Elf Audios Koala Sampler App Toxic Community Exposed

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Ave Mcree

Ave Mcree

Күн бұрын

In a turn of events. ‪@elfaudio‬ community (including employess) decided to post my video in a private group. Not to share it on a good faith but to bash it! So I wanted to exposed their behavior to the world. Instead of going back and forth. It gets deeper because KZbin content creator ‪@Weaverbeats‬ like to tell biased stories about me. So, these guys are in this together! There's more to this story but I wanted to focus on the problem at hand. I'm am not the bad guy here. Please don't support this company.
Sources
The most hateful private group on FaceBook: shorturl.at/ajkHJ
My original video: • MPC Sampling Producer ...
(btw I no longer endorse this company)
My comparison video: • Koala Sampler VS MPC: ...
I've done similar content but with different results
My first time using Reason: • AKAI MPC Producer has ...
(notice the difference in responses?!?)
Proof that I'm not a shill for AKAI
Video: • "You're an AKAI MPC Sh...
Proof that I've criticized AKAI recently
video: • FL Studio 21.1 Update:...
(btw, they handled the situation 10x better)
Proof that I've received free gear from companies & still was critical!
Video 1: • Roland Verselab MV-1! ...
Video 2: • Smpltrek Sampler: Soni...
(this is the video where Donell "Dibiase" McGary chose to disrespect on his social media instead of calling me otp!!)
Proof that I gave away my free Smpltrak & praised them for updating the firmware
Video: • Sonicware Smpltrek 2.0...
Proof that Weaver Beats tells bias stories to make other people feel better
Video: • The MPC Drama Continue...
(this man has been lying on me for years for $$$ but we'll get to him in another video)
0:00 defending yourself isn't wrong
2:11 the back story
3:41 reading the nasty comments from Elf Audio pt.1
6:04 the receipt of me trying be to positive & fair
7:55 proof people are trying to sabotage my reputation
9:32 reading the nasty comments from Elf Audio pt.2
10:03 I gave them prop but this is the thanks I get?
11:19 the hypocrisy is real
12:34 the "He's a MPC shill" argument is old, dusty, & untrue
13:40 the truth behind the Dibiase situation with receipts
17:49 reading more comments & how they use Weaver Beats
18:27 airing out their dirty laundry
19:28 the solution to the problem

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@AveMcree
@AveMcree 9 ай бұрын
I've ignored everyone for a long time but now. I'm fighting back! Also, here's proof that I've done similar video's in the past with different results. So, don't say I'm not an equal opportunist! kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6OvZmxre8aHnpYsi=ESy1g4lhNMNJFdPP
@discowolf25
@discowolf25 9 ай бұрын
You a real one! That’s crazy cuz I use it sometimes and, it’s great but, to each their own. I mean shit I still use a 303 for MOST of my stuff 😂. Keep it up fam💯, and thank you for the best sound design advice of all time. Fk the haters Ave 🫡
@SLPGroundSoundMusic
@SLPGroundSoundMusic 9 ай бұрын
Ave, first of all, elf koala sampler is a one man company, basically only one person created Koala, and only one person run koala, which is a developer who is actually is a great humble person, so basically who you are talking aboutbthe person and group on the post in the koala community doesn't have anything to do with the creator of koala, or the elf "company" which again is just a one guy company, so what im saying is that those post in the community who you based this video on, are simply the app users or supporters, a community of people who use and support the app and the developer and thats about it, of course people will support the developer, because he is a person who care about the app and those who use the app, which anybody won't be able to say that about other app developers, because other app developers only care about the money,,, but anyway what im trying to say is that you're basically basing this video about someone in the community who is just a regular guy that use the app, a regular person who just bought the app and became part of the community like everyone in the group did and anybody else can too,, because is a community created for koala user to help and support each other, and even though the Koala developer gets involved with community, that doesn't mean that what you are talking about got to do with him, because it doesn't,, basically 98% of the people i the community are just supporters of the app and thats about it,, so you basically made the video about an unknown person, which is like making a video about someone who wrote a bad comment on your video, which is definitely a waste of time,. and should know that, that you shouldn't care about negative comments on a video, because that just part of social media !! anyways im a Koala supporter just like im also a supporter of what you do, hopefully you keep making videos of koala because i do like watching them peace brother ✌🏽
@jimmi274
@jimmi274 9 ай бұрын
They lost more than one! Air’em all out Ave!
@IKARIking67
@IKARIking67 9 ай бұрын
Left field question @AveMcree, but what did you use for the captions on this video. It's a nice touch
@boardgangbeats7329
@boardgangbeats7329 9 ай бұрын
Much love and respect for you and the channel you’ve created bro. I learned alot from watching your channel. Keep going 💯
@kallpakk
@kallpakk 9 ай бұрын
None one of those guys work for Elf Audio. Elf Audio is just one dev, Marek, that uses independent contractors for help sometimes. This whole community are just fans. And to label an entire Facebook group as toxic based on the behavior of a few members, would be like labeling your entire channel as toxic based on a few of your livestreams. This ain't it Ave. You're just feeding the trolls.
@wesp404
@wesp404 9 ай бұрын
This whole video is so misguided and off target. How is Marek responsible off comments from a few people on a friggin message board? Ave turning into the old guy yelling at the clouds.
@CayoticProphet
@CayoticProphet 9 ай бұрын
This! This is one of many reasons I have decade old KZbin channels and no new content. I left facebook over drama, I don't come here for it, but I listen. I bought the koala app after Ave's video reviewing it, then I watched this one, only to feel bad about supporting them, only to find out, it's people outside the development of the app. Some people "gravitate" towards drama, not even meaning to. If I don't fuck around and make content, I'll never find out if people are predominately cynical or supportive. I am both... I am so supportive of cynical people that don't support the agenda of the enemy. There is a spiritual battle for our souls, regardless of our beliefs. This is why I have become cynical about people that support counter productive products produced by companies slowly trying to enslave us, under their corporate thumbs. "You will own nothing and be happy." If you want to use your seat warmers to keep your pizza warm in your BMW, that will be a monthly subscription of $19.99 plus tax of course! Let's tax someone for using something monthly, that they paid off and already own. Why not? They tax the property you think you own.
