Eloise and Theo - Bridgerton Gets Therapized

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Eloise and Theo - Bridgerton Gets Therapized //
Star crossed lovers from separate worlds is a tale as old as time, and yet "Bridgerton" breathes new life into it, largely because Eloise is the best character. Eloise is the oft overlooked sister of the "Bridgerton" clan. Watch as I dive into the relationship of Eloise and Theo.
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00:00 Eloise and Theo
01:45 Bridgerton clip
03:35 Penelope
04:30 Can the two worlds collide?
06:23 Eloises mind
08:00 Lady Whistledown
12:20 Others expectations
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• Eloise and Theo - Brid...

[@Shenanakins]

NOTHING in this entire show is more romantic than Theo having already picked out books he thinks she's like to read so that she can opinion vomit all over him, before she even confessed that she liked him. thats so nerdy and beautiful! To someone like eloise telling her, "i want to know all your opinions about these books" may as well be "you are the bane of my existence and the object of all my desires."

[@srijanipal01]

Yes it was great I wanna see them together so much!

[@ayannawatts3446]

SEASON 3 SPOILER. Except for John Kilmartin having a piece Francesca heard and didn’t like rewritten in a way that she suggested ❤

[@perioddramaedits6458]

I NEED Eloise and Theo to be endgame. Her book was quite frankly awful. Theo and Eloise have a chance to be the best ship in the show, their banter is incredible, Theo keeps her on her toes lol. If Shonda wastes this opportunity I’m going to be so annoyed

[@bionicwoman9884]

will not be end game it will be sir Philip

[@Cyberlucy]

You may be surprised. Sir Philip is already different from his book. I am pretty sure they mean to fix that story.

[@jessicayoung3656]

​@Cyberlucy Yup no one wants to see an abusive father find love. Also sir Phillips hatred for his first wife was awful

[@mariafranciscabertoglio6759]

They could do something like they did with Lady Sybil and Branson on Downton Abbey. The family opposing first, they eloping and then they coming back and the family helping out Theo and Eloise. Just please don't kill Eloise like they did Sybil.

[@m.r5039]

No because it’s not realistic, there is no way someone of her class would be allowed to wed someone like him. Her whole family reputation would be ruined then.

[@AMoniqueOcampo]

I knew Eloise would be your favorite! She's one of the younger children and she's someone who actively seeks out social change. I cannot wait for her season! And I totally ship her with Theo!

[@michanone]

She is sooo much better in the series!! That whole writing is fantastic. Eloise is wonderful.

[@ztslovebird]

Does she, though? She tends to spend most of her time whining & pouting through every event.

[@19Rena96]

she had some "not like other girls" in the show tho

[@ztslovebird]

@@19Rena96 That doesn’t make her interesting if she’s just going to complain all the time. If she REALLY wanted to set herself apart, she’d wear pants, campaign for the poor, get her hands dirty, etc.

[@HuntingViolets]

@@19Rena96She told a dance partner off for suggesting she was "not like other girls."

[@elenapl21]

Honestly at this point, and having read eloise's book, Theo and Eloise are the only thing to make me keep watching this show. Eloise deserves so much and she can have that with Theo. Not because he is the perfect man but because he cares and he'll try to give everything to make her happy. Thanks for the video, i hope we'll see them in s3

[@Shenanakins]

this is my favorite bridgerton couple. I sincerely hope they change Eloise's story. Julia Quinn said she gave complete creative control to netflix so hopefully they see how much more interesting this pair is for Eloise given the changes to her character.

[@MystifyingStar]

She gave creative control to an extent but as part of the contract with Shonda, all the characters have to end up with their partners from the book. So if they get to Eloise’s season, she’ll end up with Phillip, regardless of what other changes they make

[@nataliia4790]

​@@MystifyingStarboring 😢

[@paolaromero1853]

@@MystifyingStar Julia Quinn already clarified that rumor, she explained that it is not true. There is no contract where it has been stipulated that the couples in the books must be the same in the TV Show.

[@spacecat1974]

@@paolaromero1853unless he turns out to be some distant cousin of someone it’s not going to happen. Sir Phillip isn’t that bad of a choice, not really.

