Elon Musk SHOCKED About The Reason Tesla Semi Fire! Shuts Down Highway 16 hours ! What's Happened?

[@orchidhouse297]

The gas cloud produced consists -- 50% carbon monoxide 10 to 20% carbon dioxide hydrophic acid gas, hydrochloric acid gas, hydrogen cyanide, around 10% ethane. The ethane vents small droplets of the organic solvent and what you've got there is a very volatile explosive vapour Cloud. It is not smoke!

[@patricksteven92]

The environmental consequences of such fires are alarming. Tesla needs to take immediate steps to prevent future incidents.

[@user-of1hi1fl6x]

I'm surprised that the video didn't address the issue of why a truck that is capable of fully autonomous highway driving would crash due to a driver that fell asleep.

[@TeslaCarWorld]

Tesla semi doesn't have FSD yet but the driver falling asleep causing the big rig to crash means he was asleep for a moment with his hands on the wheel, do you understand this?

[@user-of1hi1fl6x]

​@@TeslaCarWorld Upon additional thought, I'm not sure that I understand this comment. What would have happened if his hands WEREN'T on the wheel when he fell asleep? Would the truck have stayed in the lane and possibly vibrated the wheel to wake the driver?

[@ramonvargas5928]

You're ahead of yourself, assuming the semi had the technology, it has to first be activated by the driver! Well, if the driver is asleep, it's not going to happen! Now if the Semi was self-aware, it would notice the driver was falling asleep and take over because the Semi would not want to die, sadly, we're not there yet!

[@user-of1hi1fl6x]

​@@ramonvargas5928 My bad. I assumed that the Tesla semi had the same basic safety technology of almost all automobiles being sold today. Lane centering and notification (warning/vibration) of drift from center of lane.

[@jonvanbrunning4294]

It has the capability, and does have lane departure and assists, but Autopilot is not enabled at all. I don't think any Class D trucks offer the same creature comforts that traditional vehicles offer. Asside from Tesla, they are basically all manual transmission with often over 20 gears. Tesla's advertised features for the Semi that are already available are AEB which ID only good if you have the stopping distance. Lane departure alert or avoidance,which was likely off, and Jack knife avoidance that doesn't apply. Unfortunately, Autopilot is only being validated right now on the Semi, which is sad because that would have prevented this incident entirely.

[@gerrypagan3261]

As a Firefighter of 24 years I've lost count how many car ICE car/truck motor vehicle accidents and fires we've responded to. When the contents of motor oil, radiator fluids and other fluids escape, they are simply covered with sand and left behind. DEEP is notified, but those chemicals are left behind. Unfortunately, other vehicles will run over that sand mixed with those oils, etc., it eventually rains and it just goes into our road drains, which most lead into local rivers. 😑

[@kenik2023]

I've been working on cars for 30 years... I was trained and prepped to work on EV's. I've seen 3 ICE fires started by outside influences crashes/spills straight up being flamed on. I have never seen one spontaneously combust like the 7 EV fires I've witnessed so far.... Including the "safe blade battery" one I just ran across at a friends body shop one day 😂

[@Karl-Benny]

Well that is world Data that need`s to be calculated

[@jayj6770]

Why not put a "FDC" Fire Department Connector on the pack to flood the internals of the battery rather than just spraying the outside?

[@countryjoe3551]

You're not going to be able to get near a burning EV to hook up a hose.

[@petersandberg1652]

@@countryjoe3551If it is located inside the frunk and using a robot type those for disarming bombs it could be possible.

[@asokawhite]

@@petersandberg1652 Na no chance, a battery burn way to hot, around 2000C this means it would proberbly melt before it could by used. Europe uses Swap Body trucks with special containers to put this cars litterly underwater.

[@robertsmith2956]

hmmm, I don't know. It would MELT?

[@ragrle]

I watched a gas engine car catch fire, it took the fire department 5 seconds to put the fire out. One EV caught fire in a parking garage every car burned up. 🚫

[@recoilrob324]

Right....I dispute the claim that EV's are multiples less likely to catch fire than ICE. Considering how many ICE vehicles are on the road vs the tiny percentage of EV's....their fire numbers cannot be looked at as a whole. Also MOST of the ICE fires are caused by defects that are easy to fix....once known about a recall solves the problem. But the fire issue with EV's isn't something that is easily solved so they're still building these vehicles that literally are ticking time bombs that nobody knows if or when they'll go off.

[@kazuu_777]

There is a study that shows gasoline cars have more than 60 times the fire incident rate compared to BEVs. Logically, BEVs are safer."

[@recoilrob324]

@@kazuu_777 Mark Twain once said 'There are three kinds of lies. Lies, damned lies....and statistics'. Considering how many millions of ICE vehicles are on the roads and how old many of them are....comparing fire statistics from them and recently produced EV's isn't a valid comparison. ICE vehicles that catch fire ALWAYS have a defect that the owner should be able to notice...like gas fumes from leaking fuel system fittings. EV's...? Not so much warning so trying to argue that they're 60-100 times less likely to catch fire is not telling the truth.