@onnaquest
@onnaquest 6 ай бұрын
Personally i took it a step further and labeled all of Facebook toxic lol
@fentanyljones6956
@fentanyljones6956 9 ай бұрын
Hopefully you read this comment. NONE OF THESE PEOPLE REPRESENT ELF AUDIO. MAREK WHO OWNS, OPERATES, AND CODES KOALA IS A VERY HUMBLE, KIND, HELPFUL DUDE AND ISN’T ALL OVER THE INTERNET LIKE THAT. DEFINITELY NOT OUT TALKING SHIT.
@1337murk
@1337murk 9 ай бұрын
Ave posting their names is legally considered doxxing, they could sue him
@stitchfacegotthesauce
@stitchfacegotthesauce 9 ай бұрын
​@@1337murkwhat? there is 0 malicious intent, purely for explanation.
@1337murk
@1337murk 9 ай бұрын
@@stitchfacegotthesauce Doesn't matter, still exposed their real and full names to 100's of thousands of people without consent. Look up laws surrounding doxxing
@stitchfacegotthesauce
@stitchfacegotthesauce 9 ай бұрын
@@1337murk I'm jus saying that shit wouldn't hold up in court. He's explaing his side of the story💀 that's the whole point of the video
@1337murk
@1337murk 9 ай бұрын
@@stitchfacegotthesauce Yes it would hold up in court, especially if any of those people mentioned received unwanted contact as a result of the mention.
@dionmorales479
@dionmorales479 9 ай бұрын
I'm sorry a few people hated on you for your Koala vid, but you shouldn't be throwing a whole company under the bus over toxic fans. Elf Audio is one man. One person doing it all... Now you're telling your subscribers not to support his company because of some users on a Facebook forum talking shit. You're taking food out this mans mouth over something he has no control over.
@jamesspringer6898
@jamesspringer6898 9 ай бұрын
“I took the mature route” while making a whole video about how the comments got to you
@mrjoemiles
@mrjoemiles 9 ай бұрын
I’m not very active on there but I do know that it’s only one guy making the app. He’s a solid dude who’s bringing high quality product to people for cheap and he’s always respectful. Can’t hold him responsible for assholes in that group, any more than you’re responsible for everybody in your comment section.
@30MrBappMan
@30MrBappMan 9 ай бұрын
It’s not as quality as Akai.. And I have a koala beat on my iG … you can distinctly tell the difference in quality…
@mrjoemiles
@mrjoemiles 9 ай бұрын
@@30MrBappMan maybe. there also could be other factors that caused that. Either way it’s not what my comment was about
@StevenSmethurst
@StevenSmethurst 9 ай бұрын
@@30MrBappMan it cost £5 and is developed by one guy, I wouldn't expect it to be.
@30MrBappMan
@30MrBappMan 9 ай бұрын
Then what’s your point.. it great for beginning and entry level production…. I still use it I just don’t sell beats from it… its a Great Way to create ideas away from home or your daw. Then enter it in to your daw and it can be special. But alone it has a lot of drawbacks daws and stand-alone don’t…. ..
@baL88537
@baL88537 9 ай бұрын
​@@30MrBappManskill issue 🤣 madlib made bandana on ipad try different apps it dowsnt matter you noob
@strangnet
@strangnet 9 ай бұрын
How is the sole developer in Elf Audio responsible for people in a facebook group?
@Kevhuman
@Kevhuman 9 ай бұрын
I remember a certain video in which a musician and creator "tried" a certain Akai product, said some good things, but also made some suggestions. I recall that another content creator was not very happy about that. There is certainly a certain amount of hypocrisy floating around.
@bumbaclarkkent3613
@bumbaclarkkent3613 9 ай бұрын
🎯 spot on
@lextron-audio
@lextron-audio 8 ай бұрын
Yes, someone really got their knickers in twist about nothing really and made them self look stupid. Childish behaviour
@apex_agile713
@apex_agile713 7 ай бұрын
That certain producer just put out an SP 1200 special edition with his name on it too. He was right and he's an honorable man.
@NeverToBeSeenAgain
@NeverToBeSeenAgain 9 ай бұрын
how has this video been up for 5 days and you can't even edit the lies out of the description. You didn't show a single employee's comment in this because there are no employees in that group.
@mjissowrong
@mjissowrong 9 ай бұрын
Weaver talks the same about everyone , never disrespects . It’s the internet
@PhantomStrange
@PhantomStrange 9 ай бұрын
ya, this is weird, Ave need to go back to talking about music.
@MrJemoederopeenstokj
@MrJemoederopeenstokj 9 ай бұрын
How dare he react bro,what a toxic man!
@NewMateo
@NewMateo 9 ай бұрын
I will say its sorta ironic that Ave claims weaver is toxic when he made an entire video harrassing random people on Facebook AND posted their names / info. it's in bad taste imho.
@MrJemoederopeenstokj
@MrJemoederopeenstokj 9 ай бұрын
It's very ironic indeed. Imagine getting this mad over some comments and not making the distinction between a fan group and a company. I almost feel sorry for him,almost. @@NewMateo
@rydakule
@rydakule 9 ай бұрын
The koala community is a bit cult-like but it’s not because of the developer. Marek (elf audio) is super chill and he’s not about this shit. I’ve been in that FB group for over a year now and what you’re saying is true, except for the shit about the company. He don’t deserve to be slandered like this. I’ve never seen that dude say a negative thing about anyone. I watched this shit unfold and you’re well within your rights to go at that community. But going at Elf Audio ain’t right. That’s you jumping to conclusions just like those idiots jumped to conclusions about you.
@HD-cp1fg
@HD-cp1fg 9 ай бұрын
Word. Ive been following streams with beat showcases that developer runs for two years now and i rarely see dude so wholesome and chill with genuine interest in music and sharing it to wider audience. No doubt if Ave ever wanted to play his beats on Koala channel im sure he'll have his spotlight and chance to clear the air.
