Elite Gun Fighter vs Elite Knife Fighter Ep1 | ZERO & DOUG | Gun vs Knife

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Mythbusters experiment done by subject matter experts. This new mini-series by Funker Tactical explores multiple angles, scenarios, operating conditions and possibilities concerning not only distance but also angle of attack, concealment of intention, stealth weapons, opponent skill levels and much more.
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Knife: Doug Marcaida
Gun: Instructor Zero
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[@LlamaCommando]

Omg, gun guy's accent is awesome. But I find myself disappointed with these scenarios. How often do we ever even know someone is about to stab us in the back in real life? Let's see real surprise! I'd like to see ambush scenarios. Let Knife guy get settled into a building say... 5mins to find a spot. Gun guy has to find him. THAT would be compelling and fascinating. Then reverse it, Gun guy settles, Knife guy finds him. *sigh*, I'll just make my own KvG fight... with hookers... and black jack!

[@paynesmith3008]

Great suggestion for a training scenerio. Also an "overran" situation could be added with multiple melee attackers.

[@spexnizzl3]

+Michael Leading Horse "Screw the blackjack.... and the hookers..... ahh screw the whole thing."

[@vincentblalock2781]

About 3.5 second for a "trained Leo or mill" person to react to an ambush which is usually the case and they do typically happen within about thirty feet and are planned attacks. 1.5 second for the attacking person to travel about 21feet. And inflict serous injury. Their is no one shot stop and thinking about a head shot. Better be a serious headhunter. It's not my opinion. It's proven facts.

[@LanceDStone]

The sheer condensed epic-ness is dripping out of this one.

[@bpulley1]

I would have said no one could kill instructor Zero.... and THEN you threw in Doug Marcaida. Mind = Blown. I have no idea what to think now.

[@MusashiSolid206]

i pull my gun everytime my spidey senses tingle making me impervious too back stabbing knife attacks.

[@nixonwphoto]

Zero was shooting unloading before he has identify his target. He does not know whether the man who's rushing him a threat or not. He is only trying to unload his first round as soon as possible(which is pretty damn fast from concealment), but in all practical scenarios, I think the blade will have the edge on this. I will have to watch this series.

[@AltarenGalil]

whoever is the aggressor on the unprepared will have the advantage. If he had a gun the advantage would be even bigger. That being said, everybody knows in extreme close quarters with equal skill and weapons holstered the person with a knife has the edge :) If someone has a knife you want to pull away, but if he has a gun you want to close in (if escape isnt possible)

[@fenriswolf044]

knife definitely is at an advantage. But fuck it #TeamGun because i love zero lol

[@fuggleeartshow]

I agree the ambusher has advantage over ambushee regardless of weapon system, but in regards to identifying the target how long would you suggest he wait? Until he is getting stabbed? If you wait until the attacker is actually attacking you I would say you're probably way behind the curve and it's too late at that point. You can see from the video at this distance there is less than 2 seconds to gauge the threat, maybe less than 1 sec or right around 1 sec. If he hesitates to try and look at the person rushing him to view his hands etc he would fail every time. Regardless Zero had eyes on target every time. He wasn't just spraying bullets. IMHO. Should be a super interesting series. Can't wait

[@Nordheide]

He'll only use this technique in situations/scenarios where you can expect an attack like that.

[@Win94ae]

blackwings03 "how long would you suggest he wait?" Until he "has identif[ied] his target.He does not know whether the man who's rushing him a threat or not."

[@anthonylee7635]

Zero is a badass.. Lets see what other techniques he can come up with.

[@AJB679]

Im pleased to see them addressing a very common argument amongst gun and knife enthusiast.

[@AGC828]

Knife man will win. Assuming Gun man doesn't know knife man is behind him and has drawn his knife.

[@23Belligerent]

This will be a great series! Two of the best in their fields, really looking forward to seeing more.

[@FUNKER530]

Team Gun

[@doza.b]

This is going to be an interesting series. Thanks for sharing.

[@paulhetherington4382]

Ah nice reaction for sure.

[@ANGELSRAGE77]

Two of my favorite instructors in the same room. SWEET!

[@0oJoe]

Defiantly intrigued, will be waiting for the next video in the series.