[@kazuu_777]

@@recoilrob324 Even though BEVs are relatively new, that alone doesn't justify a fire incident rate over 60 times higher. Or is there data suggesting that internal combustion engine cars suddenly experience a massive spike in fire incidents after a certain number of years or mileage?

[@recoilrob324]

@@kazuu_777 Fire statistics are only valid if they're comparing vehicles of equal age. The '60x higher' is BS printed to give people like you ammunition to counter the obvious problem of EV batteries going thermonuclear whenever they feel like it with NO warning. Age of vehicle equates to mileage and defects more likely to show up as things deteriorate. So comparing less than 5 year old vehicles to 20+ isn't fair in the least. Not to mention owner neglect and ignorance is responsible for the VAST majority of ICE fires. Without proper maintenance the engines can begin to misfire...and unless the ECU shuts of the injection to the misfiring cylinder/s (which lots of older vehicles cannot do) the raw fuel gets pumped into the catalytic converters which then overheat and set the car on fire. TOTALLY avoidable.....unlike the EV fires. And easily extinguished which is a very distressing thing about EV fires....what would be a small thing if an ICE caught fire ends up taking out entire car lots (or ships) when EV's light up. So...next time you see the '60x more likely to catch fire'....look to see who generated the article which is trying desperately to mislead the public about how dangerous EV's actually are.

[@algerszug]

This video is a stark reminder of the potential dangers of EV batteries.

[@tedoptional-p8l]

Actually it is a stark reminder of dangers of ICE cars since they are 5 to 15 times more dangerous not including the 1 million they kill from breathing exhaust every year. (Compared to a Tesla).

[@TeslaCarWorld]

Thank you, our episode serves as a powerful reminder of the potential dangers associated with EV batteries. While electric vehicles offer numerous benefits, incidents like this highlight the importance of understanding and addressing the risks involved.

[@malcolmrickarby2313]

@@TeslaCarWorldyou used the word toxic over and over again. Compare to the burning of any other vehicle. All of them are very toxic but I have never seen any information on what actually is different in battery fires apart from difficulty to extinguish . Such a crash it is amazing that the driver has survived ! 😮

[@dennisknehans3206]

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[@philsam4913]

If you look at the technology of Tesla battery packs on the latest Cybertruck teardown on Munro Live series on KZbin you'll be surprised at the amount of safety measures throughout EVERY battery pack including cooling system,release valves and the most amazing bit was seeing only a few batteries can ignite and the system design shuts off any more chance of the other batteries catching fire, I've never seen anything else like it! It's worth watching.

[@tedoptional-p8l]

I never read a story half full of bull and half full of truth before! Congratulations!

[@maxhugen]

@@CmyMaisy _"a dork dofus"_ ? _"threatened by women"_ ? You sound like what Trump calls his supporters: ‘basement dwellers’. Maybe you just need a clean diaper.

[@geoffreybailey3512]

This is the kind of garbage Tucker went through, but this time Elon Musk beat the fix.

[@bo2.4u6]

He said the truck ran head on into a tree. ON THE HIGHWAY!!

[@WOFFY-qc9te]

@@bo2.4u6 I know it is difficult for some to see the truth from the trees but right next to the highway is a plantation of trees. ergo it is entirely possible that the truck hit a tree. He also said the driver may have fallen asleep,

[@SatrudhanKumar-cb9bp]

This highlights the need for more research into safer battery technologies.

[@TeslaCarWorld]

Absolutely. Incidents like these underscore the urgent need for more research into safer battery technologies. Advancements in battery design that focus on improving stability, reducing flammability, and enhancing overall safety can help mitigate risks and make electric vehicles even more reliable. Investing in new technologies and materials will be crucial for addressing these challenges and ensuring the future safety of EVs.

[@tedoptional-p8l]

@@TeslaCarWorld You neglect the facts, the more energy you store in a given place, the more the danger. That's why gas powered vehicles are so dangerous.

[@244col]

​@@tedoptional-p8lICE diesel semis are extremely hard to get alight due to the fuel type. Any semis that do ignite are generally the result of an electrical fault due to an accident. Diesel burns slow compared to lithium and cooler. An ICE fire can be extinguished far quicker and with allot less resources. 1 out of 100 tesla semis burnt to nothing has to be of concern when considering the thousands of ICE semis of the same manufactured year on the road and their stats in relation to a total loss in a crash where it may catch fire.

[@sansabh]

100 is just out of the paddock ​@@244col

[@harveypaxton1232]

The truck was on fire before the crash according to passing drivers. It’s funny how the initial news report from the Sacramento news stations are not available on line anymore. By 8 am they were already reporting the driver fell asleep yet the CHP PIO was stating it was too early to state cause. Hmmmm

[@razoraz]

Spontaneous combustion of the batteries (maybe because something punctured them) is the scariest idea. No real accident needed and all the sudden your vehicle is exploding. There are a ton of videos out there of Chinese EVs doing this, for example.