@lextron-audio
@lextron-audio 9 ай бұрын
You're forgetting, it's the internet. There's trolls in every community.
@bjamminsincebirth3494
@bjamminsincebirth3494 9 ай бұрын
Ave…that’s a one man company….Marek is the one that built it. Facebook community isn’t the company. I think you are directing your comments to the wrong people.
@tom-541
@tom-541 9 ай бұрын
Just a heads up - those contributors are not employees I believe, elf audio is just one dude. I'm not sure why it's called an official fb group. Possibly the guy running the show let them make it an official group because as a one man band he doesn't have time for that, but it's anyones guess. The point is it's a group of enthusiasts talking crap as groups of enthusiasts tend to do, which isn't nice but I don't think it's elf audio as a company. Sorry you had to put up with all this, hope you're well generally.
@StudioCee
@StudioCee 9 ай бұрын
It's not a company that the comments are from, it's a private Facebook group. The link you put to the group goes to Short URL website and not the actual group. Don't know if the group has been removed or not but it's not the company.
@nickynocknoo
@nickynocknoo 9 ай бұрын
Exactly right, it's just a user group. Simply because Ave got some rude comments/trolling from some forum posters he is acting as if they represent Elf audio and were sent to attack him by the company. Elf audio is just one software developer and he doesn't deserve to be thrown under the bus like this.
@StudioCee
@StudioCee 9 ай бұрын
How come at 9:47 you say "“You know I don’t like making fun of people for you know not writing in complete sentences or anything like that because I totally understand and what I’m understanding right now is that a lot of these guys English isn’t their first language or I don’t know…” But at 4:59 you said "Man, the English bruh!" That seems like a pretty disparaging comment about someone's use of English.
@SwishMajor
@SwishMajor 9 ай бұрын
Bro, none of these "allegations" you are making towards Weaver and saying that he is hating were ever made in the first place. Bro was literally documenting the entire mpc. But also, you are getting heated with people criticizing you, like bro, you are a content creator, and as a public figure in the producer community, you will be criticized for your work - you signed up for it. This video proves that just like BusyWorksBeats, you can't take criticism. Geez man. Edit: I think your videos reviewing products is informative and well written
@kaonashiitoi3682
@kaonashiitoi3682 9 ай бұрын
The funniest part of this is that you constantly egg on FL studio users. This is weird.
@TwinCitiesOxygen
@TwinCitiesOxygen 9 ай бұрын
😂 people on the internet said mean things. Grow up dude lol. Stop cluelessly slandering a one man company you know nothing about.
@SLPGroundSoundMusic
@SLPGroundSoundMusic 9 ай бұрын
Ave, first of all, elf koala sampler is a one man company, basically only one person created Koala, and only one person run koala, which is a developer who is actually is a great humble person, so basically who you are talking aboutbthe person and group on the post in the koala community doesn't have anything to do with the creator of koala, or the elf "company" which again is just a one guy company, so what im saying is that those post in the community who you based this video on, are simply the app users or supporters, a community of people who use and support the app and the developer and thats about it, of course people will support the developer, because he is a person who care about the app and those who use the app, which anybody won't be able to say that about other app developers, because other app developers only care about the money,,, but anyway what im trying to say is that you're basically basing this video about someone in the community who is just a regular guy that use the app, a regular person who just bought the app and became part of the community like everyone in the group did and anybody else can too,, because is a community created for koala user to help and support each other, and even though the Koala developer gets involved with community, that doesn't mean that what you are talking about got to do with him, because it doesn't,, basically 98% of the people i the community are just supporters of the app and thats about it,, so you basically made the video about an unknown person, which is like making a video about someone who wrote a bad comment on your video, which is definitely a waste of time,. and should know that, that you shouldn't care about negative comments on a video, because that just part of social media !! anyways im a Koala supporter just like im also a supporter of what you do, hopefully you keep making videos of koala because i do like watching them peace brother ✌🏽
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 9 ай бұрын
Nah peep the social media. They whole staff should be fired today
@SLPGroundSoundMusic
@SLPGroundSoundMusic 9 ай бұрын
@@AveMcree i been in that community for 2 years and im sure they're not staff of Koala, because the Koala community is just a community made by supporters of the app to support the developer and to help and support eachother, so basically the community was not created by the actual owner, creater or developer of the app, so yes they're 2 different things, so you shouldn't blame Elf for the people on the community commenting their own opinions, because at the end of the day, they are just opinions on a comment, plus you also should understand that when it comes to communities that are based on supporting a specific thing, that those in the community will defend what they care about, which i got to admit that i also do the same thing too sometimes about Koala, when people are trying to put the app down unfairly, just because its my favorite app to work with, but thats not the case here with what im saying, because you wasn't doing that, on the videos like you already said, even though you was saying that it didn't had features that it actually had, but again it understandable that you didn't know much about the app because like you wrote on the video title, you are trying Koala for the first time, so obviously you won't know what it do or not do if is your first time using the app, that is why i even commented on those video trying to help you out, by letting you know what you missed to find out, didn't know or understand about the app, like for example, how to be able to live record while koala is playing the beat,, also how to record or sample auv3 plugins, and plus how to do the other stuff that you mentioned,, but anyway what basically saying is, that the koala community is about, helping each other about how to do whatever anybody have a question about,, but obviously some will express their opinions about what other is talking about, and obviously some options will not be likable, but that is just part of life and that will also be part of social media, so don't take those options so seriously because at the end of the day, they're just that, opinions and that's it !!! hopefully what i wrote actually reflects what im really trying to say, and that it makes sense because im Puerto Rican and Spanish is my main language, so i apologize for that, and my bad english grammar!!
@StudioCee
@StudioCee 9 ай бұрын
Who are the Elf Audio employees? Looking up the company, it seems that it's one guy working out of his home.
