Hasan Piker Debates Michael Knowles for the First Time on "The Issue Is: with Elex Michaelson"

[@justice5408]

centrist host: hasan do you have anything nice to say about micheal, for bi-partisanship? hasan: no

[@lexi3171]

R

[@anonymouspokemon4623]

Once, a Leftist called and said "We don't want to unite with you, we want to destroy every single one of you".

[@OhThereItIs]

@@anonymouspokemon4623 where I grew up there were no leftists, we were forced to write with our right hand.

[@hollywoodjhawk7682]

@@anonymouspokemon4623 Michael Knowles did a panel with Kyle Kulinski and said basically the same thing that you are making up in this comment.

[@anonymouspokemon4623]

@@hollywoodjhawk7682 No proof = Never happened. Rule of thumb of internet.

[@sudevsen]

Knowles is just Ben Shapiro at 0.5x speed

[@Dullball57balldull75]

Hahahaha

[@rodrigoroa6753]

lol, he is slightly less annoying than shapiro but that's not really a compliment.

[@fufuman27]

Patriot Spring knowles is only well informed on micro stats and studies that support his arguments

[@janusgahrstre1998]

@@fufuman27 Why lie yo yourself and your ilk? Kind of silly to do, when you talk about people with elite education who were among the best in their classes, nuh? And you talk about a guy who ran a campaign for a senatecandidate or congresscandidate as a 17 year old or what it was, and almost got him elected. He knows politics. Just say you disagree with him. Don't pretend like he is not welinformed and has a sharp mind. He has been very successful at all he has done. And very blunt and efficient, which the left has recognized, so they have targeted his speaking gigs, attacked him, and they have gotten him cenceled as opinionator on MSM. And he was number 1 in political channels on this site, when he hosted the verdict with Ted Cruz. As you should know, that is a show about the inner workings in congress, and about fascism in some hearings regarding the left and their institutions they control, that controls the entire worlds narrative

[@Greyz174]

@@janusgahrstre1998 I like the part where you didn't give any evidence that he isn't a hack and just proceeded to say he's an effective political pundit (because people that do well in politics never lie) and talk shit about the left.

[@ahmarcamacho8404]

Political views aside, these guys didn't yell over each other. It was actual a normal debate, they both did great. Felt like I learned something

[@sshadyh]

fr it was nice and respectful

[@aaronduerst]

well both did as nice as they could, regarding the position they are representing. just one of them got the science and facts on his side. but still its a wellcome change from the "presidential" rhethoric.

[@johnnymax7277]

That’s why we love hasan

[@theviralspiral-courtesyoft1187]

@@aaronduerst Who's the one with "science" and "facts" ?

[@LinkMcStink]

I can practically guarantee you Hasan IMMEDIATELY went to Twitch to bitch to his sycophantic followers about how dumb he thinks Michael is. Because Hasan is a child.

[@stonewall5792]

Hasan is the furthest from a libertarian lmao.

[@Afineaddition]

@Mike Goodwalk The famous comedian Dave Smith put it best: He's just an authoritarian Democrat posing as a radical. Can't really knock Hasan's hustle, though. He's making big bank by catering to online tankie circles

[@snow6094]

@Mike Goodwalk **ignores point of how it’s unreasonable to call someone who wants workplace democracy an authoritarian**

[@tann_man]

@@snow6094 correction: *STATE ENFORCED workplace democracy.* You are free to form unions/coops/ whatever agreement u want when the market is free.

[@snow6094]

@@tann_man how has that been working for Amazon, Walmart and Tesla workers?

[@tann_man]

@@snow6094 pretty good. You have the freedom to not work for a company you think is shit. If they were truly that bad, so many people wouldn’t be competing to work there. The reality is those companies offer competitive benefits, and a secure fixed wage to their employees that other companies simply cannot provide.

[@dylanschang6386]

Quote of the day: “You Hassan are speaking more clearly to young progressives than established democrats” round of applause for you Michael

[@TonyNaber]

No, impossible. Must smear him! Quick, what fucked up shit did he say 7 years ago after a few too many? - Strategists

[@albertbecerra]

Hmm, he has a point

[@manuelgallego3196]

Hasan countered pretty well by identifying basic principles of decency and social responsibility as "radical". Instinctively I would say Michael's strategy was to mainly protect his chin while Hasan tried to pursue by cutting off the ring.

[@gazinta]

He said that public and private schools should be run the same if the public schools are a failure. Um. He just red pilled himself. You must've missed that part @16:00

[@TonyNaber]

​@Thomas Larkin He's already been smeared for that one. That was poor wording which he apologized for. It was in the context of history and geopolitics

[@joshuacolburn7274]

Middle Guys First words:“....Gemndtremen, welcome!.....” Me: “...wWhat?”

[@tobymcgroby8967]

So glad someone said it, so satisfying when you discover a comment saying what your about to post👍

[@guitarchim]

Middle guy: gerdermen, welcome Me: oook that's enough **closes browser**

[@aomorgancool1775]

@@tobymcgroby8967 believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved. For God so loved the world that he sent his one and only son and whoever believes in him shall not die but have eternal life. If you trust that Jesus' death on the cross has payed the penalty for your sin you will have eternal life. There is nothing anyone can do to earn heaven, only Jesus can save a person from eternity in hell. You may be persecuted for putting your trust in Jesus but take heart, for anything you lose for Christ on earth God will compensate you in heaven. Obey Christ if you choose Jesus because that is expected of every Christian.

[@thevideonaut6152]

@@aomorgancool1775 No

[@10010error]

Gender-men

[@sklerp386]

I really liked the conversation. No over acting form either side, no one personally berates the other, nor makes a mock of themselves. This is how i want every political debate to be.

[@Luckytrapt]

Doesn’t sell as many tickets unfortunately. Bummer but I’m with ya

[@IbnLoay]

fr man, like i enjoy when both sides can respect each other and im not subconciously listening to one side based on who is being more respectful. now i can actually just listen to what they say and think for myself

[@ricklazio7923]

conversation was great, but my goodness if michael knowles isn't convincing. facts, figures and reasonable arguments that are on topic. i have begun to notice and even on young turnks that we democrats voice our arguments in an emotional way and tend to get lost when debating ppl like knowles. i dunno... i'm beginning to cross to the right.

[@L4rceny]

@@ricklazio7923 It's ok to agree on some things my friend. 👍

[@sklerp386]

@@L4rceny right?! Its almost like that's how our dule-party system should work. Diverse in our opinions but able to reach bipartisanship in our decision making. People treat politics now like its the super bowl...unconditional support for their team and unconditional hatred for their opposition...Sucks big cocka

[@herbertsalamancaable]

You should put these two guys on again to review their statements from this show.

[@richarddrapeau7599]

Yes

[@emdubb1381]

why Hasan would have to admit hes a moron but hes done nothing but double, triple, and quadrupled down. hes a shill and will never admit being one

[@snow6094]

@@emdubb1381 ahhh, and the guy who said “cointelpro was fine” but makes his entire show about cancel culture is “credible” tho, right?

[@kingofgrim4761]

@@emdubb1381 ??? Yes he’s a “shill” for having the EXACT SAME VIEWS all his life, despite when he made much much more money and could easily become a right wing grifter and make millions upon millions more

[@scratchpenny]

@@kingofgrim4761 What are you talking about? He's entitled and has those views because of his family (his uncle being Cenk). He realized young that there is money in being a shill for the left, just as there is money being a shill for the right. Hassan is a champagne socialist who lives very wealthily off capitalism but promotes socialist ideas. These kinds of people don't have any integrity.

[@crimeminister2]

I love how Hasan is holding himself back and largely saying only things that a liberal would say, and the host, probably unaware, is kind of taking his side thinking they are on the same team.

[@lakersfansince1991]

Is he an undercover commie?

[@senthan09]

@@lakersfansince1991 sort of. He's broadly leftist. He does speak favourably about Socialism and Communism.

[@lakersfansince1991]

@@senthan09 sounds eDgY

[@cryptocine1011]

i think he’s in favor of socialism & communism but supports democratic socialism and backed bernie when he was running bc he recognizes that revolution is nowhere near and that it is more realistic to socialize america

[@senthan09]

@@cryptocine1011 exactly. Took the words out of my mouth

[@ScarletAquaCrimson15]

I just realized Hasan has a basketball with googly eyes in the background 😂

[@pipersimpson684]

Its his gf.

