Elizabeth Holmes DISASTROUS Character Reference Letters

[@SammyNeedsAnAlibi]

I can tell you where her parents failed her- lest we forget her Dad was an Executive for ENRON! Scamming people is in her blood.

[@tomasfuchsbauer1536]

she learned from the best 🇪🇺🇮🇪

[@HandmadeDarcy]

Yes! Thank you! Let's not forget who all those "poor victims" who invested and sat on her board, were, too - family friends who had literally run the country and could have picked up the phone, or hired someone to do so, and asked the CEOs of any medical technology company in the world whether concept was even possible. The Board are not victims, she hadn't started lying when she gathered them together, she was just presenting a crazy, disruptive idea, like any other startup founder. They invested poorly, with doing due diligence and then HELPED her to pull in other investors and get her access to media. They should be co-defendants for enabling her - if she'd gone to a normal group of VCs they'd have shut her down in an instant.

[@SammyNeedsAnAlibi]

@@HandmadeDarcy Thank you and YES to your comments too! If this was GE, Boeing, or any other properly run company, they would of ousted her a long time ago.

[@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim]

I’m absolutely astounded that General Mattis fell for this con.

[@JessicaPradoHanson]

I agree, when I learned that I realized this was no accident. She learned actions at home that these people find normal that are actually deeply toxic for all humans they impact. They need to learn how to be healthy and stop acting like others are crazy for not letting them do anything they want. If we stop letting the ruling class rule the world we can be MUCH safer. She clearly feels entitled to rule others by force in how she chose to act and people like this need to be done. It is harming us all so much. We need to grow strong enough to face the full truth of how we impacted others so we can evolve to be our best. If we keep denying the bad things then we just stay shitty and delusional about it. If we admit when we are wrong we grow and evolve. Some people didn’t learn that and need to be forced to learn it by others holding them accountable. I don’t even agree with the prison system, I think they should focus on creating a framework that makes self-actualization and transcendence easier like they do in healthier nations.

[@vbachman6742]

She is a perfect example of a narcissist who does not feel guilt or remorse. She deserves everything she gets.

[@jhoughjr1]

Its the only way they can come close to learning.

[@paulallen2919]

even if she didn't feel guilty, she should at least act like she is guilty, she is still playing the part of an inocent victim and the judge can see right through that.

[@EricLaermans]

And possibly more.

[@timwade1266]

@@fbksakskier and Clinton. Actually both Clintons.

[@Dad-979]

What did she do?

[@sarahb1862]

I humbly disagree sir, I think these letters actually spoke DIRECTLY about her character, which is that she has not and never will care about the damage she's caused. She is only concerned for herself.

[@wjatube]

Haha. That's well said although I don't think her lawyers wanted the letters to be literally about her character which we all know (and see) is what got her where she's going.

[@norml.hugh-mann]

Her lawyers failed in their job of protecting her by allowing these to be submitted..but by doing so actually protect society a little bit by enlightening as to her real self

[@ttshelley1]

Haha true!

[@garypike4996]

Perhaps her lawyers wanted her to be convicted as was the case in The Lincoln Lawyer script based on the novel by Michael Connelly.

[@kalijasin]

If she had such a great character then she never would of committed fraud to begin with.

[@sbkpilot1]

Precisely, instead of feeling empathy for the victims and remorseful for their loss she is highlighting how she is the victim and how much pain she has gone through... Typical narcissist

[@lilg2300]

highlights also the narcissistic environment she is surrounded by, first of all her parents. probably they weren't even ill advised by the lawyers, but simply didn't want to take any advise.

[@TheGumbyRules]

@@fbksakskier Holmes did a fundraiser in '16 for Hillary.

[@colico14]

@@TheGumbyRules It helps to have powerful friends. Purely transactional.

[@Skank_and_Gutterboy]

Her lawyers aren't coming off real bright, either.

[@ThatTracyJuneStafford]

@@Skank_and_Gutterboy And yet, she whines that they ( her lawyers) have cost her over 30 million dollars!!

[@DisabilityExams]

Hard to write a character reference letter for a psychopath

[@jodi2847]

Sounds like Hillary.

