World’s 1st XNO niobium EV battery charges to 100% in 10 mins

[@electricviking]

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[@rassabossa4554]

If I was still drinking, I'd be having fun with The Electric Viking Drinking Game ( a shot every time Sam says "game changing"). Anyway, I hope it works out (assuming the world doesn't blow itself up in the meantime).

[@mariebaxter473]

I was going along the same lines , wishing i had a quid for every time a new battery tech was being tried out , Your way is quicker as by the end of the week i would loose my sense of balance and just not care any more .LOL

[@jefdamen2977]

It is not a game by the way

[@AlexSomers-d2n]

thats nothing compared to the AI generated Catlin Clark videos

[@michaeljames5936]

@@jefdamen2977 Really? When did that change?

[@michaeljames5936]

@@mariebaxter473 Like yourself, I've been following battery, pv and every development for years, but was utterly shocked to discover they're building a 1GWh iron-air battery just a few miles away. I hadn't heard about those in maybe three four years. A lot of this stuff is finally coming through. (Too late, but hey, we'll leave a technologically beautiful corpse.)

[@KupiProdaj-b9b]

I took a shot every time he said 'breakthrough'... I couldn't see the end of most videos 🤣🤣

[@laurenth7187]

You forget that the faster you charge the more power you need. The more infrastructure you need. All things we don't have.

[@gerrysecure5874]

Thats what I was going to say. To charge a 80kwh battery in 10min requires 480kw power. There is no infrastructure to charge a single car like that. Not to mention millions.

[@bvirgin123456]

It's a chicken and egg problem. Why build an infrastructure if no technology can take advantage of it? Why would you build the technology if the infrastructure is not there? If the technology is real and worth pursuing, the infrastructure will follow. In terms of charging that quickly, batteries at the charging station could be installed to smooth out the charge curves. In other words, today's infrastructure transports it to the batteries on site during off-peak hours. In that way, you are only charging quickly from the batteries to the car.

[@mikeshafer]

Super exciting Sam! Keep these awesome videos coming.

[@RichDunn]

Another day, another battery breakthrough. The God I believe in, has "game changers" in production.

[@martiruda]

something 100 years of oil has not seen go this fast

[@BrentonSmythesfieldsaye]

Definition "breakthrough" - "A major achievement or success that permits further progress, as in technology." What's the problem? Why are you, like others, sooking over nothing? Who cares if breakthroughs arrive by the hour, the day, the month, the year, whatever, just keep them coming!

[@GbMuthu]

Yes, which is why Battery As Service is the way to purchase an EV.

[@RichDunn]

@@BrentonSmythesfieldsaye Chillax guys. I'm 100% all in on EV's. My house has been EV's only for years now. The tongue in cheek comment is because if you've been following Sam for years, as I have, he has posted maybe 100+ clickbait videos of 'claimed' breakthroughs. But the reality is, very few of them have ever come to fruition, and many (just like this one), are based on the fact that the test is done on a very small battery. Even on a regular power outlet, the small battery in my iPhone charges extremely fast when it is flat. Try that with a 135Kw battery like in my Rivian truck!

[@RichDunn]

@@martiruda Naturally battery tech is advancing way faster than done to death ICE, but its only any good 'IF' it makes it to production, which I can almost guarantee this never will, based on the 100 or so other similar video's Sam's posted making similar claims (one multiple years) that haven't either!

[@koenraad4618]

A Nio Eve with Niobium anodes, game changing poetry.

[@sailingonasummerbreeze7892]

A key benefit - this is mined in Canada and Brazil, so it is not restricted to unfriendly geographies.

[@SuperGooner-wg5ev]

Unfriendly geographies?

[@euphegeniadoubtfire1364]

Unfriendly geographies like the International Rules Based Order are terms coined by the West when the people they demand to kneel before them and kiss the ring on their finger do not play ball or dance to the tunes that they play.

[@fishfullness]

So will attract a tarrif ;)

[@sneakymove]

Who is the one unfriend everyone else except USA . Lol.

[@captainwin6333]

Canada is unfriendly, parading Nazis in their parliament.

[@mafianoodles]

it looks like a gamechanger!

[@jckelley10]

There's so much competition in the battery market that breakthroughs are inevitable! Thanks Sam.

[@electricviking]

Absolutely! Exciting times ahead.

[@lpad9651]

Sam, You give us the best and latest information. Thank you!

