[Elite: Dangerous] THE THRONGLER

[@bohba13]

My favorate part is when he said said it's throngling time and he throngled all over them.

[@CrimsonGamer99]

See, I knew someone was gonna make this joke, so I actually put that in there.

[@bohba13]

@@CrimsonGamer99 which is what caused me to make it

[@CrimsonGamer99]

@@bohba13 oh god I created a paradox.

[@pearcomputers]

@@CrimsonGamer99 i play horizons 3.8 by choice & limp about in a totally non-engineered DBX cos it's So cheap to run.. I think it unlikely I would survive a throngling, were I to encounter 1 on my travels :D

[@CrimsonGamer99]

@@pearcomputers 1:16 was an non/lightly engineered DBX. It appears to have been one-shot.

[@TheMysticalTank]

This is why I explore. I’m afraid of two things, the Thongler, and jumping into an exclusion zone.

[@LordTyph]

What about, theoretically, both happening?

[@TheMysticalTank]

@@LordTyph I guess I’ll die.

[@TianfangsAdventures]

You were so preoccupied with whether or not you could, that you didn't stop to think if you should. I can't wait to run into someone trying to copy this build and bungling it.

[@CrimsonGamer99]

Yeah, I can totally see someone doing the guns and distro and skipping the sinks and B-rated armored internals and then crying when they melt themselves in 5 seconds.

[@Sir-Complains-a-Lot]

​@@CrimsonGamer99 okay, but why the b rated sensors? are they the usual target in pvp?

[@CrimsonGamer99]

@@Sir-Complains-a-Lot no but if they're lightweight, they'll get cooked off first. Also I wanted more mass for more ram damage.

[@Sir-Complains-a-Lot]

@@CrimsonGamer99 youre so Evil! i like it!

[@cmdrreggit]

Niccccccce.

[@zazdangerous]

Moral of the story: Never throngle with another thronglers throngler

[@WillPhix]

This is what we need against the Thargoids. Thargoids beware, the Throngler is coming for you.

[@Ciaranosp]

Me and my Cutter: I fear no man... but that thing -points at Throngler It scares me.

[@serbanstein]

No, not really. You can just wake with a Cutter. No shame in it, despite what the PvP cummunity would like you to think

[@Turboy65]

It'd be nice for ED to add a Custom Shipwrights dynamic to the game, where you can build a ship to any specification you are able, and then sell that ship in a marketplace accessible to all players. Use that as an in-game revenue source.

[@pearcomputers]

I doubt if LON:fdev will consider that part of dave's role now.. perhaps if EDH3.8 is liberated in the future, open dev could finish 1t... perhaps xx

[@slingitsideways]

Then people will complain it's P2W, people offering builds for real money outside the game and the buyer goes to the sellers FC and buys it for like 1 credit in game. He's given you the build blueprint for free and all it is a couple of hours material and engineering. Why are people so lazy?!?

[@iamlegend5900]

@@slingitsideways How about your frontier account links to said marketplace and you use your in game credits

[@Kondiqq]

@@slingitsideways Make lowest price possible to set as the sum of base prices of ship+modules used in specific build

[@meidomiseri]

This is amazing, and also I was wondering recently if a Krait mk2 can be a decent combat ship but this proved it most certainly can be!!

[@Jenn-lq9yu]

The Krait is literally the single most commonly used PvP and ganking ship in the game. You will see more Kraits in PvP combat than literally any other ship.

[@artist686]

@@Jenn-lq9yu FDL has entered the building

[@Jenn-lq9yu]

@@artist686 I have seen far more PvP Kraits than I have FDLs. Like, FDLs definitely aren't uncommon, I won't pretend they are. But when I get interdicted, 9 times out of 10 it's a Krait.

[@howardxu8050]

Well the FDL can’t jump any maniningful distance, the krait can

[@OkuuTheEngineer]

The amount of aggression you exude with this thing is absolutely unreal. Fantastic.

