Theranos CEO Elizabeth Holmes: Firing Back At Doubters | Mad Money | CNBC

It's one of the most valuable Silicon Valley startups, and has come under fire recently. Jim Cramer’s exclusive to hear what she has to say about the accusations against the company.
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Theranos CEO Elizabeth Holmes: Firing Back At Doubters | Mad Money | CNBC

[@jimmyconway294]

First, they think you're crazy. Then, they fight you. Then, they indict you. Then, they find you guilty. Then, you go down in history as a disgrace.

[@AussieMoneyMan]

😂

[@wyswygsommer2769]

Yeah, how she said that made her more convincing in media. But they are right after all, she is crazy.

[@tturner0051]

Soooo, Donald Trump?

[@AgustinOrozcoArch]

Then, you get a big check for the movie rights

[@robertmitchell7357]

Then you go to jail!!!!! Fantatic!!!!

[@Lommy9999]

Way worse than lying to investors, is that she didn't mind people getting FALSE blood test results.

[@Lommy9999]

@Jam True

[@panosk3302]

She's a narcissist. Can't feel anything inside

[@TheDdm1234]

Maybe there is a conspiracy here with Big Pharma!

[@bipsomma2483]

I know !! She’s terrible and only wants to make money. Was anyone physically harmed at all ?

[@stargazeranemiac]

@@bipsomma2483 Um yeah people definitely might have been physically harmed due to getting false blood test where a disease they may have is not showing up. Something they could possibly need life fighting treatment for. That is disgusting and would definitely physically harm someone. Also, swindling people out of millions and millions of dollars???? Yeah, that wouldn’t cause physically stress on someone’s body to lose all that money or anything. Think about things before you write it.

[@marktwainlover]

Cramer: Yes or no. You prefer vanilla ice cream over chocolate. Holmes: We have been looking at the use of the cocoa bean and the vanilla bean in our proprietary studies, and even back in 2014 we discovered that....

[@millsykooksy4863]

lol

[@ferociousgumby]

A chemistry is performed on the cocoa bean, which generates a signal which is then directed to somebody's mouth.

[@SuzannaKiraly]

Lol. Yeah, he looks totally confused by her answers.

[@spooki6637]

sooo accurate hahahahaha

[@hayaglamazonluxe]

Lol 😂 do another one

[@kariminyamu7072]

Impressed how well she’s portrayed in the Hulu docu-series - the voice, the mannerisms are spot on

[@timoaksproductions]

no the voice was off

[@rillyjo5810]

i wanna know if that is her authentic voice here on kramer. sounds like a surfer dude

[@BBB-rd2qi]

@@rillyjo5810 - Her authentic voice is much higher then in this interview. There are interviews out there where her voice changes to a higher pitch for longer periods. Her employees said when she was drinking alcohol she lost the low voice altogether.

[@giggles7179]

@@BBB-rd2qi @Rilly Joe Indeed. In addition to wearing Steve Job's signature black turtlenecks, she apparently thought people would take her more seriously if she spoke in a lower register. One thing you have to admit: she did her homework when it came to keeping up appearances and perpetuating an image entirely of her own creation.

[@Galloway278]

Agreed! Amanda Seyfried does a great job!

[@joenoah9906]

She may not have finished college but she answers the questions like she graduated with a degree in BS

[@nulnoh219]

Not the Bachelor of Science kind of BS...

[@makemagamad3370]

Bullshyt

[@Wildstar40]

The perfect republican.

[@wha-whereyomamastayatvlad1642]

@@nulnoh219 those degrees are BS that's why it's called a BS lol

[@Arantxagl]

😂

[@emilkarpo]

Orange is going to be the new black for her

[@grandmastergyorogyoro532]

Savage 😂😂😂😹✌️

[@hannaalexa687]

Clay Gilliland oh clay, I’m home alone laughing my butt off due to ur comment 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@fricknibba4447]

Clay DID NOT hold back lmfaooo

[@idontwantone132]

@@fricknibba4447 LOL u go girl!

[@fricknibba4447]

Keith i have no clue why but that made me laugh for 10 mins straight

[@julissa6715]

He is asking her close ended questions and she is answering them in an open ended manner without ever answering the question itself. It's insane. She is so calm and collected, great manipulator.

[@SchuylerNoelle]

I had to watch this twice to realize she hadn’t answered any questions 😬😳😂😂

[@petet968]

Yep, Narcissists do it too. It's called the Word Salad technique.

[@SchuylerNoelle]

@@petet968 🤯 🤯 🤯

[@wlc2130]

She answered questions like a politician.

[@markb61]

WOW - you nailed it. Never answers the question directly and Cramer never follows up. He doesn't grill her. It's unbelievable how people can be so hoodwinked.

[@giantfatberg]

The most egregious crime was to bring 2 lives into existence just to to shield herself from prison.

[@TheEnprive]

So true!

[@zeuna]

That is one way to look at it (and the most popular). The other way to look at it is from the point of the following: "Well sh1t, I've invested my whole life into this, now it's all going down the toilet and my biological clock has been ticking. If I don't do something at this point, I'll be left with nothing and die alone most probably." It kinda makes sense, doesn't it?

[@ashwinireddy4297]

Really true !

[@elaineagvent5513]

I agree

[@user-dg6yd5mf5n]

@@TheEnprive unfortunately the 2 offspring are victims of her narcissistic choices.

[@onemanschorus12]

Holmes is wasting her natural talent. Instead of running this fraudulent company, she ought to be voicing a young Darth Vader in the next two Star Wars movies.

[@davidkamran7905]

+One Man's Chorus LOL ... LOL again .. ha ha .. that is truly hilarious .. i never comment .. just hear researching companies for a VC firm .. however, I have to admit - -- I can't pay any attention at all to this because of Lord Vadera's voice here ... what the #$#???!? Seriously - this is fricking hilarious ... It doesn't help that her company is as fraudulent as CNBC's ridiculous market coverage ..

