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[@LexClips]

Full podcast episode: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gH-WfIN8l7x2r5o Lex Fridman podcast channel: kzbin.info Guest bio: Elon Musk is CEO of X, xAI, SpaceX, Tesla, Neuralink, and The Boring Company.

[@joescott8877]

Man, that "Young men who don't know each other, killing each other..." quote about The Great War cut deep. Today is "Armistice Day." Everyone should go read "Dulce Et Decorum Est" by Wilfred Owen.

[@gsand2892]

When Elon said that last part I felt like it was a scene of a movie

[@levernallanbowles4093]

Lex, you have very interested podcasts. Please consider interviewing Gen. Sir Richard Shirreff.

[@urvanhroboatos8044]

Orwell said: When it comes to the pinch , pacifism is no more than a collaboration.

[@AliennSvurm]

Is collaboration a bad thing?

[@luketompkins6509]

@@AliennSvurm Ask all the nations we gave to Hitler for the sake of "peace" if collaboration is a bad thing.

[@yellowtunes2756]

@@luketompkins6509 do you think world should have invaded USA and Turkey for doing the exact same thing in Syria that Russia did in Ukraine (help rebels) ?

[@winfle]

@@yellowtunes2756 and took Crimea before. Clown. its know fact, that it was beginning of hybrid war, which continued in full scale invastion in 2022. No "rebels" exist, they all were proxy russian army suplied with ammo and ammunition

[@yellowtunes2756]

@@winfle Ukraine announced "anti terrorist operation" in Donbas before Russian puppet Strelkov crossed Ukrainian border to lead the resistance because resistance ALREADY existed. Imagine, not everyone enjoyed some billionaires and nazis in Kiev overthrowing DEMOCRATICALLY elected government they voted for. On top of banning Russian language, which 80% of Donbas and Crimeans use their their main Russia supplied rebels in Ukraine with weapons just like USA and Turkey supplied rebels in Syria. So again, what's the difference?

[@redavis6581]

2023: A robot and an alien in full conversation. What a time to be alive 👏👏👏👌

[@ClimateScepticSceptic-ub2rg]

And both in love with a sociopath. Surely the end cannot be long in coming?

[@Travis_Yangzte]

👽

[@axelk6521]

LMAO. That was a good one.

[@CuriousConnoisseurs]

Don't forget the cameraman which is a lizard.

[@27forlife]

what? @@ClimateScepticSceptic-ub2rg

[@brozbro]

I hope lex asks Volodymyr Zelenskyy his opinion on SpaceX's propellants and engine configurations.

[@sheikyerbouti83]

Haha you nailed it

[@WorldofTanks48]

Realistically, Zelensky only knows how to swing his dick around on a stage. A stand-up comedian who is going to lose the war and has lost way too many people, especially young ones.

[@user-likespizza]

bro, Zelensky was an actor most of his life. He is not some expert politician. More than that, politician is not a scientist. Every wise and communicable human can become one. And we shouldn't use appeal to authority argument like you did, if we want constructive dialogue

[@sheikyerbouti83]

@@user-likespizzaI think the point was, Elon is there talking confidently about things he has no fucking idea about, it would be just a relevant to get Zelensky on to do the same.

[@user-likespizza]

@@sheikyerbouti83 I understand that message, but disagree. Elon knows something about politics definetly. And absolutely has a right to state his opinion. He is not in charge of Ukraine or Nato, not much he can really do anyway

[@juanitamoreno7446]

Great Conversations Can Hear Mr. Musk Concerns Thank you Both.

[@janpierzchala2004]

By the way the average age of a fighting Ukrainian in this war is 43

[@janpierzchala2004]

Either they protect their youth or the youth protects themselves. Statistically, not every boy for sure.

[@Dapryor]

That’s wild. I didn’t know that.

[@clareahtee]

I read that it's because they already sent the young to the frontlines to die. And that the average age has been rising because of this.

[@eachday5705]

As a ukrainian i can confirm that.

[@janpierzchala2004]

numbers do not add, they did NOT lose more than 200,000 dead and seriously wounded so far, come on @@clareahtee

[@BuiltBelief]

WW1 Quote - "Young boys who don't know each other, Killing each other, on behalf of Old Men who DO know each other". Sad but true...

[@uberhaxonova]

soldiers choose to be soldiers, do not be a fool and give responsibility to anyone else for their choices. Yes i know many were drafted in WW1, but the draft has been abolished and now in the land of the free it is a volunteer force.

[@johnnyshanksalot8358]

@@uberhaxonovaBut it's not abolished in the conflict that the entire video's about so...?

[@peepeepoopoo2749]

@@uberhaxonovaDon’t be so naive. The time of young men going into the military for honor and status is over. You only go in the military nowadays if you are desperate. This isn’t Rome.

[@uberhaxonova]

@@peepeepoopoo2749 your the naive one to think people only join out of desperation. go outside fool

[@Truth_Hurts528]

The quote needs to be updated to include women and the 100 different genders,,,,,,

[@irish7summits]

So how does Ukraine therefore get rid of the invader from their sovereign and democratically founded state? Didnt hear a hint of an answer to that.

[@user-eg3lo8jp3e]

to give the territories donated by the Russian Empire to her

[@irish7summits]

Not falling for that BS argument. Independent stats have a right to be independent. They don't have to comply with whatever part of history you want to freeze thinking at.@@user-eg3lo8jp3e

[@Tubularjake]

0:35 Such a genius, this man. Attackers suffer more casualties than defenders, because of defenses? Ty Elon.