[@justabill5780]

Sounds like Hillary AND Donald.

[@SamSung-ww3rp]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 True!

[@andreaslandgren1681]

So true.

[@woodsplitter3274]

More like a sociopath

[@AudreysBrains]

Like in her mom’s when she’s all like “We hope she can continue inventing!!” or whatever- like, lady…did you miss the whole reason this whole thing happened?!

[@jamietaylor5570]

Well she didn't really invent anything in the first place. She had a thought about a product/capability that would be nice to have but didn't come up with any way to deliver it.

[@cortneyrens]

Exactly she never invented anything, and was told by many in the industry that her concept was not possible, due to the physical laws of blood products, but she thought she was smart and experts were dumb and beneath her

[@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki]

@@jamietaylor5570 I'm thimking about flying to Mars with no parachute but I don't expect anyone to fund me.

[@normancarter5419]

Why doesn't she invent a noose in prison and commit an Epstein, she has zero remorse, keep on inventing? I would be scared to let her have a set of Lincoln Logs or a LEGO Set and trying to promote it as some new medical device.

[@Heyu7her3]

She invented a huge lie.

[@Michelle-ym8yw]

I was also assuming she'd get like 4ish years. I think she got a longer sentence because she annoyed the judge with all these machinations and lack of accountability. Having not 1 but 2 kids to try to get sympathy. All of these motions to dismiss the trial, delay sentencing, etc. Asking for 18 months home confinement. Blaming Balwani, trying to act like abuse or being raped in college (if it even happened) somehow was the cause of her defrauding people. And then continuing to take no responsibility and having no remorse for what she did. The letters you mentioned were just a reflection of the lack of accountability EH herself displays. I think the judge got really fed up and threw the book at her.

[@777jones]

11 years is a long time to be without a mother. I wonder if her husband will start to date and remarry soon, so the kids can have a new mother?

[@PungiFungi]

@@777jones that’s his problem. I wouldn’t worry about the kids. They are already privileged and have more advantages than most people. I can only hope the BIG ONE strike the West Coast and sink the whole damn family into the Pacific.

[@antonfarquar8799]

on target !!!!

[@colico14]

@@777jones She is incredibly selfish. She knew she'd be facing serious time and have to be away from them for years. She had no business having any children.

[@TheBreechie]

@@colico14 I suspect the children were planned as mitigating factors. Or hoped to be that

[@shoominati23]

A learned Male Lawyer once told me the following about writing reference letters : Don't write the atypical letter stating that one upon a time Justin learned of an Old Man whose Fence blew down in a recent Storm. Justin was so incensed at the Misfortune of this Old Man that he at once went over to the Old Man's house and with his own Money and Labour repaired the Fence and also fixed other parts of the Man's house that needed mending and Painted the Old Man's house as an extra show of Good Will!.. They don't want to hear that Lord Fauntleroy Garb, and they you will be lucky if they don't dismiss it out of hand. Instead, try highlighting Extant strengths in the Accused Person's character that might help them realise the faults in the character and to grow into a better person and reasons why it would be a mistake to send you to Prison. Half of the letters that get turned in, just give the Judge more Ammunition to 'Send the arrogant snotty-nosed little shit to Prison for a wake up call!'

[@crochunter35]

What the hell are you talking about?

[@MsPea]

I've never been to prison and don't know anyone who has. I started watching your videos when they popped up in my recommendations and have since subscribed. I think you have some great lessons on life even for those who are not facing prison. Being accountable. Being introspective and taking the time to reflect on your behavior. When you do hurt someone else or make a mistake that affects someone else, own it and don't make excuses, but find a way to make amends. So many more. We all face times when we're tempted to do something we know in our gut isn't right. Although those things might not lead to a prison sentence, they can indicate what kind of person we are. J. C. Watts said, " “Character is doing the right thing when nobody’s looking. There are too many people who think that the only thing that’s right is to get by, and the only thing that’s wrong is to get caught”. And that's so true. Character is the one thing nobody else can take from us. We have to learn how to cultivate that and protect it. I think your videos make people at least think about that, if not embrace it. Even if prison isn't in your future.