[@mistersirisaacnewton]

+One Man's Chorus SAVAGE!!

[@PearlofRocketland]

+One Man's Chorus Good lord, I just laughed out loud. But seriously, I can't hardly believe how deep her voice is.

[@snitcher16]

Haha, I totally agree. Great comment!

[@CapCrunch45]

Psst...cue the Imperial March!

[@muradtalukdar4401]

First they think you're crazy, then they fight you, then they realise they were right that you are crazy.

[@MiamiPush2theLimit]

Murad Talukdar lol

[@LionheartedDan]

I think she is using the mental insanity defense.

[@quinnmorgendorffer8435]

👏🤭

[@millsykooksy4863]

🤣

[@lariwyman6273]

Lmaooooo 😂 🤣

[@robertfuentes9677]

She sounds like a 12 year old boy trying to sound 30

[@MatameVideos]

She sounds like I sounded when I was in high school and was the last boy to change his voice

[@eyepatchplease]

THAT'S what it is, THANK YOU

[@quillber]

lmao so true

[@muiscnight]

just by the voice alone how could no one see how crazy this bish was.

[@UltimateGenosyko]

She sounds like pre-T trans boy

[@waffentate2181]

first they think you're crazy. Then, they fight you. Then, you go to jail for 12 years

[@SuperAaron99]

I cant believe she never realized how laughable it is she tried to imitate the way Steve Jobs dressed. She couldn’t even invent her own style.

[@JosedeJezeus]

Yea... Lol

[@privateprivate6459]

Bc she is a follower not a leader

[@chikensaregood9500]

she had everybody fooled though she everyone else is dumb lol

[@Anderson-dx6wb]

@@chikensaregood9500 You can be dumb, but at the same time beeing good liar and manipulator

[@ricksorkin2522]

@@chikensaregood9500 your pic tells your iq single digit

[@sweetlikechocothai]

Her low voice is suppose to sound masculine and powerful? But she comes across as a stoner surfer with a cold. Am I wrong?

[@grandmastergyorogyoro532]

Bad case of cold

[@abdizzll]

Her voice sounded so fake, what 25 old woman sounds like that lol

[@Nikki30288]

You are not wrong 🤷she reminds me of a squirrel🐿️ dodging a car.🚘

[@sephorabernard]

Her professor’s when she was at Stanford and others have said that this isn’t her real voice.

[@neubrain11]

Lol that is perfect. Her voice sounds so stupid.

[@GRIFF22]

Her voice literally goes higher the longer the interview goes on 😂😂😂

[@lilsunflower9655]

Literally!!!!!

[@a.banana]

Hahaha!

[@Raison_d-etre]

@cassl14 There's no debate over her voice among people who see through her charade.

[@rachs6640]

Haha true! Towards the end she reverts to her normal voice.

[@caleb3175]

Dude I heard the same thing!!

[@veronica96itch]

I once worked for a boss like that. Oh boy, you have no idea what they're capable of. His deception works so well like hers, he really did fool everyone. Only people who have got burned by him know the truth. And throughout my line of careers, you won't be surprised by how common these fraud cases are. The whole world is filled with it. You just have to open your eyes big enough to see it.

[@rosemeadehart1904]

100%. So many con artists. Interesting that they made an example of her - given corrupt execs at places like Enron, Tyco, Leman Brothers... I hope it's a sign of the changing times but is it a coincidence that it was a prominent woman CEO or possible double standard?

[@fr7nkyph7llyj7ne5]

👀

[@anma3292]

She should be a politician. She is fully qualified with skill to tell the lie she does not even believes.

[@kartikvenkat5391]

Oohh are we looking at the next POTUS here? After she serves her time of course 😝

[@jaketen2001]

Then you have a baby and change you hair color and do a Colonel Klink.

[@j_g9724]

Actually, she pleaded not guilty. I do not think she thinks she’s lying. I think that she has twisted her mind to believe her fantasy

[@ps9287]

Her mother was a congressional staffer, father, an Enron executive and she herself had a life goal of becoming a billionaire from age 8. No wonder....

[@bluesky5384]

She would at least be a free criminal if she had followed your advice.

[@marieb5251]

"First they think you're crazy"...first impressions are often right.

[@MeiYingLim]

Haha

[@franci.f.]

Brilliant, I agree that first impression matters

[@bahmanvr581]

No they are not when they come out of the mouth of public.

[@death2denemy]

Lol..

[@chilliecheesecake]

@@bahmanvr581 Except the public didnt do anything to propagate her lmmfao.

[@bellamarley9455]

She never answers questions directly.

[@Pfflagg]

Yes, until the last question that seems to be loaded.

[@lovepet4565]

Bella Marley she shouldve done POLITICS

[@Deenique16]

@Zoe Kouf she coached herself she had it all figured out

[@goodgirlkay]

@@lovepet4565 She could have been the millennial generation's Killary.

[@lovepet4565]

BLACK ALIEN MUSINGS i love MADAM CLINTON

[@lowdownclub7728]

First they think your crazy then … you get 11 years in jail 😂

[@e13kid]

I’ll take 11 years in prison if I get to live as a billionaire for a while. Probably got coffins full of cash buried all over America.

[@blitzkreig4887]

@@e13kid Pretty sure its not worth it. The net worth is on paper.

[@saesang352]

@@e13kid she's gonna live in a jail with tennis courts, great food, and freedom within the facilities. She also gets to skip the toddler phase of her kids. and she'll still have millions when she gets out. Not bad at all.

[@endezeichengrimm]

@@e13kid You haven't thought this through.

[@e13kid]

@@blitzkreig4887 Yes, but the sale of stocks results in real world money.

[@Dilo22]

If she and Zucc had a staring contest, their dead eyed gazes would cause a rip in the fabric of space and time.

[@gushernandez25]

I got a good laugh out of that.

[@SquidSnuggles]

Lmfao! At the same time I feel like the two are made for each other. Zuck's wife seems rather normal.