[@jaenbrits1652]

Love your show Lex. You are a great example to others.

[@DanielJanzon]

There is already a deal. It is called the Budapest Memorandum in which Russia promises to respects Ukraine's border and in return Ukraine abandon their nuclear arms. US and Great Brittain enforces the deal. See how it went. Why would a new deal with Russia work out any better?

[@isi3456789]

Agreements with Russia aren't worth the paper they are written on.

[@RMJerich0]

thats not correct lol. dig more info. You can check JFK interview

[@eachday5705]

​@@RMJerich0 The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and the United States of America confirm to Ukraine their commitment, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to respect the independence, sovereignty, and existing borders of Ukraine.

[@eachday5705]

​ The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defense or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations.

[@nordlandak6853]

Then nato expanded its border beyond Germany and supported a coup in Ukraine. Ukraine threatened to join NATO.

[@levernallanbowles4093]

It would be interesting to hear an interview of President Volodymyr Zelensky and the presidents of Eastern Europe, Britain and France.

[@gerhard-jx4rn]

Good video thanks

[@RiyazKhan-qr7kh]

00:04 Hope for a ceasefire or truce in Ukraine 00:44 Challenges in the war in Ukraine 01:21 Drones increase efficiency in long-range artillery, leading to high casualties on both sides. 01:56 Significant local superiority in numbers and combined arms are crucial in breaking through enemy lines. 02:36 High casualties and ongoing territorial disputes 03:11 Predicted high casualties with minimal territorial changes. 03:40 Youth are often forced into war by older generations. 04:12 Recommend not sending Ukrainian youth to die in trenches.

[@microaggressor1113]

Haha for a 4 minute clip. People probably used it too.

[@volodyadykun6490]

I wonder who he recommends to send to die from attackers and why he's always blaming Ukrainians and not the agressors

[@spazzywhitebelt]

​@@volodyadykun6490when did he blame Ukraine. It sounded like Elon thought it was important that more people shouldn't die, I don't think he expressed an opinion on why the war started.

[@volodyadykun6490]

@@spazzywhitebelt he always tells Ukrainians to calm down, negotiate, not die (lol). He definitely blames Ukraine, as if it wants to fight a war now and not got invaded by Russia

[@spazzywhitebelt]

@@volodyadykun6490 he has been a proponent of negotiation. People say Ukraine shouldn't negotiate because it's allowing Russia to bully their way into new land but the alternative is fighting in which people die. Neither is desirable.

[@Nauda999]

WWI was involving most of Europe and trenches thousands of kilometers long with huge armies on both sides. In Ukraine while frontline is long, intense fighting happen in hotspots, and there rate of casualties are very high from artillery, that can't keep happening for years, one side will simply will not be able to keep doing this. It is very unlikely that the hot conflict in Ukraine will last longer than WWI (4 years, 3 months and 2 weeks) It would if it could keep the fighting going at the current rates till 2026 June. But let's wait and see.

[@FlyingPanda150]

What do u know

[@mariajones8304]

Ukraine does not want to fight! Russia is attacking it! You suggest they should give up? Give up Alaska. It’s next by the way. You give up all your Allie’s then no one will there for you to fight Russia when time comes.

[@pindapoy1596]

@Nauda999 Yes, but Musk is totally wrong when he compares the trench war of WWI with what is happening in Ukraine today. The main difference is that the Russians are not interested in occupying territory; what they are doing is destroying the Ukrainian army and weaponry. This is actually the way that the Prussian General Von Clausewitz (end 1700)described the strategy of war. And Von Clausewitz's books are still studied today in major military academies.

[@djsharkdogg87]

I would love to be able to find the book he recommended! I vannot find it for the life of me

[@Littledunc1]

It's not World War 1 all over again tho is it. If you look at how fast/efficient the Russians took Mariupol. They have their land bridge they don't particulary need anymore of the land. They just want to peace out with what they have taken. Russia had relatively low loss taking what they wanted. And to say the Ukrainians will be look bad going on the offensive is just delsional I studied History and we do not Insult countries for literally defending themselves from Invasion.

[@givanildosouza6904]

it's not delusional, if you haven't figured out by now that continued fighting means more deaths and no rewards, then you should not be in a leadership position

[@sashaalex5476]

@@givanildosouza6904 Actualy Ukraine has no choise. Putin doesn't want any negotiations, he wants to pause to regroup and attack again.

[@krevetka9744]

He means that if Zelensky sends more troops to another failed counteroffensive - he will be remembered as the one who killed them via poor judgement, narrow vision and absurd stubbornness. We already see this kind of sentiment here and there. Same goes for Putin, because as you said, Russia basically achieved one of the major strategic goals, so further loss might be considered excessive.

[@user-nq7rd8lg3k]

@@krevetka9744 Martial law and mobilization have been extended in Ukraine: Zelensky signed the law

[@borymskyi]

🤣🤣😂🤣😂

[@hounddog1]

I understand Elon’s concern in general, but it is easy for him to be telling Ukrainians whether they should protect their homeland or not. Imagine around 15 states being annexed and occupied by let’s say Mexico or some other country, taking your citizens basically hostages, and some rich Ukrainian guy comes on TV and says: “Hey, fellow Americans, why do you keep fighting? Just stop the war. You’re losing the flower of your generation! Just let the aggressor have those territories, there’s not going to be much changes further on anyway.” I think Americans would rightfully shut him the f up.