[@HandmadeDarcy]

It's so good to hear a professional express this. I was reading the reports on them and it was reminding me of similar letters and statements I've seen in some of the college r@pe cases in which the judges have give light sentences because of the boy's "potential". They all read to me like re-assertions of the excuses used as defence strategies - it's just not the boy we know; he would never do something like this if he was around the right people - and, essentially, denying the verdict, and making it clear that the people around them will continue to tell them that the judgement was unfair. Unfortunately, in those cases, judges joined the enabling team by giving them probation, or home detention, etc. and literally telling them that their future should not be negatively impacted by their horrendous act of disregard for the basic bodily autonomy of a fellow human. I'd like to say that I believe she will get more jail time than those boys because of the pain and terror she caused to the patients who used the machines, and to the whistleblowers she attacked, but I think we all know that any jail time she serves will be because she lied and took money from an ex-Secretary of State, and others of that social class, to which she belongs also.

[@cubemissy]

The people around Elizabeth cannot comment on her character because they are unaware of what the concept means. How do you describe something you have never learned? They describe how it hurts me me me, because that’s what was taught instead of character.

[@juliannebrancadora3476]

What about Ian Gibbons? There needs to be remorse for what this man and his family suffered at the hands of Theranos.

[@jbscpa]

Yes. This. 😢

[@irgski]

The letters DO speak to her character. She is a narcissist so SHE is the victim and everyone else was to blame.

[@nancya8262]

Brilliant!! Your message is so spot on -- not only for this self absorbed narcissist but for everyone. Take responsibility for your actions and work to make the world a better place. I read an article recently talking about Millennials being "shocked and devestated by everything but ashamed of NOTHING. She should be ashamed. Keep up the great work.

[@AlwaysASolution-qj9be]

Excellent statement in article. Thanks for sharing. What was article and publication? Would like to read.

[@donnafromnyc]

Gen Z 18 to 24 y/or have high rates of self reported diagnosed mental illness...42%. Harmony Healthcare IT study

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Thank you so much.

[@debrasellitti3006]

Cringeworthy letters! The Cory Booker eating nuts together cause they’re both vegans story - for real??!!! Gag me! She’s been enabled by everyone her whole life. The judge must have been dying of laughter. But it’s actually sad. She takes no responsibility still. These letters were a big mistake. What’s with her lawyers?! I will look at your character letters. Thank you. You are an inspiration.

[@wjatube]

agreed. So because she believes in liberal causes she should be excused for illegalities? Perhaps Booker thought if it worked for Hillary.

[@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki]

Me as the Judge:??? 100 years. out in 80.

[@OneiricBlur]

she isnt even vegan (an ethical stance and social justice movement). she just ate green juice and salads (which although is plant based, she was doing that coz it gave her energy to work more).

[@donnafromnyc]

@@OneiricBlur Balwani always told her she was fat, too.

[@sdaiwepm]

I used to know Cory Booker - seemed like a good guy. I'm sorry he got mixed up in this. I guess the Stanford+vegan bond was irresistible.

[@pb.j.1753]

I mean those photos of her being a happy mom were ultimate proof that she did not give a flying f about her victims.

[@beaulieuc8910]

or her kids

[@derekcho2312]

I wanted to share this with this specific community. I got away with my fraud. The statutes have run, so I can say it. But here's the kicker: working the 12 steps of NA, I had to pay it back. With interest. Overall, I'm blessed, wiser, but poorer.

[@andhisband]

Would *you* want a character reference from a former Enron executive? (That's her dad.)

[@wobblebottom3632]

Whenever I see the letters blaming Balwani, it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I shows no sense of accountability, empathy, or self awareness to make amends in the future. Very, very disappointing.

[@PungiFungi]

What do you expect from her? She obviously blew her probation officer interview so that they are recommending a 9 year sentence.

[@wobblebottom3632]

@@PungiFungi Should have hired this guy. It looks like she is getting 11-14 years.

[@donnafromnyc]

Davila played it by the sentencing guidelines book. A bit more than the probation officer reco, a bit less than what the prosecution wanted, and a LOT more than what the defense wanted.

