I’ve watched this channel grow from like 2.2K to 54K in the course of a couple years. I can definitely agree with everyone else that your content is not only extremely underrated, but it’s also some of the most entertaining and interesting stuff I’ve watched in a while! Keep up the good work!
@RaynerGuitar73 жыл бұрын
Agree with Ben 100%
@shannonparker74043 жыл бұрын
What Ben said. Bravo Mr Trace Velo.
@neilgorman93253 жыл бұрын
1000% agree. Thank you for the quarantine entertainment!
@User-rj2dk2 жыл бұрын
Ur mom been watching me grow
@TonyOldskool2 жыл бұрын
I've just recently found this channel & it's awesome
@ilikewasabe3 жыл бұрын
Man this channel is highly underrated. The content is divine! Both entertaining and informative! I shall pray that the youtube Gods will bless this man for his good work!
@roebbiej3 жыл бұрын
Won't be long before he reaches 300K subs i think
@2wheelsrbest3273 жыл бұрын
@@roebbiej I try to spread the word about Luke as much as I can. His channel is essential viewing if your building a decent bike on a budget. He also has the courtesy to reply if you Email him.
@DrunkieCat3 жыл бұрын
@@2wheelsrbest327 exactly, there's no marketing bs in this channel. As a student, this hobby is pretty expensive for me. It would be great if everyone can get into cycling with lower price barrier.
@NickHoddinott3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. It's my favourite cycling channel. Many of the others are "today we take a look at this £6500 bike supplied by our sponsors". OK great, but I'd be scared to ride a bike that cost £6500, let alone afford one. I was looking at buying used aluminium bikes until I found Luke's channel. Now I'm building a fully integrated, full carbon bike for under £1600.
@0rsukk3 жыл бұрын
Indeed! None of my friends know about Luke and his channel. Exept all of my cycling buddies of course...
@galenkehler3 жыл бұрын
That freehub means you don't need a bell when riding a bike path.
@kantorobo77183 жыл бұрын
10/10 can confirm this strat
@Quivivravelo3 жыл бұрын
true that
@Sator8103 жыл бұрын
I actually find freewheeling more effective than a bell, as most people seem to have forgotten what that sound means. Some even seem to take offense when I try to be polite, using my bell; just turn around while still blocking the road with fists on hips looking scandalized like I just snapped my fingers at them or something.
@goku4452 жыл бұрын
@@Sator810 happens all the time. Even on commute with other bikes they get annoyed by the bell. Go figure...
@sjkello Жыл бұрын
That's actually spot on, people move when they hear the swarm of wasps closing in from behind.👍😆
@deanbuckingham80643 жыл бұрын
I have a set of elite wheels on my winspace and can second pretty much everything you've outlined in the review! I had a nipple snap twice on the front wheel and elite sent me out new upgraded nipples and paid for the rebuild I was expecting a slammed door but communication was excellent throughout
@StopaskingformynameYouTube3 жыл бұрын
Still, one of my favourite channels, and i've watched 4 hours of youtube every day for maby 10 years now...
@jshepard58403 жыл бұрын
Love your channel and the fact that you test these Chinese products so we don't have to. So tired of the whole elitist attitude towards and in cycling. The only way we can make sure cycling is affordable to the most people is by supporting those companies who make quality products at a reasonable price. I have a set of Superteam carbon wheels and I love them. Had them for about three years now and they still look and ride really well and I will buy another set of them when these finally wear out. Thanks again for all you do and I look forward to your next vid.
@codyhayes54463 жыл бұрын
I have a pair of Superteam wheels as well. 50mm. I’m really happy with them so far, but I do have to admit that they don’t get a ton of use right now. I’m a triathlete and between the kids at home and the wife’s work schedule I do most of my riding outside of races indoors.
@klaytonickinson2 жыл бұрын
The elitist attitude that you speak of is absolutely toxic. People who spend over-priced big brand parts don't like to see guys with chinese bikes overtake them at high speeds. Simply salty.
@emiloguechoons9030 Жыл бұрын
@@klaytonickinson Exactly, also domestically produced Chinese products have really shot up in quality in the last decade, that's not to say that absolute junk isn't made in China, because ofc it is, but you can get amazing quality stuff from China that certain people refuse to engage with in any way because of outdated stereotypes regarding the general quality of Chinese products.
@kielthalin98883 жыл бұрын
NGL, the Lord Wheellington got me rolling.
@Kimberly_Sparkles3 жыл бұрын
It flattened me.
@randomdudeontheinternet43893 жыл бұрын
Luke : "I don't like the noisy freehub" Me, a mountain biker : "Wait, that's illegal"
@jamble7k3 жыл бұрын
noisy freehub = fast asf
@RalphdeKanter3 жыл бұрын
RE: your bead issue - I've experienced this before too. Try adding an additional layer or two or rim tape - this will likely reduced the shelf gap a tiny fraction and enable them to stay on
@winterrider6668 Жыл бұрын
OBVIOUS.. IMO no one should not have to F w that issue. "Toob-ASS" -->tired's mostly are poorly designed. Beads need much improved designs.
@chrisscott83627 ай бұрын
+1 add another layer of tubeless tape. Had this issue with Conti GP5000 TL on dt R460 Alu rim. Solved.