[@twirlyturd4364]

Dude América literally couped Ukraine in 2014 go listen too the victoria Nuland tapes that were leaked they talk about installing Yatsenyuk into power under commands of joe Biden this was back in 2014, don’t forget the Odessa massacre were 55 Russian protestors were beaten too death and burned alive by goverment backed fascist thugs, too say this an unprovoked war is just absolutely nonsense the CIA stuck its fingers in the hornets nest at the behest of big corporations, wake up 🤦‍♂️

[@Intreductor]

"Those are the rightful territories of Mexico anyway before USA unjustly occupied them."

[@must654]

the difference is Usa has a power military and can win such an event, Russia also is a powerful Military, ukraine cant defeat Russia alone it depends on the aid of other mighty countries just to survive not defeat russia. in the end the world will forget about ukraine, after that what has ukraine gained? nothing but death.

[@spacesurfer2450]

Word. On a lighter note, would love to see his reaction if someone told him to hand over 20% of Teslas market share to Chinese carmakers.. “you know, pulling all those all nighters.. all the CapEx.. not worth the hassle.”

[@Lord.Schnitzel]

amen

[@dalamskdnfkdmsns]

Great ending line

[@mazenbatshonph.d.5457]

Simple and Clear

[@aleksandr8809]

Not true. You can't compare this to WW1. Totally different reasons and meanings.

[@tobberino]

Style of fighting is, trench warfare and artillery

[@kento7899]

Ultimate Turing test: two robots having a conversation and they can't tell if they're robots.

[@Kapuzinerkresse]

Ja !!!! Die Stimmung passt und die Stimmen ...

[@DaddyBLUE90S]

Elon’s home country went to crab because people didn’t fight, and now he expects Ukraine to do the same thing. as Anthony Blinken said, if Russia stops fighting the war stops if Ukraine stop fighting, Ukraine ceases to exist.

[@Ni_Del]

very true

[@wojciech6635]

Exactly! Elon wants Putin win. But if that happens, Putin will just invade another country.

[@lovyrituraj]

nobody cares about Ukraine stupid people, who told them to pick a fight with a nuclear power??

[@MeinungMann]

so good either way

[@hrissan]

Stupid words. Ukraine existed perfectly as a soviet republic. All industry including power stations steel works, werfen, aircraft industry, electronic and space rockets, everything was built by soviets. And 50+ millions Ukrainians lived quite well. What those words actually mean that new nazi western controlled threat 1 minute flight time from Moscow will cease to exist.

[@OlegRevulet]

I'd suggest you, US guys, just give Putin Alaska back. Interesting, what would happened if during the WW2, we lessened to same "ideas" like Elon has now?

[@vedser]

Putin is not controlling Alaska so there is nothing to talk about. during the WW2 - more lives would be saved.

[@SnakeHelah]

If we listened to Elon type of ideas in WW2, the Nazis and Soviets would have done so much more evil in the world. This pacifist attitude is something your enemy will use against you. My question is - how much is Elon getting paid to say this and how much this is his actual opinion?

[@OlegRevulet]

@@vedser short term yes, but having Hitler + Stalin in Europe for longer... We had only Stalin here, and he killed during peace time more than WW2 did. Ideally was if Allies killed Hitler and Stalin. For many countries kills finished with WW2, but in Central and Eastern Europe, as well some Central Asia countries, we know that the terror was here for decades and it is still present. But from that part of the ocean, you don't see and fill the entire picture as it doesn't affect you directly. Everybody know that EU and US and other countries citizens support Ukraine by paying taxes, so they governments can send weapons. What would you choose: fight with a weapon against terrorism or stay home and pay taxes. Northern Korea, no body kills people but is that a life to live for? Elon talks like this, as nobody is threatening his life or business and his businesses are well financed wit russian money. Westerns and US, looks to make the same mistake, only here people understand the Half Measures with such tyrants dos not work. Guess you know this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXOoZYSZrL1nmrc

[@HEBEcoin]

Well said

[@butter_nut1817]

Lex is naive to think that a "man to man" conversation will fix a massive geopolitical issue. Zelensky probably wont give an inch and Putin absolutely would not.

[@Jvksiew]

Scholar like Lex, very smart guy of course, but often has naïve view on the society

[@RMJerich0]

lol dude where are guys like you coming from? You dont even know the story of a conflict that goes like less than two years. Its not that hard

[@eachday5705]

​@@RMJerich0 It is more than nine, started with Crimea.

[@BackcountryFoilSurfing]

Real talk! Thanks Lex, Thanks Elon!

[@flyinghigh2701]

We all know elon play hoi4 in his spare time

[@bebop4874]

You can tell Elon has a lot of respect for Lex. I like that

[@CreativePublisher]

how can you tell? because i dont see any indicators for that

[@StheSharknl]

@@CreativePublisher Get some social skills and you will ;)

[@CreativePublisher]

okay but can you be so kind and provide me some examples in the videos as a starter?@@StheSharknl

[@notorious4204]

Yeah also with Joe it seems like he's goofing around and having fun but with Lex he has more complex and serious conversations

[@intheshell35ify]

​@@StheSharknljust wake up one day and decide to not be hateful for the entire day. Will you explode? Implode? Will you be ok?

[@user-lc9pt4kn9z]

Elon always recommends Ukraine stop fighting, but not Russia.

[@wenterinfaer1656]

Ilya Muskovich

[@mariajones8304]

Ridiculous. I thought he was smart

[@chrisnettos4749]

Ok he lost me when he said nobody has air superiority. The Russians have not classified this as a war and using a very small force for such a long and deep frontline while holding back the mobilisation force. The Russians are not atracking because their objectives have been taken, and they have destroyed four Ukranian armies to date.

