Elite Dangerous - Gets A Second Life - How Frontier Are IMPROVING Things

[@dameion75]

They really need to push atmospheric planets, space walking, and walk around in ships

[@ysfsim]

they really emphasized the fact that the new ship, the Mandalay, has atmospheric handling. Why do that when planets with atmosphere is thing currently? I like to think something is coming

[@tsilb]

And more interesting stuff to find out in the black. Stuff I can scan and bring home, and the scientists are all like, "woah, this changes everything".

[@theblackwhisper]

100%. Two at the top of my wishlist. But now it feels like their resource is going into Colonisation.

[@Squee7e]

​@theblackwhisper please explain how colonization contradicts accessible atmospheric planets 🤔

[@theblackwhisper]

@@Squee7e We won’t be getting anything for a few months while they push the colonisation update. They’re not a big team anymore so them just dropping ship interiors or atmospheric planets is way off, if ever.

[@juggled1973]

Elite Dangerous is like that old friend you rarely see or hear from, yet when you do reconnect, it feels as though no time has passed at all.

[@SierraSierraFoxtrot]

@@juggled1973 and he hasn't changed and still disappoints you.

[@holobolo1661]

Yeah because they haven't added any significant new content in years

[@Theprofessorator]

@@holobolo1661 We've been fighting the aliens back while you guys were all gone.

[@holobolo1661]

@@Theprofessorator Nah I came back for that, was so fun defending in a fully modded shardconda. I couldn't be arsed with the maelstrom grind tho

[@Small-Kitty-Paws]

Which means it's shit game.

[@Ahibasabala]

i'd love Elite to make a comeback, but i've been through enough there to only believe it when i see it

[@saintjames1995]

I dont think itll make a comeback until its back on consoles. They would prove theyre dedicated

[@SledTillDead]

@@saintjames1995 The game runs too bad to work on console. It shouldn't run this bad for the poor quality of visuals, but FDev are fairly incompetent so 🤷‍♂

[@saintjames1995]

@SledTillDead I'm hoping this renewed interest bring better talent ya know?

[@m4r00123]

​@@saintjames1995I think it's more about lack of executive initiative and communication than about lack of talent

[@bandybushido]

Haven’t gone through as much as some quite clearly, it is called commitment and you obviously lack it.

[@kessilrun6754]

What would bring me back? 1. DLSS 3.x + FG support 2. Ship interiors 3. Atmospheric worlds for biology, exploring and colonization. 4. An actual story mode that introduces its super powers, notable figures and sets up the end game.. not just a Galnet story (think Squadron 42). I mean, who doesn't want to meet/ see Aishling? LOL 5. Visitable capitals. Obviously some of these would be long-term goals and not something that releases all in one update. Although? I guess if there were to be atmospheric landings? They could start with capitals.

[@HCforLife1]

Colonization is the first step to bring me back. What I am waiting for next are atmospheric planets - but I think that ship interiors might be first. What you want from the game is unrealistic. I think that full amospheric planets alone is probably impossible. If feasible - we might wait another decade for that at least.Story mode? That's MMO. Capitals? Let's first get some basics of barren atmospheric planets and stable "on foot" framerates for normal locations

[@-OnionTerror-]

I would love an expansive story, ive had the game since it came out but played very little as im not really capable of just playing sandbox games with no real end goal. i think that would draw me in definitively, and perhaps attract new players too

[@kessilrun6754]

@@HCforLife1 Well technically it is an MMO space sim. I mean it becomes a little more apparent, when you get those large initiatives or focused efforts in one area and everyone is not spread out. If they did a SWOTOR type thing and had seasonal themes/ videos/ stories? It would be great in getting people immersed in the world, politics, events etc. I barely even look at Galnet and when I do? It's like "la-dee-freakin-da! Anyway, where was I going?"

[@ruorick]

All of the above are great additions. Giving us some kind of episodic campaign/story that you can visit as an instance would breathe much needed life into the on-foot gameplay and general immersion into the universe.

[@nicknarco]

I worked out my first guardian site by myself without even knowing what they were and following some in-game guidance. Was a pretty cool experience.

[@Elriuhilu]

What I'd like to see is full VR support and the ability to build a little kit home on the surface of a planet. Nothing too elaborate, just a converted shipping container or something with an air bridge to your ship and an attached storage shed where you can keep spare parts and maybe a few cargo pods of something valuable for a rainy day. I haven't played for a while, but one of my favourite things to do in the game is after finishing a stack of missions or cashing in bounty vouchers I would land on a planet and switch off the ship, as if I've done my day's work and now I'm going to relax at home on solid ground. Having an actual camper trailer type thing you could deploy on a planet to be a kind of home outside of your ship would be really nice.

[@jamesansley4679]

I want to hope, but frontier has boned us so many times in the past

[@SgtDangerWaffles]

was thinking the exact same thing...

[@failedlifesupport3208]

After I got burned years ago on xbox with them stopping support i still haven't forgiven them

[@Tepnox]

Don't bother. Just another insane grind mechanic coming up with colonization update. Might have a look but keep the expectations low.

[@chad1682]

boned you....I'm sorry but what do they owe you? Star Citizen is selling ships for thousands of dollars and Frontier has refused to milk their players. They could have done that anytime over the last 10 years.

[@LixRG]

Exactly

[@marc0523]

Interiors would be great. Planets would be cool too. What I really want is some actual missions! Not just pretend, automated, grind, missions. All the missions need is some good voice actors, it doesn't even need to be first person. I can't imagine it would be a massive cost for them to do this.

[@Cleric-Heretic]

Yeah, that would be pretty sweet.

[@HandyTot]

My Dream is something like Falcon 4.0s campaign system but in a game like Elite. Drop in to an AI squad with wingman commands, briefings, etc. and you're essentially surrounded by an on going campaign. Actual missions with actual goals.

[@Musabre]

THIS, the co op mode was supposed to be so much more. My buddy and I would play it to death if it actually supported long term co op goals, like having missions that matter, like you say.

[@underleft]

​@@HandyTotExcep that can't implement into the existing game loops.

