How To DUPLICATE Any High Security Key!

[@sugarfish]

Can't tell you enough how much I appreciate a how-to video that doesn't have voice over, a talking head, or a babbling host when all I want is "just show me how to do it."

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you very much for putting together this video! This will come in very handy in the future. Looking forward to the next video! Always a thumbs up from me!

[@electronicsNmore]

Glad you enjoyed it Todd! Keep up the great work with your testing videos! You're saving people a lot of money.

[@philod902]

Really cool....when my work release is up next year, I'll be putting this info to good use!

[@andythurlow1614]

Wow, you learn something new every day. I sooooo thought that mould would have melted or distorted

[@electronicsNmore]

Hi Andy. The silicone can tolerate high temps. Thanks for watching! Be sure to watch my "Locksmith" video playlist below and share. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHvQhqGFZr2Mhc0

[@budlight9308]

i made my mold last night, im waiting on it to cure, thank you for great tips!!

[@pouncerminned863]

how did it turn out?

[@andrewbehr5580]

Thank you for this video! The one thing I understand is what you meant by preheating the mold to 450 - 475 degrees when using the first method. Do I put the mold in the oven and then put it back int the medicine bottle when it’s heated before pouring the metal? Could you please clarify?

[@electronicsNmore]

If preheated for a better flow, you need to heat the mold. Polypropylene medicine bottles cannot tolerate 450F, so I suggest you use a small aluminum bottle.

[@andrewbehr5580]

​@@electronicsNmore Thanks. I noticed that you said to preheat the mold, but then it was placed back into the room temp medicine bottle when you poured the metal. Will that work, or will it melt the plastic if I place just the warm silicon mold into the bottle? It's a bit unclear how the warm mold gets placed back into the bottle before pouring the metal.

[@phoenixsoles254]

What is the exact epoxy you used and where can i find it?

[@medvidekkrupicka1404]

What kind of microphone you use for these silent recordings?

[@electronicsNmore]

The one in my Nikon camera.

[@frankmatthews65]

Hello, how much flux do you add to the melted tin?

[@jjella77]

Good work anyhow could you tell me how much flux did you use ? Like a teaspoon or two three drops ? Please let me know thanks

[@electronicsNmore]

Just a sprinkle, 1/8 teaspoon.

[@jjella77]

Thinks you kind sir your the mega man

[@abcstardust]

Thank you so much for this great video

[@petersmith2786]

Very interesting technique. Could you please tell me why you inserted a wire into the Epoxy filling? I couldn't figure out its purpose.

[@electronicsNmore]

For reinforcement purposes. In case the key breaks, you could still pull it out of the keyway. Be sure to watch my "Locksmith & Bypass Tools" video playlist below and most importantly share. Thanks for watching! kzbin.info/aero/PLQ6IOhUBblU1vY1JwQCHE-4_VscJ0XTVv

[@petersmith2786]

@@electronicsNmore Good idea. Thanks for the reply.

[@brandanroberts4366]

so a couple things, when I poured the tin the first time with the sander the tin splashed everywhere. I tried something with less vibration and the mold did not fill completely it went all the way to the bottom but did not fill the half with the teeth. any tips? also I got flux from Home Depot, just the flux paste

[@lanakim1762]

Wow, impressed! What kind of metal did you use? The link that you shared is not available anymore. It would be great if you share with me the name or another link. Thank you 😊

[@RD-cw9ik]

Were you using the thin metal just like rebar to concrete.

[@electronicsNmore]

For the epoxy key? Yes. Thanks for watching! Please share. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHvQhqGFZr2Mhc0

[@phoenixsoles254]

in method 2, what is the little metal part you put in? What does it do, and is it essential?

[@lycanlycans7548]

The key becomes more stable!

[@sergiorossi3803]

Can you tell me where to buy the base .??.Tanks

[@GnarledSage]

Isn’t the silicone and the other materials way more expensive than just copying the key?