[@abrantie]

These 2 deserves each other very well😊

[@VolodymyrBurmistr]

both idiots

[@zapfanzapfan]

Last time we had a great war on the continent, the invader wasn't stopped early on. This time it seems we have somewhat learned the lesson to not repeat the mistake. Putin nibbled on Georgia and Ukraine and we didn't do that much but at least we are doing something now to stop Putin attempting anschluss with the rest of Ukraine.

[@will201084]

Elon helping Putin

[@denisavdeev8148]

Sure, the complicated history of ossetians with the war in 80s, the nato expansion... had nothing to do with it. Just putins ambition. As for Ukraine, you guys overthrew a democratic government and installed a vassal government that has done more dame to Ukraine then Putin ever could.

[@FunnyBunny-pd5xx]

IF ? Elon Musk is helping President Putin I feel sure it is to try to bring a peaceful end to this conflict. Recently, I have come to the conclusion President Zelenskyy does NOT want this war to end. He is now FAMOUS, he's an actor 'All the world is a stage.....' In many ways he has exploited the war for his own name, forever in the history books.

[@0neKingD0wn]

Putin do not want Ukraine, he never did. If zelensky wasnt promised his ''throne'' and power from the west this war would never have happend. The west broke our promises , treaties we signed to provoke this thing. We are not the good guys in this, we havent been the good guys in a long long time.

[@zenster1097]

When idiots think they're experts because they learned the word "anschluss" but don't get that's it's completely different than what's going on now. They don't even know about the Austrian Civil War of 1934, and Austria was a Fascist dictatorship run by Fatherland Front's Dolfuss, before it was annexed. A July Putsch by Austrian National Socialists attempted overthrow the Fascist government which ultimately failed, however killed the dictator. The annexation was under the threat of war to which the Clerical Fascist government caved.

[@skynet000001]

Elon also leave out that Russia has exposed itself of having an outdated army.

[@mt8956]

We knew about corruption in the Russian army and that majority of their vehicles were Soviet era. Also we knew their training wasn’t good like NATO. Looks at the 2008 Georgia conflict. 2014 was a surprise since everything went smoothly. Also not even NATO vehicles can handle the javelin or some other western weapons. Other than that am amazed the Russian army still holding after so many flaws and odds stack against them.

[@Tvorogov1]

@@mt8956 So russia is not at war with NATO, russia is at war against a country with less resources and can do nothing but squeeze with meat. If Ukraine had been given the support in time and in the right amount, Russia would have been thrown out long ago and would have been left without an army.

[@mt8956]

@@Tvorogov1 Russia is in proxy war. NATO can easily defeat the Russian army. Also ever since the Obama administration Ukraine been getting weapons and training. Along side NATO nations about 30~35,000 Ukrainians were being trained each year and weapons sent to Ukraine. But people forget that Ukraine is very corrupt, also if Himars and other bigger weapons were sent earlier Russia would have gone in earlier. Ukraine was lucky to have thousands of already western trained soldiers and intelligence. Russia would have had the advantage if it would have gone in earlier and continued in 2015. But they were afraid, now they either go in or lose for ever in their history and generations to come.

[@after_midnight9592]

The advantage they have and always had, they don't care how many of their soldiers die. If America would lose 100000 troops it would be a disaster in losses. Putin is prepared to sacrifice another million in a blink of an eye, if it leads to a win.

[@mindasb]

@@Tvorogov1 That's the thing. We in the west are so proud of our support for Ukraine, but in my mind ti was way slow and way to little.

[@Matt-es1wn]

That felt very genuine from both

[@MaxHarden]

Musk and Lex to the front lines!

[@tonygold1661]

Uncommon sense from Musk as (nearly) always.

[@landotter]

scary reality in modern warfare.

[@axelk6521]

Military advice from Elon🤣

[@BaronMagick]

Military advice from anyone on the internet 😹

[@SnakeHelah]

Milsim gamers that do war in their mom's basement 24/7 will be more sound than Elon when it comes to this.@@BaronMagick

[@wojciech6635]

Yes... In other words, if someone beats your son, you should advise him to stop defending himself, instead of stopping the attacker. Pure "genius".

[@edgepixel8467]

Hey, the warmongering bots come out of their box, anytime anyone goes against the official agenda.

[@canadianscraggledog]

Right on

[@ImaginaryFrend]

What the hell does Musk know about warfare LOL Talking like he graduated from West Point

[@eachday5705]

In our distant village, there is a proverb "Ne sutor supra crepidam judicet" translates to "Let the cobbler not judge above the sandal." It means that someone should not give opinions or advice on matters beyond their expertise.

[@uazuazu]

Yes, exactly. Even I can see that it's clueless to compare it to WWI. The whole Twitter thing too. Elon should stick with what he knows best. People put him on a platform as a generalist genius instead of the specialist genius that he is, and then he ends up making a fool of himself. Stick to what you know!

[@oldmanemptyhouse7659]

Lol that's like saying you can't have a opinion on what Elon does unless your a billionaire.

[@etherwolf8674]

@@uazuazuThe fact that he even bought and joined twitter should show his flawed thought process. The fact that he managed to drive down the value of a well estabilished brand and business down 50% from when he bought it should further provide evidence that he is a specialist, and that it's extremely likely that he's just a dumb as a below-average human in every other area. And to be honest, I've seen the same happen first-hand in my immediate vicinity. Saw the same thing of a "specialist genius" become a multi-millionaire and start multiple ventures that are now failing violently as he and those around him realize that he was good in a couple technical skills, and a below-average (enough to be dangerous) in anything outside that.