[@Dilo22]

@@SquidSnuggles idk, do lizards mate for life?

[@SquidSnuggles]

@@Dilo22 If skinks count, then some do...? Valid point ha

[@Dilo22]

@@SquidSnuggles hello, Mr. zucc? Are you a soulless skink? Asking for a friend

[@Mrbfgray]

She turned out to be less of a Steve Jobs more a bad Apple.

[@grandmastergyorogyoro532]

Savage 😂😂😂😱

[@tariqalodat720]

On point.. Lool... On point!!!

[@MichelleSPodcast]

Lmao! Good one

[@johnkoziol5756]

Nicely put! For putting this so nicely you get a GREAT, BIG, HUMONGOUS "thumb's up" from me!!!

[@carlingnugent]

HEYYYOO!

[@itsdazzlebtch]

Her answers literally sound like when you're trying to meet the word minimum on an essay for class

[@simonteale4861]

She missed her calling, probably could have been the first US female President at 40. It's outstanding what over confidence, narcissism, inherent dishonesty and a sociopathic disregard for others can achieve.

[@zarasbazaar]

She talks in word salad. She sounds like she's saying something, but it's really gibberish.

[@Joel-ee4yh]

Idk how ppl call her a master manipulator..... This interview didn't convince me that she was any good at all

[@THEGRANDTOUR-kt3jh]

@@Joel-ee4yh dude idk why she thought she could apply the fake it till u make it doesnt apply when u screw around with the health of ppl which determines if they live or die gosh

[@marufio]

She has been repeating herself saying the same things since the beginning like a recording machine

[@janetownley]

@@Joel-ee4yh Well, it’s easier to say that now that she’s been exposed and disgraced

[@connorkearley7381]

nope almost

[@jhooie]

Cramer: Elizabeth, does your system work? Elizabeth: I love lamp.

[@prometheus5700]

"First they say you're crazy, then they fight you, and then you go to jail for running a bunco scheme"

[@mortonkowalski8714]

Outstanding!

[@AlexeiRamotar]

No jail time at all. Big fraud hardy gets anyone in prison.

[@mortonkowalski8714]

Alexei Ramotar I don't think it's over yet for her, not that her 'elite' status won't keep her in a bubble.

[@prometheus5700]

Every time I watch this, she always says the same thing. She's possessed.

[@picozzimichele]

back here a year later... nicely called :D

[@leesawyer4272]

It took some balls for her to do this interview, especially in that deep voice.

[@matthewdsouza8891]

Not really, it was a softball interview.

[@misterwallace3479]

@@matthewdsouza8891 over your head? It was the nads reference.

[@tonelocrian]

She's better suited as a politician, since she won't answer simple YES or NO questions

[@kirannagpal1331]

She will create a fake country too

[@Mario_N64]

She would have done well at politics. She might be a senator by now if she had gone that route.

[@stevetorres1983]

She was backed by many politicians

[@gokulvshetty]

she is worse than Crooked Hillary

[@brikshoe6259]

Nailed it.

[@Smellslikegelfling]

Her odd, short, speech pattern is because she doesn't have the lung capacity to maintain that fake low voice for very long. She stops every few words to take a breath.

[@94462]

Like Darth Vadar

[@fizwizzle1989]

It’s all about moderation, gotta have that balance between the depth of the fake voice and the interval length.

[@AlexaBellaMuerte]

Ahhhh that makes so much sense

[@TheNatia007]

SkeksisRule that’s what i thought

[@dudewholikesfood6769]

She also wears a black turtle neck to immitate steve jobs..weirdo

[@stevend.bennett427]

Such a great example for an investor. She sounded good, looked good, defended herself and company well, and lied through her teeth about everything. Who can you trust? Results.

[@VictoriaWonders]

she lied because she believed her company would do better

[@VictoriaWonders]

she worked around it

[@AAron-gr3jk]

Maybe she can become a politician when she gets out of jail. should be a few going in soon

[@ZnenTitan]

Nothing like the bottom line is there?

[@Joel-ee4yh]

Looked good? R u for real? 😂😂

[@josefortyfive214]

This aged well.

[@falakoala4579]

In retrospect I think that’s a man 😅

[@Drakhulis]

that was so wild to watch after everything happened the way it did

[@misterwallace3479]

@@falakoala4579 a larger than normal clitoris.

[@jeffhalmos7981]

This what fraud looks like.

[@potato-whiz]

This is what a psychopath looks like. She's very strange. That weird voice she puts on is part of a delusional, carefully crafted persona.

[@johnc1191]

How could you keep up such a voice over time. I'll look at her other videos.

[@redin575]

And sounds like

[@Mrluke413]

You were right!

[@foljs5858]

So, completely like a legitimate CEO? Because all kinds of non-fraud use the same BS talking points and and terms...

[@schrodingerdiscovery]

Few years ago I interviewed at Theranos for a job. On the day of the interview, I wasn't feeling well due to headache and fever, and my interview was so terrible that I got rejected within hours. I am so thankful for getting rejected.

[@Daniel9-2]

Hahahahaha you got rejected 🙅‍♀️

[@Latin-J]

Your ethics and morals weren’t low enough to fit into their corporate culture.

[@pippipster6767]

It was mainly your CV.

[@vincentwaterson3480]

@@Daniel9-2 you laugh because you’ve never been in one lmao

[@calaragazza3556]

Blessing in disguise

[@atticusfredericks6210]

That deep voice may come in handy in women's federal prison.

[@thlee3]

Atticus Fredericks she’s not going to prison

[@nikitaglushkov8473]

@@thlee3 The trial will take place in 2021.

[@Ergeniz]

@@nikitaglushkov8473 She's not going to prison.

[@robertbelyea5767]

Of course she's going to prison. She's simply not that rich.

[@blackboxbs8642]

@@robertbelyea5767 shes a woman

[@countalucard4226]

Amanda Seyfried really nailed her character. She got all her speaking mannerisms down pat.