[@MecTecher]

Now make it affordable and available to the mainstream consumer.

[@oliver90owner]

Niobium is a precious metal. There is a good reason for that. It is rare, as well. However, any advancement may lead to improvements with other parts of the battery. It’s called research. The lead/acid battery was not automobile-ready when first introduced. It’s no more ‘grid-hungry’. 70kWh would still only be needed for a 70kWh battery. It may take years to introduce, something like this, to the market. Further, how much more does a car require, wrt charging time? According to the click-bait EV-haters, it only needs to compare favourably with a fossil burning, toxic, polluting engine. Nobody regularly charges from 0% and few to 100% now, so 20% to 80% is likely attainable in a more satisfactory time scale. I don’t know, and don’t care, if this doesn’t work out. There will be others and there will be progress. Rome was not built in a day. ICE has had over 130 years just get to where it is - and hasn’t developed that far in the last 30. Fossil fuels are not unlimited in supply; global overheating is rapidly descending on planetary life (not just us humans); renewable energy is the future. Get used to it. If any of these break-throughs occur before 2030, the EV haters will have less excuse, to whinge, than they do now. I hope I will be here to see the day when ICE cars are no longer sold in the UK. Even if these better batteries were only applicable to heavy plant/agriculture/etc it would be another step forward.

[@mikemalone9678]

Removing protectionist tarriffs would do that.

[@daveladd99]

Sam has done more to whet my appetite for EVs, but also delay my first purchase due to development breakthroughs!!!

[@danielcpt3819]

This is legit. Niobium cells are definitely going to be used for high power cell applications.

[@ajdailey3698]

Thank you Sam for sharing the news of advancements in the energy industry. The world needs the changes.

[@andywurst4873]

I'm sure CATL is already looking into this - you think?

[@anthonytruta2745]

I'll believe it when I see it in.production without problems.

[@stevebobhorace]

A lot of sarcastic comments but consider that one day one of these new battery types will emerge the winner

[@4-SeasonNature]

Just like how Elon Musk laughed at Chinese EVs 10 years ago. But they are kicking his butt now.

[@zoltanberkes8559]

​​@@4-SeasonNatureNo, they don't. If they kicked his butt, Tesla would be in a demand issue. Actually, Elon Musk's goal was to make other car manufacturers produce EVs to accelerate the trsnsition to renewable energies. He also opened Tesla's patterns. He knew that he couldn't make Tesla big enough to make all the cars the world needs and by time, Tesla will be just one big car company on the market. So, it looks like to me that everythings happens as he planned.

[@therealthreadkilla]

I remember how "super conductivity" was a "break through" and a "game changer" and how were could look forward to all these new products in the coming years. It's 40 years later and we're still waiting. The USSA has become a "headline" economy used for the inevitable pump and dump. Much like how AI is also the "game changer" while my talk to text and spell check still doesn't work.

[@thankscraig8361]

Thanks so much World Peace

[@Pinakij]

Back to the middle and back again 💯% pure love

[@getinthespace7715]

Carge in 10 min is great. Now we need 3-5x energy density.

[@TronJockey]

Wow, 10,000 charge cycles. At that rate an EV with only 250 miles per charge will have gone 2.5 million miles after 10,000 charges. Hell, even if it's abused and only lasts 5,000 charge cycles that's still well over a million miles.

[@MyrKnof]

So, its bascially not needed. They can design it to degrade faster, for higher charge speeds. Or push the voltes higher, for more range.

[@mikemalone9678]

Let US automaker at it. They will design it to fail after 30,000 miles.

[@r.dunkley9625]

I guess the biggest problem here is that niobium is quite rare, hard to find and very expensive. Brazil has a couple of mines that put out about 88% of the world's output. Canada has a mine that puts out about another 8% of the world's output. Not sure where the remaining 4% is mined. Niobium has a lot of other important uses so adding the demand that would come from using it in all or most EV batteries will almost assuredly cause the already high price to skyrocket. For this technology to see widespread use in the EV battery market, they better not need a lot of it for each battery, otherwise it could add a lot of cost to the price of a battery that contains it in the anode. Also uncertain is whether or not there is enough of it in the world for the supply to keep up with the kind of demand using it in all or most EV batteries would put on the supply. Anglo American reports that they're now having to adapt their processing plant in Brazil to process fresh rock ore because their higher grade oxidized rock ore which they have been mining almost exclusively will soon be depleted. This suggests that a long-term sustainable supply of the metal that would be large enough to supply the EV battery industry may not exist.