[@irresistablejewel]

I agree: Musk is a manufacturer; comes up with some inventive products, likely has better relations with China, than America, because manufacturing is what they do to; but when it comes to the Ukrainian conflict he's guessing. I share his concern that robots are increasingly being used as: police; soldiers, or judges (computer says no!); it's a dangerous misuse of a useful technology and if science fiction is any indication, it ends very badly. Since the map hasn't moved (much) in well over a year; it seems clear what Russia wants and there will be no further peace negotiations (I believe they said), the talking has stopped. I don't think this is like WW1, or WW2; but it might yet start WW3 (which won't last long).

[@traviswadezinn]

Engaging insights - human viewpoint worth taking seriously

[@project_X_design]

Drone technology should be explored more in terms of close range military arsenal. I think it has alot of potential if we didn't just take consumer drones and stick grenades on them.

[@ushiefreebird7470]

Wow. There is another saying, that 'old men are the worst enemy of young men'...........

[@lind3r]

so what is the proposed solution? He basically said just don't die

[@verdox0]

best way to describe it is, if someone is robbing you dont fight back because you might get hurt and u might hurt the robber so its better to give all your life savings to the robber. he doesnt understand that ukranians dont have a choice to stop fighting but russia does

[@intheshell35ify]

I can see the years of running wide open accumulating on Musk's face. He should pace himself at this point in his life because he doesn't have a successor. We need 30 more years from him.

[@nodarikirtadze8220]

We don't need him

[@intheshell35ify]

@@nodarikirtadze8220 then drop a name. Tell us who else is dragging tons of crap into orbit.

[@levernallanbowles4093]

I admire Elon Musks business achievements, but his geopolitical perspective leaves much to be desired.

[@airconditionedrelco7099]

flexible warfare is way more deadly trenches are controlled enviornment trench warfare is just way harder to break and more costly

[@Razear]

There's no room for a truce or a ceasefire if the aggressor is hellbent on conquest and has completely dismissed the possibility of diplomacy.

[@flipadavis]

Oh, I'm sure they would be quite ready for peace talks. Their demands would be to keep all the land they currently occupy. Then that would buy them plenty of time to continue to implement and cement complete and permanent control politically of the oblasts they control. The more time that passes the more the local population will give up and accept defeat and the children living under occupation will identify as Russian making it harder to liberate as time passes. It will also give Russia more time to rebuilt their crumbling military capabilities and dig in even more on the frontlines. Then in a 4 years or so when they have made the proper preparations, they come up with another bullshit reason to continue to invade Ukraine just like in 2014 and 2020. What's anyone going to do about it?

[@SnakeHelah]

If the West keeps supporting Ukrainian war efforts the Russians will eventually collapse internally. Once that happens Ukraine should be able to bounce back in full force. I don't see how the Russians can keep this up if the US continues to support Ukraine. Unless of course there's a new conflict that completely changes the dynamic.

[@darshuetube]

yeah, but then you should not defend your country then? the question whether it is something worth fighting and dying for. Agreed that it sucks that the top guy decided to invade. the little guys have to fight to the death.... but then if you get slapped on the left cheek, turn the right cheek? is that the right response or then you have to turn the left cheek again, then right then left....? hard tough decision....

[@anpakkut]

I think we should look into the possibility of using AI in formulating solutions for this tough issue of Israel vs. Palestine, when all sides are deeply biased and emotional and not able to find rational peaceful outcomes.

[@mustang607]

Almost nobody wants war, except those that firmly believe in degrowth.

[@Intentspunk19]

"Just let Russia have what they want. History will look down on Russia don't worry. For real, dumb. You smack the bully when he hits you." - Elon Musk.

[@pooface-um4zo]

WOW, the ending, so deep. Im into it.

[@jaspersaberi2469]

Once again, thoughtful response by Musk, esp defense vs offense. However, he loses me when he advocates Zelensky to not send soldiers to the trenches. What is the alternative? Any peace that concedes land to Russia will not stop future aggression. This is a war of attrition now and will continue until one side does not believe they can persist longer than the other side.

[@MeinungMann]

Well there were peace talks that Americans and Britons stalled. Also the only reason why Russia initiated the war was Ukraine's idiotic and outrageous (for Russia) desire to join NATO. Have they stood still, there would be no war. But the West instigated the war. Watch Mearsheimer lecture about Ukraine in 2015. It's all western fault

[@hrissan]

Ukraine had an option to implement Minsk agreements (and keep all territory except Crimea), but as Poroshenko, Merkel and Holland all separately admitted, the time was used to pump Ukraine with weapons and training for war with Russia. Another option was to sign Istanbul agreements in March 2022, but West derailed those, as high Ukrainian official admitted Boris Johnson came and said “we will sign nothing and simply fight”. US military industry “earning” huge sums is what prevents peace.

[@Bamsebud]

​@@hrissan Putin has no interest of peace. He dosent accept Ukraine being a state anymore. In the end what it comes down to is that Putin theoretically is a prime example of a geopolitical neo-realist. He belives in watfare and "surivial of the fittest" and that russia and therby himself exist in a anarchic global world. Ukraines closer ties to the west during the past years has post an existential threat to Putin, as NATO and the EU are closing in on him. His realist theoretical approach to governing his state is probematic if we as an civilisation want to prosper and find trust between states, and foster greater alliances and trade aggreements in the like of the EU. The EU is not perfect but it has played an enormous role in securing it's member states from hostile actions relative to each others, and have helped foster economic and social wellbeing in internaly, but allso outside the EU.