[@vastonik]

Voice acting is unionized work and demands minimum pay for livable wages, even if it's just a few lines. For it to be substantial and varied, it will cost a LOT of money unless they did all the voices in-house (which is a skeleton crew now iirc). Considering ED's current player count, I wouldn't bank on anything as substantial as actual narratively driven missions. Who knows, maybe Frontier will allocate more resources into Elite again. I can only hope.

[@Neurion]

Full VR support for when on foot and ship interiors would attract me back to this game so hard. I'm a pure VR player and when Odyssey launched without VR support is when I stopped playing. I picked it up again recently and was shocked that they still haven't added it yet.

[@ultraviper1884]

same. I have hundreds of hours played in VR, when they announced that odyssey wouldn't be in VR it felt kind of like a betrayal. elite is still the most played game in my steam library even though I haven't touched it since march 2021

[@ioritenshi]

And they wont add it. Elite still lacks proper Anti-Aliasing, a basic feature that was pretty common when this game launched. They have much more pressing matters if they want to keep this game alive than pursuing VR for the extreme minority of the playerbase...

[@Vajuras]

It's impossible to play this game flat after playing in VR. Please give us ship interiors we can customize and hang out in while looking out into the cosmos.

[@LimitlessHorizonVRSimrigs]

This comment is absolutely at the core of what I want finished. Give us on foot VR. It's a crime not to complete that.

[@lelegrasso2840]

Same. It was the best VR game ever and they simply trashed it.

[@timbenton450]

Frontier recommitting to Elite aligns with at least short term industry trends. I’m a game dev and from what I’ve heard the common AAA response to recent high-profile failures (Concord, etc) is to turtle-down and be very cautious developing new ips. Frontier has a reliable income source in Elite so they’re willing to hedge on the side of lower risk rather than potential profit. During the pandemic bubble they were probably betting they could release new games with a higher ceiling than Elite. Now that the bubble popped, that’s nowhere near as likely. They’re simply playing it safe.

[@RadimentriX]

lets hope they continue working on the game and improving it. there's so much content that could be added to a game like elite...

[@timbenton450]

Yeah, I’m hoping for at least 2-3 years of improvements! Weirdly, I think the longer the industry is in a slump the longer Elite Dangerous will get updates.

[@RadimentriX]

@@timbenton450 i hope for even more than 2-3 years but i also want them to put some effort in. they could knock it out of the park with the colonialisation or it could be just some really lazy implementation with no depth to it

[@g0dsf3ar71]

So what you are saying is that there is no real drive to create a genuine piece of art, and as soon as the market incentives change again Elite will likely be tossed aside again. Have I got that right?

[@AndrewRyan11]

With your perspective, do you think that these studios see a diminishing ROI in expanding an existing game? I would think that the low volatility of a game like Elite and others like it, would incentivize building out these games but we're just not seeing that with the profit drive. Second to that, since you're a developer. What's the general frontline developer feel about the direction of the AAA studios and about hunkering down to work on existing IPs?

[@TrOuLiOfficial]

if there could be ship interiors and possibility to walk out of ship in deep space by opening doors with additional missions to that like wrecked ships you can walk in to and rescue somebody or fight there or salvage ships like in Star Citizen and more mechanics like that, release it even as a paid DLC

[@grawham]

I think that would sadly have to be an Elite Dangerous 2 type of situation... Which I am 100% here for lmao

[@Linko971]

IF ONLY

[@Macky4941]

​@@grawhamexactly. They should really start working on a new elite title. Can you imagine with everything they've learned. Building the game from the ground up with ship interiors,fps combat all there. Would be better than just adding on to an old engine. They could probably have it out before Scam Citizen releases lol.

[@underleft]

​@@Macky4941What have they learned? They don't seem to have learned anything.

[@Lucpol1986]

Other titles have set the benchmark, so unlikely to happen in this iteration unfortunately.

[@heyspookyboogie644]

If Frontier realizes that things need to be more discoverable in-game without overly relying on 3rd party resources I’ll be shocked. Still don’t know how anyone figures out the guardian stuff without just looking up how on KZbin or something. (Obviously a small handful do, I’m talking about the vast majority of players)

[@Dooguk]

Just like real life, there are those that try and those that don't.

[@saintjames1995]

If frontier realizes theres a hungry console player base, id be shocked. I want the comeback

[@MrAden1307]

It's crazy because they explain certain things in so much detail. But then leave out so much more. They still haven't included a way to track everything you have and what your hunting for. And possible locations to get that stuff. Again, they do it for some things and completely ignore it for most other stuff. So irritating having to stop the gameplay just to look something up online. When it should all be there in the menus

[@psyantologist]

a third of what I do in the game wouldn't be feasible without inara - and half would be painstakingly impractical ^^

[@protoshell]

Well, If I hadn't looked it up I still wouldn't know where to get Meta Alloys for the FSD engineer. Unless it's being looked up on the net this entire part of the game would be locked behind the inability of the Devs to introduce their game mechanics sufficiently. Absolutely nothing in this game is explained enough unfortunately. Not to mention that every single event in the game - from thargoid war to searching for the generation ships - passed me completely unnoticed. Nothing in this game is even remotely tied to the player. Unless you're invested on the net's community you will very well have the impression that the game world is completely dead and empty. Very unfortunate, because this game world could be such a massive place of fun, discovery and vibrant gameplay.

[@duke7052]

10 years later and we still can't customize our HUD without manipulating in-game files.... Need I say more?

[@MrZlocktar]

10 years later and we still have only 2 buttons in fire group. This is anecdotal.

[@pppppffffffmmmmmmmnn]

@@MrZlocktar The game has never been more than MMO, combat-wise

[@bandybushido]

Please, stop talking completely then we will be happy.

[@VogterViking]

Ah yes, I would love that too!

[@Anarkitten]

I reinstalled for the PP2 update, but quickly turned it back off after playing with it for a couple hours. I realized that despite these new updated features, which aren't bad by any means, are still fostering the same old gameplay loops I've been doing since 2014. I've started taking longer and longer breaks from the game since Odyssey, with this latest round being a year long break. I get a little nostalgia in my head about the game I enjoyed 10 years ago, the hope I had for it, and that burns away as soon as I get back in my ship and see through the slick coat of paint that was applied with updates.