@buggablues
@buggablues 9 ай бұрын
I think Koala is just Marek, a single dev? It was legend without a mixer for the longest time, which honestly says a lot. I’d rather pay for updates to a single dev and support him than have him do it in his free time and rarely update it because it is just a hobby. Regardless, does calling out haters make them stop? I can already see Weaver booting up his editing software.
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 9 ай бұрын
That’s not a good excuse seeing even there social media is toxic. Sorry fam and I got receipts.
@1337murk
@1337murk 9 ай бұрын
​@@AveMcreeTheir* social media*. Their, not there.
@brightonic
@brightonic 9 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure the main person who works on Koala Sampler is Marek Bereza, considering he’s the persona credited on the app store and the main person who shows up in the elf audio yt channel. This Scott Williams guy most likely doesn’t work for elf audio and most likely never will. So nah, it’s just the community being assholes, not the actual developers. EDIT: I don’t agree with what you said in the description about not supporting elf audio. Seems pretty petty to me. It’s not even a separating the art from the artist situation considering 95% of the people who were on you don’t work for elf audio.
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 9 ай бұрын
Marek definitely was in the thread and I’ll screenshot it. If you wanna support them then do so🫡
@brightonic
@brightonic 9 ай бұрын
@@AveMcree I would like to see what he said.
@brightonic
@brightonic 9 ай бұрын
@@AveMcree Follow up question. Why didn’t you include it in the video 😭
@bumbaclarkkent3613
@bumbaclarkkent3613 9 ай бұрын
Doesnt 2:18 conflict with 18:52 ? Perhaps youve been interpreted as giving a 'review' of what you 'tried' after all 🤷🏽‍♂️
@Luap-ls3ix
@Luap-ls3ix 9 ай бұрын
You good dude? 16 years and you're this upset about a couple of comments in a FAN MADE facebook group? Maybe you need to talk to someone instead of talking to a camera lens.
@imoses
@imoses 9 ай бұрын
I'm new to your channel, a Koala user and I really enjoyed your video where you tried out Koala and compared it to the MP. I thought it was more than fair and I learned some things about the Akai that I didn't know. For some reason in life, it seems that 4 or 5 negative folks stand out more than the dozens of positive ones. It's like a messed up law of physics. But I want to say that I'd love to see you do more Koala videos, as you continue to learn more about how to use it. It doesn't appear the developer himself is at fault. I encourage you not to give up on the software. We support you. Keep on making those great videos!
@F_letc.h
@F_letc.h 9 ай бұрын
I think it’s worth noting that Elf Audio is one person. People on social media don’t represent Elf Audio, and Marek (the sole owner/employee of Elf Audio) is too busy living his life, and developing his app, to monitor everything being said on the internet about his app, or about you tube content creators. You’re directing your anger at Elf Audio when your beef is really just with random geeks on the internet. Elf Audio (again, one person) has nothing to do with it, and shouldn’t be held responsible for what every kid on the internet says or does.
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 9 ай бұрын
They should be held responsible for there actions seeing they are influencer like me. I’m sorry but even the official social media account is toxic too. I will post some of their tweets and prove it
@F_letc.h
@F_letc.h 9 ай бұрын
@@AveMcreeIMO, if the statement didn’t come directly from Marek, it didn’t come from Elf Audio.
@NewMateo
@NewMateo 9 ай бұрын
@@AveMcree dawg their just randoms on facebook. If someone was being an A$$h*&% in Walmart I'm not going to go and claim they represent Walmart and should be held responsible. You really should delete this video because their is just so much wrong with it.
@1337murk
@1337murk 9 ай бұрын
​@@AveMcreeFor their* actions, not there.
@1337murk
@1337murk 9 ай бұрын
​@@AveMcreeTheir is a possessive.. their mpcs, their opinions, their struggle with grammar, etc. There is used in sentences like "it's over there" etc. Example sentence to break it down further for you: Their mpc is over there on the shelf. Let's throw in another example also using 'they're ' as I expect you struggle with that one, too. They're a youtuber, who likes to use their mpc, the one over there. Hope this helps you grasp these words.
@wingoshack
@wingoshack 9 ай бұрын
Don't tell me you're actually this mad at a random Facebook group and also getting it mixed up with the app developer. How could you be on KZbin so long and not know how trolls on social media work
@nickynocknoo
@nickynocknoo 9 ай бұрын
He is though...or he is just posting ragebait content.
@YungstarProd
@YungstarProd 9 ай бұрын
It was a fan-made group, Ave-you gotta ignore the trolls my dude. Take a break, brother.
@baL88537
@baL88537 9 ай бұрын
Bro is old I dont know why but Old people get offense from everything 💀💀
@suntanbear4763
@suntanbear4763 9 ай бұрын
I’ve appreciated your videos for a long time but I do think you’ve over reacted to a few posters on a Facebook channel. To suggest that they are representative of elf audio is akin to saying that all your 128k subscribers represent you. I’m a big fan of koala and I love my Mpc one, there is plenty of room for both. I don’t subscribe to that Facebook group but I am on the discord group and find the koala community pretty helpful and not judgemental.
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 9 ай бұрын
According to some people in the comments. The developer had some issues with my video too🤷🏾 so I didn’t over react.
@A.D.G
@A.D.G 9 ай бұрын
@@AveMcree "According to some people in the comments". Sheesh man, grow up. You did over-react. You targeted Elf Audio (one guy) over something he had nothing to do with. Now you keep deleting his comments on this video. 40+ years on this planet and you're still drama baiting
@nickynocknoo
@nickynocknoo 9 ай бұрын
Eh, I have no dog in the fight because I don't use either MPC or Koala. Honestly when I saw your video, you made some good points and said some positive things about it, but overall it came off like you were generally being slightly dismissive, and the thumbnail of the vid had you looking skeptically at the app with your eyebrow raised. That was a little bit of the vibe I got for the whole video to be honest (just my subjective impression). That is not to justify people who go waaay too far in responding. Anyway, this is like being salty about what some random kids on an MPC forum said about that platform. Would you then claim those kids represented AKAI itself as a company? Of course not. Furthermore, we are talking about a one man developer and you are portraying him here as a megacorp setting his army of toxic marketers and influencers on you. I can pretty much guarantee the guy has zero time for that kind of thing. Touch grass man.