[@nesirosern8596]

The alternative is to sit and negotiate. Yes, Ukraine would have to give up some territory and agree not to enter NATO, but this is much better than killing its entire population, destroying its cities and potentially provoking a Third World War. Also Ukraine is not that innocent in this war. For years the Russian population in Ukraine has been discriminated against and in other regions killed by Ukrainian Neo-Nazis with the support of the government in Kiev. There were Minsk agreements which if they had been honoured we would not have this war today. Not to mention that Putin has been talking about how NATO is a threat to Russia and he would not accept Ukraine being in NATO since 2007. So there was a lot that could have been done to avoid the war and now Zelensky can stop the war by negotiating. Putin is open for negotiations as he has said many times

[@TheWarmcoldsurfer]

Musk should fokus on othet things. If not. Visit the people in the war area. Ask them

[@deenaurdunya01]

What a diplomate person.

[@ThaFunkster100]

Talking to Putin is all well and good, but it takes two sides to make a peace deal. I think the only peace deal Putin will be interested in is if Ukraine hands their entire country over to him. There is no acceptable compromise for either side.

[@madeline5188]

I was never the biggest fan of Musk but it is comforting to see that he takes on a pacifist role and talk about the loss of human lives in the situations we see now in Ukraine and Gaza. Everyone else talks about the righteousness of their side and Must actually talks about not sacrificing the lives of the young generation. Huge respect.

[@ruskyhusky69]

💯 👍 agree. I didn't like his " we can coup whoever we want"

[@nsevv]

Exactly russia must be stopped at all cost at killing humans.

[@wp9860]

What Musk is talking about is securing his Russian supply lines for his automobile production. The sentiment is theater.

[@michaelroberts1862]

@@wp9860 clown comment.

[@user-nq7rd8lg3k]

young generation 40-60 years old ???.Or the prisoners who are in prison.

[@jurgbalt]

Elon to Ukraine: sing another peace with RU it will be 4th since 2014 - this time for sure RU will respect it and forget about the war crimes RU just did to your people in your land - just move on, it is not like RU will do similar shyte once RU rebuild the army in few years

[@LeviKerrison]

Ukraine started this shit dude. Not Russia

[@w4t4h4]

4th? ukraine signed minsk regulations then didn't give a shit about complying with them

[@Intreductor]

@@w4t4h4 neither did Russia. Girkin vioilated it as soon it was signed.

[@w4t4h4]

@@Intreductor So maybe the solution to the problem is to force both sides to comply with the new regulations, instead of pitting one against the other? girkin is not a russian, he is a donbass rebel, I suggest you learn more deeply about the topic instead of babbling

[@Intreductor]

@@w4t4h4 Donbass rebel who just happened to be an FSB agent and was declaring he would run for president of Russia. Go figure...

[@garthbews4863]

if no push back..move ahead..fool not me see clearly..steps towards

[@krunoslavzelko9320]

What's the point of that ... best line ever

[@pja8901]

Zelenskyy's Ukraine is currently caught in a costly standoff with Russia, relying only on the current military assistance from the West to maintain its position. However, the West's commitment to supporting such conflicts can be unpredictable and short-lived. Putin, being aware of this, doesn't necessarily need to achieve a breakthrough on the frontlines; he just needs to wait until the Western taxpayers lose interest. In the meantime, he can continue to deploy prisoners and conscripts on the frontlines. The West will soon find other distractions, such as a recession or conflicts in the Middle East. Zelenskyy is stubborn, and should consider seeking a diplomatic solution to avoid being remembered for his refusal to do so.

[@wikingagresor]

Zelensky knows, that an armistice is just prolonging things into the future. Russia's defense doctrine requires that Ukraine it is under their control.

[@davidradtke160]

His people won’t let him. They won’t stop fighting if aid ends.

[@XYZ-pz3tf]

" should consider a diplomatic solution"--> Ukraine no longer existing. Everyone keeps saying " diplomatic solution" but when you ask them to give more details, they have none. You mean like the diplomatic solution from.the 90's or the one from.2014-2015? Because those worked well, right?

[@Dielytris]

"Stop sending young Ukrainians to die, Musk tells Zelensky" - Today's top RT headline.

[@user-nq7rd8lg3k]

What does Zelensky have to do with it if people go to protect their home and family.I didn’t say that 40-60 years old is young.Greetings from Ukraine, Dnepropetrovsk city.

[@AngryEwok]

Or maybe russia should just go away from Ukraine and stop the war that they started?

[@user-nq7rd8lg3k]

@@AngryEwok 100%

[@SnakeHelah]

Yeah also it's definitely Zelensky telling foreign legions to come fight for Ukraine lol. Totally not their own volition. See, Musk already removes all agency to Ukraine. It's really funny how much both the right and left of the US politics love to do that to anything outside the US.@@user-nq7rd8lg3k

[@GDStudija]

He’s sadly right, but there is more. What happens when big powers realize that they can “sprint” attack and what they manage to advance is stale mate? What will happen in world? What message it gives? That’s the main thing. Many small countries are doomed. Mine is doomed. Is this what is acceptable for you?

[@ikajakonia8009]

why d'you say: "whoever goes offensive, will loose massive number of people"? when everyone knows, that Ukraine is only defending its territories and its people! you must be more accurate with your words, because of being one of the world leaders!

[@ThexBorg]

Russian losses in Avdiivka are almost 10 to 1.