[@EvonixTheGreatest]

3:10 Ahh yes, the classic lithobreaking maneuver

[@mostlyjoe]

You: *headbuts Anaconda* Anaconda: Takes that personally. Also Anaconda: *explodes*

[@Volkaer]

Instructions unclear. Used "Get Throngled" as a pickup line. Now have restraining order(s). Awesome content, flying and editing as always!

[@LandoCalrissiano]

I'd been trying to build a plasma boat with a Krait MK2. Did not realize I had to get rid of the shields. I guess I'd probably replace one of the smaller cannons with a cascade rail gun.

[@CrimsonGamer99]

The distro is overtaxed by the weapons anyway. I just kept it simple by going with funny hull resistances. I've only been planted once so far anyway.

[@Shipnot_Nonindustries]

@@CrimsonGamer99 So would u recommend an armor build for this thing?

[@CrimsonGamer99]

@@Shipnot_Nonindustries depends how good you are at moving pips.

[@starnostras]

This is a masterpiece. The whole premise. The skills and knowledge in-game. Then you add the editing. Bravo o7

[@Shipnot_Nonindustries]

Remember, if you see a ship called, "It's a missile" then it is most likely going to missile spam wanted criminals into oblivion.

[@TheDJ3520]

Bet that thing is as fun to fly as the music is a freakin bop. Great video. Waited on public wifi just to re-watch it in HD.

[@tomfoolery4490]

Now THIS is podracing! The only crazier thing I can think of is a hulltank ViperIII with just the weirdest weapons you can throw on it. Maybe the modified Shard Cannons you can get from the tech broken in Mbooni. Or enzyme missiles, I don't know. Just something stupid. Or ramming. Ramming would work.

[@Lupinicus1664]

Like your thinking, a Viper IV might make more sense tho as it starts with tougher hull (I use one)

[@tomfoolery4490]

My thought was just that a Viper III is the fastest ship in the game with Enhanced Performance Thrusters

[@billder7304]

It is, but the moment you start strapping weapons and hrps to it the speed will sorta go out the window. Don't get me wrong, it will still be quick, just not as quick.

[@margotrosendorn6371]

The best ramming ship is an Imperial Cutter. Partly for the tank, partly because of its wonderfully phallic shape. :)

[@connorwirsing8318]

love how at 1:52 the sexy ass krait boost noise fits into the bass drop

[@PocketDrummer]

I had youtube set to 1.25x before I started watching this, and the music is now beyond ridiculous. lol

[@tekwerk]

I was like "man where's the MRPS?" I see now, your internals are so beefy you don't need them. The last E:D KZbinr. Love watching guys like you, Rinzler, and Rui, just in awe at the stuff people can pull off in this game. I was never smart enough to learn the pip management and FAOff flying you guys can do. Don't get me wrong, I fly in FAOff trying to force myself to learn, but I'd probably be a lot better FAOn.

[@divideXzero]

I got blown up by the THRONGLER and I had no idea. 10/10 would get throngled again. *Z3R0*

[@CrimsonGamer99]

Z0 cmdr

[@Vhailor2003]

When the throngling music kicks in...

[@HariSupriono]

Adam and Lute Now that's a pair of Imperial Clippers that you wouldn't want to get interdicted by After all, the shorter a ship's name is, the more dangerous it is

[@pkidawmbt]

your videos are the only thing that I actually enjoy about elite dangerous these days

[@Rythillian]

Saw you at the Titan system yesterday and knew I had to return to this video

[@CrimsonGamer99]

I throngled the titan

[@Screwtxpe.]

Wooooo this is class... Great vid man, bangin tune, thronglin off the charts

[@lavaentity9621]

one does not simply out-throngle the throngler

[@Hissymaster]

3:07 Skill issue detected; Pilot deemed irrelevant.

[@Lorendrawn]

The Bane of Rackam's Peak is not as dangerous when you're far away from the Peak. The **throngler** however will throngle you wherever you choose to hide and subsequently die. By throngulation.