[@malcolmrickarby2313]

Something very fishy about the whole story 🐟🐡🐠!

[@sunahamanagai9039]

If a hundred were built and one already caught fire, that seems like a pretty high percentage.

[@geoffreybailey3512]

It doesn't matter how many were built if someone drives it into a tree.

[@stanmitchell3375]

Lfp and sodium is fire resistant

[@ellapati16]

The environmental impact of this fire is unacceptable.

[@tedoptional-p8l]

So you are against saving peoples lives?

[@snakepliskinsnake]

​@@tedoptional-p8ltell that to forced child labor where Elon gets his lithium and cobalt in third world countries.

[@Hugo-py2ce]

Get out of here.

[@TeslaCarWorld]

While we love the Tesla Semi and have always had a soft spot for it, there's no denying that the environmental impact of the fire is indeed concerning. When a lithium-ion battery catches fire, it releases toxic fumes and chemicals that can harm both the air quality and the surrounding environment. Additionally, the water used to extinguish the fire can become contaminated, seeping into the soil and potentially affecting groundwater. This incident highlights the need for stricter safety measures in battery design and better methods for dealing with such fires to minimize their environmental footprint. It's crucial that the industry continues to innovate not just for performance but also for safety and environmental protection.

[@MarkisFamily]

Why only Tesla? Is the environmental impact of any fire therefore unacceptable?

[@nebraskathompson32]

Im concerned about the potential long-term health effects of the toxic fumes.

[@gdutfulkbhh7537]

You're right to worry.

[@malcolmrickarby2313]

You are a bit late for that! Better address your concerns to the fossil fuel companies that have existing long term health effects on every aspect of life on earth.😮

[@Tom-dt4ic]

And yet you've been sucking in diesel all your life with nary a tweet.

[@extremedrivr]

​@@malcolmrickarby2313 No.. EV's need to be burried in ⚰ for good. We obviously didn't learn from 150 years ago as to why this technology doesn't work on mass scale.

[@jeffreywalker73]

The firefighters dedication and bravery are truly admirable.

[@kieusigmund]

I hope Tesla is transparent about the cause of the fire and the steps theyre taking to prevent future incidents.

[@TeslaCarWorld]

we share your hope. Transparency about the cause of the fire and the measures Tesla is implementing to prevent future incidents will be crucial for maintaining trust and improving safety. It’s important for Tesla to provide clear information and updates to address any concerns and ensure that similar issues are managed effectively.

[@tedoptional-p8l]

Tesla is working on replacing the main cause of accidents, the driver. This will save trillions of dollars per year. (Well maybe hundreds of millions). We only have to save 40,000 deaths per year to reach no deaths from auto accidents in the U.S.

[@EricThompson-g8f]

Im worried about the potential for similar incidents in the future.

[@finntiet]

This video underscores the importance of safety in the EV industry.

[@TeslaCarWorld]

You're absolutely right. The incident underscores the critical importance of safety in the EV industry. As electric vehicles become more prevalent, ensuring the safety of their battery systems, both in design and emergency response, is paramount. The Tesla Semi fire serves as a reminder that while EV technology offers numerous benefits, it also demands rigorous safety standards and ongoing research to mitigate risks, especially in extreme situations like accidents. Thank you

[@Daisygaming192]

Does Tesla have a plan in place for dealing with battery fires in the future?

[@stevemarquardt3217]

It will be the same as ICE vehicles [which have been killing people for a hundred years] - NONE!

[@TeslaCarWorld]

Yes, Tesla is actively working on improving safety measures for battery fires. They continually research and develop better battery technology and safety protocols. This includes enhancing battery designs to reduce the risk of thermal runaway, improving cooling systems, and incorporating better fire-resistant materials. Additionally, Tesla is likely refining their emergency response procedures and collaborating with fire departments to ensure effective handling of battery fires. They also provide training and resources to first responders to help them manage EV-related incidents more safely and efficiently. As the technology and safety practices evolve, Tesla’s ongoing commitment to addressing these challenges aims to improve the overall safety of their vehicles and reduce the risks associated with battery fires.

[@gdutfulkbhh7537]

(No.)

[@pbsanstead]

Battery fires are addressed in the Tesla vehicle manuals.

[@steadholderharrington9035]

@@TeslaCarWorld The trucks should have onboard Liquid Nitrogen coolant tanks that can be sprayed onto the batteries in the event of a fire to douse it immediately and drastically cool-down the Lithium in the batteries at the same time! Its a proven technology.

[@rotaryenginepete]

EV fire stats are horribly skewed because they come from the USDOT who only counts ON-ROAD vehicle fires. Most EV fires occur OFF-ROAD, usually while charging at home or in a parking lot. Conveniently, none of those EV fires make it into the statistics, even though they take a garage, home, or entire parking garage full of vehicles with them.

[@SteveEddy-od7fb]

Hmmm woke Ken and Barbie US media!