[@electronicsNmore]

Certain keys you are not allowed to copy

[@GnarledSage]

I see. Then I guess that makes this method the only choice, no matter how expensive.

[@GMCLabs]

We deal with high security locks that have "do not duplicate" on them. One of my co-workers said he could get them copied, you just have to sign some waiver. I always figured you could just cover up the part of the key with silicon, epoxy or even a 3d printed piece of plastic to hide the "do not duplicate" and just make it look like a grip or decoration for the key. if you can get a blank you could also file it yourself. Still cool demo!

[@electronicsNmore]

Thanks for watching Gary! Be sure to look over my extensive video playlists below and most importantly share my channel with others. kzbin.infoplaylists

[@bigbulldozer9708]

Some keys (like the one in this video) need special blanks that are very hard to come by if you are not the manufacturer

[@chiragmakwana6567]

Always love your content!!! Keep up☺️☺️☺️💐👌👌💐

[@electronicsNmore]

Thanks Chirag! Be sure to rate thumbs up and most importantly share my channel with many others.

[@raphaelsanchez4797]

Very smart! Well done!!! I enjoyed it immensely. Thank you.

[@electronicsNmore]

Glad you enjoyed it Raphael! Be sure to check out my Lock related video playlist below, and most importantly share. Thank you! kzbin.info/aero/PLQ6IOhUBblU1vY1JwQCHE-4_VscJ0XTVv

[@AThreeDogNight]

A great idea, thanks for sharing all of your work.

[@electronicsNmore]

Thanks, and you're welcome!

[@Peppymoke]

Hey. Thanks for the great content!! Do you recommend this copying method or the one you've uploadeded 4 years ago? Or does it depend on which key you want to copy? Please clarify ☝️❤️👍

[@electronicsNmore]

Both are good.

[@Peppymoke]

@@electronicsNmore two more questions if it's ok. 1. I do not understand the part with preheating the mold to 230 deg celsius?? Can the container withstand such temperatures? am I getting sth wrong here? 2. How do you messure howmuch tin you need? weigh the originalkey plus a bit? thanks in advance!

[@Peppymoke]

@@electronicsNmore Hey. could you please clarify. Is the plastic of the pill container capable of withstanding the 230 Deg Fahrenheit? What could I use instead?

[@OldenTreeCult]

@@Peppymoke I don't think you use the container. You take the mold out and the mold can maybe withstand the temperatures

[@OldenTreeCult]

@@Peppymoke copy 3xactly what he did.

[@ΟδυσσέαςΑλεξάνδρου]

Man... best of the best!! Realy good video.

[@electronicsNmore]

Glad you enjoyed it! Be sure to shave the video link. Thanks

[@rodneybrand8521]

Wow...never would have thought of that...i always just have a new key cut..but this was good to know and see..thanks again.. Keep up with you're videos Cheers 🍻🍻🍻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@electronicsNmore]

Please share Rodney. Thanks for watching!

[@pawelubzbinkcky7922]

Hi, does it works for mul T keys?

[@arthurdent8091]

Hi, I have been going nuts trying to find the casting "molds" as seen on other videos. Your first method is one way around it, it does require more silicone but.....

[@electronicsNmore]

Hi Tom. The silicone works great, and as long as you don't melt down a metal that's really high in temp, you can re-use the mold. Thanks for watching! Check out my "Locksmith & Bypass Tools" video playlist below and share. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHvQhqGFZr2Mhc0

[@arthurdent8091]

Hi it's me again. I like your methods as I've said, but I'm curious; have you been able to find the "molds" as seen on other videos? I have been looking on-and-off for about two weeks and I cannot find any. I find after diligent searching, metals, molding silicone trays for making premeasured amounts of metal, ladles, etc but NOT the molds. If you have encountered any in your travels I would like to know where. Thanks.

[@Radi0he4d1]

I've only seen them on locksmith websites

[@Peppymoke]

@@electronicsNmore hey. I see another one is heaving this problem.... Would you please help us out? Would be great!

