Hasan Piker vs Gianno Caldwell on "The Issue Is: with Elex Michaelson"

[@aelphind4954]

MY MAN GOT OWNED BY A TWITCH STREAMER

[@aelphind4954]

@@hunter5340 *you're

[@lorcancullen5840]

@@hunter5340 yet you can’t use you’re properly

[@오리-b2m]

@@hunter5340 .... “come up with something better like an educated point.” Like you did? Where is it? All you did was say “your uneducated” is that any better? How do you make a counter point to an argument that was never made? Afghan 💀💀

[@hardy7291]

@@hunter5340 Damn bro, is your memory really that bad, I mean it's right in front of you. You didn't call Hasan uneducated, you called him uneducated. Didn't make a single point as into why. The Irony in calling someone out for not making a counter to your non existing talking points is a joke. Also Ironic calling someone uneducated while proceeding to show signs of a poor educational background yourself. While I agree in most cases when someone attacks grammar instead of the argument it shows they have no counter, you arguable done the exact same thing by making a vague insult without giving any reason behind it. You insulted him without making an argument, then he insulted you back. For example when @meep actually asked you to explain yourself you completely ignored him and instead followed the easier route of arguing over nothing. Hypocritical thinking at its finest.

[@myne5689]

@@hunter5340 Jesus christ you're stupid

[@ElGord0Supreme]

"Do you think 500,000 Iraqi civillians deserved to die?" "I'm an American and proud of it." I don't think there's a worse answer to that question.

[@viech7595]

I was crying of laughter at that point xD

[@DJsocial7102]

Maybe something like "I'd kill them all myself" but other than that... yeah thats probably the worst.

[@missardeur3731]

and that's the same man who cried about that 9/11 comment 5 seconds before that, saying fuck your politics, those people did not deserve to die DOES HE NOT SEE THE IRONY

[@Theworldisfullofmonsters]

Exactly. Dude is trash. Fighting for the team that’s actively trying to stop people who look like him from voting.

[@ZapPack]

lmao yeah, not a good look xD

[@FermionBecProductions]

Gianno.. you took the struggles you went through as a black man and weaponized them for a political party that uses you as a marketing prop. That's absolutely disgusting.

[@marufubi]

It's sad

[@FermionBecProductions]

@@marufubi and he handles debating the way they do. Incoherent and charged up.

[@sometimesidontunderstand0029]

Well said this guy is dancing act for his political party

[@TheVinc123]

A successful black man, yup he is so oppressed, give me a fucking break, go to africa as a white man and you will see what real oppression is

[@SA-be9pi]

@@TheVinc123 That is like saying since LeBron is successful that means he cant be racially oppressed in a country where black people have been oppressed for over 200 years by the majority ( White people.) Just because you are successful does not mean you cant be racially oppressed.

[@ishaansharma8215]

“Is this the best Fox news has to offer” was brutal

[@WhatIsMyPorpoise]

Yeah holy shit. The derision in Hasan’s voice was deadly. Where the shapiro crowd at. They love this shit.

[@mondo_4_real]

not really bro in a civil conversation you say an insult like that to get the pressure of you when you choke. destroy with facts not roasts 💪🏽🇺🇸

[@invividcolor]

@@mondo_4_real I mean, Hasan is definitely winning the entire time, but pop off

[@AshiwiZuni]

@@mondo_4_real as hasan stated, civility isnt a consideration for him when having a conversation. So whats your point again?

[@mondo_4_real]

@@AshiwiZuni no point. just merely a rebuttal to the man who thinks it was brutal. it just shows the maturity hasan has as a man

[@saumyasrivastava8363]

Gianno: What did we do to deserve 9/11? Hasan: Great question Begins to answer, speaks barely a sentence Gianno: We are Americans

[@kenken1704]

😂😂😂

[@radMisc]

"WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY!!!"

[@naoexistimos777]

It was 'equilavent' to terrorism, okay?

[@naoexistimos777]

No one is condoning it, and Hasan was explaining exactly that. The fact is that the US armed and trained these groups to be used as murder puppets for their imperialist political reasons and when the goalpost changed a terrorist organization was formed - if you want to ignore that what the US wanted them to do in the first place was already terrorism and that they also run a giant terrorist organization called the US Army. That sentence was hyperbolic and taken out of context. No innocent citizens deserve to die because some fuckos disagree politically, but that's what the US have been doing for centuries in another countries.

[@hi-rr4wf]

@@naoexistimos777 The entire time, Hasan couldn't simply just say... "I shouldn't have said that." or "America didn't deserve 9/11.". That alone is good enough for me to hate the dude. How dare he insinuate that we, even in the slightest, deserved those attacks.

[@c.j.8194]

"Do you think 500.000 Iraqi civilians deserved to die?" "I'm an American and proud of it" Lol

[@luke_222]

Bruh his whole argument was "were americans so we shouldn't criticize our country"

[@uwuwu9]

His whole argument is based on 'America good cuz we the heroes' LMAO

[@DNKIRADNTNR]

Basically it’s OK if they did it

[@schwertmeister7650]

Btw we are American

[@sreshtwnk]

Tbh we dont give a fuck

[@xkrushe]

I especially love how they immediately open the debate by giving Gianno praise and then condemning Hasan for a clip taken out of context

[@Azrael.777]

It was in context, he's a dumbass; accept it.

[@xkrushe]

@@Azrael.777 it's very much out of context. I also think he proved he's not a dumbass by making a major conservative commentator resort to personal attacks in a debate

[@Azrael.777]

Neanderthal Person AHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[@xkrushe]

@@Azrael.777 haha. Caps = funny haha. Look at everyone laughing man. You're absolutely hilarious. I bet you think Trump is a great person and that Epstein did nothing wrong

[@Spencerwalker21]

@@Azrael.777 oh no you're offended poor dear maybe Glenn beck is more your speed.

[@degrassi420]

Half of this dude’s strategy is going “Huh???” “What???!!!??” whenever hasan makes a good point

[@taytay1597]

Lmao truuu dude is a joke

[@svenpegels39]

I mean of course, he's not used to hearing good points being surrounded by republicans all the time

[@melontunna5064]

Maybe he literally doesnt understand

[@AlexisRodriguezLopez-s3y]

You clearly weren’t paying attention to the conversation

[@btmydoc5293]

@@AlexisRodriguezLopez-s3y ok mommy

[@lmaoqasim]

Hasan: *speaking truth and giving facts* Other dude: *yelling = right* Host: :)

[@johnP0908]

"I'M An aMeRicAN!!!"

[@LazyDev27]

Well Hasan did say he wasn't here to be civil.

[@BruhWhyDidTheyChangeThis]

@Andrea MENDENHALL what did Gianno say that was anything but opinion and virtue signaling “I am an American” okay???

[@BruhWhyDidTheyChangeThis]

@Andrea MENDENHALL you and I both know what Hasan meant. You are simply choosing to be outraged for virtue signaling. You’re trying to assume the moral high ground in the argument rather than having anything of substance to say as a response.

[@BruhWhyDidTheyChangeThis]

@Andrea MENDENHALL are you a snowflake or something? If your whole argument is he was insensitive, okay I’m sorry you feel that way. Gianno had nothing to say besides the same thing. Your feelings being hurt isn’t an argument.

[@captencollin8753]

As a veteran, Hasan’s 9/11 comment will never bother me.

[@chinesegovernmentofficial2]

Based

[@morals-R-life]

Word!!!

[@pan-semitistcommunist4181]

Anyone with half a brain whos ever been near a combat zone wouldn't be bothered by it. If you know you know.

[@merpaderp.___.4648]

My dad is a first responder to the tragedy, and is currently undergoing expensive medical treatment (that we can't afford) to treat its side effects including severe memory loss and persistent tumors. All this, yet I have to agree with Hasan. And all the right does is de-contextualize his points and say he is being anti american. Infuriating

[@pan-semitistcommunist4181]

@@merpaderp.___.4648 McCarthyism is a bitch. I still have scars on my ribs and left arm from when a pizza shop I was walking by in Jerusalem was suicide bombed and blew out the windows right at me. I was almost a victim of terrorism, but i have enough perspective to understand that everybody is the hero of their story, and one mans terrorist is a other mans freedom fighter.