[@carlrs15]

Her voice sounds like the voice Mulan tried to use to pass herself off as a man when she joined the army in her father's place

[@caib714]

Indeed. She's the Silicon Valley version of Mulan selling drugs as dietary supplements.

[@pingwang7602]

you know the Chinese story of Mulan😸

[@oceanicmermaid]

Carl Scruggs 😂🙄😂😂

[@marcusizayah]

She sounds like a 13 year old boy trying to sound like his dad calling the school to tell them his “son” isn’t gonna be at school today lolol

[@alwildaalfrieda5342]

At first I thougth she was a trans because of the voice

[@Anita-rt4hi]

😂😂😂😂

[@tfh5575]

😭😭

[@karnliberated]

🤣

[@frankdux3605]

This comment should have 10x the likes 👍👍👍

[@dudev]

She worships Steve Jobs, dresses like Steve Jobs, decorated her office like Steve Job's office, and has her security team call her "Eagle 1." So many red flags that investors ignored.

[@commonsensedatcom]

no investors must have thought that was a good thing considering that she imitated steve jobs, they definitely didnt delve deep into the company to find any red flags.

[@dudev]

commonsensedatcom --- Several of her own employees saw red flags. Her head scientist, a man named Gibbons, voiced concerns many times and was so stressed out from the pressure that he committed suicide. That in itself is a red flag.

[@dudev]

president camacho -- His wife described it a little differently. The various articles also tell of Gibbons' doubts that he voiced to the company. He was a scientist, so I think he was more concerned about his reputation being destroyed. Corporate executives always seem able to get another job, no matter how badly they behave, but a scientist's entire career can be destroyed by falsifying data

[@issustaita]

And her doctor ignored

[@WheelsRCool]

Wonder why he falsified the data in the first place...? If I was hired by a company and found that the technology was a lie, I'd have been out of there.

[@mattk1438]

She is the quintessential sociopath.

[@Twotter54]

Funny watching this video years later knowing her whole company was actually bogus and is now being criminally charged for fraud.

[@stupidas9466]

@Elon Fusk no, PRESUMED innocent IN A COURT OF LAW…in real life, in normal language, a person who does something bad/wrong/terrible is guilty of doing it the moment they do it. If i hit my wife upside the head on January 1st, then she calls the police, i get taken in, interviews are conducted, i get out on bail, legal filings are done, pretrial hearings are completed, and a court date for November 30th is set, and a week before the trial is finally about to start DOESN'T MEAN I WASN'T GUILTY OF HITTING MY WIFE UPSIDE THE HEAD BACK IN JANUARY!!! I was guilty then, and still guilty in Feb,Mar,Apr…

[@yellowhammer685]

It's like seeing OJ in The Naked Gun!

[@simmer484]

Jesus are they filming on the fucking Titanic? Keep the damn camera still for 5 seconds ffs

[@mikakorhonen5715]

They had to, because Theranos were sinking so fast in deep sh*t.

[@RCosenza20]

haha this is my favorite comment on youtube

[@luckyman9903]

Didn’t notice until you said something ://

[@danopticon]

Her dad was an Enron executive, so … it runs in the family.

[@hafsa7951]

I was listening to a podcast of about her and apparently her family is a descendent of one of the richest family in America who's wealth dwindled over time. Her dad apparently used to have a sense of entitlements and this whole 'paradise lost thing'. Even Elizabeth herself would say that she wanted to become a millionare when asked what she wanted to be when she was young. So it's safe to say that the whole family is a bunch of greedy pigs who'd go to treat lengths to get money.

[@jamesprivet]

Tru dat!

[@weltonvillegal6258]

M Bailey - Inbreeding.

[@bq-9238]

oops!

[@potmki6601]

Sociopaths usually created up upbringing. Scary thing is our current system is rewarding for sociopaths

[@mooreel]

First, they think you're crazy. Then, they fight you. Then, they indict you. Then, they find you guilty., then you go to prison for 11 years

[@illyam689]

unfortunately 9 years

[@k.chriscaldwell4141]

_"First they think you're a liar. Then they believe you a fraud. Then all of sudden they're sure you're a psychopath."_

[@ahabduennschitz7670]

-Sun Tzu, The Art of Fraud

[@tamzinyim]

too funny🤣

[@CM-xy7uk]

her voice was extremely deep at the beginning of the interview and got more normal towards the end of the interview

[@johnmac91]

Yes, the deep voice was a phony affectation. According to colleagues, they first discovered this when she got a little tipsy at a cocktail party and inadvertently started speaking using her real voice.

[@ivandee2632]

So true. Just slide in between beginning and end lol

[@mulemule]

Sustained pathological deceit's exhausting.

[@solidcoder3423]

@@mulemule for sure, I mean she couldn't even do it for 5 minutes so it must be exhausting

[@ariellalavi]

Right? Her voice sounds fake

[@danielmcgovern5986]

She sounds like her voice was disguised to protect her identity.

[@champ8605]

Elizabeth can you stop using a voice changer. Sorry I can't, it's my real fake voice.

[@ohwell9481]

LMAOOOOO

[@jcampbell461]

😂🤣😂 this comment is legendary

[@diegobarrios6890]

Here after watching the Dropout, Amanda killed it.

[@khadyuthazarika5975]

I need that level of confidence in my life

[@revelations2798]

Not really

[@OpiumBride]

And also the crazy eyes...dont forget the soulless crazy eyes

[@eeronat]

Why, you have a need to deceive large number of people?

[@janetownley]

Well, not if you’re going to use it for evil

[@lj9802]

that's called being a pathological liar, that is not a good quality for anyone to have

[@DanielLy1200]

Fyre Festival of biotech!

[@lindaatamian1092]

Very well put!

[@annegachanja5467]

💯

[@crazyxtagen]

Which is far more deadly than a failed music fest 😬

[@soccerfp]

this is far worse

[@williamballz4462]

Ja Rule jr.