[@PungiFungi]

@@donnafromnyc or more like he added two years on the spot above the probation recommendation because of the cringey character letters, Holmes showing up pregnant and remorseless and tried to manipulate him with her teary phoney speech.

[@donnafromnyc]

@@PungiFungi I doubt he did. Davila doesn't want to be overturned on appeal and anything like emotion or that type of reaction would give grounds.

[@helensmith8325]

Dr. Gibbons lost his life.

[@PungiFungi]

EVERYBODY is having a field day over these jokes passing off as character reference letters. I see the lack of self awareness and sociopathy runs in the family. She can only hope the Judge got bored reading the fifth letter and never got to the ones written by the immediate family because they are, indeed, very damaging and showed she have taken no responsibility for her actions. The letter written by Billy Evans also include photographs of them, living it up. Apparently, court of public opinion do not matter to her as long as she is out of prison and living a lavish lifestyle. What kind of punishment is that? I think at this point, her lawyers know this is a lost cause and is saying: EFF IT, and just do everything she asked. Because I am sure she is not listening. THEY get paid regardless.

[@lilg2300]

absolutely agree. her family is just like her, they are all full of themselves and manipulative rich narcissists.

[@mrich9654]

she’s a narcissist. and those letters are a character reference. a reference of exactly what she does, blames others

[@MrMcgooOG]

Her character is on full display when she got married, got 1 kid and got knocked up ALL while she is on trial. Using kids as a tool to reduce her sentencing should be grounds to double her sentence. What a wretched being.

[@beaulieuc8910]

and having kids knowing the grandparents, nannies and father will end up looking after them

[@GillianBerry]

saw you on Harvard Lawyer Lee! good job! and congrats on turning your life around ! you're an awesome person!

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Thank you so much!!

[@faithlesshound5621]

The problem with being outed as a malignant narcissist is that large swathes of society admire such people: in politics, business and religion as well as in entertainment.

[@cheechalker8430]

Remember when Mr Bill took Sluggo to court and Mr Bill’s mother took the stand in defense of her son? In the middle of the questioning, Sluggo took a break, and Mrs Bill reappears on the the stand all beaten up (presumably by Sluggo) and says “Mr Bill is a very bad boy and has committed many felonies”

[@RubyRedhead1]

The most moving comment in this whole video is the one Justin made. He said hopes his mother is proud of what he has accomplished and the good he has done since he got out of jail. I hope she hears that and lets him know just how proud she is of what a wonderful man he has become.

[@heyheytaytay]

This was fascinating. And I'm so happy she got the sentence she received but I still have my doubts about her actually serving her sentence. I'm afraid she'll go judge shopping for an appeal. Or worse, she'll abscond to some country without an extradition treaty with the U.S. You can't tell me since receiving her sentence she hasn't been thinking of ways to get out of serving it.

[@JessicaPradoHanson]

I am new here it is is lovely meeting you and seeing another person that turned their life around. I know how hard it is to change to that level and I honor the work it took you to get here! I look forward to more!

[@do3807]

I love the concept of this channel, and the delivery and execution. Well done, sir

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Thank you so much!

[@zelloyello6303]

Good to see you cover this. She needed to see your show. Oh well.

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Thank you. Todays the day…

[@deni8688]

I loved this. First time here. I loved your straight talk and illuminating the legal system. Thk you 🇬🇧

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

You're welcome and thank you for watching!!

[@jeffsilverberg5848]

If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. She's going away for a very long time. Fraud, conspiracy, wire fraud, and harm to others physically. She scared the hell out of some people with her deceptions. Falsifying data that hurt many people. Pure evil and pure cruelty. Hopefully she will never see the light of day after this year is over. My condolences to the families and victims.

[@jhoughjr1]

She's far far too rich and connected for that. She will get basically nothing.

[@mactheknife7049]

She made the biggest mistake you can possibly make as a scam artist: she scammed people with power and financial resources. Those people? Get payback.

[@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim]

She got 11 years 👏 👏 👏

[@dmichael100]

@@jhoughjr1 Turns out you were wrong about that. The world isn't always so cynical.

[@RobG1729]

What I've seen of the letters leads me to suspect her request was for specific content in the letters. A bitter cynic might think they were ghost-written.