@kaonashiitoi3682
@kaonashiitoi3682 9 ай бұрын
I say this genuinely as a non-biased observer of your content: get some help. I think your mental health is seriously at risk. I know you've gone through a lot with your Mom and loneliness, but none of the stuff you highlighted is disrespectful. People are allowed to critique your content and disagree with you. No one is picking on you. The fact that FB posters are getting this deep under your skin is wild.
@yodabe882
@yodabe882 9 ай бұрын
You know these people don't work for Koala, right? They're just members of a facebook group of people that use the app. The company is one person that makes everything him self.
@bennynewqs
@bennynewqs 9 ай бұрын
to call Elf Audio toxic because their users don't like you or agree with you on a forum is bonkers.. from what I gather Elf Audio is just one man... I've tried a lot of iPhone/iPad apps over the year (including Akai ones) and Koala is far, far more fun and impressive than pretty much any other I've seen. I'd 1000% recommend it to anyone especially new people wanting to get into beatmaking because a) they probably have a phone capable of running it already and b) it's $15 frickin dollars! I bet enough kids drop hundreds and hundreds of dollars on SP404s and MPCs etc before giving up for whatever reason
9 ай бұрын
I don't think these were Elf Audio employees, but there is a bit of a sycophantic behavior in the Koala group. I don't think the main developer indulges into these sorts of situations, too. My gripe with the video is that it was slightly rushed, didn't look like you got into the full swing of things, but it wasn't particularly disparaging to the app as well. As someone who uses this app regularly, I do urge you to spend more time with it, because it's a good tool in specific situations. No need to shame anyone for their gear-preference either way, think that was a bit too far.
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 9 ай бұрын
Did the exact same video for Reason studios and their community members had zero negative to say about it! No excuses!!
@sinewavedream
@sinewavedream 9 ай бұрын
@@AveMcreereason studios is software that has history and talented users that actually make music/full songs for the past 20+ years. Koala is great for making Beats when your taking a Crap or waiting in a lineup to kill time! It's a fun app but not a game changer.
@YungstarProd
@YungstarProd 9 ай бұрын
@@AveMcree not every community’s the same Ave. you gotta ignore the trolls.
@ItsTheFuzzMan
@ItsTheFuzzMan 9 ай бұрын
You're letting normal internet shit get under your skin and in your head. A few people didnt agree about your experience with one app. Let it go.
@youriakadjolabrikol
@youriakadjolabrikol 9 ай бұрын
Big big up Ave MCree and continu to share your tips and your beatmaking sessions ! We really learn a lot of supa useful things thanks to you.
@ricardomilice2470
@ricardomilice2470 9 ай бұрын
Ave , I appreciate everything you do. I been following your channel for about 3yrs now. I’m not gonna lie, you did catch me off guard when you had Koala 😂, I almost thought I had the wrong channel 😂. So in saying all of this, I’m sure I wasn’t the only one caught off guard. So in my mind, I was like , well ok let’s have it. I can always learn something new or let’s see how Ave approach it. At the end of the day, it’s a tool for music people, What are we talking about……….,this Shit is too much. As far as the Koala Developer ……..he’s a cool person. I remember when the the Koala app first dropped, I was one of the first people to get it and I remember emailing back and forth with him and telling him the bugs I was experiencing. So Ave , F those critics. And do some more Koala videos.
@beatprocess
@beatprocess 9 ай бұрын
Word up
@djalbums37
@djalbums37 8 ай бұрын
A yo!! I like how you use efx on your speaking voice! That shits dope! Anyways I really feel what you’re talking about! I think you’re great for music/gear heads! You bring a lot to the table! I appreciate you!
@jeeves_uk
@jeeves_uk 9 ай бұрын
Having the mentality that anyone that reacts or disagrees with you is either a hater or a toll is an incredibly childish mindset to have and I would of expected more from a grown man. This is not a good video, not trolling or "hating" it's true.
@naw2064
@naw2064 9 ай бұрын
This is a complete pack of lies. Remember this guy is a shill for Akai
@UnregularSpace
@UnregularSpace 9 ай бұрын
Ive never heard of this channel before this video. Not a great introduction to the channel.😢. Dissappointed to see him disparage Elf over fans.
@DizzyMakavelli
@DizzyMakavelli 9 ай бұрын
I use Koala and follow you. I saw the video. The reaction is something I don’t comprehend.
@XInbellionX
@XInbellionX 9 ай бұрын
Damn. Your videos on the Koala sampler were the reason that I even bought the app + the addons. Keep doing what you are doing and let the haters fall to the side...
@ScantlessBeatz
@ScantlessBeatz 9 ай бұрын
Ya if someone is shining light on a product good or bad its markting for that brand. I had NO idea who or what kawala was and after seeing all this I want no part to put my hard earned money into a brand like that.
@skeetskeet4515
@skeetskeet4515 9 ай бұрын
Yeah Ave, Weaver Beats bouta be on this situation ponto 😂
@anthonyscott16
@anthonyscott16 7 ай бұрын
Wow Bro. So sorry that you've been treated like this and been put in a position to need to defend your actions. That's very unprofessional behavior by Elf Audio & crew. I saw your vid and found nothing at all toxic about it. In fact, I thought your suggestion about adding a play head was super helpful. I even wondered why didn't I think of that. At the end of the day, your people know you and will continue to support you. Your content & channel are dope, and been dope for years. Keep doing you. Peace!
