Electronic 453 detroit diesel kills turbo and maxes the dyno!!!!

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[@iBackshift]

As the Detroit Turns - EP 2, "The Jade Grenade".

[@Ol2Stroker]

I legit almost used the "as the world turns" opening theme 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@joshjones3408]

😆😆 I just want to thank Detroit for being my friend...take ya around the world an back again.... Golden Detroit.. 😆

[@prevost8686]

I’m surprised that the local Fire Department didn’t think the roof was on fire 😂.

[@choochoothelilsavage9573]

I just want to know why 3000 rpm sounds like 9000 rpm?

[@turkeyboyjh1]

@@choochoothelilsavage9573it’s a 2 stroke diesel so it messes with your ears, 1 firing event per rotating opposed to 1 firing per 2 rotation makes it sound like more rpm than it is

[@Ol2Stroker]

Our boy Ronnie from the FD was on site to cancel any dispatch 🤣🤣

[@volvodoc01]

@@choochoothelilsavage9573 You think this screams, you should hear a Detroit 16V92 generator fire up! 1200RPM sounds like 4,000

[@elyon563]

Worked in a Detroit shop ‘76 to ‘83 during HS and College. Saw and heard every one of these beasts on dyno. Screamin’ Jimmys!

[@prevost8686]

My father-in-law was a diesel mechanic beginning in the Army In Vietnam and will finally retire this June. He’s deaf in one ear and can’t hear out of the other. I’d be afraid to guess at how many Detroits he had his head next to while it was screaming for all it was worth. He worked on the huge mining trucks that had monster two strokes in them for years before they finally transitioned 4-stroke diesels. He’d come home from work so black from working on them that he couldn’t scrub it off with Lava soap.

[@user-sp8xw9dt9i]

​@@prevost8686насколько огромными? С чем сравнить можно, ближайшие аналоги?

[@ricksmith4736]

@@prevost8686 My friend took diesel mechanics in college and then worked for a local shop,,, He moved 150 miles away and went to work for a Cummins Diesel shop so he would never have to work on a leaky, sleazy, oil leaking Detroit again ( his words).... Funny thing is occasionally the Cummins shop got in a Detroit and he had to work on it as he was the only Detroit trained mechanic there....

[@dimedriver]

​@@user-sp8xw9dt9i 212cubic inch or 3.474liters. model 453 %There should be identical engines in russia as engines and manufacturing tooling was given to the russians for the lend lease act during WW2.

[@nabyard]

​@user-sp8xw9dt9i similar to a built cummins 4 cylinder or a Mercedes and Volvo 4 cylinder diesel. This is just a 2 stroke instead of 4 stroke. These things were used in the states everywhere in multiple cylinder numbers, and displacement. If you are able to, Google a Detroit 453

[@78katz]

Old smoky needs an intercooler.

[@huckbeduck]

Make that air dense! More molecules of air to match the fuel molecules.

[@robertmoody2221]

That’s awesome that thing showed that dyno who’s boss .

[@mjlmbl]

That thing sounds sweet at 3000+ rpms. What a treat indeed.

[@rogerz3417]

Love the sound of a 53

[@prevost8686]

I think my favorite is the 6-71 but they all sound great for a while.

[@EricaMTB]

To get power out of a turbo Detroit, advance the cam timing to close exhaust valves sooner and increase duration of exhaust valve closed while intake port open. Allows increased cylinder boost for a given wastegate setting.

[@TheTraveler432]

Awesome to see all these guys geeking out on this Detroit! I'm a truck driver for thirty years and dream of this! Awesome! Thanks for the great content!

[@robdixon945]

Jealous AF Wayne, that was a blast, thanks for the show guys 🍻

[@hoost3056]

Compound that mini scooter!!!

[@oldcivicjoe9069]

I want to see this with a really nice air to water intercooler and a slightly bigger turbo

[@ericbrumley9026]

I was typing this comment asking why you didn’t have that hateful little Swiss girl clip when it was rolling coal on the roof BUT THEN THERE SHE WAS!!! I died!