[@crunchy_crop]

It's his fleshlight

[@coolglue9663]

I got this comment to 69 likes, my job here is done...

[@babufrik9289]

@@coolglue9663 I’m sorry for your loss

[@coolglue9663]

@@babufrik9289 I tried 😂

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

Moderator forgot that he was supposed to moderate and not debate

[@bobinpune]

Isn't he supposed to rein someone in when they are lying? Debating doesn't mean you get a free pass to lie or be stupid.

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

bujambura burundi Knowles wasn’t even lying what were you on about?

[@lightingwolf1]

bujambura burundi found the Hassan fan, name a lie

[@caydcrow5161]

Duval In The Wall he was using three month old data lol I love Knowles and watch him often but that isn’t the source I would bring to a debate

[@bobinpune]

@@Duval-In-The-Wall *People in the US seem to think it's the only country under lockdown.* No, it's not. It's happened everywhere around the world. Trump is not running in India or UK. If everyone wore a mask US could have controlled the spread loooong ago. But no, some politicians need to somehow keep their voters fired up constantly even if it means they don't wear a mask in a pandemic and jeopardize their health. Trump needs to man up, quit whining, take initiative, wear a mask and set an example. People will still vote for him in droves. No need to be crybaby. Believe in your voters and save their lives.

[@cooltraineraaron4618]

I love that Michael actually commended Hasan at the end. That was genuine.

[@ExiledSummoner]

I can just straight up see the frustration in hassan building as he struggles not to start getting blunt af lmao

[@Spencerwalker21]

@Bout It why are you lying

[@ThePandaMan033]

@Bout It Taken incredibly out of context lmao

[@ThePandaMan033]

@@santiagogalaviz6850 💀bro I didn't even add a political input, I was just saying that it was taken out of context. It's not like I'm unaware of the constant out of context statements occurring everywhere, I just happened to say that for Hasans statement it was taken out of context. And I'm not a liberal lol I literally used to lean more republican before I realized US politics consist more of bashing each other rather than finding a middle ground which is something I personally prefer more, which is now why I sort of fluctuate between ideas rather than a party.

[@paleemperor5379]

@Bout It Didn't know commenting on a youtube video is imperialism

[@paleemperor5379]

@Bout It How am i trying to change any existing culture?

[@anu.3663]

“michael has a great studio” 💀💀

[@pteridophobia2115]

you could see the rage in his eyes xd

[@rodrigoroa6753]

owned

[@legendofshaunesquire3014]

Yeah that Koch money really pays off

[@janusgahrstre1998]

@@legendofshaunesquire3014 You have to start informing yourself before you parrot that falsehood by default about everybody. Since you can only parrot, I will do the legwork for you kiddo. The daily wire is co-owned by Shapiro and the wilks brothers, not David Koch. The wilks are not evil industrialists who wants illegal immigration to keep down wages. They are fracking billionaires who has sold themselves out, and are now philantropes who spreads the word of God, and donate money to churches. Their agenda is God and morality, judeochristian values.

[@kanetraxxas]

Janus gahr støre if you love god shouldn’t you also love the home he gave us. Why support people who push a love of Christ to cover up for the evil things they do

[@NeusReeves]

I added up all of the time between Knowles and Piker. Enjoy. Mask Mandate Knowles: 4:20 Piker: 6:09 (last word) President Trumps Approach Knowles 1:37 Piker 2:17 (last word) The Feds Move In Knowles: 2.09 Piker: 6:36 (last word) The Election Knowles: 1:24 Piker: 4:11 (last word) TOTAL: Knowles 9:30 Piker 19:13

[@shridharbiju7370]

You do realise that Michael isn't making any points when he is given time. They didn't talk over each other so Michael could have done so. Hasan was making points with evidence but Michael was only using anecdotes.

[@star-warsien]

@@shridharbiju7370 lol the only real anecdote was his use of masks comment everything else he cited actual facts... Right, they didn't talk over each other but Michael wasn't given the time to reply to the comments. As a moderator this is what you need to account for and as for as debates go I think this was still better then a lot of them.

[@PockiiU]

You should measure by words 😂

[@tonybaloney7403]

I truly feel sorry for the education you got if you think any of that happened

[@stevemasterson7776]

@@shridharbiju7370 bwhahahahahahahaha yes Micheal brings up CDC, Cenks nephew "well that doesn't count" Lol

[@billy6220]

October 2021 here, Hassan's arguments haven't aged well.

[@jasonbelt8954]

His arguments NEVER age well.

[@DoctorLazertron]

His arguments failed decades ago when the Soviet Union failed.

[@Spartan69117]

Yet he goes from 50k+ a year at TYT, now he’s big on twitch and now he’s on H3H3 too. I don’t understand the appeal of him at all.

[@jannyjan90]

same they really didn't

[@sikhwidit9758]

Nope and they will continue to never age well

[@bridgetbogan1670]

Why does the mediator let Hassan have the last word for EVERY TOPIC?

[@anonymousalexander6005]

b lmao

[@moefriends1093]

ya its annoying when this happens because when they have the last word they feel as if they just won

[@gabrielledesmeules9802]

Because he’s not telling lies like the other one

[@quantrindic5488]

@@gabrielledesmeules9802 LOL

[@AL79ful]

Lmao cry more, Lib.

[@davidbielby8548]

14:30 "they're not gonna wanna do debates to hide bidens fragility" lmao this aged well

[@neuro1073]

@@yooowefsifjosidfjasda7293 well this aged well. Trump won the last debate that was irl so either way, wether it was online or offline he would’ve still won that debate imo. As for the election however, it’s all still a toss up tbh.

[@kinoepigrafe]

@@neuro1073 How's that dose of copium?

[@thebookofeli1105]

@@neuro1073 I disagree on him winning either debate, I think the debates were abhorrent for both of them. It's really up to the American people now on if we want to shoot ourself in the left or the right foot. Either way we're up for a rough four years

[@neuro1073]

@@thebookofeli1105 fair enough. That’s your perspective and it makes sense. Perfectly fine with that.

[@alchemyc8309]

@@thebookofeli1105 As Noam Chomsky put it you have a choice between a not so great run of the mill politician or someone who with another 4 years could push the planet over the tipping point to extinction. I know who I'd be voting for if I lived in america

[@classysfrag]

Elex, you were very, apparently, biased. Bad form.

[@polishpipebomb]

Your guy could just not lie every single argument he makes and the moderater would not need to correct him. You guys LITERALLY blame reality for not conforming to your demented world view.

[@kingoftendie]

@@polishpipebomb What lie?

[@RR-fy5sn]

kevin trying to politicize the cdc comments with an old statement which the cdc themselves redacted after more data came out and then he tried to challenge the data. You guys say facts over feelings but when the facts are not in your favor it’s liberal PC propaganda

[@kingoftendie]

R R Knowles was making an argument that the “experts” change their minds all the time and they don’t even follow their own advice. Fauci says one thing but does the other when he thinks he’s not on camera. Fauci doesn’t seem to think masks do much of anything and neither does Biden when he wears the mask dangling from his ear, not protecting anyone. As for “facts don’t care about your feelings,” I’m pretty sure that saying came as a response to “you guys” when you feel like the opposite gender that contradicts your chromosomes.

[@kingoftendie]

user name except they’re not? Sweden never mandated masks nor shut down. Not even Fauci is buying the scam. He doesn’t use face masks in his personal life outside the cameras.

[@AfuegoPappi]

What Michael said did really age well a year and half later... Jeeze

[@TV-ob1if]

Of course it did. The Left only uses their form of "science" to bludgeon people over the head with. The Right uses Science to make decisions for themselves.

[@adamehling131]

Loool in what way

[@kingofgrim4761]

@Old Chunk of Coal ???? You’re the ones with the burden of proof. His mask shit has been proven wrong. Hasan still has the empirical evidence showing even more that masks help, as well as most of what knowles said being debunked real time but Hasan of all people

[@p.as.in.pterodactyl1024]

@@kingofgrim4761 Masks do work, but toilet paper works better.