[@michellsmith4693]

You don't have to be a felon to pay for something that you have done. We all need to examine our past and try to do better.

[@pearlsr1880]

Elizabeth never did anything to help herself for her lengthy lengthy, lengthy pause of trial the was dragged for years. She had every opportunity to reflect on herself and be humble in those Covid months that delayed her trial. Instead she still never accepted responsibility, kept blaming everyone else, desperately delayed her prison sentence. If she accepted her failures from the beginning and genuinely admitted that her 'revolutionary' machine never delivered, she probably would have a shorter sentence.

[@lizw.4901]

I agree with your really wise and informative comments - very thoughtful. And yes, Holmes should be apologizing but she has not.

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Thank you for watching.

[@donnafromnyc]

Asking Cory "Spartacus" Booker,who grew up on the mean streets of Harrington Park NJ, one of the nicer suburbs of NYC, but pretends to be a Newark homie, for a character reference is like asking the founder of FTX.

[@BureauKat]

She's convicted of financial crimes.n But what about all those she put in danger by peddling faulty blood test readings?

[@crimony3054]

They got dirty Covid vaccines. How does she continue to be the worst offender now that were on the other side of the pandemic (and we still don't know where it came from)?

[@brubrushanghai]

she belongs in jail. thanks for your analysis on her inability to comply with a process

[@lauritamburrino5179]

And they should have taken her right into custody

[@justicegusting2476]

“They don’t put pretty people like me in jail.” ~~Dizzy Miss Lizzy~~

[@jamesrobbins1243]

I was hoping she would do more time. She ran that shit like a cult.

[@walkyourdog6584]

I hope the Judge agrees with you. I just listened to the Daryll Brooks trial. One comment the Judge made during sentencing was his complete lack of empathy or remorse.

[@PungiFungi]

I have said this elsewhere, if the rest of us laypeople can see through her BS and totally turned off by these saccharine letters, imagine what Judge Davila, who probably had seen it all (well, Holmes is probably the first time he have met such a narc socio), is thinking.

[@walkyourdog6584]

@@PungiFungi Interviews with some of the professors, who remember her at college, painted a picture of someone who was insistent, arrogant, overly self confident, and entitled. Someone who wanted to skip ahead of the rest without doing the hard grunt work. Her company was built on lies and illusions.

[@정소라-v9n]

I'm a foreigner I've heard that writing a bad check could be a prison sentence in us 11 years prison seems to be a very generous one for her!!

[@BlueJeansTarot]

With respect, I’m quite sure that her parents AREN’T blaming themselves or wondering what they could have done differently. They blame everyone else, and they taught her to do the same. Her character is that she has a very weak character and thinks - always and forever - only of herself. Good vid.

[@UNUSUALUSERNAME220]

YES! Thank you! This is Mom & Dad all the way! This is a lifetime of lessons from them! She LEARNED how to do these things. Don't forget, her brother was involved with this too! It's the family business! What kind of a Mom does not tell her that getting pregnant and having a child while in prison is not a good idea!? That says a lot to me! Thanks Mom & Dad!

[@BlueJeansTarot]

@unusual username LOL! And her dad was an Enron executive. I mean . . . *that* apple didn't fall very far from the poisonous tree , right?! I wouldn't be surprised if the two -- TWO -- pregnancies were her mom's idea for getting out of prison altogether. The entire family is just infuriating.

[@klaus9688]

I truly appreciate your channel. The competence as well as the integrity of it.

[@dilsiam]

She wasn't a psychopath, she was a malignant narcissist how could Elizabeth Holmes not know she was damaging people, or that she was spending a fortune in a scam that ultimately would send her to prison. That money could had been spent on something that could have been proved scientifically.

[@addrock7695]

A few ounces of lead, will give her the sentence she deserves..

[@sharonsekhon9475]

She’s both.