[@kennethlemelle3530]

I have a Miller xmt304 that is currently not working you are pretty knowledgeable on electronics do you work on equipment?

[@electronicsNmore]

That's an expensive unit. I don't do any repair work for viewers, I only supply helpful videos. Thanks for watching!

[@andrewbehr5580]

Can you please tell me why you cut a hole in the bottom of the medicine bottle and covered it with tape before pouring the silicon mixture, what is the purpose of doing both? Thank you!

[@electronicsNmore]

The hole allows me to easily push out the mold with my finger.

[@andrewbehr5580]

@@electronicsNmore Thank you so much! I also meant to ask, is it necessary to have the belt sander when pouring the metal?

[@sebastiannielsen]

The law you are referring to, actually only applies to licensed locksmiths, and not everyone (California BPC § 6980.54). Its not illegal to copy a "Do not duplicate" key yourself, for example in a unmanned key kiosk or similiar, and therefore, not illegal to also copy it via the methods in the video. Same applies to patent keys, copying a patent key for private use is not illegal, but copying it for someone else or for business use, is illegal. HOWEVER, its ALWAYS illegal to use a key you are not allowed to use, regardless of if its a copied key or not. So its not the copying itself that is illegal, but the use of a key that you are not allowed to use. So obviously, if you have copied a key, then returned the original or copy, you are obviously not allowed to use the other key. Also copying a key, even with no intention to use it, like "a cool key to put into a frame", could become a "planning" crime (you planned to do a break-in). Such a crime could however be averted by making the copy in a material that is unsuitable for key, like soft tin or similiar. But same applies if the access period, communicated in writing or verbally, has expired. For example, if you paid for a hotel to the 10:00 on a sunday, and the hotel is closed that time, they might ask you to depoist the key in the key depoist when checking out and then they will get the key out of the box on the morning after. TECHNICALLY, you could stay longer, lets say to 16:00 since the hotel is closed, they don't know when you leave. BUT thats also illegal. Even if you have the key in your hands, and have not copied it, you are not allowed to use it past 10:00. If the hotel notices somehow you overstayed, usually they will just add a night to the bill and then its out of the world, but the hotel could also police report you, as even if you intend to buy a extra night, it MUST be authorized. You can't buy something without the business approval. (which also means, stealing a drink out of a fridge and then putting money on the desk or in a coin box is also illegal unless the company specifically made provisions for unmanned sale (like self-service checkout, vending machine, or a sign "Take a drink, pay for it by putting money in coin box on desk", or in case with hotel, they provided a means that "If you want to stay longer on a closed day, call XXX-XXXXX before 10:00 and request to order a extra night"). So no, its not illegal to, as a private person, copy a key, regardless of if its Do not copy, or high security or restricted, BUT you may not use the copy unless you are authorized to access the space in question.

[@ElHamdoulah-v5m]

What’s the name of this tin

[@JT-lq4yd]

Liked the clear 🔑.

[@Stealthsilent1337]

Very cool. If you want increased strength for the metal, alloy it with lead at 66sn 33pb I like the glue method better, no heat needed

[@electronicsNmore]

No, lead reduces the hardness of the key. Thanks for watching!

[@Stealthsilent1337]

Reaaallly? Wow I learned something

[@Stealthsilent1337]

I probably ment bending strength

[@randyolson961]

@@electronicsNmore Can I send you a key to copy?

[@ediethesalsafreak]

Great vid! ... and why did you put the wire in the clear epoxy?

[@electronicsNmore]

In case the key breaks, you can pull out the rest of the key.

[@chiragmakwana6567]

Great work!!!😊

[@andrewhallett-patterson9778]

Great techniques. Great idea. Thanks bro. 👍👍🇦🇺

[@electronicsNmore]

Thanks for watching Andrew! Be sure to share my channel with friends, and look over my video playlists.

[@TrojanHorse1959]

Great video and project, thanks for sharing it with us!