@jamble7k3 жыл бұрын
that front wheel will have a sleeve in between the bearings you can push out of the way to expose the inner race, hit them out with a screwdriver 👌
@TraceVelo3 жыл бұрын
Nice!!! Thanks for the comment jamble. Def have to give that a try when the bearings give out 😜
@jnss953 жыл бұрын
Make sure not to use a metal object to push that sleeve!
@tomalbert32993 жыл бұрын
excactly! I have Dati M5 hubs which are constructed in the same way (same manufacturer?). Had to change the bearings quite early since they developed play.
@nctrns3 жыл бұрын
@@TraceVelo this is demonstrated somewhere in Hambini's video on Winspace Hyper wheels.
@CycOp3 жыл бұрын
Bike shops probably will use a type of bearing puller that will expand and catch the edge of the inner race, then use a sliding hammer to pull the bearing out. The hard to remove rear bearing in the video may need to be removed this way. While you are at it, maybe upgrade to name brand bearings with better seals.
@mizushima763 жыл бұрын
Thank you Luke! Thanks to your tips I made a complete Chinese Gravel build from Rinasclta bike frames with Sensah groupset mixed with Zrace and Juin F1 brakes saving a lot of money. You gave me the confidence to make the big leap. Best cycling KZbin Channel ever!!! I Love you man! ❤️
@TraceVelo3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!! Really glad my videos inspired you to build your own bike, so cool!!!👌
@Sandro-lj3tu2 жыл бұрын
Hey Francesco. Are you pleased with the quality of the Rinasclta? I‘m planing on maybe also buying one
@mizushima762 жыл бұрын
@@Sandro-lj3tu Yes Sandro. Definitely. And their customer service is awesome too. They always answer in a few minutes. So, yes, I will recommend it. 😉
@chrisje19919 ай бұрын
Got mine today, they seem ok! Took around 4 weeks to arrive. They'll need grease under the end caps when theyre fitted tomorrow. Didnt have to pay import tax, came to around £290 delivered
@josephkornman63033 жыл бұрын
Ive purchased two wheelsets from Elite now. Both mountain bike wheelsets. Both with the Sapim CX Ray spoke upgrade. One had DT 240 hubs and the other Hope Pro 4 hubs. I actually did a review on MTBR and a unboxing video on my youtube account. I could never really find any reviews on them back in 2018 so its good to see someone else doing one. I have beat the hell out of the first set I ordered in 2018 and they are still going strong! not a single wobble, creak and I havent even needed to true them. I honestly cant believe how well they've held up for what I paid for them. I just made sure they were built on good quality hubs.
@daddywarbux643 жыл бұрын
I'd just like to thank you for the Ali express addiction.. Handlebar, seat post, pedals, bibs... there is no end to it. I did get my wheels from Amazon, but you get full credit for the idea. Keep up the great content. Love the channel!!
@dirkhunt94253 жыл бұрын
I bought a set of Ali Express wheels for my gravel bike, Spent about $500, 1300g Novatec 4 Bearing rear hub with Pillar Wing20 (same spokes that Hunt Wheels use). They are 29mm wide and 30mm deep. I have about 700 miles on them with no issues. Spend a little more and get the Powerway or NovaTec hubs for better quality and more serviceability. So spend just a little more and you can get the components that you want for a custom build instead of the bulkproduced wheels. I did have to retension the wheelset when they arrived (they were at about 80kgf I retensioned them up to about 120kgf. I suggest that you do this any set of AliExpress wheels.
@WinspaceBikes3 жыл бұрын
MFW I'm too expensive for the posh-sounding British guy. 😢😢😢 Jokes aside: One love. Everyone enjoy their riding no matter who you ride (wait, what?) but definitely ride safe!
@chch2423 жыл бұрын
Joe A K A China cycling in the house :-)
@gearknobz3 жыл бұрын
Should I expect Lun 45mm to be reviewed by Trace soon?
@codexTu3 жыл бұрын
Are you trying to say this wheels are not safe? Why the Lun wheels may be better? no brand hubs also.
@hollowunlashed83633 жыл бұрын
I also ride this ENT DISC wheel in 60 mm with cx-ray spokes and they are quiet amazing for the price. They have now 5120km, still true and stiff, no issue in particular but i ride clincher.The disc rub a bit on the brake caliper when i apply some power out of the saddle but it's okay. Stay safe on the bike ^^
@fastestmilkman38403 жыл бұрын
Bought a pair of ENT from Elite recently and did a review as well - super happy with the whole experience, value, shipment, and packaging, wheels are perfect and now they are on a pair of Hope RS4 hubs!
@mrp73873 жыл бұрын
A couple of ways to get the bearings out of the front. Move the small inner sleeve within the hub, and use a drift to gently tap the bearings out , or use a blind bearing puller.
@Seroga2253 жыл бұрын
If someone needs to replace the bearings: thats the correct one tested and working perfect! NTN 6903 JRXLLU/5K bearing is recomended by Hambini
@benmgiust3 жыл бұрын
Bought my WokeCycle wheels after seeing one of your videos and they've been incredible. They were even packaged better than other sets of wheels that I've bought from large brands.
@TraceVelo3 жыл бұрын
Wicked, nice to hear! Yeah my wokecycle wheels were great when I got them a few years back. Thanks for the comment Ben 😄
@RiceAnyone3 жыл бұрын
I have a pair of these Elite wheels built with dt350 hubs. Pretty good quality wheels! I have about 2,000 miles on them and they’re still true!
