Pitch it Like the Pros

[@jamesyeh5956]

Riley is unbelievable. The details he imparts on Finesse Wedge technique is simply incredible. The nuances goes beyond what Sieckmann teaches at TPI G3!

[@elitegolfschools]

He’s the man!

[@wowbsd]

Oh yeah Riley is on the next level haha

[@leshooton]

Excellent content..kudos to TJ for asking questions like a new student. Amazed how you guys enthusiastically share this knowledge!! VERY grateful!

[@elitegolfschools]

So glad you enjoyed!!

[@soccerlove_dad]

12:53 Great to see you add the toe down concept. I heard this concept for my chip from a Luke Donald Master class and have been using the concept with all my clubs. Also makes the active hands a perfect upgrade to the swing! Still must throw the club out.

[@elitegolfschools]

All dynamics in turf and ball interaction through the strike 🔥🔥🔥

[@brucefrancis2301]

You just saved me 6 strokes!!! Genius!!!

[@elitegolfschools]

@@brucefrancis2301 let’s goooooo!!!

[@dougfabrizio2794]

The bit about how to load the club on a pitch shot is what I’ve been looking for my entire golf career. Incredible explanation! Good bye chili dips 🤞

[@elitegolfschools]

Let’s go baby!

[@at1108]

Amazing content guys. Now I have a system to work on vs pondering why it work yesterday and not today. This will make my short game sessions more fun. Cant wait for chipping and bunker videos guys!

[@elitegolfschools]

They’re coming! Glad you enjoyed!

[@paulchapman623]

Great video! Now I want to learn the spin on that stops and checks! Good Job Riley and TJ! Thank you!

[@elitegolfschools]

Glad you enjoyed! We can definitely make a video on the spinner as well

[@mntlblok]

Only through the first 7 minutes, but this was an immediate "subscribe". When one defines all his terms prior to using them, I'm ready to pay attention. Differentiating between "sole" and "bounce" that way was even new to me. Back to the video. . .

[@elitegolfschools]

Thanks for the support 🙏

[@dukenguyen4701]

wow. For a long time, I wonder why my chip shots tended to go right off line a little bit. Now I understand why . The best explaination of why the chip shots require verticall shaft position. Thank YOU

[@elitegolfschools]

Glad it helped!

[@ZeebNinja]

Thank you... I am spending much more time on chipping and pitching now.

[@elitegolfschools]

Let’s go!!

[@onthefarm9711]

MOst excellent, I have been adding too much spin and getting the ball to check... and coming up way too short :)... must have too much heal bias, can't wait to change my grip and give this a go! Many Thanks

[@elitegolfschools]

Let us know how it goes!

[@johnbrown-wi6zy]

Great content guys,short game is where people really struggle,and yet it is a massive part of the game...........hope for much more short game stuff from you both........ thanks again for pure content......... love you guys!

[@elitegolfschools]

More on the way!!

[@593summersound]

Wow…didn’t realize how knowledgeable you guys are on short game system. What an eye opener! I knew about toe down, but I didn’t know about grip in the lifeline and rib sway to move the club. That’s a nice shallow swing with a forgiving impact area…I live in S Florida, so I’m going to try this into the Bermuda grain!

[@elitegolfschools]

So glad it helped!

[@dspbob35]

Great coaching on pitching and chipping!

[@elitegolfschools]

Thank you!

[@DrBalaji-m5c]

Excellently demonstrated

[@elitegolfschools]

Thank you!

[@kelleydouglas9674]

Great video on pitching! Would love to know more about ball position and weight distribution at setup and during pitching motion.

[@michaelfischer5301]

This is great content. Thank you

[@elitegolfschools]

Thanks you! Glad you’re enjoying ❤️🙏

[@nickehret2460]

Very Interesting. The energy in energy out point in regards to distance control, is in my opinion, also the absolute key to putting. The human brain is really good at measuring distance, and if you load a system, all that’s needed is to let that energy go. Once acceleration gets involved, shit goes haywire. Understanding this one thing, transformed me from a terrible putter to one of the best in the city. It’s almost feels like magic. Just look at the target, think how far back, then stop and let it go. But it requires significant trust, once you get that though, all putting issues solved.

[@elitegolfschools]

Agreed!!!

[@OfCourseICan]

Wow, these guys really know their business! Great info: the grip is something sadly overlooked by we hackers. Thanks so much : Grateful Aussie.

[@elitegolfschools]

Our pleasure!