[@Yutani_Crayven]

And Ukraine has fewer losses than Russia even when attacking. There doesn't need to be a stalemate, either. Time to give Ukraine more tools so that it can assert full artillery, drone & air superiority over Russia. It's half way there already, and Russia is already resorting to buying back arms that it had sold to other nations in decades past.

[@after_midnight9592]

They don't care. If it takes a million dead to take over the city, they will do it.

[@purple.requiem]

Where is your source from? Western media?

[@what4288]

@@purple.requiemI mean after looking at the footage of failed Russian assaults on Avdiivka I honestly wouldn’t be surprised.

[@birdstrikes]

Love what you did with Twitter, the Boring Tunnels and the Cybertruck. Keep it up!

[@Nycku007]

move on , focus on ur family.. and fuck twitter and cybertruck

[@ClimateScepticSceptic-ub2rg]

Yes! I always hated Twitter, too.

[@AJGeologyRocks]

Very easy for Musk to say this from the comfort of his sheltered existence in America.

[@simplyemily8251]

They/them

[@lastfreemen]

Is there something he said that you have a problem with ? Because if you're saying it as an objective observation, i could say to you, it's very easy for you to comment on this video in your sheltered existence in the UK ? lmao? ??

[@0doroblo]

​@@lastfreemen his statements about the war in Ukraine show how ignorant he is, but his words have power because his rich and influential. He is neither a politician nor a ukrainian to tell us what we should and should not do to protect ourselves.

[@lastfreemen]

​@@0doroblo You're being very vague... Which words specifically?

[@0doroblo]

@@lastfreemen you want me to send you time code or what? 3:28 - 'sympathy for russian boys' Whereas this 'flower of the nation' is people convicted of crimes in their own country who, thanks to their participation in the war, can be released from serving their sentences. And he says that it's not the russians who hate ukrainians and came to kill us, but simply old men in government who send them. Meanwhile these soldiers raped and killed thousands of people. After de-occupation of Kharkiv, Kyiv and Kherson regions, mass graves were discovered. Civilians. Women, children, men. With their hands tied behind their backs and shots to the back and head. With traces of violence. Musk's statement justifies these war-criminals, and that's not only ignorant, but also dangerous and harmful.

[@peace-to-the-world]

Peace to the whole World from Ukraine Listen to the lyrics of "Sly and family Stone - Everyday people"

[@samansiddiquie1902]

3:54 this

[@eachday5705]

Ne sutor supra crepidam judicet" translates to "Let the cobbler not judge above the sandal." It means that someone should not give opinions or advice on matters beyond their expertise.

[@hadriusreznor3247]

Newsflash, he is above the sandal, enjoy your BS with salt pal!

[@eachday5705]

​ What are you talking about, buddy? Musk just glanced above the sandal and immediately wet his pants out of fear.

[@user-nz8kq9vf9i]

And what expertise should he or anyone have to value human life the most? Not territories, not "accepted borders", but life of young people and their unborn children? Why would anyone want a victory with a price of no one living there in 20 years?

[@eachday5705]

@@user-nz8kq9vf9i Crying about victims, especially children, can be done by any fool. Musk may be a good engineer, but he's no philosopher or military expert. Musk lacks a vision for the future, and those whispering in his ear don't offer any new meanings. Peace initiatives from that side don't withstand any criticism.

[@SnakeHelah]

It's called fighting for ideals. For something more than yourself. In war, individualism flies out the window and the collective takes over. The collective of Ukraine wants to defend their homeland and protect their country against the Russian invader. And war has a cost/toll of human life, universally. I wouldn't expect some American sitting in their own continent far away from imperialistic neighbors to understand. @@user-nz8kq9vf9i

[@murryburnett2562]

Good sir well spoken and your comment about young men dying for old men who know each other is pure wisdom. Thank you for the bluntness

[@jessiebenton5110]

I don’t understand why anyone would want a war for what money? Earths resources that aren’t anyone’s to fight over anyways smh it’s so immature and pointless and the kids and young men that are fighting them do they ever think of them? Whoever calls for a war should be right there at the front line leading not sitting in a comfortable office somehwere caring nothing about the ones being hurt killed like why I just don’t understand it

[@tillmanxl6914]

Andrew Anglin sent me it's 11-11-23 😊👍🏻

[@David-Dingo]

Elon Musk the real life James Bond villain, not the real life Tony Stark Ironman

[@samuelbell626]

It's strange they didn't touch on the fact that Russia invaded Ukraine, and that the Ukrainian boys are dieing while fighting to protect themselves and their families.

[@friedrichhoffmann4248]

Mr Musk you can always give your own land (or company) to ruzzia. ruzzian boys go to Ukraine for $

[@nskies2001]

Semyon Ovechkin has realised himself as a highly weighted neuron, that has a lot of inputs, a lot of outputs and has very unbiased views, and is inside of a higher order neural network of the whole planet, including other artificial intelligence and animals

[@maxpokrasov]

What about russian aggression? What about Putin and his wish of denazification or whatever? How is it possible to say that Ukrainians should give up and probably become prisoners in their own country?

[@i34g5jj5ssx]

How about you stop your fantasies and damn read what Russia has been asking for since 2014?

[@Easore]

He did not say that at all.