[@malcolmrickarby2313]

Previous uses for Niobium were in welding rods for stainless steel and as an addition to brass for making bells. IIRC the metal was sourced from Russia.😊

[@r.dunkley9625]

@@malcolmrickarby2313 It is also used in the production of high temperature resistant alloys and special stainless steels, also used in aerospace, shipbuilding, oil and gas industries, pipelines, superconducting magnets used in Maglev propulsion, MRI machines and the Hadron Collider. It's also used in mobile phone circuitry, a lens glass additive and micro-capacitors. As I said before, 88% of world production comes from two areas of Brazil, 8% from Canada and 4% somewhere else likely either southern Africa or Russia.

[@gatoleblanc8432]

The way fuel cell catalysts and membranes and there anode and cathodes becoming so efficient that one day a small coke bottle full of cheap green hydrogen will take your car 1000 miles, this is coming, and new solar cell making hydrogen coming to market that will run homes and cars, and cheap cost effective prices Why because solar cells have become more efficient making hydrogen than battery storage or just plan electricity, fuel cells are becoming truly remarkable engines for all transportation, secret of fuel cells is fuel cells actually clean the air as they run due to there electrolysis!

[@petebrown8914]

Australian company WA1 has discovered a massive Niobium resource in Western Australia. They will be the second biggest and best Niobium mine in the world once the mine is up and running.

[@ericbennik2071]

Substitute with vanadium which is abundant in the Earths crust.

[@danncorbit3623]

When I was in high school, they had not yet invented the lithium battery. They knew that it had enormous potential, and there were theories about lithium/sulfur batteries but nobody had made a lithium battery that worked yet. Now, that was a long time ago (I graduated in 1976). There were some attempts at it but nothing commercial for a long time. So, even though they knew the potential was there, it took a long time to harness the ideas into something commercially viable. Even so, radical ideas are interesting. Perhaps Niobium is not the only material that can produce this same effect. At any rate, eventually, some of the "game changer" ideas will come to fruition. That is what a rechargeable lithium battery was ages ago, and now we have them in our cell phones and a zillion other places. Technology moves forward and it starts in the lab. Once a good idea is found, people try to make money with it. Some times they succeed right away. Sometimes it takes decades. At any rate, charging speeds are not as important with long travelling distances that the newer cars are developing. If you have a charging station at home, you can charge all night. If you can wait until you reach your destination, then there is no hurry to recharge then either. It is only when you are forced to recharge on the way that it matters a lot. And 10 minutes is better than 20, but I think most people can live with 20 for the time being. If we get cars that can go 1000 miles due to increasing energy density, then the charging time will be even less relevant. I find it amusing that so many people whine about your technology announcements. I don't think I ever heard you promise that it would be ready tomorrow. So keep up the good work Sam. I find all of your posts to be very interesting.

[@andrewsaint6581]

Well said. The simpletons who are here to be negative are important to boost the channel in the algorithm but add nothing to the conversation. The opposite of love is not hate it's ambivalence. Sam and the electric future are living rent free in their heads.

[@gatoleblanc8432]

The Hydrogen Fuel Cell market has taken leaps and bounds in year, fuel cell catalysts, membranes, anode and cathodes have become much more cost effective, real powerful, comparison to the combustion engine and cost closer to the lithium EV, the enhancements performances of the fuel cells are trully becoming remarkable, new state of the art hydrogen refueling fuel cell tanks about the size of propane BBQ tank and smaller replacement refueling cartridges which to buy at convenience stores some day, giving ranges of over 300 miles per fill in minutes, made of really strong carbon fiber with top cut off hydrogen impact leak sensors tanks for cars, trucks, buses high level impact safe, comparison higher safe next to making ones propane BBQ tank, so whats holding fuel cell cars from mass production is infrastructure of green hydrogen and refueling stations, this also taking leaps in investment pouring into sector, way it looks by 2030 there will be abundance green hydrogen it will make heads spin put lithium EV cars at extinct levels, after all lithium EV cars mostly taking for ever recharging on oil and coal grids and driving MrFreeze cars in winter areas a no, lithium cars need enormous amounts of metals highly polluters to mines especially lithium which is a disaster for the environment.

[@malcolmrickarby2313]

@@gatoleblanc8432it’s a shame that the advances have come too late for a serious impact.😢

[@regisgilben8488]

@@gatoleblanc8432 Let me know when I can refill my car with hydrogen at home overnight. Hydrogen is a dud, give it up.