[@kamala7101]

@@kingofgrim4761 surgical masks literally do nothing

[@prolaxbro4474]

Elex this is superb content. PLEASE DO THIS MORE!!! The people only benefit from conversations like this!

[@TicoEnDallas]

*Hasan Piker and Elex Michaelson Debates Michael Knowles...

[@bobinpune]

Host reins in stupid "debater" when he tries to politicize a simple precaution like a mask!

[@Duneboy13]

2v1 it’s only fair

[@caydcrow5161]

I’m conservative and I mean CONSERVATIVE lol but he actually did a pretty good job

[@BethLove333]

Right wingers are such snowflakes! You're just angry because "your guy" lost and is weak and idiotic.

[@jackvalentine9027]

ha..

[@jimxwilliamofficial9592]

The host looked so insanely proud every time Hassan spoke 😂

[@danielcasillas1133]

Not really

[@Kaerikillington]

What

[@nosananolife8669]

He’s liberal

[@BumpyHumpyDumpy]

His bus was extremely clear, which makes sense considering no rational person would rely upon Hasan Piker as a debater. These people are complete jokes.

[@ClayMationNation]

@@BumpyHumpyDumpy Yea I have fucking no clue what all these comments about how well hasan did here are all about. Knowles fucking owned him at every turn.

[@sham1428]

Hassan the type of dude to wear a mask in his car by himself

[@AllanDavisArt]

Science!

[@martianproductions997]

Mikey the type of guy to froth at the mouth if he sees a LGBT person

[@kristianrodriguez4676]

@@martianproductions997Idk where this sentiment that he hates gay people came from.

[@dungfungus56]

​@@kristianrodriguez4676he wants to eradicate transgerism

[@michaelmannucci8585]

@@kristianrodriguez4676 They lack critical thinking skills, so they default to "HATE!"

[@janealexis04]

Elex: Gennermen, welcome. Me: This is gonna be trash...

[@turgonnaish]

Well job.

[@MrCellardoor7]

I thought I misheard it, I had the same feeling

[@MrAlwaysRight]

Omg thank you, this. You made me laugh so hard. I closed the video as soon as I heard that. But then came back just to read comments lololol

[@vedlkin111]

I had to replay it a few times when I heard it to make sure It wasn't just me.

[@RoxorTehCoxor]

Mom can't even spell Alex.

[@philipgeorge9522]

People killing people at a funeral is an issue about over policing?

[@gnomadicgemhound5634]

Lol. Id call it pure hatered. How are the police to blame for someone else's poor choices

[@NocturnalIntuition]

exactly. the fact that he implied Chicago is over-policed is laughable .

[@indominusdragonlee1805]

It was white supremacists killing blacks people at the funeral. But white supremacists are “good people” according to trump and MANY police are white supremacists so they won’t be held accountable

[@chronokoks]

@@indominusdragonlee1805 white supremacists killing black people at a funeral? What? It was 3 africa-americans (one of them identified as Nuemonei Travon Laster) ... wtf stop doing drugs .. if this is trolling then it's not funny

[@philipgeorge9522]

@@indominusdragonlee1805 There is a quick way to fact check this statement you made. Check your fake news media outlets like CNN or MSNBC. If it had been white supremacists, they would have been covering this story 24 x 7. Checking.... no sorry, they covered it once, found out it was gang related, and moved on to cover more important issues like how often Donald Trump wears his mask.

[@patrickreichert1442]

This was a decent debate. They disagreed mostly respectfully. Cheers to both!

[@greenburg2276]

one with facts and one with emotion

[@hinasakukimi]

@@greenburg2276 true, michael is pretty emotional

[@tyronejones5657]

@@hinasakukimi Hasan was even more emotional

[@enterpassword3313]

​@@hinasakukimi pointing out sweden was more successful by actually following the science is emotional? But saying "we need to open safely" isnt emotional?

[@hinasakukimi]

@@enterpassword3313 you're right, "we need to open dangerously" is far more logical

[@randylynch4330]

The hosts face when Knowles says CDC hadn't updated yet lmaoooo

[@kylec973]

“He has a nice studio”😂😂😂😂😂

[@michaelbergamo2332]

i cringed when he asked hasan to give him a compliment knowing how much hasan hates those bullshit displays of unity lmao

[@jared1964]

@@michaelbergamo2332 It's so fucking funny it's like he wants to say fuck outta here with that shit

[@Drunkgamer904]

This moderator is awfully aggressive towards one side to be a moderator.....

[@dattboii6541]

No our moderator is trying to steer the conversation out of idiocracy since one side is just a spouting pure bull shit

[@Drunkgamer904]

@@dattboii6541 lmao what cringe comment. He debates with Knowles rather the ask questions. What terrible "moderator", definitely steering clear of this cancer.

[@dattboii6541]

@@Drunkgamer904 literally the other guy cited an outdated Cdc article and hasan gave him a study that showed mask stop the spread of the virus by 70% thank Knowles ignores that study and said faucci didnt wear a mask at 1 point if you dont think that's idiocracy than your an idiot

[@jordansunix-basedmachine5222]

I mean, sure. Maybe the moderator should not have asked such pointed questions or argued, but Michael was being ridiculous. This isn't even a partisan issue. I am willing to be charitable and say that Michael got anxious and caved into making really weak points because he panicked from the pressure. I am not, however, going to pretend that his arguments were good.

[@ellobodiablo4274]

@@jordansunix-basedmachine5222 If you actually listen to him break down his arguments on his show you might have a deeper understanding.

[@Snbravo03]

“Gentermen”

[@Jasper.Rose99]

I thought I was the only one 😃😂

[@Armendosmaciato]

Men? I prefer gentlethey

[@chasepalagi7675]

Wow, this aged poorly for The Piker. Imagine that!

[@cydra_infinity1423]

The right is winning 🔥

[@qwert5854]

These comments are awfully ironic now considering the president and cabinet members/First Lady are infected

[@devil4244]

i know, i'm reading them right now

[@devil4244]

@Aru Gula i think you missed the point

[@devil4244]

@Aru Gula something about the internet and stupid seems to be a theme for some ppl. you can make all the snark remarks you want, you still missed the point

[@devil4244]

@Aru Gula do you know the expression 'right over the head'

[@devil4244]

@Aru Gula so now, you're resorting to insults. while you waste your breathe not thinking about why the comment went over your head? Insulting me, doesn't make it any less so that you missed the point.

[@jessefay4984]

Imagine having to debate your opponent and the mediator.....

[@zingiestmeerkat]

Just to make it an equal match! 😉

[@joes7396]

zingiestmeerkat I mean it’s fine to support knowles, everyone has their own opinions, but he sounded like an idiot in this debate and idk how you can deny that.

[@RobinVanPersie1998]

Imagine not saying dumb shit and therefore not needing the moderator to moderate

[@Ec8625ec]

Joe S in what way?

[@JTM1987]

Joe S did you watch the same interview I did? Because what I saw was the moderator allowing Hasan to speak for minutes on end about several different points and only allowing Michael to respond to one point very briefly. The moderator was clearly biased. Also how in any way did Knowles come off as an idiot? The guy made very clear arguments.

[@Bc31411]

Would've loved to have heard Knowles talk.

[@RobinVanPersie1998]

Damn, must be deaf then.

[@Bc31411]

@@RobinVanPersie1998 Joke was Piker talked way more than Knowles there sport

[@phxsisko]

He did and sounded like an idiot using outdated data to backup erroneous claims.

[@joshcarter5759]

PHX-Sisko sheesh. Not even 4 months and the data is outdated. It’s almost like the results of these “studies” change based on political utility.

[@TehStylishone]

@@joshcarter5759 Lmao.

[@jxwhit8]

well... this didn't age well for Piker. looking back.... Knowles was right on every point.

[@antoniopatricio8760]

he was at that moment and has been until now. we got screwed up the moment the virus has become a political issue rather than a health one

[@hophmanbg]

He is a typical idiot who beleives that has thinking abilities, so normal. I bet he will never admit he was wrong even to himself.

[@vectar]

@@hophmanbg He won't. All he does is vent to his echo chamber on Twitch, so he thinks all of his points are right because his fanboys eat it up.