[@EmI-kt5dq]

Why did they instantly criticize hasan? They literally set him up to look bad

[@calamity6233]

Hasan's comeback was pretty cool though, pointing out that the statement was taken out of context. Putting that at the start of the debate--or whatever this is, I'm new sorry--, helps clear misconceptions on Hasan early on, so the audience can understand what Hasan really meant.

[@alanax2]

Nah he looked badass. They totally got butchered

[@bourgsen8601]

Handicapped Hasan bc Gianno needed it lol

[@yosh2248]

Even then, he still made it on top of almost every argument. Mad respect

[@istanformarzipan]

well it is a Fox Network News affiliate

[@mysticalbeast5377]

Hasan: **making a statment** Gianno: where are the facts to support that? Hasan: **Starts giving facts** Gianno: **panics and tries to talk over him to stop him**

[@thatpandaz6094]

Fr, it would be nice to hear Hasan talk for 5 seconds

[@godofhate4167]

Hamas Piker didn't say a single fact my dude. Not a single one lmao

[@mysticalbeast5377]

@godofhate4167 this was over 2 years . . .

[@godofhate4167]

@@mysticalbeast5377 And Hasan is still a piece of shit supporting Hamas. Imagine justifying literal terrorists. Wouldn't be me.

[@benedictk7338]

Dude American politics have literally moved so far right, that my dude Gianno thinks unions will somehow be bad for the labor force. As a European person I'm just baffled lol.

[@Azrael.777]

You europeans are always baffled.

[@window8995]

@@Azrael.777 yeah, cuz American politics are so unnecessarily complicated and yall are making a fool of urselves.. left and right

[@Xeonaa]

@@Azrael.777 Baffled because the USA wants to pretend to be a developed country without putting any effort into social systems to help its own citizens. Every attempt gets bogged down in left vs. right nonsense. As it turns out, your big GDP can't buy an educated, healthy society, unfortunately.

[@Azrael.777]

Xeonaa Go arrest some more people for saying mean words.

[@avet4952]

@@Azrael.777 oh god here's the salty American

[@benettlee81]

Hasan’s laugh is such a weapon

[@yolo-vl4wz]

he's so fine too 😩

[@kittengrimoire]

@@yolo-vl4wz he got away with it againe😩

[@captainxanet4043]

@@kittengrimoire Hasmods Hasmods Hasmods Hasmods

[@CockSucker_2000]

4:18 hahaha ok...

[@lakersfansince1991]

You weirdos are all about vanity and looking of sounding cool rather than logic. This clown is a “communist” who just bought a multimillion dollar house in the Hollywood Hills.

[@masonjh1103]

“Is this the best Fox News has to offer?” is straight fire

[@BruhWhyDidTheyChangeThis]

Sounds like Achilles in Troy

[@boputime4130]

I wasnt there, but I felt the line incoming after Giano's prior statement.

[@steggyweggy]

@Louise Louise no he isn’t but he’s sharper than the best Fox News has to offer

[@siljamolstad9118]

I read this exactly as he said it lmao

[@Copaceticbuddha]

@Louise Louise he's not and he admits he isn't

[@itslife1399]

I love how hasan is stating facts and giving statistics etc and the other guy is just saying shit like "If you believe it" Okay sit down naruto

[@ezthehagg]

LMFAO 😭😭😭

[@LuKas-iw3xj]

Can’t believed you called him N like that

[@sin9346]

@The Dude calling someone ben shabibo, the biggest insult of all

[@sin9346]

@The Dude Liking your own comments? Cringe. Bro you've gotta wait longer than a minute before doing it. Also the fact that you know his slang-- lmao

[@sin9346]

@The Dude not every video lol, just find it interesting that you're a loyal hasan fan

[@itellyouaboutstuff]

Hasan: drops a fact Gianno: so you hate America.

[@franktranks9445]

I guess you could so Hasan debated with logic and facts while Gianno debated with emotion and personal views.

[@notphilosophical]

Reminds me of the Family Guy Hannity and Colmes cutaway where a Fox news personality only repeats the phrase "You Hate America"

[@artourr]

yikes

[@seanslaysean7097]

You know so what if I hate America, that’s cause it’s broken-I want it fixed

[@artourr]

@@seanslaysean7097 not as broken as most countries tho

[@BarberJ95]

“We’re Americans!” That’s totally the attitude that helped lead to all these disasters.

[@Johnny-Cage]

You mean war crimes

[@benisjamin6583]

Can you explain to me how an enthusiastic factual statement of our country of origin lead to the deaths of 2,977 innocent people on 9/11? Because I thought it was due to an insane extremist terrorist organization from another country who wanted to "create an Islamic state called a caliphate across Iraq, Syria and beyond," (CNN). But you seem to think it was Americans' fault for proclaiming their country of origin too openly.

[@arjunkrishnagiri]

@@benisjamin6583 Ya know I wonder why 9/11 happened. Maybe because the US just randomly decided to go to Saudi Arabia and take all their resources and then enraged a bunch of Islams who hated superpowers stealing THEIR resources and they decided to retaliate back including against the Soviets too. Hmm?

[@benisjamin6583]

​@@arjunkrishnagiri In Osama bin Laden's "Letter to America," he doesn't state taking Saudi resources as any of the top 5 motives for the attack. Not quite sure where you got that inclination. Also, 'taking oil unjustly' does not equal 'We're Americans.' You're giving an entirely unrelated explanation. The original comment seemed to suggest that if Americans didn't outwardly express their country of origin enthusiastically (or held no enthusiasm for their country), then 3000 random, innocent people wouldn't have died to the hands of an Islamic extremist organization.

[@mostertrucks]

@@benisjamin6583 obviously just saying "we're Americans" doesn't lead to 9/11, but it suggests that Americans are the good guys. Sort of like "We're Americans. Any criticism of America is invalid because the Middle East has done worse." America deserves to be criticized in this case for the relentless attacks on the Middle East which many Americans turn a blind eye to. When Bin Laden retaliates with 9/11, the people saying "we're Americans" suggest that 9/11 was unprovoked and that America has done nothing to the Middle East in return. Simply saying "we're Americans" obviously doesn't warrant the 9/11 attack but the implication behind it defends the equally awful attacks that America has committed. Hasan and I and everyone on this planet agrees that 9/11 was devastating and awful, and no one is saying America deserved it. What we are saying is that America has committed similar atrocities to the Middle East which provoked Bin Laden and directly led to the attacks of 9/11.

[@Elbowmacaroni11913]

Anyone who thinks Hasanabi lost this debate might be to far gone.

[@anna....]

WE ARE AMERICANS!!!🦅🇺🇸

[@Elbowmacaroni11913]

@@anna.... 🧐

[@PeyloBeauty]

@@Elbowmacaroni11913I’m sure Anna is trolling. Right?..

[@carn1fex_]

@@anna.... are you dense?

[@lukas-po8yn]

​@PeyloBeauty pretty sure he was referencing what gianno kept saying during the 9/11 part.

[@0siris319]

Real title: Fox gives Gianno an advantage in the beginning of the debate but Gianno still gets SLAMMED by Hassans facts

[@calccalccalc]

naah, sounds like a bunch of trite right clickbait.