@JustPete781
@JustPete781 9 ай бұрын
I love koala app, but the whole point of it was simplicity the original idea was to make it like a SP303
@djalbums37
@djalbums37 6 ай бұрын
I’ve been making music since 1991! I’m 50 years old! I’ve stayed low key in the cut like neo sporran steady rocking! It’s been a long ride my peeps! I’ve learned countless lessons along the way! Most important is to never break or bend your true self! That is if you’re a good grounded person! There’s so much to learn it’s best to stay humble! This all comes in time tho! Along to way you’ll be tested and tempted! Mist people learn best hands on so you might want to practice some self checking once in awhile to better yourself! No matter what,, people are toxic and you’ll have to decide if you want to be around that kind of style! Don’t be afraid to walk the path alone at times! A big rule that help me is the rule of 48 hours in which any problem can be resolved or forgotten within! Meaning the problem you have in the moment will be replaced or forgotten so don’t bug out as much! Collaborate with like minded artist in your area! Do or Don’t there is no Try! Last but not least, try not drinking at all! It’s a big waste of time trust me! Peace my peeps! In the words of Jerry Springer, be kind to each other!
@TheTokyoAmducias
@TheTokyoAmducias 9 ай бұрын
You just threw elf audio under the bus for what a handful of koala users said on an unofficial Facebook fan page man… You got trolled and spent this whole video taking it out on the wrong people. You played right into their hands. I love your channel, but this is a very bad look.
@ncxbeats
@ncxbeats 9 ай бұрын
Since i’ve subbed i feel like i’ve seen more videos from you addressing controversy, negativity, toxicity, etc. I understand you gotta defend yourself but just make good beats and good content. Ignore all the BS & smoke n mirrors . That’s all that matters in the end. Letting a bunch of online negative comments get to you like this is ridiculous. I don’t even use Koala, I use the MPC live 2 but You saying not to use a music app because you don’t like the community is not a good assessment. The internet is not real lol . If hate and negativity online really gets to you like this, you probably should see a therapist . This video is attempting to portray yourself as a victim but you’re stepping down your attitude & mindset to the level that the folk who harassed you in the first place
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 9 ай бұрын
There’s literally 4 videos on anything on my as of this year. How long have you been subbed again
@1337murk
@1337murk 9 ай бұрын
​@@AveMcreecurious to know what this comment says, any chance you can rewrite it in English?
@sawssman965
@sawssman965 9 ай бұрын
you good bro, just shake it off like a flea! Personally, i would have called attention to the issue and kept it pushin, but i cant tell you how to feel or act towards perceived disrespect. I dont respect hating on non-negative people. Focus your energy where its deserved! Keep making dope videos, brotha!
@fentanyljones6956
@fentanyljones6956 9 ай бұрын
Scott isn’t Elf Audio. Elf Audio is one dude. His name is Marek. I don’t think he’s heavy in that group at all. Don’t hold all this bullshit against Elf audio, it’s the toxic fanboys. I’ve seen em shit on every hardware device and sampler plugin under the sun saying Koala is the best sampler ever blah blah blah.
@FairchlldMusic1
@FairchlldMusic1 9 ай бұрын
I’ve noticed lately that your channel has become more focused on controversy. Come on man, this is a bad angle and you know it. Stay true to yourself and get back to business.
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 9 ай бұрын
Out of the 100 videos, I have dropped this year only 15 could be considered controversial. So you’re choosing to watch the controversial videos. What does that say about you?
@jae6220
@jae6220 9 ай бұрын
I’ve been watching dude for years. 99% of the time it’s Ave being honest about how he feels on a review or a subject and some company or some random dude who made a beat way back when coming at dude for not bowing down and kissing ass. Real talk why shouldn’t he address a trash community upset at a review about a little known app he took his time out to give attention too?
@FairchlldMusic1
@FairchlldMusic1 9 ай бұрын
@@AveMcree whoa dude, hold up. I’ve been watching your videos occasionally for years, and have enjoyed many of them. I said “I’ve noticed lately”, how much more specific do you want me to be? You’ve allowed a handful of Koala forum guys to get you riled up, and you’re trying to throw shade on Koala and its sole designer by association? Come on man this is garbage. You’re capable of good content, and this is not it.
@MrJemoederopeenstokj
@MrJemoederopeenstokj 9 ай бұрын
How dare you laugh at me, internet!
@djBlindFaith
@djBlindFaith 9 ай бұрын
Elf Audio is a one man operation dude, the commenters in the group are just users. Elf Audio has nothing to do with those comments so don’t twist it. The mods are volunteers. Sampling came from the invention of the FairLight not the MPC, just saying 😉 Imho you’re taking this to heart way too much, don’t stress about it and don’t conflate the words of users of Koala for the words of Marek/Elf Audio. This video is in bad taste as you didn’t do your research on Marek. Dude crested the App because of his love for the Roland SP series… it’s a Labour of love. This video is just going to bring you more hate because you are blaming Elf for the words of individuals. I’ve had an MPC1000 since it launched, was a member of the MPCForums and the MPC community is toxic AF, has been for over 2 decades… so much pretentious clowns. It’s the internet, welcome… chill and do your thing…
@therapcave
@therapcave 9 ай бұрын
I need an Ave Mcree vs Weaver Beats producer battle… I will take bets 😂
@darrenterr3462
@darrenterr3462 9 ай бұрын
Ave...ive watched your vids for about a year...your one of my tech guys on the tube...just like i have others i get more out of them on abelton...your good at what you do....and although i differ from controller use...(i love novation 25 better than mpc mini)...there are some things ive learned about all this gear on YOUR CHANNEL that ive FOUND and incorporated into my production....just like others that take the time to TEACH their perspective on a lot of gear, software, etc....its sad...you gotta spend half and hour to express and defend YOUR already in tact INTEGRITY...im going to keep watching you vids...because i LEARN from you..and btw....WHO ARE THE OTHER GUYS and where are their videos?,...keep the faith baby....
@cleveland1549
@cleveland1549 9 ай бұрын
Sad for them but much appreciated to you Ave!
@boomboombaby9140
@boomboombaby9140 9 ай бұрын
Broke people that can’t afford a MPC or tried a MPC will swear koala sound better than a MPC . I swore koala sounded better than anything on earth until I got a MPC and realized when you make a beat from scratch using drums and instruments from sound packs they come out thin . Take those exact drums and instruments use it on a MPC and they sound beefy high quality.