[@corvonics6383]

Yeah unfortunately Hasan listens to Twitch chat and no offense I love twitch but the majority of people who watch are either 12 or dumb as hell

[@hophmanbg]

@@corvonics6383 this kind of people don't realize that truth mattets otherwise we will destroy everything which has value, anyway there is not much left

[@darkma1ice]

The fact Hassan buttoned his Hawaiian shirt’s top button makes him lose

[@SidekickSam24]

lol

[@Ctavy]

@kylerobertm I think the joke is that he did something no sane person would, taking an extremely informal shirt that's meant to be unbuttoned, and buttoning it and using it for a formal fashion.

[@floatingtigerscarriff6664]

Making himself not to be taken seriously

[@Ctavy]

@Karen Kasparian Yo where's your profile picture from?

[@Ctavy]

@Karen Kasparian Nah I'm not attractive, that pfp is tho was wondering if she has an instagram

[@noname-mw7oy]

I am just going to point out that the study that Michael noted was for influenza and had no mention of Covid in the report at all.

[@7EiamJ7]

Would it make a difference? If covid is easier to spread would that not make masks less effective then they are with the flu.

[@noname-mw7oy]

@@7EiamJ7 Well first of all siting an Influenza report while there is loads of reports specifically about Covid which say masks do work is kinda weird already but let's say we just treat it as another Covid report. Covid and the Flu are not the same. Covid is more contagious and spreads from a different virus which are two variables not used in that report because it is only about Influenza. That could effect things. And if Covid is easier to spread it would not make masks less effective if the basis for Influenza is to not wear them in the first place. It's probably redundant to wear a mask with the flu but because of Covid being different it makes sense.

[@7EiamJ7]

@@noname-mw7oy unless the droplets for covid and flu are different does it matter what the report is on? Covid has become very politicised so arguably a pre pandemic report on mask effectiveness may carry more weight.

[@noname-mw7oy]

@@7EiamJ7 I'm not sure on the specific differences of the droplets but there is obviously some differences because there is a pretty sound conclusion that masks do help to prevent the transmission of Covid and this one study about the Flu saying otherwise doesn't change that when the mast majority say masks are useful for Covid.

[@7EiamJ7]

@@noname-mw7oy have you got a link to the study? I remember reading one that was talking about rats in glass containers, so you have four containers, 2 with infected rats, each opposite healthy rats, one had holes in the divider and the other had a clean N95 mask with no gaps, the conclusion being that the masked rat was fine where as the other was not and they concluded masks work. Now I know this is not humans and covid but the problem is that not everyone has a fitted sealed and fresh mask on. To my knowledge that is the issue with telling people masks work, they come to believe it will work regardless of what the mask is made of, how clean it is and how well fitted it is, plus the false sense of security can lead to a more lax attitude for other simple measures like washing hands and staying a distance from others. I can tell you from experience that not wearing mask keeps people away haha.

[@warrencapaldi9544]

Hassan’s face at the end shows you he really enjoyed that studio comment 😂

[@Wackaz]

Haha yes

[@jonathanwilliams1271]

Yes, he probably thought it was a very witty piece of banter.

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

@j - k Lol, no

[@sporedoutofmymind]

Oh man not a single top of the hour segue RIP

[@JohnJohnson-mo4bn]

This Host/Moderator is extremely biased.

[@dominicpirola8240]

*based

[@seanhubbard6033]

Reality has a left wing bias

[@scratchpenny]

@@seanhubbard6033 It depends on how you define left-wing. Center-left, then sure. But if you go too far left, they start sounding like a religion where narratives matter more than facts. We see this with some of the BLM people and Marxist ideology. And financially, the left has always tended to drift into unreality, where the systems they propose don't usually work. The truth is that ideology is the start of losing grip on reality. The further you follow ideology rather than facts/evidence/results, the further you drift into unreality. This can happen on either side, and at times in history, one side tends to be more out of touch than another. We see that in many cases, the left, in general, is now drifting too far into ideology.

[@bellyjean6652]

Knowles everytime Hasan speaks: "I agree with you on that point but actually no I don't."

[@itkojecockot]

he does that so Piker doesn't start to cry...... he's trying to keep him in the debate, cause he's inclusive(unlike liberals :D)

[@bellyjean6652]

@@itkojecockot hasan isn't a liberal LMAOOOO

[@konorsmind]

@@itkojecockot Hasan is not a fucking liberal hahahahaaaaa

[@Barbaari111]

@@itkojecockot Smooth take from you Smooth brained, that is

[@leonrothier6638]

@@itkojecockot b-b-but he doesnt like liberalz!!!!

[@JohnDoe-kq8dx]

"Gentermen..." Jesus. A second in and I already lost

[@EuphoniaPooch]

Lol I was wondering if I imagined that

[@kyleduddleston4123]

🤣🤣🤣 Immediately came to the comments to check!

[@revenge680]

You should have been there for the buildup. They had Hasan adjust his camera like 17 times just to mess up a second in. Lol

[@fiderdvis4714]

it is short for "gendernutralmen"

[@kyleduddleston4123]

@@fiderdvis4714 🤣 I should've know it was some new woke term.

[@Ayerborne]

Weird how these young men on KZbin conduct themselves more professionally than the "experts" on legacy media.

[@triple_x_r_tard]

i hope you don't see Hasan as professional. he's backhanded as hell, exploiting the civility. he's the result of nepotism.

[@Tantrum777]

"Crenshaw lost his eye when a 'brave' Mujahideen soldier 'f***ed his eyehole with their d**k" - Hasan Piker Wow what a professional.

[@jamierobertson8618]

@@Tantrum777 triggered

[@Tantrum777]

@@jamierobertson8618 It is an exact quote, that is not me being triggered. When you quote some one that is saying what they say.

[@jamierobertson8618]

@@Tantrum777 Do you think he should be canceled?

[@blingbling2309]

"YOU HAVE A NICE STUDIO" LMFAO

[@RealJackHQ]

Hey, yellow looks good on you Patrick.

[@blingbling2309]

@@RealJackHQ who's Patrick?

[@RealJackHQ]

Mikey Patrick from SpongeBob SquarePants. He wore yellow underwear in the Frycook Olympics to show how much he loved his fellow Sponge buddy.

[@dericksuapaia]

How was that funny?

[@blingbling2309]

@@dericksuapaia the host asked Hasan to compliment Michael. Hasan says "he has a nice studio" lol

[@jamesdavis625]

"Wait Michael, that was in May, wasn't it updated since then?" :Smug Smile: Michael responds, "No". :Smug Smile disappears: 4:57

[@SHADOW-241]

Proceeds to move on lol

[@oceanbreeze1162]

And that's why moderators should shut their traps.

[@rvxnge7491]

@@sierraairehvac 😂😂

[@whyareyoureadingthis5227]

@@sierraairehvac That concept isnt real and is equivalent to asking someone are they a Libra or a Virgo

[@whyareyoureadingthis5227]

@@sierraairehvac That mentality was taken from actual usage of beta and alpha in animals and morphed to fit the toxic masculinity that runs rampant especially in gen z era. It's a dumb line of thinking that Hasan for example literally makes fun of and uses it ironically. Believing in stuff like that is what ironically defines someone as a "beta male".

[@Wackaz]

10:48 This makes me chuckle, it's like a school playground debate and I love it.

[@unironicallyablueraspberry4959]

@Wackaz 2.0 lmao

[@chadm2343]

@@ImAmirus Yeah, no. They would not know more, they would know what you want them to know. Which is a lie.

[@chadm2343]

@@ImAmirus No, I will tell you what you should tell them. Nothing. Politically indoctrinating children is not okay.

[@chadm2343]

@@ImAmirus Ah of course, resorting to gaslighting and strawmanning. Expected.

[@chadm2343]

@@ImAmirus "I know you are but what am I" Quit the foolish playground nonsense

[@1love1god1people9]

Aged like fine wine

[@kiddhitta]

"Hasn't it been updated? 😃 "It hasn't been updated" 😕

[@roccotarli762]

It hardly matters because the health officials themselves only follow their own guidelines when it’s convenient to them.