[@richardhoff1626]

One of the character reference peeps, Senator Corey Booker, lives in a fantasy world. As Mayor, he fantasized that he would clean up Newark, NJ (He didn't). He fantasized that he had held a homeless man as he was dying (He didn't). He claimed that he had a groundswell for a presidential run (He didn't). He claimed the love of his life was Rosario Dawson (She wasn't and she's a lesbian, Senator). He's claims that he is characters such as "Spartacus" to try to get his point across. The sad part of all of this is this is a guy who has so much brains and so many good instincts and then does so many stupid things. The letter he wrote was absurd. He even tried to play the "Vegan" card. The whole thing is both sad and outrageous.

[@tbforester]

He lost all credibility once I learned he wrote a letter of support of that criminal! what an idiot.

[@vdub4216]

Character Reference Letters start at 5:53

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Thanks for watching.

[@charliebarrow7086]

Hey Justin, saw you on the Harward Lawyer Site where you discussed the Chrisley sentencing, and came right to your page. Good Job, glad I found you. 👏

[@MrShobar]

If you're tempted to pity her, please read John Carreyrou's book: "Bad Blood". You'll quickly reformulate your point of view.

[@peterbradshaw8018]

I am now reading it. It could be argued she drove a man to commit suicide. Sought to destroy people's lives.

[@MarieJesne]

Great perspective! It would be interesting if you could do a Top 3 best letters from the Holmes case and Bottom 3 worst letters. I spent last night and this afternoon reading through them and some are real doozies. It seems like she got anyone who had a passing acquaintance to write one. Some were just bizarre.

[@Leonicles]

Great idea! I'd watch that vid!

[@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim]

hear hear!

[@MarieJesne]

(to clarify I mean Best/Worst in a legal context, like which helped her case and which hurt it. I think there are some very entertaining ones that don't really hurt or help. Maybe could include those as dishonorable mentions 😆)

[@lornarettig3215]

Oooo! I remember your video about the importance of contrition and good character references - excited to hear your thoughts on this! (The whole contrition thingy is still way out of her reach, apparently...)

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Stunned her lawyers allowed all the blaming and excusing in her letters-that’s not the purpose of a CHARACTER letter.

[@PungiFungi]

@@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial yes. The same argument that was used in her defense during her trial and it didn’t worked then. So using it again to expect a different outcome…as Einstein said: insanity.

[@AmericanPhilanthropist]

@@PungiFungi Very well said and very applicable to her situation.

[@GaiaCarney]

Great analysis, White Collar Advice!

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Thanks so much…

[@redwoods7370]

Makes me see Cory Booker in a new light after reading the character reference letter for her. She's a great person who deserves leniency because she shared almonds with him???? Really pathetic.

[@EricLaermans]

We have allowed society to let these kind of people to proper. Silicon-valley and self-promotion go hand in hand.

[@TooLooze]

Letters mentioned in the headline start at 05:57.

[@theovolz3073]

I feel like when you're obviously guilty and refuse to take a plea deal (which I believe is what Holmes was offered?) then she kind of deserves to get what is coming to her.

[@yaffaNC-17]

Didn’t realize she was offered one. What would have happened if she had taken it?

[@theovolz3073]

@@yaffaNC-17 I’m guessing she’d have only had to plead guilty to 1 or 2 charges and served a token amount of prison time (12 - 18 months?). Certainly less than what she was sentenced to now.

[@cf8778]

Holmes is a narcissist who not only hasn't paid the victims what they are owed, she has not paid her first set of attorneys. These letters speak directly to her character.

[@MondoBeno]

She creeps me out, because of the way she uses people. From the get go, she could've come clean about everything in exchange for probation. Instead, she chose to have a child while the trial was going on, knowing full well that the jig was up. Now she's using the child as an excuse to avoid justice.

[@looseassociation]

She should have FOLLOWED the guidance of her academic advisor. None of this would happened.

[@smith4407]

Forget the letters just send the judge a bag full of money 💰 💰 💸

[@rustyshackelford3371]

A few Benjamins attached to each of those reference letters might sway my opinion.

[@kalinelli]

I'm proud of you for everything you are doing for others as a result of your experiences. You are amazing. Everyone makes mistakes but very few turn it around the way you have.

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Really appreciate your comment. Thank you.

[@helpyourcattodrive]

I love this guy. You are saving my life. All I do is whine. I’m a changed person bc of two videos from you and I listened/watched the entire Harvard lawyer Lee video w you as a guest. God, I need to heard you.