[@SnakeHelah]

What is his argument/implication then? Elon's rhetoric over Ukraine is something that is just mind blowing to me considering his "intellectual" status. He's either paid by the Russians to keep this opinion or is just completely lost it. I can overlook some of his more crazy takes but not this one.@@Easore

[@Easore]

@@SnakeHelah since when is pacifism pro russian? Did he not supply ukraine instead of russia? Obvious he does not want russia to win. Do you remember when he wrote on twitter that he wanted to kick Putin? However he might be right as the front line has not moved much. If this continues its only a waste of lives and negotiations might have a chance. He did not say that he liked that Ukraine would loose its terrain. And i sure hope Ukraine will kick russia out of their territory. But at some point there will be war fatigue on both sides

[@dominykasrimsa7703]

Both Lex and Elon seem smart and inspiring until they start talking Ukraine and Russia. Appeasement at the highest level.

[@lukeatbrandynightful]

They’re just talking facts, Ukraine can’t take back what Russia took, and Russia can’t take anything more than they’ve took, so what’s the point in carrying on?

[@pageek3487]

@@lukeatbrandynightfulto send a message that Russia can not pick another country to invade tomorrow.

[@DanielJanzon]

@@pageek3487 Exactly, and to not let Russia build up new capacity to take yet another piece of territory a few years from now.

[@lukeatbrandynightful]

@@pageek3487 and that’s Elons point no? Sending a message by 100,000 of proper dying without any change in the war

[@SnakeHelah]

The point is if Ukraine stops Russia goes forward. And it wants to go forward beyond Ukraine. So you can understand why all these countries are propping up Ukraine to push back the Russian invaders.@@lukeatbrandynightful

[@bun4uk]

Tovarisch Podpolkovnik Ilon Muscov

[@lee85gavaz]

He is a great speaker 😂🎉, did you smoke some "think"? 😅

[@denisavdeev8148]

Im afraid its worst and more tragic then this. Most of the officers do know eachother. They went to the same military schools, many of them are related. There are pilots who are bom ing the towns they were born in, that they have their mother and father living in. The ethnic devisuon between russians and ukranians is trivial at best, for most none existant.

[@bun4uk]

So his name is Ivan, not Elon

[@will201084]

Ivan Musky

[@bun4uk]

@@will201084 Muskov

[@gpn854]

The people want to test their courage and their new War Machines . Killing machines .

[@BG-kd1ok]

I want to see how you will talk about Putin if he would annexed Alaska and half of California. Just say no problem we still have 48 1/2 states

[@michaelkearney576]

An end in on current lines would not be an end. It would restart as soon as Putin has rebuilt his military. As per every other conflict he’s started. Ukrainian (with assistance) need to end this cycle.

[@freeloader247]

LoL. Bigbrain post right here!

[@damilareowosangba7864]

🤦..you are hopelessly ignorant

[@julianongpin1336]

​@@freeloader247one of the heroes! Lmao

[@LeviKerrison]

Western propaganda man. Ukraine started this shit and Putin tried to prevent it.

[@tonkiton122]

I don’t think Putin will repeat this. He expected a quick breakthrough, but got stuck in a protracted war. I think that he will want to live the rest of his biological life without such risks.

[@yeshua64]

I'm surprised he didn't call zelensky a nązî drug addict.

[@SBU_007]

Ye but he is OUR nazi drug addict ❤

[@tomwilliams5832]

He most likely is tbh

[@Intreductor]

@@tomwilliams5832 how so? Most people knew nothing of Zelensky prior to 2022 and suddenly they are experts.

[@ManoMonikas]

@@tomwilliams5832 you like to eat russian propaganda with full spoons i see

[@Ebb0Productions]

Ah yes, the Jewish Nazi narrative. Good one Kremlin. Very funny.

[@allvano]

Sent the old guys that know each other to the front lines? Problem solved and let the young guys have families.

[@salvo5108]

Yeah I see your point Elon, but look at the s&p? Ratheon and boeing are through the roof baby! We still gotta ride the ride you know? (Satura quidem tota nostra est)

[@novakproperties]

Elon mumbles through this whole clip and really says nothing. The more I hear him speak, the more I see a man, born into wealth, who majestically failed upwards.

[@danesha4705]

Because you want to see it like that way, you hate him, that's it

[@Orken1]

Oh the jealousy

[@sleepkeeper42069]

Elon thinks on the level of sobering reality. Thank god there is sanity in one of the most powerful and well listened to individuals on this planet.

[@user-cu7ig6bf1x]

Actually he doesn't have a smallest clue what he's talking about. Seems like he is already departed to mars at least mentally. Which is understandable meaning his mental health issues

[@hugerichard4661]

Have you read his 30 IQ peace plan? He is just wants to appease putler by giving away pieces of Ukrainian homeland... god muskrat fans are braindead

[@xpusostomos]

Ok... What bits of the United states would he give up?

[@youknowwhatlol6628]

"Ah...we're for peace! We don't war war! Peaaaaaceeee!!! ~uwu~" no. it doesnt' work like this. I'm from Ukraine and i can tell you - it's either us or them. If it's a stallmate, it's them. If it's not, it's us.

[@SnakeHelah]

Definitely. Musk is either getting russian checks for propagating these points or just a naive idiot who thinks you can make peace talks while they're shelling your civilians.

[@szczepaniakgrzegorz-gy5le]

With all respect to mr. Musk. To become a military expert you have to read much more books than "World War I in details". And I suggest being more humble and admit that You don't know some things rather than "as I predicted" approach. I guess Generals don't know how to create an electric car and run a company, and mr. Musk don't have any particular knowlege about running a war.

[@wp9860]

Why call him Mr. Musk rather than a-hole?

[@worththewatch1517]

Yeah. Probably You and other voters have some expertise on military that keep voting for war mongers to be your leaders 😂

[@mrbigolnuts3041]

Musk isn't losing anything, he loses nothing