ELITE OBUCH vs EVERY UNIQUE UNIT (Total Resources) | AoE II: Definitive Edition

The Obuch is the unique unit of the Poles in Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition - Dawn of the Dukes.
The Obuch is an infantry unit which can tear the armor from the enemy units (but not buildings) by -1/-1 (melee/pierce) per hit (bonus armor classes, such as anti-anti-Cavalry armor of Cataphracts, are not affected). The armor cannot go below 0, and units with initial negative armor (i.e., rams) do not have their negative armor reduced or increased further; however, if, for example, melee armor has reached 0 while pierce armor has not, the latter will still be reduced by 1 each subsequent hit until it reaches 0, with the former resting at 0. The effect is applied after the Obuch's attack has inflicted damage (i.e., the Obuch attack that lowered the unit's melee armor from, e.g., 1 to 0 will still use 1 armor to calculate Obuch's damage for the said attack).
The only way to revert armor-tearing effect is to fully heal an affected unit.
In the total resources series, we consider 100 Wood = 100 Food = 100 Gold, whilst in the equal resources series, we consider 100 Wood = 100 Food = 17 Gold.
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Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition - Dawn of the Dukes is the second expansion for Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition. It is set to be released during Summer, 2021, featuring unannounced new campaigns and new civilizations based in Eastern Europe. A co-op campaign feature is planned to be added.

[@HyunAOP]

That Keshik fight was so damn close god damn

[@rhalfik]

made a lot of gold

[@BalgaBear]

Obuch really do be slaying in Gregorian. Really great unit! 4:33 - The fated Melee vs Melee unique (excluding samurai)

[@caper963]

*Obuch gaming* Also: Polish theme is beautiful.

[@unimportantcommenter4356]

Searjant Gaming is better

[@rajiikha]

They are supposed to be paired with finishers units like arbalest but even alone they destroy almost every thing cost effectively

[@Dave_The_Musical_Fisherman]

They are strong for sure. Course against ranged units there is far more player input such as hit and run or wedging yourself somewhere but these obuchs are insane. The few times they lost were against units that had bonus damage or were known for being big hitters like war elepeand tuetonic knight. I'm pretty scares to deal with them when I play my main turks if I cant capitalize hill bonuses and other crafty strategies.

[@NeonLine]

@@Dave_The_Musical_Fisherman It would make a lot of sense historically if Poles have an edge over the Turks. But this unit doesn't seem op, they die to nearly all Archers and even get overpowered by stronger units as Boyar or Leitis.

[@Jel.Awesh.M]

@@NeonLine believe me, they are even strong against archers.

[@Neon-Lines]

until you pair the other side with a good support unit too

[@kr_47_]

TKs won..i thought Obuch will tear their armor....TKs op since 1999🔥🔥💪

[@devinosland359]

Yeah, tk just does too much damage so the obuch cant take enough armor before they're dead

[@utterlyhollow5377]

Yeah they probs need a buff

[@NeonLine]

@@utterlyhollow5377 agreed

[@utterlyhollow5377]

Update: so they’re not great against those two units, but they’re still a good unit. Found this out after a few matches.

[@NeonLine]

@@utterlyhollow5377 Yeah Ive noticed the same. People love to overrate new units

[@d0nutwaffle]

Slow but durable infantry wins in a head on fight vs fast and squishy units and against unmicroed archers, this seems to be news to alot of people. Obuch is slower than anything thats not the TK, it won't tie you down unless you let him.

[@Dave_The_Musical_Fisherman]

I like each resource being equal. I care more about what to expect before all the gold is dried up and I'm playing a 1v1

[@alexandremallebay-vacqueur3681]

what people fail to realize is that this is without micro. The thing that obuches lack is speed so literally all the archer uu that lost would actually win in a realistic match.

[@Dave_The_Musical_Fisherman]

Just commenting this to others. Micro, hill bonus, walls, wedging in a small area could change up many of the fights. If the ranged were on hold ground and in the corner things could've been different

[@barybary42]

Noobs dont know that. they mass and do the A-move and call everything op.

[@Leonhart_93]

A similar argument can be made for obuchs as well. Their bonus lends itself very well to being supported by archers, since those always encounter thick pierce armors. They also serve as a relatively cheap meat shield.

[@Neon-Lines]

@@Leonhart_93 That's not remotely a similar argument. The same argument to yours would be pairing the opposing units with a good support unit too.

[@Hansmaffai]

I ran a little Test-Scenario: 10 champions vs 5 paladins 1-3 badly damaged paladins 10 obuchs vs 5 paladins 3-6 badly damaged obuchs 6 champions & 6 arbs vs 5 paladins 2-3 badly damaged paladins 6 obuchs & 6 arbs vs 5 paladins 6 arbs & 2 damaged obuchs 6 champions & 6 elite skirms vs 5 paladins 5 damaged paladins 6 obuchs & 6 elite skirms vs 5 paladins 6 elite skirms (!) And if you really wanna see something busted, test: 6 obuchs & 2 Cho Ku Nu vs 6 paladins even matchup Their support ability is so fkn strong, they have no buisness going head to head with other meele-infantry.