[@hiltonwatkins6750]

WHO ignored the warnings….? I want to see the guilty party in front of a stadium full of taxpayers. Why are taxes going to this kind of mismanagement of safety…?

[@malcolmrickarby2313]

You are now a victim of the outrage industry 😢

[@adamiskandar5107]

@@malcolmrickarby2313 Yeah, should focus more on the Military Industrial Complex. Solving that problem would save the world and steer competing nations towards greater cooperation for the good.

[@devanois]

Here we have Another victim of the misinformation

[@hiltonwatkins6750]

Another black eye for Elon. So this is quite an impressive display of the safety of Tesla.

[@talulavidk]

This is a wake-up call for the entire EV industry.

[@user-iy7qr6ot2k]

Since the frequent fires that were experiences by both GM hybrids in the US, and the many many BYD hybrids (using an earlier battery chemistry) methods for dealing with battery fire is known but evidently not sufficiently well distributed nor trained for.

[@tedoptional-p8l]

They have known about batteries being a fire hazard for over 130 years now. Edison stopped experimenting with nickel-silver batteries because he couldn't figure out how to keep the cells from running away. Both Edison and his wife drove electric cars.

[@adamiskandar5107]

When you are a confirmed anti-war/anti-Military Industrial Complex crusader, I hear you.

[@dangchris11]

Could the Tesla Semi fire incident be a sign that battery technology still has a long way to go before it can safely replace traditional fuels?

[@AtomicHermit]

@@dangchris11 No! Modern battery powered vehicles are far less likely to be driven into trees or catch fire than other vehicles.

[@l2k55]

When Elon says he's shocked, he really means he expected it.

[@jonesyepa]

This video makes me question the safety of electric vehicles in general.

[@eddiea1213]

Did you see the 48 vehicles on fire at the Rivan factory in Normal, IL?

[@renehunt4252]

You idot

[@MJ-zo5gb]

Well, EV’s can catch fire when running into a tree, just like a gas car… but they tend to burn very slowly at first and this gives you plenty of time to get out of the car. Also, they are safer than gas cars more rigidly structured and less likely to flip as well, so you’re more likely to get out in the first place. If you’re in a major accident with a gas car and the gas tank is ruptured you’re instantly toast. Yes, it is easier to put out a gas car fire, but as a driver, I’m more concerned about not being injured, and not being instantly incinerated. I’m less concerned about how long the fire department Hass to stay around afterwards.🤔

[@bondgabebond4907]

@@MJ-zo5gb EVs are potential bombs. A person(s) in an EV are sitting right above potential bombs.

[@MJ-zo5gb]

@@bondgabebond4907 but they don’t explode. Gas tanks explode like bombs. EV batteries burn slowly and give you get time to get out of the car and then burn a long time. They are both energy sources, so they both dangerous can kill you depending on the crash.

[@CatherineDiEgidio-mq9gu]

I can remember the first cell phones had to be turned off when fueling up my car because of possible explosion/ fire. This problem has a solution!!!

[@tedoptional-p8l]

So you believe any story people make up? They used to say two-way radios caused dynamite to explode. Show me a single case.

[@snakepliskinsnake]

Junk it.

[@erastushuynh18]

This video makes me think twice about buying an electric vehicle.

[@tedoptional-p8l]

I did think twice, so I bought two. (No joke).

[@user-zx6lf5so4w]

🤣

[@tonymc-dx8xw]

They said on here EV is a fraction of the fires from cars each year. You only need one hand to count even if its just one. For ICE cars you need an abacus to count it.

[@steveo6034]

EV's will never go mainstream until thermal runaway is solved. "But ice vehicles catch on fire far more often", yes they do, but if caught in time, the fire can be extinguished, and the vehicle repaired. If an EV catches on fire, it's a guaranteed total loss.

[@tedoptional-p8l]

Partly true, but to late, EV's are mainstream.

[@malcolmrickarby2313]

They have mostly changed the battery chemistry and management already.👍🏽😊

[@Sunil-et1259]

Will Tesla release any updates on the investigation into the fire?

[@tedoptional-p8l]

Aks the driver what he was doing.

[@NarayansonawaneNarayan]

I'm worried about the possibility of similar incidents with other electric vehicles.

[@garethrobinson2275]

Bless.

[@tedoptional-p8l]

I worry about all the deaths caused by ICE cars, over two million per year in the world. This is worse than and causes cancer and mayhem. School children riding electric busses get 9% less breathing problems right now.

[@OpalDruscilla]

Fortunately hydrogen is the future and the byproduct it creates is water.​@@tedoptional-p8l

[@malcolmrickarby2313]

If you’re worried about that then you should have spent your whole life scared shirtless of ice vehicles 😱!!!

[@Arise4Fries90]

63,000 battery cells now we can fully calculate the energy density of the Tesla semi

[@Blockiee]

1:21 wow really? Only 100 semi's made so far? I really thought you could see the Tesla Semi in every street in the USA? I hope the driver is okay😥 , a crash with a Semi must be so brutal.