[@GozerTheGozerian]

One of the reasons Holmes got away with this fraud for as long as she did was because the media loved the story of “strong, brilliant woman disrupts male-dominated industry.” They _wanted_ Holmes to be what she claimed. They were cheerleaders.

[@hurtfeelings9217]

Very true.

[@CesarJoel94]

And also they are stupid and know nothing about medical sciences

[@elliegray820]

girlboss

[@jonathaneriksson9273]

@@GossAug Where can i read about this? Sorry for asking 6 months after.

[@rjberry]

To be fair it was the media that took her down in the end. She'd managed to con scientists, soldiers, politicians of all stripes, venture capitalists, the government, etc

[@119Agent]

These interviews are gold. I can't tell if she actually believes her product will work some day.

[@godthelux90]

She does. It's almost certain that she did all she could for her project to work. It's just that she wasn't a genius like her idol Steve Jobs, unfortunately.

[@omega25137]

She does, she was interviewed a while ago and she said if theranos wasnt exposed and had more time her machine would work

[@119Agent]

@@omega25137 so she is delusional and not just a scam artist.

[@Hifive91]

There were companies who spinned off her idea and are making something similar to her machine. Not her complete vision, but definitely something inspired by her ideas. Maybe she would of never realized her dream, but perhaps she could of produced something good

[@gratefulbread-_-9792]

it might have if she had done any of the work herself, her job was to hire fire bully manipulate and financially threaten her employees into building her fake “genius” machine. she had one good idea as a college sophomore and called herself steve f***ing jobs

[@christinelago6762]

She’s so good in using words that she’s answering in words that make sense but doesn’t directly address the question.

[@MattCurrieImprov]

Throw in proprietary and you're good.

[@kennethsouthard6042]

True but it works on all these people that supposedly are taking her to task. For example, not once did Cramer here challenge her on one of her non answers.

[@devcev9509]

People who that use phrases like "people who that" aren't eloquent

[@connorkearley7381]

miscommunication

[@annasanta9103]

my colleagues do that bla bla bla bla thing like Elizabeth and we all go like " SO? What's your point" .Listening to people talk like that gives me headache.

[@flt528]

First they think you're crazy, then they fight you, then they prove you're a con artist, then they send you to prison.

[@janetownley]

Then they try to get Likes in KZbin comments about you

[@SerlingPictures]

@@janetownley so, Patty, you're actually saying that the above commenters words are salacious and you're actually defending Elizabeth Holmes? Everything stated is factual. Gonna need some clarity here.

[@lilsamantha1]

She is being railroaded by silicon valley and the pharmaceuticals

[@dannylukic6536]

She really is persuasive. If I didn't know for a fact she was lying here, I'd actually have believed her.

[@davidprice7162]

Well, if you’re a total dummy like Jim Cramer, who doesn’t know when someone is using a bunch of fancy words to saying nothing at all, then yeah, she is persuasive

[@imperiallegionnaire6943]

@@davidprice7162 In fairness he was side-eying during plenty of the interview

[@trawlins396]

@@davidprice7162 She's a classic b.s'er. *You can't bullsh*t a bullsh*ttter*

[@inmyexpression19]

I heard her. She did not, not say random words. She either lied or just stated the truth. He asked her why didn't she join them 5 months ago for a meeting. She said because they already investigated and checked her technology and everything was fine. Sure she avoided answering the question as to why she refused which personally she doesn't have to go! Maybe she doesn't know how to say that. She even asked them if they wanted to see everything for themselves and they told her no this just needs to get out in the public. So all I see is that she was brought down by public opinion and conformity so far. They're trying to do the same with Zuckerberg. Bully soft looking people out their business and takeover! As far as her actual technology and what specifically was so wrong they have yet to get into detail for their sudden curiousity. I'm fact it nearly appears they're just making up random stuff and got lucky because she turned out to be a liar. Still don't know exactly what she did specifically that was against the law.

[@inmyexpression19]

I would hope we don't see her technology floating around in someone else's business soon.

[@alethiometerist8344]

When I watched interviews with her before even knowing she was a scammer, I immediately noticed how she doesn't ever answer any questions. To me it was so annoying as hell and I could see clearly that she is just bullshitting. She got what she deserved! Jail

[@stompieandsuzie]

She's having babies to stay out of jail

[@robertseward7690]

@@stompieandsuzie She is in prison in Bryan Texas right now.

[@catking396]

She didn’t fully answer any of his questions. She just talked circles around them.

[@gorgolyt]

Actually she did answer several of the questions. It's just that her answers were total lies. Claiming that they sent the WSJ detailed responses and documentation -- they sent nothing. Claiming that the WSJ sources complained that their quotes were wrong -- just a lie. Claiming that they offered to demonstrate the technology to the WSJ -- they didn't. Claiming that Walgreens and others had seen the technology working -- this never happened.

[@MorbiusBlueBalls]

petersoned her way out of all accusations

[@4tops]

The host thinks by rolling up his sleeves and browsing through documents makes him look smart and thorough. He is as big a fraud as his guest.

[@grandmastergyorogyoro532]

Lol good laugh I get so apt your comment is

[@wnd9434]

I dont know that. What did he do?

[@grandmastergyorogyoro532]

@Jumpy Cat Savage bruh 😂😂😂

[@bigdredwick1381]

Hmmm. How is he a fraud by asking questions? What is he fraudulently doing here?

[@ryank3281]

I knew the host from Ironman where he break a mug lol

[@rasalghul9331]

I really wished Cramer would have asked "what the hell is going on with your voice?"

[@greenjupiter]

🤣 🤣 🤣

[@MaureenLindgren]

Literally lol.

[@OpiumBride]

And also the crazy eyes...dont forget the soulless crazy eyes

[@pepito9112]

“Final question why does your voice sound like you’re pinching a fart?”

[@Lousy_Bastard]

Cramer is another shill.

[@rose080891]

One of the worst parts of this is that she diverted investors from real research that could have helped a lot of people.