[@0LoneTech]

PP2 features a broken leaderboard, lowered rewards and doesn't tell us where we're under attack. And of course the drastic "rebalancing" to punish players for trying to figure out what's going on.

[@dsagent]

After the first 100 hours you realize it is just the same thing over and over again.

[@braisfigueira5032]

​@@dsagent basically what every game is to a degree, repeating the same task over and over with small variations if the game has a story, once you finish the story you usually just can play the same story again

[@LoScorpioneRosso1]

Truth is, it's the nature of the game itself to make the player's interest leak over time. In the end, what really catched my eye at first was space exploration, going to find Neutron Stars, Black Holes... And the game is great at it, traveling is good. Is it monotonous? Well yes, as much as driving a car is, but the point of piloting a space ship is piloting the space ship. The problem is, for me, that the game is punishing towards players that wants to actually try the contents (After the insane grinding you have to do, the Rebuy screen is bullshit, just let me respawn without risking to lose the ship I spent time customizing and engineering). If it wasn't for that, I would have fought the giant Thargoids too, and I'd be much more daring to face stronger enemies and longer/risky travels towards the center of the galaxy (where, though, exploration is the only possible content as you're too much far from the Bubble). I was thinking, that maybe it would have been interesting to focus on in-planet missions (maybe making colonized planets actually full with cities and air traffic), and something like a Singleplayer/Coop Campaign mode which explains us the lore behind Elite Dangerous through characters and missions. That could perfectly cohexist with the standard game. Like, imagine choosing a faction in Powerplay... After playing some campaign missions (maybe as different commanders) that explains good and bad about each faction. Oh and, of course, cutting ties with 3rd party sites and update the game with an in-game resource search engine to know where to find what we're looking for. I'm still absolutely livid for EDDB.

[@tacticalmattress]

@@LoScorpioneRosso1 Good comparison to driving a car for long periods, or even when you just don't want to drive. It's exactly the same feeling ahahaha

[@Joe-xu8dx]

full VR support for Odessey would have me back in an instant

[@vskane]

I've always been able to employ multiple pilots and to buy multiple ships. But no ships fly and nobody does any work unless I'm in the room with them. Give me the facility to send off my NPC's to trade or mine while I'm off doing fun stuff. Sure they'll get blown up sometimes but wouldn't that encourage me to train up Elite NPC's and give them well armed freighters. Semi-passive income! That would bring me back for sure.

[@bunker1213]

It would also bring use to my 30+ ships I don't fly because I can only fly one of my ships at the time.

[@MattVarnish1103]

That game is X4

[@gh0stcloud499]

That would be amazing!

[@KR-fm1cj]

I was on console 3 years ago counting down to Odessey, but they dropped a bomb on me that I waited for nothing and paid for the base game for nothing, that left a foul taste in my mouth. This year I was graced with my 1st gaming PC, but I'll never forgive Frontier, resentment is an understatement as to how I feel towards them.

[@KR-fm1cj]

I was on the PS4 and upgraded to the PS5 only to be given the finger😂

[@mattutes]

Same on PS4. But I got a gaming PC arriving in a couple of weeks. So I'll go on the transfer portal and have a look around.

[@robwilliams1508]

I was playing on PS4 and was disappointed as well with Odyssey not being released on console. Hadn't played in 2+ years, but just a few weeks ago transferred my game from console to PC, bought Odyssey for $12 from Frontier and am enjoying the game again. I'm looking forward to colonization but I'm sure its a tease just like GTA6 scheduled to come out a year after their announcement. I don't know anyone who can hold their breath that long!! But eventually I believe it'll come out.

[@mattutes]

@robwilliams1508 did everything transfer across okay? Were there any things like engineers or fed/imperial ranks that you need to do again?

[@nicktarboxphotography1045]

Same here, was so looking forward to odyssey, which was then scrapped for console, I am now hooked on no man's sky, just shows what can be done.

[@420inportland]

My #1 request would be to fix the VR viewpoint, so you can have a seamless experience in ship and on foot. Don't need no fancy motion controls or anything, just fix the viewpoint so it works like in does in your ship while on foot, LIKE THEY SAID THEY WOULD WHEN THEY TOOK MY MONEY FOR ODDESSY. Elite USED to be the best VR experience out there, and then they just pissed it away and treated their VR community as if we didn't matter, which is a real shame. I know many VR people who would come back if they fixed the VR viewpoint on foot, but we remain doubtful it will ever happen at this point.

[@cetifoxproductions]

Just you watch. Colonization will be run similarly to the fleet carriers---which I have zero use for or interaction with--and will be as costly, if not more so. It will be as painful and grindy and, except for those with ridiculous amount of credits, nobody will participate in.

[@valorin5762]

I love my carrier and find it very useful. We'll see what they'll do with colonisation. When it's there.

[@lua9502]

@@valorin5762 true i never go anywhere without my carrier anymore

[@Kissamiess]

You'd be surprised how ridiculous amounts of credits more than a few players have. It's not unheard of to earn 1 bil per session doing AX combat. It'd be nice to finally have a money sink for all that. Oh and fleet carriers are nice.

[@GBCLopi]

@@valorin5762 Maybe they can scale the colonization. For example, creating one planet station in an already populated system. I would limit the amount of hole systems owned by players, to a limit of 2-3 max per player for not unbalance the game

[@0LoneTech]

Best feature of fleet carriers: they now merge into one crowd icon on the system map instead of just breaking it.

[@ShakyChess]

Ive been meaning to jump back in for a while. While the game has its issues, nothing else quite hits the way Elite does. Its great to just put on an audiobook in the background and go for an explore through the galaxy.