[@DOXMER]

What facts hasan did so bad in this vid

[@never-walk-alone]

@@DOXMER no he didn’t

[@DOXMER]

@Ryan Kegglly your biased,or could say missinformed Hassan we all love him but his stands and most points, are miss info he's not educated and the fact everyone loves him most his fans, or anybody from twitch knows Hassan for some sort of intellectual political god of twitch so itsss by nature everyone automatically goes to him for example the election, but hes on the wrong side and that most of twitch, auto went to him is horrible , its like a school with a bias teacher /CNN vibes

[@DOXMER]

@Ryan Kegglly he came off as more reasonable and rational thats the definition of a leftist,,,,,, who use emotion and loud voice to prove their points across/ he could sound more reasonable but that's the fucking trap my ddude, in this vid, Gianno had too use a louder and louder voice because one of hassan tactics is, who ever louder /more reasonable what people wanna hear=leftist Hassan

[@jayncoclassic]

Disturbed he wants an apology without actually intellectually engaging with the issue. What a little baby

[@-chloe-8728]

exactly. and yet leftists are the ones characterized as easily offended snowflakes.

[@ladiwaddell989]

-chloe- ikkkkk.

[@katnew155]

right he pretty much said fuck the substance then kept repeating the same talk points

[@D.Alchemy]

Because he sympathises with terrorist?????

[@pepto-bismolultra7127]

@@D.Alchemy dude wtf are you talking about? Hasan is saying that America helped in creating those terrorist organizations, which killed thousands, through gross foreign policy (which is an indisputable fact) therefore America deserved the outcome that it created for itself by causing the murder of thousands of innocent middle easterners. on top of that, the US military kills thousands of innocent middle easterners today without any justification as a result of a terror attack THAT THEY CAUSED. people (mostly middle easterners) have died for years because of this stupid pointless war that would’ve never happened if not for Americans awful foreign policy all of those years ago. you only care about death when it’s American but most likely you don’t care about death when it’s middle eastern citizens and that really sucks. come back to this debate in 6 months when you read some philosophy and realize that your morals are fucked. be consistent and remember all life is equal in value

[@dallasmarshall4317]

As a black person i think gianno is a absolute sell out for exposure

[@mrwoman4843]

Damn

[@virusDETECTED]

Yep

[@_Hoodie]

Nah

[@cassandra6315]

1000%

[@bradycrowson]

his backstory seems fabricated aswell to get sympathy

[@RyptCripper]

Every time a republican realizes Hasan doesn't do party politics they fall apart faster than a range rover

[@babblingmongoose]

Average Hog: BUT BUT BUT WHAT ABOUT THE DEMOCRATS? Hasan: Yeah they suck too, but they demonstrably suck less than y'all, so it's easier to push them to actually be useful. What was that gotcha you were trying to make again?

[@godofhate4167]

Hamas Piker doesn't have a single brain cell so, debating with him is like trying to convince a child to stop using his crap as a crayon lmao

[@coughcoughman3194]

"Is this the best Fox has to offer" shall forever be yesssss

[@casuallyburning8456]

9:38 I read that as I heard Hasan laugh. IT WAS GOLDEN

[@kylebatchelor8332]

Whos the best CNN has? or Msnbc? 😂😂

[@fuckamericanidiot]

@@kylebatchelor8332 Fox has Tucker Carlson, but CNN has..........I don't know what does CNN have again?

[@RyanHaha101]

Gluemonkey wait are you saying Tucker Carlson is a GOOD representative for Fox??

[@kylebatchelor8332]

Ryan Belliveau Yes he is Good, but you think hes not because your brainwashed by mainstream media

[@hyperchocobo]

Gianno Caldwell "Hold on let me finish" all the while interrupting Hasan every chance he gets ridiculous.

[@zoobify112]

Lmao i saw hasan smirk a little bit when he said that and I knew he was thinking exactly what you said

[@AlecWyld]

Well Hasan is literally the king of interrupting people so about time he tasted some of his own medicine lmao.

[@noturs136]

LMAO HES SO ANNOYING

[@kylebatchelor8332]

Hassan does not stop talking through the whole debate dude... even when Gianno tries to combat his point, Hassan talks right over him right when hes going to say something he doesnt like😂 I mean come on, dont sit here and call Gianno the bad guy when he gives Hassan a taste of his own medicine, Hassan is known for doing that shit, every debate, he just talks over people and makes his point 30 min long so he can run the clock. classic

[@jadakiss98682]

I like where Hasan's head is at, but his weakness is that he's just not articulate enough to navigate through political debate. He should be destroying this guy's awful points, but he just kind of fumbles into decent points here and there. There's gotta be better people representing these argument than Hasan.

[@thefelicits]

Who is that clown? He asked questions then just yelled over the answers. Pathetic. Hasan is a rare voice of reason

[@Azrael.777]

LOL

[@solidsnake81184]

It's the fox news mantra to yell over anyone with a different view. Especially if they're backing those views with facts.

[@ladiwaddell989]

MstrFster and talk fast and use big words they don’t understand

[@Elp99t]

Angel Of Death I’ve seen you in 4 different comment threads so far , literally making a fool of yourself. U r one sad little man

[@Azrael.777]

Rabbi Conduit If only that was true.

[@dulce_247]

Gianno’s eyes look lifeless whenever he stage smiles. He knows he’s a sell out lmfao

[@OR1000N]

Dude legit scared me when the camera first cut to him wtf

[@weetdoog]

@@OR1000N RIGHT IT WAS SO FUNNY WTF WAS THAT SMILE

[@fbi10]

Sell out to what exactly ?? Your leftist propaganda? Oooh ok 👍

[@weetdoog]

@@fbi10 KSKEJDKSKSKS

[@olivergreen3913]

@@fbi10 what- A sell out to other Black Americans. I think the last line Hasan says on this show really sums it up.

[@when.the.pawn.]

I love how while Hasan was spitting facts, Gianno was kinda just shaking his head and talking over him; not really responding at all.

[@Azrael.777]

"Facts" ahahahahahahahahaha

[@Lightningkuriboh]

@@Azrael.777 i mean, they were facts lol and if they weren't your right wing hack here didn't even respond

[@Azrael.777]

Gus Fring Ahahahahahahh

[@user-eo2cf2xr2d]

Nice pfp

[@when.the.pawn.]

@@user-eo2cf2xr2d lmao thanks

[@hafeezhamama9580]

Bringing up his uncle isn't an argument lol. So stupid.

[@MrMalcolm900]

It is if your going for cheap shots. You think its fair to say, "Oh you work for Fox News, therefore you have no credibility" was that a fucking good argument to you?

[@vonzipper2712]

It is if you say that the right wing is behind you receiving blow back for the 911 comments...

[@Spencerwalker21]

@@MrMalcolm900 yeah because fox news is a comedy show at this point lol

[@chuugummy975]

@@Jack-hd1cl Not to mention Hasan only made the Fox commentator jab after Gianno said it sounded like he got his numbers from The Daily Onion

[@dormantlime215]

@@Jack-hd1cl PLUS, bringing up Hasan's uncle actually hurts his own argument, because then it turns in to making it clear Hasan wouldn't even apologize to HIS OWN UNCLE- so why would he think Gianno or anyone else should get one?

[@chelecovers6893]

Here is the context of what Hasan said: American foreign policy of policing the world and provoking and then arming combatant fighters all over the world is what led to 9/11 and instead of acknowledging that America used the tragedy to further more wars as american citizens keep voting for these policies. This is how Hasan feels America deserved 9/11 and I haven't heard any lies in what he said. Signed, a proud American born and raised.

[@kameela130]

Glad to know there are good americans out there

[@alibyte]

As a member of a family of vets, I agree. what do you expect if you spend 40+ years fucking over people in the Middle East?

[@harrisonwilliams8276]

As another born American, I absolutely agree. This country needs to get over itself and realize what we do in foreign countries actually has an impact on how they view us, and eventually the actions they take against us if we push them to such actions

[@gileee]

His argument sounded like "I'm an American and that means believing America never did anything wrong". Spoken by a black dude whose ancestors were enslaved.

[@chelecovers6893]

@@gileee such a juvenile grade school argument. "I'm a proud american, I can never believe america as a nation did anything wrong in it's entire existence" He needs to wake up and smell the military industrial complex.