[@vagabondquerier9375]

Excellent tast in music and a very good pilot. You know how to handle that ship/build very well. I have never run across you, yet it good to know you are out there doing the blessed work. Looking at over what was shown on screen ... that is some crazy build. How is that achieved? B rated, reinforced, armoured, etc? What is throwing me off is the high that Thermal got verse the total weight and low abolute.

[@CrimsonGamer99]

Resistances are coded weird. If you do thermal resist reflective on mirrored bulkheads, and then fill the rest of the ship with kinetic/explosive resist HRPs, it causes higher thermal returns for some reason. Everything is B-rated, armored, and double braced, otherwise the heat damage would melt the ship.

[@vagabondquerier9375]

@@CrimsonGamer99I understand now and see my mistakes. Thank you very much for response.

[@CrimsonGamer99]

@@vagabondquerier9375 no mistakes made. It's a funny build and not a lot of people know about funny hull resistances

[@Datan0de]

When you're a bastard, but are so damn good at it that you deserve respect.

[@chris746568462]

By that logic you must also respect serial killers because they are good at what they do...

[@billder7304]

They can't be good at what they do if they've been caught

[@ItCameFromTheSkyBeLo]

This is like Giant Dad of Dark Souls. But Throngles instead of Giants.

[@rawkfistgaming]

God damn, that's gonna be a hard word to not use, lmfao... Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuug... Goes right up there with "defenestrate".

[@Motoboo_Marine]

Immediately liked for the Ultrakill music

[@parzival-3141]

Based and throng-pilled

[@Aijawa]

i saw the comment at the very start of the video i i was like "ah shit, here we go again"

[@RageTH22]

A fine video of Throngling, my friend, well done!

[@BespinGuard1]

My conda's named like an imperial officers at the helm

[@JozMkII]

If I ever reinstall this game and you’re still playing, I’ll avoid you like the plague

[@CrimsonGamer99]

I'm working on an Anaconda version of this thing which adds a huge plasma and two utility frags

[@BessotenJenny]

I fear no man. But that...thing...it scares me.

[@bluggie]

Very hard 👍

[@Россиянин-ъ4е]

You call shooing plasma accelerators a martial art?

[@tactialpain1196]

Even the police are afraid of this masterpiece

[@laudatum7223]

Virgin FDL meta slave VS Chad plasma wielding memelord

[@Jazod]

But fdls have plasma too so what does that make it

[@laudatum7223]

@@Jazod I have yet to see a good memelord FDL

[@1darkthought]

Aaaaay.... what would it take for you go violate the gankers at the AX combat sites in the invasion zones?

[@CrimsonGamer99]

Ayyyyyy I'm one of them lmao

[@1darkthought]

@@CrimsonGamer99 In the case, go throngle yourself. ;)

[@CrimsonGamer99]

@@1darkthought cope

[@Retrolizer]

omfg you're the best man. In my favorite ship no less!

[@sypeiterra7613]

Dude are you my doppleganger? I had a ramming ship in a space engineers server which i had named "THE THRONGLER" and even had a giant UWU plastered across the side as well as 3 dozen laser shotguns, a triple hybrid propulsion and even did that weird "ALL THRUSTERS ON" J-Turn you do

[@CrimsonGamer99]

uwu

[@Phrv199217]

The Krait is great for putting lads in a crate.

[@bobbob-jf9mi]

She throngle on my krait until my plasma accelerate

[@werd3426]

The fact that he doesn't have ANY shields, yet still plays so aggressively is just amazing

[@CrimsonGamer99]

The trick is the armor resistances. It's specifically engineered to completely ignore 40% of incoming explosive, 56% of incoming kinetic, and 81% of incoming thermal damage. Also, because thermal resistance is so high, it's nearly immune to NPC fire, and even ATR and station guns take a couple full minutes to become a threat. Having shields and shield boosters would actually put me at a disadvantage, because it would cut into my armor resistance, overtax the B-rated power plant, reduce the amount of heatsinks I can carry, and overwhelm the already highly-burdened power distributor.