[@lenardtan7169]

Great chipping tips

[@joe59golfer]

Great lesson! Love the full explanation of why we should be toe down, rather than, "set up with the toe down!" If the toe up, heel down "spooning" issue is detrimental to a pitch, why isn't it on a bunker shot where everyone tells you widen the stance, hands lower and get closer to the ball effectively puts the spoon right on the ball?

[@elitegolfschools]

Bunker shot is much different. This is just for stock pitches!

[@allant.9152]

My irons are 1up, all my wedges are 1-2* flat, makes such as difference especially on hard links courses as the toe glides rather than the heel catching and turning the face down.

[@elitegolfschools]

Good point!

[@AnthonyJohnson-w1b]

Great video. I was messing around with toe down chips for quite some time now with great success because it almost guarantees relatively good contact. This video has helped with some set up issues, especially the grip. I’m in the market for whole new set of wedges so would you recommend full face wedges, which seem to be pretty popular now?

[@elitegolfschools]

Definitely don’t need full grove on wedges and truly we don’t prefer the ball being struck so far out on the tow that you’re flirting with missing groves. Love that for down stuff for sure!! Makes life easy 😃

[@dspbob35]

Hey Dudes: g or gravity is 9.8 M/s per second. This is a force which is acceleration not velocity. Which is meter/second. Hate to be a physicist golfing coach. Great video training just a slight error in force/Gravity description.

[@Swede109g]

I tried this on the lawn and it worked well!.. It looks like in this video you're roughly 20 yards from the pin. Would you recommend this method (shaft in the lifeline and toe bias) for longer shots, say 50-60 yards out? Or, put another way, at what distance would you start thinking about a more conventional grip and set-up? This might vary from player to player but a rough idea... Thanks!

[@elitegolfschools]

It’s a bit different for each player but short answer is, yes 👍

[@raymondmedemblik9374]

Milo lines says for a high spinning pitch you must open your club face and lower the handle down as opposed to lifting it up because if you leave it high your more likely to hit the hosel. Your thoughts please

[@elitegolfschools]

He’s correct, for a high spinner. This shot is for the basic toss shot (low spin) as described at the end of the video. Many, many different shots you can hit around the greens

[@grahamjones7371]

Unfortunately i have left sub par world that your crazy swing videos instantly transported me to,But my short game has stayed their! due to using my chest more and weirdly feeling my hips/pelvis push down and back,in other words a mini version of what i have been working on with your full swing methods (comment made b4 watching video so might not be relevant!)

[@mitchwinemaker7598]

So when would you advocate chipping with utilization of the leading edge for 30 yards and in? Do you ever need to? Less forgiving. For very short 5-10 yard shots?

[@elitegolfschools]

Not necessarily less forgiving, just a more aggressive style shot

[@mitchwinemaker7598]

Any preference for when to choose leading edge style over the technique you showed?

[@elitegolfschools]

@@mitchwinemaker7598 leading edge whenever possible 🙏

[@sharanbirbrijnath549]

Hello, what would the weight distribution be through this process…with thanks

[@elitegolfschools]

Definitely want pressure moving target biased in transitionary phase

[@jack-hq7gr]

Any sense that latest game improvement irons even in sand and gap wedges have “hot faces” and create adjustment to roll, distance? Especially if you try 9 iron or 7 iron chips over longer distances deep into green….

[@robrodgersse]

What does the transition between finesse wedge and distance wedge look like, or do you use this technique to as far out as it will work and then simply transition to dialed back full swing mechanics to close the distance gap between max finesse wedge and distance wedges yardages? Thanks for this info, btw. Really, really helpful. Thanks!

[@elitegolfschools]

You have the right picture!

[@NoJackSunday1]

absolutely effing great

[@elitegolfschools]

Thank you!

[@vegardkarlsen9609]

Very interesting! But what is AoA, launch angle and spin rates for these shots?

[@ST-xg3gy]

So technical 😵‍💫

[@elitegolfschools]

@@ST-xg3gy yes, got to get through the technical to get to the simplicity ❤️🙏

[@MrMILLERW6]

I the video pitch like a pro. When you about the movement and positions of the hands. When the trail hand clocks and bends backwards. You talk about during the backswing how the lead hand sort of bends. Is that bend knuckles down, or is that bend with the knuckles facing away from my body. Just looking for some clarity

[@elitegolfschools]

Either can be of great benefit. One is radial load and other is trail extension load.

[@golfjourneytosinglefigures]

Great content 👍

[@elitegolfschools]

Thank you my friend 🙏

[@ALD767]

do you have a max distance you would use the setup for

[@acnhnris]

Question in regards to the club: would having a wedge bent 1 degree flat be beneficial to assist with this pitching technique?