@paragp145732 жыл бұрын
I just ordered Elite 50mm wheelset with DT Swiss hubs and Sepim spokes. Would request your experience with these wheels. Please. Thanks.
@aarch643 жыл бұрын
I had a similar bead seating issue with a cheap set of Ali rims that I had. It was a 2 part issue. 1: the circumference was too small, (needed extra tape) 2: the “shelf” profile was completely flat. I moved to a real set of real tubeless rims (Velocity Aileron) and it has made my whole tubeless life 100% easier
@TraceVelo3 жыл бұрын
Yeah this could well be the case, i'd honestly never dealt with anything like it before. Like I said, on the road they are fine, but was SUPER annoying when setting them up!
@davegee1243 жыл бұрын
you will usually need a bearing puller and a heatgun to warm the alloy hub around the bearing,if you cold pull a bearing out of an alloy hub you may stretch the aluminium and refit may not be so good in which case you may need some bearing lock,all depends on the tolerance from factory.
@mrT-gx5bq3 жыл бұрын
yeeeeeesssss finally! got a set of elite aswell, super happy with it. but they arrived with two scratches from the transporttation on one spoke and the hub. but the aliexpress found a good solution for the problem. luke keep on going, awesome channel!
@TraceVelo3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mr T!!! Glad you like the Elitewheels, I've def been impressed with my set
@BikePappy3 жыл бұрын
Luke, I’m glad that you have taken the opportunity to review these wheels. There is a definite lack of informed opinion on the web about Elite wheels. When I purchased a set it was a bit of blind faith but I will say that I couldn’t be happier with the experience. I mostly agree with everything that you have said, with a few notable exceptions. Also, Sukie is amazing and I would like to re-iterate for the folks out there listening that the customer service at Elite wheels on AliExpress is nothing short of first class. Wheels arrived well packaged with no damage at all. I paid a small amount for customs clearance. Delivery was exactly as promised. I ordered a centrelock disk set, 38 mm, new style logo in black. These wheels ran amazingly true right out of the box. I never checked the dishing so I can’t comment on that. The finish was excellent. The hubs are almost exactly the same as the pair on my Bontrager Aeolus Pro 3V, right down to the “hum” that the 6 pawls make in the 108 tooth engagement. Of course, the bearings are better on the Aeolus hubs but, even with the inexpensive bearings on the Elites, they spin freely for a very long time. It will be easy to replace with better bearings when it becomes necessary because the bearing sizes are standard. I believe someone else has commented that the hubs are a knockoff of a DT Swiss hub which I believe Bontrager is fond of using. I’m happy with the performance of these hubs so far. My experience with the rim/tire situation has been completely different. I wrapped them with a single layer of Stan’s 22 mm rim tape (they are 17mm internal) stretched appropriately, Stan’s valves, and then mounted them with Continental GP 5000 TL’S in a size 28, by hand - no tools at all. I seated the beads with a standard track pump and amazingly, they held air for weeks without any sealant. Letting the air out of the tires did not result in the bead unseating, ever. It must be pushed off to get it to let go. As I commented elsewhere in this thread, it could be possible that your tires were at fault rather than the rim. Or the particular combination that you have chosen. (And speaking of weight restrictions, the Aeolus Pro 3V TLR rims have no rider weight restriction, weigh about the same as the Elites, have a 25 mm internal width , and carry a lifetime warranty with a 2 year damage replacement. For a brand name rim that performs like they do, they are competitively priced.) I have no reservations recommending these wheels and will now have to order another set before the inevitable price increase caused by the exposure of this review.
@richardggeorge2 жыл бұрын
Have you managed to figure out how to replace the front bearing? Luke wasn't sure how to do it...
@goldenretriever62612 жыл бұрын
How long di they take to arrive in Canada.?..I assume the maple leaf mean you're Canadian.
@goldenretriever62612 жыл бұрын
@@richardggeorge I'm guessing you hammer on the inner sleeve and that pushes the opposite side bearing out.
@BikePappyToo2 жыл бұрын
@@goldenretriever6261 I haven't replaced the front bearings yet but I believe that this is correct. I'm pretty sure I saw a video along these lines and that's how it was done. I think they used a wooden block to avoid damaging the axle. I did have to replace the outer bearing in the cassette body recently.
@BikePappyToo2 жыл бұрын
@@goldenretriever6261 About 4 weeks. I ordered them on 11Nov2020 and received them on 11Dec2020. The customer service is very good. I just ordered a replacement hub cassette body and they sent it out pretty quickly.
@d.harriman48143 жыл бұрын
Something you could do to fix your issues with keeping the tire seated when deflated is using more, or wider, or thicker tubeless tape! its something commonly done in mtb to ride lower psi for more grip! some people even use gorilla tape because its thick and makes a super tight seal between the rim and tire! might be worth the test for road bikes also? maybe a vid idea to see if it fixes any issues or not?
@mariconor2422 жыл бұрын
I'm 94kg and have done about 3000kms on the same wheels (60mm variety) with no issues at all (bar water ingress on the rear hub). They're heavier than my Zipp 303s wheels for sure (45mm) but great for the training/daily bike. I won't go 60mm again as they're 1 (heavier) and 2 dodgy in strong crosswinds although they look bling so horses for courses.
@poopscoop20003 жыл бұрын
I don't even own a road bike and yet this channel is absolutely one of my favourites. Great, fun, informative vid as always.👍
@JibbaJabber3 жыл бұрын
Got a tricky bearing? Get yourself a 'Wheels Manufacturing' Sealed Bearing Extractor. Job done!