[@suzanneturner1382]

Thank you for not having music that drowns you out and and enunciating your words precisely! I also like that you are looking at the viewers direction. Half the time I don't know what the speaker is speaking to because it isn't the person who decided to check out their videos! If they have music drowning them out especially if continues with the same beat I am done! I have been following the case especially donate my time to reading Bad Blood written by John Carreyrou! I wish I could give him a high five! I really like your channel! After 11 hours on my feet I come home and find you and I allow you to tell me a story which you are so great at. I get to learn how other people think especially since you spent some time in jail, so I hope you are legit! Elizabeth I hope will see that she really hurt people and I feel she caused the death of Ian Gibbons driving him to the brink of insanity! This is sad. He was so full of experience I wish he would have tried harder to have seen his worth. Thank you so much for great information and your thoughts!

[@AndrewJordanBladesmith]

Homes is a sociopath/narcissist ! What do you expect ? She got her time in court , now she’s going to serve her time for her dilberate indiscretions .

[@DrSchor]

Justin, please give us your most valuable insights about Sunny. Thank you

[@mulemule]

*Corey Booker wrote her a character reference. 😳 Remember that when he resurrects his failed political ambitions.*

[@colico14]

How fitting that she supported crappy, corrupt corporate Democrats like Hillary Clinton, and now crappy, corrupt, corporate Dems like Booker are supporting her. I'm sure she gave him a campaign contribution or something and he feels like he owes her something-still I can't imagine how he could be that lacking in self-awareness as to write her, of all people, a character reference letter. Dumb.

[@lechenaultia5863]

What word do we have for someone who has no empathy?

[@jsoliz8847]

Selfish🤥

[@lss74]

Narc

[@brendaleelydon-carpenter1554]

What I find crazy is...I could understand Holmes herself writing the type of nonsense in these letters, but she ALSO managed to find MORE THAN ONE OTHER PERSON to write this kind of insanity, thinking it would actually HELP her!! 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️ They even signed their REAL NAMES on the letters! I absolutely canNOT with how her lawyers submitted these. Maybe Holmes was insistent, but...oof.

[@Emloh]

I just saw you on an episode of CUT!! Interesting perspective of the case.

[@cowsy99]

Character reference assumes the subject has character.

[@beaulieuc8910]

They are gaslighting letters, She was 12 years with Balwani, that is a a long time considering he was supposed to be horrible.

[@larkc7677]

This is good advice! Years ago, I wrote a character letter for a friend who was arrested for drunk driving. I realize now that I made some of the same mistakes noted here.

[@shaughnziech2193]

Wonder which voice she uses in prison

[@nsnopper]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@HiDesert004]

Whatever voice Big Bertha demands she uses 😂

[@garygagnon5057]

Not once has she ever owned up to what she has done, all she said was... "That she should have done things differently" and " She was dreaming to fast".

[@missshroom5512]

Well that’s exactly why she is a narcissist….her parents probably never said no. You see this parenting style can be disastrous

[@expresschecks1]

good report Justin - What a tragedy who lawyers allowed the letters to be submitted. So basic - How can her high powered lawyers not understand what "Character Reference" means - Definition: It informs the reader about the abilities, qualities, and characteristics of the person - provides a genuine and professional opinion about an individual’s personal attributes. Not rocket science.

[@razzledingle]

I'm ecstatic that her lawyers screwed up, she DESERVES the longest incarceration allowed under law!

[@oldgrayfox]

Excellent analysis. There are a lot of defense attorneys who probably don't even read the character reference letters prior to submission, much less help the client think through what to prepare.

[@jeanetteshawredden5643]

Narcissists can always get the ones they fool, to give character references.

[@lNoWayAroundItl]

7:56 I would feel her father would be proud of her because she followed in his scheming footsteps.

[@MAYK1NG]

This is a fantastic summery on the ‘problem with EH” That she would blame Balwani was just gross - in fact much of her actions have been manipulative and sociopathic.