[@elitegolfschools]

Absolutely, and that also fits into our preferred pattern in full swing. Shaft low = flat clubs

[@sd1132]

you guys are such homers for Hovland, and yet I don’t hear anything in this video about the importance of spin loft. Where do you guys stand on the whole Joe Mayo spin loft discussion that is all the rage right now and which evidently resurrected Hovland’s pitching technique?

[@elitegolfschools]

Lots of Mayo's information that is being presented is how to hit flat spinning shots. Not talking about spin loft in this discussion, just maps for fairly stock pitching motion...

[@joekeefe3229]

Your info is great but it misses which hand is driving , where pressure is.

[@Cam-yp7cn]

Awesome video gents can’t wait to try this out! Would any of these concepts like toe down or grip changes easily translate or be applicable to under 100 yard 1/2 or 3/4 wedge shots? I watched your other video on driver versus wedge but the turn interaction part of this got me wondering.

[@elitegolfschools]

I’d say this is mostly applicable inside 30-40 yards. As more energy is required, we start needing more leverage, accomplished through a grip more in the fingers

[@Cam-yp7cn]

Awesome thanks for the quick reply! Y’all are the best

[@soupra22]

Ive been on the Joe Mayo technique which is completely against this method. It has changed my pitching and his premise is lots of shaft lean high vsp and steep aoa with loft. Its intresting stuff

[@elitegolfschools]

Absolutely and is completely applicable for high spin shots. This is technique for low spin shots around the green. Would definitely say that both are needed if you’re going to be a high level short game player ❤

[@LuisRamirez-yl5hc]

Hey guys.. I love having the feeling of my thumb lifeline being the pivot in my backswing even with my full swings. Is that feeling something you guys thinki should keep? It feels like I geta consistent takeaway and it also aids in my chest rotation. Thanks

[@elitegolfschools]

I don’t love it! We’ll never tell you you “can’t” but holding the club in the lifeline for full swings takes away a lot of speed and power

[@LuisRamirez-yl5hc]

@@elitegolfschools Thanks for your reply. Up to what yardage do you recomend to use this grip?

[@s3gts]

Great Stuff..Chest Flow out to the Toe!

[@elitegolfschools]

Yessir!

[@jayschwarz4365]

I'm wondering the max distance that this shot would be appropriate?

[@elitegolfschools]

Probably about 30-40 yards

[@shuttrbg22]

Can’t believe he drained it. Great video

[@elitegolfschools]

Thanks for watching man!

[@nikekido23]

Are you feeling that loop / infinite shape with the head club / your hand with these short shots ?

[@elitegolfschools]

To a lesser degree, yes!

[@nikekido23]

@@elitegolfschools could you explain what the purpose would be in this type of shot with still doing that . I thought that mainly was for shallowing and closing club face . Maybe I’ll wait to ask during live IG session

[@petercrocitto7383]

I have heard from your colleagues that you lower your hands when hitting out of the sand trap - what are your thoughts around this? I’m sure there maybe several ways to accomplish the same objective using different techniques.

[@elitegolfschools]

100% lowering your hands from the sand. Different technique

[@petercrocitto7383]

@@elitegolfschools thank you letting me know, I must of misunderstood you when you said ‘you never ever lower your hands’, I thought you where talking all shots but I now see you where just referring to the pitch shot. Thank you for all your content and sharing of your knowledge.

[@kenumbarger9919]

In deep rough what adjustments do you make?

[@elitegolfschools]

Full video coming on this soon

[@ihc909]

Game changer

[@elitegolfschools]

Major 🔑 bro

[@ducngocducngoc7421]

How many yard from Riley and TJ stand to hole?

[@elitegolfschools]

About 20 or so here

[@onebellaex]

For pitch 14:17 whats distance can use

[@elitegolfschools]

About 30-40 yards and in

[@raymondmedemblik9374]

When I leave the hands behind I tend to shank my wedges, by lifting the handle the way you have explained help prevent that. Thanks

[@elitegolfschools]

So glad it helped!

[@tompem]

"loaded the trail wrist complex"......

[@bobtaylor205]

A zinger said he built a career on the toe. In the lifeline is new to me.

[@elitegolfschools]

Interesting!

[@MrBigspendn]

Love the lessons but most golfers on here understand how golf physics work. You start losing me when you start down the rabbit hole. Keep it just a little more simple and to the point. Just my opinion guys not bashing.

[@elitegolfschools]

What a great point, we’re actually going to do some of that in upcoming videos 🙏🙏

[@mikehale7511]

Could not been shown or explained ANY BETER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@elitegolfschools]

Fantiastic!!! Glad it resonated!