[@ShinobiHOG]

TEAM BOTH!!!!! Once I run out of ammo I will transition to the knife..... I am excited for this series though.

[@Tinker1837]

Awesome! Can't wait to see this play out...

[@BossinDawson253]

This is gold, please make many more of these

[@Dinosaup420]

gun guys accent is awesome xD def gona watch the series already subbed

[@VictorMikeLima]

This is awesome!

[@clydez007]

I want to be there Student....SO Bad with Kuya Doug's Knife Skills and Sir Zero's Gun Skills Dang!!! Set Of Skills, You will Be Super Operator/Assassin given that set of skills

[@scottcameron35]

Cant wait to see the rest

[@txbarker78]

Amazing. Good job guys

[@ReaperXTC]

Looking forward to the rest!

[@paulbradley8654]

Always good stuff!!

[@BeeYoSa]

I think it's pretty safe to assume that anyone rushing another human being from behind them with a weapon in their hands is a threat. Truth of the matter is his first shot wasn't fatal, it was meant to incapacitate the target so he could accurately assess the threat level of the target. From that distance, factoring in the skill level of the gunman, Gun has a large advantage in this little experiment.

[@WarriorsAnch0r]

Good stuff. Looks interesting.

[@Zescht]

Really excited for it.

[@bpulley1]

I am seriously giddy right now!! Two of my favorites together at last. It's like a reeses peanut butter cup of death!!

[@reefbliss2344]

Give Zero credit though for producing this thought. I look forward to this series. Zero usually produces planned scenarios that are rediculously unrealistic.....this one is good...please focus in target recognition!!!!

[@normrubio]

This is all kinds of awesome.

[@Piemuncher24]

Very interesting. Great video

[@h2snow22]

you guy are awesome thanks !

[@Touched_by_a_12_gauge]

HOLYSHIT YESSS!!! Thank you.

[@jamesdangerharvey]

I carry a cold steel GI Tanto openly on my vest left side, and use to openly carry ridiculousness holster on my right side vest. one is a tool, and one is a weapon. I think knowing both is fundamental. I've trained Krav Maga for many years, and train militia. no matter how bad ass the operator is. When the gun is empty there better be some epic hand to hand to back it up. great idea for a series study guys! at night, even Rambo's knife is invisible.

[@ericchenoweth7315]

Doug Marcaida is one of the MOST highly skilled Kali, Eskrima, and Silat practitioners in the world. I would like to see what would happen if Doug was close range (within 3-4 feet of his target) so he wouldn't have to close the distance in such a dynamic fashion, firearm or none, if Doug was within edged weapon range and his target didn't know his intention, not many people in the world would have the chance to react fast enough to come out without several major arteries, tendons, nerve motor points lacerated and/or bones broken, severely limiting the targets movement/ability to react and just bleed-out. Probably rather quickly and most likely VERY painfully. IMO

[@Artamexico]

Nice vid

[@HPonzer]

And now he just shot a jogger running past him 99.9% of the time?

[@Azyx90]

Oh yeah! I wanna this!

[@destroyka777]

Team knife. I'm excited for this series, as it raises some very interesting arguments and creates a new perspective on an old adage. Certainly, in ambush and surprise scenarios, the knife has the edge provided the distance is short enough or can be shortened enough without alerting the target. However, in any scenario with a greater distance than can be closed in the space of time it takes the target to react, the knife will fail vs the gun. However, I do feel that someone who trains to break contact in an unexpected manner as they present their gun will gain themselves an advantage in surprise. I'd be interested to see if executing a dive roll that not only breaks contact but brings one around to engage the attacker would give one enough of an edge. People say pulling moves like this is only going to get you killed, that they increase risk beyond what one can handle. I feel that if you're being charged from behind like this, you're already in a very high risk situation and that any move you make is going to be risky, so why not move in a manner that creates fighting space while disorienting the aggressor and repositioning you so that you can now face the threat? I think making aggressive and fast moves (such as a dive roll) can do this. It's fast, unexpected, and changes the circumstances more to your favor. I don't know, but I really want to try this with a sparring partner to find out now.

[@Ragnarok420]

These two are experts in their field and I cannot wait to see how the rest of the series unfolds. #TeamGun has my vote though!