[@Ol2Stroker]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Definitelynotyou90]

I was reading this right when she appeared

[@Freeman-eo2lx]

I'm waiting for her

[@wes11bravo]

You have stolen my dreams

[@thegdfp6447]

The mushroom munchers are so triggered by a little girl's comment from 4 years ago. Hilarious. I'd be curious to see EGT, IAT with no intercooler, boost vs backpressure, turbine speed

[@TheMrDarius]

The old two stroke detroits were sure something special and magical.

[@nerd1000ify]

Indeed. There's no better device for turning diesel fuel into noise and smoke.

[@TheMrDarius]

@@nerd1000ify yeah that’s basically the outcome of diesels, thank you for the observation. Don’t know what I’d do without it.

[@nerd1000ify]

@@TheMrDarius Seems my joke went over your head.

[@misters2837]

@@nerd1000ify You have to say it like this.... Stock Detroit 2-Cycle: "Easiest Way to turn Diesel into Smoke and Noise without the Side Effect of Torque and Horsepower!" - Now when you turn them up...They make MORE noise and Smoke!

[@bladenrexroth2555]

Love to see some 6v53T and 8v53T content Wayno!

[@robc2821]

TOTALLY WILD WHAT A GREAT SOUND DUDE !!!

[@joshruka4650]

That sheet metal rocker box takes the cake. You need those on your merch store for 53 n 71s!

[@bjmoor785]

That was absolutely 💯 sick Wayne love listening to Detroit sing 👌👍 !!!!

[@richardhoneywell7411]

Great video Wayne really enjoyed watching you put this 453t though it passes. Mech and electronically bring the dyno to it knees. Thanks for sharing stay safe Wayne and Crew.

[@2StrokeDriptroit]

YEE!! I am SUBSCRIBED!! I was the guy in the TiLite wheelchair last year at the truck show (and forgot to pay for the Ol’ 2 Stroker hat, and made a mad dash back to pay ya! (Embarrassed! 😮😅) Rick Delair! So happy to be subbed! That 4-53 is a BEAST!! 😊 OOF-DA-MAY, Son of a Diddly, that is one MEAN MUTHA!! Looking forward to the truck show this year, will wear that hat and my Detroit shirt! I want to bring my 2-71 and my super rare Lawn-Boy “Loafer” tractor and mower to the Schaghticoke fair this year! Has TWO 2 strokes on it! A real treat! Gotta get the rare valveless 4-51 choochin’ too! She’s a PEACH! Glad to be able to comment!! See ya at the truck show! 👍🏻👌😋😋

[@Ol2Stroker]

Hell yea!! 🤟🤟

[@2StrokeDriptroit]

@@Ol2Stroker THANKS MAN!! You rock!! Love your channel! Up there with Vice Grip Garage and Diesel Creek, and never forget the wacky funny as hell Zip ties and bias plies! 😆😆😆👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 HEYLL YEAH!!! 👍🏻

[@timothymilam732]

Any thoughts on increasing the size of the exhaust here?Installing a intercooler would be a big help on entering air temperature as we all know, because cooler entering air temperature increases performance greatly. Y'all are all smarter than I am by a long shot, and trying to experiment like ya'll are I'd think that would have been designed into the intake system to get optimum performance results. So I'm slightly confused here about getting true results from all your efforts. Either way very interesting, and I am surprised that the hot side housing wasn't glowing red on several of the extended pulls on the little beast.

[@GarethDavidWebb]

best episode! Great work

[@roguedalek900]

My only thought? Getting HP is always easy. It's walking that line between HP *and* durability. What good is it if it only lasts 3 months on the road ?

[@Farmer_1776]

Mighty little one there!

[@snoman003]

The little engine that could. Nice angry little 2 stroke.

[@Steve-O-78]

Awesome video Wayne!! It would be neat to see the rooftop exhaust side by side with the dynos computer monitor

[@100pyatt]

Get the fuel/air corrected and that little guy will double the power output adding allot more AIR 💪🔥

[@kg4muc]

The first DDEC 4-53! And it performs too

[@castirondude]

I read on the boat forums that the Detroit 2-cycles last well up to about 0.7 HP/ci but lifetime drops off beyond that. Anything approaching or exceeding 1HP/ci will reduce life severely. They were talking about the 71 series I think, not sure how the 53's compare to that. They may be more stout. The 4-53 is actually a very big heavy engine for such a small displacement.