[@ickyyucky7720]

Notice how Hasan lets Gianno get his point across before he starts his rebuttal but Gianno can't give that basic amount of respect back. Plus Gianno seems like he is only going in strictly with emotions and not many stats to back up his opinions. Hasan is backing up his views with facts while Gianno is not.

[@ronaldshartzer6142]

uhhhh not really but be blind to what you want i guess

[@pauvretori]

@@ronaldshartzer6142 this is the funniest shit you could have replied with

[@Mal1ily]

@@ronaldshartzer6142 did you not watch the fucking video? lmao

[@ronaldshartzer6142]

@@Mal1ily did you not? They both did it

[@Mal1ily]

@@ronaldshartzer6142 The only time Hasan did it was to ask Gianno if he could finish speaking since GIANNO kept interrupting him speaking nonsense. Educate yourself buddy.

[@adjustADC]

Hasan: Replies to the interviewer Gianno: *_ITS A FRAUD ITS A FRAUD ITS A FRAUD ITS A FRAUD_*

[@fletchwilliams5992]

HOW HOW HOW

[@marcopolo2437]

UNCLE UNCLE UNCLE UNCLE UNCLE UNCLE UNCLE UNCLE UNCLE UNCLE UNCLE UNCLE

[@unrealtrailers9370]

LET ME FINISH LET ME FINISH I WON'T LET YOU FINISH BUT LET ME FINISH

[@Berryylive]

@@marcopolo2437 lMAO

[@kenziehaigler4603]

sounds familiar these days

[@erikwsince1981]

I love how Gianno’s claim to fame is that he’s supported and praised by the biggest liars in society today.

[@MrMalcolm900]

Annnnnnnd Hasan's claim to fame is working for his Uncle. So whats your point?

[@sharann3482]

MrMalcolm900 they literally said that Hasan is seen by tens of million of People🤷‍♂️

[@persimmonss]

@@MrMalcolm900 i think more people know him from twitch now

[@woodenspoon6222]

@@MrMalcolm900 His claim to fame is being a legitimate asset in the success of his uncle's youtube channel. He was paid minimum wage and had a second job. Like, come on. Is that substantially worse than, "Some very specific people liked my book."

[@vonzipper2712]

Why is Hassan famous? His uncle is Cenk?

[@BARRACULA94]

"I'm An AmErIcAn!" - Some jingoistic conservative losing a debate

[@emrealbayrak4131]

haha so true! LOL

[@mbawg]

yea that isn’t an argument, just a feeling

[@JoeMcknart69]

virtue signaling

[@rushshahaiosifovg]

EXACTLY

[@zerowilde]

That guy thinks if keeps repeating that then maybe the KKK will eventually believe him 🤦‍♂️

[@Kamikazeman1234]

I love how Hasan was like "I said America deserved it, not Americans." and Gianno proceeded to base his "rebuttal" upon the exact opposite.

[@NATtelevision]

Can you explain to me how America deserving 9/11 can manifest itself in any other way than Americans being hurt? I mean America is a collection of Americans, and Gianna’s response to this I thought was actually good here. It is the equivalent of saying something like “Chicago deserves what’s happening to it because of its bad gun policies, but not Chicagoans”… it’s like yeah so how does that manifest in any other way than Chicagoans being affected?

[@teppichfliesestaubknauel5044]

@@NATtelevision Americans are Individuals or Smaller groups who didn‘t want to or endorsed the foreign politics of the US in the 90s from their own will and without populist interference. America is the system as a whole especially with the politicians and the overall system which led to this. So there is a big difference between America and Americans. Things done to a system obviously affects the people in the system and it can affect the system. Thats why its important that Hasan points out that Americans did not deserve it. And Even I came up with that by thinking for like 10 seconds over it as a non-American.

[@NATtelevision]

@@teppichfliesestaubknauel5044 And what you’ve come up with in your 10 seconds is garbage. The “thing” done to the system which you mention was in fact not done to any system at all. It was done to 3,000 innocent American civilians. It would be like saying in 1940 “well Germany deserves acts of war against civilians because the system is bad.” It’s like no it doesn’t… because you wouldn’t even be attacking the bad German system then. You would be attacking innocent German civilians.

[@NATtelevision]

@Disappointment Department “The American government should have seen it coming” is a statement I agree with, but one that is still far away even from “America’s government deserved 9/11”. And your simplistic cause-effect analysis ignores an incredible swath of Al Queda’s motivation. Yes there were foreign policy blunders… but “destabilized” supposes they were stable in the first place, they were able to train in regions that harbored terrorism that we hadn’t touched yet at that time, they were angered even by good US foreign policy such as recognition of Israel. Ultimately what Hasan clarified… that although Americans didn’t deserve to die, the American government deserved the attack on Americans… is still clearly a gross statement.

[@Funky_Brother]

​@@NATtelevision i believe it was meant more as "America brought this upon itself"

[@addghvsdxvbhgdxcbbgdxvbvcddd]

the guy literally did "you live in a society yet you criticize society" just amazin

[@AttorneyK]

"What Did American Do To Deserve 9/11?"

[@camc4242]

“Hey farmer you’re against global hunger right? Well then donate all your food to hungry people.”

[@window8995]

@@AttorneyK yeah thats wrong...but you just took it out of context

[@andrewlauder2777]

Ken Kusanagi 1988 you blew up an Iranian airlines flight killing every innocent person onboard. America needs to stop pretending you are great because you aren’t

[@lucaa.9709]

AAAAAMAAZIN

[@andrewjh]

If you're curious why Gianno seems so annoying, that is by design. Conservative argument model is about winning the debate in the eyes of the viewer, not the discussion or making a compelling argument, and Gianno is excellent in his execution. He doesn't make arguments or full points of his own. Rather, he allows Hasan to launch into the explanation of a point and then jumps in with something unrelated (we call this a strawman) and uses the offset commentary to try and disrupt Hasan (which doesn't work) but more importantly, *it confuses the viewer*. When you hear people use the phrase 'bad faith argument', this is a very good example of what they mean. Hasan is earnestly trying to express important issues and how he thinks we can best tackle them. Gianno not once offers a counterpoint with a solution from his side, because his motive isn't to tackle issues, it's to 'be outraged' and attempt to discredit Hasan. Tl;dr Conservatism is a disease.

[@ephemeral-xx]

👏👏👏

[@RolaiEckolo]

This is so emaculately worded. Like, legit mid-level thesis analysis. That's some good work right there for a comment section.

[@astromilk4426]

thank you for this

[@fcschizofrenie1682]

American conservatism*

[@ven-ety]

I've picked up on this, they think speaking over someone who is trying to answer the questions THEY'VE asked them and ignoring further clarification = intelligence

[@DitKa9er]

"I'm an America and I'm proud of it" is not a valid argument to make when debating foreign policy my guy.

[@justalostlocal]

Worse. It makes look him look like he believes his nationality gives him the right to trample all over people living in other countries bc he's better fir bein American or sth. Geez I wonder why ppl are wary of them or even hate these Americans, I wonder why.

[@mono-lg5vr]

@@justalostlocal that's literally the point

[@justalostlocal]

@@mono-lg5vr ? I elaborated on why his take is beyond an invalid argument devoid of logic.

[@mono-lg5vr]

@@justalostlocal yah I'm just saying 😂😂 it's literally the systems Americans use. It's the excuse of nationality/patriotism that's allows them to justify taking resources or occupying certain places, or as you say it,, " the right to trample." they way they use this as valid reasoning is beyond me. Then they also apply it to, " this is why we're #1." ugH

[@CRWiebe]

@@justalostlocal You said it was worse because his argument was devoid of logic. They're saying its more than looks it actually is, but it really is, he thinks hes better because hes a proud american.