[@danncorbit3623]

@@gatoleblanc8432 Here is the AI overview of your process: "Hydrogen from fossil fuels" refers to the process of extracting hydrogen gas from hydrocarbon sources like natural gas, coal, or oil, which are considered fossil fuels; this is currently the most common method of hydrogen production, with the majority of hydrogen being derived from natural gas through a process called steam methane reforming, generating significant carbon emissions in the process. In other words, the hydrogen revolution is a polluting mess that is just another way to extract money from the consumer for decades and keep those pumps pumping away instead of letting sunlight on your garage roof provide for your energy costs.

[@gw7231]

Now I want $2.00 for every magical battery you’ve reported on…thx.

[@andrewsaint6581]

Why?

[@Charlie.com.au1]

@@andrewsaint6581 so he doesn't have to ever work again 🤫

[@Sparkyoleano]

@@andrewsaint6581😂😂😂

[@MangoCitizen]

I will bid for taking $1.5 😂😂

[@emmanuilushka]

$50 per kWh in 2024 is a magical battery what else do you want?

[@Mixos_place]

The lemmings have a sense of humour - refreshing

[@joejimmy8088]

كل ما كان زمن شحن بطاريات السيارات الكهربائية اسرع فأسرع هذا سيقضي على الميزة الوحيدة التي عند السيارات التى تعمل بالبنزين والديزل

[@stanleyww]

Sam is doing a great job putting out all potential breakthroughs . It's unfair to expect him to pick all the winners . Remember prior to circa 2010 there was a handful of people globally doing R&D . Eveready and Duracell pretended to improve but were really in the replacement business and had no real intention. Obviously now it would be one of the biggest R&D sectors in the world. That means the smartest people on planet are effectively competing and collaborating. When that occurs thru history things always surprise to the up relative to mainstream expectations.

[@ioniosif6371]

breakthrough breakthrough breakthrough ...it is already broken , time to make it !

[@chris27gea58]

The primary functional concerns with batteries are: i) energy density, ii) peak and sustained charging and discharge rates (closely related to areal power density), iii) cycle life, iv) safety, v) cost vi) weight and vii) materials and charging efficiency. Solid state is only interesting to the extent that it allows some or all of these things to be achieved.

[@garymcaleer6112]

retrofitting is the key. I'll wait to see about the weight, thermal runaway, etc.

[@MegaChoy2]

You make interesting content, thanks!

[@RobertCrickmore]

Potential game changer. What is a manufacturer supposed to do with all these "game changers" coming in just a few years? It takes them several years to gear up for a new production run so they do that and in the middle of it this becomes commercially viable? Do they scrap the last 18 months of preparation and switch to this taking another year or so meaning no sales for that period? I know all these new batteries are really good news and I love it but what is a company supposed to do with it? How do they plan several years ahead?

[@rsmonge]

you just need to compare all of these game changing technologies. then figure out which one "changes the game changing game". and then you know you've really got something. :)

[@daveladd99]

When we start talking about a new anode technology, unless it’s a metal, or compound that is already a mainstream product, we should ask how hazardous the byproducts of mining/ refining, and manufacturing are. I have no expertise in these things, but I did do some exploring. It looks like there may be some relationship between Niobium and Tantalum. If Niobium were a side-stream (I don’t know the proper term) of the mining and extraction of Tantalum, it would be a good thing, I think. Might be worth looking into. Thanks!

[@PropanePete]

Sam (and others) keep saying that there is a rapid transition to EVs in Australia. Australia has over 21 million private cars on the roads. As of September 2024 there were 180,000 EVs in that number. That is only 0.81 percent of the fleet, less than one percent and that ratio of EV to ICE hasn’t changed in 24 months. The number of new EVs sold has increased but the number of new ICE vehicles has also increased but with more sales numbers than EVs sold so the ratio of EV to ICE has remained at below 1%. I’m not anti EV but these are the real numbers available publicly on the FCAI website (Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries) and the EVC (Electric Vehicle Council).

[@MartinMartinX]

"western" countries have no access to affordable EVs . That`s not the fault of EVs but policies in these countries. If people in west could buy good EV for 10k - 15k $ those numbers would look very differently .