[@rolandtamaccio3285]

It's always a good idea to check the torque sensor once or twice a session . Just a stack of weights hanging off a 3 foot bar ,, ( or any known length ) attached to the absorber ,,, !

[@75LS1Vega]

We calibrated the dyno the day before we dyno'd the engine. Building temp does affect the torque reading a bit, but we weren't splitting hairs here!

[@rolandtamaccio3285]

@75LS1Vega ,,, 10-4 ,,, are those stock valve springs ,,, ?

[@danw1955]

That mouse motor would be fun to have in a fairly light 3/4 T. pickup and a 5 & 2 trans! Truly amazing how much torque they'll produce, especially on a DDEC setup!😲😄👍👍👍 Cool stuff Wayne!

[@tdotw77]

Detroit garage has one in his f250(09?) with a 5r110. Everything in cab works, gauges and all. It's really sweet especially replacing the 6.4 that came in it. I love Ford's but that 6.4 is scary to have. I'd take a 6.0 over 6.4 anyway unless I had the $10k saved up to replace it when it goes.

[@tdotw77]

Also, he uses WVO to power it most of the time so fuel cost is next to none. It's water\meth injected too, keeps pistons clean & carbon caking to nearly nothing at all. Like constantly steam cleaning the cylinder. Give him a follow if your interested 👍🏻👌🏻🛠️🔧

[@douglasmayherjr.5733]

Awesome Dyno Test. Did Detroit ever make a DDEC 53 series or is this another first. Thanks for the Videos Wayne. That definitely needs to find its way into a pickup or the Lull.

[@carlwilliams1570]

I remember Silver Series 453T’s were 185 hp. You got some good power out of that 453.

[@Ol2Stroker]

Lots more in it too. 💪💪

[@vica153]

Time for an intercooler? Better spool, more power.

[@tommyhall2768]

Hellow Wayne good luck buddy

[@thef1sh17]

Needs more air!

[@detroitgarage9430]

Sure love those DDEC injectors.:)

[@speedmachine69]

The black smoke that creeps out by the Y split..... that's some Lord of the Rings shizzle right there.... Unkle Wayne is secretly Gandalf....

[@ACatKrom]

Double the length of the torque arm on the dyno, you'll be able to measure twice the tq with the same load sensor. (you'll have to make an adjustment in the software, or remember to double the hp/tq displayed on the screen)

[@joesutherland225]

Would love that motor for my 36 ft boat .perfect.

[@shannonschneider8413]

Oh jeeebus,DDEC 4 and a sweet asf 453 engine,yes please

[@rondye9398]

I think you need to twist the smoke screw in a bit! A local excavator installed one of these 'pavement oilers' into his his brand new 1980 Ford F-350. Did not understand it.

[@78trav]

This was great! I'm surprised that the FD didn't show up😂

[@ricksmith4736]

I was looking for Greta to show up...

[@Farmer_1776]

You need a sequential turbo setup. There is enough fuel for way more! Part even more interesting!

[@noahpike8274]

Lots of fuel wasted

[@turkeyboyjh1]

@@noahpike8274it’s a Detroit so no variable injection timing it’s going to smoke no matter what at those power levels, these engines can only be really optimized at one rpm and power range so on a high out build you crank the fuel and try to get as much air as possible as fast as possible in that motor

[@noahpike8274]

@@turkeyboyjh1 amazing. I just learned something new 🤙

[@alvan3592]

I need that motor in Oliver 1950!

[@Nobluffbuff]

Jimminy MF'n Crickets!! 😳

[@rogerz3417]

Talk about rolling coal!!

[@Sawmods]

You need a t4 s400 on that lil monster

[@davidstevens5213]

I love these engines but man the unburned fuel.