[@Musabre]

I must play it differently to you haha, the thought of being disracted by an audiobook just means ill give myself a heart attack being surprised by scary cosmos stuff xD . But i'm the sort whoI has to brace myself before every frame jump because arriving at a star scares the living daylights out of me every time xD Maybe i have astrophobia? 🤔... BAH!, Elite's worth it 😆

[@Ma55ey]

I'm a ps4 player so kind of trailed off elite a while back after they killed galnet and community goals.. but I was playing last week while I had covid... (first time 😂) and man nothing beats finding a cool geological site on some rock out in the middle of nowhere.. or accepting a cargo mission and hitting the elevator button and seeing a station come into view, with all the ships landing and taking off. The music and the station chatter.. then taking off and almost destroy your ship flying out of the letterbox.. "I'll pay that fine when get back" 😂

[@derekbutler4694]

What I want to see in ED 1. Space Legs VR 2. Fully Explorable Stations 3. Walking around our ships 5. EVA (Repairing ship outside of a station)

[@chascoppard]

Full VR support when on foot.

[@Tin_Fed]

I stopped playing because it wasn't implemented. I would start playing again if it was included.

[@imnotgivingmynametoamachine683]

This is the top thing that would get me playing more regularly. VR is so immersive but the FPS flat screen is just so bad...so much could be done there to improve it even without full VR support (a big curved screen for god sakes :D )

[@originalmin]

​@@Tin_FedBut you can just play and enjoy the game as you were beforehand?

[@jamesjacksonmusclethorpe5802]

Right. Just look at the current new feature. "Add NPC's to new star systems!" This is the illusion of content. Full VR support for ground combat? They aren't even trying to improve it. It's been abandoned.

[@0LoneTech]

Maybe maintain VR to begin with. Defects like orbit lines showing for only one eye show they don't. You don't even need stereoscopic display to see how bad the frame rate drops and screen space effects get.

[@robgazzard4432]

Ship interiors, NPC Crew (Navigator, Gunner, Medic, Engineer, Scientist, Scout etc. with unique skills), base building with construction, research, mining etc. Modules

[@jbreefer45]

I want ship interiors and that would make it so much better!

[@chad1682]

yea I'd love to stop somewhere in the vast expanse of the galaxy and just gaze out the mess hall window :)

[@EmperorWSA]

Was watching the Citizen Kate's Star Citizen PTU video this morning about a fully crewed Polaris taking on an Idris. Having the crew at stations, then going over to take over the Idris. Finding another group of players trying to take it over too and fighting over it. Then trying to figure out how to salvage the Idris, while another player group tries to come in and EVA to board the ships....Even for a buggy test realm video that was crazy. It baffles me that Frontier says that they didnt have ship interiors because they felt there wasn't gameplay for it. I just think that the Elite engine cant handle it at all. That is what they should have said from the start.

[@Blaze33405]

Concept of ship interiors is like looking at a drawing on the wall. The novelty will wear off quick. It won't make it better for the long term

[@LixRG]

I totally agree with you, my friend. Unfortunately, every time someone dares to mention ship interiors in the ED community, a battalion of grumpy grandpas immediately rolls out to inform us that it's neither necessary nor something players actually want.

[@RikkiNakesone]

I don't care much for interiors, but i'd like them at the same time. Like with other systems, if they allow it to be a toggle to go straight to cockpit or run through the ship when entering, it'll be a good balance between those who are avid lovers, those who swap between, and those who hate it. That way no one is enforced

[@sntxrrr]

Apart from interiors and good VR compatibility for on foot instead of the silly floating screen, I would love to see more features/realism in the galaxy, the one thing that sets Elite apart from all other space games. We get a lot of close-ups of stars in this game so lets make them better. Giants and hypergiants look very different from what we have in game and red dwarfs could have occasional huge flares like many of them do, these could make fuel scooping more interesting and engaging. I believe Space Engine does pretty decent accretion disks in realtime so that could make black holes and close binaries a lot more interesting. Auroras on gas giants could offer interesting gameplay opportunities. Maybe reset planets around undiscovered systems to better reflect our current knowledge (hello, hot jupiters)

[@Gazooka]

Hopefully the colonisation gameplay will be profitable like we thought fleet carriers were gonna be, put some money into building a small colony, pour more money into it to make a city/spaceport that makes passive income. Also, a city sim vibe would be nice, letting us assemble our city/town to our liking instead of just buying and it automatically appears somewhere random/predetermined on a moon/planet.

[@underleft]

You might be able to place structures manually, but they already said it's all assets already in the game. I highly doubt you'll be able to make passive income except from other players, just like fleet carriers. You won't get a cut from the BGS.

[@tosspot1305]

That's a nice idea but it'll never be happen. Fdev ALWAYS do things half baked

[@SuperExtremeTNT]

The things I need to be brought back to Elite: Ship interiors with seamless chair to planet surface. rework of fleet carriers to not be loose if you don't play mechanic. graphical rework of landable planets to bring to modern standards, not expecting SC just a bit nicer. seamless transition from ship chair to chair of rovers, can exit rover on foot seamlessly. I hope they are working on the next elite game, it will be very difficult to genuinely implement features like these continuously for the next 10 years.

[@captainwallard2788]

These things would bring me back. This is basically my exact list.

[@vermanshane]

Could not have said it better myself.

[@Central_Media3656]

I would come back with this list...it aint happening tho.

[@CGPT76]

Yes! This game needs a new engine! They need a complete new game engine. With a new game engine the new game can live for another 10 years. I bought the game back in January of 2015 and stopped playing in 2020, but came back this summer and I had to learn to fly again. I'm enjoying it again

[@Plorpoise]

I think a lot of the seamless transitions would be nice as an option. I would still like to have the more instant teleportation though. If I'm in a bigger ship I don't wanna have to spend a lot of time making my way to the door every time I want to get out on a planet.

[@Hermslice]

Id love to see better use of VR. And expansion of gameplay!

[@Highlyskeptical]

Odyssey ground VR FTW

[@AgentExeider]

if colonization really does knock it out of the park, I'd like to see Fleet Carriers get a second pass, and some of the suggestions people have come up for them be implemented to make them not just a place to land, but an actual home and a component in the productivity chain.

[@JimBobJoeB0b]

They really, really need to improve official documentation and tutorials. Like, *bring back the living manual updates*, flesh out the handbook to give more details on game mechanics, update and expand the tutorial videos, stop forcing players to rely so damn much on googling *just to learn how to play the game*. There’s a reason this game is so infamous for its steep learning curve, and if they’re really trying to draw in a wider audience (which would be AWESOME), those are a couple ways they could help improve the experience.