[@vincentblalock2781]

I would like to see more info. Video and so on. Like your stuff. Great information. I've a history in these very same things. Thanks again

[@XxGhost141xX]

This is getting me more hyped than most upcoming movies:3

[@negativeionz0]

Haha, I hear ya man. Hurry up and release these!

[@ericdammobladesgunsgear]

nice work men

[@Ibby_950]

Dammit I want more!!!

[@djordjekaplan9993]

This is going to be very, very interesting. Brilliant idea on the part of Funker Tactical... Also I live not to far from Raging Tiger; Can I get Zero's autograph?!

[@Jcos415]

im a Marcaida fan but im a bigger Zero fan #TeamGun

[@ndinadis]

this is going to be so badass thanks ryan

[@Cellus002]

What a tease!

[@JDLTinAZ]

Hell yeah!

[@SmithandWessonBlazer]

I don't see this as knife or gun I see it as who has the position of advantage.

[@SageRhyme]

Well that's 100% of all combat, even hand to hand -- it's all about position advantage.

[@circle7motorsports]

If you're in a scenario where you kill anything that moves or have already deemed the guy behind you as a threat because of you're situational awareness then zero would definitely take this one which seems to be the case here....good stuff I look forward to more

[@xxxxxx-l4h]

i wanna see the guy who does the karambit knife and doug do a cqb fight,

[@hag12100]

You want about 6 meters (20 feet) to draw your gun when getting attack with edge weapons.

[@cuddzilla]

Instructor Zero is a bad, bad man. #TeamGun

[@jchelampath]

omg omg omg omg omg!!!!!!! AHHHHH EXCITED!!!

[@drmaudio]

Should be an interesting series.

[@diReLoCke]

Thank you for making this happen, however you managed it. #TeamGun

[@stealthapproach3389]

come on.. gun fans and knife fans.. they're giving us tips.. don't get butthurt when someone is saying whichever side will win.. In life situation its not about winning its about surviving.. -.-

[@pyrokinetikrlz]

fuuuuuuck, can't wait to see more!

[@SnipifiedHQ]

Noticed Zero wearing sod gear pants and shirt. That is some awesome shit.

[@davidjanuszewski5020]

Thanks for this video series, I had always thought that within 21 feet the knife would always win, now I know that the winning distance is about 8 feet, I am so much more secure in my knowledge.

[@thecarsongriffin6709]

Eh, it varies like the video says. If i have one of my throwing knives, I could hit you from 40 feet out on a good day. 21 feet is a snap.

[@TFSMikeRath]

Team Knife! Good series to have though.

[@endofthelongestline1]

YES!

[@ninjulina]

very good thing!!! ZERO is my hero!!

[@michaelv.4919]

Zero still would've got stabbed by Doug even if he got the shot off with that reverse draw...he either needs get more distance by moving or grab control of the knife before the draw.

[@Bolo2028]

You are quite right. Most "gun guys" (I'm not saying this is true of Zero) seem to have trouble realizing that in really close quarters you have to deal with the most immediate problem (in this case the knife) first. Then, if you can create the proper relative positioning, you can employ your gun.

[@jamesbridges914]

Interesting technique. I seem to recall Steve Malloy(RIP) recommending a very similar one for use in narrow hallways in an issue of SWAT some years ago.

[@BlueDragen25]

This is so EPIC. I want to see them go at it knife and knife.

[@hotpopcorncake]

I don't know anything about Zero but this look interesting.

[@r1pbuck]

Situational awareness is everything...

[@G36Jeff]

I shit myself when I read the title. im gona comment now before watching and betting on Doug Marcaida.idc who ya are

[@tzint56]

If I even go into the military. I'll make sure to carry a karambit and the training to use it.

[@cheapo911]

Holly hell how do you get the 2 most bad ass people in one room? Then make them fight each other? Ohh this is going to be good.

[@stratton78ja]

More!!!!!

[@Haze5moke]

Bad ass

[@negativeionz0]

I hope you're happy people on KZbin who make awesome videos. I subscribed to your channel and I've only done that like 6 times in the history of the Internet. You better hurry up with this series dammit. I am now going to spend my lonely days researching these instructors and pining for the upload of the videos. Damn teasers...

[@predsam]

In a scenario like this the guy with the gun almost always loses. If he's really fast. as zero certainly is, then the knife guy loses as well. There is just too much energy behind the knife. Whether its fatal is another thing altogether.