[@timeflowEqualquin]

Jake Murphy excuse me? Which type of research are you talking about? Because Einstein did research that are still relevant even today

[@ponguso1]

@@JMJets but they can be if we are in the midst of a new pandemic that weve never researched before, they have to keep updating us on new info because this has never existed, of course its gonna change and of course they are gonna tell us about the changes so we know how to handle it better

[@robot3759]

@@ponguso1 Viruses aren't anything new. The only time research completely 180s is when we had never studied it before. If you study something and come to a definitive answer, one sure enough you would tell the public not to wear masks, that won't suddenly change to "wear masks" within a few months. Name me a time where research did a complete 180 on its original results.

[@timeflowEqualquin]

Jake Murphy yeah second look at it , however why stated that it’s 2-3 months just to say they aren’t irrelevant. (Bad word choice )Which is misleading btw.

[@YUSoEpic]

Why don't these debates happen more often these days??

[@Freqv]

For real!

[@Dan_Tasty]

Because right wing echo chambers ignore the almost constant debate offers from the likes of Sam Seder, Kyle Kulinski, and David Packman and it takes mediators like this show to force both sides into long form debates to get any real conversation happening

[@Freqv]

Dan Tasty we could list people on both sides who don’t want to debate, but there are plenty of right wingers who try to debate people from the TYT or other prominent Democrats and they turn around and lie about it and say things like “I’m not going to give a platforms to hate” let’s be real people like Ben Shapiro and crowded are willing to debate and crowder in particular was very willing to debate kulinski but Kyle didn’t want to

[@Dan_Tasty]

FREQVENCY Crowder notoriously wouldn’t debate sam seder, and bailed on his debate with Kyle at politicon. Shapiro only goes on programs where he knows he’ll be in control or unchallenged i.e. dave rubin, fox, eric weinstein, prager u, and most recently joe rogan. There are definitely democrats that want to censor the right because they don’t know how to combat their arguments without talking like leftists (who they hate more). proper left wingers only have a problem with people like Rubin who let blatant lies and disgusting rhetoric slip through unchallenged, all while perpetuating the fiction that people in the IDW and figures like Molyneux are ‘the new center’

[@Freqv]

Dan Tasty I think maybe Kyle and Crowder both don’t like each other to the point where neither of them will debate, I’ve seen Kyle denounce some of crowders jokes as hateful but anyways I think we both agree that more debates like these need to happen, I’m in the conservative camp and I am more than willing to listen to a real liberal debate a conservative but I don’t think there is enough real liberals that make waves and headlines, they are frowned upon because the far left is so savage and tribal they will attack their own. It makes me sad to see people like jimmy dore and Kyle kulinski slept on compared to extreme activism

[@Gamersb3stfri3nd]

The bias of the host/moderator kind of undercuts this debate. I'd rather the host stay unbiased and let each side speak for themselves

[@AndroidHarris]

I think the moderator should challenge the person who is winning more than the person who isn't winning.

[@mitchduncan2942]

@@AndroidHarris you’re an idiot

[@Rdff522]

Listening to this as ax ex liberal…I now see how delusional my thinking was.

[@pvyj]

How so?

[@zzkkkrjjeeeii]

Same

[@TehStylishone]

Hasan Piker - "Leave it up to local government to handle these issues.." Seattle - Am I a joke to you?

[@blabla8159]

Federalism when it suits our agenda - Progressives

[@harryday3258]

ok “socialism when it suits our agenda” - Conservatives

[@blabla8159]

@@harryday3258 *Taps mic* Wrong

[@jackjon7763]

Harry day so it’s socialism now to protect federal courthouses from rioters throwing Molotovs and foreworks? Yeah alright

[@jackjon7763]

Nathan White he’s probably a guy that thinks anything the government does is automatically socialism

[@RodneySeay]

The guy debating Michael needs to go outside for some vitamin D first🤣🤣🤣

[@tomcruisemiddleteeth]

yeah, because that's relevant.

[@juliosifuentes6499]

@@tomcruisemiddleteeth it is, a m.d at local hospital prescribed me mecication and told me to buy zinc and he steases o. The vitamin D.

[@danh5810]

He probably gets too much D and not enough V...

[@danh5810]

@@jacobmcelroy5776 mmmmmm not homophobic, more like stereotyping.

[@danh5810]

@@jacobmcelroy5776 Nope. Not at all, but you can have your opinion.

[@certifiedforkliftdriver9987]

"gentermen, WELCOME"

[@Juuk-D]

Gender men?

[@Juuk-D]

@Derek Hitt Bruce Jenner?

[@yodamaster757]

Juuk - Bc it sounds like he said gender men

[@yodamaster757]

Juuk - I’m assuming

[@hahandroo]

Hasan’s apartment SCREAMS overpriced 1 bedroom LA apartment without a washer and dryer for $2899.00 a month

[@vectar]

Don't worry, he has a $3 million house now courtesy of his Twitch viewers' mom's credit cards.

[@hahandroo]

@@vectar niiiice 🤭🤙🏽

[@traiforse5777]

@@vectar What a true socialist. Don't forget that he also got a job at TYT by his own merit of being the owner's nephew.

[@kingofgrim4761]

@@traiforse5777 ah yes, socialism is when no money

[@scratchpenny]

@@kingofgrim4761 No, but it's the hypocrisy of these people. They don't want a free and just system as they claim. They want a system where they are in power, even if they didn't earn those spots.

[@MathiasWarwick]

30 seconds in. “Abolish rent” 😂

[@for111]

In his world, it's that simple. In reality, either the Govt pays everyone's rent (economically crippling) or they mandate that landlords simply can't charge rent... In that instance, the entire housing market collapses. The housing market collapses, the economy in general goes with it.

[@rocco5791]

When did he say that?

[@johnny5731]

@@rocco5791 Skip to 30 seconds and listen.

[@purts2]

@@johnny5731 80million people who become homeless because they can't pay rent cripples the economy too.

[@rocco5791]

@@johnny5731 Still can't hear it

[@MichealQuinm]

I feel like Micheal knowles just got a printer and really wants us to know.

[@ilmaritaipale5469]

True

[@Theviewerdude]

I like Knowles but this is funny af lol

[@MichealQuinm]

@@Theviewerdude knolls fan 👎🏻🤢🤮. Please unlaugh at my joke.

[@mcguffindoe192]

I guess “the science” is only important when it benefits your side. The left is a religion now and you are a zealot

[@MichealQuinm]

@@mcguffindoe192 guess the science is only important when u print it out😩

[@remb9614]

How many points does this guy get to make without calling on Knowles to reply?

[@star-warsien]

exactly, they let him respond without letting Knowles follow up

[@CRWeaventure]

Make good points , get rewarded I guess 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@georgianav9727]

Mike.. Your lips are perfect.. I hate this tyrannical government.. Hope you the best!! I'm joining Daily Wire now..

[@jonathanwilliams1271]

5:12 "Michael that was in May! Hasn't it been updated since then?" 😀 "No it hasn't been updated" 😟

[@ba2.0T]

The host wanted so bad to catch Michael slipping up 😂

[@xijinping3317]

Lmfao

[@justinnamuco9096]

He looks like Joel Osteen

[@reinhardtzumbe3284]

10:28 "if I am mandated to pick up my chinese food" LMAO XDD

[@chayo9548]

Lol that was awesome.

[@theLanceInPants]

...? That's literally every roofed establishment. You hogs okay?

[@aomorgancool1775]

@Shy Brotha Speaks believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved. For God so loved the world that he sent his one and only son and whoever believes in him shall not die but have eternal life. If you trust that Jesus' death on the cross has payed the penalty for your sin you will have eternal life. There is nothing anyone can do to earn heaven, only Jesus can save a person from eternity in hell. You may be persecuted for putting your trust in Jesus but take heart, for anything you lose for Christ on earth God will compensate you in heaven. Obey Christ if you choose Jesus because that is expected of every Christian.

[@dearsophronia]

@@aomorgancool1775 peepee poopoo

[@Chuck26814]

theLanceInPants That was his point

[@jonathanfoster4202]

And the right says that leftists are snowflakes😂😂

[@shauryadivya1736]

You gotta understand that everyone gets offended, that's human nature. It's what you do in response that matters. Since the mainstream right has taken the clearly stronger position on free speech, they may not like something but they will never ask for It's removal, for eg from college campuses which the left is famous for doing. Furthermore the left has gotten more snowflake like as they have gotten younger through the decades, while the right has gotten less snowflake mainly because of religion not being as dogmatic as intersectionality. Victim worship on left is more sacred than God worship on right.