[@Tom-dt4ic]

Of course with a device that can last several decades and is expensive, such as a car, the overall rate of adoption will be slower than it was with, say, a cell phone, or LP record player. This because people naturally want to postpone an expensive purchase as long as possible. I know I did. But the NEW sales rate of adoption of EV's in Australia is already more clearly exponential. And that's even before the approaching Chinese EV invasion. And if you count in the sale of PHEV, it's even more clearly exponential...approaching 50 percent for some car categories such as medium cars. And as Jim Farley, the CEO of Ford said, a PHEV buyer is a future BEV. So I think you’re experiencing the phenomenon that when you’re in the middle of an exponential change, it can look slower than it really is, even thought it’s very much an unstoppable force. Even with cell phones it took a few years, and it the middle of those years, the overall trend wasn’t so clear to some, especially those hanging onto their blackberries.

[@gatoleblanc8432]

Mining lithium is a water guzzling real toxic pollution metal, our ocean species will not survive due to all the lithium people and there phones, cars and all there electronics need. lithium cars are a nuclear disaster every year in the making, the mining of it and recycling of it are truly the worst pollution to the planets water, ocean and air due to the toxic chemicals used to mine it! It is way more expensive to recycle a lithium battery than to mine it, the pollution it causes to the planets ocean is not sustainable, its like a nuclear chernobl to the planets ocean every year.

[@dudleymills1427]

@@MartinMartinX Chinese cities restrict licensing of petrol and diesel fuelled cars. Chinese have less choice.

[@PropanePete]

@Tom-dt4ic Right up to the start of 2024, Sam always differentiated between BEVs and hybrids. He said hybrids were ICE cars and shunned them, wouldn't have a bar of them. But now because of the snail pace uptake of BEVs and the popularity of non-plug in hybrids in Australia they're now calling hybrids EVs. But they're ICE cars... So all these graphs and numbers are nonsense.

[@billlewandowski-e9y]

I assert battery charging speed to be equal to or even more important than battery range in usefulness, especially once charging stations are everywhere (as is the case in China). This could significantly lower the cost of EVs by reducing the size of batteries needed. If a person normally charges their vehicle in their garage overnight and drives 50 miles a day on average, or even if they park their vehicle on the street without charging, why is there a need for 400-500 miles of range of charge. Maybe a 250 mile range is fine for the occasional road trip even, as a 10 minute break every 4 hours of driving is healthy for you anyway. And if this smaller battery saves thousands of dollars and frees up a significant amount of interior or frunk space and lightens the vehicle (thus improving range and allowing the battery to be even smaller) then we got a win-win-win situation here folks! And for those folks who drive extra long distance regularly and insist on extra range, upsell them on that battery size, don't make everyone else drag along an extra 600 pounds of unnecessary electrons.

[@gatoleblanc8432]

The way fuel cell catalysts and membranes and there anode and cathodes becoming so efficient that one day a small coke bottle full of cheap green hydrogen will take your car 1000 miles, this is coming, and new solar cell making hydrogen coming to market that will run homes and cars, and cheap cost effective prices Why because solar cells have become more efficient making hydrogen than battery storage or just plan electricity, fuel cells are becoming truly remarkable engines for all transportation, secret of fuel cells is fuel cells actually clean the air as they run due to there electrolysis!, THERE COMING!

[@SAMGULSOM]

Ok ,why not develop a more efficient public transportation system ,so people doesn't need to use private cars, that even if they are electric,they need lots of room for parking, and more and more highways,that need lots of space,why not build ore subways, trams,electric buses, trails for bicycles

[@pcstar123]

Great, now add insert-able battery pack, only use the 2nd battery for the occasional long road trip!

[@JustPete65]

I'm waiting to retro fit a battery into my old cruiser....

[@ctuna2011]

what is the abundance of niobium ? How much do you need relative to the other substances used?

[@stefanweilhartner4415]

might be a show stopper to this game changer.

[@danncorbit3623]

16 million tons in Brazil. 1.6 million tons in Canada, diddly squat everywhere else.

[@rassabossa4554]

@@danncorbit3623 And Brasil is a BRICS country. Good for them.

[@E-BikingAdventures]

Do you need someone else to google for you?

[@ericbennik2071]

China just discovered a huge deposit apparently.

[@AHug-ff3xe]

Company called WA1 own Australia’s biggest deposit of Niobium, in Western Australia. They announced the find back in 2023. Their share price reflects as much

[@changeA-o4i]

Is there a game changing event every week?

[@PyroShields]

Only on Mondays.