[@paolaromero1853]

@@spacecat1974 it’s not imposible! In a 1800s fictional world were interracial couples where the norm a relationship between people from different classes is definitely not imposible. Look at Kate parents for examples, they were from different social classes and they ended up happily married. I’m not saying it will be easy, as the ton will judge Eloise but this storyline does makes sense with Eloise. And you’re right the Phillip from the show seems like a good person (not the Phillip from the book, that man was the worst!), but sadly that man seems so boring. I find it difficult to believe that Eloise could be happy with him, being a stepmother to children’s and living on the countryside. But I respect everyone’s opinions and look forward to see what they end up doing with Eloise.

[@dawntreader1247]

ok my endgame for eloise is this; she writes letters back and forth with a gentleman, a la book, and midway through the season she storms off to him, either angry at him or in love or whatever, only to be greeted at the address as a stranger. she pays a quick confused visit, and leaves. as her carriage drives away she sees the postman deliver to a servant, yells ‘stop the carriage’ and dramatically runs out. IT WAS THEO SENDING HER LETTERS ALL ALONG. the rest of the season could focus on overcoming the class barriers etc.

[@user-se6wd3wx8b]

they way i would EAT THIS UP

[@ItsYukiToo]

I sincerely hope whenever Eloise's Season comes around it's with Theo. Despite being a small side plot their relationship drew my attention every time. These actors work so well together.

[@lismarie9011]

I really need them to change her season, they are AMAZING, their chemistry is off the charts and I don’t dislike Sir Phillip but the show can be different than the books, pls let them be Endgame or AT LEAST bring him back so they can talk

[@siobhaneringde]

:')) ❤

[@kelliehorn1082]

This might be controversial or something, BUT... I had a controlling boyfriend who was in a rush to get married. He proposed and talked me into saying yes 🤦‍♀️ Shortly after, I went away with my siblings for a weekend, and my brother gave me the best marriage advice he ever got, from my dad: Marriage should be the most selfish decision you ever make. So I gave the ring back, broke things off for good, and met my now-husband 2 months later!

[@rachaeltrujillo9960]

I kind of love this actually!❤

[@cynthiaromero5719]

Why is it marriage the most selfish decision you ever make? can someone explain it?

[@kelliehorn1082]

@@cynthiaromero5719 Marrying someone to make them happy, instead of marrying someone because it will make you happy, may or may not turn out for the best. There's nothing like marrying the person you really want to marry.

[@cynthiaromero5719]

@@kelliehorn1082 ohh yeah, that's true

[@Taleneki]

I'm turning 30 this year and have never been in a relationship (might be demisexual, unsure about that though), only been on some dates. I also started studying again at age 26, recently finished my bachelor's degree and am just now starting to work in that field. So I'm very accustomed to disappointing people's expectations, yet I can't deny that it still stings when I hear sentences such as "She'll be alone forever if she doesn't find a partner soon" (my mother's friend a few weeks ago). But ultimately I don't care, because every decision I've made so far has been true to what I felt in that moment. I'm not gonna ignore those feelings to fit somebody's narrow picture of what a 30-year-old should have experienced.

[@WhiteRabbitKurai]

You do you! Whatever makes you happy! Other people don't live our lives, don't experience our sadness and joy. Only we do. So good on you, for being you!

[@Taleneki]

@@WhiteRabbitKurai Exactly, thank you! :)

[@missnaomi613]

My firstborn (25) is confirmed demisexual, and I kinda had to train myself to not worry about that for them. Other people need to learn to not have specific expectations for other people's lives! Keep living life on your terms. People who deserve the privilege of having you in their lives will deal with it. Happy Pride month!