@JoeCarterDesigns
@JoeCarterDesigns 9 ай бұрын
So frustrating man. I went and watched your Koala video linked above... and LEARNED SO MUCH watching it. Wish the relationship hadn't gone so sideways, cause I'd love to have a chance to watch you do deeper exploration there. love your content man.
@elketerbentzadik
@elketerbentzadik 9 ай бұрын
Ave, I love you and your content. But speaking as a person who has been a "public personality" as a broadcaster and journalist and dealt with people "hating" to the point of threatening my life I gotta say responding to "haters" isn't the move. You're coming super spicy here and it's obvious your feelings are hurt and you're angry. But no. Leave it alone. It's not that serious. You said it yourself. They're poking the bear. They want a response. They want to know they shook you. Don't aknowledge that shit.
@axMf3qTI
@axMf3qTI 8 ай бұрын
It's not a company, there is only one person working on the Koala sampler.
@Cancel-Flip
@Cancel-Flip 4 ай бұрын
hey, I just wanna say as a former sub that all these whiney little self-suck sessions are exactly why I unsubbed. And I'm not a Koala fanboy, I've never even used it before. In fact your videos about the SP404 Mk2 are what convinced me to buy one and it's my favourite piece of gear now. Anyways, I'll leave you to scream at the clouds I guess. Have a good one
@fireintheflesh
@fireintheflesh 4 ай бұрын
Bro you are helpful as hell. Don't get your blood pressure up for these lames! 😂😂😂 Damn i bought Koala based off your video.
@eaglevisionmultimedia9823
@eaglevisionmultimedia9823 9 ай бұрын
Brother your anointing with music studio electronics intimidates people and it makes them jealous. I'm praying for you brother you are extremely gifted and I pray that God continues to bless you channel and your business. GOD Bless you brother. Keep on making that content. Haters will be haters. That is a sign you are on the right path. Keep God first in your life.
@johnviera3884
@johnviera3884 23 күн бұрын
he’s not going to stop making videos. brave and virtuous, now that’s a true hero.
@TheTapaus
@TheTapaus 9 ай бұрын
Dude you need to chill. Don’t get so worked up of what random peeps say on the internet. Koala Sampler developper doesn’t even have anything to do over the fan made Facebook group. 😂 Just chill, let the haters hate and you’re gonna be fine. It’s not a good look to rant so hard over few fb comments and then bash on others.
@BMakk205
@BMakk205 9 ай бұрын
I started using koala app because of you. They should be thanking you for new customers/buyers
@mechantechatonne
@mechantechatonne 9 ай бұрын
I totally support you standing up for yourself. Keep on keeping on!
@CXtheproducer1
@CXtheproducer1 9 ай бұрын
Elf audio is one person, Mereck. Those others are moderators.
@ayokikando
@ayokikando 9 ай бұрын
I did some research and yikes, you’re right. It is just one person, I think Ave might of gotten carried away.
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 9 ай бұрын
No that can’t be an excuse! They have social media marketing, influencers, etc!! They all represent the company!
@tripleeight5608
@tripleeight5608 9 ай бұрын
You, not using Koala to its full potential in your past video feels like a slap in the face to a lot of fanboys of Koala. I feel like its childish to react the way they did. Now, tbh, I feel like it would have been a better video if you had more experience with Koala and you showed us your way of using it to it's full potential. I was hoping for more Koala content from you, don't let this petty stuff stop you. It makes sense to continue just for the views from the haters alone.
@humblewerks
@humblewerks 9 ай бұрын
Ave gave it a decent look as he does any other App. If he even does a look or review is HIS choice because he likes something about it. Sometimes we have to give ppl like Ave time to get to use it enough to use it at it's FULL potential. In the future though, be mindful of how you comment on ppl, you called Ave childish by the way he reacted, then say (don't let this petty stuff stop you. It makes sense to continue just for the views from the haters alone.). Maybe a better way to express it to him may go a long way. I'm just saying.
@tripleeight5608
@tripleeight5608 9 ай бұрын
@@humblewerks Brother, you misread. I said its childish to react the way THEY DID.
@demarwright2384
@demarwright2384 9 ай бұрын
I'm not an Akai fan myself, but I rock with u n ur videos my brother... fuck em, keep doing u!!
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 9 ай бұрын
I’m done with that company and will highlight someone else who deserve it
@tripleeight5608
@tripleeight5608 9 ай бұрын
@@AveMcree Damn…rip koala content… too bad
@the_dude2923
@the_dude2923 9 ай бұрын
Your the goat my man, iv learnt so much from your videos over the last couple of years and can’t thank you anuff for spending your time puting your tutorials together for us to enjoy and learn from, keep do you my man 👍🏽
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 9 ай бұрын
I appreciate that
@drunkenstylus
@drunkenstylus 9 ай бұрын
"Education is the ability to listen to almost anything without losing your temper or your self-confidence." --Robert Frost
@DJeMo
@DJeMo 9 ай бұрын
Hate is easier than any other response, and the shallow has no control over that... They consume themselves and each other in the end...
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 9 ай бұрын
Facts
@camwhite4015
@camwhite4015 9 ай бұрын
slim you got over 100k followers why are you looking at comments from other sites. not to mention you gave them free pub i would even know about that shit if you didnt do a video
@stilltrippin6100
@stilltrippin6100 9 ай бұрын
dam I was looking to get the app to use will at work... welp ill be keeping my monies 🤷🏽‍♂‼ Salute Ave ✌🏾💯 they'll fall in line sooner or later .. keep doing you
@richardwilson7207
@richardwilson7207 9 ай бұрын
He was right when he said that every DAW should already come standard with a mixer and effects, its crazy they waited so long to update just for effects and a half ass mixer that they had the nerve to charge $5.00 for, ridiculous, i mean really what are you gonna do with just 4 busses professionally, not saying its a bad app so far but it does need a little work and a few more features to make it a full DAW
@A.D.G
@A.D.G 9 ай бұрын
Koala "SAMPLER" not Koala "DAW"
@eyeswideopen7199
@eyeswideopen7199 9 ай бұрын
What's the difference between hating on someone or something vs Being critical of someone or something? What is the correct way to call out B.S without being accused of hating? Or should we just accept whatever and not saying anything?