[@Tocaraca]

Unfortunately true. Busted unit, its OP stats go against its design philosophy. Cheap and fast creation makes sense, high HP and armor males sense, amazing DPS alone does not make sense. They're supposed to strip armor to make way for other units to deal full damage, not work as standalone units that beat 90% of other units in melee combat

[@raulfernandez57]

Dat music tho: "And so, a new breed of terror has downed upon AoE2..."

[@IammAdriian]

Its too strong to be that cheap, the defeated most of the UU, boyars and sligers had a hard time killing them.

[@Dave_The_Musical_Fisherman]

You gotta remember that the ranged just sit there and take it. Imagine jannisaries on a hill firing down or mangudai performing hit and runs. In a head butting competition they are fierce for sure but so are war elephants if you don't have a good spear unit. If your civ doesn't have a counter (bonus damage or bigger unit) it will be tough but not impossible

[@ahmicqui9396]

Almost any ranged unit can take them down easily

[@nguyentai44]

OP unit, why ? cheap but strong

[@w.dgaster3700]

It's training time is also fairly quick, making Obuch easier to be massed out

[@devinosland359]

They are also not supposed to fill the role of just infantry units, they're a great meatshield for ranged units being like half the price of teutonic knights and almost the same hp and the armor stripping. Seeing them perform this well in what they aren't really even meant for is scary.

[@w.dgaster3700]

@@devinosland359 2 pierce armor as an infantry is actually a pretty decent, knowing the fact that obuch itself is a cheap but strong unit. Which makes them a meat shield indeed

[@nguyentai44]

@@w.dgaster3700 Obuch is OP, if they dont neft his stats, they should increase his cost

[@Neon-Lines]

@@nguyentai44 or you all just learn to micro with archers

[@XFEFYA1C]

Its cool that its considert to be weak aganst archers but the only Archer WHO is realy good aganst it is the Handcanon

[@Hansmaffai]

I feel like people are extremly unaware how strong this unit currently is. They are really tanky (90Hp 2/2 armor) which is fine, since the poles otherwise severly lack tanky units (no archer nor cav-armor). However compared to other infantry like Berserkers, Woad Raiders or Serjeants they are way to cheap. You always have to look at units with their civ in mind and poles do a) have quite a strong food-eco in imp and b) a big surplus of gold (extra gold from stone mining, cheap knights, strong winged hussars) so why not increase the goldcost by 10?

[@JourneyLT]

I think they should lose to Karambits, and not get outright squished by Teutonic Knights. My suggested change would be to raise their armour breaking ability to 2 per hit, and lower their base attack from 8/10 to 7/9 Also reduce their health from 80/95 down to 65/80 - For an infantry they have way too much health, especially at the price of 55 food 20 gold, which is cheaper than a Champion btw.

[@BalgaBear]

Teutonic Knights are always suppose to outclass melee units, because they trade everything for damage and melee armor, also their movement speed is low.

[@dirkauditore8413]

@@BalgaBear Gotta say TK's ain't that slow anymore, they've received like two movement speed buffs. Like, they can probably catch up with arbalests.

[@BalgaBear]

@@dirkauditore8413 They have a move speed of 0.8 which I believe is only faster than siege units and war elephants and monks

[@LotuX_Lach_05]

What happen with the tottal sources? I can't understand it.

[@nguyentai44]

example champion 20g, 60f, so it is 80 res..

[@chingamfong]

These guys are too cheap. Poles have that stone mining bonus as well which means they are easier to spam than a lot of other UUs.

[@w.dgaster3700]

The mining bonus is good at both late game and early game. I mean, you could've just get gold from stones, and get *EVEN MORE* from the starting gold pile

[@Jel.Awesh.M]

This unit should be nerfed

[@Matt-cz6ti]

They’re cheap, train very fast, have a great special ability, and their attack is decent Enjoy it while you can folks, they WILL be nerfed

[@patmccall4647]

Plumbed archers did better than I thought they would

[@NeonLine]

no way they nerf them, have too many counters and they would have to give Poles Halberdiers and Paladins in return then

[@Jel.Awesh.M]

2022 and they are still strong

[@eesaubaydullah4231]

The Teutonic armour Debuff takes to long maybe double the Debuff for Teutonic knights?

[@baristika]

they are already OP ... gonna be nerf instead ...

[@hunorferencbalint4483]

Maybe leave TKs be???

[@TheBikeOnTheMoon]

lol, if anything, teutonic knights need buff, they're already one of the worst units in the game

[@eesaubaydullah4231]

@@TheBikeOnTheMoon tks are already balanced there meant to be slow.

[@bedirhandilen]

But why? Why do you want Obuch to kill every UU? This game meant to be balanced..

[@DimitryDonskoy777]

Why obuchs and hussite wagons are made so lame🙄

[@chingamfong]

Also too much pierce armor! They beat every archer, cavalry archer, gun powder variant UU(except slinger)! These ranged unit are supposed to counter infantry but Obuch cut them down like hot knives going through butter. Even ballista elephant and elephant archer can't win against them!

[@dalakhsarothal9624]

You are supposed to kite with those. Still they seem pretty cheap for how strong they are.

[@matthiasvandekerkhove3594]

Archers and cav archers are supposed to hit and run.

[@barybary42]

I bet every infantry UU beats every archer UU in these videos here if the archers dont kite, lol. You guys really need to get grip on the basics of this game before commenting out.