[@electronicsNmore]

You're welcome Robert! Be sure to watch my lock related video playlist below and share my channel with your friends. Thank you kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6PThGp5acyIjKM

[@stevenmazabow4974]

Can you please recommend a LOW VISCOSITY High Strength 15 - 30 min epoxy and maybe link to Amazon or Ebay ?

[@madelinesaeed4749]

I second this, can you please recommend what brand of epoxy one might use for this?

[@joeme1587]

Does Work With Plástic?

[@brandanroberts4366]

How long did it take to cure? I left mine for hours and hours and the middle was still liquid

[@electronicsNmore]

You must not have used fast drying epoxy, it was old epoxy, or you didn't mix it good enough using the proper ratio. Thanks for watching!

[@brandanroberts4366]

@@electronicsNmore no my silicone mold I mean. I haven't made it to the epoxy part.

[@brandanroberts4366]

also I bought the jb weld 2 part epoxy syringe. the one with the connected plunger? I should mix those together in a completely different syringe correct?

[@tectalabyss]

Awesome Buddy. The more one knows the better able to defend. Liked,Shared added to Playlists. All my best.

[@electronicsNmore]

Glad you enjoyed it Bobby! Thanks for all you do.

[@bluebull399]

How long will the epoxy key last? Is this the best method for duplicating keys. I have a lot of properties and am looking for an easy method to duplicate keys. Key cutting machines seem way too complicated with all the different styles of blanks. Would a 3d printer be a better option. Which method will produce the strongest keys?

[@electronicsNmore]

Hi Matt. The key wouldn't be made for everyday use. It's for a backup key. Thanks for watching! 3D printing sounds like a cool idea.

[@pouncerminned863]

Get a key machine, especially if you have multiple properties..don’t be using mounded keys man, be professional

[@JohnJ25]

Thanks again... I’m your new sub for 2022 :)

[@madelinesaeed4749]

Which epoxy do you recommend? I've tried searching for "low viscosity high strength two part epoxy" and "low viscosity hard curing resin" as you recommended however could not find anything

[@electronicsNmore]

Try this website. Thanks for watching! www.smooth-on.com/product-line/smooth-cast/

[@Moasda2012]

What epoxy do you use? I tried JB Weld Clear Weld but the result is more like rubber.

[@electronicsNmore]

I had the same problem. You can't use JB. Look online for a very low viscosity hard curing resin.

[@wallyeatsfood1842]

Hi, I have an old suitcase, but have lost the key. Is there a way to inject silicone into the lock and get a copy that I could use to file down a new key>

[@electronicsNmore]

No, it doesn't work that way. You need to pick the lock open, then disassemble it to make a key.

[@johnr4898]

Thank you for this vid.

[@electronicsNmore]

Glad you enjoyed it! Be sure to watch my "Locksmith & Bypass Tools" video playlist below and share my channel with many others. Thank you kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6PThGp5acyIjKM

[@madelinesaeed4749]

Hi, I love your videos, I wanted to know what kind of wire you use at the end to put in the epoxy key

[@electronicsNmore]

Hi Madeline. The wire was used in a twist tie. :-)

[@curley6531]

very cool thank you so much

[@electronicsNmore]

Glad you liked it!

[@collinritchieb1]

What’s the advantage of using this method over the alginate and epoxy?

[@electronicsNmore]

Reusable mold. :-)

[@collinritchieb1]

electronicsNmore and how did you preheat your mold when you used it?

[@electronicsNmore]

@@collinritchieb1 Toaster oven.

[@therealdeal7695]

Can i use hot glue instead of silicone?

[@HeliPadUSA]

This dude is James Bond!

[@electronicsNmore]

😂 Thanks for watching! Be sure to share the video link with friends. You'll like my "Locksmith & Bypass Tools" video playlist below. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHvQhqGFZr2Mhc0

[@paperjawa]

I see you taped a hole in the bottom of the container. Were you just patching it up from a different project? Does the hole in the bottom of the container serve a purpose?