[@elcordobes-i1h]

It is well nigh impossible to write an authentic character reference letter when the subject does not have a decent character. It is very hard to apologize when the person is not sincerely sorry. It is very hard to draw up plans when the person does not have any positive plans...and so on

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Sometimes the best thing to write is nothing. Her lawyers were paid to guide her.

[@lisamarielund6292]

Her plans are to mooch off of her rich “partners” parents as long as they will allow it. That young kid will be long gone before she’s out of prison and her mother will end up raising the two children that she selfishly thought would be her get out of jail free card. She’s not as smart as she thinks she is.

[@madmaddie4956]

I appreciate your candor and insight into your experiences and how it might be for others. It is a parallel world which is good to know about. Curious, did you have comparison or thoughts about the letters of character, etc, for the Martha Stewart case? I know they were very different crimes, but I heard good things like MS taught cooking in the prison and when she did come out she did seem a different person. Any insight? Thank you.

[@1business2690]

that 5 year estimate did not age well

[@fosbury68]

The reason all the "character references" avoided speaking to her character is simple. There is nothing good to be said about Elizabeth Holmes' character.

[@a2zme]

She was pretty much handed everything her entire life .. now, she's being handed a 12yr sentence .. don't feel an ounce of sympathy for her.. she would have just continued the Big Lie as long as she could. #lockHerUp

[@crochunter35]

I'm thinking that possibility she got pregnant - twice - because she knew that by the time she's released from prison she'll be nearly 50 years old and too old to have kids.

[@christophercripps7639]

I almost feel the old term "frenemy" come to mind when hearing the sentiment expressed therein. As for initial lack of experience, guess no one taught her "lying is wrong." From that lesson it shouldn't too hard to reach "lying to get other people's money" is criminal.

[@jhoughjr1]

Lying is not wrong to narcissists. Its how they manipulate people, which gets them what they want, which is all that matters to them.

[@stillhere1425]

“Elizabeth is sick about the suffering her reckless actions caused. She would prefer to take all the blame than pretend she was not an adult with reckless ambition. In the future, she hopes to (whatever) to help fix the problem.”

[@chava102]

I love how this almost turned into a rant for few minutes there. I feel like it put into perspective just how bad the letter are by basically putting on a "WTF IS THIS?!" moment but with a whole lot more professionalism.

[@juliacarl584]

My two sisters are sociopaths.... so this is so familiar.

[@custer2449]

How do lawyers make a living - litigation. They don't make money by bargaining or negotiating. If I was her lawyer, I'd've told her to fess up and take her medicine and get it over with. But no. She has decided to also destroy Billy Evans' life and her children's lives as well. She's a piece of work.

[@beaulieuc8910]

yes you are right. it is a mess

[@alicelong3613]

11 years isn’t long enough

[@albertbrooklyn]

Justin, your insight and observations are very valuable but here is the problem I have with Elizabeth Holmes blaming Sunny Balwani. She has shown herself to be a master manipulator and what speaks to that? She used her feminine guile to assemble a formidable board of luminaries, and yet we are to believe Balwani used/led her astray. That premise strains credulity to the point of absurdity. It is my contention she played Balwani like a cheap fiddle as she has done with ALL MEN her entire life. It's not that Holmes is character deficient but rather she is without character, and in my estimation is a sociopath. I heard her attorneys at sentencing ask the judge/the court, "who are the victims" let me list them: the investors, the patients that were treated with wildly erroneous medical information, and one of which suffered a heart attack. Her defense was trite, that is,..........the devil made me do it. No, no Ms. Holmes, if you want to identify the devil/culprit look in the mirror.

[@Chr15T]

I am curious to see if Balwani gets a tougher sentence than Holmes, simply because he is male. I would not be surprised - but disappointed - if Balwani, after all, spends more time in a worse prison than Holmes. After all, in trial she tried to direct attention and blame towards him. Although she was the CEO.

[@andreaslandgren1681]

How could her lawyers let the letters be turned in??

[@davidberrocal5191]

I Found your channel because of Elizabeth's sentence, and I have watched some of your other videos after that. I really like the way you communicate and tell your story and experiences. 👍

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Thank you. Another video coming today.

[@bazerkly907]

"Elizabeth Holmes is the Queen of the ME, ME, ME Generation !"