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 9 ай бұрын
Name-calling and not telling the truth are some examples
@3SixSoulz
@3SixSoulz 9 ай бұрын
Ave that end look like a edit when you said “deal with it mutha****a”. I might be wrong but it would’ve sounded and felt so good😂. Keep doing what you do bro haters hate for attention and always trying to get notice
@Mr_Tummy
@Mr_Tummy 9 ай бұрын
IMO Ave, just focus on gear features and tutorials.
@SabcatPrinting
@SabcatPrinting 9 ай бұрын
One good thing from all this… Youve done so many phrases in this vid that will make cool samples. 😉🤪
@lionelluney3063
@lionelluney3063 9 ай бұрын
Cubase had stem separation for a few years now. Since 10 I believe
@WesWookBeats
@WesWookBeats 9 ай бұрын
Did you sign up for the 4 team tournament? Would love to hear you go at it with yo music.
@venericanone
@venericanone 9 ай бұрын
look at the likes dislike ratio on this bro. this kinda content ain't it.
@MrGruv-es8pp
@MrGruv-es8pp 9 ай бұрын
Big ups Ave. Much respect to you homie. I been in the game for 20. And I learn a lot from you. I don't have channel but I follow you.
@outyy550
@outyy550 9 ай бұрын
Bruh, you you one of the coolest on the net. Don't waste your time, your approach is fun and informational. Fools don't know their fools!!! Much respect
@badwave
@badwave 9 ай бұрын
personally i dont really get into the beatmaking side of music, but i've always appreciated how straight up and genuinely intelligent you come off as compared to some people. it's really good to see someone with your level of maturity making an effort to set the standard by putting their foot down and deciding it's no longer enough to just let all the weird hate-mongering continue unchecked in the hope that it'll fizzle out(when quite often it doesn't). hopefully the mindset around all this crap will finally change at some point, and it wont be seen as petty or weak to defend yourself against something you know isn't right. the "i gave you exposure" argument is thrown around in a lot of disingenuous contexts, but in this case you did nothing but share and talk about a product you thought was cool. i had considered checking out Koala at some point based on what i'd heard about it, but... yeah, i definitely don't feel comfortable contributing to them right now- i'm much happier studying Redux and giving my money to companies i'm proud to support. best of luck to you, keep doing what you're doing!
@DJAutism1
@DJAutism1 5 ай бұрын
Wait, since when was a vape company making software? /j
@the.wanginator
@the.wanginator 9 ай бұрын
Appreciate the update mayne. I was on the fence about this one, I'm just gonna keep my lil change after this. They got it.
@humblewerks
@humblewerks 9 ай бұрын
100% Ave, keep it moving bro. I really don't chat much, I've been making MUSIC (not just beats) since 1985, been watching your channel for the last 2yrs or so. You are a brother of Great character and humility by your actions. Unfortunately, people get really lazy when trying to acquire success. Thery probably never thought you would see their posts. Evidently as a good businessman you follow up on everything you do, which proves my previous compliment. I'm not a paid subscriber but have benefitted GREATLY from your videos, Thanks again Ave Mcree.
@Dubbudha
@Dubbudha 9 ай бұрын
Well maybe, just maybe, it also has to to with those X SE reviews.
@alecsbuga
@alecsbuga 9 ай бұрын
Bro. I saw a thread on Elektronauts because Mattias Holmgren which I actually enjoy following was not over his head with their beloved Octatrack. It has come to shit like “he looks like he just beat his kids”. Like wtf has that to do with Octatrack.
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 9 ай бұрын
Trust, that community getting theirs too! They said some passive aggressive racist stuff about me. Stay tuned
@BigCore-
@BigCore- 9 ай бұрын
Joined a few production-based groups over the past week and I can tell you it's a nasty group of people overall. It gets nastier than politics and/or religion. The sad part is I've met some really cool people in the beatmaker/producer community but none in the same groups.
@lyblyleto
@lyblyleto 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the subtitles! Very useful)
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 9 ай бұрын
You're welcome 😊
@fftunes
@fftunes 9 ай бұрын
@@AveMcree too big and flashy though. At this point, why even have video behind them
@marclemar
@marclemar 9 ай бұрын
YT space weird Af!!! More power to you my G. 💪🏾
@markmallory2528
@markmallory2528 8 ай бұрын
Man look. Keep doing your thing Ave! Your opinion is your opinion. And you being a power user of musical apps, software, hardware devices and dad, I respect the time you can a lot to looking at these things for us who really don’t know what they’re like to work with. You’re a hell of a guy that I really admire, so don’t let others rattle you. This is your thing, not theirs. You put the work in videoing it, editing it and being a dad…talk about a tight schedule! If that’s what makes you happy, then keep on that path and ignore the rest. I like your videos and feel you are doing us the favor. Stay positive and focused. PS, Thank You. 🙏🏽
@KeyesMusic
@KeyesMusic 9 ай бұрын
Ave, I appreciated your review on the Koala app. As someone who has been producing for over 20 year's, if I were to decide convert over from hardware to software, your review is perfect for someone who is making that move. Some of these KZbin producers are Cornballs. Keep up the good work Dog. 👏🏿
@ronburg3663
@ronburg3663 9 ай бұрын
Ave I really think your horrible at what you do ..but you have to have some thicker skin if your gonna jump infront of that camera..you basically paint a bullseye on your forehead when you tell people what bothers you ..just keep doing your thing and pay us no mind lol 😂
@kirkjones2801
@kirkjones2801 9 ай бұрын
I just subscribed to your channel Mr. Mcree and I've been watching you for quite sometime now and I have to say that you are by far the "REALIST" content creator out here. I don't subscribe to many channels but you are special bro.
@inperfectsequence7840
@inperfectsequence7840 9 ай бұрын
Keep going and don't pay attention, thank you always for everything you offer and do for us, let the Haters commit suicide alone, they are not on your right path, for that they have to be born again in another life and have parents of good education.
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