[@mathildekgm2382]

Breathe and know yourself, and be yourself ! While listening to my parents, I failed at everything before the end of my thirties, disappointed my parents, troubles at work I didn't really choose, rejecting my first husband they didn't approuve, and so on... Then I stepped aside, one year of thinking, understanding who I was, what was my story, with forgotten traumas and so on... After that period, a lot of beautiful things came to me, when I was almost 40, such as a partner, family (children at 40 and 42, and I'm also a woman), new degree, new job. I 'm no saying you have to get those things in order to be happy, if you don't need them, I'm just saying : be deaf to others' expectations, and listen to your needs... (sorry for my poor English, as I'm French)

[@Palaa94]

I’ve been there! I think I’m demi too and I was in the exact same situation until 24 (when I finally started a relationship). And I’m so happy and proud of myself for never caring about what society expected of me (and everyone else) prior to my current relationship. And I totally believe that if it wasn’t for my bf, I’d be totally single right now and maybe feeling a little bit confused or like you do. And maybe what I’m trying to say is: remain true to yourself. Maybe one day you may fall in love when you least expect it (as it happened to me) or maybe not, but I don’t think there’s anything worst than living a life that is not yours ❤ Everything about the way you feel is right, most of people just don’t get it yet. And, being about the same age as you, I think the only thing you (and I) should care about is just be okay with yourself. I really love to know about more people like us! ❤

[@tlahmed]

I’m going to be so upset if they don’t end up together 😢

[@brubs2556]

She married Sir Philip in the books, so I don't thnk Theo and her will have a future

[@superwholockpotterhead9247]

Foremost I‘m going to ask this: Have you read the books? Cause if not further discussion would probably result in heavy spoilers that I don‘t want to be responsible for 😅

[@jadeitegray3531]

Thoe was to show she was ready for love , she ends up with Phillip

[@LJE1821]

Sad to say, Theo is part of her growth. But I wish we will see him more 😢

[@andie2140]

I really want this endgame! I hated Eloise's book, she deserves so much better! And Eloise and Theo are so perfect together, I ship them so much 💙

[@nataliia4790]

💯

[@gabimateran9851]

I honestly hate Eloise's book, mostly because I read the books AFTER watching the show so I found her being very different in the books-with my preference leaning towards her personality in the show. Philip was horrible and insipid, definitely not what I was expecting for my favorite character, and the entire storyline felt so lackluster. She deserved better. I really hope she ends up with Theo in the show, and if they don't well at least fix her storyline with Philip.

[@thefairychild]

Never been this early to a video. I'd also wanted the two of them to make a go at a relationship. It would have been so fitting for Eloise.

[@dianelysblancogonzalez6771]

For me they definitely were the best thing of season 2, I desperately need them on s3. And you are so right she is the best character of the show

[@cynthiaromero5719]

"Without a solid friendship, you will not have a long lasting relationship" that's just brilliant ❤

[@embee7434]

Based on things you've shared about your wife and things she's shared about herself in videos, your favorite character choice is unsurprising, only sweet.

[@moonpielion]

Eloise carried the show for me but season 2s characters were an interesting add

[@amberts180]

I love Bridgerton so much. This format of having a full subsequent series to follow the love story of each Bridgerton sibling works so well in revealing each character’s personality, views on life, and life partner.

[@destinyorchid14]

Please do a video on Queen Charolette!!! It was so good and I would love to hear your commentary on it!!

[@janinnaforest]

I second this!!

[@allyhvis6046]

Yes, please!!!

[@ynarighthere320]

I am honestly surprised there aren't more comments like these because Charlotte and George's relationship is definitely something to look into! Please do a video on them!

[@HuntingViolets]

Nice to see my girl getting a little love from KZbin.

[@JayceeChax]

The problem with Eloise & Theo is that class differences may be romantic, but they are difficult to overcome. Everyone believes they can do that, but financial difficulties can break apart couples. Irreconcilably even in the modern world. And considering that it is in regency times, Theo is disposable for the upper-class people. There is a literal danger to his life. Because a working-class person's life comes after the "reputation" of the rich. The sad part is, even if there was no romance between them, if they wanted to be friends for life, their differences in class & the fact that they are opposite genders, means they can only be friends for life by marrying each other.

[@niyah7139]

Agreed but that's what's going to make the season so much interesting when they get together because of The Angst and drama😂😂. Bridgerton whole theme is that love can cure all. If love can cure racism it can definitely cure class differences. 💅

[@bassgirl6678]

@@niyah7139they aren’t getting together tho. Have u just missed all the spoilers from book fans? Considering how the show has treated certain characters and relationships they aren’t gonna repeat a class difference relationship and that is Benedict’s story, also Sir Phillip has already been introduced and been in both seasons.