[@electronicsNmore]

The hole allows me to insert my finger and push out the material once it has set.

[@Mur-lock68]

Wow! Impressive my friend!!

[@electronicsNmore]

Glad you enjoyed the video! Be sure to watch my video playlist below for other lock related videos, and most importantly share. Thank you! kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6PThGp5acyIjKM

[@00Skyfox]

The music that started playing sounded like a light piano version of the He-Man theme. Considering you own a key cutting machine, what's to stop you from simply cutting your own copy?

[@electronicsNmore]

My key machine can't cut angles.

[@John-eg2lj]

How long is curing time

[@electronicsNmore]

I waited a few hours

[@John-eg2lj]

Thanks for this awesome video I subscribed do you think that mold you had could cure in 2 hours maybe at 78 degrees

[@SPLEEGURL13]

What is the strength of that epoxy like? I would be so afraid the key would snap

[@electronicsNmore]

If it did snap, the wire inside would allow you to remove it. You need to use very low viscosity, and hard curing epoxy.

[@timj5367]

Amazing!

[@electronicsNmore]

Glad you enjoyed the video Tim! Be sure to watch my lock related video playlist below and share my channel with your friends. Thanks kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6PThGp5acyIjKM

[@hunterreed1010]

Awesome!

[@burakcinci1233]

Hi. Is epoxy key reuseble? Can i use it everyday or is it just for reserve?

[@electronicsNmore]

As backup only

[@OverlandOne]

Awesome.

[@electronicsNmore]

Glad you liked it! Be sure to watch my lock related video playlist below and most importantly share my channel with others. Thanks kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6PThGp5acyIjKM

[@rojeperfectoesguerra4217]

If this ok that i use soldering lead for the metal?

[@electronicsNmore]

No, way too soft. Use tin or pewter.

[@vylbird8014]

Tin is rather soft and flexible. Wouldn't pewter be better? The reason the alloy exists is that it is a lot harder wearing than pure tin.

[@electronicsNmore]

That's a great idea. Yes, Pewter is 4-5x harder than tin alone. The tin key is just fine, but you need to store it properly so you don't damage it. Thanks for watching!

[@KateGrayCode]

We use that song for our music on hold.

[@JapRapNipHop420]

I work as a locksmith. This methond will not work with the Mul-T keys because there is an interactive floating pin. Not even a 3D printer will work

[@MeEncantaKiley]

The do not duplicate is not a legally binding statement.

[@SPAINISHLOCKSMITH]

In the same time you can run it to the shop and buy a copy

[@electronicsNmore]

Another person that missed the point of the video.......

[@shortbusdriver]

ok i cant believe im admitting to this but.........i already know im a total dork so it matters little.... i got to the music toward the end and somehow it gave me a weird emotional response. so i listened again and i kinda "knew it already" , lol omfg you ready? i realized its a slowed down version of ....... the *^!@$)(*& HE-MAN THEME SONG! kzbin.info/www/bejne/barIcmqXZdqGaaM JUST A REMINDER HOW IN DEPTH THE IMPACT OF TV CAN BE ON KIDS AS I AM NOW 45, AND THAT SHIT HIT ME LIKE A TON OF BRICKS LOL

[@electronicsNmore]

LOL. Thanks for watching! Be sure to check out my video playlist below and share. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHvQhqGFZr2Mhc0

[@cootachoo]

It's not illegal to copy Do Not Duplicate keys.

[@electronicsNmore]

If the key belongs to another person, or the US Govt, it is.

[@cootachoo]

@@electronicsNmore That's true, it's illegal to copy a key that isn't your own. However, there are no specific laws stating that DND keys are illegal to copy. It just adds a bit more protection because people think they cant do it. The only circumstances you cant copy a DND key is if its part of a master key system, part of a patented/restricted key control system, or if the key technician suspects wrongful intent.

[@angrycatowner]

Seems like it would be easier to get a key blank and then file down to the correct pattern.