[@user-qm3ji1yl3q]

I'm a diesel mechanic I have thought a lot about the types of fires the batteries can cause or manifest have you ever had a cell phone battery explode on you think about it

[@greenmissouri]

It’s interesting to hear that Tesla is still refining the Semi’s design. I’m looking forward to seeing what changes they make in the Gen 2 model.

[@fideliaharris]

I agree with the article that this fire could shake public confidence in EVs, but it’s also an opportunity for Tesla to demonstrate their commitment to safety.

[@mnhsty]

There are battery chemistries that do not experience thermal runaway, eg LFP . Unfortunately they are Chinese and will be taxed out of the American market.

[@GntlTch]

No, they are not all Chinese. Half the EVs sold in the US today have LFP batteries.

[@MacDocSC]

They're also heavier and less energy dense, so it would hurt, though amount of freight it could haul

[@adamiskandar5107]

@@MacDocSC You can't go on bitching about EV fires and when solutions are in sight, you ignore? It's a matter of pros and cons, ok?

[@loktom4068]

The type of battery you are talking about were almost all made in China put on any brands of EV on the market @GntlTch

[@ernestgalvan9037]

“Electric vehicles catch fire just slightly less often than ICE vehicles” “Statistics show EV’s catch fire EIGHT TIMES less often than ICE vehicles” yepper, ‘eight times less’ is ‘slightly’

[@motocrossgurl18]

as a trucker ill stick to the fuel semis thanks very much I love the roar of the classic CAT C 15 engine and loud jakes I love my 2013 379 long nose Pete. The only state I cannot go to is California because it does not have DEF which I prefer the trucks that don't have that because damn they're good truck without that and sounds better too. I also love how my Pete rolls coal its the BEST im a diesel head.

[@terrellstewart4071]

As a person stuck in this traffic fiasco only thing I would suggest is that a company create a built in extinguisher to handle the problem and produce an item or fireproof blanket to cover the car, truck or ev item for purchase to the general public as we all have some ev item scooter, bike that maybe come an issue.

[@yahairawilliams19]

It’s clear that Tesla needs to address the safety concerns raised by this fire, but I believe they have the capability to do so.

[@SophroniaKevin]

Should the government impose stricter safety standards on EV manufacturers to prevent incidents like this in the future?

[@RISHUKHAN-b3l]

This incident highlights the need for improved safety measures in EVs, but it shouldn’t overshadow the environmental benefits they bring.

[@chip2373]

Fewer EV fires vs ICE fires, but EV fires are far more intense. 1% of Tesla Semis catching fire is extremely high.

[@Adelialuong]

The Tesla Semi has immense potential, but this incident underscores the importance of rigorous safety testing.

[@deegon01]

Stopping after the first fire, is a little ridiculous. Any truck fire is bad, many truck fires end in the loss of truck and load. Fire/failure in the brake system accounts for alot. EVs should make this more safe.

[@thomastynan2900]

Add send a bill to Mush for the resources used by the State to extinguish that fire.

[@somyaranjanmohapatra3735]

Hopefully, this leads to stricter safety regulations for EV batteries.

[@TeslaCarWorld]

Hopefully, this incident will lead to stricter safety regulations for EV batteries. Enhanced safety standards could help prevent similar issues in the future and ensure that new technologies are thoroughly tested and refined to protect both users and the environment

[@tedoptional-p8l]

@@TeslaCarWorld There are no real safety standards for batteries yet.

[@malcolmrickarby2313]

@@tedoptional-p8lof course there are. Make up your own FUD or on a pay per comment? 😱

[@fideliahuynh05]

First responders need better training for handling EV fires.

[@tedoptional-p8l]

First responders need all the training they can get; I was a fireman.

[@leonardogeerman344]

@@tedoptional-p8lwhy don’t the use foam?

[@TempleScoop]

@@leonardogeerman344same affect.

[@a9ball1]

For one, since there's only 100 on the road it would mean the odds of the Tesla semi catching fire is 1 out of 100. If you put those odds in the number of cars on the road then we need to run. Question, would you rather have higher odds of being knifed or lower odds of blowing up in an explosion?

[@richbl1690]

I'm hoping that Tesla will come up with a self-contained fire suppression system that will not only put out the fire but prevent the loss of precious battery material. It would eliminate this from happening again. I own a Tesla, so no it didn't diminish my thoughts in tesla.

[@abdurrahaman-ux8xq]

It’s a wake-up call for the entire EV industry-bigger batteries mean bigger risks, and we need better solutions.

[@mayra87y9]

The Tesla Semi fire is concerning, but let’s not forget that innovation is often a process of trial and error.

[@camilov0nt49]

While the fire is a setback, I don’t think it diminishes the overall promise of the Tesla Semi in revolutionizing transportation.

[@CoolmanCraft]

With current training, we’re just told to let it burn and protect this surroundings.