[@meadors2009]

I don't know what annoys me more... the fact that she forcibly dropped her vocal register as part of her con image or the fact she actually got this airtime.

[@ronaldwashington5715]

I SCREAMED AT THIS COMMENT 🤣❤

[@t8tertotsp]

km

[@DrPhil-kx3ci]

She went to school with my son. She has always had a quote on quote “dude voice”

[@Porschedoctor1]

Jim is a joke. There a SJIM (Short Jim) ETF that is very profitable by shorting all of Jim’s stock recommendations.

[@whodywei]

Theranos is like the Church of Scientology in lab testing.

[@Area-lr1mz]

😂😂😂

[@kjsciacca]

Dude! You called it

[@fizzybubblech2128]

No. Just the church perhaps if you really want to go there

[@MostInterestingManInTheWrld]

Elizabeth, please tell the truth, sir.

[@padeosarran]

lol

[@barnaliadhikary9421]

Why do you think she is not telling the truth ma'm?

[@pkop4]

@Purple Jigsaw Pheonix - because she wasn't www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2018-41

[@darkspd31]

The Most Interesting Man in the World ROASTED 🔥 🔥 🔥

[@zeljkom.svedruzic8406]

she thinks she is telling the truth. She is so uneducated, stupid and arrogant she is just not capable to comprehend the stupidity of her actions.

[@itsjustmeflo8684]

The way she answers questions without really answering them may be quite impressive. She knew that if she mastered being able to do that, that she’d be able to manipulate, and scam folks into believing the BS she was spewing.

[@redlikewineagain697]

You know who answered questions in the same manner? Bill Clinton. Both are master manipulators.

[@lorncampbell4943]

Love it. Holmes hides her non answer in a cloud of distracting mumbo jumbo. You can see Cramer's eyes dim as she drones on.

[@jamesprivet]

Yes. LOL😄

[@sak079]

And yet cramer bought it hook, line and sinker. He never pushed her on answers and let her off easy. Cramer is a villain and enabled this fraud. He is a joke

[@michaelciviello1226]

@@sak079 That dim look in Cramer's eyes is his natural state.

[@missdee4927]

@@michaelciviello1226 You think she purposely went on this show immediately when the article dropped because she knew he would not press her?

[@monkmchorning]

@@missdee4927 possibly.

[@michaelp8850]

She answers questions like a politician....manipulates the answers and skews the question. Basically no straight answers!

[@michaelp8850]

+Someb0dee true...true..😉

[@ElectricityTaster]

Meanwhile, at Amazon, the CEO answers a phone call with "my name is jeff".

[@GryphonHall]

This interview didn't age well, did it?

[@williamhill1984]

Lol

[@fyt54321]

@Russ Gallagher He is indeed. Just a schlockmeister market cheerleader most of the time. Thinks he's a genius when he's no different than thousands of others.

[@williamberger4863]

Love Cramer’s last word, “Excellent…” wonder how many hundreds of thousands if not million of dollars people lost after he gave that blessing, just as he later did with FTX. He’s right, it is Mad Money.

[@johnclark8631]

I don’t think they ever went public but people actually follow Cramer so I’m sure people have lost billions listening to him over the years n

[@LaurentCardinal]

I'm not defending Cramer, but his demeanor during the whole interview shows he knew this was pure BS

[@MrAadityaParanjape]

No direct answer to any of the direct questions. Any true journalist would have ripped her to shreds

[@rkd80]

Got here after reading Bad Blood. In the book there are tons of references to her charisma and voice, crazy to see it in the flesh. Highly recommend the book by the way.

[@shaunmichaelchase]

I think people say she is charismatic to justify a complete and utter lack of due diligence when they have their investments zeroed out.

[@sandrapatterson2916]

Arkady K. @Arkady K. I am halfway through the book 'Bad Blood'. Elizabeth Holmes is described as charismatic, mesmerizing, but actually she's a wolf in sheep's clothing. She manipulated investors into believing her system was a resounding success by masking glitches (during product demos) with fake results. She couldn't even give a cogent explanation as to how the system...HER system, actually works. I'm glad her company was finally exposed as the sham that it was. Bad Blood is a great read! I'm sure there'll be a movie. Can't wait.

[@NeoHellPoet]

@@sandrapatterson2916 www.imdb.com/title/tt5795144/ They seem to have already cast Jennifer Lawrence as Elizabeth Holmes

[@NookiePeache]

@@shaunmichaelchase 👍👍👍👍👏👏

[@sandrapatterson2916]

NeoHellPoet Yes. I found that there will be a movie. Also, HBO has a documentary on Elizabeth Holmes. Suddenly she's everywhere.

[@happyuk06]

She has the same dead-eyed look as Mark Zuckerberg.

[@吴艺诚-i8p]

True!

[@nerdofgod4167]

You caught it too!😄

[@jr3474]

I think they both are DNA related..

[@decespugliatorenucleare3780]

And she struggled too to not close them horizontally

[@cracksdhead]

They're lizard robots.

[@bishakhachakraborty6765]

She absolutely dodged the question about how many tests being done on theranos patent device

[@markschulze7841]

She eventually started talking about nanotainers..😳

[@lpr5269]

@@markschulze7841 I'm working on Picotainers myself. They're even smaller. And then eventually Yottatainers. 😅

[@AndyNgo]

Notice how her voice changes quite a bit throughout the interview.

[@annewinter6348]

Love ya Andy!! I follow all your work :)

[@s.m.whiteII]

The key of her voice correlated directly with Cramer’s level of scrutiny. Starts low and contributes to rise like a tea kettle as the heat is increased. I needed a good laugh today

[@jamesprivet]

Exactly

[@pete6705]

“Those are not very fruitful conversations in the context of engagement” -Elizabeth Holmes on responding to allegations that her company is a scam

[@setheheart4911]

Someone told her to speak in a low tone to sound more masculine. It's very apparent.

[@danwroy]

That's how she always talks

[@GrantValdes]

...then she told herself to speak in a low tone to sound more masculine. It's as unnatural as Michael Jackson's falsetto speaking voice.