[@werd3426]

@@CrimsonGamer99 Thank you for the useful information, I was planning to eventually get into pvp, but I know almost nothing about it, didn't even know that adding shields can affect your hull

[@CrimsonGamer99]

@@werd3426 it's a tradeoff. You only have so many internals. In this case, I needed all the internal slots for armor. However, for 98% of PvP builds, you are going to want shields (optional internal) and shield boosters (utility mount)

[@oogleyboogley302]

woah. these are some really dangerous elites! i can't believe it

[@BoBiHST]

NICE Video like the hyperaktiv cuts.

[@XShaneX19]

Watching meta FDLs explode is so freakin therapeutic...

[@Makemakeboy]

1:40 i hope that phantom didin't have a lot of exploration data, would be kinda sad if he accualy had a lot of it

[@CrimsonGamer99]

Would have been pretty funny ngl

[@zilotprotoss4661]

I dfk what "Trongling" mean, but THIS was cool! Thx.

[@FullMetalFox2]

3:37 is pure perfection

[@FakeJeep]

Good lord those low altitude passes in that krait made me cringe so hard. I've died soooo many times getting too low.

[@CrimsonGamer99]

This Krait can probably withstand a little lovetap with the ground. Or two. Or twenty.

[@ninjajagyr]

SRB PAs... You mad man!

[@coldtech06]

He ultrakilled all of them

[@Nosttromo]

Whenever I want to convince someone to avoid Open Play, i'll send them this video

[@atheos.1383]

While I use this video as a reason you SHOULD play in open, as you missing out on all this fun 🤣.

[@vagabondquerier9375]

this kind of vid MAKES me play OPEN

[@trevelyandovah8479]

The combat Beluga

[@CrimsonGamer99]

Believe it or not, the combat beluga was actually a direct counterbuild to this thing. He took out my weapons almost immediately and it turned into a ram fight which I lost.

[@unknown4me]

how the fu-... ok actually I wont be elite player if i wont try this, it can decimate anything in 0.5 meter radius, perfect to send people to oblivion edit: ok after 376 years i got the thing, damn its powerful...

[@BalgaBear]

it's been a long time since I've seen a memetoge

[@Fox420]

These videos are literally why i post my dumb builds on discord 🤣 Good shit cmdr

[@aceserpent2512]

Is it practical for pvp, or is it just for funni throngling moments? I really wanna get into pvp, and I tried it with my cutter, but it doesn't really cut it, haha I never even used plasma accelerators before, so It kind of scares me a bit

[@CrimsonGamer99]

It works in PvP, but I would not recommend it for a learner. Actually, I wouldn't recommend any of my weird shieldless alt builds for learner pvpers. For actual organic 1v1s and 4v4s, the meta FDL is still king. Prismatic, 5+ boosters, banks, 3 pa, 2 rail, around 555 boost. You can find coriolis links to a meta fdl on many forums online, keyword "3/2 meta fdl". This is the ship I would recommend people learn pvp with, and then you can play around with weird stupid builds.

[@aceserpent2512]

@CrimsonGamer99 Oh, I've lost count of how many times people recommended me the meta fdl. lmao Well, no escape now. I guess I'll get to it then... but I'll still build the throngler since I have a half engineered mk2 lying around anyway. Thx for the advice

[@yoonseongdo3303]

what a build holy shit

[@VGLit]

Jack Nicholson Nodding.gif

[@schlirf]

Whoa, you're flying a Manta (my nickname for the Krait) without shields?!

[@CrimsonGamer99]

haha funny hull resistances go *facetanks full fire from ATR for over 5 minutes*

[@margotrosendorn6371]

Welp, I'll be sticking to solo mode. 😵

[@lightmanLP]

ultrakill kicks in

[@5ilverstreak854]

I am somewhat new to combat in elite and don't understand what the term "pipcheck" means. could someone explain it? it does not appear anywhere when I google it.