[@StickerzinhoPT]

The Reporter: **Asks a question** Hasan: **Explains his opinion** Gianno: **Baby noises** We are Americans! **More baby noises**

[@celeschan90]

That last interaction had me laughing out lout. LOL Hasan: "You keep crying about my uncle." Gianno: "No, it's nice. I wish I had a family that could give me a job. Must be nice" Hasan: "No, you're right. At least I don't have to then go work with racists and pretend voting for them is a better idea."

[@ManOnCouch]

Dude that killed me

[@hluna9938]

😂😂 mic drop

[@juice1354]

BITXH IM DEAD

[@maxwellkirk3874]

yikes, burned the man right there

[@russodumanovschi7017]

"Now we gonna stop" 😂😂

[@DogsOnAcid]

Gianno - "Why doesn't Bernie donate all his money if he is a leftist" Hassan - "Because that doesn't fix the underlying issues that cause inequality." Gianno - "But why doesn't he donate his money and lead by example" Hassan - "Because it doesn't solve the problem." Gianno - "Ok but why doesn't Bernie donate his money if he wants others to do the same?" Hassan - "..."

[@fuckamericanidiot]

Exactly, why do one thing or make one gesture if it isn't going to completely fix the problem.

[@happyari13]

Yup it’s like asking people to donate to homeless shelters to “fix homelessness”

[@fuckamericanidiot]

@@happyari13 Braindead morons.

[@AlecWyld]

Makes complete sense to me. He doesn't want to do it because he doesn't want to give his money away lmao.

[@csanson]

bE tHe eXaMpLe

[@ChutUpPleb]

As a non american I feel so sad to see Hasan having to deal with explaining socialism to american journalists on television. Facts and logic just won't do it.

[@goblinbabe]

Thanks to Ben Sharpener most conservatives think the leftist they’ll debate will be an 18 year old with a 7 second long college education. So they’re blindsided when they find out that these people are actually just as/ if not more, articulate and intelligent in expressing their views.

[@uncomfortablyoversizedbrea6347]

Like Mark Twain once said: “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”

[@tiborbaranyay8270]

Go to a socialist country if you dont like how America is? LOL, 0 idea about life my friend.

[@aidenboomervideo]

yall hype this guy up so much just because of how he looks dude lmao

[@ChutUpPleb]

@@tiborbaranyay8270 I don't live in America

[@osmoticmonk]

elex had no control over this debate and he loved every minute of it

[@kaulthelegend]

That Republican guy live in a different world than we do.

[@AttorneyK]

He has a bad case of uncle tom syndrome

[@20shitzngiggles]

It's called the south side of Chicago

[@MrMalcolm900]

What? The republican guy was 100% correct. Unions have destroyed a lot of black communities and you ppl who claim to care for black neighborhoods and minorities NEVER EVER tend to bring up that fact. Look what unions did to Brooklyn, NYC back in the mid-80's. Fucking unbelievable to call Gianno "Delusional"

[@wadeking4054]

@@MrMalcolm900 The only information I can find about labor unions in the 1980s in New York is the conservative federal government reducing the power of unions and then immediately seeing worker conditions, wages, benefits, and working hours get worse. Or are you referencing anecdotal situations of failed unions in the same way white nationalists point to crimes by immigrants to prove how dangerous they are?

[@MrMalcolm900]

@@wadeking4054 I'm not even going to give your response a serious rebuttal.

[@BruhWhyDidTheyChangeThis]

It is intellectually lazy to be a Republican in the US

[@bigbunda8591]

I care about my money and cheaper taxes that’s all I give a fuck about

[@BruhWhyDidTheyChangeThis]

@@bigbunda8591 my point exactly

[@m_uz1244]

@@bigbunda8591 Proved his point lol

[@bigbunda8591]

@@m_uz1244 oh well that’s how Shit this world has gone too where money only matters not a lot a people still care about their families pretty sad really

[@bugbraineddd]

yep

[@lukacasey6164]

I’m a conservative but this interview makes me agree with Hassan

[@escapefromtibet2530]

You can be a conservative while supporting the labor force and the little man.

[@rtonicamaj9408]

your def not conservative if you agree with hasan but try to get more upvotes lmao

[@bruhmomentos5203]

@@TheRandomEmerald reddit moment

[@noble5832]

@@rtonicamaj9408 found the chud

[@hu-ry]

@@rtonicamaj9408 imagine gatekeeping conservatives xD

[@kerenmason5120]

As a Brit I'm painfully aware of how shit we are but oh my god America is like a dystopian nightmare

[@R4INTUcanaldeCODiotrosjuegos]

@@maude7420 you guys got a shithole public system, y'all literally burning Paris bc of the public pensions

[@maximuz976]

Hassan: **States a point** GIanno: "what's your proof?" Hassan: **Gives him the facts using data and statistics** Gianno: "You talking too much" **while continues to interrupt Hassan, making himself look like a fool**

[@johnP0908]

then he had the audacity to ask hassan to let him talk, what a buffoon. "I'm aN aMeRiCaN!!" probably the dumbest virtual signalling I've ever seen. lmfao.

[@maximuz976]

@@johnP0908 That's Republicans for you. When they can't dismiss the facts they play the victim.

[@hardy7291]

@@maximuz976 Not a republican or even from the US, but the democrats do the exact same thing. That's the main reason there's such divide. Both sides fail to acknowledge the other and just dismiss what they are saying instead of trying to find some sort of middle grounds or at least discuss each side without coming for each others necks. Too blinded by hate for one another to have meaningful discussion.

[@saltymcginger2027]

@@hardy7291 the conservative dems, yeah. But the democratic party isn't a singular group of solid beliefs. It is very very diverse. Unfortunately the conservative dems rule the party...

[@jasmynjohnson4346]

This entire interview is just Hassan actually saying facts and the other dude and the host ganging up on him. Good for Hassan for standing his ground. You can tell he knows he’s right.

[@CharlieTooHuman]

How I feel when I make a progressive argument in a comment section filled with conservative jerkoff circles.

[@duonsoul7996]

The host didn't really intervene that much

[@CharlieTooHuman]

@@duonsoul7996 the host did seem to question Hasan’s logic more than the other guy’s.

[@JLogg444]

@@CharlieTooHuman It's hard to question Gianno's logic when his entire argument is "I'm proud to be American and thus atrocities are justified". There's not a lot to work with there...

[@nikolasdeleeuw4146]

Did the host gang up on Hassan? I disagree.

[@bullishmike7851]

Gianno: "i wish i had a family that could get me a job with no experience." Hasan: "No you're right because at least i then would't have to go work for racist and try to act like voting for them is the better idea for my people." Gianno's Career: OVER.

[@natalierosamond5172]

The most epic serve EVER

[@watchingpassive9485]

Timestamp?

[@Jonas-pe3no]

@@watchingpassive9485 24:54

[@imrankh68]

Epic

[@williamelliott186]

And I oop-- 😧

[@Blakecartersfs]

The way he stares at Hassan is so smug, and indignant. Its creepy.

[@armedi2814]

His smile is setting me off

[@hollyk7052]

It’s an intimidation tactic that’s not working

[@L147-p1x]

"you like the plastic straw ban" -> expecting a policy response "nah, paper straws melt in my cup"

[@punchgod]

I love how he so calmly and swiftly responded to that unlike anything else. Like that’s what he really came here to talk about.

[@richpryor9650]

@@punchgod That was the million-dollar question

[@ephraimkozodoy1620]

For Republicans, that is a policy response

[@seni_oo]

LOOL

[@davidwhite2412]

Still that was the most intelligent statement he made in the entire debate paper straws suck

[@dubble.]

"It's a fraud, it's a fraud" Yo I live in Denmark, we've got free healthcare, education and a shitload of other free shit. Sure we pay a shitload of money in taxes, but we can see the difference that it makes. We can see the great schools and hospitals we have, what we got from our taxes is real and worth the money. Socialist economic systems work, they ain't "frauds".