[@phamrohit]

Hopefully, this incident wont discourage people from buying electric vehicles.

[@tedoptional-p8l]

Why would it? Gasoline fires didn't stop people from buying ICE cars. Get a horse! (Old saying when seeing an ICE car on the road).

[@bsuthe]

While it is admitted that EV battery fires are considerably more difficult to put out, it also claimed that they are far less common than gasoline or diesel fires. Intuitively and instinctively, I do not believe this.

[@jimgraham9450]

An EV semi doesn't make any sense. It can only go 500 miles if there are no hills. If there are hills, the distance is reduced a lot. In cold weather it is a big problem. It takes way too long to charge. Any normal semi can go at least 1,500 miles on a fill up and it only takes a few minutes to refuel. The tractor itself is too heavy because of the battery. Although, in this case, the fire resulted from running into a tree, they can explode and burn without anything happening. Look at all of the batter busses that have exploded and burned to the ground. If they tried to haul a load of produce across the country with a Tesla, the entire load would be rotten by the time it got there. And, is it energy efficient? Absolutely not. Is it good for the environment? Looking at the entire picture it is very bad for the environment.

[@tedoptional-p8l]

You are listening to the wrong people like VW or Mercedes-Benz. Read what knowledgeable people have to say and leave the FUD alone.

[@snakepliskinsnake]

500 miles under perfect circumstances.

[@pbsanstead]

Hills? When you go down the hill, you gain all that lost battery back. Ask Sacramento PepsiCo - they run over Donner Pass into Nevada and back - they’re fine.

[@pbsanstead]

Battery Semi gets 82k lbs not 80k. It’s fine. The produce would be rotten going across county? What? Lol. Would it be pulling a trailer with no A/C? That’s a silly comment, but not the point. Teslas Semi does not go cross country. Why? Because there is no network of the special Megacharger needed to charge it.

[@jimgraham9450]

@@tedoptional-p8l I am sorry but I am retired but drove tractor trailer, had my own truck, and still have my CDL. So I do know about diesel powered trucks. I have also talked with a driver that drove a Tesla truck daily. He had a short run and so he could use the Tesla. But he said that any hill drained the battery. Also, any Li battery is a fire hazard, even a tiny wafer battery. The bigger the battery the greater the probability that it will catch on fire. One of the drivers in the company I worked for went to sleep in his own diesel truck. He ran off the road into the woods. It took the entire running gear out but no fire. I have a drone with 3 Li batteries. After only 3 years they swelled and were no longer usable and became dangerous. The same thing happened to my camera batteries. I have an Li battery in my Harley. When the temperature goes below 40 degrees, it will not start the engine and the battery was expensive. I have HAZMAT and if I have 1000 pounds of any battery in the box, I have to placard the trailer. That Li battery in the Tesla weighs several thousands of pounds. Even a single battery for a Tesla car, if it is in my trailer, I have to placard the trailer because it is dangerous. All of my information is first hand other than the information I received from the Tesla driver. Also lithium is explosive when exposed to water.

[@AaronCampbell-to1ip]

I believe the Tesla Semi represents a significant leap forward in transportation. However, this incident shows we still have much to learn about the safety of these vehicles.

[@billyrio3767]

Why didn't the Tesla software prevent the Semi from going any further off-road than the apron/shoulder, driver conscious/asleep or not? This has nothing to do with FSD. The driver should be made to pay hundreds of thousands in any case.

[@OH-sv9hk]

Turning on FSD (Beta or Supervised) adds greatly to safety and layers of crash prevention. Even if a driver is incapacitated for any reason it would have been great to have an automatic system react to imitate collision by applying maximum braking, and also turning some small amount to avoid direct impact with solid object. This could have resulted in deceleration spread over a greater, but still short distance. This would reduce striking force and the ability to break open the battery pack. A small swerve that laid the truck on its side rather than Center punching the tree could have provide the deceleration to prevent breaking open in the pack, and most probably the driver would still be saved. It’s not uncommon to see semis at circular interstate on-ramps laid over on their side without death. It appears that if a human or automatic driving system had been functional, the accident would have been far less likely to have the striking force to bust open the battery. That said fire fighting of lithium battery fires must be improved as well as safer batteries - like the promise of solid-state batteries. I’m no expert on lithium battery fire fighting, but I believe using sand to smother the battery is effective to some extent? Wild ass guess but better than just sand - how about some sand like smothering substance that also has some kind of chemical reaction to help stop the rapid oxidation of fire reactions?? Using water seems like bring a knife to a gun fight? The overwhelming lower cost economics of EVs make this a race between development of inherently safer batteries and wide deployment of better battery Fire Fighting equipment. The advantages of EVs are not going away. If we don’t lead the way forward Europe and Asia will.

[@jessicasnaplesfl7474]

Next step, due to difficulties establishing infrastructure to support numerous high capacity EV charging stations, is to develop efficient, light weight NUCLEAR-POWERED vehicles, capable of NON-STOP, CROSS-COUNTRY RUNS!