[@camronrubin8599]

Wait until you see 2045

[@__patriot_1776]

😂😂😂😂

[@richardbartlett6932]

given the sheer amount of money and brain power being invested in this technology on a daily basis, I'd be disappointed if there wasn't

[@PyroShields]

@@richardbartlett6932 EV's are like computers in the 90's. Every 3 months they had a model with a faster processor.

[@Hybridog]

Everything I just read says this tech is for heavy duty industrial transport applications not cars. "Echion’s XNO is, for example, used in batteries for all-electric and hybrid trains, mining haul trucks, high-demand buses, and delivery vehicles." - from an article about Echion on the Electrive website. So far it does not sound like they are even looking at the consumer EV markets as the tech is not suited for that use.

[@Yippydog]

Nice to have quick charging on road trips. I think I am conflicted on whether I would prefer a just 250-500Kw charging as in today’s ability at 20-80% in 20 minutes and greater energy density so I can go longer distances and thus fewer charge sessions.

[@jeffhedrich3551]

Great. About 92% of the world’s production of niobium is in Brazil, a major BRICS partner. Next.

[@shaochan905]

Actually, the biggest concern isn't fast charging killing the batteries, it's constant cycling through the battery to power the home when connected. So this is good news and adds confidence to customers buying second hand EVs.

[@deanebrownfield6866]

Where are these batteries made?

[@ISuperTed]

This charges everything!

[@hardi.howdy.983]

But not the game. Yet!

[@FlintStone-c3s]

Great for cordless drills and mobile phones?

[@stvybaby]

Electrification is the future as battery technology marches forward. The internal combustion engine and burn something technology is obsolete just like steam engines.

[@jiggsborah7041]

After the dust settles steam trains and ice engines will be there to feed the world. Where are the electric tractors and bulldozers?

[@mattjohnson9753]

“It’s a game changer!”

[@jonno2000]

Aside from the better charging rates, does this new technology offer better safety from self ignition and fire?

[@joechan3388]

Those new wonder battery battery technologies always have a but at the end, and that but always makes those new wonder battery techniques never see day of light in mass markets.

[@benoeythomas3816]

Sir niobium is very rare earth mineral Cost of battery will go up very high Instead v can use 250 watt charger to charge lithium battery in 20 minutes

[@dondaniels127]

Sounds like this battery could make electric aircraft practical.

[@johnfrancis4401]

The research effort is automatically going to improve battery technology. This level of effort is new - perhaps only 20 years old. When batteries halve in price and double in energy density every 10 years it is inevitable petrol is dead.

[@The_muslims_Global]

Cool ❤❤❤

[@tonyhendry1953]

This would only be viable if you could mine niobium from the centre of the earth where it mainly resides, being extremely dense. 20ppm on the earth's surface makes it rather expensive to concentrate. So another academic nicety, with limited application in reality.

[@RWBHere]

Niobium a a relatively scarce element.

[@rubensribeiro9108]

Brazil is the largest producer with more than 90% of the global market.

[@smedleyfarnsworth263]

No mention of the vast amount of electricity required from the charger to do the job in 10 minutes, or how it is going to be delivered to the charger from the grid.

[@DeanGrossmith]

Thanks, but what is the energy density (Wh/kg) of this type of battery? There seems little info on this and some of older figures I saw suggest they are much lower.

[@MICHAELMEREDITHSR]

Ahoy! It's my first time to your channel E.V. There's a cantankerous codger by the name of Scott Kilmer, who has a KZbin channel involving automobiles. He's been Helpful with his knowledge & guidance. Could you or someone else who reads this comment, recommend he watches this video about new battery technologies. I understand Scott's current (no pun intended) view on battery powered vehicles, but maybe just maybe, feasibility of electric cars will come about with necessary infrastructure & technological advances brought forth. 🙏🦉

[@gpsfinancial6988]

The EV videos I've seen of his have been inaccurate.

[@stefanweilhartner4415]

1kg of niobium is over USD 300. this might be the show stopper to this game changer. is it a pure niobium anode? or a mixture with 90% graphite to give graphite or condensed carbon the special structure?

[@baxterbella5730]

The problem isn’t peak recharging speed as much as it is the infrastructure’s ability to provide the required power.

[@bobtuck5820]

Glad you said that hoe is the charging structure going to put say 50 Kw of power into a battery in 10 minutes. That's a chunky cable!