[@nataliia4790]

In this show nothing look real

[@melissaisloud7404]

You should do one on the similarities and relationship of young Violet Bridgerton and her daughter, Hyacinth. They lovingly clash bc they’re exactly alike. 😂

[@Cyberlucy]

If you have time can you do the Penelope and Eloise friendship?

[@Ricky.Z]

Eloise is my favorite character for sure ❤

[@Kanekonagase]

I hope you do a video on Anthony and Kate, vs Anthony and the opera singer from season 1. And why one side worked out but the other didn't.

[@aaroneinhorn5529]

I feel that analysis is a little unfair. The societal pressure of Regency England are so much stronger than anything we have to live with now in America. This isn't a Hilton deciding to marry a checkout clerk. It is so much more rigid than that. And the thing is that if Eloise truly chose Theo? Her family *would* have supported her as best they possibly could. They would have done everything possible to insulate Theo and Eloise from the daggers of society. But every day would be hard for both of them. Neither of them could live the life that they want to pursue.

[@ah5721]

It would be social suicide for Theo and Eloise to marry. Just like Lydia and Wickham in pride and prejudice. But without Mr Darcy to provide them with extra living expenses

[@LJE1821]

Eloise is my spirit animal. Some people don’t understand her (us) 😌

[@rhyanshelby6572]

Good God I hope they don't follow the books for Eloise. The book relationship is so boring, not to mention just...kinda creepy and not at all what I would want for Eloise. Or any woman really

[@islasullivan3463]

Considering how they changed Kate and Anthony’s story from the books (like them being forced to be married bc people saw them in bee scene) if Eloise ends up with Phillip it’ll probably be very different from the books.

[@HuntingViolets]

@@islasullivan3463 They'd still have to kill off another character to do that.

[@ameliaretter8120]

I do like Eloise and Theo much more than who she actually ends up with, but since Benedict is my favourite Bridgerton I'm kinda annoyed that they're doing the "oooh, romance across social classes" with Eloise when they just decided to skip over Benedict and Sophie 😑

[@ah5721]

Its sad that the extreme classism ruined their abilirty to be friends and more😢 . Can you talk about how hurtfull Eloise and Penelopes relationship was with the discovery of Penelope being lady wistle down?

[@SCordova19]

Please do Charlotte and George especially when she says she will stand with him between the heavens and earth and tell him who he is♥️💔

[@in2itivelady]

Love this. Eloise was my favourite character from the moment she screamed at Daphne from the bottom of the stairs to hurry up 😂. It was VERY sweet to see her make a new friend(!) and see that blossom into romance for her this season. Especially one who sees the same problems in the world as she does and who values her thoughts and opinions. All very healthy relationship foundations!! I hope they bring these two back together. They were my absolute favourites this season.

[@aubslee]

Jono, I am soooo glad that you became a fan of Bridgerton (thank you, Alicia!)!! I have been watching and waiting a year for these videos and am truly enjoying your insights. I can't wait to for the inevitable Kate and Anthony video, especially getting your take on his grief process and how it informs their relationship. Maybe that one you'll do with Alan on Cinema Therapy? Thank you for these.

[@magdalenawitkowska3014]

I think breaking of Penelope and Eloise frendship is more interesting than love plot here ^^ It wasn't in the books but here is quite nicely done.

[@niyah7139]

This relationship made the Betrayal hurt even more because she ruined Eloise's reputation by making her out to be a harlot . Eloise was alone with the unchaperoned man from a lower class... we saw what happened Daphne and Simon were left alone. I personally can't wait to see how Eloise's going to get treated next season by Society

[@noniesundstrom119]

I haven’t seen the show, but I loved your commentary on it. Did following my heart work for me? What did I think about what others said or thought? I’ve lived 3/4 of a century on this earth and mostly followed my heart when young, it’s never been happily ever after and it has been very difficult, but for some reason my old love is still with me after 52 years, and we’re still trying to make the best of our lives. We’re artists, we never let society dictate our life. We live apart much of the time due to letting each other follow our dreams when they don’t align. We’ve been through years of therapy. A few major natural disasters, too. Still, we seem to have ended up with wonderful children and grandchildren, and take great pleasure in them. Life is a mystery, so I have no sage advice in my old age. 😊

[@saulia8963]

Oh my God. Thank you for this!!!!!!