[@wayneott5990]

Ev's as they stand are not fit for purpose. I am not a conservative. That said the environmental impact of mining for the materials to make them is far more harmful then the typical ICE vehicle. Why EV's fire frequency is low the damage resulting from an EV fire is high. One EV catching fire in a car park or home is usually a full blown extreme loss. EV's burn much hotter, they can melt concrete and steel, they produce their own oxygen and are self supporting fires.

[@motocrossgurl18]

TRUTH

[@josephstevener7499]

So you never went into the chemicals that were washed from the fire / batteries into the soil and our waterways

[@tedoptional-p8l]

This is not likely a problem (yet).

[@josephstevener7499]

@@tedoptional-p8l i’m sorry I must be stupid.

[@malcolmrickarby2313]

I was disappointed that while saying toxic toxic toxic there were no details or explanations. If you look at the components of the batteries, it’s only the very small amount of Cobalt that my be a hazard. The whole presentation of this story is way too over the top to regard as anything more than sensationalist click bait.😊

[@josephstevener7499]

@@malcolmrickarby2313 was there a fire? I thought it said there was a fire.

[@lakeishaqpv3]

The footage of the fire is truly disturbing.

[@yesno9592]

@lakeishaqpv3 Yea. The most disturbing part about the images are the lack of the tree that the semi-trailer truck supposedly hit. Looks like the thing overheated and cought on fire due to either running over some road debris or due to bad thermal management and the ai narrator is just telling bold face lies to cover it up. Bad vibes...

[@malcolmrickarby2313]

You are very easily disturbed! A forest fire killing trees and animals, people and their homes ,families and pets is truly disturbing and has become a threat to many millions of people worldwide because of failure to act on the warnings of the scientific community.🤔

[@postersm7141]

9:37 why are we not talking about the elephant in the room. The biggest safety concern is all of the chemicals that go into the air have to land somewhere. They’re gonna land wherever the wind blows on your skin and in your waters. Trust me as a fire fighter you don’t want these chemicals anywhere outside of the battery pack. It’s bad news every time one of these catch on fire.

[@AdamIverson]

How come nobody ever thinks to put over a fire blanket? It's proven to be effective on any cars including EVs.

[@slavric]

My personal experience with Lithium NMC batteries is, that they are very safe even when physically abused badly. Here I'm talking about prismatic type of cells. Smaller cylindrical cells have much smaller insulation gaps and are shorted quickly when damaged while big prismatic cells have more space for insulation of the spool and the connections themselves. Prismatic cells also don't have the aluminium housing connected to any potential while in cylindrical cells their housing is also a negative terminal. The only way I could start the thermal runaway of a prismatic NMC cell was with penetration. This makes a short circuit thru many layers of the spool directly and when this happens there is no way back. Pouch cells are good as well, but they require external mechanical encapsulation because bare cells are practically unprotected.

[@smart_sonu_0049]

The fire footage is a stark reminder of the power of EV batteries.

[@TeslaCarWorld]

Absolutely, the fire footage indeed highlights the immense power and potential dangers of EV batteries. While electric vehicles like the Tesla Semi offer remarkable advancements in technology and sustainability, their large battery packs can pose significant risks, especially in severe accidents. It’s crucial to recognize both the benefits and the challenges of this technology. Ensuring that safety measures and emergency response protocols are continually improved will be key in addressing these risks and enhancing the overall safety of electric vehicles.

[@tedoptional-p8l]

Yes, they currently have just one-half the power of a tank of gas or diesel. Just wait until they have the power of a full tank of gas!

[@GulshanKumar-ph6rm]

I agree that the Tesla Semi’s battery size poses a unique challenge, but this incident might push Tesla to innovate even further in safety.

[@howebrad4601]

When you factor in that most evs are not very old, whereas most ice fires occur in older vehicles that changes the level of concern. Since there are only 100 tesla semis on the road, yet 1 burned, that's a 1 percent fire rate, way way way higher than diesel truck fires.

[@superdave2316]

I wouldn't live in an apartment or condo complex that allows charging in underground parking garages. After a flood event in Florida the Fire Chief made the public statement that said you shouldn't park an EV within 50 feet of anything you want to keep.

[@altgenesis]

Only 100 Tesla Semi's then how can you say fires are a lower rate than ICE vehicke. 1 in 100 is 1%. That's an extremely high rate.

[@ROGERMATHER]

Stuck in traffic with sulfuric and hydrochloric acid fumes washing over myself and two children seems dangerous and unpleasant. It hasn't happened yet but it will.

[@sushukrish]

Is it only me or is everyone else also seeing that the burning truck he's showing is a freightliner?

[@garycarter5641]

I think Elon/Tesla intend to replace the smaller battery with the 4680 that has a different chemical make up so it won’t catch fire.

[@daveightruong]

This incident might push lawmakers to impose stricter regulations on EVs, which could ultimately benefit the industry.