[@Freeman-eo2lx]

A Detroit like that sitting in the corner of my garage complete minus all them goodies thst go around it missing the exhaust manifold turbo starter pipes ect basically i have a big green boat anchor

[@Freeman-eo2lx]

Mine might be the older model not electric idk

[@Freeman-eo2lx]

Valve cover on the one I have is more rounded looking

[@phatboizbackyardkustomz9006]

@@Freeman-eo2lx None of those are electronic that I know of... other than this one. These fellas' are making them electronic with the later model stuff. They are making history. So the one you have can be made into the same thing just like other performance stuff $$$

[@Freeman-eo2lx]

@@phatboizbackyardkustomz9006 I feel dumb hey what is that ol 453 worth

[@jasonbirch1182]

I guess compounding through the blower just increases heat/IAT? Is this how the turbo motors are setup stock?

[@justinweaver8107]

Have a good 1 wayne

[@joshjones3408]

That little sumbit.h would be a handful if come apart...

[@DanEBoyd]

LMAO @ that building rolling coal!!!

[@joshjones3408]

An if yall like it then i love it 😆

[@Huskiedrive361]

Pretty impressive numbers from a 4 banger! Always a lot of BS when truckers start jawin' about HP but dyno numbers don't lie!

[@elesjuan]

Hey Wayno. What's the idea of that bypass pipe on the drinkers side of the motor? Is that to get around the supercharger inlet restriction?

[@princepsdrewski2802]

I think they said in the last video thats what it was

[@johnpaulsnow1126]

Wayne I have a 91 8v92 in my Newell the sticker says 550hp it will make 28psi of boost my question is what software and cord are you using to talk to the ecm id love to convert to a ddec3 as I have a ddec2

[@wazza33racer]

where is your block of wood? Come on, be prepared. Once your compressor blades are bent, the compressor wont be balanced anymore ;) The piping from the turbo to the engine has absurd bends in it, and no inter cooler. Boost is decent. Some refinements needed to get true potential. Impressive torque at low rpm already though )). 30 psi of boost is going to make a lot of charge air temperature, and that is costing performance. Thanks for the video!

[@joemaser9122]

Who forgot the Nitrous bottle

[@Ol2Stroker]

Friggen Mikey!

[@richardschafer1911]

This has to be absolutely has to ne the most dangerous engine dyno i have rver had the opportunity to look at one guy standing at the d9or taking pics waiting for the turbine wheel to fly straight through his skull and the guy running the dyno just sitting there waiting for the rods to screem in multitude of directions hopeing he will survive let alone the exhaust fumes filling the workers around the shop full of the good old black lung id love to work here man twelve months max id either walk out with a pocket full of cash and a new speed shop how do i get a application in.

[@gordoncorey8023]

Yeah that's rolling some coal

[@Whance_Chilkins]

Workin on junk. Making it sing!

[@colestowing8695]

But, but, but... Gale Banks says you don't need smoke to make power😂 (all kidding aside, i love Gale)

[@Ol2Stroker]

Lol he's right!

[@dubiousf00d]

Music to my half deaf ears!😂

[@msnapp169]

Yall are crazy doing that right next it and around I'd it blows anything out yall are in the line of fire....build a room around that

[@CmBc.]

Give more air, less coal!

[@rolandtamaccio3285]

,,, oh hell , just go common rail ,,, !

[@domnicclassi3823]

She needs way more airflow. Bigger turbo!

[@sporttruck5103]

She definitely needs an inter/aftercooler, which increases the air density, which in turn means more oxygen to burn. A higher boost pressure or the air volume is not beneficial on its own if the boosted air is hot, in which case the air density is low and the oxygen amount is low.

[@Robwelds]

Fucking sweet!!!!!

[@fasteddiesgarage5000]

All that black smoke is not good it means very high EGTs

[@Patrick-xd8jv]

NOS time

[@SPEEDY-FABSHACK]

When do we see a Wayno built 12V 92 with 4 turbos?

[@phatboizbackyardkustomz9006]

or a 16v92 might be easier due to the last gen stuff was all 92 series.

[@SPEEDY-FABSHACK]

@@phatboizbackyardkustomz9006 didn’t Deboss garage kill them all?!

[@user-ns2gq1rs7e]

Did NO one notice that they opened the should closed off side for more intake and the other side still has the blower the thing had raw power with the ddec 4 system good stuff I'm doing the same thing aswell taking md a while to get the parts

[@blattferenc9647]

Why no itercooler?