@echtogammut3 жыл бұрын
For removing those front bearings use a dynabolt (pick a size smaller than the inner diameter of the bearing) as an expander inside the bearing. Then use a punch (or piece of 5mm rod or bolt) against the dynabolt to drive the bearing out. This will ensure a linear force is applied to drive the bearing out without ruining the races.
@mentals5552 жыл бұрын
Lateral shock of hammering on the inner race of a bearing will destroy them. This is why bearings should always be pressed in or hammered in only on the outer race. If you hammer out a bearing by hitting the inner race then it should be replaced
@Nain1993 Жыл бұрын
@@mentals555“If you hammer out a bearing by hitting the inner race then it should be replaced” There's no problem then if changing/replacing the cartridge bearings is what you're trying to do anyways… Removing the cartridge bearings is one issue, hopefully there'd be no issues with installing new cartridge bearings as well. 😬
@casperl68123 жыл бұрын
I've heard motorsaws more quiet than that haha, but thank you very much for this in-depth video. It's nice to hear the pros and cons.
@Fugedibobo3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this review for sooo long!! Thank you very much sir, glad your name is still Luke! :D
@TraceVelo3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's been a few months in the making 🤣 But you're very welcome Fudged!!!
@Fugedibobo3 жыл бұрын
@@TraceVelo Yeah, I've been waiting for it since your Chinese carbon disc build. Have you seen China Cycling Joe's video on the Shanghai bike show? Apparently there is a cheap Chinese Di2 in the making..
@koli1543 жыл бұрын
So far this is the Channel I know that is Very Honest About his Review Keep it up 🚴♂️🚴♂️🚴♂️
@seanicky3 жыл бұрын
Just love the Trace Velo 'theme tune' opening sequence. 👍👍
@Wayne14663 жыл бұрын
Another great video, I have some Zipp 404's and the hub/axle design looks very similar and the process to strip I would say is the same, the bearings are probably 6903's and there are plenty of high quality bearings available NTN, SKF etc at very reasonable prices, both Hambini and Zipp have videos on how to strip.
@Darsithis2 жыл бұрын
I got my 88mm Elite-brand wheels on my backup bike for $400 from Amazon. Arrived in a few days, they’re pretty great. No complaints at all here save for the not-so-amazing stock rim brake pads. Had the same issue, though, I could NOT get these to inflate with a track pump despite setting up tubeless multiple times. As soon as I deflated, everything popped back out.
@davidtydeman14343 жыл бұрын
I bought a pair of 50mm Chinese carbon fibre disk wheels from Winspace and am very happy. Chinese quality is good these days. Note that without a brake track the designers have so much more latitude to design the rims. Keep up the good work
@anthonyoriordan59673 жыл бұрын
Disc road wheels setups rub, even in the pro Pelton, the riders gripe about disc/pad rubage. Another great review wit, humour and real world views and common sense.
@icreyes33 жыл бұрын
Luke, I am ashamed to admit that I have viewed all of your productions multiple times. That said, keep them coming my good man!!! I absolutely love, love, love your cheeky videos!
@TraceVelo3 жыл бұрын
Khalix, MY MAN, MY GUY!!! What a compliment 😁 Glad you like my videos
@mpick94043 жыл бұрын
Great review- as always, I love your channel👌🏼 Re: getting the bearings out of your front hub. I'v recently serviced very similar hubs. The front looked like a real a conundrum... But. They came out very easily using a fairly long tube which fit inside the bearing quite tightly & very gently rocking the bearing side to side whilst pulling outwards just on the resistance of the rocking bar. To my suprise, they actually came out straight away.... While they were out, I cut notches in the inner sleeve, so that I could tap the bearings out next time. Hope this helps. All the best. Marc.
@jonshaw71923 жыл бұрын
I bought a pair of 47mm disc wheels from Elite about a month before you. I similarly had about 12 week period from order placement to receipt in the UK though the majority of this did seem to be down to the shipment period rather than manufacturing. Few comments I have on them: - very good customer comms and service - upgraded the hubs to DT Swiss 350 and don't have the noise problem. Also makes servicing of and getting spares for the hubs easier. - paid around £550 with the upgrades (Inc Sapim CX Ray spokes) and customs charges. At this price they are incredible value and at least half the price of comparable branded wheels of similar spec. - I had the same tyre seating issues as you too with Schwalbe Pro One Tubeless tyres. I thought this might be a tyre issue but probably not. My LBS were able to sort it without any problems in the end. GP5000s, whilst renowned for being a tight fit, were an absolute no go before reverting to the Schwalbe tyres. Overall I've been really impressed with them and would definitely recommend them but would strongly suggest upgrading the hubs and spokes when ordering.
@paragp145732 жыл бұрын
I too am awaiting my first set of Elite 50mm wheelset with DT-Swiss hub and Sepim CX Spokes in Dubai. Would appreciate your review/experience at this point after few months of usage. I am planning to fit Conti GP5000 clinchers on these. TIA.
@jonshaw71922 жыл бұрын
@@paragp14573 don't even bother trying to fit GP5000 tyres if you are going for tubeless. It is impossible to get them on to these wheels. I tried it for hours but gave up
@paragp145732 жыл бұрын
Thanks. But I am not going for tubeless. Regular tyres with inner tube.