[@danstan7274]

Yall cry about safe spaces then need turing point u asa (safe space) to pay college's to let republicans argue with kids insted of real pundits

[@shauryadivya1736]

@@danstan7274 what?? No one stops leftists to come into these so called conservative speakers' halls. Anyone can come. The fact that people riot in Berkeley even if the speaker is a centrists speaks volumes. Jon haidt talked about these people in the coddling of American mind. Also the mainstream left is not as soft, and neither is the right. I'm talking about college culture, and it will spill over into society over the next years.

[@danstan7274]

@@shauryadivya1736 you need million dollar donations and to make a whole orginization (safe space no matter how much you don't like it) to try and push your ideas when its your belief that ideas should succeed in the free marketplace of ideas L

[@travisanderson9094]

@@shauryadivya1736 no just lefties

[@aeryes2806]

The whole masks are effective thing aged well lmfao.

[@MadMackz]

didnt it. lmfao

[@martianproductions997]

My doctor used masks before the pndemic and still uses them now. I guess they must do something right? Think they do it to look cool?

[@MadMackz]

@@martianproductions997 Actually the masks are used to prevent the spread of blood and saliva based pathogens entirely, a maskj is going to do literally eff all for covid virus except kill your braincells via long term oxygen deprival and carbon monoxide poisooning, Never mind the fact that you are entirely retraining your bodies breathing function to an abnormal situation which has been found to aid the forming ofg sleep apnea as well as snoring.

[@angru_arches]

​@@martianproductions997the updated findings show that they didn't help with the virus...

[@ExPwner]

Repeating "empirical evidence" while bringing absolutely none to the table isn't an argument. It's like saying "trust the science!" It's utterly meaningless question begging.

[@RageDaug]

Trust the Science! - Oh, like all this science? No! not that actual science, by "science" I mean, "the stuff I say".

[@jl7619]

James, exactly what I was thinking. Knowles actually had an article and cited facts the CDC posted, Hasan kept saying he has empirical evidence yet showed nothing but lip service.

[@prettyflygamer]

@@jl7619 cdc article tht was way outdated wht are you talking about

[@TheRomanticsWB]

@@prettyflygamer And several proper studies have been done since that show Michael was right.

[@ajsegovia471]

And the host is biased. Sooooo🤷‍♀️

[@countotuscany7061]

He kept moving on before Michael could finish his say

[@saint.bambino]

biased towards facts?

[@joes7396]

Cade Tormanen because he was taking too long and taking out of his ass

[@Lemonintheye]

Bambino get some new material, the whole facts shtick is so old

[@griffinjg1]

@@joes7396 You're talking about Hasan, right?

[@dArThOvErLoRi]

Was this a debate or a Piker speech? Lol. Waste of time.

[@phxsisko]

So don't address what he actually said, just act butt-hurt. Do you require a safe space?

[@dArThOvErLoRi]

😂 good one

[@jackjon7763]

PHX-Sisko how can we address what he says when he talking for half an hour to knowles 2 minutes. That’s just piling on. A good debate has 1 topic. That topic is discussed. Not throwing 15 points into the debate and giving a party 15 seconds to respond to 15 points. Poker made several points that Michael clearly didn’t agree with and was disputing and the moderator wouldn’t let him respond to it. The moderator didn’t even hold piker off from making 15 points in 30 minutes and only gave knowels a couple minutes

[@chuckecheese5251]

@@jackjon7763 well Has when hes in trouble rambles hoping people will forget what they were talking about and just move on how anyone can consider his debate style as anything but ridiculous is beyond me but he does really well somehow with his fans

[@snakebebop]

@@phxsisko yet here you are acting butt-hurt without addressing what Lori said lol

[@jeremiah5430]

Michael's points aged really well. Can't say the same about Hasan.

[@NewbiPai]

Can you explain please?

[@jeremiah5430]

@@NewbiPai a lot of what he said particularly about lockdowns and masks have proven true multiple times over since the debate. Also, he pointed out how radical the democrat party was but were hiding it (supporting child drag shows and tween transition, congresspeople refusing to define a woman, proposed bans on 12 round pistol magazines and suggested 9mm ammunition ban etc.)

[@lawlztube]

@@jeremiah5430 go drink your coors light lmao

[@jalalasif3898]

@@jeremiah5430 Congrats. You have fallen hook, line and sinker for the most meaningless and utterly irrelevant topics of the day. Not one of the things you’ve listed are worth talking nor listening about. Poverty, homelessness, unemployment, stagnating wages, debt, failing infrastructure, lack of funding in public education, gun violence; you could’ve picked any one of the hundred different important topics, yet you chose the most asinine and meaningless political hill to die on.

[@liamparkos7830]

@@jeremiah5430 first of all child friendly drag shows are not morally wrong second of all the majority of democrats do not agree with those under the medical age of consent transitioning third of all a woman is a socially constructed set of arbitrarily decided roles expectations behaviors and appearances and lastly I disagree with the ban

[@PittsburghSonido]

"At the very least he should continue the press briefings" - Knowles Oh, how correct he was.

[@HRPFayetteville]

He says biden is deteriating cognitively yet he hopes he's our president?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤪🤪🤪🤪

[@justindriscoll1844]

He knows 100% that he will vote for Biden just to get Trump out. He doesnt care about the country. He just wants Trump out of the White House.

[@nicememe8416]

Justin Driscoll maybe, just maybe, those two things go together

[@fari123]

His position is that if he has to choose between trump and biden he will choose biden. He's actually a Bernie supporter.

[@stevenphillips6127]

It's a sympathy vote. Hasan can relate.

[@zzkkkrjjeeeii]

@@justindriscoll1844sounds delusional to me

[@marcusbeck1269]

It was shown on the very video that they said didn’t show badges actually showed badges. And they are federal officers and they operate in all of the United States.

[@ellobodiablo4274]

"they can only operate on federal ground" when in the history of forever has that ever been a rule xD

[@bridgetbogan1670]

Hush, hush. You're screwing up the leftist narrative! *whispers* bigot... 😉

[@Marc-gj9vx]

Watching that a few years later, seems like Michael Knowles was right.

[@salvi92]

Did we watch the same video how delusional are you??

[@Liam1536]

I disagree

[@swaylikesmusic]

nope

[@InnocentAlaska]

True MK has truth on his side so kinda wins by default

[@Liam1536]

@@InnocentAlaska Michael Knowles is a conservative so he would be on the opposite side of truth since his ideology is contradictory to reality

[@susee4133]

Elex is clearly biased 🤷‍♀️

[@Duranchula35]

and emotional. poor little guy

[@hekskey]

No kidding. That was pretty ridiculous.

[@VVeremoose]

Welcome to being a conservative. The entirety of the political institution, including its subsidiaries in the media and academia are arrayed against you

[@harislesmana9508]

dont worry after civil war begin and libtard get beat up that reporter will kiss ass conservative again

[@VVeremoose]

@@RustyFruit I don't agree with Knowles on masks, though I tend to agree with him on most things. But I don't care if he's saying that masks give you the ghey, it's not the moderator's position to take a side. He's there to facilitate the debate. There are rules to this kind of thing. Even in an informal setting.

[@emilypalmieri9268]

Lmfaooo knowles’ face when Hasan complemented his studio 😭😭😂😂

[@letsfreakinggoguys]

time stamp?😭😭

[@aomorgancool1775]

@@letsfreakinggoguys believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved. For God so loved the world that he sent his one and only son and whoever believes in him shall not die but have eternal life. If you trust that Jesus' death on the cross has payed the penalty for your sin you will have eternal life. There is nothing anyone can do to earn heaven, only Jesus can save a person from eternity in hell. You may be persecuted for putting your trust in Jesus but take heart, for anything you lose for Christ on earth God will compensate you in heaven. Obey Christ if you choose Jesus because that is expected of every Christian.

[@anontill5302]

@@aomorgancool1775 What if you're wrong?

[@beastmode-vc6kk]

@@anontill5302 nothing will happen, if your wrong you will have to answer

[@anontill5302]

@@beastmode-vc6kk So your philosophy is believe a mysterious book (any of them) and live your life accordingly, just in case even if it means finding out it was a lie?