[@mariebaxter473]

@@bobtuck5820 No not really , That tech is already sorted , by trickle charging another battery over night in a so called super charger , then dumping from that into the car, to get you up to 80% then you trickle charge the rest at home . Super chargers are the price of a car , so not too many people getting one at home , So always going to get mugged at the forecourts as normal .

[@JonDecker]

To make a reasonable projection about charging, the standard charging rate for stations in the U.S. should be set at 240 kW for retail vehicles, with higher rates for commercial vehicles. If vehicles can operate with lithium iron phosphate (LFP) batteries and charge to 100% at incoming rates of 240 kW, then the battery size should be 100 kWh or less. This allows for faster charging, which is essential for Americans who need to cover long distances of 700+ miles (approximately 1,127+ kilometers) in a single day of driving; this is a typical journey for me. If we can implement 100 kWh battery powertrains in vehicles designed for optimal aerodynamics and efficiency, achieving power efficiency ratings of 3.5 miles per kWh or better, and the U.S. increases its charging stations to a ratio of 10 units for every existing gas pump, then electric vehicles (EVs) will be on par with current gasoline options. This is the current challenge (electric pun intended) facing the U.S. market.

[@jondanmork]

I did test drive x9 and ev9. I did like ev9 more than only cons for xpeng was the good price the seats where uncomfortable and there was no head up display

[@mikewallace8087]

Niobium is a strategic element for the U.S. Government . There is none in the U.S.. It is somewhat expensive . More thought is required if this will go anywhere in the U.S. market.

[@bobdeverell]

Today world niobium market price is cheaper than lithium. But limited market with limited mining today. Difficult to predict future prices once demand ramps up and prospecting new sites kick in.

[@gregarnot5066]

Is there patent protection? Or is the technology available for anyone?

[@carltonlane8931]

Electric cars are here,why do people be so negative,the world needs this technology,ice powered vehicles will be around for a while yet,but ice powered vehicles are running out of oil,because the world reserves are depleting,electric vehicles slows down oil use,lasts longer,gives us longer to find another energy source,I enjoy your videos,thanks.

[@loginoff2007]

it does not matter how fast you can chard the battery. There is a constraint (a bottleneck) in serving power network. in short, it is hard to deliver a required amount of power to a dedicated location for those ultra fast charging devices. this new fast charging battery will stay in labs for another 10+ years. It is like buying 12K tv now and wait until Internet speed will allow you to watch true 12k quality footage in the future.

[@tombrandt8137]

I niobium rare, difficult to source, toxic or a problem to produce? Thx Sam

[@hoo_maan8735]

does it scale?

[@petersz98]

Yawn! Another miracle battery that will probably never make it out of the lab.

[@kevinW826]

Yep. Sam is soon to have the title of click bait king.

[@andrewsaint6581]

Like the hydrogen guys.

[@Acemeistre]

It already has made it out the lab, if you'd watched the video 🤦

[@kevinW826]

@ on the streets in public. Labs can be falsified and doctored.

[@N1rOx]

​@@AcemeistreThey never watch the video. It's just straight to the comment section to spread my negativity. Fully forgetting that almost all successful chemistries began in a lab.

[@mackmonkey1]

Game changeaaaa...!!!!!!

[@wlhgmk]

How much does it cost and can the grid handle the huge amperage that this would need for charging.

[@z.Sh4ped.Po0Tin]

Niobium is a bit less abundant than lithium on Earth and about 4 times more expensive than lithium (40$ per kg) so it depends if only small amount is needed as additive to get those properties or a lot of it. Any estimates on availablility (say it will be on market in 1year or 10 years and estimates on cost of a working battery?)

[@malfunction8165]

Oh, so the environment still gets devastated extracting the materials, but at least the children will still have a job.

[@thewolf9851]

Does it work the same way if it's cold outside?

[@chilllytube]

A few issues here. The battery takes 10 minutes to charge to 100%. OK, but how much capacity does that have? If it is 10KWh that's not that impressive, if it's 100KWh that's much more interesting. The one thing that these fast charge rates seem to ignore, is that the power supply needs to be high capacity. If you add 75KWh of charge to a battery in 10 minutes you will need a charge station that actually delivers about 500KW for that 10 minutes (allowing for some losses). There are many in the UK that advertise 350KW chargers, my car can accept 350KW according to Hyundai, but I have never seen that delivered. Indeed even on a thermally conditioned battery pack I rarely see more than about 230KW. That would more than double your 10 minutes charging time. Shoving 500KW (half a megawatt!!!!) down a cable for 10 minutes reliably many times a day, day after day is quite a feat. I love my Leccy car. It would be good to charge a bit quicker, but I'm not sure it's going to happen very quickly.