@cormacjordan71732 жыл бұрын
On servicing the front hubs, I think there is a tubular spacer bridging the two centre races. I've seen Hambini push this aside allowing you to then access the back of the opposite bearing and tap the bearing out using a drift of some sort (a pin punch from screwfix and the like). I'd advise resting the hub on some sort of cup shaped object so the force of your blows aren't dissipated. Alternatively, if you don't want to whack em out, have dig about on youtube. There are a few good vids on how to make DIY bearing pullers.
@reinholdachleitner20693 жыл бұрын
Really great cheap carbon wheeset review even though they don't appear to look cheap.Nice Cross section drawing and explanation of tubeless tyres and rims and how they work together.Great videos and they're always a pleasure to watch.Safe cycling.👍👌💯
@sjkello Жыл бұрын
I had Elites recommended to me by a bike shop owner(in Aus) who uses the Marvels as his everyday wheels. Have exceeded all expectation, the hubs in particular are real standouts. Will be getting Drive wheelset on my next build, superb value for money with exceptional quality. Customer service was excellent in my experience too. 👍
@deogratias9483 жыл бұрын
Since the begining of your Channel i created 2 bikes thanks to you They are absolutly devine
@rodneyau48843 жыл бұрын
This is the best illustration of tubeless tyre fitting simply using a whiteboard. This channel being "Under-rated" is an under-statement!!!
@viralfire3 жыл бұрын
To remove those front wheel bearings you need a bearing puller with a slide-hammer. It's the correct and non-violent method of removing bearings.
@hasvan143 жыл бұрын
Just by watching how organised is the video ( the exactly moment to put the advertising after the intro ) makes you want to watch the whole video omds this looks like a bike reviews tv show 🤣 this channel is so nice.
@StanicEnemy Жыл бұрын
13:28 bro bro bro you really made me happy, ive been always thinking that hearing ping ping noises from pumping up my tires means theres something wrong with my tire. Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@TraceVelo Жыл бұрын
You're welcome dude 😎
@christianpertschy89123 жыл бұрын
Brilliant review! I'm riding Elitewheels since 2019 for my "everyday setup" and got quite the same impressions as you. I have the SLR wheelset with ceramic bearings / rimbrake which was double the price as yours, but they are very performative for that pricepoint. My other wheelset is Durace and they can compete in speed, stiffness and brake performance (even when decending Pordoi Pass or Stilfers Joch, which is quite challenging for rimbrakes). Still, the hubs are difficult to service and not very reliable. My freehub broke in 2 pieces (I don't know why and luckily the cassette kept it together) and a view months later I broke the axis while servicing the hub. Elite is very helpful providing spareparts, but delivery takes really long. If I would buy this wheels again, I would opt for the dt swiss hubs, to make this easier and the wheels more reliable. But overall you get good value for the money.
@adezet2 жыл бұрын
hello, how about the novatec hub 271 front and 372 rear?
@dbax69413 жыл бұрын
Ordered some after seeing your build video. Very pleased with them. I would echo all your comments except my delivery time was 1 month and no duty to pay 😀. I ordered a converter from Amazon so could use on quick release forks.
@gg4760-k5n3 жыл бұрын
Either you catch the lip of the front bearing with a "chasse-goupille" of the wide diameter you can find and that still catches the inner lip, or go with a flat screwdriver and just hammer it out bits by bits while placing your tool across the lip so it doesn't come out sideways. For your back bearing place the hub on something solid so your hammering energy doesn't go wasted. Alternatively you can also hammer it out without the shaft but using the screw-drive or pin pusher. All should come out. One last trick would be to apply heat to heat-up the hub shell and let it expand and make it easier to push the back bearing out.
@elvisderblasehase95223 жыл бұрын
I have 2 pairs of elitewheels. Both rimbrake. One is 50mm slr2 with ceramic bearings. The other is a 38mm with bitex hubs and only weighs 1270 grams. Both wheels run perfectly
@rubenvor3 жыл бұрын
Another great review! Fun to watch as always! I got a set of MTB Elite carbon wheels, with the 12K twill finish and they look amazing! Also had to wait a long time for them to make them, so anyone buying those be prepared to wait, but you will get them for sure! About the free hub noise, that for me is the #1 pro! I actually serviced the free hub before the 1st use, just to get rid of the factory grease, and put a very light suspension grease. They are now ear bleeding loud. Next time I'll put some shattered glass in for more noise.
@corriepotter3 жыл бұрын
I have the same set but upgraded to the dt-swiss 350's. Well worth the upgrade as the hub is almost silent. I love the wheelset but I had the exact same issue getting the tire seated with tubeless. I ended up putting the sealant in through the valve and making a mess but got it done. They have been good ever since.
@infinati3 жыл бұрын
Been using these wheels as clinchers on a gravel bike and they've held up well.
@smiffy10uk3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this since I first spotted them on your bike, I think the pros easily outweigh the cons so I think I’ll pull the trigger on them. Thanks
@TraceVelo3 жыл бұрын
Yeah just keep an eye on the bearings, especially the the rear, and you will be golden!
@smiffy10uk3 жыл бұрын
@@TraceVelo nice one cheers man.
@spiloFTW2 жыл бұрын
Yes you can REMOVE a bearing by hitting or pushing the inside race. But it will be damaged. Do it only if you have a new bearing and a press tool that can push it in by pushing the outside race. Some threaded rod washers nuts and big sockets could be used to improvise a tool. You can also use a punch and hit the outside race but you have to go slow and move around to push it in evenly.