[@18SchabergRafe]

Elex: :D Michael: :D Hasan: :|

[@Thaijler]

Haasan puts to much credence on government policy when there are multiple conflicting studies that have been silenced because they don't fit a political agenda.

[@antoniopatricio8760]

true

[@Bmanritchie]

Name two ‘conflicting studies’ from universities during 2020 regarding healthcare.

[@Thaijler]

@@Bmanritchie Mask efficacy, ivermectin, natural immunity.

[@Bmanritchie]

@@Thaijler - Let me rephrase: TWO DIFF UNIVERSITIES that have CONFLICTING results using the SAME METHODOLOGY about ONE ASPECT of healthcare. Put up or shut up.

[@Thaijler]

@@Bmanritchie Ok let me rephrase what I said. There are studies that go against the left wing media narrative. Did you consider the fact that 2 "approved" drug companies had varying results with vaccine efficacy? Your agrument has an innate bias built in to it. Thats like saying name 2 studies from the 60s conducted by tobacco companies that prove cigarettes are bad.

[@margo3c541]

00:00 gentermen

[@keonideinhardt]

Hassan: "blah blah blah Trump bad" for 10 minutes straight. Moderator: "Micheal, your response " Micheal: "Well" Moderator: "Ok, that's enough."

[@KaeBae_]

This is the most accurate comment ever. 😂

[@CaBdosdos]

The blahs are facts and logic and Knowles responds with his anecdotal feels.

[@KaeBae_]

CABdosdos it’s obvious that you’re biased because that’s not at all what happened in this entire interview. If people can’t at least try to objectively look at a debate and analyze it without allowing their own jaded perception of reality to stranglehold the actual truth, then we’re in very serious danger.

[@keonideinhardt]

@@CaBdosdos No the sjw just responded with lies and mistruths that the moderator didn't even allow Knowles to respond too. Only case you could make about Knowles is the whole facemasks situation in which I understand where Knowles is coming from. Inconsistencies within what the CDC has said and done are quite telling. It's to the point where a good chunk of Americans don't even trust them anymore.

[@CaBdosdos]

@@keonideinhardt Funny you missed the part where Hasan (sjw soyboy libcuck) called Knowles out for referring to CDCs 3 month old release statements and not the up to date consensus on Corona treatment and awareness. Its almost like Knowles came up with his conclusion then has to try desperately to back pedal and reaffirm it. Btw just so you know he's a failed actor so I would never take any argument put forth by him in good faith. Bonus point....we leftist soyboys come up with our conclusions as the facts present themselves thats why we are justified in our disgust in Trump when just minutes ago he told a extremely dangerous lie that children are practically immune to this Virus.

[@benblount280]

“Generman welcome”

[@marseille1196]

This is actually embarrassing for Hasan and anyone who thought he won considering the current situation. How right Micheal was…

[@sharpe52312]

I only made it a minute in before I almost lost my mind. Yes, I’m sure the big mistake is that we didn’t spend enough money during the pandemic on stupid left wing agenda items.

[@chucknorris3752]

@Europa What Hassan said worked for basically every other country on earth including here in Canada (even adjusting per capita and looking at similar pop density regions like Toronto, Vancouver, etc). The reason it’ll never work for the Divided states of America is because you have lizard men politicians who politicized a fucking virus, so half your population is in denial complaining on alt news platforms like KZbin and the other half is over bearing and hypocritical smiling and nodding at sensationalist news reporting - eliminating any hope your country has at a reasonable solution achieved through mutual cooperation. Get vaccinated and drop lockdowns. Increase the variety of vaccines to include older more tested styles (like recombinant protein) to decrease hesitancy, and for fuck sakes get that anti-viral pill that Merck invented on the market. That’s what/will work.

[@chucknorris3752]

Much love from Canada

[@Noobish_Camper55]

@@chucknorris3752 Have you seen Australia? They followed every insane leftist policy perfectly and now it has been under essentially martial law for months. No matter what mandate or right you strip you will never see 0 covid. Take responsibility for you own health and stop asking for others to be an adult for you.

[@chucknorris3752]

@Nathan Paske Australia has 62 deaths per million, the USA has 2400 deaths per million. Cases look even better, with a maximum of 300 per 100,000 in Victoria with five territories experiencing sub 50 per 100,000 numbers. In contrast with the USA, maximum is in North Dokata at 18,500 cases per 100,000 and 43 total states with numbers ranging between 10,000 and that maximum. I’d say those “insane leftist policies” might be at least partially responsible for this considering this per capita trend holds up even when accounting for population density.

[@ryzen1169]

5:21 bruh his face when knowles said that🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@rgarcia4412]

Who the heck is Elex Michaelson? First time I hear about this guy. Definitely not subscribing, lol. 🤣

[@makivelimike24]

Wait, Michael admitted the CDC evidence he provided was a lie. lol

[@notta8493]

@Liquid Eternity ah he kinda doubled down on it later multiple times... saying that 'i am listening to science, you see' *hold up papers*

[@monsieurmitosis]

It’s interesting to watch these conversations a year later. From my home in Melbourne, Australia, we remain in lockdown after 8 intermittent months of it out of just one year. I promise you, we cannot wear our masks or stay away from our loved ones or attend less social gatherings with a higher level of commitment than we already are. On top of that, we have 70% of people 16 and above “fully vaccinated” and case numbers are at record highs. At some point, we need to acknowledge that our medical overlords are not credible, not trustworthy, not competent, or a combination of the three.

[@vagabondwastrel2361]

You forgot the creepiest part. The requirement to write out where you are going and for how long when going for food etc.

[@monsieurmitosis]

@@vagabondwastrel2361 Well, I don't know anything about that. The cops appear to be stopping people and demanding answers to those questions, but I've never documented my movements in that way.

[@vagabondwastrel2361]

@@monsieurmitosis My buddy over there has to literally write out his predicted path and reason for leaving his home.

[@monsieurmitosis]

@@vagabondwastrel2361 For what reason? The government is making some ridiculous demands, there's no question about that, but even in Melbourne, the epicentre of this bullshit, I've never heard of anything like that. Does he have to travel back and forth from regional and metropolitan areas or something?

[@alecgarcia9196]

I just read an article on your town, looks like a third of the cases were caused by parties for the Football Grand Final. I have no idea how popular that is because I’m American but don’t you think that could be the cause for the spike? And then once they have it and return to their lockdown they spread it with who they live with?

[@indigoace261]

This was awesome! Great job moderating and sharing.

[@Wackaz]

He's a phenomenonal listener man fr

[@whitegoodman7465]

it was 2 vs 1 but ok..

[@TonyAncom]

Have Kyle Kulinski debate Michael Knowles and it would be a bloodbath. Hasan bested him, Kyle would be an absolute steam roll.

[@raymondbeiler7297]

Hasan looks a lot better now that he's hiding behind a teleprompter.

[@TonyAncom]

Lmao 50 bucks Knowles is the one doing that.

[@danielmadeson311]

Tony I agree, especially when he talks almost as fast if not faster than Shapiro at times!!!!

[@JC-ul7uc]

@Jeffrey Ambrosia ? Cause he's in front of a computer? Lol

[@JC-ul7uc]

@Jeffrey Ambrosia yeah cause he doesn't have a studio setup...

[@witfurd1034]

PepeLa :point_right: :basketball:

[@xyphrowner6217]

Where the fuck did all these conspiracy nuts in the comment sections come from lololol.

[@yvonnelee4385]

You think masks work? You’re the conspiracy nut 😂

[@buddybrax]

The CDC came out and said that the standard masks weren't effective. Whichever side you look at it from, America only took half measures. In reality the country was never able to control Covid and never would be, because too many take their "freedoms" to the extreme, even in the face of a deadly virus. As long as Americans can carry a rifle and cough on people during a pandemic, they will do so to prove they are the "freest" country in the world.

[@MustangFord]

the alex jones zombies have awoken half of their brain and are starting to spread more misinformation as expected

[@knuckleheadX98]

Never seen so many simps for Chunk's nephew in one place before.

[@joebusten6903]

-Hurt

[@Mich-jk2ze]

@@joebusten6903 not really, just laughing our way through yenk’s nephew’s idiocy

[@gmx5051]

And Michael Knowels was right..8 months later.