[@photonicengineer3680]

Shes been rehearsing a lot in that masculine voice.

[@skimshady510]

It's not an unusual strategy in terms of creating a public image. Especially for women in areas that are male-dominated - such as leadership roles in Silicon Valley - it can be valuable to rehearse a masculine image.

[@laylaaissaoui-hester7638]

Some of us just have a deep voice. Deal with it.

[@kooshi1333]

first they think you are crazy, then they fight you ..... then you go to jail for fraud

[@janetllaverias5511]

Is disgusting to see how people play with peoples lives for money.

[@chikensaregood9500]

and huge disrespect to people who are actually trying to change the world and have trouble getting noticed

[@jayvorheee7042]

Well ppl gave her the money to do it without researching any part themselves

[@davonbenson179]

@@jayvorheee7042. So I guess you never made a mistake before. SMH!

[@maxwellchen5952]

this aged like fine wine

[@MargaretPing]

6:08 real voice: "starting in 2015 we announced" 1:23 fake voice: "It's great to be here, thank you." Wow

[@pilotcb2]

She does have a deep voice but she exaggerates it

[@razeenmeyer9728]

@@pilotcb2 Chris, sit down.

[@lancelotkillz]

This contrast comment you posted is perfect 👌

[@RS-jb1lf]

Great post, you got the time stamps on point

[@ignitionSoldier]

She is in some exceptionally deep shit.

[@aluisious]

Good. Unicorn culture is bad enough, it's even worse when these dipshits think they can do whatever they like in heavily regulated industries with life-changing outcomes.

[@jaywunder13242]

I imagine she's got some of that money stashed somewhere. A little golden parachute for herself.

[@williamryan7403]

You can count on that. That how grifters work.

[@GBooth]

Sure enough: www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-files-criminal-charges-against-theranoss-elizabeth-holmes-ramesh-balwani-1529096005

[@bestelectronicmusicfromnew5189]

She most blatently lied when she started talking about venus straws being used instead of siemens machines for the tests.

[@kaaygoldmine]

I wonder if Jennifer Lawrence is gonna try to do this voice when she plays Elizabeth in the movie

[@xmuta]

They are probably going to use James Earl Jones' voice.

[@sageadvice157]

You need to stop lol haha

[@jameswoolery5060]

Mira Sorvino can do it best

[@andrewpianojunkie]

+James Woolery (Puppet Zombie) Agree

[@xmuta]

+James Woolery (Puppet Zombie) I still say James Earl Jones would be better.

[@jessejordan8116]

Real voice leaks through 6:08 “starting in 2015 we announced"

[@bobbym3155]

Jesse Jordan I noticed that too. You can hear her readjust. Crazy...

[@sophon238]

@@bobbym3155 it's all about optics

[@ReddyReader]

Wow! Voice is clearly not the deep attempt Fail!

[@gordons-alive4940]

How crazy do you have to be to attempt something like that? I'm just going to completely alter my voice with all these people around who know what I really sound like and keep that up every day for the rest of my life. Goddamn. And look how far she got with that con.

[@siaahmadi413]

Contrast 1:23

[@veronicaalmeda8014]

She answers in what is called "circular speech" or "circular conversation", it's a method narcissists use to confuse people and deflect attention from the main point when they are being challenged, they say a bunch of things that mean absolutely nothing and have no actual conclusion, they can also repeat themselves by using synonyms, so in one phrase they may be saying the same thing three times but using different words so it looks like what they are saying is the truth and also sometimes to make their speeches longer to tire you. They make themselves a performer. Narcissists can be very mentally exhausting for that very reason. The main problem I see in this interview is that the interviewer is not asking based on her answers, so he isn't pressing her or putting her on the spot, he is asking her questions that were already thought and written prior to the conversation.

[@hagel4742]

Good to know, thank you.

[@Jordan-Ramses]

People who are telling the truth don't ramble on about a bunch of nonsense. She convinces some people but she just sounds like a liar to me.

[@LTilli313]

I agree and I think people can get away with fraud when they have some sort of story like that, similar thing happening with the BLM movement, they are not proving that all the money they made from george floyd actually went back in to help black community. And it's really sad that people will use something like that to lie and take advantage bc then when there is another movement to help minorities, or another woman inventor/ceo who wants to really change things and do it the right way, people will doubt them. I think Elizabeth holmes biggest mistake was dropping out of Stanford and then wanting to rush and get rich - she thought she could take a shortcut. Maybe in other industries it's possible to do that, but not in science. she prob would have learned that much more had she graduated, maybe gotten an MD or something, and she could've actually given something legitimate back to the world and still been successful! There is no doubt she is a driven and intelligent person, but she got in too deep and started lying and took people's money. And now all she will ever be known for is the fraud.

[@faithie911]

Jen Psaki does this too. Thank you for explaining it perfectly.

[@memyself717]

It's called begging the question. For instance: "why is everyone buying X?" "Because it's this season's must-have"

[@soppiestwang]

Kate Mckinnon would play her really well on snl

[@wha-whereyomamastayatvlad1642]

I've been infatuated this person since I heard about her originally when no one knew she was a con. Her story is so very interesting how she procured billions on a pure concept. The Hulu shows depicts this so well

[@madmaxmedia]

Cramer: Tell me straight out, yes or no? Holmes: So what had happened was...

[@redin575]

Well, to be fair Cramer isn't much of an investigative journalist.

[@DanielCardin_ATX]

Cramer ate it up, too!

[@hybridflu6-810]

I'm watching the show on Hulu. She's a great liar. The employees that lied with her deserved to be punished too.

[@bepopxxx]

the employees doesnt have an option, they need to follow her, otherwise they will get sued.

[@meganmcdonald5229]

@@bepopxxx True, the employees were put in a horrible situation.