[@AuntLoopy123]

I watched the first episode, because of curiosity. I watched all the rest of it, AND read the books, because of Eloise and Daphne.

[@vanesaradayoung7099]

My great great grandfather actually came from a wealthy family and when he decided to marry a lower class woman and was completely disowned and ignored by his family he became an alcoholic and when he died his family didn't allow his wife or children to be at his viewing and funeral.

[@anamartin6113]

La mejor pareja en toda la serie y realmente no tuvieron ni un "momento romántico" y a lo mucho están 10 minutos juntos. Ojalá ellos sean el final del juego, porque el libro de Eloise no termina con alguien que sea un igual a ella y la verdad prefiero a Theo❤

[@majopareja]

Hi, Jonathan, have you considered doing react videos to Downton Abbey? That TV show is a jewel, and presents family, class, work dynamics brilliantly. Highly recommended!

[@aliciasipocz8406]

Since the Queen Charlotte story is out now, I am hoping to see a Queen Charlotte/King George, Lady Danbury (and her life), as well as Violet gets therapized. Queen Charlotte was bi-far the most beautifully done season from Bridgerton yet

[@skyejacques]

I agree. I had decided to not watch any more Bridgerton after the second season because I hated all the characters and their development. And I mean all of them! I saw each as extremely self serving and superficial. But Queen Charlotte is surprisingly empathetic and sweet. And cast perfectly. I won't be watching any more Bridgerton tho. Just read the book synopsis. The Witcher part 3 has taught me my time is too precious to waste any more on the shenanigans of Netflix 😅😂

[@janinnaforest]

please PLEASE do Queen Charlotte: A Bridgerton Story gets therapized!!!

[@saulia8963]

I needd Shondaland to watch this

[@katrinascarlet5637]

I've had to lie to my partner. It was by omission but that didn’t make me feel any better. Our only correspondence was through letters, which took weeks to arrive. It was a bad situation but we as a family (me and his parents) chose not to tell him until the situation had passed. If it ended badly, there was nothing he could do about it even if he knew. If it ended well, he'd suffer with worry for at least 3 weeks before the good news could reach him. He had an important job to do and worrying when he literally could do nothing, not even speak to us, would affect his ability. His mother told me to let her take the blame, it was no secret that she could be intimidating enough to make me comply with what she decided so it'd be easy to believe but I didn't want to lie again. I felt enough shame for lying in the first place. His mother finally told him when it was time. It was a mercy to not be the one. She must've taken the brunt of his anger, by the time he could talk to me he had calmed and said "I understand. I'm angry but I understand. I would've done the same."

[@ayannawatts3446]

They made a mess of Eloise in season 3. I hope they get her back to right (Benedict as well -it looked like they were going to get their ish together by the last episode). I know she’ll end up with Sir Philip but I’ll never forget Theo ❤

[@missnaomi613]

I have generally gone with choices I thought I was "supposed to" do. And been miserable. Not anymore! I'm still putting my life back together, and when I have the chance again, I'll choose who I want, even if they seem like the "bad boy." (Or bad girl, or bad enby...)

[@iqoute7889]

Honestly you should therapize ragnar lothbrok from vikings, i bet there's a lot of interesting things to talk about there. With his mindset but also the cultural and psychological difference between us now and them back then

[@ah5721]

And how drugs make people do things they usually wouldnt

[@candithegreat2438]

I love the show and appreciate all the hard work that is put in, however there is an audio issue at times that sounds like the show clips that are used in these episodes are in sterio and have an echo quality. Please look into this as it seems great at one moment and then when Johno is reviewing the clip it sounds like an echo.

[@e_intelligence2487]

You should do a Therapized video on Gilmore Girls! Specifically on Lorelai Gilmore and her parents, Richard and Emily Gilmore.

[@toriwenzel2758]

Currently i have been through a similar situation... I go to the church and i have faith. Im in a serious relationship with someone who doesnt. And for months i wondered if i wanted this to happen or not because of it. Right now its a bit discouraging to go out there at the community because i know e everyone disagrees with my choice, despite that i know this person has always respected my faith, beliefs, values and wants.