[@badoem5353]

This is the version no one would have a problem with

[@MrLaserQ]

@@badoem5353 Except pretty much half of the us and even some more on the democratic side

[@badoem5353]

@@MrLaserQ like why? If everyone pays 1% all the time wouldn't that be better than paying 2k each time? As a collective, instead of the individual xs

[@MrLaserQ]

@@badoem5353 No I'm on board with the idea of free healthcare, I meant that most Americans aren't for some reason, despite the obvious downsides of not having it and that more or less every other country in the developed world does provide it without having collapsed

[@badoem5353]

@@MrLaserQ exaggeration seems like a "tool".

[@buildingbridges6728]

"I'm an American" "thats dumb" "that doesnt make sense" is that really all he has to contribute? conservatism has really shown us this year especially that there is no substance in any of their arguments.

[@joshstrachan7206]

Partisan politics aside this is a lot of what Hasan says on his youtube channel... Like nearly exclusively ad hominem.

[@cringerirgendwas7288]

I‘m not really familliar with american politics, but you shouldn‘t generalize things people say, especially when it‘s about politics. I personally agree with hasan much more and watch a lot of his streams, but just because the black dude is bad at debating, doesn‘t mean that the entire republican party is like him.

[@MyvIsLove2]

they can't take criticism about their beloved country, that's the issue. if u can't criticize your country to make it better, it is lost.

[@aennaenn7468]

That's because their "arguments" are essentially jingoism and radical theocratic moral policy couched in "free market" libertarianism.

[@lncredibleBoy]

@@cringerirgendwas7288 Nah buddy, Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, all the PragerU crew is the same and literally all the republican's arguments are the same... At this point you can generalize 😂

[@girlslaughingjp]

Gianno leans towards Hasan because he’s attracted to him, Hasan retains his position because he is unfazed.

[@joedwyer3297]

The joke is theyre both gay? Or what

[@girlslaughingjp]

@@joedwyer3297 there are many layers to this joke and I’d prefer to leave it open to interpretation.

[@AlrightParty]

BeTa¡!¡

[@Yungpino]

When Hasan said "is this the best fox news can do" that had me so dead

[@nenajankovic3780]

i screamed shshashahha

[@mahukarau3872]

I read this just as he said it

[@edrick9621]

@@mahukarau3872 LMFAO SAME

[@bryce99999]

9:40

[@marii5050]

Ikrrr

[@will8117]

So ironic how he calls out Hasan for benefitting from his uncle, yet Hasan is now WAY more successful after leaving TYT

[@wandamaximoff4804]

True, now he's the most watched streamers on twitch lol.

[@a6m576]

@@wandamaximoff4804 Xqc is

[@Itiswhatitisnt2]

@@a6m576 😐

[@reno2146]

@@a6m576 that comment was 3 months ago king.

[@noot3650]

Not a great take. Elon Musk is WAY more successful after he stopped getting supported by his dad's emerald mine money. TYT helped Hasan's career tremendously and he's talked about it. Saying he didn't benefit from his uncle because he's more successful rn is just a bad argument.

[@thechewydinosaur]

Things they agreed on in this video: “Do you like straws?” “No” “Me either”

[@manucorr5796]

It’s beautiful how the hate of paper staws can bring people together r

[@kentorials2603]

I swear Gianno just wanted to argue on anything lmao there was some very middle of the road things Hasan tried and he just seemed like he was trolling

[@Mal1ily]

The fact that I’m the 911th like on this comment is so ironic

[@zobatron2168]

I mean their talk at the end about dealing with hate was sort of wholesome

[@handlemeifyoucan144]

"you ain't got the answers"

[@stuffwithsoph8264]

Conservatives: "facts don't care about your feelings, free speech!!!1!" Also conservatives: "omg take that back its mean :(("

[@carnagewolf1]

"WE ARE AMERICANS"

[@NATtelevision]

Your illogic is showing. We support the fundamental right of people to make ridiculous statements like Hasan did. With that said, you are also then allowed to criticize those stupid statements and call them out for their grossness.

[@stuffwithsoph8264]

@@NATtelevision You ignored the first bit completley to fit your narrative like a debate lord

[@NATtelevision]

@@stuffwithsoph8264 Ignored the first bit of what? You suggested a hypocrisy in the fact that Gianno demanded an apology on behalf of Americans while being on the side of “facts don’t care about your feelings, free speech.” I’m pointing out the fact that criticizing egregious speech is not censorship or counter factual. Nobody is questioning Hasan’s right to make idiotic statements, but he certainly should be blasted for it.

[@stuffwithsoph8264]

@@NATtelevision I never said he can't be blasted for it, but I did make fun of it cuz conservative cucks defend transphobia and racism cuz "muh free speech" yet shit themselves over a pretty logical take

[@bubba1388]

No ones talking about how hasan is even CLEARLY out of his element here (fidgeting, stuttering when he usually wouldnt, stuttered eye contact, having a bit more of a difficult time finding words) and STILL OWNED GIANNO FJDBFBSBDBS HASAN WAS EVEN SHAKING WHEN HE PICKED UP HIS MUG AND STILL TRASHED THIS DUDEEEE edit: (idfk why I had spelled Hasan with 2 s's originally wtf)

[@InevitableTruth247]

@Lauren Edmond TRUEEEEEEE Listening to his points you can tell he was avoiding land mines, and every stutter he made felt like the guy was going to interrupt him before hasan even got to the argument.

[@nuthinbutnikk17]

English was not his mother tongue.

[@saske6152]

He once said himself in a stream that he wasn‘t particularly good at debates

[@kristinem.strand7237]

Even if people has problem with fidgeting, stuttering, stutteres eye contact, having problem finding words dosn't mean that they are out of their element. It means they can be nervouse, excited, energized or ect. It dosn't mean that they have no knowledge on the subject. It is normal to show these signes, and if you do this dayly you will probebly get better at it and feel comfortable over time

[@nuthinbutnikk17]

@@kristinem.strand7237 I kinda disagree with the last part. It won't be gone naturally, it would take more time unles you work on what makes you nervous, or maybe working on getting calmer in somehow tense situations like that

[@BobbyStanley]

I burst out laughing at "Is this really the best fox news has to offer?" possibly because I was thinking the same thing.

[@engjiximimali]

Nah he’s the only black guy that works there that is willing to stop progress for minorities lol

[@engjiximimali]

Edit: or the only one that was available lmao

[@EIDTII]

Bruh this guy literally asked how social safety nets will help Americans. Apparently yelling over your opponent makes your platform better lmao.

[@cantfindmywilltolive657]

My favorite part was when Hassan said “ keep crying about my uncle”

[@babysenpai3883]

And proceed to say that's nice because I don't have to work with racist ppl and think it's better idea than my ppl!!killed him

[@RikkiRebelios]

As a black person we don’t claim him

[@aerina444]

hes out here embarrassing us smh

[@godspeed5474]

Saying things like this is toxic, not everyone should have the same opinion. Its healthy for society to have differing opinions and people with opposing viewpoints shouldnt be disregarded and tossed aside. If you want things to get better you need unity not division.

[@thetumans1394]

@@godspeed5474 Unfortunately, people like Gianno are useful idiots for capital. We shouldn't respect their opinions.

[@deathsyte2007]

In what way is he useful?

[@ajahsias9697]

We def don't bc I'm embarrassed, he was just talking just to talk. Lmao

[@donniejefferson9554]

I love how this starts. " You were endorsed by the president. Amazing stuff. And you over there. You supported 9/11 if I recall correctly. Just want to start the two of you off on even footing

[@imrankh68]

In simple words, "Hey kids! He is a good guy and the other guy is a bad guy".

[@davgg9621]

To be fair the host was more supportive of Hasan during the 'debate'

[@devforfun5618]

@@davgg9621 he was kinda fair i agree, whoever wrote the initial prompt is really bad at feinting fairness, that is the thing with jornalism nowadays, the one the investigate, the one the write the prompt and the one that reads are not the same person, and the second one can put as much bias as he wants as his face is not the one the public sees

[@rev0lve638]

@@davgg9621 kinda the least he could do after opening with 'this guy is satan', right?