@roilev2 жыл бұрын
I bought the deepest wheels, 80mm, rim brakes. It took quite awhile to manufacture and deliver, and there were issues at the customs. But they look gorgeous, very expensive and make me go faster! Kudos to Sukie for the customer support too!
@bradsolomon65422 жыл бұрын
Do you mind sharing what the issues were at customs and whether you had to pay a customs tax? (And to what country?)
@roilev2 жыл бұрын
@@bradsolomon6542 For smaller packets, you pay the taxes directly at ali express. But for packets over $150 you have to go to the customs, declare the value, prove that it is the correct value you paid, and pay the import duties. And they charged me some extra import taxes. I paid around 200 euro at the customs. Bulgaria
@markamos26023 жыл бұрын
Luke add a decent amount of grease into the hub/freehub cavity (ie where pawls engage near inner bearing) takes the edge off the really noisy freehub you mention.. also helps with duration and additional weather proofing...I have two pairs of Elite wheels 50mm and 38mm both have lasted really well .... one with DT swiss and the other with stock hubs... agree probably go for DT swiss for next pair.. but i found the stock hubs ok to service and will replace stock bearings for higher quality ones when they need it... I also went for BRASS nipples as i wanted a bullet proof wheel
@TraceVelo3 жыл бұрын
So I've tried grease in the past, but in my experience it can make the spring loaded pawls of the freehub a little sluggish, especially when it's cold, and the grease is really viscous. This can lead to poor engagement, where maybe only 2 of the 6 pawls will properly seat in the ratchet. Really get the power down in this scenario and you can completely bugger the hubs. I did this once years ago, so I really try and avoid it. I guess a very light grease may be fine, and I guess it does depend on the specifics of each hub, but I would be cautious myself....
@Pauleymack3 жыл бұрын
Just had some of these delivered this week. Not set them up yet but just wanted to say, they came with tape and two spare spokes👍 also, didn't pay any tax on them👍
@sasha3713 жыл бұрын
yuan an is actually the Elite Wheels. Hubs are made by another company called something like ferei and you can find the same hub by ztto, etc. Actually the weakest part of wheels are hubs. After 2.5 years of use of my Elite Wheels I had to change bearings just now. And no issues with decals, or anything else. They catch quite a bit of cross winds. And bearings used to be ceramic, made in Taiwan, not China. I had problem with rear hub and they responded and supported. Also, I have their gravel version and those are wicked! Mud, snow, typical English terrain and "gravel" roads, fields - Love those wheels! And I have the same noise hub - on gravel roads and trails this is so helpful as I freewheel approaching people, works as a bell! :) people give me the way :)
@suhdud46463 жыл бұрын
Trace Velo notification, I see, I click, I like and then I watch while admiring my 9 year old set of Chinese 80mm carbon wheels that are still as true as the day I bought then in 2012.
@grooveseeker62693 жыл бұрын
For the front: you have to push the spacer in the middle any direcion, so you have access to the inner race of the bearing, then you tap it out with screwdriver/mallet
@j.kimmer15093 жыл бұрын
I love a loud hub... i ride along the beach "bike only" path on the sand and during busy weekends we get 10-15 head count herd group of wide-bodied raised voice black folks walking along the bikes only path and it's nice to have a loud hub to let them know i am coming so we can all traverse safely. Louder the better.
@johnchristopherallaga73193 жыл бұрын
Thanks for always making these videos. highly appreciate it especially here in our country where cycling is considered a very expensive sport. your vids help us find good quality products for a fraction of the price of the premium ones. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
@visjenl2 жыл бұрын
11:50 Tip to getting those front bearings out: Take a 8mm anchor bolt from the hardware store (this can be named a solid wall anchor bolt), tension it up (not to much) then give the bold some good smacks to get the bearing out.
@rafaeladi003 жыл бұрын
The fact that you put a lot of effort on reviewing these wheels make me somehow want to buy it since it seems fairly safe and it looks really cool. The biggest wall within cycling is always the price point for this type of product and im happy to see there is a company putting effort to make it cheaper while making sure the product is safe as a main point.
@une_olive3 жыл бұрын
16:25 pretty sure the disk rubbing is caused by fork flexing under load (the calliper is moving slightly relative to the disk)
@allanfullilove7743 жыл бұрын
I also purchased a set of these wheels and have done 3000Km on them. Amazing price and great product Keep up the channel its super stuff
@damianhall45543 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of bargians to be had with cheap hubs cost and weight savings... The downside is that they require regular servicing, grease packing and bearing replacement. Worth a video on the topic I think! It's not that hard :-) :-) Adding an ickle bit of grease (not oil) will quieten the spawl noise out too.
@chriscross56893 жыл бұрын
The CSC wheels with straight pull huns I got from AEx for.my wife are spot on.. she's loved em, brake well and gub sounds sweet.. not too loud.. more like a cat humming.
@alfonsokhiew28723 жыл бұрын
I've used this wheelset for a year now. Even going on gravel with it.
@TraceVelo3 жыл бұрын
Nice, good to know 👌
@alfonsokhiew28723 жыл бұрын
Finally finished the video, yes I have the same annoying tire unseating issue. Looks like it's not an isolated incident with the stock.
@THEMONSTER0473 жыл бұрын
@@alfonsokhiew2872 does it worth the risk??