[@ah5721]

If you both can agree how to raise kids to be productive members of society and if they are going to be religious or not and your partner respects loves and cares for you will support you financially no matter what then who the freak cares?!

[@ayomidedareabel5525]

Well as far as he doesn't make you compromise your values and what you believe in and also respects your faith then I think you should go ahead. Maybe attend couples therapy before making the final decision

[@toriwenzel2758]

@@ah5721 i also think so. And i dont want to have kids xD

[@toriwenzel2758]

@@ayomidedareabel5525 he always respects my beliefs. He asks about it and learns. Thank you for your comment

[@annalysenko9180]

Please do Schmigadoon!

[@sandwichqueen6875]

You should put headphones on so there isn’t the double audio

[@azalea9]

Can you please analyse friendships? Like Eloise and Penelope?

[@renees4577]

I'd be interested in your view on Queen Charlotte and what it means to be a caretaker.

[@LisaKokx]

Reputation and/or expectations coming before someone's happiness (quite possibly for the rest of their lives) feels so unfair. Sure, social status has its importance (especially in this case), but the people who have the loudest opinions are never the ones that have to sacrifice their lives over it.

[@JustFlemishMe]

I find your phrasing amusing because, historically, that was the actual deal. Nobles got to have land and wealth and servants, but the other side of that was military service. At Cannae, more than 300 Senators, magistrates and Knights were killed. At the Battle of the Golden Spurs, more than 2000 nobles lost their lives. This expectation didn't really die until WWI either.

[@ieshadover]

I would like to see you do 5th Element.

[@agenttheater5]

Book 5 is all about Eloise, if the show lasts long enough to season 5 we'll get her focus season. Either with Theo or with someone else.

[@in2itivelady]

Here’s hoping it’s with Theo🤞. That book is so the opposite of everything that they did for her arc this season.

[@agenttheater5]

@@in2itivelady well we'll have to see. The show hasn't let us down yet, so whatever they give us, if they get us to season 5, they'll probably give us something great.

[@louiserosado4389]

Eloise is the best character in the books series, but her own book is the worst among all. I hope her season can repair the damage, Theo is such a great character

[@Meggymiyeko]

Alright just go through all the couples 😂

[@saltynikita5095]

Eloise’s book is my favorite from the series.

[@story-powerpodcastbylucind4149]

Penelope is my favorite because I was like her, though I didn’t write a gossip publication. I do like Eloise and her friendship with Penelope.

[@DianaW3431]

I like what you’re saying about relationships with Theo and Eloise, but I haven’t really liked Eloise so far. She just seems selfish in the show compared to her character in the books. I’m not saying the writers shouldn’t change how her romance story is portrayed in the show because her book is problematic, but so far in the show I have a hard time rooting for her.

[@JustClaude13]

At six minutes in I know how large his press is, because he's unloading packages of paper for it. I've run presses that size.

[@MendedLight]

I imagine that's strenous!

[@patiencekillz]

Queen Charlotte next!

[@wand8626]

Not everyone has someone that cares about them

[@keagank9414]

It’s cute that he picks out books for her to share her opinions on. All I can think about however is how Bridgerton clearly avoids sapphic and asexual stories and forces straight relationships onto the women of the series. It feels wrong to me not only for Eloise, but for her younger sister who so obviously fell for Mikaela the minute she saw her. Not hating on the Eloise and Theo coupling though, but if that is to happen, I’m PRAYING her sister lives her sapphic dreams, or it’s at least fully explored in some way in future seasons. If their brother can kiss boys, why can’t the women kiss girls too?

[@reneecoons5057]

I am not a fan of the tv Eloise. I liked her in the books, but she is so disrespectful in the show. I am not saying she shouldn't fight for gender equality, but she is straight up rude to everyone. In the books she didn't plan on getting married, but she still showed respect to her mother and was part of society.

[@MonsterPrincessLala]

Eloise is awful to everyone lol she's constantly condescending and doesn't pay attention to anyone else. That's literally why she never caught on to Penelope, she point blank says she doesn't listen to her. Eloise is perpetually looking down her nose at everyone.