[@userunknown4331]

Rip to us console players that were left in the past

[@PakessoMukash]

Honestly, I think we have the better version. No on foot combat stuff. 🤭

[@andyd8370]

Console always behind PC, regardless of game.

[@marcusperne1817]

ED is really dead for me since they dropped consoles. I don't want to buy a new PC only to play ED on it. That would be stupid.

[@targaryenforlife9685]

​@@marcusperne1817Couldn't have said it better myself. Shame. I loved this game.

[@kirklandash7815]

If you have xbox you can play the pc version of elite on GeForce Now, it works pretty good for me

[@yarost12]

I goddamn hope they upgrade the engine at least a bit, we need better on foot performance and fixed AA.

[@Plorpoise]

Very true. Plus the shadows! From what I've read the shadow thing can be a bit tricky but having them work well would really help to polish up the planetary experience.

[@yarost12]

@@Plorpoise imho AA is the biggest issue of Elite at the moment graphics wise, there are so so many straight lines in the game everywhere, from stations to ships, having everything be jaggy as f makes the presentation look like ass, especially now in the age of TAA where everything looks smooth as butter.

[@Dan-mf2dl]

If you have an RTX gpu you can use dldsr from nvidia control panel and FSR in the game menu combined to get a good AA solution and an increase in fps.

[@user-vo7cu5xc5u]

As a new player I'm loving this game. Honestly loving it. Just bought my asp explorer but wanting the krait phantom. Feel like I have so much to learn and enjoy with engineering etc let alone all the exciting new developments. Also after playing star citizen I couldn't care less about ship interiors. Elite truly is Elite and light years ahead ✨

[@High-Live]

They should FIX all these grafical bugs - flickering shadows, anti alasing and many odyssey stuff, and so on. AND THAT push out more content.

[@DavidKnowles0]

I suspect a graphical update next year or two, as Planet Coaster 2 cobra engine have receive updates such as ray tracing.

[@zacky7572]

This game needs so many serious QoL improvements. Adding new content is downright irresponsible with the game in its current condition.

[@Jimamania]

Man the anti-aliasing is what really gets me the most, its awful

[@tacticalmattress]

@@Jimamania Eh, it's not as bad as some ubisoft games. It doesn't bother me too much, but it definitely would be nice to get some decent Aliasing

[@tacticalmattress]

@@Jimamania But i also play in 4k so, that's probably why

[@johnnyutah411]

Ship interiors would be great, but if they want to make players happy maybe they should deliver on features that people want (and are willing to pay for, hello frontier?) and not ban people from the steam forums for asking about these features. It appears frontier want to bring ED back... I want to believe!

[@sunixjester]

My fear is that the damage has been done and the remedy is too late

[@Peterdeskater100]

I intend to get back into Elite. Most likely playing a s a space trucker. I loved the feeling of just cruising through space in VR with my sluggish Type 9

[@GubrikGaming]

We will never be completely satisfied with Elite's content, due to the very nature of the game.

[@ArokhX]

What would I like to see in the game? The obvious one is ship interiors for all craft. Further, I want to see all elements of the game fully compatible with VR. That includes on foot and inside our ships.

[@Mosquita_cl]

something i would like to see in the future, is exploting Oddyssey Potential, if Frontier adds a more options, increase the interactivity and add Vehicle/Ship sinergy, The oddyssey content can be a really fun and great Imsim

[@Scarecr0wn]

- Ship interiors (and whatever type of content FDev would be able to add to it) - EVA content - On-foot content in space station (deelict, populated, whatever) - Actually story driven mission chains - New biomes + full atmosphere, expanding colonization to on ground bases If these things would make it to the game, I would shower FDev with major part of my expendable income and support.

[@MrFronginson]

- Autopilot Spending 5-10-20 min on a flight to nearby systems watching the same views on a screen is a pain

[@tuttorouge]

As ps4 player i left elite years ago… now… those ships… the colonization.. just made me transfer the account to PC! Im one of those old new returning guys!

[@intelrecon]

Light weather effects on planets. A middle way for ship interior could be a walkable bridge. I think this would help a bit with immersion. And yes the panther clipper of course. ;-)

[@Reklawization]

Left a few years ago, but now I'm back and its better than ever! This game can still grow.

[@wheelerzg76]

ship interiors, planets rework, seamless transition from ship to surface

[@BinfordOver9000]

Pretty wild how I didn’t know anything about the state of ED, and just randomly got the itch to play again last weekend. Good timing

[@mathewchild2492]

Water world landings and undersea bases. The orca, dolphin and beluga were clearly designed to be amphibious, they could also resurrect the Moray Starboat for cash sales Also i would like to see shuttles. Allowing transfer of goods, passengers and players onto stations from a mothership that's too large

[@talaris-uk]

For the time being these are things No Man’s Sky does really well.

[@underleft]

Just because they have aquatic names doesn't mean they were designed to be amphibious. Thats just the inspiration of their design.

[@CelticArmory]

Only 1 ship I'd be willing to pay real world money for, and that's the Panther Clipper from Frontier: Elite 2

[@LukazChrom]

There is ONLY 2 Answeres to the question: Either Ship Interiors AND/OR actual Atmo. Planets. Only those can TRULY bring Elite back to its golden times ... and perhaps surpass them. ... One can at least dream.

[@mrpositronia]

Ship interiors are a subjective requirement. Atmospheric planets cannot happen with this old game engine. Maybe we could expect both in Elite V, but I doubt we would see that for many years.

[@LukazChrom]

@@mrpositronia "Subjective"? I don't even know what you mean by that anymore. It is an awseome feature, absolutely feasible, desired by the vast majority of the community and to put the cherry on top: It was promised by David Braben (The Founder and President of FDev) himself.

[@cammednslammed]

as a console gamer, i legit hate frontier Dev for abandoning us.

[@CelticArmory]

If Egosoft can do ship interiors for X Rebirth and X4, then Elite can do it.

[@boostfrog]

Egosoft is like 3 dudes working out of Bernd's house, and they routinely implement things Frontier say are too difficult to do. Their results might be a bit ugly and cumbersome at times, but they do it. Frontier can't even be bothered to put in a blurb to hint you in the general direction to find meta-alloys.