@alfonsokhiew28723 жыл бұрын
@@THEMONSTER047 Yeah, its inexpensive after all. The hub seal is not very good, so water can get in. Set it up tubeless. I've gone on chunky gravel and doing small jumps on them offroad. To be fair, you are much better off buying a different wheelset for gravel, the internal rim width is only 17mm and I use it with a 35mm GravelKing SS+
@bendunbar83343 жыл бұрын
On the front hub, the cylinder in between the bearings should be able to be pushed to one side, then you can knock the bearings out.
@TraceVelo3 жыл бұрын
OK nice, thanks for the comment. Had someone else in the comments mention this too, so ill def give it a try when the bearings wear out. Bearings on the front tend to last MUCH longer in my experience, so hopefully won't be too soon 😂
@Jayneflakes3 жыл бұрын
@@TraceVelo When I saw your front hub bearing dilemma, it reminded me of how the bearings are fitted into my motorcycle wheels. The bearings can be replaced by pushing the centre tube to the side and then knocking out with a punch, which is fiddly, but doable. A bearing press really helps with refitting too. Good luck, even though I am retired from cycling these days, I love your videos.
@imcheaperthanyou98053 жыл бұрын
I agreed with Ben. When you install your new bearings throw them in a freezer for a while and if possible heat your hub. It will make it much easier.
@pscoop3 жыл бұрын
I ordered a pair of these wheels with the standard Pillar spokes and the RD7 hub, 50mm deep and 25mm wide rims and paired them with Hutchinson 28mm TR. FWIW I didn’t have any issues getting the tyres or seating the bead. Getting tubeless setup was a breeze. I’ve only done jus over 100miles on them so far but they are great - a super smooth ride. I agree with Trace that the no 1 thing about Elite is the communication - better than any other seller on Ali, EBay, or anywhere I’ve used to be honest. For that reason alone I will order another pair for my rim brake bike. About my only regret is not upgrading to a better hub. Not that they are terrible, but the freehub is downright rude, although on the bright side I don’t need to warn anyone I’m coming, they hear from a mile off. I think as long as you keep an eye on them they should be fine. I might order another freehub just so I have a spare. My wheels took just over a month from order to delivery, but Sukie @ Elite kept me up to date with progress and sent photos before they were dispatched. All in all I would highly recommend.
@noamharari24093 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that video. I own a set of 38mm slt disk and just order a 50mm BWA Front. I am really really happy with the wheels and experienced very good service and communication with the seller. Regarding to Yuan An : it is the main company ,and Elite wheels is a brand (or sub company) of that company
@sie14643 жыл бұрын
This channel is such a treat to watch. Quality over quantity!
@Joe-qr6ft3 жыл бұрын
NGL, Lord Wheelie made me laugh 🤣
@mr_musette2 жыл бұрын
I have some elite wheels and they've been great for the past 2 years, need to replace the freehub now and just wanted to say this video has been super helpful for doing so. cheers.
@tuhack3 жыл бұрын
in front - inner axle is "mounted" on rubber orings, so you should be able to squeeze just enough it near end next to bearing to have visible lip which you can start knocking with some narrow bar or similar tool, or you can use blind bearing tool remover. Regarding unseated tire issue is more to tire than rim. I had gp5000tl no such a problem, recently changed to Pro one Schwalbe and one tire have same issue as your.
@jamiemarshall9262 Жыл бұрын
I heat the hubs up with a paint stripping heat gun to get the bearings out of hubs, bearing usually drops out around about the point that residual grease and oil start to smoke
@kylecannon42173 жыл бұрын
For the rear wheel, removing the drive side bearing. Insert the axle, reverse so more is sticking out the non drive side. Should help a little to get the stuck bearing out.
@NicolasGarel12013 жыл бұрын
get your rims from tandell, cheap but good quality. Pair them with good brand hubs of your liking and sapim cx ray for example. Then you need a wheel builder if you cant do it yourself. Doing this I got a great pair of wheel for one of my bike with different height profile between front and rear, with dt swiss hubs, and final price was 500euros for a pair as good as 3x or 4x more expensive retail wheels.
@sirhansel2 жыл бұрын
For Schwalbes -- take the valve core adapter off the AirShot and screw it on right over the valve core while it is inserted. Then, keep your floor pump attached to the AirShot so that when you release the air and the tire fakes you out with the bead sound, the valve core is already in there, and you can start pumping up to beading pressure. Finally, when you pop the AirShot off you won't lose any pressure.
@raycostanzo25223 жыл бұрын
I have had my set of Elite SLR now for 1600km still as true as the day I got them. Mine are rim brake. Great communication even when had questions after about hub. Hubs have had small issues that I have been able to fix once understand how they work it was very simple adjusts. Ceramic bearings are still as smooth as butter. Great breakdown and info on this video. Would definitely buy again. For the price they can't be beat. I'm attempting an iornman on them later in the year I trust them that much.
@buiry79732 жыл бұрын
I’m looking to get a same pair too, are you still riding them and if so are they still true and are the brake pads still good? Thanks
@NickHoddinott3 жыл бұрын
Another great video. I have a set of these just waiting to be paired with my Velobuild R-099 frame that's being painted right now. Glad you didn't have many issues. Kind of pleased I kept it simple with 50mm clinchers as a beginner to all this. I ordered mine in 8th March and received them on 16th April, so delivery seems better now. Paid £292 with upgraded Pilar spokes and didn't pay any import duty. (I think because AliEx now have to add UK VAT).