[@dvdmuckle]

Shields are stronger if you have more energy (pips) in systems. Not managing your pips when you expect to take a big hit means your shields will take more of a hit than if your pips were properly managed.

[@cmdrfr3y4]

Zazzz is typing

[@AlpieInternet]

no module armour with 5x short range plasmas... I feel bad for the poor modules that ended up on your ship

[@CrimsonGamer99]

Everything is B-rated, armored, and double braced. I will occasionally fry off the hardpoints and heatsinks before anything else melts. And hull damage resistance numbers are shared with core internals so it's also very difficult for a superpen opponent to module snipe anything.

[@AlpieInternet]

@@CrimsonGamer99 I did not know about the resistance thing, makes more sense now

[@nullx8]

F22 moment .. haha EPIC!

[@captincommodore7011]

oi have you ever played around with the remote release flechette launcher, i saw a video and by the looks of it they quite literally completely ignore shields and absolutely hammer external modules looks like a fun way to bamboozle players into floating rocks unable to shoot wondering how they ended up that way with their shields still up

[@worthle22human]

ULTRAKILL!!

[@theavaliengineer]

out of curiosity, why go for so much thermal resistance instead of evening out the resistances?

[@CrimsonGamer99]

People most frequently run thermal damage weapons for shields. And since I have no shields, it's funny to watch a wing of laser vettes do 1% hull damage every 5-10 seconds.

[@dccherrytrees7539]

Thermal is the Premier damage type cause most ships use shields generally kinetic/explosives are second priorities to take out armor.

[@subtomyexclusiveenthusiast9878]

I will 1v1 your thronger

[@vagabondquerier9375]

Good luck

[@vehicleboi5598]

throngler fish

[@AceYoPro]

Thermal conduits i assume? xd

[@Joseph-wh5of]

I am scared.

[@newfang6234]

Don't even play this game but it looks fun. :]

[@CrimsonGamer99]

It's not. It's really not. It takes about 50 hours of grinding from the start to earn enough credits to buy and fully outfit a ship like this, another 100 hours to unlock and fully upgrade all of the engineers required, another 100 hours to gather the materials necessary to engineer all of the required equipment, and about 500 hours of practice to actually get semi-decent at PvP.

[@newfang6234]

@@CrimsonGamer99 okay then great job on the video 😆

[@aldebaran0_]

Man pvp looks like fun but the engineering grind is such a slog idk if ill get into it

[@daoust06]

how about the Module reinforcement package doesn't have any ?

[@CrimsonGamer99]

Not needed. They don't protect against heat damage and everything else is B-rated, armored, and double braced. I've only been planted once (by Sol doing reverski and using his six superpen cope rails), and have had drives taken out only by packhounds.

[@TogglePr0]

@@CrimsonGamer99 your canopy probably only then

[@AceYoPro]

@@CrimsonGamer99 There is a reason i never wanna fight sol lol.

[@CrimsonGamer99]

@@AceYoPro he's also a sore loser and an insufferable winner.

[@AceYoPro]

@@CrimsonGamer99 Yeah, if you ever fight him, even if you manage to take down his ship (which you wont unless you have a better wing than he does), you never win in the big picture. Cutter needs nerfs and sol should just begone. I buildt my own version of Mini-kills kaioken (which has the same weapons as the throngler except with shields and not so focused on ramming) and honestly i love it, but i suck at PVP so im scared to try anything other than PVE in it lol.

[@EchoNovemberDelter]

Why you take out a diamondback tho :(

[@CrimsonGamer99]

Because it was a hollow square, and I blow up any hollow square I see :)

[@Eulmiac]

The archetype of a ganker then

[@CrimsonGamer99]

@@Eulmiac good, you finally caught up.