[@electronicsNmore]

You can do that for the typical pin tumbler key, but for a higher security key, you won't be filing it. :-) Thanks for watching!

[@greglilly3866]

Would be a much better video if you actually narrated during the process. I don't understand why people think quiet non-verbal instruction videos are better than narrated. You could have explained a lot of what your thinking process was while you were going along (over dubbed the narration after trimming the video). You could have explained some things like... 1) - How did you calculate the amount of liquid latex to use to get the exact fill of your mold? 2) - Have you ever tried using a release (oil or talc) to line the mold to make the latex remove easier so you don't have to destroy the mold to get it out? 3) - What type of metal ingot did you use? etc... Seems especially uncomfortable every time you point to something like we're supposed to be noticing something specific... but no narration to actually explain. There's tons of similar videos out there where the creators actually talk about what their showing. Good luck with your channel. Just something to consider. I personally am turned off by non-verbal instruction videos, so I won't be subscribing.

[@electronicsNmore]

I guess you haven't watched too many of my videos. 98% of them are extremely well explained. I'm well known for how well my videos are explained and easy to follow. There are countless videos on YT that get MILLIONS of views without speaking, so once in a while I like to take a break and make one. There was no calculation. I measured the amount by eye, and threw away the excess. You don't use oil with the supplies I used. In the video I said I used Tin. Thanks for watching

[@melissaorvin-david659]

Why not just take a picture of the key that would be the easiest thing to do my life my lock Smith I can take a picture of a key and you'll cut it out

[@SamuelKnaphus]

Some keys need permission from land owners to be printed….

[@marklee81]

Now just to make a video on how to copy a key from a KZbin video . . .

[@electronicsNmore]

Very easy to do, but I won't be showing that one. :-)

[@naimaeisik3051]

The second method what inside the 💉💉 please???

[@publicmail2]

Another non talking video.

[@electronicsNmore]

Yes, they're highly popular on YT, and I think I'm entitled to make one after all the talking I've done on my channel over the years.

[@hylee418]

LOL! It's a nice video but you call that cheap??? You can probably cut 4 keys with the price you bought the silicone for. Maybe same or similar cost to get the epoxy glue comparing to cutting the the key.

[@electronicsNmore]

Not even close. LOL. I guess you never tried duplicating high security keys. The supplies are cheap because you can use them many times.

[@paulmarren7970]

And whose got the time tick tick tick For all that? Speed is what we need Even with the parts already prepped too slow Sorry.🤔

[@electronicsNmore]

Clearly missed the point of the video, and when it would be useful.

[@tracycolorado]

all F^cking lame . just use super glue and fill up , and level the Do Not Copy letters , paint , take to Ace , Home Depot

[@electronicsNmore]

Wrong. LOL They don't have access to many of the key blanks even if they did want to copy them.

[@OverlandOne]

@tracycolorado Lame idea because they do not have any machines to make this type of key nor can they get the blanks.

[@eddiebruce8569]

Or jus take it somewhere to have it duplicated,I've simply done that before.No offence,but your way seems like a lot of unnecessary work.Why wouldn't anywhere duplicate?Yep too much $$$ and work your way

[@electronicsNmore]

I guess you never owned a very expensive high security lock. You just don't walk into any store to have it copied. There's a process, and it's expensive. The last thing I want to do is spend a lot of money on a "hide-a-key".

[@eddiebruce8569]

I've duplicated p.o.box keys numerous times

[@newyorkval1478]

So Irresponsible Of You

[@electronicsNmore]

Oh, you're one of those people that believes in withholding useful information from the public because you're more concerned about some Degenerate that may misuse the info. Good to know.....:-)

[@tectalabyss]

@@electronicsNmore Hello Doug. I think it boils down to,people who don't want to know just how easy it is to break into these locks. Both Crooks and people who live in the lefts delusional world. Has for myself I like to know these things has it adds another layer of knowledge to my defense's.

[@OverlandOne]

@New York Val Umm, the criminals ALREADY know how to do this so...