[@Aaronballer2122-jm9tj]

How can Tesla ensure that the next generation of Semi Trucks will be safer and less prone to such catastrophic fires?

[@delizceline]

How will Tesla address the environmental concerns raised by the toxic gas released during the fire?

[@RakeshRakeshkisku]

The fire is troubling, but it seems unfair to judge the entire Tesla Semi project based on one incident.

[@lithanyjqxo]

The potential risks of large battery packs are becoming more evident. Tesla must find a way to mitigate these dangers.

[@shadar1c4]

I’m impressed by the idea of the 4680 Gen 3 battery making the Tesla Semi cheaper and more powerful. This could set a new standard for electric trucks.

[@malcolmrickarby2313]

I believe that they will also be much safer with the new cobalt free batteries.😊

[@merridydinh]

I worry that incidents like this could slow down the adoption of electric trucks, which would be a setback for the environment.

[@TheMISTERAMD]

In respons to this video, you can penetrate the battery of a BYD electric car and it will not catch on fire because it's uses a whole different technology. Second, I'm sure Tesla did some crash tests but not against a tree at high speed. The chassis of the Tesla Truck might have been tear open a battery part which caught on fire? So... Why not make the front of the Tesla Truck stronger? Build a system around the Tesla cars that, when the battery catch on fire due crash or whatever, it alerts the driver while a bed of sand around the batteries is opened, delaying the fire. Or just figure out a team up between Tesla & BYD and other EV manufactures how they build their batteries to prevent fire in the future.

[@user-mt9mu5xf4s]

No one checking EMF radiation ? Are long haul truckers supposed to sleep in those rigs ?

[@stewartread4235]

Renewables were named correctly, every 5-15 years they'll need renewing. They will make single use plastics look environmentally friendly.!

[@daoangel65]

I’m intrigued by the potential of Tesla’s 4680 batteries, but I think their real innovation will be in how they balance performance and cost in the Semi.

[@tonymc-dx8xw]

These trucks should have mandatory FSD so if the driver falls asleep it wont crash and have a alarm that gets louder if he does sleep to wake him.

[@노구-j5r]

This incident underscores the need for better training for first responders when dealing with EV fires.

[@user-kh3yr4tf8f]

With the level of experts that Tesla has and the ability of the computer in the semi. They should stop the trucks from letting humans make stupid mistakes , or going to sleep and crashing. The computer should be able to tell that something is not normal and take over control of the vehicle. If there is no response from the driver the truck can come to a safe place to stop on its own. 😊if I were asleep,I would rather wake up stopped on the side of the road, than wake up in the hospital !

[@ShivamKumar-sn8vn]

This video really highlights the complexity of electric vehicle technology.

[@tedoptional-p8l]

Electric vehicles have been around for 130 years, they are much simpler than ICE cars.

[@LayneYancey]

How does Tesla plan to address potential cybersecurity concerns related to FSD technology in the Semi?

[@gentlesoul68]

I hope that Mr. Musk and his team resolve this unfortunate happening, I like his company and vehicles very much because they don't look like everybody else's vehicles. As a truck driver that does OTR, I guessing the accident was caused by fatigue. It's not easy being an OTR Driver, having to deal with pressures of making delivery on time and also having to deal with inconsiderate and idiotic drivers. C'mon Mr. Musk, take this negativity and turn it into positivity and continue to show the world what you and your company are made of. Cheers 🇯🇲🇯🇲

[@somyaranjanmohapatra3735]

How can Tesla better educate the public and its customers about the potential risks associated with electric trucks?

[@b.p.stimemachines2327]

500 miles is nothing but a damn nuisance to a semi truck driver who’s limited by hours of the day that they can operate 500 miles diesel tanks you can get about 1000 miles out of your truck which means you stop a lot less and you don’t spend 45 minutes fueling up for another 500 miles

[@user-rg5ee7ci6i]

Load of bull, an ICE truck would have caused the same amount of highway disruption, this report must have been paid for by Big Oil☹️

[@jimgraham9450]

The truck was off the road. If it were a diesel truck, there would have been very little disruption. Also, a diesel truck hitting a tree, normally would not cause any fire.

[@tedoptional-p8l]

@@jimgraham9450 A EV hitting a tree normally wouldn't cause a fire either.

[@jimgraham9450]

@@tedoptional-p8l Even a Tesla car running over something that only bumps the underside of the car requires the battery to be replaced because it may ignite at any time.

[@johngookinsable]

So all the safety equipment blocking the lanes of traffic is whats really to blame not the electric truck! The said the same thing about diesel trucks when they were developed. Get a grip people, the truck didnt just spontainiously explode! the driver wrecked it ! come on man!

[@kuro0021]

Not to mention, lots of resources and man power actually costs a lot of money, these are tax payers money, so some sort of solution have to be enforced which will ensure that electric batteries never cach fire.

[@Sofadage]

what a stupid thing to say. fires are more common. compare them to gas cars of same age and adjusted for % of cars