[@blue_beephang-glider5417]

100,000,000,000 Stars is exactly the problem. I played the game for a year and only once saw a human player!!! The game needs to easily channel players together without online research or studying bulletin boards, its a game not a university degree...

[@ohwowitsagiraffe3372]

Just got the game about a week ago and haven't left the starter systems yet because space is scary

[@Afro__Joe]

When you decide to, I recommend finding a player faction you like and joining up with them, it brings more life to the scary space out there and helps reveal all sorts of things to do. I'll avoid shilling for my group here. 😀

[@cmdraxilleas1913]

Never fly without a rebuy.

[@hcsvoicepacks]

All good, and fabulous title - again, way before it's time... Have faith people, much is coming, we're sure

[@robilotte11]

the news recently made me go back to the game, not played it properly since before oddissey. im really enjoying it. the sco boost thing is great, its surprising how such a small feature changes the game, specially exploration, and the buff to materials makes it a breaze to engineer things now. im making a new deep space exploration and really enjoying the exobiology, it gives me an excuse to go down to the beautiful planets and also make a lot of money. also, performance is much bettter, not had problems with that i think some of yous are too frustrated with the game because they have some massive expectations of what it should be. but right now its quite enjoyable if you properly give it a try i think

[@Eco_Monk]

Honestly pretty exciting. Would love to see ship interiors obviously but also engineering gameplay. I think this concept that we’re about to see with Star Citizen would fit incredibly well in Elite. Feeling hopeful! Great vid!

[@PocketDrummer]

More than anything, I think Elite needs to overhaul its game play loops to make them more engaging. 1. Make scanning for exobiology something that requires a bit of skill. Instead of a standard "scan 3 and you win" mechanic, have a completion meter with 3 possible outcomes. If you fail, you have to find another one (they might be right next to each other, so not he end of the world) and it doesn't move the meter. If you just do okay, then the meter goes up, but you still need to find more. If you nail it, have the meter go up significantly. Or, if they keep it at 3 scans, have the amount of money gained dependent on how well the scan was performed. Give players the option to scan another to top up the overall quality of the scans to get the max returns. The little spinning wheels are already there, just make them do something fun. Holding down a button isn't good game play. 2. Redesign laser mining so that you are charging up the laser and have to let it go at the optimal range rather than just holding it down. Too low and it won't release much. Too high, and it burns up some of the materials. Just right and you get a larger quantity of pieces that come off. 3. Have multi-trip trading missions that take you in a loop and give decent rewards. That way the game is giving us trading routes that are profitable and feel tied to the game rather than relying on 3rd party websites. 4. On-foot mining for precious gems or something delicate and valuable. This may require adding cave systems to the game or allowing for EVA. 5. Speaking of EVA, add EVA so that players can exit their ship when exploring and manually repair damage. This would make exploration more engaging. If we have ship interiors, repairing modules with little mini-games would be a HUGE improvement. 6. Make sub-surface mining more profitable. This is one of the more engaging mining options available, but nobody does it because it's not as profitable as the other two.

[@daviddesrosiers1946]

I have recently returned to Elite, on PC this time. I left after returning from Distant Worlds 2, having been a console player since 3303. The game is much improved, I believe. I still am adamant about wanting ship interiors.

[@TyDaleChannel]

I feel like ive seen so so many complaints about Elite over the years. KZbinrs ranting, book writers quiting... But im here, ive always been here, a player since 2014 just flying along, blowin up titans, scanning plants, and doing every other activity they offer in game. Happy as ever.

[@imnotgivingmynametoamachine683]

Realistic expectations are the key! Honestly, how many people haven't gotten their moneys worth? I've paid less than $100 total for both games and all ARX purchases and I've gotten thousands of hours of entertainment. How often can we say the same thing about other real world purchases? Most of us pay more each month for electricity but we get so worked up about something we've paid less for and gotten more use out of than so many other things in our lives.

[@Oz-zy3ie]

You guys talk sense. Very rare in the KZbin comments section.

[@CMDRArcanic]

I like how you still use horizons for b-roll footage. Objectively better lighting scheme imo, stars actually cast colors

[@shth34d57]

I won't be coming back without ship interiors. It was part of the reason I bought it to start with.

[@starmonyaerospace9795]

If it was a dealbreaker, why did you buy it, then? I'm sure it wasn't there when you bought it, nor was it promised.

[@shth34d57]

@starmonyaerospace9795 It was promised, along with an offline mode...so no, it wasn't a dealbreaker at the time, because they said they were going to do it. Did you look up anything before replying? It is a dealbreaker for me to come back...which is what I said. I figured that was obvious.

[@Zash_Zash]

for my personal taste, this game needs more incentives for open play or more multiplayer/online focus gameplay. Pvp is a bit ass in this area. Have pvp areas or zones, contested areas for high risk and reward. Make police quicker responding and stronger depending on the system and traffic on the area. Can have coloured areas in galaxy map showing system sector safety. If space stations are coming out i want to be able to raid player carriers or fight them haha

[@greatwhitnorth]

Ship interiors is what’s needed

[@robertjones8856]

Iv just discovered this game, I'm on Playstation and even though it's not supported with new updates..I love it. Wish they would look again at some point at consoles, but I understand the decision they made. Great channel here, excellent videos presented and explained well. Best wishes all, enjoy!

[@tonytheantony]

Got to Elite status back in the day on the Amiga A500. When Frontier brought it back to life I never jumped on the bandwagon. Obtaining a PS5 then realising support was doomed....still am tempted to give it a go on PS5...

[@JimJamsMusic]

Not long ago we were considering that this might be the end, and now we're excited for the future of Elite again. I'm just along for the ride now.

[@Musabre]

Im not saying it's had anything like the journey No Man Sky did, but I DO hope one day i can play it and look back and think "wow it's come so far!". I really do hope they keep trying to improve it and add to it.

[@JimJamsMusic]

@@Musabre Same here, really hope so.