[@testingsomething5280]

The host is basically always on Hasan's side when he's on, so I appreciated the change

[@brandonlicata259]

hasan wiped the floor with him literally not even close

[@ninjaman570]

I felt my blood start to boil every time Gianno was talking over hasan

[@rfooter55]

This guy Gianno can't hold his own against a twitch streamer, makes sense now that Trump endorsed his book lmao

[@kehindehopkins6933]

Hasan is also a TV host but sure

[@Ideeem]

Dude, Trump doesn't read. What's his endorsement worth?

[@hannahjoy91]

"Uber and Lyft are temporary jobs" so like, you should temporarily not have rights???

[@benblackburn6670]

Unions don't provide rights. Thats not how it works.

[@eloquenz.5236]

@@benblackburn6670 Unions are Communism. Very clear.

[@rayzer-sama3131]

@@eloquenz.5236 yeah, that's the point. Communism wasn't created by satan m8

[@LeninCake]

@@eloquenz.5236 yeah man u right, thats the point galaxy brain

[@shamblestheclown]

@@eloquenz.5236 please explain what the fuck this means

[@scarletclough]

literally what is the point of him mentioning his uncle? hasan is extremely educated, it’s not like it’s nepotism. (edit: by the nepotism comment i meant he’s not actively employed by his uncle and doesn’t need to go through TYT to share their beliefs)

[@srodefer]

Hasan has admitted that he is a beneficiary of nepotism, but in his instance, it doesn’t really matter because he still is qualified for his job and has built a non-TYT audience

[@zacharypeterson4178]

but uncle!

[@kenken1704]

Sammy Salads he’s Defintely a beneficiary of nepotism as we all should be .. but Hassan has also done the work and is qualified to do what he’s doing.

[@engjiximimali]

Obama is a bitch just look at what his uncle on his moms side twice removed said 15 years ago . Checkmate

[@maxc1214]

@@srodefer nepotism doesn’t matter lol if they are qualified who gives a fuck

[@TheOneGreatMnkey]

I love how the host has to throw gianno a bone and give him talking points because hes getting his ass eaten so passionately

[@basedathos]

gianno is such a fkn clown

[@bruceharper8232]

The young black guys spoken attitude against Unions is a young ignorant observation. Unions have played a significant roll in allowing minorities especially blacks a opportunity to earn a decent living in a otherwise country that chose to work children, women, and others for basically nothing. The labor movement in this country is one of the main reasons of this country's rise to economic power. He's uninformed, and as a retired union member I'm annoyed at his notion. Please put more informed people on your show, because this young man is not a good influence for young people entering the workforce! He talks as if he's trying to gain acceptance of trumps lopsided following..not a good thing.

[@bassplayer8815]

Speaking truth to power man

[@itsboxingbear6551]

Except the fact that public sector unions have been notorious for using union dues to fund politicians that in return employ policies that screw over taxpayers and labor workers and make the union more capital. Unions are immoral and never actually resulted in economic growth. The free market, competition, and development in technology jogged the economy and opened more jobs and higher wage opportunities for workers.

[@ThePandaThunder]

@@itsboxingbear6551 you really think a company would give higher wages if they didn't have too? just look at how much companies pay in poorer foreign countries. They don't care about the people they employ.

[@cereszin]

@@itsboxingbear6551 Yeah that lie of the free market competition might get to the feelings of you americans, but in the countries where massive industries get "economic support" to build their factories we dont see much of that job opportunities. Mainly because economic support generally means less wages for the workers and tax isention for the company (less income to the state from taxes). So not seeing more jobs and higher wage opportunities, just the oposite.

[@imBlanco]

the way they instantly started the conversation by glorifying gianno and scrutinizing hasan really says alot

[@Dellipie]

Fr

[@yurilopes420]

I mean it is fox news, I didn't expect nothing else

[@jacobjenkins7362]

"gianno, i heard you recently won the nobel peace prize? and if i recall correctly jesus himself descended from the heavens to nominate you for position of new god. now, hasan, you are literally satan?"

[@jjj-eq7gv]

I think the host was pretty fair throughout the debate tbh

[@brunoactis1104]

He actually started almost exclusively critisizing Gianno as the debate went on and he realised he was the dumbass in this debate.

[@user-zk1nl5nk4d]

gianno every ten seconds: whAaat HuUuh man say something intelligent for once

[@Azrael.777]

Abahahaha

[@Rkiser0592]

I probably feel the same way as Gianno about "illegal guns on the streets of chicago" and as crass as Hasan's comments were...to fucking throw "you want black people to die" at him when he clearly was making a very (very albiet) egdy comment on US foriegn policy in, at its worst, bad taste.

[@resonance6322]

Smug and stupid is an unappealing combination for sure...

[@fishwoz17]

“You’re comment is uhh the equivalent of what Isis would say”. I stopped watching 4 minutes in

[@jurgnobs1308]

when your strongest argument is "we are americans!", you already lost.

[@ELVIS1975T]

Republican debate strategy: Start talking loudly whenever you’re getting destroyed and try to suppress the voice of the person destroying you.

[@alexgordon8062]

they do love suppression

[@nugget7865]

Democrat debate strategy: Start talking loudly and throwing labels of "racist", "sexist", "-ist" whenever you can't articulate a logical argument. Come on, both sides have their problems. Let's be honest.

[@nugget7865]

@@alexgordon8062 So says the left that practices brown-shirt tactics of speaker and political suppression.

[@timestamp_livewebservices6503]

Thats american politics

[@Cyrenalux]

@@nugget7865 Democrats are not left wing.

[@henrysilverstein4687]

You know that Hazan won when the host is arguing on his side the whole time lmao

[@andybear6617]

Well to be frank, i think this host likes Hasan. In Hasan’s virtual debate with Ben Shapiro’s lackey, host was taking Hasan’s side. Hasan was spitting facts though

[@Kyrus92]

For real, he was getting kinda pissed at this Gianno guy, slowly but surely, too

[@elliotbelanger2946]

@@andybear6617 « i think the host likes hasan » Bruh host literally began by praising this guy’s book and how successful it was. And presented Hasan with an, if out of context, controversial statement. Host got tired of the right wing’s constant babling, interrupting and « I’M AN AMURICAN »

[@FlamingNinjaBoi]

It's difficult to dislike hasan, you guys. One of the most logical and sound speakers I've encountered in a very, very long time.

[@Mbonic]

AndyBear what video is that?

[@joemills346]

Wow, Gianno was entirely unprofessional here. Constantly trying to be dramatic, trying to look smart by talking down, and having several double standards and falsehoods. He clearly didn't know that he was going against a big fish, nor did he know that he was losing.

[@aaronz6236]

This must be your first introduction to Fox News lmaos

[@pineapple7024]

This guy is from the same platform that hosts Tucker Carlson, so it’s not surprising at all

[@benadkins7695]

Gianno: “Apoligggiiiiizzze 🥺🥲😔” Hassan: “No, I don’t think I will.”

[@viceb7]

Man I respect Hasan's restraint and patience lol

[@robthagod4870]

Gianno: “Do you have any numbers to back that up?” Hasan: Provides the numbers Gianno: “I’m not familiar with those numbers.” 🤣💀

[@popkick8350]

Hasan later: “I’m sure there’s a lot of numbers you’re not familiar with.” That got me! 😆

[@malice9240]

Gianno is so dumb, whenever he cant nake an argument he just says. "Fake, lie, im an american, i dont beleave so, laughs."

[@IFeelWeak]

Bro said no shit 🤣🤣

[@laratsung3058]

“at least I don’t have to work with racists” lmao I love Hasan

[@lukei7291]

Why does the conservative get an ad but the smart one gets flamed in the beginning? lol

[@dasteraw]

Because america do nothing wrong*

[@jdelgado243]

Hasan and smart are 2 words that shouldnt be associated with each other

[@lukei7291]

@@jdelgado243 Triggered?