@skinheadjc3 жыл бұрын
I had very similar wheels, but unbranded rims and hubs from ebay (the cheaper spokes). Weighed in at 1780. No issues with seating tubeless tyres.... But managed to pick them up for less than £200 Inc shipping.... That was a couple of years ago - sold them on a couple of months ago and upgraded to some Nexties.
@donbridgewater29883 жыл бұрын
You can get replacement bearings through the bearing company, you can order direct. The numbers on the seals tells you the size you need for replacements.
@McHayes762 жыл бұрын
I have the same wheels, 45mm deep, 28 mm wide. Have been using them for about a year now. I got their own ratchet hubs which work flawless so far. Not the lightest carbon wheels, but for the 450 euro price I'm impressed!
@toddstrain36292 жыл бұрын
Which tires did you use on your wheels? I have the 40mm depth with 19mm internal width and 29mm external width. I bought SwableOne TLE 700x25 tires and they will not fit.
@McHayes762 жыл бұрын
@@toddstrain3629 Schwalbe One TLE 28mm. A nightmare to get on indeed. It helps to put them on another wheelset with innertube and let them sit for a week. Then switch to these wheels.
@toddstrain36292 жыл бұрын
@@McHayes76 Thanks for the advice. I will try that.
@mikeymike17923 жыл бұрын
Would comparisons to things like the Vel 50 RL (£699 - 1610g) or the Prime RR-50 (£540 - 1635g) be more fair? Let's be honest, the people on Rovals and Zipps aren't buying Elites. The people on Primes, Vels and (maybe) Pacentis might.
@stvdxbfinneh1163 жыл бұрын
I brought the same wheels 5 mons ago, so far in Dubai weather No issues at all at 2000km. I'm looking forward to my second order. Hope you can also make videos for cycling jerseys in Aliexpress.
@paragp145732 жыл бұрын
I am awaiting my first set of Elite 50mm deep wheelset with DT-Swiss hub and Sepim CX Spokes in Dubai. Would appreciate your review/experience at this point after few months of usage. TIA.
@mikkelhenriksen3 жыл бұрын
Got a pair of Elite wheels as well. Can only agree with how good the communication with the seller is. My xrehub and a bearring broke after 2 monthe. Seller shippen new straight away. Frighttime is awfull and seller should maybe consider other shipping options
@colinhession40 Жыл бұрын
How have the wheels been for you since this vid? please do an update video would be great :)
@Mike-qc8cr3 жыл бұрын
The nightmare of trying to get a tyre to re-seat on these wheels while on a solo ride puts me right off! The taxi fare home would cover a large chunk of upgrading to Hunt. Good value if you don't mind cleaning the muck out of the bearings after every damp ride and buying extra tools to replace the bearings. I'm not convinced.
@TraceVelo3 жыл бұрын
Yeah totally fair, the rim issue was annoying, and the weather proofing isnt great... But they are cheap, so you have to make sacrifices somewhere...
@st9393 жыл бұрын
To push the second bearing out you need to push it all the way through the opposite side, opposite to the pawl or remove the pawl (with a special tool). The front ones you can just knock-out by slightly displacing the internal tube that holds them in place and push new ones in with a proper bearing press tool. I have several sets of Elite wheels, problems only occur at the rear hubs. All my sets have ceramic bearings (hybrid ones i.e. ceramic balls with steel races). The wheels are great after thousands of kilometers, some rear hub issues but nothing major, no complaints and excellent value. My advise for anyone considering a pair of carbon wheels from Elite: - Definitely go for them but customize them when ordering with DT Swiss (or Chris King or other hub) and Sapim CX Ray spokes. This way they will offer unbeatable value for money and fantastic performance.
@adezet2 жыл бұрын
hello how about novatec 271 and 372 hub?
@yurik23053 жыл бұрын
I was looking for a legit review on them for weeks before placing the order couple of months ago. I’ve opted for a more expensive Elite with RD13 hub and lighter spokes and while I waited on them (lead time was around 6 weeks prior to shipping) I was able to get on clearance DT Swiss ERC 1100 for $800 or 570 GBP. At the end canceled my Elite order, but otherwise would’ve received them by now. Great channel and very underrated! Subscribed.
@luukrutten12953 жыл бұрын
Pretty standard hub arrangement front and rear. Only downside is you need an over axle press to put the bearings back in. Getting them out is very easy.
@kevonian3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got the same wheel. 60mm 28mm width. I have had no problems 300 miles in. Got slightly tapped by a car too and haven’t seen an issue. Paid $370 USD
@TraceVelo3 жыл бұрын
Nice, glad your wheels are holding up! Thanks for the comment 👌
@ozan30763 жыл бұрын
Thats the most friendly way to say got hit by a car :) loved it! Ride safe and enjoy your wheels.
@tomrace30573 жыл бұрын
I have a pair of Elite wheels (still waiting for my frame to build my new bike). I have exactly the same issue with the tyres not staying properly seated when deflated. In fact they don't give the reassuring snapping on sound when inflated. However, so far they have maintained pressure just fine. I slopped the sealant in before putting the tyre fully on, so I didn't need to remove the valve. Slightly messier, I guess, but not too much. I'm looking forward to getting them on the road. I second your views on Elite's communication - first class.
@jackofharts943 жыл бұрын
I find the muc-off protect and shine spray works wonders with removing the water in bearings after a wet ride, keeps my novatec hub going well