[@keenankhater8148]

About what?

[@CarlosPerez-kc4rc]

@@keenankhater8148 the effectivity of masks and lockdowns

[@keenankhater8148]

@@CarlosPerez-kc4rc well yeah, the lock down lasted 4 months because people were ignoring it. A lockdown won’t work if people don’t lock down.

[@jamk2668]

@@CarlosPerez-kc4rc But all the evidence says otherwise? You simply just take the more extreme example and use it as a principle.

[@Zen-t2j]

@@jamk2668 what the fuck are you talking about? WHAT evidence? All the randomly controlled trials state the opposite: that masks have marginal effect. There's STILL spikes on covid, because guess what? It's not going anywhere just like the flu isn't. It's been TWO years and some places have only recently lifted mask mandates like last year. How the fuck have you still not woken up after all this time? I'd love to see evidence that masks were actually effective

[@brandons2825]

Who the F is this "reporter" he clearly has a dog in the fight

[@TheChuckNorrisinator]

Or he just has common sense considering knowles arguments were pretty weak and disingenuous

[@zxSwifty]

Knowles said nothing of substance in this entire video

[@rickysimmonds2681]

b he also gave studies that show masks and social distancing helps silly. You are strawmanning and wrong. Let me know when you get sick of being wrong all the time and we can get you caught up on the right side of history.

[@zxSwifty]

@b he presented one study from 3 months ago. The problem with conservatives is that they cherry pick studies to focus on. They find the one study that supports what they say no matter how out dated it is and rant about that. Imperial evidence supports hasans side not Knowles.

[@marcofavro7050]

Michael’s comments have aged like fine wine.

[@bentolinmaddox9806]

The other guys comments have aged like organic lettuce accidentally left in the vegetable crisper while you went on vacation

[@corbinsmith6777]

Michael knowles: you’re more honest about your beliefs than most lefties Hasan: you’re studio is nice. Is that all he has Nice to say to Michael?

[@labtechsuperstar]

It's typical left-tard behaviour. I think Michael deserves a medal for not laughing out loud at some of the idiotic things Hasan said. I was laughing to be sure.

[@mynewchanel]

@@labtechsuperstar lmao knowles is such a hack. Cherrypicking everything

[@EJ-jx9te]

@@labtechsuperstar lol I thought the left was supposed to be the triggered ones. Why do I always see right wingers so offended and emotional when ever leftist treat them the same way they treated the left during the massive anti-sjw era that dominanted KZbin from 2015-2018. I guess a taste of your own medicine is bit bitter lol

[@labtechsuperstar]

@@EJ-jx9te But God help the right winger who commits any kind of "micro-aggression". Then they can look forward to having their lives ruined by over-sensitive, spineless, special snowflakes who blow everything out of proportion. I don't need a safe-space. Do you?

[@EJ-jx9te]

@@labtechsuperstar lol quite ironic you comment that when Hasan litterally almost got cancelled completely because a bunch of right wing snowflakes who took an old comment of his out of context and spent weeks crying over it on the internet. But yes I agree we should get rid of safe spaces. Maybe we should start with the conservative churches and bring scientists in to tell them how Creationism is wrong and Evolution is true and how they believe in fairy tales. And we should go the south and tell them they are uneducated idiots who don't understand human sexuality for example and provide Scienctific research they hate. Because screw all safe spaces right? Lol it's so hilarious to talk to right wingers about safe spaces when you guys have so many that no one bothers. I'm starting to believe that the only safe spaces you guys hate are the ones that lean left.

[@davidmunoz9421]

Hasan DESTROYS Micheal knowsnothing

[@Luna-ic6ke]

Patriot Spring ???????

[@Luna-ic6ke]

Patriot Spring I mean in what way did Hasan not take the w in this debate.

[@manaiajbarns]

Svobsi HasL Our streamer

[@hellstormangel]

@Patriot Spring Stay triggered loser

[@VictorLopez-qm5kz]

Isn't Michael Knowles from Daily Wire or something? All of those people are idiotic, they should have brought a conservative who could actually argue his points logically.

[@TheStrafendestroy]

The Portland part aged well now that the mayor is begging for the riots to stop.

[@itkojecockot]

yeah, funny how they never bring up how leftists stormed Portland's capitol :D:D

[@No-qu4ro]

@@itkojecockot ???? What the right literally stormed the capital they were let in what???? The alt right were let in the Oregon capital by a republican and now the republican who let them in is fired

[@itkojecockot]

@@No-qu4ro no, those were BLM protesters during clash with Proud Boys

[@No-qu4ro]

@@itkojecockot I’m talking about who went in the Portland capital that was the proud boys

[@crisbowman]

@@No-qu4ro Were they let in or did they threaten to break things if they were not?

[@dannyboy9848]

The crucial point is at 1:45 where both sides are dissatisfied with their gov...yet the gov just keeps the right and left at each other's throat

[@dankattack2405]

I love how dude said "Fauuci corrected himself.." Admitted that he lied would have been a bit better.. lolz

[@ItsmeEllis1]

yeah you’re so right scientists can’t look at new evidence and come to new conclusions when looking at different areas of effect e.g. looking at masks as protecting you from others vs others from you

[@dankattack2405]

@@ItsmeEllis1 I would love to think that purposely.. I'll say that again, purposely lying to the public is a scientific decision. I get it. to make sure those who needed it more had them. but this wasn't a scientific decision. I mean, sure, on a general level, but it wasn't, "we don't have enough masks." It was, "you don't need em." I'm sure after he looked back and scientifically had a change of heart he would say, "yeah.. need those those masks, guys. my bad." lol

[@lancelot0274]

@@ItsmeEllis1 I guess you don't understand what is going on. Fauci admitted that he told us that masks don't help because he said they were afraid there wouldn't be enough masks for nurses and doctors. That is an admitted lie. If he told us that "yes masks help but don't use them because we don't want hospitals to run out." That would have not been a lie. And the lie has nothing to do with science.

[@chad6738]

@@lancelot0274 so he admitted to lying. That's way hurts his credibility. I think he is being honest now, with the masks, but lying at all hurts his overall credibility. Which makes people not trust him.

[@mkmarak]

@@ItsmeEllis1 but it wasn't "new evidence" that made him change his tune though.

[@jondough3339]

Hasam: We have to follow the science Knowles: presents peer reviewed paper by “the science” Hasam: No that doesn’t count

[@chucknorris3752]

Well it was outdated and the CDC even refuted it after further investigation at the time of their debate which is the point he made. Michael only follows the science when it agrees with him.

[@chucknorris3752]

CDC: *publishes study* Months later, CDC: “after review and further experimentation we have come to the opposite conclusion” Michael: “im gonna ignore that and cite the first study anyways”

[@samuelmerkel2888]

@@chucknorris3752 But that's one of the points Michael makes. The CDC is posting huge, sweeping rules constantly, and then almost entirely reversing themselves only a few months later, sometimes only a few weeks later. Remember when Fauci said back in the day that children could catch aids, and even though that wasn't a consensus among the scientific community, the administration and health 'experts' ran with it anyways? 'The science' is rarely on anyone's side.

[@chucknorris3752]

@LeftyOmega20 Imagine thinking masks have equal effectivity for every virus. Why do you think their are clinical trials on the effectivity of masks for measles AND influenza? Effectivity of a cure or prevention measure is assed for each disease individually bud.

[@chucknorris3752]

@Samuel Merkel The differentiating ability between science and dogma is the ability of scientific consensus to completely U-turn in the face of stronger evidence. There was also a time when the science said masks would stop transmission up to 99% based on data from other respiratory diseases. Now we know it’s between 30-50% which is why social distancing, etc are in play now. Also Fauci is a clown who literally speaks in dogma. He is for the uneducated American masses who never went to university and can’t access peer reviewed articles through their institution or pirate them in scihub (which you should do because it only effects the billion dollar journal companies bottom line which has profit margins larger than amazon, not the scientist). I don’t live in America, and therefore give 0 fucks what Fauci says. He is not a practicing career scientist or doctor. He is a politician with a degree. Like Rand Paul.

[@luciddreamworks]

I love Michael trying so hard not to laugh

[@requilish4839]

Imagine hassan saying "On top of the hour every hour there is a 60sec adbreak......." 🤣