[@larsesilen]

Chargingg stations running on MW levels? Is the infrastructure there yet?

[@Aggie4life77]

So you may see this in cars in 5 years maybe?!?

[@kevinW826]

Nope, not in our lifetime. Sam will still be putting out videos in five years saying, “Game Changer!” “Revolutionary!” And all of the other BS lines he puts out.

[@Aggie4life77]

@ 🤣🤣🤣

[@andrewsaint6581]

​@@kevinW826yeah, like button phones are still here. We take films to the chemist to be developed. Rockets can't be reused. Kodak invented the digital camera but dismissed it. You know that. Try harder.

[@jameshack485]

No mention of price which is the difference between a discovery and commercialization

[@jerrylewis4456]

Yo6ur talking about a Toyota, can you believe it ?

[@hardi.howdy.983]

He pivots like that 😁

[@larrymeyer2917]

Is Lithium phosphate not only the cheapest but requires the least amount to RE minerals? 90% of the BEV users do not require rapid charge, so I’m inclined to focus on 90% of the needs, 150km per day maybe 250Km max, home charging from Solar back supply, least RE materials input. Have a model that has a lot more options but first deliver a fit for customer needs BEV. And maybe there will be sufficient demand to stay in business.

[@barriegregory6606]

Someone tell me how the charge cables at charge stations will be able to handle 4 times the current flow unless the voltage is increased to 1000 volts which would be fun on wet days. What is this new technology?

[@SteveBueche1027]

What stops the progressive degradation of the battery at faster rates? I understand them going after the fast charging but, most EV owners I know plan around it and get most from the house at what we might call trickle speeds.

[@gatoleblanc8432]

The way fuel cell catalysts and membranes and there anode and cathodes becoming so efficient that one day a small coke bottle full of cheap green hydrogen will take your car 1000 miles, this is coming, and new solar cell making hydrogen coming to market that will run homes and cars, and cheap cost effective prices Why because solar cells have become more efficient making hydrogen than battery storage or just plan electricity, fuel cells are becoming truly remarkable engines for all transportation, secret of fuel cells is fuel cells actually clean the air as they run due to there electrolysis!

[@larryb9758]

How available is niobium

[@stoveguy2133]

How much $$ to charge battery at station? 4x vs home rate?

[@Myrslokstok]

That battery 🔋 can do anything except leave the lab!

[@djr15573]

Another Monday, another battery breakthrough. Honestly, why is research still ongoing? So many game changing batteries already out there.

[@andrewsaint6581]

It's because nothing game changing is happening with ice They've had over 120 years and run out of ideas

[@punditgi]

Sam, you have a great channel but too often you sound like you are reading verbatim from some company's marketing material or the summary section of a research paper or perhaps a news article. Not the best look, mate. Cheers! 😊

[@hardi.howdy.983]

Correct. He just reads articles.

[@barrymayson2492]

This obviously works but at what cost? It is a relatively rare mineral and in order to be useful must be a relatively inexpensive which it is not. But it does show what is possible if we can find something relatively cheap and plentiful. So yes more research needed as i don't think this is the answer to the problem.

[@teresashinkansen9402]

I would be more interested in a "km per minute" charging rate than simply percent.

[@d1skel452]

WoW let’s go WA1

[@ric2play]

At what cost to the environment?

[@JasperMulder100]

What national electricity grid can support that kind of charging? Cycle life is nice ... but cells must be lighter.

[@calorus]

So that was the last flaw. 150 mile range is plenty if I can recharge in 10 minutes on the few occasions you need to go further,

[@JohnSmith-ux3tt]

Great. So every EV on the road now and available for the next year, is already obsolete. Wallet, back in pocket.

[@andrewsaint6581]

Yes,and all existing ice cars. Keep your cash safe for the time being

[@PyroShields]

John best thing to do is lease an EV because the technology is rapidly changing.

[@jamesvandamme7786]

People buy this year's phones even though next year's phones will be better and cheaper. Go figure.

[@E-BikingAdventures]

Todays video - Unrealised game changer battery tech #862.

[@michaelketley1252]

I don’t think this type of battery will see large scale use because it will be too expensive.