[@billmankin6204]

All I want to say is, after four years, it's good to be back. Thanks Frontier for reviving the franchise, and thanks to you for your continued thoughtful and engaging commentary. What do I want to see most? Balance in PvP so we have a fighting chance of evading chain interdiction and ganking. PvP survival to play in Open shouldn't be easy, but it shouldn't be impossible either. Maybe the new "cool tech" we had hinted from recent Galnet posts will be a way to make this happen, perhaps a mechanic where you have to trade cargo capacity and speed for silence and invisibility. Risk vs reward.

[@brucethen]

Big year this one 10 years of Elite Dangerous 20 years of WoW 30 years of warcraft 40 years of Elite

[@jakubwailguny5569]

Years ago, I was so stoked for the possibility to have a friend be part of my crew. Two PC's in the same room, couple of beers, good space shoot-em-up with great sounds and overall atmosphere? That sounds like fun! So I bought an extra copy for whoever sits in the second chair. "Just hop into my ship and man this station. Oh, but first you need to map your fire groups, of course..." ... "Hmm, would you like to take that onboard fighter for a ride? Thought so, but first - map your fire groups..." ... "Fighter destroyed? Just man the original station again. But first, uh, map your fire groups..." ... "Fighter replenished - hop into it again, would ya? Just, uh, you know... Map the fire groups..." We've played exactly ONE session as one crew. Devs couldn't have possibly played their own multi-crew creation for more than a minute. Space legs with horrid gameplay? Passed. Carriers for people with no life oustide ED? Passed. I haven't played for more than two years now and probably not coming back.

[@lukaszkwarciak7901]

I'll come back to E:D, when they'll add ship interiors with seemless transition between interior, exterion and bases like in Star Citizen.

[@bandybushido]

We don’t want you, so stay precisely where you are, nothing but the chaff and we need the wheat.

[@captainyossarian388]

Cautiously optimistic. I've liked the Thargoid war, the new ships especially the new king of exploration the Mandalay, and the new power play system. Improving the skybox was a nice touch too.

[@Kyokushin4]

One mew good ship - Mandalay - pushed new life to the game.

[@0LoneTech]

Having paid for "all paid expansions" and not gotten access to that, I'm not so sure.

[@slinkerdeer]

@@0LoneTech Lol what a joke, you just lumped another reason for me to stay the F away. What a shame it is such a great game and concept is handled by frontier

[@MaurizioCrd]

I gave this game for dead until a year ago... Happy to see I was wrong! Actually, I'm seriously considering returning....

[@MidgetRacer8192]

for as much headache Frontier have caused, yet they still somehow kept players (mostly) hopeful & refusing to totally give up on the game. perhaps they finally realized they can still make ED king of space games again. seems all the other space games have floundered or flat failed... there is a chance to make things really awesome.

[@Restilia_ch]

I am an *old* Elite player, December 2015 was when I got my start. I had grown disinterested with the game for so many years, but now I'm back in and I'm loving it.

[@heyspookyboogie644]

I really want to know the behind the scenes of what changed their attitude.

[@rafaelpolissperandio4222]

Money

[@KingOfTheSoulSociety]

Their stock tanking due to poor-to-mediocre performances from their other games, they basically used ED as backbone to fund additional projects like the Jurassic World games, of which the first did well but the second did not. Between that, Odyssey, and the abandoning of console, their value has plummeted the past 2 years and so the corpos are panicking and trying to salvage said backbone.

[@RoninX33]

Money and the failure of their publisher attempt.

[@LixRG]

Looks like they made a few brilliant financial moves with other IPs, while ED, despite its modest but loyal player base, was left to hold down the fort. Well, maybe it’s time to finally renovate that fort.

[@Plorpoise]

With what others said, I think them using the new early ship monetization strategy helped a lot too. As much as some people don't like it; frontier needs the money lol. And if that money happens to come from E:D and further incentivizes adding more ships and content? Go for it imo.

[@PixelGrid86]

Elite is a game that drew me in heavily when I started but then I started to realize there wasn’t anything to do. The epitome of a mile wide and an inch deep.

[@maxfaded]

They need to fix the servers and carrier bartender. But yeah, I've been playing a lot for the first time in several years. I still love this game.

[@0LoneTech]

If there's one thing they've shown, it's that fixing things they broke doesn't go on their "need" list.

[@maxfaded]

@@0LoneTech "Here at Frontier we aim to maybe think about probably getting within the bare minimum conversation."

[@spacefarer1]

Exploration ie things like more new plants. treasure, new rocks, maps and animals spread out over the galaxy

[@apanmarius]

4:30 it would be amazing if they added ship interiors, maybe add various presets of the interiors like a "bounty hunter" theme or a "trader" one or "exploration" or "mercenary" or "soldier" etc. have the normal pathway u take to get out of the ship stay the same, then the other part is customizable like i said in the previous sentence

[@paulbeades6681]

Randomly felt the need to pick up elite again after six or seven years. Gotta say, super impressed. It’s gorgeous. So many layers. And what feels like a real and dynamic galaxy. It’s epic.

[@Bromopar]

As a returning player to Elite: Dangerous I am really happy with the state of the game right now. It remains to be seen how long my enthusiasm will last but the game looks better, runs better and the new Power Play 2.0 is looking like it will actually be fun to play. I'm hopeful that this will continue.

[@wildmonkeycar]

I'll keep watching from the sidelines, until I've seen that they truly care about us, again. As of yet, I'm still thoroughly unconvinced

[@Vegasjoe2020]

The worst mistake they made was not keeping the console version updated because they didn't want to bother paying for more developers; they could have just simply charged the community if they needed more money. This is why they lost so much player base over the years. The community should just buy out Frontier and build the game the way it should be built. I'll come back when that happens.

[@soundfx68]

Killed my PS Squadron

[@daneallsaleem3174]

They would have to continue that support on the PS5 and Xbox series X since the PS4 and Xbox one have inferior hardware. I doubt they can handle all the updates without sacrificing a lot of performance.

[@keysersozeh3576]

I think it was the best thing they have done. The game has moved forward so much since they stopped sacrificing features to work with console.

[@Thin447Line]

Good luck with that. You could start your own game company, hire developers or learn to code yourself and make the most perfect space sim game with everything you ever wanted. Then deal with the inevitable critics who are perpetually dissatisfied and cry out saying, "We should buy him out and build the game the way it should be built." Enjoy the game for what it is. If you don't like it, don't play.