[@dayschange2]

Theo seems nice, though I hope that they don't make him Eloise's love interest when her season comes along. For one thing, I love the show, and really don't want to see it deal with the fan backlash veering away from the storyline in the books. But also. . .and this is just me, my personal opinion. . .but I feel like when I was younger I dove head first into reading these kinds of "they love each other despite their different backgrounds and they made it work" stories, to the point where I kind of feel like I've heard the story that Netflix would throw together for these two a million times before. Whereas, the story about Eloise falling in love with someone over the course of a years' long correspondence is actually a bit more new to me? But that's just me! And I'll be excited to see where they go with the show either way.

[@bassgirl6678]

These Theo fans really be delulu.

[@aussiemiss1442]

To maintain any reality this can never happen. A woman with intelligence 200: years ago was out of place. This was the time of Jane Austin. Society was rigid. The show runners can play with mixing it up a bit but can you imagine Queen Charlotte going “a Bridgeton marrying a working class chap, oh goodie this would be fun. “ Eloise is very close to her family, she can push against the way things are but will be happiest when in contact with them. The only way I see it working is to have them emigrate to Canada, it’s a bit early for Australia. Can you imagine Eloise doing her own cooking, cleaning, washing? She is way too spoilt, entitled and self centred for that! I think a friendship is all it can be. What is wrong with sir Phillip? He had an abusive childhood but was university educated. He inherited title and lands from his brother, married his brothers pregnant fiancé who was not ok emotionally. He raised the twins as his own. Eloise was in contact with him via letters. So how will they bring these together given that we now have Marina a cousin of Penelope not a cousin of Eloise? I don’t think they can have a double standard. Anthony knew he could never be with the opera singer. Benedict fell in love with servant, that was resolved satisfactorily. I saw someone had written that Eloise would not be happy in the country. The Bridgestons live in the country on an estate, they only go to the city for the season. With Phillip she could go to the ton or be happy in the country . Where could she live with Theo ? Don’t set your hopes on it, unless he is found to be a long lost relative of a titled person, or if he goes to sea and comes back rich. Money and title or trade and servant class. That’s it. Maybe politics. It would Be 150 years until it would be feasible. I love the Phillip story. He is a good match for her. I think the storyline of the incorrigible twins pitted against Eloise will be too good a storyline to pass up. As advanced as she might be mentally she would never cope coming down to the working class of that era. Working class is Charles dickens style of living. Middle class is quite a way off, at least 100 years. I’m not sure hoe they can tie this together the girls are both in the late 20s before they marry. I guess the children are just not mentioned. I mean Charlotte had 13 or so children we haven’t seen one except in her own story. The story had Eloise writing a letter of sympathy after Marina caught a chill and died after trying to drown herself. That could still happen. There would be no reason Eloise could not write.

[@Ymills_21193]

She’s great until season 3 😅

[@MendedLight]

I dunno. She's struggling as a character with some real emotions and hurt. I do like her apology and building bridges again, as well as helping the bully girl to not be such a bully.

[@LJE1821]

You’re not really watching the show 😌

[@TaniDeepavaliNawaz]

Tldr: Theo is Eloise’s Savannah, and #EloiseAndPhillipFTW Eloise and Theo are cute and have chemistry, but they lack maturity, selflessness and are very similar to Anthony and Savannah from season 1 in that there is not enough reciprocity on both sides. Savannah deserved better than what Anthony gave her, and so does Theo. Theo is too mature for Eloise and would have had to put up with spoilt, entitled, privileged nonsense from her if they continued. Eloise and Phillip in the books are not very compatible, and because of poor planning and impulsiveness on Eloise’s part, are thrown into a situation where Eloise has to learn humility, patience, empathy and consideration for others. She is a wonderful character but she has a long way to go before she is willing to take responsibility and accountability for herself and her actions. The way she comes to that realisation and takes ownership of her mistakes as well as takes on the responsibilities of being a partner, parent and sibling in “To Sir Phillip, With Love” is what redeems her from being essentially the “Emma” of the Bridgerton family: extremely intelligent, loyal and perceptive but self-righteous, judgemental and impatient.

[@perioddramaedits6458]

So basically you want show Eloise to be forced into a life she has made it clear she doesn’t like or want

[@in2itivelady]

Everything that this video says is important for a healthy relationship foundation is eliminated in her book. I was SO excited to get to her book after season 1 and was so brutally disappointed by what a tragic “romance” she had. Trapped, surprised by him revealing he had children (after 1yr of correspondence), expected to be the primary caregiver, and constantly told to shut up, stop complaining, that she’s annoying. Somehow I don’t find the idea of succumbing to Stockholm Syndrome a particularly romantic story.

