of creating eco credentials to boast about, if they chuck more away than they need to?

[@tonykelpie]

Not a great advert for Tesla service

[@LysanderLH]

@ I have just requested a service appointment to diagnose a DC charging warning. Tesla are sending a mobile tech to my house on Monday morning to fix it and a few recall items eg. boot strut O ring at the same time. It’s probably a matter of time vs cost and time is more expensive than some components, so it’s quicker to chuck some things away, than to repair them. That’s how things are designed these days.

[@foam27]

Ebay

[@joeynessily]

You should use it to challenge those other YT channels like Whatcar or Auto Alex who continue to do clueless EV range tests stacking the deck in ICE favour by charging at the worst locations. Aim to make your journey as realistic, cheap and stress free as well.

[@cretumarius9616]

If you could it will be nice to see for how long it will last la battery and the transmission

[@Janez-h1e]

Mine is privately owned, 495.000km. So far battery renewed, motor resealed. And some minor stuff. Best cars I've ever had, better then Mercedes Benz cars of the 80's.

[@leemartin-hine2200]

Now you’ve sorted it, I’d keep it and use it for the commute you do.

[@MrHotrod79]

7 years of main dealer servicing in a bmw/audi etc (say £400 a year) would have cost more than you just spent for actual renewal of the vehicle. Looks like good value

[@Bloke-in-Stoke]

Great one once again sir. The wife still isn't getting it but I I'm going to assert my authority in the new year and demand my solar and heat pump... No harm in dreaming is there? Festive Cheers 🎅🍺🎄