[@Vegasjoe2020]

@@keysersozeh3576 It doesn't take much to port something over to from pc to console they simple didn't want to pay the developers to do such coding. Elite dangerous hasn't gone anywhere really since they stop supporting console. They could have gone a lot more done if they kept it. Everyone know it.

[@kitwood4610]

I came back to Elite shortly after the early release of the Type-8 after hearing of the updates that were getting applied and before the hype of Powerplay 2.0 and I'm honestly so happy that I did and this has been the only game I've been interested in since. It seems Frontier has turned a corner and is giving the game the attention it needs and deserves. I'm genuinely excited about what is to come for the future of Elite Dangerous.

[@heyspookyboogie644]

It would be really interesting to see elite with two modes instead of online and solo/private, have “ridiculously difficult for no reason” for the hardcore gatekeeper type players and “actually a game, not a job” for everyone else.

[@Sciirof]

I’m an astronomer and playing this game I fell in love with exploration. I’ve been living outside the bubble out in deep space over year now with my fleet carrier, I hope colonisation will have some narrative for us explorers, even if it is limited to small outposts (like the abandoned ones you can find). But from what we know at the moment it seems like we will be locked to having to actually create an economy for entire star systems locked to expanding the bubble (Which I get since it ties in nicely with powerplay 2.0). But still it would have been nice to have a small outpost as an explorer such as a mining outpost to collect minerals or other things and having a place to call home on the surface of a planet out in the black

[@Zrokool123]

I love this game, but killing console support ruined it for me. I have a gaming computer and i was able to shift things over there, but none of my friends have a gaming pc. So now i can only play this alone.

[@comfortsnail6342]

Have you heard of Mobius PVE? They have a discord you can apply and then atleast theres a chance you could wing up/bump into other CMDRs in the Bubble

[@Theaxolotl46]

GeForce now look it up you can even use it on your console as long as it isn’t BS PlayStation

[@noel350]

As a software developer, I never promise until I know I can deliver. Hate being press-ganged into promises I can't keep. When the deadline inevitably slips by - they can't come at me with a "...but YOU said, YOU promised!"

[@CaptConfusion71]

Until and unless they put in ship interiors, I won't be back.

[@macmusica]

UNTIL VR SPACE LEGS & SHIP INTERIORS they can get fecked.

[@chad1682]

They've avoided selling ships for a decade and nobody gives them any credit for that....

[@0LoneTech]

The ARX stuff really drove me away.

[@durt214]

So the bare minimum should now be praised? The gaming community has been thoroughly cowed to accept atrocious quality games and exorbitant prices for cosmetics.

[@chad1682]

@@durt214 sadly yes. Software engineers and artists will not work for peanuts. updates have already been pretty slow and unimpressive so do you want that to get worse?

[@durt214]

They couldn't bother to grow E:D with actual meaningful updates, leading to worse updates, leading to less engagement and sales, leading to less money generated, leading to the mess that was Odyssey. They realised that if they can't get money from selling game copies to actual interested players and growing their playerbase like a normal developer, they might as well take the easy way out and milk the game with paid ships.

[@chad1682]

@@durt214 well i don't know what to tell you. Maybe more developers should make similar games. There is a shortage of competitors. Innovation is driven by competition.

[@shockwave2291]

Adding landable atmospheric planets and actual flora and fauna (+human cities) alone would be a MASSIVE boon to the game. This has probably been the number one requested feature (beyond space legs) since I first played Elite 7 years ago, and it still hasn’t been done.

[@thewise3551]

Looking to the future and not dwelling on the past. What a fine philosophy you have.

[@Tom__L]

As a LEP owner, I am still waiting for a kind of value out of it. 😕

[@DCYEAH]

Ship interior and/or first-person revamp would bring me back. Also, as others mentioned atmospheric planets with cities and liquid.

[@kUdtiHaEX]

I’ve been playing Elite from day one constantly for years. Then it just got boring and I got tired of grinding, so I stopped playing. Then a FPS mode came out and it looked promising but still that somehow was not enough. Carriers were cool addition, I am not going to lie, and I started playing the game again for a while, but stopped after a few months. Now I am more of a passive observer than a player. And from what I’m seeing in 2024 and plans for 2025, I think that they are doing good things for this game. Colonization sounds interesting and I like new ships. Hope to see more of that in 2025. The one thing I really really wish that they will fix is awful AA and rough, sharp edges of everything. No matter which GPU/CPU combo I had, the AA in this game looked really awful. Anyhow, I am looking forward to come back and start playing again, I might even start from scratch. Hope that they will continue with this course of action.

[@roberttaylor2805]

Duuuuude this what ive been asking for. Exploring finding eathlike worlds. Gathering supplies for colonists and helping build colony that you personally have founded. Thats amazing.

[@padeksewenejt1032]

1. Ships interiors 2. True triple screen support, means 3 separate cameras (or views) : 1. camera on a left monitor -> view is turned 60 degrees to the left, 2. camera on a center monitor -> view is 0 degree (dead ahead) 3. camera ona right monitor -> view is turned 60 degrees to the right all three views blend togeather creating super wide panoramic view across 3 monitors but understandably without distortions meaning the perspective is correct all the time. do not confuse it with already possible stretching a view from one monitor to other two monitors (nvidia surround and other bs) as it still will show you only one monitor worth wide view only presented on three monitors which will never be a panoramic view and will always create distortions on side monitors.

[@pahking66]

It’s the idea of colonization that you previously mentioned that has renewed my interest in this game. I will keep an eye out for your continued coverage of this development.

[@Seussenshmirtz]

Ship interiors and the game would be THE space game

[@Kev-Mulv]

It's certainly a more developed game than SC.

[@NUM-19]

Still need the ability to land on planets

[@Seussenshmirtz]

@@NUM-19 that already exists

[@Cmdr_Amethyst]

THANK YOU @ObsidianAnt - ship interiors are something I am also really keen to see, and I wait with bated breath to see whether it ultimately comes to fruition =] Thanks for yet another awesome video =D o7