[@katmandu8208]

👍🏻🍻

[@TheYamaha37]

Bro wwnt from 185hp and 3 something on torque. Cut the restriction on the turbo and it made 277hp and 597lbft yet they say nothing changed. Are they blind?all the black smoke is unburnt fuel. Why not clean it up so it will run better make better numbers. Blowing black smoke is cool but hurts power in everyway

[@rogerz3417]

Wayne what is this being built for?

[@75LS1Vega]

It's my dyno mule engine. Has no application except to flog the daylights out of it on the dyno.

[@maxp9046]

I swear 10% of the fuel burned in that engine just goes to noise

[@philipmail499]

Great content

[@L.A.Concrete]

Is that a variable geometry turbo?

[@Ol2Stroker]

It is not.

[@minibikemadman]

needs some nos!

[@f.chrisliuzzo7889]

What is Greta gonna do when she finds out about the cow farts!!??😂

[@nerd1000ify]

Feed the cows some seaweed. Drops their methane production a whole bunch. And don't eat beef every day.

[@chasewebber4316]

Lots of coal. Need more air

[@conleycrew76]

What’s a rev limiter? 😂

[@Ol2Stroker]

Not a clue

[@Hitman-ds1ei]

You guys should know better than to be doing this without a CO2 fire extinguisher handy !

[@croaker4163]

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[@jameshaskell6572]

Is that dyno for lawn mower engines or generators or something. What the hell man fucking Nissan Altimas make this much power off the lot and this dyno can’t take it. I really wanted to see what it made.i feel like why the hell do they have a dyno that they put diesels on that can’t read over 600ft pounds.

[@75LS1Vega]

In due time, dyno upgrade is in the works

[@phatboizbackyardkustomz9006]

Take it to Steve morris's shop to dyno the big stuff.

[@jaguarracingus]

way too much fuel.

[@giemli1]

But, what about safety? If that engine blows up, the room will be full of flying metal scraps, i can't like to see people around the engine when running on max power, come on Guys, it is indeed great, but think safety in to it. Just a good advise.

[@chuckvanvleet1268]

Sometimes you have to take a chance to have fun. The biggest thing is just having a piece of wood to cover the turbo when it runs away instead of a lid to a pickle jar

[@bobbywright2100]

There’s no way I would take anything to this guy and let him Dyno it. He doesn’t know what he’s doing. How much load did he put on that engine. In other words what was the dyno set at to get that number? If it was set wrong it could have gave bad numbers meaning higher numbers than what the engine really did.

[@ACatKrom]

do you have any idea how a dyno works?? nothing you said was close to correct, or even made any sense, there is no such thing as "what was the dyno set at" A dyno measures the amount of torque required to hold the engine at a rpm. This one uses a water brake to hold the engine to the desired rpm.

[@bobbywright2100]

@@ACatKrom yes I do and you can change flow rates and rpm rates on that dyno which will let the engine rev at different rpm’s per second. Different rpm rates will give different results.You can actually make higher numbers or lower numbers depending on where it is set at. Next to my shop is a friend who has a dyno that is set up similar to I guess the one there. And yes sir it’s was explained to me about flow rates and rpm rates with such Dyno’s. And another thing water brake dynos are known for giving higher numbers because there not as precise as EC DYNO’S which my neighbor also has. Now did I maybe word it wrong for you ,,,, possibly but I know about how they work and I know you can load a dyno to get higher numbers than what an engine actually produces.

[@ACatKrom]

@@bobbywright2100 Still mostly wrong, coming from a guy who went to engineering school, ran the dyno there for FSAE, and has built/dyno tuned several high performance 2 stroke sleds. ramp rate may have a tiny effect on the number, but only if you do something stupid. You are being fed a line of BS about eddy current vs water brake. The type of brake has nothing to do with recording the data, if the brake can hold the engine to the rpm you are trying to measure the data will be the same no matter what kind you use. The ONLY WAY to make a dyno read higher than actual is for the operator to purposely input incorrect data, period.

[@mikehunt-ew3pm]

need a life is tough but tougher when your stupid hoodie!!!

[@choochoothelilsavage9573]

220 221. What😮it takes to