[@Eulmiac]

You know a lot of CMDRs are tired of this shit right ? This is the cancer of this community... At some point you'll end up harassed yourself and you'll hind in solo, especially since you are boasting so much on YT

[@CrimsonGamer99]

@@Eulmiac kid, I'm an elite dangerous KZbinr, and a shit-tier PvPer. I'm already harassed every time I go to supercruise in open. It leads to some good organic fights. Tell me something I don't know.

[@aitoluxd]

Hahaha! Aljazz I see you 👀

[@cmdraljaz77]

Hey look it's me!

[@danielsegewitz6956]

awesome video CMDR

[@GeorgeTsiros]

will you and *z3ro* get a room already??? 🤔

[@totallymady42069]

Perfection

[@simon-ricardokuhn1713]

I wonder if it can melt ATR's

[@user-25352]

wait how do resistances stack as of now? weren't there a softcap of 50% and technical inability to go above 75% (tho even reaching 75% would be impossible)? yet coriolis says you would have 80.8% thermal resists. Did they remove the softcap or coriolis is simply obsolete in this?

[@CrimsonGamer99]

No softcap, something's broken. People have gotten anacondas with only thermal resist reflective mirrored bulkheads and that gives about 50% thermal resist right off the bat. Then, filling about 75% of the optional slots with kinetic resist hull reinforcement packages and 25% explosive resist (both of which have negative thermal resist), the overall thermal resistance actually INCREASES, with a hard cap at 90%. Bam. 90% thermal resist conda = 80,000+ thermal armor. Can literally tank station guns for several MINUTES. Thx fdev.

[@user-25352]

@@CrimsonGamer99 ok checked coreolis again, so normal softcap appears to be 65%, at any rate all HRP thermal resistant can reach 64.9% if we have mirrored surface composite without thermal resistant and there resists work normally... yet if we have mirrored surface WITH thermal spread, then thermal resistant HRPs instead deduct resistance... all the way to 65.1%, same softcap. So my guess at how it works (at least at coreolis, and if you say you have actually tanked station guns in game then in-game it would work about the same) 1) Game does not softcap basic bulkhead resistances at all 2) When trying to add resistances from HRPs, game first "uncaps" old resistance. As is, if resistance is greater than 30%, then any difference between (resistance-30) and 35% is doubled. So 50% resist would become actual 70%, or 0.3x damage multiplier. Resistance from just bulkhead also follows this process. 3) This damage multiplier is multiplied by HRP's damage multiplier, 4) After that it re-caps this resist, giving us average between it and 30%. If resistance is 99.999% then you get 64.999% resistance in the end. But - because bulkhead brings thermal resist over 65%, after "uncapping" it goes above 100% resistance, or NEGATIVE damage multiplier. Obviously, multiplying a negative value by above-one multiplier of kinetic/explo resistant HRPs would sink said value below zero even further. The only unrelated thing is 90% hardcap. Probably another limit in code, kept from early versions before they added softcap. Without this, resistance could probably go above 100% and... make your hull heal from lasers?

[@misterdeath1879]

Very nice

[@Bellfeasto]

People need too look up the definition before cracking jokes

[@wikjo3985]

thats why i don't play open play.

[@154fleetwood]

Dope vid Cmdr 💯o7

[@mareck6946]

MIGHT ASWELL USE THE ID: FUK-455

[@svens3722]

can someone explain pls. why he have no shilds?

[@DragosStefanSimion]

Because he has no shields fitted

[@svens3722]

@@DragosStefanSimion and the reason?

[@CrimsonGamer99]

@@svens3722 armor resistances are extreme. The thing is a bullet and laser sponge. Lets me focus the distributor on weapons and not have to worry about shields.

[@svens3722]

@@CrimsonGamer99 ahh okay. Thank you.

[@cephalos81]

bro im comander cephy and i got 74 bill in bounties...come at me throngler :) all your peeps hide in solo play when im in deciat

[@vagabondquerier9375]

Know to be other way around there boyo

[@ACowForAllSeasons]

UWU