[@tyrfinn8067]

Where to get the DVD/ Series?

[@crazypfc777]

Oh to be trained for both #TeamKnife

[@hayanami]

When you got two highly skill person, it doesn't matter what the tool is. Who can problem solve first? Who is able to have first initiative? It just becomes a battle of the mind. The worst case is just a double kill.

[@RidgeRunner88]

And this is why everyone with a CCW should have force on force training.

[@dose710]

someone come rushing at you from behind will need 3 reactions done simultaneously. side step, pull out your concealed, assess threat. The outcomes of course depends on both your physical and mental reactions.

[@xZENxSAMURAIx]

Fuckin sweet! Awesome knowlege to have or atleast try to understand...

[@DeViceCrimsin_]

Pft, tell that to my broken knee . . . (loosely based Skyrim reference.)

[@SlackerChief]

Everyone knows that the pen is more powerful than either one of these...

[@hotpopcorncake]

Slackergun Yes Thanks for the good and depressing info.

[@SlackerChief]

Mi Horrorshow I could lighten that part up a bit in the director's cut version

[@jackl45]

“Whoever said the pen is mightier than the sword obviously never encountered automatic weapons.” ― Douglas MacArthur

[@RareX]

jackl45 Become a politician. Use the pen to turn the automatic weapons on each other.

[@SzymonNatanRajca]

jackl45 Best comment i found today :D

[@TutMirNichts]

As a trained martial artist- #TeamKnife

[@cpt_angler9223]

Yeeeees

[@UrinalcakesDT]

Although Id side with #TeamGun for versatility, Jimmy Hoffa said it best, "Always run from a knife, and rush a gun."

[@MrVinkelkapen]

#TeamGun Zero rocks!

[@idonanquan]

Are you sure its a series? Im still waiting for ep 5 for the karambit.

[@blackops555]

Yes, with the assailant being that close, the knife would have the advantage. BUUUUT, I still have to go with Zero. #TEAMGUN

[@Echo4PapaBravo]

I would say that the outcome is completely dependent on the scenario. From the scenario I see here, where the knifeman has a blind ambush on the gunman in a public setting, the knifeman will always win because of the need for the gunman realize there is a threat and identify the attacker. You can't just go shooting every jogger who happens to be trying to pass you. And there is no way to assume that any footsteps behind you means an attack in an everyday scenario. The gunman only wins when little to no collateral damage is possible and ambush is probable, else the second or two needed for target acquisition and identification, prior to being able to draw from concealment, will be plenty long enough for several well placed punctures and quick bleed out. But in most cases like that, the gunman should already have his weapon out and be scanning for threats. Unless this is something like an alley behind a business and the gunman steps out for a smoke. Danger possible, encounters with pedestrians unlikely, and good reason the gunman would be concealing instead of presenting and scanning for threats. Still, I think by the time the gunman can assume attack, identify the threat, and begin to draw from concealment, he would have been stuck and be in the process of bleeding to death. They say that in a knife fight its not a matter of if you will get cut, but how badly. #TeamKnife Semper Fi

[@DanielADickey]

Where do I sign up for classes from these guys?!

[@miamoben]

This guy's fuckin Batman

[@ceedmoreno]

#teamknife for me cause i love knves :D... tho, the element of surprise and range would be a factor on both weapons.. like Sir Doug said.. "a weapon is meant to be felt not seen."

[@Thomasio14]

fuck yeah this is awesome :D

[@hawaii50joe]

Within 30 feet, knife man will almost always have the EDGE...

[@puretorin]

Does Zero have his own channel?

[@horseboyhunglow]

YESSSSS!

[@vampire847]

this is why I carry both...

[@gunchief0811]

Ballistic martial arts.

[@yadjekim]

Zero would have put a round in the attackers gut, but still would have taken the blade in the torso through sheer momentum, maybe. He IS a jedi knight with a firearm, after all.

[@johannesalexandrius5749]

In a real combat scenario, a knife wielder at that distance will win over a gun wielder. But situational awareness and running to create distance MAY tie the gun wielder or he MAY even be at an advantage against a knife wielder opponent. The distance created or maintained will give a gun wielder to reach out for his gun, take cover by finding obstacles along the dash against his opponent and shoot.