[@jdelgado243]

@@lukei7291 Nope. I just want to make sure that we are using accurate definitions. Thanks for checking though

[@carimavandijk1091]

@@jdelgado243 I love it when people like you call someone dumb or not smart just because you dont agree. He is saying so many things that are litterally true and facts, I live in a European country and I laugh at America for being so far right, just like almost everybody in country's who have social democratic things in their society and politics. Learn something I'd say

[@madisonhadden9510]

they tried to do hasan SO DIRTY with the biased intros and the outro pictures

[@alexiswilds6938]

This guy really cuts Hasan off like twenty times and the one time Hasan asks him a question while talking this guy tells him to stop cause he’s taking BHAHAHA

[@aaronc9878]

Hasan is very smart though, whenever he gets interrupted, he doesn’t hesitate and keeps talking.

[@tyrayentali7041]

I think he gave Hasan a lot of time to talk, he definitely had like 75% of it. For as how much Hasan started to insult and disrespect that guy mid-conversation I actually find it impressive how calm he stayed, himself. This is one of Hasan's weaknesses, imo. Once he becomes agitated he is bad at cooling down again. That's why there are memes around his stunlocks. He still made correct points, though, no doubt about that but it's less pleasent to listen to him in this state.

[@k1ingg618]

@@tyrayentali7041 other guy didnt really have alot of points.. he just says "we are americans"

[@Sarised]

FR LMAOOOO

[@Devanimations]

@@tyrayentali7041 That's because Hasan is actually passionate about what he's talking about. This other guy is just a bad faith actor whose only mission in this was to try to trip Hasan up and make him flustered so he could try to make him look foolish.

[@ViralWorldWideVideos]

Hassan: The sky is blue... Gianno: wE aRe AmeRiCannn!!!!

[@Rozegolden]

😭😭👌🏾👌🏾

[@Bird.Lover6000]

Wait wtf I thought the sky was traditional y'all are just sheep's smh my head 😧

[@RAPTORREX789]

love to see hasan absolutely ruin a conservative. really floats my boat

[@ElTigre081]

It's important to note that Hasan concedes points to his opponent and this is an excellent debate strategy. It shows that you are still in control of your position and not falling into your emotions. It's entertaining to watch him keep it together while Gianno tries desperately to corner him.

[@alexinho6981]

This Gianno dude argues like my ten year old brother when he knows he's wrong.

[@kentorials2603]

Fuck this made me laugh

[@lootbugg]

sadly an "accidental" punch to the stomach is not allowed in this case

[@lovecraftianjester]

Does he keep reminding you that you're Americans?

[@XBR4Da]

Hasan be looking so fine while he's dunking on Gianno 😍😍

[@novaxchrono]

Ayo?

[@yolo-vl4wz]

FRRR LOOK AT THOS ARMSSS

[@kweena]

Seriously! Dude has several arms posing as one on each side. Killed it!

[@llusygg34]

and in that suit? BYE

[@tjweaverling1697]

Gianno IS KILLING ME. no ones is going to pay extra to the government, especially when they’re not receiving anything more in return.

[@scarletclough]

it makes no sense that bernie would donate to the government when he doesn’t support their policies. like literally WHAT?

[@kyleg8098]

Scarlet Clough well he thinks millionaires and billionaires should pay more and he is one so why not?

[@MyenaVT]

@@kyleg8098 Because a donation from one person isn’t a substitute for tax reform.

[@kyleg8098]

@@MyenaVT which is why we need a flat tax

[@Edensghost]

Gianno: “I’m an American, and I’m proud of it!” Hassan: “Cool, man,”

[@braydenmoore3101]

Gianno: “Do you have any facts to back that up?” Hasan: *starts listing out facts to back up his statement* Gianno: “alright alright hold on let me talk now youve talked for too long”

[@vcomrade]

Nobody: Gianno: HEY DID YOU KNOW THAT I GREW UP IN THE SAME POOR CONDITIONS THAT MILLIONS OF BLACK FAMILIES LIVE IN BUT DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THAT HAHA WOW THE FREE MARKET IS REAL AWESOME GUYS HAHA

[@clairofan01]

Just pick up your boot straps!!!!

[@magicman5318]

That's not what he said, idiot

[@BlONIC]

Because the union has control over that? And they don’t shit about it. You’re making fun of your own party dumbass

[@TrueFool188]

It's because the fact he was able to pull himself out is a defining character trait about himself and giving someone the ability to do the same, only easier, would destroy his self-worth.

[@blackgold754]

@@TrueFool188 nope making it easier for those want actually want to contribute will actually have easier time achieving success rather than leaving the system as same as it is.

[@gwingzero74]

Hasan smoked this dude

[@stuffy_halford]

“we did that all over the world!” *3 seconds later* “WHAT DID WE DO TO DESERVE THIS!!”

[@nephilimx3]

I love how gianno's argument during the 9/11 segment is essentially "but America!!"

[@evanmaguire2280]

@Andrea MENDENHALL Dude seriously, go back an watch the full clip

[@evanmaguire2280]

@Andrea MENDENHALL Not once was Hasan talking about the American people. He was explaining how the government basically instigated or provided the motives for 9/11

[@evanmaguire2280]

@Andrea MENDENHALL Okay well again, he meant we deserved it in a sense of how we’ve taking innocent human life in the Middle East for decades prior to 9/11 and arming the contras who would become the terrorist organizations today. That just goes over a lot of people’s heads and think the millions murdered in the middle of our pointless conflicts is okay. So what he meant was that it was only a matter of time we got served our own medicine. Not the fact that all those people who were actually effected deserved it.

[@evanmaguire2280]

@Andrea MENDENHALL Also there was a plane that was meant to hit the White House or Capitol but passengers on board stopped it thankfully but sadly sacrificed themselves to do so. And also Bush knew about al queda looking to target US soil for a while and ignored it. He then continued to launch strikes in the Middle East for our own gain.

[@evanmaguire2280]

@Andrea MENDENHALL Just no, we have added to the problem tenfold and murdered millions in the process which were unjustified. It’s definitely sad that we lost thousands in 9/11 and nobody is denying that. However to just say “OH HOW DARE YOU DISRESPECT THOSE WHO LOST THERE LIVES!!! 😡😡” without understanding what we’ve done is much much worse is very ignorant and highly hypocritical. Just look at others in the comments if you wanna learn more. Hell if you wanna research yourself start off with Iran Contra Affair and Ronald Reagan. Same with Blowback and the CIA. It goes much deeper than you think.

[@upsidedownskull4400]

This Gianno guy talks like the dude from Get Out who had his brain swapped with an elderly white man

[@ashleecantu6470]

Spoiler alert!

[@txmade210]

seriously though. look at his smile at 0:30 this fool is long gone

[@christianmiranda7]

"I'm an American and I'm PROUD of it." "Alright, cool, man." Jeez, it's almost like pride can be a negative thing, like during a debate.

[@nadiakaramat8456]

Idk if you were trying to say that you think we should be able to say we’re proud to be an American without it being a negative or not (I’m going to assume you were sorry if you weren’t) but being over proud of your country can be problematic. Using the example of the debate, when piker was trying to explain that yes, Americans were sadly killed during 9/11 we, America was bombing the Middle East and giving them weapons ultimately leading to the deaths of thousands of middle easterns. So when gianno was saying “BUT AMERICANS WERE KILLED” it’s like saying it doesn’t matter that those middle easterns deaths weren’t as traumatic and believes that even though they were helping kill thousands of middle easterns for years 9/11 was worse. So when you start saying “IM PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN” you sound ignorant and a blind follower

[@christianmiranda7]

@@nadiakaramat8456 We essentially see it the same way. Pride can blind.

[@Moscato_Moscato]

Hasan: [Makes a clear and valid point] Gianno: *HUH*