[@TaniDeepavaliNawaz]

@@perioddramaedits6458 I don’t condone forcing her into “a life she never wanted”. However, as a desi woman who used to state loudly and proudly that I never wanted to get married or have kids, what we want may/may not change over time. Eloise showed her immaturity in the books and series by continually ignoring other people’s feelings, privacy, autonomy and even their priorities because she believes she knows better. She judges Daphne for wanting a home and children, and in fact, her full book is FILLED with excerpts from her letters to others in her family displaying an admirable desire to connect and support, but an unknowing tendency to judge without knowing or understanding. I do not support her being forced into anything against her will, but no1, and I mean NO1, forced her to get into that carriage and hop off to an unknown person’s home without a) letting her family know (they deserved to hear it face-to-face and not by note), b) no letting the person know so that they could arrange the chaperone THEY suggested before her arrival and c) without an ounce of planning aside from: just set out impulsively because my best friend who was supposed to grow old with me fell in love with my brother and they’re getting married. She is spoilt, inconsiderate and judgemental, that’s just part of who she is and she grows out of it, which is the point of growing up and also a part of writing realistic, well-rounded, compelling characters. Phillip is a flawed man, but he not only admires Eloise, he tries to adapt to and address her needs. Eloise also needs to be needed and likes managing things. Theo judged her for something that was beyond her understanding and her control, and while that makes Theo and Eloise similar, it does not make them compatible. Also, could we please not throw around “Stockholm Syndrome” without taking into account that she went there of her own volition and STAYED of her own volition??

[@TaniDeepavaliNawaz]

@@in2itivelady just reread the book recently and if anything, the book is more often filled with Phillip admiring her, his children pranking, harming, trying to make amends and then admiring her. Eloise mentions more than anyone else that she knows she talks too much, and as someone who talks too much and tries to hold it in, (and I talk about as much as I type 🤦🏾‍♀️) it can get overwhelming for anyone not used to or prepared for it. That doesn’t make them bad or cruel for asking/telling me to shut up, especially if they apologise and make up for it later. Theo is an ill-conceived first love who literally cuts ties with her and labels her a spoilt brat without making allowance for “of course she is, she’s never known anything else, but she’s a human and can grow”. Phillip not only does that, he doesn’t think he deserves her and then tries to do better for himself, her and his children.

[@in2itivelady]

@@TaniDeepavaliNawaz don’t make me come with the receipts. At one point-when she’s trying to tell him she believes there’s something wrong with the children (they’re being abused under his “watch” because he’s completely neglected them) he tells her a) it’s her problem, she’s their mom now and b) that’s she could really be doing “something else” with her mouth right now instead. He tries to initiate sex with her rather than listen to her concerns about HIS children. And that’s just ONE, albeit deeply egregious, incident.

[@emyywolf]

Men in this show are soooooooooo “dramatic”. It’s so cringe.

[@anapauladef.bedagomescardi5911]

As a character, Eloise is brilliant. But in the third she’s simply insufferable.

[@anapauladef.bedagomescardi5911]

She complains about being a part of a stuck up society, yet she often does not see anyone’s problems besides hers.

[@bassgirl6678]

I love Eloise! But hate Theo, I can’t wait for her season with Philip! Partially cuz I think they’ll be great together and partially so that all the fake fans who say that if Eloise and Theo aren’t endgame they will stop watching will stop watching.

[@Cyrra]

Great video! And yes, I want more Eloise ❤ Also, I noticed you now talked in the silences and waited a bit before talking, which is amazing; you give such great commentary in all your vids (also with Alan and your wife), but last video you were talking a lot through the videobits. Now we got both the awesome video and your view on it without focusing on just one 😁

[@lemondeduvintage]

I loved your analysis of Eloise and Theo's relationship. You have highlighted many of the points why I love and ship them. ☺️❤️ I hope Shondaland recognises that making end up together would be a welcome book change that would reap them many rewards 💯🩷🩷