[@absolutelypitiful3837]

The show shows a very romanticized version of what happened that cast Elizabeth in a much too sympathetic light. Read the book from the author of that Wall Street article. In reality, she was considerably more cold, dishonest and calculating than in the show.

[@GizmoMaltese]

@@absolutelypitiful3837 I thought she was pretty cold and dishonest in the show. The only sympathetic aspect is that of a girl in over her head and digging herself in deeper. But she clearly used Sunny for his money to keep her scam going. Why would Sunny invest in what he knew to be a scam? He didn't understand anything about biotech. I feel sorry for Sunny. He was already rich and he let himself get seduced by this con artist and had his life totally destroyed. Again, he didn't know anything about biotech so he probably believed Elizabeths claim that they would eventually be able to run all the tests. He was just trying to buy time and keep the company afloat until then.

[@absolutelypitiful3837]

@@GizmoMaltese you obviously didn't read the book by John Carreyrou. Sunny was the biggest sociopath out of the two, a tyrant and a control freak.

[@mangzz1]

In an overall softball interview, Cramer asked her two direct questions: @5:40 and @7:00, both non-answered with deflection, obfuscation, divergence, basically your fraud playbook

[@jonathanpruitt7393]

The only type of interview he knows

[@missdee4927]

@@jonathanpruitt7393 That's why she did it with him of all people the day the article drops. Calculated.

[@kennethlee4894]

Exactly. She wasn't stupid.@@missdee4927

[@gilbesm1]

Her voice is how you would ask 'who it is' at the door in a rough neighborhood

[@Lorna-bq4ke]

😂

[@mybocks3]

Her voice at 1:42 *How it started* Her voice at 8:50 *How it's going*

[@Tina-wm1rp]

I was looking for this comment. Also check at 6:21

[@brandondaniel6955]

her voice changes throughout this whole video lol

[@ManInTheBigHat]

She catches herself and brings it back down at times.

[@nishantahvan]

Never trust person who is wearing black turtle neck shirt and don't blink.

[@marlenesalinas4725]

😂😂😂😂

[@chiefbrody2173]

What a bizarre person she is.

[@elisashade8330]

I’ve never seen this show but what the hell is up with him rustling through a million papers in this interview? Is he doing it to look prepared or did he really scribble all of his notes on 10 pieces of paper he has to read through when she’s speaking.

[@goodgirlkay]

It's part of his gimmick. He's just as much of a con as Elizabeth Holmes.

[@vetiverose128]

@@goodgirlkay lol

[@derinaries]

Everything about him is exaggerated.

[@MattCurrieImprov]

It's called Mad money

[@pipsqueak87]

I consider myself to be not too dumb but I have no goddamn idea what she's saying in any of her responses... Always find it suspicious when someone cloaks their explanations in industry lingo and terminology. You should be able to explain and answer so that non-industry people can understand. Instead I only have more questions. And you can see it on the host's face multiple time when glances out the side of his eyes... he is like "WTF?"

[@carlrs15]

also - beware of people who try to deliberately obfuscate the larger points by repeatedly nitpicking the minutiae of their dealings, as she's doing here

[@emintey]

I do understand all this but there is a bottom line here, all lab testing methodology must be approved and thoroughly documented by the FDA, the criteria is objective, in other words results have to be accurate and repeatable and proven to be so. Once that is established they can market their tests, that has not been done on Theranos propietary tests except for one tests out of hundreds. If Theranos has been reporting out test results for tests that have not been FDA approved that's the equivalent of a drug company marketing a prescription drug that has not received FDA approval, it's unheard of and illegal.

[@MrTechselect]

When asked to explain the "product".She put it this way. "a chemistry is performed so that a chemical reaction occurs and generates a signal from the chemical interaction with the sample, which is translated into a result, which is then reviewed by certified laboratory personnel.” You could literally apply that same description to any chemical reaction. This woman is floundering and deflecting the questions. She says that they've sent their results to the FDA and yet it is specifically mentioned in their site "This technology has not been cleared or approved by the FDA". She goes on to say that they've submitted their nanotainers to the FDA for clearance. Their nanotainers are not the ones the FDA wants to test. Its their Edison "product". Their nanotainers are just containers for blood so of course they'll pass. The then use that boast that they have "FDA approval" even though only a small part of their system is approved and not the actual tester even. This chick has gone on in a "fake it till you make it" deal for far too long. There is no product here.

[@AuGold808]

well said.

[@pkop4]

she was lying through her teeth www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2018-41

[@MDM-bm8lc]

Lest we forget: she is the daughter of an Enron exec.

[@misterg4059]

Really WOW

[@joevignolor4u949]

@@misterg4059 Yup. The apple didn't fall far from the tree.

[@marcosffontes]

Genetics matter

[@Nita1218]

Every word she says just infuriated me. She’s literally a looking glass into the fraud of capitalism

[@webstercat]

Making daddy proud.

[@greg_nicholls]

First they think you're crazy then find out you are crazy and then jail you

[@SnuggeryBuggery]

Didn't her company just admit their technology doesn't work and all the tests they did were wrong?

[@johngury]

Big time. Two years worth of bad tests and a liability class action bonanza.

[@prometheus5700]

Ugh. It's all about race. Weird you didn't use the sexist card too, foo.

[@N0rthT]

***** Are you Oriental?

[@N0rthT]

Morton Kowalski Are you thin skinned? I'm sorry. I had no idea how insanely sensitive you are. I'll try to offer trigger warnings for you next time I say something truthful. I'm sure your life is very difficult.

[@prometheus5700]

***** lol. seriously

[@user-wo4nu6pl5w]

That's the oddest voice ever. And she has crazy eyes.

[@pigknickers]

She looks bonkers - mad eyes.... agreed

[@redin575]

You ever see a pic of Nitwit Gingrich's wife Calista? Same thing.

[@socksumi]

I'm thinking of the "Heavens Gate" dude.

[@TheBunny04]

haha yes, the dead eyes. I've seen a few people with those, it's just weird and creepy.

[@rockyp3917]

That's one scary woman.